Digital Social Hour - Why Mentorship & Networking Are Game-Changers for Success | Jeffrey Mann DSH #1225

Episode Date: March 8, 2025

Why are mentorship and networking absolute game-changers for success? 🤝✨ In this episode of the Digital Social Hour, Sean Kelly sits down with Jeffrey Mann to uncover powerful insights into personal growth, building connections, and embracing authenticity in every aspect of life. From navigating the world of PR and social media to the transformative impact of surrounding yourself with the right people, this conversation is packed with valuable lessons you don’t want to miss.   🎙️ Jeffrey opens up about overcoming insecurities, the importance of building a "dream team" of mentors, and how traveling and stepping out of your comfort zone can shift your perspective. They also dive into the role of religion, embracing individuality, and turning challenges into opportunities for growth.   🚨 Whether you're looking to level up your career, strengthen your personal brand, or simply get inspired, this episode has something for everyone. Watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets! 📺 Don’t miss out—hit that subscribe button and join the conversation today! 🚀   CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Catching up with Jeff 00:40 - Why Jeff Stopped Dying His Hair 01:20 - Jeff's Religion and Fasting Practices 04:00 - Daily Caloric Burn: Jeff's Insights 05:20 - Jeff's Basketball Career Journey 07:20 - Competitive Spirit: Why Jeff Fights on the Court 08:57 - Most Nerve-Wracking Interview Experience 11:05 - Crisis Management Strategies 14:11 - Overcoming Recent Struggles 15:59 - Dealing with Emotional Trauma 16:15 - The Importance of Therapy 17:55 - Trying Alligator Cheesecake: A Unique Experience 20:10 - Where to Find Jeff Online APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [e-mail] GUEST: Jeffrey Mann  https://www.instagram.com/jeffreymann_ LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ #DigitalSocialHour #SeanKelly #Podcast #Mentorship #Networking #JeffreyMann #Success #PersonalGrowth #Inspiration #SubscribeNow #emailmarketing #socialmediamanager #socialmediamarketing #digitalmarketing #prinsights

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and going from a single person to a bunch of people on the talent roster, it's insane to see the different way that people are perceived on social media and the different way haters and people are reaching out and leaving messages. Cause our clients are from fitness to biohacking to business, to real estate, and it's all different worlds. All right guys, back with Jeffrey. We're in his side of the map now.

Welcome to Utah. We're out in Utah, baby. It's about to snow a foot tomorrow. Good luck. And you're gonna be gone. Yep, I'm going to Vegas. Warm weather, baby. You're going where I'm at.

Happy birthday, by the way. Thank you, I appreciate it. Anything change or no? I feel like an old man. Actually, I so this is the first year that I stopped dying my beard and my hair. Just let the grades come in. I said, just send it. I didn't even know you died. About two years now, I've been dying.

Oh, well, it takes a big person to admit that. All right. I feel like some people wouldn't take that to the grave. I wanted to. But honestly, I was like, why not? It's buying just for men every two weeks got annoying. So I'm like, let me just send it. Why were you dying it? Was it insecurity? I think insecurity and I was trying to look younger.

And then I got to a place in my life, in my career, I'm like, I am who I am. And so let's just live it that way. And so kind of stepped away from it. Wow. Was it a specific moment that kind of changed for you or was it just cumulation of events? I think just the different events, experiences and the people in my life, it's just,

they accept me for who I am. And so it doesn't matter if I need to look younger and also traveling outside of Utah, I think helped being around older people. Yeah. Cause sometimes you get in this bubble, right? Where you're living at. Yeah. So it's important to travel. You've been here a few times and you know the Utah bubble and how people. Yeah, cause sometimes you get in this bubble, right? Where you're living at. Yeah. So it's important to travel.

You've been here a few times and you know the Utah bubble and how people are. You got some cults out here. You got some wild stuff going on in Utah, man. You guys are wild. It's a whole different world out here. Yeah, yeah. I'm fascinated with the Mormon culture.

I'll say that. I know you're part of it, right? Yeah. And is that something you take seriously? It is. It's my it's my foundation for my principles and my beliefs and what I stand for. And I always tell people, you know, you have people in the religion who will say stuff that's false. And the thing is I follow the doctrine.

People get offended and they follow people. And that's where you run into problems. Cause people will always lead us astray. Yeah. I think there's a lot of benefits to it. And then I think there's always going to be those crazy groups and every religion has its downsides has its upsides. Yeah. How do you view other religions? You know, I've been a big believer and I have friends from all different walks of life and I love to look at different religions and take the good. Cause I feel like people get stuck in the one track.

This is my religion. So that's all I'm going to look at. Yeah. But we can take good from every religion. I mean, I look at someone who's Muslim. I don't know another group of people that are more dedicated to their religion and what they believe.

I mean, in the Mormon culture, we have once a month, we fast for a day or a half day. And then we donate the money, what it's spent on food to the church for other people to get meals. And then people struggle with that just a day. And I look at the length of what Muslims fast and I'm like, we're not that low of dedication whatsoever.

Cause they fast for days, right? Three days on the weekends. And they continue with their activities and working and everything. And I'm like, mentally, I don't know if I could even do that. Yeah. Kari Irving still hooping while fast. That's not easy, man. I tried once. That's insane. Really? I felt so weak. How long did you fast for? Dude, not even a lot. That's not easy, man. I tried once. That's insane. Really? I felt so weak. How long did you fast for?

Dude, not even a lot. That's, that's the crazy part. It was like a day. Okay. And I played that night. I felt so weak. I had to leave the game. I had to check out.

You're fricking nuts. I mean, your body, I mean, when, when you have a job where you're thinking all day, you're actually burning hell of calories. Yeah. And I just found out my resting metabolic rate is 2,900 calories. Okay. So that's if I did nothing all day, but for me, I'm playing chess all day. I'm thinking all day. I'm podcasting all day. I'm probably burning 4,000 calories a day. So how do you, if I can ask you, how do you balance your meal schedule then? I don't, you know, cause I'm working all day. I

barely eat. It's time to hire a chef. I know. Yeah. I've always been super skinny, underweight. eat. It's time to hire a chef. I know. Yeah, I've always been super skinny, underweight. Um, my metabolism is slowing now with age, so I don't look as skinny as I used to. I'll show you some old photos. We'll throw some up. I was like 140 pounds. Well, and people who just see your videos and don't see you in pictures, don't realize how tall you are. Yeah, I get that all the time. Six, six, man. Yeah. Yeah. I can't wait to ball with you too. Let me know when I'm down this trip. Okay.

Sunday. Do you play Sunday? I'll be gone. What are you being? What about early? You do early morning tomorrow early morning tomorrow? I film at 11 So how early we talking 6 a.m. 6 a.m. Bro, I Think your camera crew Makes an hour away if it was closer. What if I get a group up here? Yeah, I'll do it up here Okay. Yeah, okay up here? Yeah, I'll do it up here. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Up here in the foot of snow.

We're driving up in trucks, I can tell you that. It's funny, I have a buddy who lives here who collects sports cars. And one day we were playing basketball and he's like, hey, come pick me up. I was in my truck at the time. I can't get my car out of the driveway. So we play basketball, drop him off. Later that afternoon, he sends me a picture. He bought a...

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The Ford Raptor, just to get the basketball. No. Yeah. That's who your friends are. Yeah, he's about that life. Elevate your circle guys. That's so true. Get you some friends that could just buy a car on the spot. I was shocked, but hey, ball is life for some people. You know how that goes.

No, it is life. I don't know if I'd spend 120 K yet to just get the ball, but basketball games are like I play in a league. It's, I look forward to that more than almost anything. I've seen your highlights. Yeah. I just had a new career high two nights ago. What'd you get? 27 and nine. Okay. Yes, sir How many fouls you get though? That's the real question, dude. Not many I made all my free throws and I only fouled once or twice. Okay. Yeah, how many games have you been thrown out of? None none. How many have you been thrown out of? Oh, I don't I don't play league

Because they're gonna be kicking me out every year. You're a high head on the court. Oh, yeah. Do you do you initiate it? My problem is I said a screen they run into me because I'm stronger than them. It's like I initiated it, but I, I consider myself, this can sound awful. The PJ Tucker of the teams. Let me sit in the corner. Let me sit in threes. Let me set some screens and let me break a bunch of balls. So you're the defender too, then because he could play D.

Yeah. Are your screens moving screens? Cause that's why people get pissed. No, it's like fast break. I'm sitting there and no one says anything to the guy. They run straight into my chest. Those hurt. Yeah, but no one tells you that if it's my buddy, I'll be like screen, screen, screen, screen, screen, because I don't want to hurt. I always call out.

Really? If it's a stranger, I could care less. I mean, bro and league I call out picks because you could get hurt running into someone like you. Oh, yeah, if you're going full speed, that's like a, you're getting the wind knocked out. You type. But then I blame the teammates. I'm like, you guys should be helping be his eyes and call it out. That's true. So then some people get up and try to scrap with you.

Has that happened? I've had one person try and fight me and I give them props and stuff, but usually it's just yelling back and forth and then it cools off. And then the nice thing is, you know, once the game's over, it's over with nothing carries off the court. Not Vegas. Really? Dude, there's this, uh, they play at this gym called Tarkanian and every time

there's a fight like literally every, every day, and it takes it off court to next time I'm in Vegas and you're there, let's go. I'm not going. Let's go. This is a watch. Let me hoop. I, if you want to do it, be my guess. So you're looking for some chance. We's go. I'm not going. Let's go. Let's go watch. I'm not even watch. Let me hoop. I if you want to do it, be my guess. So you're looking for some chance. We'll go play.

Well, we'll start some. You're looking for some heat. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. If it's not my hometown, I'm done. All right. Why do you think that way, though? Because I don't know anybody. So I'm more comfortable whereas here it's like, it's a small town. It knows me small town.

Also, I'm in Utah. It's not a lot of black people, so I do get in the fight, everyone knows it was Jeff. Yeah, so for me it's easier to, if I'm somewhere else. Yeah, you stand out here for sure. What's that like, like being one of the few black people? It used to annoy me, but I found that it actually helps me

because I know most rooms I walk into, I look different than every other person. So everyone in that room is going to remember me. Number two, I think it gives me a chance to connect with people because there's people who are either a, Hey, I want a black friend or B this guy is someone I'm not used to. Let me get to know him. And so for me, I took something that annoyed me and was a pet peeve.

And I've turned into how can I use this to further my career? And get in more rooms. So you use it to your advantage rather than having a victim mentality as well Yeah, yeah, and I'll be honest if I'm being you know walls down I've had that victim mentality for a long time and sometimes I still do but I have to remind myself that you know God created us how we're meant to be and so I need to lean into that. Yeah I mean, I think it's normal to think that way I had imposter syndrome for the longest, you know, God created us how we're meant to be. And so I need to lean into that. Yeah. I mean, I think it's normal to think that way. I had imposter syndrome for the longest, you know? Even in certain rooms now, I still feel it

depending on who's in the room. Like, I feel like it's just always there. But you gotta be mentally aware of it. But I've seen you in plenty of rooms where you hold your own. I mean, we were at a party with Don Jr. and just held a conversation. I've gotten better and that's partially due to the podcast.

It's increased my social confidence. I used to not be able to talk like when I went to events. I used to be so nervous and scared. Who was, of all the guests that you've interviewed, what is your most nerve wracking interview that you've done? The most nervous I've been, Grant Cardone's up there. Just because of his persona. He's a total alpha.

Yeah. Oh yeah. Go-getter and he's a type that will call you out on shit. So that one, I was a little nervous. Howie Mandel, I was kind of nervous because he's like considered an A-list celebrity. Yeah. Trump Jr. I wasn't too nervous just because we met at Utah actually. Yeah, that's the thing is.

I actually, and thanks to that event is why he came on. You know, he's only done one other podcast. Oh really? Yeah, Nelk Boys. That's it. That's interesting. Just that one. And he's gone on a couple like new stations, but that's it. So thanks. Shout out to Keaton for throwing that event.

Yeah. Oh, that was a major event. Yeah. There was some heavy hitters there, man. Yeah. That party was definitely worth it. And even, you know, people were like, I don't know if I want to pay the money. I'm like, that was one, if you're going to pay the money, that's one I would do it. That would be the best 10K ever spent, in my opinion.

Yeah, because a lot of those guys hold their own masterminds and parties and stuff, and it's like a hundred grand plus. I just got invited to Necker Island. It's like 50K just to go, plus you got to pay for all the flights, hotels and everything. So that would be like a 70K trip. Yeah, one of the guys did an event at Andy Elliot's place in Arizona paid half a million She could do the event there and have Andy speak

Holy crap, and I'm like guys you got two three hours with Andy and his whole team to talk connect whatever only 10k Mmm. Yeah, Andy. He's been getting a lot of heat. Have you seen that? Yeah, what do you think of that? I Think it's the game of social media. Um, I know ball busters went after him and they had their back and forth. But if I'm being honest and you know this, every single person at that level has baggage. They all have dirt. Um, my thing is when you lean into it, don't lie about it, accept it, be honest with it. You can pivot the conversation,

but when you keep denying stuff and they keep revealing faxes, that's where it hurts you facts And it's usually the response that makes it worse, right? Mm-hmm. I agree I think the initial video obviously causes some heat but then it's how they respond to it Yeah, that kind of determines how much of a cancellation it will be. Yeah, and that's why I tell people if you don't have a PR person That was such a good segue into what you do. I love it dude. Yeah you do PR for Chris obviously and there's obviously a lot of PR needed for that because he's got haters, he's got wild people coming out. His followers were insane. You know and it's been interesting because I did PR for Chris for several years and then I joined a new company called one DS and going from a single person to a bunch of people on the talent roster, it's insane to see the

different way that people are perceived on social media and the different way haters and people are reaching out and leaving messages and cause our clients are from, you know, fitness to biohacking to business, um, to real estate. And it's all different worlds. And so everyone's PR strategy is going to have to be different and you have to navigate those waters. Yeah. So would you say you're more in the crisis PR or are you more preventative or both?

I think it depends on the need of the individual, but also what's happening in the world. Like PR during the pandemic was crisis management. Right. Coming out of the pandemic, it was now, how do we rebuild brands or how do we help brands that either went under? How do we reshape them? How do we pivot so they can still be successful? And so depending on what's happening in the world is kind of where PR fits in. You seem to be good at like calming the situation, you know?

I think it takes a different voice. And the thing that I've learned is some guys are going to hate you because like I work here with Chris Chrome, there are some videos I had him take down because I'm like, this doesn't fit the message, the brand, the image. And he wanted it up. But my job is to be that objective voice and say, hey, as your PR guy, this is not a video you should put up. Here's the reasons why. And I'm willing to fall on the sword for that because that's what my job is. Yeah, it's a tricky game on social media like what you should and shouldn't post, right?

Yeah. I've, I tried it with the podcast. I try not to edit it, dude. I'd, unless the guests request it. Yeah. And then I let the viewers decide, but some of my guests have gotten a lot of hate. Yeah. Do you, do you try and do more clickbait stuff or you just let it? It's a game. So I'm not going to sit here and lie and say I don't do clickbait stuff or you just let it? It's a game. So I'm not gonna sit here and lie and say, I don't do clickbait stuff. Cause that'd be just a flat out lie. But like you gotta play the game. I want to provide value, but at the same time you need views

to get sponsors and everything. So yeah, I'll ask like provocative questions for sure. Well, and I love that because anyone who does research and you understand the law of polarity. It teaches us that every negative has a positive, every positive has a negative. And so when someone's on an interview and they're trying to make everything positive, it's like the way the universe works, there is negative in your life.

Right. Just share both. There's no reason to hide behind anything because we all know that we're humans. We all have flaws. And I feel like audiences tune in more when you're authentic and you show both sides. Agreed. Yeah. Those are the interviews you can't trust when it's just all softball questions

and positive answers and you can see it scripted and they're just life is great. Yeah.. Yeah, those are the interviews you can't trust when it's just all softball questions and positive answers. And you can see it scripted and they're just throwing it. Yeah, life is great. Uh-huh. Yeah, no one likes those anymore. No. Yeah, I want to hear how you got to where you're at and the hardest things you had to go through to get there.

Yeah, because people are going through stuff and they want to listen to someone who's relatable. And, hey, I relate to this person, now I'm going to listen to the interview, now I'm going to follow this person on Instagram because they are going through the same struggles that I am. Facts. Any I'm going to listen to the interview. Now I'm going to follow this person on Instagram because they are going to the same struggles that I am. Facts.

Any big struggles you've went through recently? You know, I've been working on, um, kind of lowering my walls and being, I guess, more open with people. Um, it's interesting. I'm in a space when I'm working and I'm around influencers and celebrities, I'm super comfortable. Like I can have conversations and stuff, but when I'm in like everyday people, like my friend group, those I'm around. I don't relate the same.

I'm not in business mode. Yeah. And so I either tend to be super quiet or I'm working on my phone and stuff. And so this year, one of my goals for this year is to be present, to be where my feet are and have intention in my conversations. And when I'm trying to connect with people. Dude, that's so relatable. We got to talk about this. Yeah, for sure.

Cause I have the same thing. Yeah. It's so weird. Like on a podcast, I'll be so open and then I'll get home. My girl will ask me on my day was and I'm just like mute. You know, it's kind of disrespectful to her, but yeah, I want to work on that for sure. Okay. Yeah.

Even with my friends too, like my closest friends, I won't cry in front of them. I won't fully open up, you know? Oh, that's me. I can't remember the last time. Actually the first time a group of my friends saw me cry, we're playing basketball two weeks ago and my buddy checked the basketball hit me right in the nuts and he threw it as hard as possible, not on purpose, but that was the first time they all saw me cry.

I don't know if that counts because that's a physical injury. I'm talking about if you know the pain I was experiencing. It was not bad. Yeah, damn. Oh, yeah, that sucks. But no, I just like for my wedding, I was giving out my best man groomsmen boxes and I was just like, I should have been more vulnerable with my guys. They were all crying and I wasn't. You know, I was and I had four guys, they all teared up a bit or cried. And I was looking

away. I was like trying to avoid the contact. I think it's some trauma. Why is that? It's some emotional trauma from growing up I think. Okay. My parents got divorced. Dad had bipolar disorder. So if I said a certain thing I would get yelled at. Okay. So that caused me to suppress my emotions. And my mom was also pretty abusive verbally too. So I think I was just scared to express emotions for a lot of my life. With your, you've had, you know, thousands of guests on, have you found anyone that you've interviewed that is like someone you can work with and dive into that trauma? Yeah, for sure. Yeah. But I'm, I have a weird take on therapy.

I'm not a big fan on therapy. So if I were to do some sort of work like that, it'd be more on a spiritual level. It wouldn't be talk therapy. Yeah. I think talk therapy is good, but I think there's better. And you know, there's not a one fits all for every person. Yeah. Everyone has something that they lean into. I mean, I have a personal trainer. I have a spiritual coach. I have a life coach. Um, they all teach me different things. I love trainer. I have a spiritual coach. I have a life coach. They all teach me different things. I love that.

I work with the human behavior specialists and it's what I need. I call it my dream team, but it's what I need for me. Now the next person may not need these individuals or even jail with them. And so, you know, you take that road to find the right person and who works with you. And then when you find your dream team, it's amazing.

Yeah, yeah. I got mentors in all sorts of verticals too. They're important. I got a basketball one, got Ariel cooking mentor, got someone from movies and TV show recommendations, got business mentors, all sorts of, you know, Pfizer's. You can't just have a one fit all in my opinion. No, not, not in the way this world operates. It's hard to be an expert in many things at the same time. Yeah. Like only Elon can do that. Those who say they're expert in everything,

like how much do you really know? Yeah. And how much you're just YouTubing? Jack of all trades, right? Yeah. Yeah, it's almost like a negative connotation these days to call yourself that. Oh, yeah.

Because I look at how much I put into one business, and I'm still not even at the top. It's like, how can you do that in five at the same time? Yeah, you can't. You realistically there's no way that you can invest that much time and effort into five different things. Yeah so we're gonna use some alligator and sausage cheesecake after this? Dog. New Orleans has the best food. You know we when I first landed my buddy's like let's go to this restaurant and I saw it on the menu and I'm like, okay, alligator and sausage, cheesecake.

Let's see what it's like. And it wasn't, I was thinking in my head, cheesesteak texture, it's like a dessert, it's gonna be sweet, but it's not, it was savory. It's like a quiche, like a breakfast quiche. But it was just amazing. Just the flavors are different. Especially living in Utah, going out to other states,

just the flavors, the food, the culture, it's amazing. And I, you know, going out to other states, just the flavors, the food, the culture, it's amazing. And I, you know, I'm like alligator, but let's lean in and let's try it. And I loved it. I love how open you are because you could tell a lot about someone when you go out to eat with them and like how they order, what they order. And some people just get the same thing every time. And, you know, to each their own, but I want to live my life. Yeah. Well, and I, you know, for me, It's fun is with my job. I'm able to travel and go different places and try different foods It's one of the thing I'm like if I'm in the city, why not try something from the city, right?

And it's been a journey to do that and I found some amazing places, but you also find some terrible on the same box Yeah, yeah, we'll see how we do tonight You were honest with me and you said Salt Lake's not known for food So the bar is not super high for me, but I'm still a little excited. Well that place we went last time We were here. We got was the crab. We got the mac and cheese in Salt Lake. We went there in Limitless Yeah, so there are some decent places, but it's you know, you got to find them. The breakfast spot we hit was was okay So so yeah, I know my friend owns it and all but it was okay. I just being honest Yeah, I know my friend owns it and all, but it was okay, just being honest. Yeah, you know.

I'm honest. That's what it is, yeah. And that's why I stopped doing food reviews actually in Vegas, because Vegas is a small world. So you were too honest? People were talking behind the scenes, yeah. Had some restaurants try to blackball me and stuff.

Really? They think a seven-seven is low. Interesting. Could be worse. I mean, yeah, it could be worse, but I don't want to like not be able to go out in my own city. Yeah. So I call it quits out there episode 12, but I really liked doing food reviews. It was fun. Yeah.

Food is maybe you'll get back to it. I like how poor no, I does it. You know, Dave Bornoi with the pizza reviews. Yeah. Yeah. Cause he can travel and stuff. So it doesn't even matter if you could do it when you're filming in different cities yeah stop and do a food review. Well dude it's been awesome work people find what you're looking for. Just on Instagram just look up Jeffrey Mann or check out 1dscollective.com we're doing some crazy things exciting it's the game of social media continues to pivot and to grow and there's a million ways to make money.

You look recently, TikTok went down for a day and I'm like, there's tons of other platforms if you know what to do and how to hack the system. And so get with a team, get with a management company, something to help you. Because there's strategies that you may not think of as individual. And when you have that guidance and that strategy, it changes the way you can attack the game. So link yourself below. Thanks for coming on again. Awesome, thank you brother. I appreciate it. Sure, see you guys.

See ya.