Digital Social Hour - Why Modern Professionals Need Meditation to Succeed | Emily Fletcher DSH #1165

Episode Date: February 6, 2025

Are you ready to unlock the secret weapon for modern professionals? In this insightful episode of the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly, we dive into why meditation is the ultimate game-changer for success. Join Sean and special guest Emily Fletcher as they break down the science behind stress, share how meditation boosts creativity, improves sleep, and even enhances relationships (yes, including your sex life! ).   Learn how just 15 minutes a day can reverse your body’s age, supercharge your energy, and transform your mindset. Emily also shares her incredible journey from Broadway performer to meditation expert and reveals how Ziva Meditation can help YOU thrive in today’s fast-paced world.    This episode is packed with valuable insights, real-life examples, and actionable tips to tap into your full potential. Don’t miss out—your future self will thank you!    Watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets. Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more eye-opening stories on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly!   #holisticsexualhealth #erectiledysfunction #mentalhealth #sexualwellness #mindfulness   #selfimprovement #anxiety #mentalhealth #breathingexercises #mindfulness   CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:28 - Stress and Sex 01:40 - Stress Medication 04:17 - Unfelt Feelings 06:47 - Emily’s Psychedelic Experiences 08:55 - Activating DNA Memory 10:46 - Emily’s Egypt Trip 11:39 - Emily’s Insomnia 15:10 - Meditation and Sex 20:06 - Manifesting Techniques 23:13 - Toxic Positivity Issues 24:53 - Feel Good, Get Good 26:40 - Misconceptions about Meditation 30:25 - Increasing Meditation Practice 32:50 - Spiritual Recovery Journey 35:00 - Sexual Energy Exploration 37:10 - Adapting to Change 38:05 - Next Retreat Plans 39:59 - Advanced Technology Insights 42:50 - Dancing to Clear Energy 44:28 - Truth vs. Love Vibration 46:11 - What's Next for Emily   APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [e-mail]   GUEST: Emily Fletcher https://www.instagram.com/emilystellafletcher/ https://linktr.ee/zivameditation https://linktr.ee/zivameditation   SPONSORS: Specialized Recruiting Group: https://www.srgpros.com/   LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/

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If men's cortisol levels are too high and also their adrenaline levels are too high, they become physically incapable of having an erection. Because adrenaline is trying to keep that blood everywhere else in the body. cortisol levels are too high and also their adrenaline levels are too high they become physically incapable of having an erection. Wow. Because adrenaline is trying to keep that blood everywhere else in the body. You gotta outrun a tiger, you can't afford to have an erection. Alright guys, got Emily here. We're gonna talk Ziva Magic here today. Yeah, we are. Just did a wonderful breathwork session.

Mmm. I feel good. Good. Thanks for doing that for me. Yeah. My pleasure. Yeah. Breath work is powerful. Wim Hof is my first kind of oray into it. What I love about Wim is that he managed to make his name a verb about breathing. Talk about branding expert. Yeah, he's definitely done it. Yeah. Were you doing breath work before

him or? Yeah, I mean, I'd say probably 15, 16 years. Wow. Yeah. Meditating every day, twice a day for 16 years. Whoa. Twice a day. Twice a day.

That's what we do at Ziva. That's impressive. Thanks. Are they long sessions? 22 minutes for me, but what I teach in our online training is 15 minutes, twice a day. You can do a lot in 15 minutes, twice a day. Yeah, it's digestible. Yeah. People think they don't have time, but it's like, let me see your phone. Like, let me see how many minutes you spend on social media a day. You can do a lot in 15 minutes twice a day. Yeah, it's digestible. Yeah, people think they don't have time.

It's like, let me see your phone. Like, let me see how many minutes you spend on social media a day. And you probably could fit in an extra 15. Oh, yeah. Because then you're smarter, you're faster, you're more creative. You sleep better. Your decision making is better. Sex drive is better. It's like actually the stress is making us stupid, sick and slow.

And so we don't realize the opportunity cost of not recharging, of not plugging in, of not like, you know, bathing your brain, if you will. Yeah, I'm very aware of the danger of stress these days. But when I was younger, I was a workaholic. I still am, but now I'm just aware of if I'm too stressed. He says on his seventh podcast of the day, I used to be a workaholic. But before, I would just let it compound and not address it. But these days, I'll have techniques to kind of de-stress, you know.

And how's that been for you? Like now that you're utilizing techniques for stress? It's helped a lot. Yeah? In what way? Because before I would... Well, I'm not on medication anymore. Okay. Oh, that's great.

I was on Xanax before. Okay. And just relying on that. I had no holistic techniques. Yeah, people have called Ziva nature's Xanax, and I really love that. Yeah, it feels like a big compliment. That is a great compliment.

Yeah, because the whole deal is like nature has installed inside of us this internal pharmacy of medicine, right? And anything that we would take exogenously is working on some sort of intone receptors. You know, if you put LSD into the brain of a lizard, it does not trip because it doesn't make that particular like God chemical. Wow.

I never knew that. And so there's a reason why the things that we take impact us is because there is some receptor in our brain that we could do internally. So that it's like if you can get high on your own supply, let me let's start there. Look, I'm a big fan of psychedelics as well. I'm a big fan of using tools when they are helpful. But I think they're just gonna be more impactful if you know how to do it yourself.

Absolutely. I'm big on psychedelics and learning about the biohacking space, I know how powerful the body is now at healing. Before, I think there's a lot of programming. I'm like, just take a quick pill. Growing up, that's what I thought, to heal yourself. Well, it's the same kind of divorcing

from our healing potential as we divorce ourselves from our divinity. Right? It's like we forget that we're so creative. We forget that we're so powerful and that's been done on purpose. Right? If people stand to gain from you forgetting, you know, that you could actually plug in directly to source yourself, that you could actually heal yourself, then you're going

to be, you know, people are incentivized to help you forget that. Yeah. Yeah. Instead, we're taught a quick pill. I remember playing soccer. If I was sore, I would take Advil after the game and that was normal. I used to do that on Broadway, you know, because you're dancing eight shows a week, six days a week and your feet are swollen and your legs are hurting, but you got to do two more shows today. And so sometimes you're like, okay, I'm going to take the Advil.

Crazy. Yeah. But I used to ice my feet. I remember when I first learned to meditate, I asked my teacher, I said, Hey, can I meditate while I ice my feet? He was like, no, no, you cannot. That's funny. Yeah, I was so relying on those. And I took like 10 years off.

I just had to take one last week and I was dreading it. 10 years off of Advil? Yeah. Okay, that's pretty good. Yeah, I was dreading it. My back locked up and it hurts so bad. I'm sorry. But I do not try to rely on those anymore.

I can give you, because I used to have really intense back pain and two things that have really helped me. One, and I don't know what your issue is, but there's just some pillows that have helped, just my structure. Really? The other thing is that I'm really starting to believe that a lot of our pain, not all of it, but a lot of our pain is unfelt feelings. We just have like uncried tears in our back.

We have unexpressed emotions in our inflammation. And there's a Lakota elder, Doug Goodfeather, who says that. The intensity of the suffering on the planet right now is caused by thousands of years of uncried tears. Wow. Yeah. And it's, it's a fascinating thing to think about. I'm not going to say if that's true or not, but I think it's interesting to hypothesize about

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feel their feelings, how to like go into the darkness and metabolize it and alchemize it so that you can make space for more joy, more pleasure, more light. And I think if we're not willing to go into and alchemize the darkness, we're not gonna have the spaciousness or the capacity that is available to us to start to vibrate at the frequency of our dreams, which is what manifesting is. I can see that, yeah. It's important to embrace feelings.

I used to suppress them. Yeah, I think we all do to some degree to survive. And what I've found is that the braver you are to go into the darkness, just the more rich life becomes. Mm. Is that what drew you to psychedelics? Hmm. I mean, let's be serious.

I've been doing them recreationally for... They're fun. I've been doing them recreationally for like over 20 years. But it hasn't... But it's been more therapeutic and medicinal in the past maybe 10 years? Love the honesty. I'm the same way. Yeah.

I did them in college just, you know, being degenerate at the time. I wouldn't call myself a degenerate. My best friend and I, we were known as the Roller Queens because we would throw like amazing MDMA parties. Whoa. Between the two of us, we had like 22 Broadway shows and I went back to my college and I was thinking like, oh, they're going to be so impressed with my Broadway resume. And they're like, hey, Emily Fletcher, you're the roller queen, right?

I was like, oh, no, that's hilarious. I have the wrong legacy here. But now, so last summer, my best friend, Laila and I went to on this priestess pilgrimage to Greece. Oh, we went to Eleusis and Crete and Delphi to these places where these women and priestesses were serving medicine for thousands and thousands of years. And it woke something up inside of me and I had this remembering. I was like, oh, I've been doing this for a very long time. And, you know, yes, there's certainly the like hedonistic side of MDMA, but there's also like it is the love particle. Like it's remember it's you remembering your capacity for love.

And so, I mean, there's,'s you know every coin has two sides and so I really It changed the way I think any shame that I had around psychedelics or any old programming got Integrated on that trip because I realized that we used to have whole temples built to it We stuff whole stadiums built around this you know the Kings and the generals used to go to the women to it, you have whole stadiums built around this. You know, the kings and the generals used to go to the women for advisement. And oftentimes those women were on either, they were doing fertility rituals or psychedelic rituals. And so they were like plugged into the divine. And I think that we've lost that in this society

because it's become not only male, but also hyper masculine. And so it's like, we're missing this balance of masculine and feminine that used to exist in many civilizations, Greek, Roman. And for thousands of years this would go on. So it's exciting to see some level of people tuning into nature through plants. Yeah, that is exciting. It's funny how certain locations will activate that hidden DNA memory, right?

Certain locations? Like when you go somewhere, you feel like deja vu or you feel like you belong here. Yeah, I just went to Egypt last December with Robert Edward Grant and a lot of our folks and in those pyramids boy like I know she had a pyramid here and I have this big dream of doing these activations at the pyramids and the sacred sites on the on the planet yeah and bringing people into very high states of consciousness into even ecstatic orgasmic states and holding a shared vision for the species. Because I think that those those pyramids are, I mean, they're built to conduct energy, right? Like you have one right on this desk. Yeah.

And so it's like, what would happen if we had, you know, thousands of people holding a shared vision for the species in coherence with themselves and each other, and then dedicating that energy to the dream? Wow. Cool experiment. Yeah. Can't wait to try that out. Yeah. Can't wait till you try that out. Yeah. There have been people that do like these large group meditations, right?

And the energy is just noticeable. Yes. I mean, I used to feel it in my studio at Ziva in New York City, we would get, you know, a few hundred people meditating and one person meditating is amazing. You get a hundred people meditating at the same time. And it's just like the consciousness goes, like the whole collective consciousness drops. And the analogy here is that if you imagine that we're all sharing a field, which we are, one person meditating is like one bowling ball on the trampoline.

A hundred people meditating is like a hundred bowling balls on the trampoline. So the field just bends. So if your body wants a deep dive, if the body wants to have that deep rest, it will fall into it more easily. And that's just with meditation, right? Now imagine like an energetic activation at a place where these, where these pyramids, which are built potentially originally for conducting energy and also on the lay lines of the planet.

So specifically in Cairo, that pyramid is on the throat chakra of the planet. Um, there's other chakra points on, on the globe as well. But it's, uh, I can't wait to go to Egypt one day. And Robert Edward Grant is the most fascinating man I've ever met, I think. I love him so much. He's aging backwards. He is aging backwards. He is.

He just sent me a video. I was like, wait, Robert, can we talk about how you're getting hotter? At this moment, I was actually setting up an altar and I was putting the pyramid on the altar for the ceremony. And he sends me a video of him in hypnosis talking about how he was like instrumental in building the pyramids, which is wild. And this is gonna sound very crazy,

but the first night I ever met Robert, I walked up to him and I was like, Robert, hi, I'm Emily Fletcher. My friend just came out of a medicine ceremony and she said that I was one of the non-humans that helped the Egyptians build the pyramids. And of course, I think this is like a crazy thing to say to someone because it is, it sounds insane. And Robert was like, oh, of course, that means you're Arcturian.

And like, I discovered this thing and it was Alpha Chi Omega. And that's on the ship. And I was like, I love you already. And so we've had that in common. And then I was reading a book about the building of the pyramids. Just when they got to the sound frequency part of it, I get a text from Robert saying, Hey, I'd love for you to join me in Egypt in December. That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. When he came on the show, I was baffled. And then afterwards, I texted him, yo, I just did some past life therapy and learn about my lineage. He's like,

I already knew about it. Tell me something I don't know. That dude's different. He's different. and she's like, oh, I already knew about it. I was like, what? Tell me something I don't know. That dude's different. He's different. Oh, for real, I think he had some gray hair when I filmed with him, and then I saw him like two years later,

and he looked like 20 years younger. Well, that happened to me when I learned to meditate. I was going gray at 26 years old. I had insomnia, couldn't sleep through the night for 18 months. I was going gray at 26. I was getting sick and injured. I'm on Broadway living my dream.

I learned to meditate on the first day of my first class. I slept through the night for the first time in 18 months. I accessed a different state of consciousness than I had ever been in, I stopped going gray, I didn't get sick for eight and a half years. I feel like I am in better shape now and look better now than I did even in my thirties. And so it's just like, it's a fun game to see like what happens to the human body when you are setting it up for success and not constantly pickling it with adrenaline and cortisol, which are acidic in nature. That's fascinating. I never thought it could help with sleep.

Oh my God. It's like 90% of our students are like, oh yeah, my insomnia is gone. Whoa. Yeah. A lot of people can't sleep at night. I know. I think it was just my team just this week was like, Emily, this is our 10x idea. Like we've really got to like let people understand because it is like magic.

I mean, I had debilitating insomnia. I was having nightmares that I was being possessed by the devil. And on the first day of my first meditation class, I slept through the night for the first time in 18 months and I have every night since. That was 16 years ago. Those are some interesting dreams you're having.

I know. I think there's a lot of meaning in dreams. You might have to look into that. Well, the thing is I haven't had that dream again for 16 years. I think it was just stress trying to leave my body. Yeah. You were really stressed when you were 26. Well, I was on Broadway

and I was understudying three of the lead roles. What does understudy mean? It means that you show up to the theater and you have no idea which character you're gonna play. What? And they can just switch you from one to the other, or you could just be chilling in your dressing room, having a snack, and then someone's like,

I'm like Fletcher, we need you on stage. And so it's very, it's like this constant fight or flight, even if you're not on stage. Wow, I didn't know Broadway operated like that. I thought everyone knew their role. Well they do, but imagine if the lead breaks their ankle. Imagine if the lead gets sick, you know? You gotta know everyone's lines.

Well, you gotta know the people that you understudy these lines. So I understudied three of the leads. And that's a lot of lines. And also a lot of choreography, a lot of different harmonies, a lot of it's. Yeah, that's stressful. So you find out that wasn't your path.

Well, I honestly, when I learned to meditate, I was just doing it to be better at that. And it did. It made me a much better performer. Not just from the stress, but also just like spiritually. I think if you don't have a way to plug yourself in, if you don't have a way to fill yourself up with fulfillment, then of course you're going to look for that fulfillment externally, right? Like maybe this boyfriend, maybe this zero in the bank account, maybe this next job, then I'll be happy. But with meditation, you're flooding your own brain and body with dopamine and serotonin. You're like actually getting high on your own supply.

And then you can see those things as opportunities to deliver your fulfillment versus where you need to go to fill yourself up. And so that shift, it gives you this level of detachment, gives you this level of like leaning back, which is sexy. It's attractive. It's magnetic. Yeah. Versus like, please date me. Please hire me. Please like me. Like that neediness is not sexy.

Not attractive. No. But if you're like, I'm God pretending to be human. I've got everything I need right here. If you want to date me, cool. If you want to date me, cool. If you want to hire me, great. Like this is a much more fun way to go through life and it becomes more magnetic.

I love it. So meditation helps with your sex life. Big time. Let's go. Big time. You're connecting a lot of dots for people. Well, the thing is, so let's just talk about some of the stats on that.

Is that if women are too stressed, if their cortisol levels are too high, they become physically incapable of orgasm. If men's cortisol levels are too high and also their adrenaline levels are too high, they become physically incapable of having an erection. Wow. Because adrenaline is trying to keep that blood everywhere else in the body. You got to outrun a tiger. You can't afford to have an erection, right, because it's going to slow you down.

So if your body is constantly in fight or flight, you always think there's a predatory attack around that. The meat suit is not designed to procreate in a dangerous situation. Body has to feel safe first. And so if you get out of fight or flight and into what I call stay and play from that place, you just have more energy available. And then also with meditation, there's something called mirror neurons that get fired. And so mirror neurons is why porn is a multi billion dollar industry. It's like if you are receiving pleasure or you're experiencing pleasure, I can have pleasure from witnessing

your pleasure. That's mirror neurons. Also, if I were to pull out a knife right now and cut my hand, it would hurt you. You'd be like, you would wince. That's mirror neurons. And so when you start meditating, all of your neural activity increases, but including mirror neurons. So you could receive more pleasure from someone else's pleasure. Also, the style of meditation that I teach at Ziva is giving your body rest that's five times deeper

than sleep, because your metabolic rate drops precipitously, like 30 to 45 seconds in. And then also heart rate slows, body temperature cools. So even for 15 minutes, you're getting like over an hour's worth of rest. And the number one reason that people say they're not having as much sex as they would like to is that they're too tired.

Actually 25% of cohabitating adults say that that's the number one reason they don't have as much sex as they would like to. So if Ziva is like a supercharged power nap for your brain, but without the sleep hangover, then it makes sense that you would have, if you're gonna have more pleasure from seeing your partner get pleasure

and you're feeling more rested and you're overall just more healthy and have more life force energy, then it stands to reason that your sex life would get better. I love that, yeah. Now that I think about it, when I was super stressed, I was not having sex. No.

I never even connected it to that, but. Yeah, because your body's just trying to survive. Yeah. Yeah, I just wasn't getting attracted in, because your body's just trying to survive. Yeah Yeah, I just wasn't getting attracted in any way. I was busy dealing with stress. Yeah. Holy crap. I need to meditate when I'm stressed Indeed and actually what I would recommend is meditating before you're stressed like don't treat it like medicine I'll treat it like a supplement like a preventative. Yeah, because if you're doing it every day, you're actually increasing your neuroplasticity You're reversing your body age. You're improving your immune function. And then you're basically setting up your baseline for bliss. And the cool thing is you get addicted to the bliss chemicals, just like you get addicted to anything else. If you were to do cocaine every

day, you would need more cocaine to get high. Well, same is true of dopamine and serotonin. The brain has to start producing more and more of it. So you actually get happier and happier the longer you meditate because your brain needs to produce more of it so it's like you're addicted to meditation but I won't use the word addiction because it's it's constructive for the brain versus destructive for the brain and actually they've examined brains of meditators and at 50 year the average brain age of 50 years old they look like more like 35 or 40 year olds whoa and then you can reverse your body age by somewhere between eight and 15 years. So that's skin elasticity, body's ability to rejuvenate, sleep latency, brain

elasticity, like all of those things. Um, can you like reverse body age yourself with meditation? But the thing is, when I say the thing about meditation is that that word has become like the word food and just like eating a cheeseburger is different than having a salad. Oh, I see. And I think the word meditation has become this blanket term. Yeah. And so you listening to a guided app on your phone is likely not the same thing as learning a skill and then meditating every day twice a day.

Right. You teach a skill. Yeah, I teach a skill. Like I'm a meditation teacher and I give people a skill they can do on their own for the rest of their lives. Got it. And then the more they do it, the benefits become cumulative. Yeah, so they're not following a guided meditation.

Right. Like, I mean, I'll do guided experiences and now that I'm doing more of the sacred sexuality and medicine work, like I am, I'll do activations, but that's different than teaching people the skill of Ziva meditation, which is like basically you plugging in to source energy every day, twice a day. Like you remembering that you are the ocean pretending to be the wave. You remembering your own divinity and also giving yourself this like supercharged power nap

but without the sleeping. I love it. Yeah, I used to love naps, but they were hit or miss. Sometimes I'd wake up even more tired. So I was like, I can't risk that. Yeah, well, the thing is if you meditate first and you do a meditation into a nap nap usually people only need like 10 to 12 minutes of the nap and they still don't have the sleep hangover afterwards.

That's it. Because when you're meditating you're accessing a pre-hypnagogic state and you're so anytime the brain transitions between waking and sleeping there's this 30 second window in between it's very similar to the state of meditation. If you go into that first and then nap, your body will need less sleep on the other side. You mentioned sacred sexuality earlier. I want to learn more about that. What do you want to learn? What is that?

Great question. What is sacred sexuality? Well, just even the fact they're asking that question is so interesting to me, because to me it is the most sacred. It is the most holy. It is the most holy. It is like one of the fastest ways to remember our divinity. And yet in our society we've been trained to think that sex is wrong and bad and dirty and a sin and you're going to go to hell. And we've been trained on all the dangers of it before we've ever been taught about the

sanctity of it or the holiness of it. And if you I've started interviewing people after activations like hey how do you feel after you orgasm. Yeah. People say like you know blissful pure open clean connected kind holy even rarely do people say like dirty wrong bad. And so for me if it's done with intention just

like with medicine work it is like one of the most holy things that there is. So what I do specifically is Eva is that I help people to use their sexual energy to manifest. If it's done with intention, just like with medicine work, it is like one of the most holy things that there is. So what I do specifically at Ziva is that I help people to use their sexual energy to manifest. So just like sexual energy could be used to create a human, that's one of the most divine things we could do, right? To create another human.

That energy can be harnessed to create anything you want. To create a company, create a partner, create a book. And it's really just knowing how to harness this life force energy or what I call creation energy. And does that require semen retention and like abstaining from like orgasm or can you do that both, you think? You can do both.

I mean, I would say, I mean, I know you just had Dave Asprey on and certainly there's like Qigong formulas that will say like, you know, your age and what you're doing in life would be like, this is the optimal times to ejaculate. But you can orgasm without ejaculation and you can also use your sexual energy to manifest and ejaculate. So they're not mutually exclusive. I think that if just like anything, the devil's in the dose and the devil's also in the intention.

Right? Like taking drugs without intention is one thing. Like using your sexual energy without an intention, it's a similar thing. It's like sexual energy is like an endogenous pharmacy and one of the most powerful cocktails of chemicals that nature has installed inside of us. Right?

Not only do you get the dopamine and serotonin, like you do with meditation, but you also have oxytocin, the love hormone, you have norepinephrine, you have adrenaline. And so it's like you're flooding yourself with all these powerful chemicals and to manifest from that heightened state and also to manifest from that place of transcendence. Like in the moment of orgasm, in, they call it le petit mort, right? It's the little death. Because you're practicing dying, you're transcending individuality

and accessing totality. So to manifest from that connected state is similar to manifesting in meditation. And I find that meditation and manifesting are so much more powerful together. Same thing. Manifesting from this post-orgasmic state, it like super charges anything

that you're trying to call in. Wow, manifesting from an orgasm. Let's go. I love manifestation. You heard it here first, kids. Yeah, you heard it here. That's the formula. Yeah, I'm big on manifestation though.

I got a vision board. Clearly. I think I constantly think about what I want. Like. Yeah. So what's your, how do you manifest? Well, vision boards once a year, I write goals. Do you look at it?

Like you keep it up? Yeah, it's in my office. Yeah. Gratitude journal. Talking with friends, you know. About the dream? Yeah. Yeah.

What about you? I mean, I'd say I'm doing it kind of all of the time. And the thing that I've loved about developing Ziva Magic is that there can almost be like a toxic positivity to manifesting that allows people to bypass the pain. Like, well, you know, I'm just I'm just going to manifest this thing and I'm going towards the dream and so I'm not going to feel any of my pain or not going to feel the sadness. And what I found is that in this formula, which is so the Ziba Magic formula is visualize, alchemize, magnetize.

So first it's like have the vision, right? Like make the board or run the movie in your mind. And that's what I'll drop people into coherence with themselves, drop them into meditation and give them space to even ask, what would I love? And then from there we alchemize. So anything standing in the way, like any of there's like worthiness or I don't think I'm good enough or smart enough or tall enough or fast enough or early enough, like whatever the story is, right?

That's going to create a feeling. And I find that if you're willing to go into that feeling and feel it all the way and even let it be expressed through the body, then you can make more space for pleasure. And I've also found that the same skill, the same muscle that is required for you to feel the intensity of your feelings is the same thing that allows you to hold more pleasure in your body and the very simple manifestation formula is like the better you feel the better things you attract. Like my very simple manifestation formula is feel good, place the order, place the order,

feel good. Feel good, place the order, place the order, feel good. Feel good, place the order, place the order, feel good. And so these states of heightened bliss and ecstasy, these states of physical pleasure in the body, it is a way to sort of fast track your vibrational state. And then if you can come back to the vision from this beautiful, ecstatic, connected space, you just find that you attract things and it starts to feel like magic.

It's not magic. There's an extraordinary amount of science and people have been doing this for thousands and thousands of years. You know, before, like we had ketamine clinics on every corner, like people had to use their own endogenous pharmacology to track their state of consciousness. Yeah, I can relate on a personal level because I used to live in a low vibration household and I was attracting pretty much nothing good. And now I just go to the grocery store and like people will come up to me like that used to never happen.

What do they say? They're like nice shirt or like nice shoes, whatever simple comment. Yeah. And yeah, that would never happen to me before. Bravo. Yeah. And how did you shift that? Like how did you shift your vibrational state?

Self work a lot more time in nature. I used to not do that at all. Um, how do you do that in Vegas? There's a red rocks. Okay. Yeah. But I ground at a park next door too. Okay.

Yeah. There's, there's a little grass here. Not much, but there's a little. I just left the city. I've been in the city for 20 plus years, been in New York city, and I just moved to the wither living Katona, New York now. And I have a yard. I mean, it's like 45 minutes from the city.

So it's not really upstairs. It's kind of like the suburbs. But I'm on a lake now and I'm paddle boarding and I have a yard and trees. And it's really changed the game for me. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Yeah.

Just a lot of self-development. I've done past life hypnosis. I've done psychedelics. Just I think accumulation of everything. I don't think it was like one thing. Do you meditate? I don't. You want to? I'm down. Okay. one thing. Do you meditate? I don't.

You want to? I'm down. My thing with meditation is, so I have ADHD. I'm not trying to like make excuses, but I would try these meditations and I just couldn't do it. What would you try? I don't want to shed a little. Like guided meditation on YouTube.

Okay. So I'd love to just talk about the difference between like a guided meditation on YouTube versus Eva, because they really are quite different. And I wanna make sure that anyone who feels like a meditation failure understands the difference. Actually dedicated my whole book to anyone who's ever felt like a meditation failure. Like you're not a failure, you just haven't been taught yet. Like it really is a skill.

And someone guiding you through an experience is awesome, but it's very different than you knowing how to plug in yourself. And lots of people can do Ziva with the, who have ADHD. Like I would actually say it would really help it. It won't be a hindrance to it because you're not following anyone else's guidance. You're using a tool to help your body de-excite and go into more subtle states of consciousness.

And from that subtle state of consciousness, your body's getting rest. It's five times deeper than sleep. And that rest is healing your body not only from the stress from today but all the accumulated stress that the body has from the past. Wow. So that stuff gets stored in your cellular memory and in the meditation it starts to come up and out and this is the thing that ushers us into higher and higher states of consciousness.

It's a thing that reverses body age and improves immune function and improves sleep but it's not you don't have to focus during the meditation and you don't have to clear your mind. Really? Yeah, and this is like a big, big misconception. I'd say it's the number one misconception that people face in meditations. They think they have to clear their mind. That would happen to me.

It'd be like, clear your mind out and think of a white space. And I just couldn't do that. Because it's impossible. Yeah, I couldn't do that. It's impossible. But truly, the brain thinks involuntarily, just like the heart beats involuntarily. And I'm on a big soapbox about this because I know that people are robbing themselves

of a lifetime of bliss and fulfillment because they're basing the success of their meditation on misinformation. And the reason why that happens is that what most people call meditation are actually derivations of monastic practices, things that were originally made for monks. So what I teach at Ziva is it is actually designed for people like us, people with busy lives and jobs and kids and houses. Like we're householders. We're not monks. And so we utilize a tool that ushers you into these deep states of consciousness.

And then you get to a space where there's like, Oh, I'm not Sean Kelly. I just am. You get to this space of expansiveness, but not through focusing, not through trying to clear the mind. So just like your heart beats involuntarily, and I couldn't be like Sean, stop beating your heart. Right, like impossible. You also cannot say, hey, brain, stop thinking.

And so a lot of times when people do the guided visualizations, they don't see a lot of impact and they feel like they're failing. And so I just wanna say, if that's you and you still want to try meditation, like please like know that there is like a guided thing on YouTube would be like a glass of water and like Ziva can help you access the whole ocean. Oh, I love it. I'll try it out. I'm going to gift it to you.

Oh, thank you. It's just 15 minutes a day for 15 days. And then maybe we can have a little chat afterwards or come back on or something And if you commit to it like your life will fucking change. I'll do it. I'm always interested in self-development work So yeah, and think this to me is like the foundation It's like the piece that if you do this the psychedelic work gets shifted Exponentially you do this then the biohacking work gets shifted exponentially the The coaching, like any sort of therapy or religion or coaching, that's a software, right?

Like that's an operating system that you run on the hard drive of your brain. Yeah. And the meditation is the thing that is defragging the hard drive of your brain. And you can't run, you know, brand new software from 2025 on a PC from 1995. Like at some point you're going to have to upgrade the system. And that's what this style of meditation does. That makes sense. I'm excited about it. Thank you.

Yeah, my pleasure. I was watching an old podcast of you. Yeah, from how many years ago? Six years ago. Okay. Yeah, I like to do that with guests. I like to see like what they were talking about a long time ago. What was they talking about?

You said only 8% of Americans meditate. Oof. I looked up the new statistics. It's at 14. So it's gotten a little better. I'm going to call that a win. I'm going to put that in the W category. I'd say you played a role in that, you know? I would say I have statistics. It's at 14, so it's gotten a little better. Okay. I'm going to call that a win. I'm going to put that in the W category. I'd say you played a role in that.

I would say I have too. Even if not me directly. I've taught probably 60,000 people to meditate directly. I think it's been 950,000 people who've done my training on other platforms. But I think more importantly, the people who I've taught. You know, I've taught at Google and Apple and Viacom and Harvard Business School and athletes and Tony award winners and Grammy award winners. And you know, you have one Oscar award winner tweeting about like, hey, this is what meditation has done. And then it starts to be cool.

Right. You know, I'd say Tim Ferriss has played a huge role in that. He says 90% of his podcast guests start their day with meditation. Whoa. Nine zero. What? Mm-hmm. And he's the high performance guy, right?

Yeah, that's a great podcast. Yeah, and Ziva, we started all about meditation for extraordinary performance. Because I believe we meditate to get good at life, not to get good at meditation. And so it's not about how many or few thoughts you're having in the chair. It's like, how good am I at interviewing?

How present am I? How good am I at being a dad? How good is my sex drive? Do my coworkers like working with me? How is my heart rate variability? Like all that stuff. Like that's why we meditate. Not to clear your mind. Yeah. That awareness that comes from it is good. That intuition, right? Yes. The intuition. Because then like think about all the time you waste making bad

decisions versus just being like, boom, this. Right. And, and, and, you know, Dave talks about this or he's like, the mitochondria are actually making the decision for you. I would say that there's, it's like the right brain is the intuition and the left brain is the intellect. And you need both. But you want the intuition to be the king. And you want the intellect to be the advisory committee. And I think because a lot of people don't have access to their intuition, the advisory

committee has become the king. And I think that that is playing a role in the imbalance of society. And I think if we can get back into that intuitive, more right brain, more feminine balance, doesn't mean that like only women rule the world. It means that all of us are balancing our masculine and feminine energies. We have the containment and the flow.

We have the intellect and the intuition. It's like the amount of joy and creativity and regeneration that is possible as a species on the planet. If we can get into that state of consciousness, I don't think any of us can even conceive of right now. the amount of joy and creativity and regeneration that is possible as a species on the planet. If we can get into that state of consciousness, I don't think any of us can even conceive of right now. Absolutely.

I can't wait. I think we're spiritually getting there too. I think so too. I think we're, I think we're having this like K shaped spiritual recovery right now. It's like having like a K shaped economic recovery. Like post COVID, you know, the rich got richer, poor got poor. I'm feeling the same thing happening spiritually. So people who have had access to therapy and psychedelics and meditation and you know, the rich got richer, poor got poor. I'm seeing the same thing happening spiritually. So people who have had access to therapy and psychedelics and meditation

and, you know, personal development work are like popping off into God consciousness, like having these massive spiritual awakenings. And conversely, people who have not had the privilege of access are really plummeting into anxiety and depression and suicidality. And so like this bifurcated society is not a fun place to live. So it's like, how do we close that gap so that we have more coherence and unity? You're right though. It does seem polarizing to extreme ends. I've been on both.

Yeah. You know, so I can relate. Yeah, I've been depressed. Do you find that you like go up and down quickly, or you've just been on the down trajectory and then back up? No, I'd say I was really down in high school, college, maybe a little after college, but now I haven't been that low. And I mean, that's a rich, full life.

You know, it's like, we want to play, you know, all the keys of the human experience. You know, some people like to say that the human experience is very sought after one by other species and because of our ability to experience agony and ecstasy even inside of the same hour. And that's been a big learning for me in the past, I'd say three or four years, since I've had this sexual awakening and sort of working with sexual energy. It's paradoxically allowing me, because I have access to this more powerful medicine, I'm willing to go into darker, more intense places. Or maybe my willingness to go into the darkness has been the thing that has increased my capacity for pleasure, but it feels like the polarity even inside of myself is increasing. And so because sexual energy is one of the most creative forces on the planet, it can

metabolize the pain, it can metabolize the suffering, and it does it quickly. Like I'm always amazed, like on our retreats we'll have people who will heal like many It can metabolize the pain. It can metabolize the suffering and it does it quickly. Like I'm always amazed. Like on our retreats, we'll have people who will heal like many generations of trauma. Like, I mean, it's wild. Like the physical healings, the emotional healings. And it's simply by people accessing

what has been inside of them all along. Wow. Yeah, sexual energy. It's the more I look into it, the more I realize how powerful it is. Yeah, actually crazy. People just take it for granted and watch porn.

Well, I think you have like wasting. Well, I don't call it wasted, but porn is certainly like its own. It's its own unique frequency and just like you wouldn't want to eat sweet tarts morning, noon and night. You know, at some point you want to eat vegetables and you want to nourish your body.

And so I just want for people to know how nourishing it can be, how healing it can be, how holy it can be so that we don't think that sweet tarts is all there is. Yeah, no, it's definitely draining, though, because I used to watch it. And the days I would watch it I'd feel drained. You know, that day I would be way less productive. It was noticeable. And I think a lot of guys are, I don't know about females, but a lot of guys are watching porn almost every day. Pretty bad right now. Yeah, and I've heard these stats that this, you know, generation of kids in their 20s, I don't know if you call it people in their 20s, kids, but like are the least sex generation that we've had in a long time.

A lot of virgins in their 20s still. And I think that, you know, we're like over sexualized and under sexed. Yeah. Right? Versus like we actually just need like physical touch and like hugs and cuddles and physical touch. And I think that because we've gotten so scared of the sexual energy, we've been divorced from it.

We forget how like sweet and sacred and holy it can be. And you got these guys making sex robots, that's AI now. Did you see that Netflix movie that just came out? Nope. With Megan Fox? No. You didn't see this?

No, tell me. Check it out. She plays the role of an AI. Okay. That's supposed to help her of an AI. Okay. That's supposed to help her on the house. Okay. But she ends up like, should I spoil it?

I mean, for me, I mean, maybe just say spoiler. I'm fine with spoiler, but I don't know about your listeners. Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. I don't even know the name of this movie, but if you see Megan Fox, this is the movie. She ends up screwing the husband while the wife is in the hospital.

Well, we also have that coming. That's not much of a spoiler. But yeah, there's a movement in Asia of these AI sex robots or whatever. Yeah, it's kind of weird in my opinion. It's going to be a wild world. And the thing I want to just let us all ponder is that the rate of change is going to speed up exponentially. Right? So we're like, oh, things are getting crazy in AI. AI is an infant right now.

Like, and that infant is going to get faster and smarter. And so what we can't understand is that the rate of change, how quickly that's all going to shift. And so I really think that the single attribute of human success moving forward is going to be our ability to adapt. And this is what meditation gives you, is the ability to adapt.

Sex robots, okay. AI running the world, okay. You know, robots driving cars, okay. I've got robots now in my body, okay. But like we're adapting, we're adapting, we're adapting with equanimity versus like resisting and suffering and resisting and suffering. Yeah. When's your next retreat?

Hmm. I'm interested. Oh, well, I'm working on one in Egypt. Oh. And so you just said you want to go to Egypt. That works out well. And potentially May of 2025, but I can let you know. Yeah, keep me posted.

But I really want to start doing these activations on the sacred sites on the planet. Because it's just. I it just feels like a Dharmic imperative. And I know that the magic that happens for people individually on these retreats, if we can start to like send that energy out into the planet, actually, I don't know what's going to happen, because I don't know if it's ever been done before. But I feel excited to find out. I could see it. I mean, Robert's trying to activate the pyramids right now, right?

Well, that's what we did in December. We went to do a throat chakra activation, and then he took us to another one and he had me lead an activation at the crown chakra, which is this wild pyramid that actually it got it exploded. What? So it's basically just a pile of rose granite, but it was taller than the Great Pyramid of Giza. And some people hypothesize that maybe this was the Tower of Babel.

But it was intense. And I had people do breathwork similar to what we just did beforehand. Really pulling the energy from the root up into their crown. So we started, we planted the seeds for the Crown Chakra activation last December. Let's go. Yeah. Wow. You guys are on a mission. I love it though.

Yeah, I really do. It's the kind of mission where it's like, I just keep getting little breadcrumbs. You know, so I can't see the whole thing right now. But I knew back in, I don't know, maybe 2008, I was like, meditation is going to be big. And I was just, there was this thing in my body where I was like, oh, why isn't everyone doing this? And it was about meditation. And I, I didn't know we'd only gone to 14%, but I think it's, you know, we're starting.

It's rising every year. But I'm having that same feeling right now around sacred sexuality and specifically about these activations Like why isn't everyone doing this and I think part of it is like going back into the ancient technologies that we've forgotten as a species so Yeah, like there was a lot of advanced technology back in the day, right? Yeah I mean we had mega cities going on. I mean, there's some people hypothesize that the Nile was much higher and that it would go underneath the pyramids. And so I'm working with a woman who does, she works with water around the planet.

And she, I won't do a spoiler alert just yet, but exciting things coming in the world of Ziva and retreats. And I would love to have you on. Yeah, I can't wait to contribute in any way I can. Water is fascinating. Well, it has a perfect memory. Yeah, did you see the study of like when you yell at it and then pour it on the plant? Well, Dr. Mori Emoto, he did he has a book called The Hidden Messages in Water. I write about it in my book as well because it's because we are water and when you meditate you bring your body into such coherence

they actually change the molecular structure of the water in your body. So when you meditate around water as well it changes the molecular structure of the water. Like they would put water in like places with monks meditating or they put water in like houses with domestic abuse and then they would look at the molecules underwater and one would be coherent and look like beautiful snowflakes with sacred geometry and the other would be jagged. Interesting. Because I just went to a baptism and we had to put water on it. So that kind of makes sense now, right?

Do they do that there? Well, yeah, but that water has been prayed over. Right. Like it's holy water. Yeah, that's why they put it on. And I like won't eat food now without blessing it. Like every time I eat my food. I just had a guest talk about this.

Yeah, it's really important because in Ayurveda, the state of consciousness that you're in when you're eating is as important as the food itself. The state of consciousness of the cook is almost more important than the food. So it's like that intention is shifting the, I guess like the bioavailability or the medicinal properties of the food. Also food is water. A lot of water is in food.

I got to start thinking my food then before I eat it. Yeah. I mean, there's a reason why almost every civilization on the planet for since the beginning of time has said grace or done prayer right beforehand. Oh, wow.

Yeah. I used to get annoyed as I was a kid. Yeah, of course, because we may get boring for kids. Yeah. My son, I have a six year old and he, uh, he, uh, he's just now

starting to say what he's grateful for. Nice. Yeah. I think songs like doing little songs can be fun. Teaching them young. That's just now starting to say what he's grateful for. Nice. Yeah. I think songs, like doing little songs can be fun. Teaching them young. That's good though. Thanks. I've got it through to that age. I don't know if I could say the same for me.

Well, I'm worried that I'm going to have like a preacher's kid. He's like, I hate meditation because I'm too into it. Yeah. Sometimes they rebel, right? Yeah. But I made a kid's meditation training called Ziva Kids. And I worked with folks from Sesame Street and Harvard Child Psychologists and I have a bunny his name is Z Bunny he's my co-star and so when my son was two that was like the only videos he could watch would be Ziva Kids and he just thought it was hilarious. I love it. But now he's six and he's sort of like mom I'm over this. Yeah because kids are jumping off the

wall so meditation must be a little more difficult for them right? Well it's not I'm not having them sit I'm having like shake through their feelings I'm having them doing breath work. Oh smart. And Z Bunny's training to be a superhero so it's not I'm not having them sit. I'm having like shake through their feelings. I'm having them doing breath work Oh smart and Z bunnies training to be a superhero. So it's basically like entertainment but entertainment is giving your kids skills Yeah, I think I saw you talk about dancing on a podcast. Mm-hmm. Yeah dancing to clear some energy or something Yeah, so it's cool because you know, I used to be on Broadway for a long time So I was singing and dancing and acting so I've been using my body as an instrument for a long time but now to merge the worlds of meditation and dance. And basically what I'm helping people to do is like find the things that are

blocking them from the manifestation. Like if you're listening to this, just think about like anything that you want. It could be a partner of a million dollars, a million followers, a new company, but anything that you're wanting to call in. And then if you tune into like, what's the thing that's keeping me from it? Right? Is it feel like I'm, there's no good men in New York City, or I don't have enough capitals to start the company,

or like, whatever your story is. Right? Likely that creates a feeling in the body. And the thing is that if we don't feel it, we don't allow it to be expressed, then it will energetically block you from the dream. But if you can just feel it, name it, say it, express it, you could journal it, you could purge it, you could dance it, you could let the music alchemize it. Then not only do you clear the channel, you start to, which makes more space for

more pleasure, but you can start to be an energetic match. You come to like a vibrational match for the dream. Right? Like you said, I would go through the grocery store and I was living in a low vibe house and no one would ever come up to me. Right? You've done this work. You've changed the vibration. And I mean, charted this, right? Like shame, you know, sadness, sorrow, grief. Like your body vibrates at a different frequency when you're feeling those, those emotions versus love, gratitude, authenticity, right? You said you're here for the truth.

Yeah. Truth is actually an even higher vibrational frequency than love. Wow. That's crazy. Yeah. The truth. And I feel like these days being authentic is winning. Yep.

Cause the modern day celebrity is not what it used to be. The people getting attention now are like podcasters and people that are just normal people. You know what I mean? You think you're normal? I don't like that word. What's normal? Yeah, I don't know. I like being weird.

You know, I like weird people. But like to your point, like that's that's authenticity, right? Because like the more you let your freak flag fly, like the more true it is. And I think that the more like if God wanted eight billion Sean Kelly's, she would have made eight billion Sean Kelly's. If God wanted, you know, eight billion Emily Fletcher's, he would have made that. But instead we're all unique. And so it's like, how can we find that divinity inside of the diversity. Like that feels like an exciting exercise to me.

I love that. That we're all these different waves on this giant ocean of consciousness, right? I'm the wave that looks like Emily and you're the wave that looks like Sean. But to me, the spiritual game is remembering that we're all the ocean. And we can do that through poetry, through love,

through podcasting. I think that's why people love podcasting because it reminds us of sitting around the fire, reminds us of these long form conversations that we used to have, and we get to feel people's souls. Right, versus just like a 90 second reel on Instagram where somebody's pitching their whatever. It's like you get to hear what really lights someone up,

their fears, their dreams. Yeah, yeah, because you can't fake it for an hour. You know, you can fake it for a little bit. But on a podcast, the real you is coming out at some point. You know? Yeah. Well, Emily, it's been fun. What do you got coming up next other than the event in May? Well, I would say the big things we're focusing on right now is really letting people know

about Ziva Med meditation, which is like our flagship offering. And it's called Ziva online, but it's basically 15 minutes a day for 15 days. And it teaches you mindfulness, meditation and manifesting, but in a way that is so much more enjoyable and so much easier than what most people think. And actually we have a free master class. So people go to zivameditation.com slash podcast. There's a master class that goes pretty deep

into the science there of like, why is this different than other styles of meditation? And then we've just launched Ziva Magic, which I'm really, really proud of. And this is an embodied manifesting course, which is teaching people visualize, alchemize, magnetize. And those are both available anytime So and then and those kind of like get you ready for the retreats

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