Digital Social Hour - TikTok Shop Secrets: The Best Side Hustle of 2025 | Bek Lover & Sonny Faz DSH #1406

Episode Date: June 16, 2025

Unlock the secrets of TikTok Shop and discover why it’s the ultimate side hustle for 2025! 💼✨ In this episode of the Digital Social Hour, Sean Kelly dives into game-changing insights on how Tik...Tok Shop is reshaping e-commerce and creating massive opportunities for creators and entrepreneurs. From viral product trends to insider tips on maximizing your earnings, this podcast is packed with valuable insights you can’t afford to miss. 🚀 Join the conversation as we explore how TikTok is becoming the new home shopping network, why it’s perfect for creators, and how you can get started today. Whether you’re looking for side hustle inspiration or tips to take your content creation to the next level, this episode has you covered. 🙌 🎧 Watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 📺 Don’t miss out on the future of hustle—hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more eye-opening stories. Let’s go! 🔥 CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 01:15 - Chaos at the Airports 08:15 - How Bek and Sonny Met 10:25 - What Islam Teaches 15:18 - S0nny’s Experience in Mecca 17:49 - The Mahdi 19:55 - The Unseen World 25:26 - Debates are Harmful 32:16 - XRP 34:33 - War in India and Pakistan 43:45 - What Happens After We Die 46:13 - Halal and Haram Money Explained 52:15 - Why Muslims Pray in Arabic 57:13 - Oral Transmission of the Quran 58:34 - Peaceful Coexistence in Jerusalem 59:44 - No Compulsion in Religion 01:03:42 - Is This Life a Test? 01:04:20 - TikTok Shop Overview 01:06:20 - The Power of TikTok Shop 01:07:18 - Standardizing Ingredients APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: jenna@digitalsocialhour.com GUEST: Bek Lover & Sonny Fa https://www.instagram.com/beklovernyc https://www.instagram.com/sonnyfaz/ SPONSORS: THERASAGE: https://therasage.com/ AMNISIA: https://buyamnisia.com/ LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ The views and opinions expressed by guests on Digital Social Hour are solely those of the individuals appearing on the podcast and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the host, Sean Kelly, or the Digital Social Hour team. While we encourage open and honest conversations, Sean Kelly is not legally responsible for any statements, claims, or opinions made by guests during the show. Listeners are encouraged to form their own opinions and consult professionals for advice where appropriate. Content on this podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only and should not be considered legal, medical, financial, or professional advice. Digital Social Hour works with participants in sponsored media and stays compliant with Federal Communications Commission (FCC) regulations regarding sponsored media. #ad #tiktokshopaffiliate #influencermarketing #digitalmarketing #tiktokmonetization #socialmediamarketing

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Starting point is 00:00:00 allowed to talk about or boycott I might even get into who's right or wrong should be a red flag for every American on the face of the planet I don't care if it's my own people's country of Albania and they said you're not allowed to boycott Albania you're not allowed to that's dangerous to American democracy that is an infringement on the First Amendment that is a no-fly zone for every American I don't care even if you agree that they should I don't care even if you read that they should All right guys got Beck lover and sunny faz here in las vegas you guys have had quite a week thanks for joining us today
Starting point is 00:00:34 sunny Uh and me on vegas sunny's never been to vegas I just saw you in miami. I was at your event. Thanks for inviting me I was at the sls that nice party you did at the hide Beautiful place brother a lot of nice people there a lot of people in the space Formula one week was definitely crazy down there, and I think this is what our fourth pot together Yeah, we've been kind of doing we're kind of been doing our thing together. Well you crush it when you come on Between the hatred of the Christians and then oh no, I'm just gonna like they attack me. Oh, yeah Yeah, well controversy always and then, no, I'm just kidding. No, meaning like they attack me. Oh yeah, yeah. The comments.
Starting point is 00:01:05 Well, controversy always seems to, I guess the algorithm likes it because I think it's something to do with comments. But in any event, we were supposed to knock a pot out there. Here we are in Vegas. We just rescheduled. I never made it home, bro. Sunday night, my flight was to leave from Fort Lauderdale.
Starting point is 00:01:20 They told me it was delayed to 7.30 with all the chaos that's been happening in Newark airport, which is one of the busiest airports in our nation. It's a main hub, right? International hub and everything. You know, to see the condition of our country, to have these types of delays and issues and problems and not enough, you know, there was minutes where it was literally they didn't know where the planes were. Literally risking our lives to be on your show, Sean Kelly. Crazy. I'm honored. And we got lucky Wednesday though, but I ended up having to rent a car from Fort Lauderdale
Starting point is 00:01:48 because they told me the flight would leave at 7 30 and left at 4 30 without us. Imagine they send you a notification saying you don't have to be here till 7 30 and then they just pull the rug back. I mean, like they say there's a passenger bill of rights. I really don't feel like we have any rights. Like for you to notify your passenger that they don't have to be there till 730 and then just pull the rug on them, it's just unacceptable. Missed the day of work, had to rent a car, drive to Tampa, fly out of Tampa to LaGuardia.
Starting point is 00:02:17 I mean it was just chaos after F1, brother. And it's still going on. And why am I talking about this? Because look at the condition of our country. To see this type of infrastructure. Sonny, you just went overseas. You were in Europe. You've seen some of the airports out there. It's embarrassing, man.
Starting point is 00:02:32 When people say we're a superpower, like what? Just with weapons, maybe. But as far as infrastructure, our country, we are so behind, Sean. It's really breaking my heart. It's really sad how far we've come. Yet billions of dollars for destruction all over the earth and nothing for construction here in the country of the United States of America.
Starting point is 00:02:50 And I'm really not seeing a difference between any of them, left or right. I've said this many times. Sonny Files is in the house. It makes you wonder if, because there's a lot of cyber war, people are talking about that and it makes you wonder if the US is prepared for that, you know, cyber attack. I don't think so, but God forbid this infrastructure goes down. When you were growing up, when you flew, it was a whole different experience, huh?
Starting point is 00:03:10 I remember the time where, you know, and again, I was a kid, but I remember cigarettes, people, literally, I mean, I thought that was a little crazy. On the plane? You could smoke on the flight. I would hate that. Up until like the late 80s. I would hate that.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Yeah, now that I'm, you know, even as a smoker, who the hell wants to be in a tube flying through the sky with plumes of smoke. But what I liked about that time period is you could just tell like it was just on another level. Like basically coach back then is like premium today. Like it would have been like just normal. You had legroom.
Starting point is 00:03:38 It was crazy. The seats were cushier. So things have become, you know, everything is- Now you need a passport to fly, right? ID's not good enough. You need real ID in the US. Now they're talking about having standing seats. I don't know if you guys saw this, but there's going to be people standing
Starting point is 00:03:51 on flights in the future. For cheaper, you can just stand like cattle. Isn't that crazy? We're just like sardines, yeah. That's what they want though. Isn't that what they want, Sonny? They want us numbered. They want crypto.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Real ID ain't about safety. They're going to get rid of the pretzels. You're going to get bugs. You're going to have to pay for it. If they bugs, they got rid of this guy, right? Klaus Schwab. But the guy that replaced him looks like the demon. He looks like the antichrist in Islam.
Starting point is 00:04:12 He literally has one eye. He took over, was it the owner of Nestle or something? He took over the world economic, well, WEF. They tried recruiting me, did I tell you this? I said that on my episode. Yeah, scary stuff. Yeah, don't be scared of anyone but God, Sean Kelly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Listen, no matter what, your demise will come one day. No matter what you do in life, whether you're the healthiest runner, oh, look at me, I run it every day. You eat healthy, they drop dead every day too. Our time is numbered on this earth. So at the end of the day, staying true to your principles, what you stand for, what you believe in.
Starting point is 00:04:43 If you're someone that's spiritual, I mean, I've never asked you these questions, Sean Sean, but I mean do you believe in a higher power? I do. So to me is if you believe in a higher power, you believe there's something else that comes after this, staying true to that is more important than any riches on this earth because we can't bring nothing with it. And brother, we're all like I'm getting the out of the end of my The Tri-Light from Therisage is no joke. Medical grade red and near infrared light with 3 frequencies per light, deep healing, real results and totally portable. It's legit. Photo-bio modulation tech in a flexible on-body panel. This is the Tri-Lite from Therisage and it's next
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Starting point is 00:07:10 it'll never be more fun and exciting than my 20s and my 30s. I don't understand these billionaires, Sonny. They have billions of dollars and they spend their time destroying the earth, destroying people, starting wars. Like, these are sick people. And, you know, people say, oh, you're looking forward to, like, you know, if you make it to the, you know, people say, oh you're looking forward to like, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:26 if you make it to the next life, if you make it to paradise, you make it to heaven. Honestly, besides that, I look forward to one thing, seeing people get what they deserve when they stand in front of that creator one day. All these billionaires who created corruption on the earth. To me, as scared as it'll be that day, because I believe in a judgment day, I believe there's a day where every human being on Earth will answer for what they've done on this planet. I look forward to seeing the people
Starting point is 00:07:49 that took my family's lives. I look forward to the people that made those buildings fall in Manhattan that I was underneath that day on September, you know what. And that's probably the only thing I'm looking forward to as far as the afterlife, because I think the transition period, judgment days they call it, is to be a very scary terrifying process and a very rude awakening for many who doubted that there was a creator.
Starting point is 00:08:12 How did you two meet? Social media. Yeah. God, please I don't want to. No, you're good. Beck shot me a DM. I think he said someone, someone messaged you. One of my followers was like, you really need to connect with this gentleman, right? And this is, I believe spiritually was designed by God. Would you not agree?
Starting point is 00:08:31 Yeah, and then we got on FaceTime and he wouldn't stop talking. For 30 minutes I tried to get- I sound like him. Yeah, I got on Instagram, then we started talking. I was like, this guy's insane. He moved one mile away from me. Don't say where we live, because we'll both get whacked.
Starting point is 00:08:42 He's like one mile away from me. Like it couldn't be more more like it's just insane. You know when you can't get someone off the phone, it's like times a thousand with Beck. Yeah. I met him after he transitioned into the faith of Islam. I'm viral. I'm viral. Reverted. I'm not really as tech savvy, Sean.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Honestly, I wish I had the kind of infrastructure behind me like you do. I've broken the internet a million times. I never did what I did for money or fame. I never knew I'd be speaking about faith. I never went in it to speak about faith. I was just tired of hearing a lot of ignorance, which fuels hatred, which creates division. The number one thing we're fighting in the world
Starting point is 00:09:16 is ignorance. That's really what this battle's about. And that's not just from a faith perspective. That's just like everything. Poverty, you gotta battle ignorance to get out of poverty. There's generational ignorance that keeps generations behind because the father and the mother haven't taught the child how to elevate, you know. So ignorance is truly the enemy.
Starting point is 00:09:37 That's why in Islam, I believe the first word of the Quran that God commanded was to read. He said Ikra in Arabic, read. The Prophet Muhammad couldn't read. Read. I can't read. Read in the name of your God who created you from a cloud of blood in the womb of your mother. Read for God taught humanity that which it did not know. I truly do believe that humanity was guided throughout time, throughout time. Brought to you by Amnesia Vodka. Crafted to leave an impression. Space by the Creator. He didn'todka, crafted to leave an impression. of what was taught was omitted and changed. It's not that we don't recognize those books, but we believe that there's been a lot of additional things that really didn't come down with the original teachings.
Starting point is 00:10:30 That's basically Islam in essence. Sunni fasting. Are you familiar with Islam at all? Very, like, basically, very basically. Just through the guests I've had on the show, but I haven't read the Quran, I haven't done, like, advanced research. Yeah, the basic principle is that
Starting point is 00:10:43 you worship nothing but the creator. So like that God that you pray to as a kid that you can't really imagine, but is above time, created the son, that's the only thing you pray to. And so we believe that since Adam, the first human being, God has sent prophets throughout all of time. So there's a common misconception where people think Islam was created 1400 years ago,
Starting point is 00:11:02 and that's not what we believe at all. If you don't believe in Jesus as a Muslim, you go to hell. Like you're not a Muslim. Like from Adam, he was given a book. Moses was given a book. Noah was given a book. Jesus was given the Gospels, but they were tampered by humans. So they were given the perfect words of God and then humans ended up tampering it.
Starting point is 00:11:20 And that's why we follow the prophet Muhammad with the Quran because since it was revealed 1400 years ago, it hasn't changed. Wow. Because it can be memorized. Yeah, so the Quran... So like look, we're both white boys, right? So we get a lot of backlash. I get a lot of hate mail and message.
Starting point is 00:11:35 You're a traitor. You're this, you're that. You're an Arab lover. There's so much hatred and Islamophobia and animosity towards Middle Easterners that we find ourselves, me and Sonny. Sonny's a revert only eight months, seven months? About a year now. He became a Muslim a year ago. I did not know him at that time. And within the one year, like inseparable, and we're even starting to vlog together, we're starting to do all
Starting point is 00:11:58 kinds of stuff because we're kind of feeling the same type of backlash from people and it's purely out of ignorance. It's purely out of hatred One out of five people in the Muslim in the world some as a Muslim Sean one out of five people if we were all the way They showed Muslims in movies believe me that we'd have really big problems Yeah, I know if the Quran actually taught like terrorism and to kill people the world would be kaboom like this It's just it's just it's just sad man like What we're trying to do what I've been trying to do is build bridges. Sometimes it takes, even from our episodes,
Starting point is 00:12:27 I'll take a little piece and they'll make it look like I'm anti-Christian or I'm not. I've said very clearly, my faith teaches me the same thing. I don't care what you believe. Even God says in the Quran, you choose your path, we choose our path. Like, and you know, we'll find out. You know, my greatest quote, I think I said it on your show
Starting point is 00:12:47 and went viral, was Christians and Muslims have so much in common. Yeah, we don't practice the same. Son, he's formerly a Christian, okay? His family's still Christian. He still respects his family. He still loves his family. You know, they might not understand.
Starting point is 00:13:03 They might find like, why is my son like, you know, and to them it seems foreign. Why are you following the religion of, I'm not saying that's what they're saying. I'm just using them as an example. Just anyone that reverts to Islam. You know, why are you following this faith of Arabs? You know, you're Italian.
Starting point is 00:13:14 You should be like, you know, just, these are general things that happen when people change their faith. And that's regardless of any faith, whether they're a Hindu and they become a Muslim or a Muslim becomes a Hindu, you're going to have backlash because most people follow religion, Sean, like they follow a tradition.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Most people watching this video, I promise you don't even know why you celebrate the holidays you do or the origins of those holidays. You follow those faiths because you're family. I was born Catholic, so I'm Catholic. I was born Muslim, so I'm Muslim. I tell the Muslim, you should challenge your faith too. Everyone should look at what they believe in because we all believe the same thing, Sean.
Starting point is 00:13:50 People that believe in religions, right? Since the beginning of time, they said, if you don't believe what we believe, there's a price to pay. You don't accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. You bear minimum if you're lucky, you go to purgatory. Otherwise you're going to hell, right? So as a Muslim, I understand that risk.
Starting point is 00:14:06 I don't leave my soul like a roulette wheel, you know, up to chance. I analyzed everything I saw in life, and I felt that this was the only thing that made honest to God sense, was the most inclusive as far as humanity, not one people's chosen over another. God sent prophets and messengers throughout time
Starting point is 00:14:23 to all people around the earth. There was hundreds and thousands of messengers. We don't know all of their names. Buddha may have been one of them. We don't know. We'll never go as far as to say that, but we know that the divine message is in all faiths. Why? Because they were given the message. Humanity altered those messages. Humanity changed those books. That's what Islam means. So what Sunny was trying to say earlier is Islam means submission, submission to the creator, the one that has always been the only one, the eternally absolute that guided his creation.
Starting point is 00:14:52 And we don't say he, cause he's a man. And I've shown you and he knows the word Allah is a universal word for God in the Abrahamic. I hope you guys are enjoying the show. Please don't forget to like and subscribe. It helps the show a lot with the algorithm. Thank you Fates every Christians say Allah it just means God. It's not like this. It's not a name different thing I like Jehovah or this or that you know yeah, so sunny has
Starting point is 00:15:15 Been through a lot in the last year. I've been a Muslim most of my life. I've never been to Saudi Arabia He literally just came back. He was on tour with Sneak-o and not tour he went to perform religious ritual that I can't been to Saudi Arabia. He literally just came back. He was on tour with Sneeko, and not tour, he went to perform a religious ritual that I can't wait to do. And you should tell him a little bit about what that was like. And he was with a lot of big influencers
Starting point is 00:15:33 who they all went together as a big group, like the Hockey Way guy and the Warner and Sneeko. And what was that like? Yeah, I was Saudi. I might go there next year, actually. Have you ever been to Saudi? No, I got invited to a LEAP conference to speak. So I might go next year. It was definitely really cool.
Starting point is 00:15:47 It was a bit of a culture shock seeing that. It's so different. But the coolest part about it was definitely that there's people from all over the globe in one spot. So you have brown people, white people, black people, Asian people, and they're all living in complete peace together. And Mecca, so do you want to explain
Starting point is 00:16:04 why Mecca is like so important? Go ahead. I heard of Mecca. Yeah, so basically it's like the center of the universe. So I don't want to butcher it. Basically from the Muslim perspective, we believe that's where Abraham left his wife. It was literally just desert.
Starting point is 00:16:19 There was nothing there. God commanded him to take his wife and child and just left them there. And then Abraham, as he left, made a prayer to God saying, Oh God, give them sanctuary, make it a place of peace and serenity. And as the Muslim perspective, history says, springs gushed from the earth called Zamzam, it's the name of the spring, it's still to this day.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Zamzam means stop, stop in Arabic. And because they had water there, it became a civilization. So basically, it's one of the pillars of Islam to go do pilgrimage here at one point in your life. So like I was saying, the coolest part is how miles around Mecca, the Kaaba, like the mosque. It was, we believe, the site where Abraham constructed the temple to worship the one God.
Starting point is 00:17:01 So when Muslims go to Mecca, peace and blessings upon all the prophets and messengers. They don't go there for the prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him. They go there to follow the footsteps of Abraham. He didn't come to bring a new faith. He came to cleanse and purify what was added to the faith of Abraham. Idolatry, pictures, praying to saints and people, praying to anyone except God. God gave us 10 commandments in the Old Testament.
Starting point is 00:17:29 God doesn't change one logic over another. God doesn't play with our memory. Why would He give us 10 commandments? Only to pull the rug out from under our feet. Worse than any NFT project out there, right? Seriously, seriously. So, to me, I always tell people, if it contradicts the Ten Commandments, you know it's not from the God of Abraham. Muslims are very strict when it comes to images. Praying to anything except God. Okay? Now you have some character on the world horizons calling himself to be the Muslim Savior. He's the Mahdi. He was a documentary maker called Hisham as himself.
Starting point is 00:18:03 He's a peer from the United Kingdom with a bunch of white women uncovered. He's calling himself to be the successor of Jesus Christ and the successor of Muhammad peace and blessings be upon them. This is actually a point where Muslims and Christians can unite and say this guy's out of his mind. This guy's out. Yeah I agree like hey just on behalf of the Muslims we don't accept this guy as the Savior. He just came onto the world stage right now. Everyone's talking about this guy. Yeah, I never know what to believe. But he went there to follow the footsteps of Abraham.
Starting point is 00:18:31 That's what the rituals are. They're to follow the footsteps of the prophet Abraham, which is the father of... And we believe all the prophets throughout time came with the same message. Heaven and hell, you're accountable. There's only one God. Worship no one else. Don't take what's not yours. Don't make false oaths. Don't commit murder.
Starting point is 00:18:48 These are very important principles that literally, God, think about it, 10 rules, man. The 10 commandments reign supreme. Don't worship anything but me. Don't take what's not yours. Don't kill anybody. Don't commit adultery. How hard is this?
Starting point is 00:19:03 So do you agree with like the fundamental that there's one creator? Yeah. Like if you keep going up the pyramid of stuff that happened or like the first movement, for example, there couldn't have been two gods. You get what I'm saying? Yeah, what it makes sense logically, I guess.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Like there has to be one creator at the top of the pyramid. Like you could always say, but what created this? What created this? What created this? And keep going back. Eventually there has to be something that's outside of this simulation. That's outside of time. You know, that created the whole, I like to call it the simulation.
Starting point is 00:19:32 The Arabic word is the dunya, but it really is like a simulation that God created. You don't find a lot of things to be like just so coincidental. Have you experienced these phenomenons in your life? Let me finish my point. Do you agree with that? That there's like one ultimate career? Yeah, I agree with that. So we believe in the unseen world too.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Like there's spirits and angels. We believe that angels don't have free will. So they're essentially like code in the simulation. Like if God tells them to do something, they have to do it. They kind of have it, but they don't seem to have the ability to disobey God. Yeah, they can't disobey God. That's why I like to say they're more like code. And then we believe in something called jinn,
Starting point is 00:20:05 which are spirits. Demonic realm. So they have free will. So they're commanded by God to not intercept with this world, with us humans. So the only time there's interception with the demonic realm is when it's spirits, jinn, that are not following God.
Starting point is 00:20:22 And human beings who are not following God, who perform rituals, black magic. Exactly, so like we're not supposed to interact with God. So like a lot of human beings who are not following God who perform rituals black magic Exactly. So like we're not supposed to interact with God. They take certain types of psychedelics I spoke about this on your show before ayahuasca very dangerous thing. I don't care anyone says Because I get thousands of messages from people like you saying please help me I'm having nightmares ever since I did ayahuasca and if it wasn't dangerous spiritually, you wouldn't need a shaman There to guide the ceremony a lot of people that take ayahuasca, if it wasn't dangerous spiritually, you wouldn't need a shaman there to guide the ceremony. A lot of people that take ayahuasca just kill themselves.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Okay, you guys are playing with fire, bro. You're playing with fire when you play with ayahuasca. I understand some of you feel some benefit. It's so sad that so many people have like, and I have friends that are like all into this, bro, so they're gonna get mad at me. I don't care, it's the truth. You're playing with things you don't even understand.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Oh, I see the elves. Yeah, you see maybe the nice gen. The nice from the demonic. Remember the demonic Roman Islam is not all evil. They have free will. So Satan wasn't always evil. He wasn't an angel. He fell from heaven because he disobeyed God. God allowed him to live amongst the angels because of his behavior and conduct on the earth. So when God created Adam, he gave the kingdom to this world, to Adam. He got mad, he got jealous. So when people talk about extraterrestrials, they talk about aliens. Yeah, we're in war with aliens, but it's not aliens. It's interdimensional demonic beings that are trying to destroy us.
Starting point is 00:21:42 And there's human beings that collaborate with them and you know who you are. And they do rituals and they go to islands and they do all kinds of things with kids. We're not dumb. And this is something we have in common with the Christians. We might say things a little bit differently, but this has been my message. This is Sonny's message too.
Starting point is 00:21:57 We are not enemies with Christianity. I don't need you to believe what I believe. I'm not gonna judge you. God's gonna judge you. We both believe Jesus Christ is coming back to earth. When he comes back peace and blessings be upon him. He will tell us who lied and who told the truth. But until he comes back let's focus on these godless, evil, corrupt individuals that only perpetuate war, poison our food, corrupt our children, destroy the
Starting point is 00:22:21 family structure, destroy the family unit, destroy the world piece by piece day by day That's the enemy you should be worried about It's not the Muslim praying five times a day who doesn't drink alcohol who shouldn't be looking at you know Images of naked people and videos like you know all the stuff on the internet who doesn't believe in gambling Who doesn't believe you should be charging blood money and interest which is why we have the inflation and the problems We have when our parents bought houses for $50,000, and today they're one, two million dollars, the same house, same bread, what?
Starting point is 00:22:50 Wood and stone, that's inflation caused by interest, blood money. So you have bigger problems than the Muslims, Christians. We're actually on the same team, but you've been lied to, you've been bamboozled. Isn't the reason Jesus flipped the table because of interest? Because of that we're dealing with interest. Oh, even back been bamboozled. Isn't the reason Jesus flipped the table because of interest? Because of their dealing with interest.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Oh, even back then? Yeah. Wow. It's forbidden. We believe, like I said, so you agree with the concept that there's one creator. That one creator that's above everything, that's the only being that we worship. And when I say worship,
Starting point is 00:23:18 I don't just mean like getting down and bowing your head. Which is how Jesus is. Not drinking alcohol, not sleeping with women when you have that option. Restraining, submitting. Submitting. That's what the word Muslim means. One who submits their will for God's sake.
Starting point is 00:23:30 That's all that Muslim means. One that submits their will to God and Islam means submission to God. So you agree with the fundamental principle that there's only one creator. The next thing is really that that creator that made the heavens and the earth and the sun. And all the dimensions we can see.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Can I finish? I'm tired. He's the king of cutting off. But the fact that the sun, if it was a thousand feet further away, we would freeze. And if it was closer, we would burn to death. Like that. Precise.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Preciseness in this simulation, that creator sent us messengers throughout time. That's basically what Islam is. And all those messengers came with the same message. So we don't believe that at the time of Abraham, he said, God told Abraham, you can't see me, because you can't see God. God's outside of time in itself.
Starting point is 00:24:16 He created the way we perceive time, the clock. He already knows what's going to happen, because he's outside of this whole simulation. We don't believe that he told Abraham, I can't see, you can't see me. And then at the time of Jesus, he said, I am a man now and my blood pays for you. No, we believe that Jesus was a Muslim too.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Jesus put his head on the ground, prayed to God and said, worship the God above. I'm not good, only God is good. Oh, God's good. I myself can do nothing, but whatsoever the Father's commandeth me, He did not have the same power as God. He had the power of other prophets and messengers. He was, you know, and they get angry, man, but again, we're not here to disprove it.
Starting point is 00:24:57 We're not here to disprove it. You guys will find out, we'll find out. We have bigger problems now. We got bigger fish to fry. This bickering of back and forth between Muslims and Christians has benefited nothing to humanity. All it does is fuel people's atheism. All it does is make people say, that's why I don't believe in God. Look at the way they are. Yeah, I remember before I ever accepted Islam,
Starting point is 00:25:16 when I would see like the Christian-Muslim debates, I was like, these people are insane. Like this just looks, this looks like madness. It's 100% not the way. They're doing it in the parks in the UK. They're doing it in the streets in New York. they're doing it in the streets in New York. Debate is harmful when it's not done respectfully. You have people like Sam Schumann, he's a clown.
Starting point is 00:25:31 He's a complete clown who takes different sects of Islam and mixes them all together to try to disprove Islam. He's a clown. He's a complete clown. I say it here on record on your show, third time, clown. Why would I not debate someone like Sam Schumann? It's not because I can't destroy him with his arguments. It's because I know how disrespectful he is.
Starting point is 00:25:49 You'll never hear a Muslim. He called my mother a Muslim. Let me, let me. Damn. This is important. Not crazy. Okay, this is important. You will never hear a Muslim ever,
Starting point is 00:25:58 ever put down Jesus Christ. Now, some of the Christians say, well, you don't believe he's God's son. I'm talking about being disrespectful, calling Jesus names and this and that that and like disgusting words, okay? This Sam Schumann guy, whenever he speaks about it, you know, our prophet, he's so disrespectful. He's such a clown. He propagates Islamophobia. I would even go to, I wonder if he's even paid to do so. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:26:21 What do you even think is like, I personally hate the word Islamophobia. Like it just sounds gay. Like when gay people cry about homophobia. That's just the word that people use. Hatred towards Islam for no reason. Exactly, hatred towards Islam for no reason. Like, you don't have a logical reason to hate the religion, right? Like, you're just pulling at strings and complete nonsense. If they hate our religion, they should put down their algebra books,
Starting point is 00:26:42 which would probably, these lights probably wouldn't even be on without algebra. Like literally most of the stuff you have today, when you go study the history that they don't want you to know, it came from a Muslim. I know it's hard to admit, but it did. Like when you wear your cap and gown in the spring, as a lot of you are finishing high school right now, you'll be called alumni of your school, your college that you're finishing. That comes from the Arabic word, alim, which means scholar, and the cap and gown actually comes from the Muslim
Starting point is 00:27:08 universities, brother. So I'm not here to push it one way or the other. My message is, I know what Sunni is through, Muslims and Christians need to be on the same side. They have more in common than they do not. As far as arguing about Jesus divinity, that's not our problem. When Jesus Christ comes down, let Him tell us who was right and wrong. Until then, like I said Sonny, and I think you agree, let's focus on these people who are beyond demonic. They got you hating people that dress like the Virgin Mary's mom. You hate Muslim women because they dress like the Virgin Mary's mom.
Starting point is 00:27:39 I mean, think about it, Sean. These women literally cover... No, no, but you guys should support the women that are on billboards, butt naked in G-strings, selling cheeseburgers for 50 cents as they sell their soul the longer. They've taken your daughters and turned them into whores to sell cheeseburgers, perfume, and soda, and they sold you that that's liberation.
Starting point is 00:27:59 They've destroyed your family structures. They've destroyed everything that was normal and wholesome about life. And Europe is reaping the worst benefit. But they want you to direct your hatred towards the Muslims who are still, for the most part, holding on to the nuclear family. It is such a threat to these people that are trying to destroy the world, their system, and their games that they're playing with all of humanity.
Starting point is 00:28:19 And I need a break because my mouth's killing me. So, Sunny, take over. Man. Well, uh...ny Fahs. Maybe Sneako and Kanye can reunite Christianity and Islam, right? Is Kanye a Christian still? I don't know, yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 00:28:33 He is. They don't consider him, listen, I mean a lot of, I'm not crazy about the path he's taken, I'll be honest with you, I'm not crazy. As far as, I understand a lot of his frustrations. I think a lot of it just comes from the point of view from but I think some of it is kind of like just off like come on man a little off the rails there a little bit you know and I don't think it's a good representation of Christianity in my opinion but I'm not here to judge him either I'm not God yeah I mean I think it's cool what he's doing with pushing free speech to like the absolute that I support one Listen as much as I may not like some of things that it's really just the stuff with his wife like showing her naked That's kind of the only way where they're split now. No, they're not. Yeah, they are. No, that was a rumor I feel like they break up every week. I don't know. I don't know man. I spoke about that on your show, too
Starting point is 00:29:17 Yeah, either way proud of sneak over Yes, that's awesome. Listen no matter what you got it You got to give respect to people, even if you don't like what they're saying, if they have the balls and the courage to actually say it in front of the world stage, no matter what it is, you gotta have some, there's a little bit of respect,
Starting point is 00:29:34 we're like, damn, that person does not give a fuck. That person right there, that's what they think, that's like, to do it on that level, I'm not saying I agree with what they're saying, but to have the courage to speak in that fashion and no fucks given, you're either A, out of your fucking mind, or B, you have balls the size of, you know, grapefruit. I mean, just how far pushing the pendulum is insane.
Starting point is 00:29:56 But free speech is under danger. Free speech is under attack. People are being suppressed. People are being put down just because of their thoughts and their beliefs. And some of these laws that they're trying to push right now through Congress, okay, are being suppressed, people are being put down just because of their thoughts and their beliefs. And some of these laws that they're trying to push right now through Congress, not even to get what's going on in the Middle East, I don't give a fuck what country it is. I do not care what country it is.
Starting point is 00:30:14 I do not care. We as Americans should be able to criticize and boycott any fucking country, including our own. So the fact that you have senators and congresspeople who want to pass legislation for anyone that speaks out against any country that they put on that list that we're not allowed to talk about or boycott, I'm not even getting into who's right or wrong, should be a red flag for every American on the face of the planet. I don't care if it's my own people's country of Albania and they said you're not allowed to boycott Albania, you're not allowed to, that's dangerous to American democracy. That is an infringement on the first amendment.
Starting point is 00:30:46 That is a no-fly zone for every American. I don't care, even if you agree that they should wipe out every person over there in that war, cool, that's great. They're still coming after your free speech, man. They're still coming after your free speech. Wake up, wake up Americans. I mean, I'll say this, I'm scared to go to certain countries myself.
Starting point is 00:31:02 I am too. Just the people I've had on the show and like, what I'm hearing. UK. UK, I'm scared to go to certain countries myself. I am too. Just the people I've had on the show and like, UK I'm scared. Some countries in Asia, honestly too. It's scary right now. Yeah, I'm done man. I'm staying here. I've canceled a lot of trips.
Starting point is 00:31:16 UK is, you put out one tweet, you get arrested as soon as you land. UK is on my more fly zone. The taxes is the craziest part of the UK. Like I run an info offer and when people pay me, they have to pay an extra 20% to pay me. Is that the TikTok shop offer? Yeah, the TikTok shop offer.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Jeez. So they'll pay me thousands and then an extra 20% on top of that. Just to get, it's an info offer. That's crazy. And then they get taxed on their income. Oh my God. Like how do you take a percentage of someone's income
Starting point is 00:31:41 and then charge them an extra percent for when they're buying stuff? Every millionaire I know is leaving the UK. That's us too. Same for you, right? Yeah. Everyone's leaving. I don't blame them.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Tate left, a bunch of people left. Yeah. I mean, it's especially crazy right now. Yeah. Same with Canada. People are leaving Canada right now. Yeah, it's a shithole. The world is in complete chaos right now, and it's only getting more and more volatile
Starting point is 00:32:01 every day. There's no way I see us getting out of this economic situation without a complete collapse. And I don't think it was by accident. It was definitely done on purpose. And I've always said, I've said on your show many times, I think the whole plays into crypto. The whole entire plays into crypto. 100%. Trump's campaign is going pretty hard with crypto right now. They're all speaking at Bitcoin conference next week. What do you think about XRP, bro?
Starting point is 00:32:22 I don't have any, but it looks like I'm in a suit. Honestly, what do you think about it? I think that's gonna be the network that they build the entire system on, I think. I'm not even a crypto expert. I think they're gonna use XRP, in my opinion, in some fashion, because it's the only one that can handle the types of transactions.
Starting point is 00:32:39 I look at Bitcoin more like a block of gold. I can't take the block of gold and go into a grocery store. There might be some people that take it, but very few would want to transact business in that way. So Bitcoin is the store of value, but they need something to run the infrastructure because the whole play, the Antichrist system, in my opinion, I believe that's what's being built, has already been built and is going to be completed very soon, will operate on a crypto based system. Fiat currency as bad as it is in a horrible store and I'm not here to argue that with you crypto psychos. I get it, okay?
Starting point is 00:33:08 I understand how bad a fiat currency is. We're not using gold and silver which is what we really should be using because that's only true store of value. It's God's money. I understand all that. But they need something to run that electronic system and I think XRP, one of these networks
Starting point is 00:33:22 is definitely going to be it. If I had to bet my life, it's XRP. We'll see in five years if he's right. I don't know bro everyone I know with millions of dollars hates XRP It's always the one do you know any big boys that have XRP not me personally No, so which one would it be then something has to run the whole entire system which that way XRP just seems like the normie coin. That's kind of the vibe. I've gotten from it That's exactly the best one to push. It's normal. It's for normal people. It's normal. It has a lot of upside since it's only a dollar, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:51 It's more than that. It's kind of surging right now. Oh, it's more than a dollar and a half. It broke 230 yesterday. I don't know what it's at right now. But what I'm saying is they need something to run the infrastructure. You need something that can be quick to transact. From my understanding of it, it transacts very quickly. And there's plenty of it. It's not like Bitcoin, you know? Bitcoin's more big blocks and all that.
Starting point is 00:34:09 You know what I mean? I mean, it's a hundred grand a coin now. Most people can't afford that. No, they can't. I mean, I know you can buy little pieces of a coin, but I mean, that's my opinion. I think this all heads into a new world system. They need something to control all of us.
Starting point is 00:34:22 I do believe there's still an agenda for a global society. I believe that these people that have been doing what they're doing saw that there was pushback so they're being a little bit more like, like, I don't know, like, I think we bought a little bit of time, but we don't have a lot of time. Yeah. What do you guys think about this war with India and Pakistan? You think there's some nefarious characters behind it? 100%.
Starting point is 00:34:40 First and foremost, Pakistan is the only Muslim country on earth that has a nuclear weapon. I believe that this war, if it goes into a full blown war, it's either A, a distraction from the arrest of Imran Khan, the former prime minister of Pakistan. They almost had revolution last year. Once they threw him in jail, the country was going crazy. There was videos of police. People were going crazy when they arrested the last guy, Imran Khan. So either A, what's going on in the Kashmir region is A, a distraction to make people
Starting point is 00:35:07 forget about what happened with Imran Khan and their own country, or B, it is a push to echo war between India and Pakistan so they can get their nuclear weapons out of Pakistan's control so there will be no Muslim countries on earth that have nuclear power. I didn't know Pakistan had a nuke. They're the only ones in the world that have have nuclear power. I didn't know Pakistan had a nuke. They're the only ones in the world that have a nuclear weapon. Who would it benefit if the Pakistanis did not have nuke? Or if there was regime change,
Starting point is 00:35:32 so they have someone in power who leans more towards certain countries? I'll leave the rest up to you, my friends. You just had Rollo on. Is his take still like sleeping with a bunch of women? No, so he's, they call him the OG of the Red Pill movement, I believe, or something like that. He's married.
Starting point is 00:35:49 He's married now? He's been married for 29 years. So he's been with the same woman for 29 years. Same body count since he met her. Oh wow. They're exclusive. Interesting. Yeah, but you're probably more so referencing like Myron
Starting point is 00:35:59 and Fresh and the Red Pill guys. That's the thing about the Red Pill is that there's no fundamental of what it is. There's no book saying that this is the red pill. For me, red pill always just meant seeking truth. So that went from following Andrew Tate to self-help gurus, to reading books, to inevitably Islam. That's what the red pill was for me.
Starting point is 00:36:17 It was always just seeking what the truth is. And that's what I believe to have found. Now it's gone so far from that. You know what's... Yeah, well, because people say, are you in the red pill? Do you follow it? And it's like, well, this guy says sleep with a thousand women. This guy says sleep with 40.
Starting point is 00:36:29 This guy says get married. It's like, it doesn't mean anything. There's no structure. The thing with Islam is that everyone follows the same book. We believe that. So we believe the Quran is the direct words of God. It's like I said, that God that created everything. When you're reading the Quran, you're reading the direct words.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Like the author, first person. God speaks in first person in the book. It's not Mohammed's book. It's peace speaking. Yeah, no, like really think about that for a second. So then logically thinking, if this book claims to be the direct words of God, the creator, if it's not,
Starting point is 00:37:01 there would be a gajillion contradictions, false predictions, and you can't find one in the Quran. That's the craziest part about it is that it invites you to challenge it. It invites you, there's a verse in the Quran that says, if this were for anyone other than your Lord, if this were from anyone other than your Lord, surely it would be filled with mistakes.
Starting point is 00:37:22 It invites you to try to disprove Islam. And so that's what I find the funniest part about all the Muslim hate stuff is that people don't actually, they can't disprove the religion in any sense. You can't prove that the Quran isn't the word of God, and you can't prove that the prophet is a false prophet. People can only make things up and lie.
Starting point is 00:37:40 He marries kids. He marries kids. Yeah, so they'll just literally, they'll completely lie. It's complete blasphemy, so they'll just literally, they'll completely lie. It's complete blasphemy. Or they'll say, or they'll criticize the character. So they'll say, like, look what these Muslims are doing here. Right. When that just doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:37:54 You have Mexican guys coming in, you know, dealing drugs over the border. You don't say Christian gang cartels. It's Mexican guys coming in. When the UK, when they're shipping in all these Pakistani third-world immigrants, why is it Muslim now? Why isn't it just third-world idiots coming in? Islam is the only religion in the world that is used, right? So they always use Muslim religion to to name criminals. They don't do it in any other religion. Really? Muslim terrorists, Muslim this, Muslim that. They don't do that. Why don't they, when some...
Starting point is 00:38:25 When the Rohingya were being massacred, why don't they say the Buddhist terrorists? When the guy went and shot up Christ Church mosque, Christian extremists, they didn't call him a Christian terrorist, they only reserved those words from Muslims. So they can desensitize you, make you hate them,
Starting point is 00:38:42 make you agree with what's been going on in the Middle East for the last 50 years basically But the last you know since 2001 so you don't feel bad when you're seeing people holding up their babies legs and arms and you're like, yeah, that's all right It's just those Muslims those fucking animals fuck them, you know, fuck the Muslims fuck it. Let them let them die They don't have souls fuck them, you know Muslims and getting the most hate right now online I think I would say it's probably going the other way more than ever right now, I mean they have
Starting point is 00:39:08 you know, I feel bad I have a lot of friends and family that are and Who maybe don't agree with the way things have been handled over there. I mean, I surely don't it's excessive. It's disgusting and I warned them on October 7th after that. I said, guys, the way you handle this, even if you have the upper hand and you're stronger, you know, showing some mercy would have done more to win the hearts and minds than, oh, I can annihilate my enemy. You know, yeah, what happened on October 7th, yes, it was horrific, but people have forgotten about that now because of the way you responded to it.
Starting point is 00:39:42 It's also that it was, you know, they knew October 7th was going to happen and everyone knows that. We don't got to dive into that too much, but. Very fishy shit, you know? Yeah. But, you know, for me it's like, and I know he thinks the same way, like, I have a lot of family, friends, people that I love,
Starting point is 00:40:02 people that I grew up with, people that I went to college with. I got nothing against them. I got nothing against their faith. But to criticize the response of how a certain government, that's not my government, responds to something. When I've called out everything in the last 30 years that I've found to be excessive, I started protesting when I was in fourth grade for what was happening to the Bosnian Serbs. I was involved as a young boy. I learned about Kashmir for the first time, which relates to the whole India-Pakistan thing. I never knew even where that was on the map, but I remember going to some dinners with my uncle, and they were trying to raise funds for people that were, you know, stuck in this violence between India and Pakistan.
Starting point is 00:40:42 So, I've been active my entire life I've been an activist as far as protesting supporting other people even if they're not my own Because it doesn't matter what religion what faith what creed I truly believe we are all brothers and sisters We are all the children of Adam and for us to not speak out when we see brutal treatment of people. Okay, and now they've announced they're not gonna leave. They're gonna just fully occupy that place. And that's what it was all about. Like at least have the courage to say it.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Stop lying to all of us. Just say you wanted the land, you're taking it. No one seems to stop you. He admitted to it. There's video of him admitting to it ahead of time. Last week, no, last week was like, I'm not saying anything that's not on the news right now. I'm not even talking about opinion.
Starting point is 00:41:23 This is like, he says that we're not gonna to leave, we're just going to occupy it. Okay. And I said, I said this when everything started. If he's truly not trying to cleanse them out of there, then he won't occupy. He'll let them return. Well, I guess that's what it was all about from day one in my opinion. It doesn't make me anti this or anti that. It makes me sad to see friends of mine that have to worry about going outside now because
Starting point is 00:41:48 there is a lot of anti-Semitism going on around right now. And anti-Semitism is both ways, right? Muslims and Arabs, you know, Arabs and **** are both Semitic, right? So there is a lot of anti-Semitism on both sides right now, not just **** Arabs. They're both feeling the backlash of anti-Semitism, because they're both Semitic-speaking people. It just makes me sick, like, we need to end this thing once and for all. There needs to be some way to peace. All this loss of life.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Like nobody's hating anybody, Sonny. Like I don't hate these people. Some people that are out there that are influencers are trying to group them all in one. That's why I don't agree with Kanye's rhetoric. I don't. I don't agree with putting all people in one box because of the actions of a couple of leaders of those people. My family was massacred by Serbians and I don't hate all Serbians. Some of my people might hate me for even saying that, but that's not going to fix the world or the problems that we have or heal from the past.
Starting point is 00:42:40 But there has to be an acknowledgement at some point where you say, I know what my people are doing is wrong. I know what my government's doing is wrong. When I see pictures and bodies of dead children every two seconds I know this is wrong. When I see people starving to death and it doesn't have to be that way I know it's wrong. Whether it's my enemy or my friend some of the first reverts to Islam were prisoners of war, Sonny. The overwhelming majority when the battles began because of the way the Prophet Muhammad treated those people. This is how you treat it.
Starting point is 00:43:07 We are prisoners. It was love and compassion to his enemy, which is why the religion flourished. They said, this is how you treat us. We tried to kill you and you're clothing us the way you clothed yourselves. You're feeding yourselves the way you feed your family. Then this is the mercy you show your enemy. We want to be Muslims. Love is more powerful than hatred could ever be. And I just wish some of the people on the other side of the ocean that can push buttons
Starting point is 00:43:33 and drones and jets and probably nukes or whatever they have. Don't you know you're going to see God one day? You're going to have to answer. Show mercy so God shows mercy to you Sean do you do you think that like what do you think happens after death? You have any idea? Mmm. That's a tough one. I don't know up here heard a lot of different Perspectives on this but I don't know. What do you think makes the most sense to you? From what you've heard I Lean more towards reincarnation personally. You think so?
Starting point is 00:44:07 Yeah. You come back. I know that's not your belief, but that's what I lean to, yeah. I can respect it. I can respect it till he reads the book. Go read the book, Sean. I know you read books. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Read the last testament. You might be surprised, bro. I mean, either way though, so if you believe in reincarnation, if you're bad, you come back as an animal. If you're good, you probably come back as something better. Not animal. Worse human, maybe an Indian. Yeah, I would stick it to human level.
Starting point is 00:44:29 I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Yo. That's foul, bro. That's just a joke. You're about to get shot by the Pajima. That's another group getting a lot of hate though, online, Indians.
Starting point is 00:44:39 Yeah, I don't know, man, I don't know what the hell is wrong with everybody, man. It's just a joke. No, I know you're joking, but it's just crazy how everyone's at each other's throats right now, man. Yeah. Either way, so like, do you have a reasoning for believing that? I just, I'm a believer of karma.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Like what goes around comes around. Yeah, and I think that might extend past our current life. I just don't believe we come back. I mean that kind of- You think we're one and done? I think you are who you are. You're going to always be Sean Kelly. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:11 And you've been inserted into this simulation as God with his wisdom placed you. You made the choice, you have free will, and now you're living out that choice. Either way, it's not worth, I'm assuming you would agree with this, it's not worth taking the risk and being a bad person that you'll come back. No. Because what if you don't?
Starting point is 00:45:32 No. There's no coming back after. Yeah, I always try to do good by people. Do you ever think about death? I used to fear it a lot. And now? Now I've- How old are you, Sean?
Starting point is 00:45:41 Now I'm 28 and now that I've seen some death, I'm more accepting of it. I still fear it a little bit. You ever put someone very close to you on the ground? Yeah. Yeah. Breaks you, bro. I know. Now that I've seen it firsthand like that, I've learned to really live my life with more meaning. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:58 You never know when it's your time. You don't know when it's your last day, brother. I buried people 20 years old, had an aneurysm out of nowhere, healthy, never drank, smoked, nothing. Cousin of mine, literally 21 years old in the ground, brother, never did anything wrong. You don't know, bro. Did you ever play Fortnite? Yeah, I still play. If you were to compare Islam to Fortnite, it'd be like you're on spawn island.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Now imagine you're on spawn island and you are the only one that knows that this is just spawn island. So you see everyone else around you getting mats and popping shields and grabbing guns, and you're like, brother, we're on Spahn Island. It's not that deep. We're about to be on the battle bus, whether it's in 10 seconds or in five seconds, doesn't matter. I know where I'm going. That's basically what Islam is.
Starting point is 00:46:40 It's like God says in the Quran, this life is a blink of an eye and compared to the eternal afterlife. It's like nothing. So don't grab so much loot, don't steal from your brothers and remember where you got to drop next. I love it. I love that. That's an interesting analogy actually.
Starting point is 00:47:02 So you pretty much believe in destiny then. Yes. So we believe that essentially like how much wealth you're going to get is already written. Really? Yeah. So not necessarily the dollar amount because money made in an ethical way and an unethical way has different weight to it.
Starting point is 00:47:18 So let's say you're destined to make $50 million. It's up to you and your free will and if you're going to go and make that in an ethical way, or an unethical way. And that's what your test has to do with it. That's why you have free will, that's why you're here. It's just, what do you want to do? Do you want to do the right thing or not? So someone like Jack Dougherty that makes like a million dollars a month on OnlyFans,
Starting point is 00:47:37 I believe he doesn't have to do OnlyFans to make a million dollars a month. He could do something else, he's smart, he'll figure it out and it'll work. In essence, selling your soul brother. Right. For a dollar. You know? So when you make money unethically, what does that mean in Islam? So your money has no blessing in it.
Starting point is 00:47:55 So if you earned your money from, let's say, you know, selling alcohol, let's say, based on Islam. Yeah. You can make millions of dollars, but let's say you go donate now and you want to help people. Yeah, you're doing something good, but none of it counts towards your spiritual deeds. Really? Because the money wasn't earned right.
Starting point is 00:48:15 So it's basically like you cheated. You made the money in an unethical way. That money is now polluted. Doesn't matter how much you give of it away. Doesn't matter if you save a thousand people with it because its seed was rotten. Damn. That's called halal. Halal money.
Starting point is 00:48:30 Haram money is women that sell their bodies, their souls. It never ends well for them. You see how it is. Is it ending well for them, son? The vast majority? No, I stick with them. When I see people with this, what's her name? Raleigh Reed.
Starting point is 00:48:42 The one, you had her here, no offense to your guests, you know. The one that was thousands of men or whatever. Oh, Bonnie Blue. Not Bonnie, it was Lily Phillips. I swear to God, people should feel bad for this woman. Like, to even think, first of all, of consuming the content. The energy that's charged behind that. The guys that are partaking in that.
Starting point is 00:49:03 You're even lower, bro. To me, she's mentally gone. She's lost her fucking mind and her soul. It's like, would you sleep with someone that was like, no offense, like mentally retarded, like, no, you wouldn't. That's what she is, bro. She's spiritually gone. She's mentally gone.
Starting point is 00:49:20 You cannot be normal in any capacity and do what the fuck she does. She is a plague. She is a symptom of the signs. All of you who consume her content, watching her do this stuff with thousands of men and the men that help her do it. These are people, for example, that are going to pay a heavy fucking price. She's going to pay a very heavy price. It ain't a black screen. No, this is not a threat for me. This is a spiritual consequence. When you... There's a difference between sinning behind closed doors
Starting point is 00:49:46 and publicly and having pride. I want to have pride when I sin. Okay, because pride always comes before the downfall. So when you're out there mocking God, especially the way she's doing it and all these men that are doing it publicly, you're publicly doing it and you're celebrating it and you're making it cool. He's gonna make an example of you. All you whores out there and you scumbags who consume the content. You're worse the men are worse. Okay women I ain't put them down. When you do it publicly shaking your ass your tits your this your that it does not end well for a lot of you. It really
Starting point is 00:50:21 doesn't. There's a spiritual or or as you would say, karma. There's a price for everything. Well, that's the crazy thing is that it affects them in this life. So whatever goal they have, making money so to take care of their family and fulfillment, they don't even get that fulfillment in this life and in the next life they're cooked.
Starting point is 00:50:39 So there's just no... Total loss. It's a total loss. Wait, so you do believe in the next life? Of course, man. Of course, yeah, that's the whole point. And it's eternal, it's forever. Oh, Wait, so you do believe in the next life? Of course. Yeah, that's the whole point Oh, I thought you didn't believe in reincarnation. Not in reincarnation. We believe in resurrection. Yeah Oh, okay, so just heaven and hell. How does that work?
Starting point is 00:50:53 We believe in yulet. You only live twice son. Twice. Second time counts. This life is a test and it determines where you go in the next one You're earning your place in the next realm. And the next life is immortality. Yep. It's eternal. You never die again, you never age. Physical body or spiritual? To my understanding, I'm not sure. I know you never die again, you never age. I would have to say spiritual, but it says we are resurrected, right? You'll always be 33 years old. That's the age in paradise. But it's like, what does it mean in this material realm? I just meant like our physical body right now. No, I know, but it's like- I don't know, you know, scholars,
Starting point is 00:51:28 but to my understanding, I think it might even be because we do get resurrected, right? Yeah, but it's like in a dream, it feels like you're in the material realm, but you're in a dream. You know what I mean? So it's hard to say if it's like- The scholars are a little bit better at answering that.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Like I always tell people, listen, whatever you hear stuff from me and Sonny, or anybody, or even you, or anyone that you have on this this show you should always question whatever information you're consuming people have mistakes I'm not the smartest person on earth definitely not the stupidest but you know you have to have respect for information if information wasn't that important they would need to spend billions of dollars pushing certain agendas and narratives and jingles to sell a soda,
Starting point is 00:52:06 right? So, you know, it's important to know where you get your information from, who's behind it, what, you know, why are they paid to talk about what they're talking about? So, you know, you know, you mentioned Sneko earlier. This is a guy I have a lot of respect for. I've never met him, you know, physically met him. I've FaceTimed two times because of Sonny. And I never knew his story. I didn't know, I had only heard about him like maybe a year before I met him. And I just knew, I was like,
Starting point is 00:52:32 I've seen his videos everywhere. I didn't really know much about him. He became Muslim. And I mean, he took it for real. Like, from my understanding, he got offered like 10, 20 million dollars. 20 million dollars, yeah. To advertise gambling.
Starting point is 00:52:45 Damn. Regardless if I do or don't believe in him or what he's saying, when you hear the fact that someone like Sneakwold could have been offered 20 million dollars to advertise gambling, and he's in his 20s, bro, and he didn't take the bag, that's someone I want to know. He would have been super lucky.
Starting point is 00:53:02 That's someone I want to do business with. That's someone I know that his morals and his character cannot be purchased. That's someone that if I found, just in my network, it doesn't mean I agree with everything one way or the other, but talking about as far as character, that's rarer than gold on this earth. To find someone with that type of character that most people would sell their mother's ass for $20 million, let alone their own. Okay?
Starting point is 00:53:25 So, to me, that's impressive. That's honorable to stand. And regardless of what the cases are, what they believe in, the fact that, bro, $20 million, bro, you're in your 20s. That's character. You want to know the definition of characters? That's fucking character. There's something in Islam where God,
Starting point is 00:53:43 whatever you give up for the sake of God, God gives you something better in return. So, for Sneakil giving up $20 million, according to Islam, he's going to be rewarded with something much greater than that in the afterlife. Yeah. Interesting. I know that's a big reason why he did it, that first specifically. That's true faith. That's faith.
Starting point is 00:54:00 To believe in the unseen. But even though we don't see God physically in this realm his signs are everywhere and we say he's not because he's a man want to clarify that's like the royal plural you can't imagine God so God tells us he's unlike the second error on a calculator so even if you had an image that popped up into your head and you're like that's God you could never even imagine because your minds created because that thought is a creation he's unlike the creation.
Starting point is 00:54:25 He's the creator. He's not born and he doesn't have children. Can't be born, right? I'm very careful. I don't want to mess anything up, you know? Kul hu Allahu ahad, Allahu samad, lam yalid, wa lam yulid,
Starting point is 00:54:37 wa lam ya kullahu, fufonu ahad. That's two white boys singing the Quran in Arabic, not our language. And we get a lot of back, why you guys pray in Arabic? Because it's to preserve the book. You lose 30 to 50% when you translate into another language. You do know this, Shon.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Especially religious scriptures. So the fact that it's the only faith in the world that regardless of where you live, nationality, think about it. I mean, you want proof of the faith? The only religion on earth where it's followers, regardless of where they're from geographically, cultural background, not because Arabs are superior to us because the prophets said they're not, they're actually going to be judged even harder than we are.
Starting point is 00:55:15 Why? Because the book came in their language. We all pray in Arabic to make sure what happened to the Old Testament, what happened to the Psalms of David, what happened to the gospel of Jesus Christ, peace and blessings be upon all the righteous prophets that walk the earth, does not happen to the last testament of God. That is why every Muslim on earth, including these two white boys right here, Italian and Albanian, we pray in Arabic to preserve that, but not because the Arabs are better than us. Okay? And Arabs are not the majority in this religion, by the way. It's actually Asians.
Starting point is 00:55:43 They only make up 20% of Muslims. Yeah, so to make something clear, like, Wow. If you were to read an English Quran, you're not reading the direct words of God. We say that ourselves. You're reading the translated words of God. So the Arabic, like the way the Quran came down,
Starting point is 00:55:58 it was over 23 years. So the prophet was meditating in a cave when an angel, like the code I explained to you, came to him and gave him one of the verses. So the prophet explained it like it was stitched onto his heart. So he was there meditating and a verse comes into his head. So he couldn't read or write. So he would then go back into the town in Mecca, read it to one of the scholars there,
Starting point is 00:56:20 they would write it down, and over 23 years, that's how the Quran was compiled. Wow. So it was like- But before the passing of his life, thousands of his followers had committed the text to memory because it's not, I know they say, oh, they're reciting, they're singing the book, okay?
Starting point is 00:56:36 It's sung in a fashion. Alhamdulillah, Irabil al-Amin, ar-raqman ir-raheem, maliki yawmi deen. You see the rhyme, you can the... without even understanding the language, you see a pattern, right? So you have people that are seven years old, brother, from the first word to the last word, they can recite the entire book without looking. I've witnessed this phenomenon, Sean Kelly, I swear to you, may I never see another day again.
Starting point is 00:57:03 I've seen thousands of people throughout my life leading prayers during Ramadan. You've witnessed it. Without watching the book, they can recite the entire thing. Perfect. And to make something clear, so like during Ramadan when you read the whole book, that's how he protected.
Starting point is 00:57:16 If that Imam, the leader, says the tiniest thing wrong, someone in the crowd stands up and corrects them. And we got it on our vlog together. Yeah. So the Quran isn't even a book. It's really oral transmission because since the time of the prophet, like you said, people have memorized it. That's how we know that it's the exact same
Starting point is 00:57:34 just because every Quran could be burned today and you could get a new one like that. In two seconds, it would be put back together. I don't know if they can do that with the Bible. That'd be tough. They can't, bro. It's too difficult. The Bible's much longer though, right?
Starting point is 00:57:44 What language? Well, first of all, what language? Greek, Aramaic, which one are we can do that with the Bible. That'd be tough. No they can't, bro. It's too difficult. The Bible's much longer though, right? What language? Well, first of all, what language? Greek, Aramaic, which one are we going to start with? It's not even a uniform language. You don't have the original Bible in its original language. That's a Greek word. Jesus was in Greek.
Starting point is 00:57:54 What was the original language for the Bible? Jesus spoke Aramaic. Aramaic. And maybe Greek. They're not even 100% sure. They can't even say it for certain. Yeah. So we believe the Bible has a lot of good in it.
Starting point is 00:58:04 Like we believe it's... Yeah, the words of God are in the Bible. Yeah, it's initially divinely inspired, but we believe that if Jesus was here today, he wouldn't give the Bible the full thumbs up because humans have tampered with it. That's the basic thing. We believe Jesus was Muslim.
Starting point is 00:58:18 We believe he prayed to God. He said the same things that we believe. We don't think he said, worship me, and that you needed a human sacrifice. And we love you Christians. We don't think he said, worship me, and that you needed a human sacrifice. And we love you Christians. We don't have beef with you. I don't care what people have done in the past. I don't care about unrighteous leaders.
Starting point is 00:58:33 And what really makes me sad, Sean Kelly, when you study the history of the Middle East, the only time all three religions were allowed to practice in peace is when Muslims had control of the Holy Land. That is a fact. A historical fact. I beg the Christians watching this to go pull up the history of Omar el-Khattab
Starting point is 00:58:48 when he conquered Jerusalem without war and he allowed all three faiths to practice their words in Jerusalem. He said, how come there are no... because the Christians had chased them out. He said, bring me 80 families. There's no way we can have Jerusalem without... This is a fact of history, Sean Kelly. Yet they'll never show it to you except a little bit in the movie Kingdom of Heaven with Orlando Bloom. It's disgusting, the manipulation of history, Muslims have always gotten along. It's been the last pretty much 100 years with all this chaos started and colonization and
Starting point is 00:59:20 Western powers meddling in their affairs. This is not a religious war because Muslims are not enemies with Christians. They have a protected class guaranteed to them by God. They are known as the people of the book. Those who received God's message before the Muslims, they are not our enemies, nor are we allowed to persecute them or hate them.
Starting point is 00:59:38 So maybe they can start treating us the same way too. Yeah, as a Muslim, you go to hell if you destroy another person's place of worship. Like that's strictly forbidden. And everything's about intention. So like I can never force you to convert to Islam. Even like before your prayers, the very first thing you do is you make intention
Starting point is 00:59:54 from the heart, because the only one that knows your intention is the creator. Chapter 2, 256, there is no compulsion in religion. Let me ask you a question, be honest. From even your, you know, we all have some bias in us, like if we're being real, okay, that we don't even witness we have subconsciously, right? When you hear some of this stuff, does it not kind of, your perceptions may be a little bit different of what you might have thought Muslims believe compared to what you're hearing from us?
Starting point is 01:00:20 I agree. Yeah, when I was growing up, I had a... You thought, this is what you thought a Muslim was, you ready? I agree. Yeah, when I was growing up, I had a... You thought, this is what you thought of Muslim, was it? Ready? That's what you thought. That's what you've been taught for 60 years. Since Delta Force, the movie Delta Force with Chuck Norris. Yeah. I said he has a machine gun and an anons. I would love if your editor would edit this in.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Chuck Norris, I love that movie, by the way. I was always rooting for Chuck Norris. You know, imagine the Muslims rooting for Chuck Norris, a white boy, to wipe out 500 Muslims. He was, because that's the power of Hollywood, right? Wait, let Sean go though. So he puts the machine gun into the nun's chest. Get back, I said, get back. So what do you think people are going to think? They're going to think we're animals.
Starting point is 01:00:57 Two billion people. They think all Muslims are only Arabic. They're 20%, bro. The other 80% are non-Arab. And they want you to feel desensitized so that when you see these images of babies and stuff, it... Ah, fuck those people. No, 100%. I was just saying, like, I grew up, you know, watching the news, watching Hollywood, watching movies and stuff, so I was definitely brainwashed. Great movies.
Starting point is 01:01:19 Interviewing Muslims in a certain light. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was too. I grew up the same way as you, I'm assuming. Yeah. True Lies was amazing. With Schwarzenegger, he's in the fighter jet, his daughter, and then he pushes the button and the terrorist suspenders get stuck on the missile. I mean, just amazing movies, man.
Starting point is 01:01:37 I mean, we got to make, we make good bad guys. You know, you guys do a great job, Hollywood. Yeah, I think a lot of women perceive it in a negative manner too, in the US at least. Yeah, they think that they're all backwards and wife beaters and you can have five women. Let me explain something to you, and we'll shut down on this note.
Starting point is 01:01:56 Islam allows men to have more than one wife, but the overwhelming majority don't. I wouldn't have two wives if you gave me all the fucking money on earth. If you gave me all the fucking money on earth, I would not have more than one wife. It is not a gift to men. Having more than one wife, polygamy is like, is like, my God help the man. May God help the man. Imagine having two of them at the same time. I need this, I need that. My nails, oh you did her nails better? That is not no gift to no men. Okay? But we live in a world where a lot of you
Starting point is 01:02:24 can't keep your legs closed and a lot of you can't keep your legs close, and a lot of you men don't have any respect for the women that you're with. Okay? So you get them pregnant, now you have all these bastards running around, which is 90% of violent crime in America, because we have a generation of bastards, these children that don't have fathers. Okay? So Islam didn't let the men have an escape.
Starting point is 01:02:41 It says you're going to fuck around, you take care of that woman, you take care of that woman, you take care of that child, you wouldn't have the problems we have today in today's world. I feel bad in some shape or form, I feel bad for the criminal. Because when you study their history,
Starting point is 01:02:53 there's something saying we can't judge them, man. They're growing up without fathers, bro. They're being pushed this filth by Cardi B and these fucking low lives. Fuck a man, I get some money. Fuck a man, I get, like sell everything just to get money, because that's going to make you happy.
Starting point is 01:03:06 That's going to really make you happy. Wait sexy ride. Ah! He's cocked. So Sean, that's what's going on, brother. So the fact that Muslims can have more than one wife is not a gift, bro. It's not a gift.
Starting point is 01:03:16 That's fucking death center. That guy's dying his 40s, bro. I wouldn't have two wives if you gave me all the money. Three, four, I would fucking jump off of a fucking building. I don't know how Tate and Elon do it, man. 10 plus wives each. Yeah, but are they wife wives though, bro? Like legally they are.
Starting point is 01:03:32 Baby mamas, I guess. But you technically can't get married legally anyway because you get arrested for polygamy. Unless you're in Nevada, son, which we in right now. Baby mamas, I guess. Shout out to the morning too. Not wives, yeah, wives would be a little different. What do you think about that though?
Starting point is 01:03:45 The fundamental principle that like, the only thing that you pray to is the one creator. You don't pray to creation, only the creator. The fact that you're responsible for your sins and your actions and that you're judged for it and that this life is a test. Does that like resonate with you or like make sense at all? The second part does, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Which part? Accountability. Accountability? Yeah, I'm big on that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which part? Accountability. Accountability. Yeah, I'm big on that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The first part I'd still have to learn more about praying to one creator. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:11 That makes sense. Sean's dope, I like Sean, bro. Yeah, I'm just curious. Sean's got good energy, bro. Sean's a good guy. Well, it resonates with you. I'm assuming we're wrapping up soon. Yeah, I hope so.
Starting point is 01:04:22 What do you think about TikTok Shop? Have you bought anything on it? I have, I'm not we're wrapping up soon. What do you think about TikTok Shop? Have you bought anything on it? I have, I'm not going to lie. Like I know people call me gay for doing that, but like I've literally bought on TikTok Shop a push-up thing. Have you seen that one? Yeah, the push-up bar one.
Starting point is 01:04:35 The vibrating plate one to recover faster. No, I fuck with it, dude, to be honest. Yeah, TikTok Shop's lit. My girl buys a lot of stuff on TikTok. Yeah? Yeah, your girl buys a bunch of stuff. I mean, the pricing is pretty good on there, because I'll compare it to like Amazon and stuff.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Yeah, so TikTok will run flash sales on TikTok shop right now, and they'll be losing money just to get people to buy on the platform. So their whole goal is to get you to buy one thing. They'll basically give it to you for free, just so you can see it's not like some team who scam bullshit. It's like an Amazon.
Starting point is 01:05:04 I think it genuinely- It's actually the new home shopping network, bro. It's pretty much. Like it's not like some T-Mu scam bullshit. It's like an Amazon. I think it genuinely- It's actually the new home shopping network, bro. It's pretty much. Like it's even more intense. Yeah, but the fact that- Because every scroll left or right is someone, hey, look at this guys, if you buy this. You see people of all ages,
Starting point is 01:05:14 like if you're not on that marketplace, you're missing out on money. I'm about to start with his program and he's going to be coaching me. We just got Becca TikTok account. Oh yeah. Becca Shopper. It's not up yet though.
Starting point is 01:05:23 What are you going to sell? I'm going to sell, I mean, listen. Everything. And if you buy now, we'll double your order and throw in this fucking worthless fucking bonus gift. It's like eighties advertising. That's how it's, that's the state it feels like. Yeah, but I want to make, I want to have fun with it, man.
Starting point is 01:05:36 Like I want to like push things that I really like, that I really screen. Like one thing I definitely saw on TikTok shops that I want to buy is like that thing that like, doesn't matter what car, it'll like Bluetooth your phone and like pop up the screen. You can watch TV everything, right? So whatever like, you know right into the you know, a lot of car manufacturers They turn off the ability for you to use the like watching function on your screens. This little thing you plug it in I saw it all over TikTok. It's like awesome. I saw some guy yesterday drove me into uber
Starting point is 01:06:02 He was like watching MacGyver reruns. I I'm like, oh, I got it through TikTok, it was like 40 bucks. Awesome device. That's cool. The nice thing about being a TikTok shop creator is you can promote anything you want. You don't just have to promote this supplement or this car thing, you can go into the product marketplace
Starting point is 01:06:17 in the back end, request a sample for literally anything you're passionate about. What about if I want to upload my products to get approved, like if someone wanted to sell on Amazon? So that's the skill set that I just don't have to be quite honest. Because I have some things that I would like to create. I focus on the creator side of things. So my whole business is I train normal people into becoming TikTok shop creators, how to make viral videos,
Starting point is 01:06:34 and then I connect them with the brands. So it's literally the best side hustle on the internet right now. Like if you have a wife that is home all day doing nothing, she can at least start making TikToks, just reviewing products, showing before and afters. Little of this celebrity used it, and whenever they get a sale, they make money with it. Bro, I know there's crazy money there. My boy Santa Cruz Medicinals.
Starting point is 01:06:52 He's printing right now. Oh my God, seven figures, maybe eight now, on TikTok Shop. Not a month, but still. He's a esoteric health influencer, and he launched a beef tallow skincare product. And a Lentil X and my girl bought it bro She made me use it last week. Yeah, but he's not ever your name is that he's talking you owe me like 50 cents, bro
Starting point is 01:07:11 Yeah, the electrolytes crush it though to that he sells he's and the mastic gum. I had the founder of that one on yeah It's such a revolution. It's all on tiktok, right? It's such a Sun you're right. So we're talking some serious though here, right? Because I want to launch like a halal line of skin products. You know, as Muslims, we never know what's in our soap, what's in our gel. You know, we could be... because in Islam, you have to like purify before you pray. So imagine now, you take a full shower, you get ready to go to mosque, and all of a sudden you're putting gel on, and you might be putting pig fat on you,
Starting point is 01:07:38 which would invalidate your prayer. Wow. Well, it's about intention, so you don't want to say that. I understand, but you know what I'm trying to say? Yeah, yeah. I think we live in a day and age where, you know, it's a crime. Like the government needs to make it where... And a lot of people that suffer from allergies have these problems, right? Like they use acronyms, the FDA, they need to...
Starting point is 01:07:54 It's so hard to even know what the hell you're putting into your body or on your face, you know? Like all the different scientific words. I'm allergic to propylene glycol. Half the time they're using acronyms. Like it's crazy, man. This needs to be standardized. People need to know, like, okay, you're using some type of pig fat.
Starting point is 01:08:10 It shouldn't be called glycerin. Yeah. Pig fat. You know, like standard, like, ah, it's just crazy. It's been fun, guys. Let's do this again. No, no, Sean. It's been great chatting.
Starting point is 01:08:20 We'll link all your socials below. God willing, Gossam. Thank you, guys. Peace.

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