Digital Social Hour - Undefeated Boxing Prodigy: Inside the Mind of a Champion | Ashton Sylve Digital Social Hour #37

Episode Date: June 30, 2023

Ladies and gentlemen, buckle up for one of the most riveting episodes of the Digital Social Hour yet! This time, we welcome the pride of the boxing ring - the undefeated star known for his nine knockouts - the one and only, Charlie Cavalier. Experience the thrill as we dive deep into the mental and physical game of boxing. Did you ever wonder how mind games play out during a face-off? Or how much of what you see in the ring is based on mental strength? Explore these answers firsthand from someone who's lived it out inside the ring. Unravel Charlie's journey from a young 7.5 years-old boy starting out in the gym to becoming the successful boxer he is today. Hear him debunk presumptions, share tales of his training regimen and open up about his passion that is boxing. Oh, and did you ever read about Floyd Mayweather betting on his sport? Well, we are touching on that too! Join us as we bring the unseen side of boxing to light, and you might even pick up a trick or two for your next friendly match. Do not miss out on this episode. These stories are raw, real, and filled with hard-hitting truths. So, hit play NOW and step into the ring with us. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/digitalsocialhour/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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well inside the gym when i got to the gym was like seven and a half eight but like one of my best knockouts i think a week later like jackake called my dad yeah how'd he get your dad's number i don't know i swear i knew that's right all right sean kelly here welcome back to the Digital Social Hour. I'm here with Ashton Silva and my co-host Charlie Cavalier. How we doing, guys? Thank you for having me. Good. Absolutely, man.

How's everything going with boxing? Pretty good. I mean, my career is on a great track, so I'm happy where I'm at. Yeah. You're undefeated, right? Yeah. Nine KOs. Jeez. Nine KOs. I saw that. Man. You're undefeated, right? Yeah. Nine KOs. Jeez. Nine KOs. I saw that. Man. So,

uh, what's the next fight? Um, we honestly working on that right now. Um, we have a few options. I feel like it's, it's very exciting.

Um, I don't know if I could really speak on it, but, but I just know it's going to be something exciting for, you know, people to watch. Yeah. I'm pumped for the Ryan Garcia fight coming up.

Yeah. That's dope. Who you got winning that one? Uh, I tell people it's like a 50-50 fight. Okay. I just feel like Ryan has different abilities that puts him one step closer to being victorious at night. Right.

Of course, he has his speed. He has his height. I mean, Tank, he's dealt with's dealt with, like, fighters like that. But I just feel like Ryan's been in that position, and he knows how to, you know, use his ability. And he's, you know, comfortable with his style. So that's the most important part, you know, comfortable with your style and been in that experience before.

I feel like Tank is definitely favored. Like, I see a lot of people saying he's going to win. Yeah, he's definitely favored. I mean, you expect Tank to win like you know that's um that's just kind of you know something that you just expect like you know you see Tank knocking everybody out yeah um absolutely Ryan um he hasn't faced you know too too many you know people but um but you can still see there that there's um there's talent yeah there's definitely talent.

He's fast. There's ways of him being tanked. I'm putting my money on Ryan. You think so? I'm going to make a bet. I'm going to make a bet. So a lot of professional athletes are not allowed to bet on their own sport. Are boxers allowed? Like can you go bet on a boxing match if you want to?

I'm not sure about that, but I don't think so. I think I heard something about Floyd doing that or something. Yeah, because he's got too much inside info on boxers. That's the beauty of it. He's got the inside info. Have you ever been an underdog in a fight you're going into? I mean, yeah, quite a bit. I feel like each one of my fights, but not too much of an underdog.

It's like, again, once again, like 50-50. Or actually like the records, just like, you know, make it seem like that they're, you know, the top dog in that situation. Right. But especially my last fight, he was pretty much a veteran. I think he had over, like, 30 fights. Damn. He'd been on that stage before. I think, yeah, he fought Ryan before.

Oh, yeah? But, yeah, so he was, in a way way predicted to be the top dog of the fight. But there's, you know, there's the other side, like from eye to eye. Look at me. You just expect me to be. It was just a challenging fight. Like a lot of people thought it was. Right. Yeah. Because he had a lot of experience. Yeah, definitely. He's got good stamina. Uh-huh. Yeah. Obviously, boxing is a very physical sport. How much of it would you say is mental? Because you're one on one with your opponent in there. Is there a lot of mental games going on like 80 of it is mental really wow definitely um

i mean you kind of look at a lot of a lot of the best fighters like you know the physical part is like you know the back end of it like that's just like the bonus part of it um i mean like you look at us right now like devon haney is like one of the top fighters in uh the weight class i'm in and he you know doesn't really have knockout power he's not the fastest you know guy but like he just beat people every round with you know just his you know his mental part his smarts and like his iq right same with like floyd yeah it was the same you know scenario so it's like the the physical part was like the you know the bonus of it wow i never thought it'd be 80 that's crazy that's a super high stat i mean obviously a lot of

physicality goes into it but at a certain point when it's just you and them in the ring like it's it's mental it definitely i feel like it's just with any sport too like you know basketball um kobe he's not the best shooter you know he's not the best at everything but he's like the mental jordan same thing tom brady you know he's not he don't have the best physique but you know he's like the best quarterback one of the goats right so that's facts yeah tom brady's not that athletic no i mean so so when you go into a fight what is your mentality are you are you angry are you focused are you like what is is there like a rage burning inside like what is your pre-fight mental preparation look like? I mean, honestly, my pre-fight is, like, really kind of taking things as if it was a sparring day. You know, like, I don't really try to, like, overwhelm myself about it.

So I'm, like, pretty much in the room or, like, you know, downstairs wherever I'm at, probably playing the game inside the room, like, you know, chilling with my friends and stuff. Because once again, I'm kind of, like, you know, real young. I just turned 19, so I'm kind of, like don't know if you if i really have a child mentality but like at the same time i do so i don't want to like you know grow myself up too much you know i'm in like you know a grown man adult you know uh profession but so i go about it but other than that like when i'm in the ring or like i try to look for little things that like you know give me a little anger like bring the other side out of me so like yeah it's really like the face off like

you know like of course you have to we don't have to do the face off but like when we're facing off like I just always like think like why is he like looking at me that long like you know like stuff like that like you know like I just try to take little things and just like you know turn it into something that you know will get me to that that, you know, will get me to that side. You know, it's funny about the face-off thing. I was with Tony Ferguson and he was telling me how much of a mental game that is. And I never really thought about it like that. Yeah, you could definitely see it and so on.

Yeah, you could get in people's head during the face-off for sure. Like McGregor does it for sure. Yeah, different people have like their little tactics. Yeah. Like he got in all those heads so bad dude like some people even like um like try to like um like give it to you in a positive like they try to like you know soften you up a bit like you know try to smile at you and like you know be sweet to you so like you know you don't want to like connor tried doing that against that one guy recently.

I forget his name. He lost to him. So what is your strategy when going into a face-off? Are you there to, like, make a friend? Are you there to – No, I'm not. Are you softening him up or are you, like, staring him down? I'm just staring down. You're staring down.

Silence. Dead face. I don't have nothing to say. Okay. You don't talk? Nah. I just, you know, just look at him. Let your boxing talk yeah yeah

yeah but i mean if it comes to like like like say like over internet like i'll probably talk a little bit but i'm just not really like you gotta talk like that yeah like you gotta sell the fight sometimes yeah yeah like when you have to sell the fight of course yeah like other than that like my personality is not really like just talking like you know talking mess you're down to business yeah how did you get in touch with jake Jake Paul and what made you sign to him? So I was supposed to fight under his undercard like when I was like 17. And I was under the Willie fight. And they were trying to depend.

I mean, they were trying to decide whether if they wanted to fight in Ohio or like Texas. And like Texas, when I was 17, I was able to fight. You know, right there. Like you can't fight in the U.S. under 18, but certain states will let you. So they end up making it into Ohio. So I was able to fight. But later on down the line, I had a fight coming up. Actually, my first pro debut in the U.S.

I fought in Pomona, California. One of the managers or the co-founder, Nikisa, if you know, Nikisa came and, you know, he watched my fight. It was like one of my best knockouts, honestly. Nice. And I think a week later, like, Jake called my dad. What? How did he get your dad's number?

I don't know. I still haven't asked my dad about it, but he called my dad. What? How'd he get your dad's number? I don't know. I still haven't asked my dad about it, but he called my dad. I guess my dad was telling me a story. He called him like, you know, yo, it's Jake. And I was like, who's Jake? Like, kind of stopped playing on my phone. Like, you know, he's about to hang up. He's like, no, it's Jake.

Like, Jake Paul. And so they just went about that. I guess he's saying, like, my skill sets, you see big thing. Like, he feels like there's a, there'll be a great connection and bond with us. And I think, like, two weeks later, you know, I went to Puerto Rico to actually meet him. At first, we got on a call all together. And it was pretty cool right there. Then I went to Puerto Rico and, you know, just hung out with, like, the whole team.

It was pretty dope. It was, like, a few familiar faces there, so it was even better. Yeah. And, yeah, that's just how I went and came back. It's great to see what he's doing with the sport. Yeah, definitely. Really putting it on. It's definitely making a comeback for boxing, right,

because I feel like there was a moment there where UFC was kind of, like, tilting in favor of grabbing all the mainstream attention. And I feel like Jake and Logan have really brought a lot of attention back to boxing. Yeah, definitely. How has that helped you, right? Because it's bringing a lot more mainstream media attention to what's going on. Is it growing it for you also? Yeah, definitely.

It's also like we have a lot of influencer fighters come to the gym now. You know, it's just a lot of attention more so on me in the gym and everybody else that's coming up. And not a lot of people want to get into boxing, want to know more about it. So it's, you know, helping out for, like, the whole boxing community. So what type of diet are you on? Is there anything specific you eat? Honestly, I have a nutritionist.

So, like, I kind of just, I'm learning a bit, but I'm just kind of, like, you know, just following his footsteps. And, you know, he was telling me on the way, like, what, like, you know, my body doesn't digest this. You know, this is good for this time. Okay. So, it depends on my weight and how we go about things. So, but I still try to, like, you know, eat a good portion each day. So, like, you know, I'm not too dehydrated, like, when it comes to that point. Right.

Or, so I keep my, you know, my strength and muscles and everything else with it. Yeah. So, honestly, I have a diet where I'm, like, almost, like, losing a pound a day, a pound or two. What? Yeah. Dang. I mean, TR is pretty crazy, but it's not, like, you know. That's normal for you.

Yeah. Like, an unhealthy kind of fight, we kind of, like, lose, like, five a day, like, if we're trying to get there. Holy. So, what do you walk around at? I'll say like 55 okay yeah yeah wow and fight like 135 130 i try to i try to stay around like 45 so you lose 10 20 pounds before you have to fight yeah wow i try not to like that's the that's the thing about it but i feel like like naturally i was supposed to be like pretty big so okay yeah so it's kind of hard to like sustain that that weight have you ever gone to weigh-in and you were over so you couldn't fight no no yeah i always i always made weight yeah i feel that what's the worst weight cutting experience you've had um honestly there

was two so it wasn't bad like i'm like you know like it kind of comes with the job like you know sliding taking in a bad way but it just gets to the point where where you like you usually like so when you first start off like you kind of like fatter a bit so like you go for one run you lose about like four pounds three pounds and like you know you think that's gonna be a consistent rate but when you get closer to that weight, like it's kind of hard. It's harder, yeah. So you run like, all right, whatever you do for a long time, you only lose like half a pound or a pound, you know,

and that's like mentally like, you know. I feel that. Yeah. But this last camp, I kind of tried like an MMA style, like you know how they do like a few pounds the last few days and stuff like that and a certain technique where you don't dehydrate yourself yeah so i tried that it wasn't it wasn't bad but it was like like like it was like yeah it was like damn like you know you just i feel that you was kind of

already for it to be over with do you do a lot of sauna um kind of in the beginning i feel like the sauna kind of like dehydrates you a lot you know sure. Because I just, well, you know, water, yeah. So I try to stay away from that, but it's still good at the same time because Sana, we have like the infrared. Infrared, yeah. I love infrared sanas, bro. Have you been in one?

I haven't done an infrared. I mean, I do the normal sana almost every day, but I haven't done the infrared one yet. Dude. I need to get on that? Yeah. Okay. And infrared's good for your health overall.

I need more of that. I need more good for my health in my life. So yeah, that'd be awesome. Who's your like top boxers to watch? Like who's your favorite?

I grew up like watching Floyd. Floyd. So I would say Floyd. Have you met him yet? Yeah. That's dope. Like my first month into boxing. Him and Jake got beef though.

So whose side are you on there? Yeah, I'm on Jake's, you know. Definitely. I mean, but Floyd, he's hella cool. Like, when I was younger, like, my first month into boxing, him and his team, like, recognized me.

Oh, dope. Yeah, so I ended up going out there for one of his camp and just watching him train a few times. I've been out there a lot, honestly, when I was younger. So it was pretty dope to, you know, just be around the environment, see how've been out there a lot, honestly, when I was younger. So it was pretty dope to just be around the environment and see how the professionals are when I was younger. Yeah, he's the master of his craft, man. Yeah.

It's crazy. So if you could change weight classes for a day and fight anyone else in the world, who would it be? It can't be your weight class. Yeah, no. I would say my weight class, I feel like it's the best weight class honestly like you know all the names and big names but if i was to change the weight class uh honestly i mean i would say canel like like you know like wherever weight he's at because you know he's pretty a top dog but someone someone already beat him of course well too

but i feel like he's still like that that guy like the sport still so i feel like like wherever weight class i think it's like 160 something but i feel like that would be and he's like pretty much my height so i feel like it would be like a evenly match like you know like my height he's not my size of course he's bigger but you know yeah what age did you start boxing like um well inside the gym when i got to the gym was, like, seven and a half, eight. Whoa. But my dad had me, like, boxing at the house, like, three, three years old. Was your dad a boxer?

No. Oh, he just wanted you to be a boxer. Yeah, it was something that he always wanted to do. But my grandma would have let him, so. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so I feel like, in a way, I started to a little bit live his dream a bit. But then, like, you know, I had talent in the sport. So it was kind of like my dream started to, you know, come to that.

Would you ever go to, like, the UFC? Honestly, I think about it sometimes. You know, a lot of UFC comes over, you know, to boxing. So I think about it a bit. But I don't know. It's just like I'm not I'm not good with blood like I don't even like my opponent to have blood like that like once I start once they start bleeding like it's like yeah it's kind of like time to knock

them out cuz I don't like blood nothing to sweat nothing to get on me so yeah I feel that have you ever been knocked out in boxing no yeah yeah sparring nothing not even in sparring knocked like that's awesome knock down uh yeah okay yeah not hurt though i was like just you tripped up a little bit yeah yeah yeah i try to like uh switch my stance so like that's halfway going through i got knocked down yeah what's your style um i always tell people i'm like a mobile brawler like so yeah i'm not like you know too much of moving around like like around the ring. But like, I'm like right there

where I'm throwing punches, but like I'm like in the pocket of it. Right. Yeah. Wow. And then I switch stance too, so that's another like- Okay, so you could do multiple stances.

That throws people off. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like if you only have one stance, you'll eventually be predictable. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. For sure. So a lot of people nowadays like to say stupid shit one stance, you'll eventually be predictable. Yeah, definitely. For sure. So a lot of people nowadays like to say stupid shit, especially in public.

You as a professional fighter, have you ever had to just rein yourself in from, let's be honest, knocking someone out from saying something stupid in the bar, in the club, in the grocery store, whatever? I'm trying to think. Honestly, no. People always ask me questions. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I can't remember the clubs. Oh, yeah, I can't get in the clubs.

Yeah, but honestly, like, I never had problems with it growing up either. Like, I feel like, like, you know, some people like to test, like, other people out just to see, like, you know, if it's actually true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I always had, like, like, you know know people to actually vouch for like they saw like they saw what i did in the ring they saw like at a young age so i don't know what it is maybe like i have like good energy so it's probably not that yeah people test mcgregor but yeah he's like asking for it i think yeah like he's probably his energy is with yeah like he's drunk and he's doing and you do have amazing energy like you're on you're absolutely right

like you give off nice vibes like you're a nice person. You don't seem like you're looking for a fight, right? No, definitely not. Except in the ring. Would you say pro boxers make more money than UFC fighters? Definitely, definitely. I feel like, but not in the beginning, though, like the beginning stage of it.

No, I feel like UFCs get a good amount of check for their first few fights. But in the long run, definitely. Really really I thought it was the other way around nah because Jon Jones just made a bag right yeah and that's I feel like Ryan Ryan's kind of making that money without having a belt you know but is that because of his social media yeah that too okay but even like you know I mean UFC markets are I feel like they markets their fight a lot better like you know just a lot of UFC fighters, like, I mean, UFC markets are, I feel like they market their fighters a lot better. Like, you know, just a lot of UFC fighters are, like, boxers. Yeah, I like the UFC press conference more than boxing.

Yeah. Because I was watching Ryan's, and it wasn't, like, that entertaining compared to... Yeah, yeah. It's like, you want to see a little bit more. Yeah. Or you just want to see, like, you know, they have, like, other people talking for them a bit. Yeah, yeah. It's kind of like, yeah.

How much of that beef is manufactured versus real at the face-offs, right? I mean, you're trying to sell the pay-per-view. You're trying to raise awareness for the fight, all that stuff. I feel like all of it is, well, majority of it is real. Really? Yeah. Wow. I feel like a lot of it is real.

Like, you honestly, like, kind of meet with the stuff you say in the beginning until, like, after the fight. Like, I feel like a lot of people earn someone else's respect afterwards who are kind of like you know the beef just kind of just goes away for some reason you just earn a respect yeah yeah but like once you fight someone there's respect yeah yeah once you kind of get over with that's what it is like once you get over with it it's all right like you know if you win a fight do you get more money than the loser uh if that's in the contract, yeah. Yeah, but majority of times, yeah.

Interesting. Yeah. I feel like there's a lot of politics that goes into it, right? Like, you got to get your fight, you got to have the right promoter, you got to do all that stuff. Is it ever frustrating for you where you might feel like you're good enough or you're ready to do whatever, but the politics of the sport are holding you back?

Yeah, definitely. I mean, honestly, that's kind of how it is with boxing and that's um well i think jake intentionally wants to do when you enter the sport so um that's and that's a lot of boxes starting to you know get that awareness of it so a lot of people are trying to like you know um you know fix fix that part of boxing i mean it's something like you know like the the creed you thought the last creed is kind of like that like it's kind of that's kind of how boxing is a bit so creed was pretty accurate yeah pretty much yeah with like just the politics of all of it like you know it's really like like no way like someone could just kind of come in and go straight to that fight like that like you know it's really like people take their steps, but some people feel like they should have earned that spot.

But it's just like the politics behind it. It's kind of like NASCAR you're telling me about, right? Yeah, like if you don't have the right last name in racing, like you're not going to get to the top. That's crazy. Yeah. And I noticed with boxing, they like to build up the fighters. Yeah.

So they'll put them against easier opponents for a while. Yeah, yeah. Like you'll see like records that like make someone look like amazing. yeah. Like, you'll see, like, records that, like, make someone look, like, amazing. Yeah. And then getting the ring is, like, you know. Yeah, like, it's, like, a whole different, like, you, like, like, what I buy this for type of thing. Yeah.

So, yeah. So, some of them, I mean, I feel like that's, like, it's a good and a bad thing towards it. Like, you know, I feel like you can't always make someone, like, look good. Like, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, it's just, like, because when it gets to that point, like, you know, you're just kind of robbing people for their money. Yeah, there's no point at that point. I went to the first two Tyson Fury versus Wilder fights.

It's the only time I've ever been outnumbered by British people on American soil. I've been to one of them. Why is it so much bigger in other countries than the States? I went out there for, when I was in the amateurs. I think I was like 13, and it was big. I had, honestly, a huge crowd that I didn't know. In the U.K.? Yeah.

Boxing-wise, it was pretty big. Is it the biggest country, U.K., for boxing? Possibly. It's kind of crazy out there. They're diehard fans for boxing. Interesting. crazy out there like they like you know they're diehard fans for like boxing and like they're interesting people yeah like you see they'll travel like they would travel their ways to come and watch their firefight we wouldn't go that way you know no the stadiums they fill the numbers they the tickets they sell in the uk for fights is insane like they barely can sell you know 20,000

for crypto.com center or i forget the place where i saw the fight in vegas for wilder fury but like they're selling 100,000 tickets for a fight in the U.K. Wow. Do you think we'll ever get to that level in the States, or has UFC messed that up? Maybe. I feel like we'll see, like, I think after the Ryan and Tank, we'll see how that kind of goes. Like, if people start fighting each other and stuff like that. I just feel like everybody just know, like, on the U.S. side, like, they just know what their money is kind of worth like they're like this is really gonna be a good

fight this we really want to see like i was wondering why jake picked tommy but now that i hear this british market's huge that makes sense financially it's crazy what did you think of that fight especially like just the u.s and uk is always like a rivalry yeah but that fight um always feels like a pretty accurate accurate thing i'm like the, the most it could, could have done was a draw. Okay. But, um, I wasn't there to see like Jake's camp or anything like that,

you know, even though he said like his excuses, why, but you know, that's still like never reason. I, I fought in the UK, honestly,

with a flu. Oh yeah. Yeah. And I performed pretty well. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So,

um, I mean, of course you like, you don't want to like always, you know, come with excuses and stuff. There's always like a – if it's really that bad, it's to a point where you kind of pull out the fight.

And I feel like everybody would know the reasons and stuff like that, and you could postpone it, honestly. But if you kind of accept the fight, you're in the ring. Yeah, it's almost better not to – if you lose, just not to say any excuses. Yeah, because you accepted the fight. You went inside the fight with whatever you accepted. So yeah you just gotta accept the loss whatever comes with it i feel that walk me through the process when you sign a contract and you know you're gonna fight how long do you have to train and then how many hours a day are you training um honestly like

okay it's like different different um different ways so when i was uh first on the box um i wanted to like kind of build up or kind of like speed up my my career a bit so i was fighting like every other month okay so and then but we went down to mexico so it's kind of like mexico yeah so you have to pay you got well we came out of our pockets to like kind of pay for fights so like yeah so we kind of came out of our pockets to pay to get fights and stuff like that so okay um so yeah i think that we did that for like five fights and but we honestly we didn't have our promoter too that was our own like you know promotion company okay um and we went down there and we did that so that kind of like you know was kind of like put me up more in the rank as you could say to you know fight for you know a prospect spot like get you know probably contender

champion so doing that but as of right now like i kind of a lot of majority people want to wait um or have like the time of fighting to train a camp is like six weeks six weeks only about like six eight weeks got it some people do like four um four weeks yeah and then you're training seven days a week or you take a day off um i me personally uh five to six days five to six days yeah yeah wow how many hours a day i'd say like three to five but like broken up a bit yeah that's intense yeah and the other hours are basically you just resting to get back in the gym for the most part like I would say like three to five, but like broken up a bit. Yeah. That's intense. Yeah. And the other hours are basically you just resting to get back in the gym for the most part? It's not like you're out messing around during those nine hours.

No, no, yeah, yeah, yeah. For me personally, like I'm just like resting back, just enjoying my time, like, you know, off a little bit. Like it'll probably be like two weeks, maybe three. Enjoying my time off, just back with like family and stuff. I mean, i usually always have family with me but um like you know more i'm just like sitting back you know just enjoying the time with my family more than you know just in the gym consistent like you know every day all day you ever get insane anxiety before a fight no honestly no really no yeah that's never kind of been like you don't get anxious at all?

No, like, when I was young, my first amateur fight, I honestly went in a pool swimming before. Like, yeah, like, I didn't know, you know, no better, but I kind of just went in a pool. Like, it was in Vegas, so I went in a pool swimming. Wow. Like, yeah, my thing is always just, like, not trying to overwhelm myself. Not overthinking it.

Yeah, I feel like the anxiety comes from overthinking. Yeah, and that's it. Your performance, you look totally different from a training camp. I agree, because when we do a lot of public speaking, if I overthink it, I'll have a little bit of anxiety, but if I just go to it and show up and talk and just be normal, I don't get anything.

And that's honestly when it comes off the best also. Yeah, definitely. It just flows. We spoke about cryptocurrency at this panel yesterday, and I don't think either one of us really prepped, but then the panel went amazing, and it's just like, oh,. We spoke about, you know, cryptocurrency at this panel yesterday, and I don't think either one of us really prepped, but then the panel went amazing, and it's just like, oh, that's just what we do all day anyways. Yeah.

What is the worst part about being a professional boxer? I feel like the worst part is probably the cutting the weight. Yeah, honestly, yeah. Ten pounds. Yeah, that's probably the worst part. Like, you just. So you fast a lot? A bit.

Well, I try not to, but, like, the method I kind of grew up with was, like, that's probably the worst part. So you fast a lot? A bit. Well, I try not to, but the method I kind of grew up with was like that. That was my thing. Yeah. You know, just fasting a little bit, but not too much. I'm like the hydrant. They can know you still got a whole camp going through. But you probably just a little bit take a few meals off or cut the portions down.

Yeah, I feel that. I did a 24-hour fast and then I had a basketball game that night, dude. I felt weak. Really? Like, super weak. So I know what you mean, for sure. How many calories a day are you eating?

Do you know? Well, in the beginning of, like, camp, like, they try to get to, like, 3,000. Okay. Yeah. And we just start

kind of depending on my weight. Interesting. So who is the greatest boxer of all time? Ooh. I gotta say Floyd, honestly. Floyd, yeah. He hasn't lost. Yeah, he hasn't lost yeah he hasn't lost kind of broke

records you know kind of fought he fought a lot of top people i think he fought the most he beat canelo man yeah yeah yeah so tyson or ali who wins in a fight oh damn i honestly it depends what like what, like what, and then prime, prime errors. Yeah. Prime versus prime. I'd probably say Tyson. I'd take Tyson.

I'd take Tyson. That dude was scary, man. Even just watching the videos. I was scared of watching the videos. Yeah. Dude. Yeah.

It's scary. Yeah. Old videos, man. Do you know what your like body fat percent is? No, but last time I checked, it was like eight to 10, to ten yeah it's pretty lean

yeah that's very lean i wonder what most boxers are they're probably under 10 yeah when you when you add like that weight if you're finding like a your tip top shape you probably like five yeah like you know it is it gets kind of crazy yeah so what is when you're not fighting when you're not in training camp, but you're trying to stay obviously ready, what is that, what does your day-to-day routine look like? Are you, you're playing the game a little bit maybe, right? You're relaxing with your boys, but you're going to the gym, what,

five days a week? You're still kind of making sure your food intake is okay? Yeah, I try to still, but me, I still kind of just eat stuff that I'm, a little bit that, like, I'm craving. Like, I've been craving, like, the whole camp and stuff so i'm trying to get a little bit of that but yeah i give myself like a few days like all right like i'll give myself five or like seven days and you know i'll kind of get back but i feel like um for me it's like running is my best thing so like if i go for like a jog like every day i'll pretty much be around the same i wouldn't blow up so high like

you know yeah are you good at any other sports basketball football yeah we gotta run some basketball then i'm with it that's like that's always been my like number one sport oh hell yeah i love well i think boxing's your number one sport yeah i mean yeah that i'm best at yeah yeah but like i grew up just always want to be a basketball player like Basketball, you need height. Nah. You don't think so? Nah. I mean, it's easier, of course, but, nah, I'm like a Patrick Beverly and, like, Isaiah Thomas, Nate Robinson, everything like that.

Yeah, there's certain guys that can make it work. I mean, as the least athletic guy at the table, I would take a few extra inches of height. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah, if you're, like, kind of not really athletic, I feel like. But once again, I feel like your IQs and, you know, your mental game is really what kills it. You know Pat Bev averaged 40 a game in high school? Dude, I heard that.

I saw there was a Paul George podcast where they were talking about that. And, I mean, it's crazy. He's not a scorer. No. No, he's definitely not. Yeah. Did you play in high school or junior high or anything like that? No, I played a bit in junior high, I mean elementary,

but I was always like more and more I got older, like the more I got busy with boxing, like traveling and stuff. So, like I just wasn't ever there. I played football though, like, you know, my family and stuff. Running back. Oh, running back. Running back, yeah. Nice.

When I was younger, I used to play both sides of cornerback too, but again, like boxing kind of always took over. running back yeah um when i was younger i used to play both sides of cornerback too but nice again like your box kind of was always took over but those stiff arms came with a little extra punch behind them oh yeah yeah yeah yeah i put people down a few with that all right my man we gotta wrap this up any closing comments or where people can find you thank you thank you for watching um follow me on ig or everywhere at ashton silver hH2O. Sick. You heard it here, guys. Digital Social Hour. See you next week.