Digital Social Hour - Why Self-Sufficiency is the Future of Living | Owen Benjamin DSH #1175

Episode Date: February 11, 2025

Why is self-sufficiency the ultimate way forward? 🌱 On this episode of the **Digital Social Hour**, host Sean Kelly dives into an incredible conversation with the always thought-provoking Owen Benjamin. From homesteading and raising kids on a farm to questioning mainstream narratives, this episode is packed with valuable insights into why a sustainable, self-reliant lifestyle is the future of living. 🐓🍅    Discover how Owen transitioned from Hollywood to homesteading, the surprising truths about food quality, and why he believes decentralization and local community are the keys to thriving in today's world. Plus, don’t miss his unique takes on societal norms, the importance of family, and even some fascinating theories that’ll leave you questioning everything. 🤯    This is more than a podcast—it’s a roadmap for anyone looking to take control of their life and embrace a more independent way of living. 🌍💪 Tune in now and join the conversation today!    👉 **Watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets.** 📺 Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more eye-opening stories on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🚀   CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 01:40 - Making Butter at Home 05:00 - Today's Sponsor Announcement 06:15 - Brainwashed by LA Culture 07:45 - Cancel Culture and Transgender Issues 10:49 - Social Media and Free Speech Debate 12:39 - Netflix Original Content 16:25 - Pushing Back Against Cancel Culture 18:14 - Understanding Racism Today 22:58 - Exploring Conspiracy Theories 26:26 - The Truth About Nuclear Weapons 29:10 - Subliminal Programming in Hollywood 38:38 - The Moon Landing Controversy 41:45 - Fascinating Facts About Dinosaurs 45:44 - The Existence of Aliens 47:17 - Insights into Quantum Physics 49:38 - The Mystery of Pandas 51:40 - Where to Find Owen   APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [e-mail]   GUEST: Owen Benjamin https://www.instagram.com/owenbenjaminofficial/ https://owenbenjamin.com/   SPONSORS: Specialized Recruiting Group: https://www.srgpros.com/   LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/   #homestead #homesteading #permaculture #offthegrid #foodpolicies  

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right? Thanks for coming. At one point, yeah, at one point, I think that's turning around though. I think the world kind of caught up to some of my wild thoughts. Yeah, you were like five years ahead of everyone. Yeah, I think so. And then there's people way ahead of me too. It's not like, you know, I'm starting to see that the past is the future.

You know, I might just go full Amish. I think they're the most cutting edge guys out there. I mean, no mental health issues. They seem pretty happy. Yeah, they make all their own stuff. You know, they got horses. I'm in. I get my dogs from Amish, man.

They make the best dogs. What kind of dogs? We got an Australian Shepherd and a Golden Retriever. Nice, man. But we went up to PA. I used to live in Jersey. So we went up to PA, got them, and just witnessing their lifestyle, I was like, this is not bad, you know

Yeah, I love seeing like a nine-year-old Skin in a raccoon to like sell it to a Chinese market or something It's just they're so you know, my kids are like that living on a homestead, too They're kind of like more advanced than I was at that age when it comes to just being like adults Yeah, you know, they still have that innocence of kids, but they can just, you know, kill a chicken and eat it. Wow, I'm eight years old, that's impressive. Yeah, the homestead lifestyle is appealing

at the same time you still need to make money though, right? Yeah, it can all start blending together. When I was talking to your buddy out there, it's funny how in the last special I did a bit about how I don't even know what I say what I do for a living It's almost like I sound like a mob guy You know where you can mix so many things together now And I just think things are going more local and more decentralized that you know like I can sell butter to premium

From my from my cows, and then I can do my podcast from home and all how does one make butter? I'm interested in that process. Oh, dude, I could talk about this forever. I mean, my wife just did a class on how to make cheddar. Really? Because it's so interesting. Like the metaphors and the fractals for society, that's where my brain goes, is just fascinating. You know, the cream rises.

All those like sayings that everyone, no one knows where they come from, it all comes from farming. Like your cow kicks the bucket or the cream rises or all that. All those like sayings that everyone, no one knows where they come from, it all comes from farming. Like your cow kicks the bucket or the cream rises or all that. So you take the cream and then you just churn it until it's butter.

Oh, that's it? That's it. Oh, wow. Yeah, but the type of, but you want raw A2A2 milk from like a Jersey cow, like a lot of cream. And the milk in the stores, I mean, this whole podcast could just be about milk. I think milk is great. The milk in the stores, it mean, this whole podcast could just be about milk. I think milk is great. The milk in the stores, it's homogenized and pasteurized.

So it's like, there's no cream wine. It's just all mixed and burned. And so you can't really do much with it. That's why I'm a big straight from the teat guy. Yeah. I'm on the raw milk wave. Good. When I'm at Whole Foods, I only buy cheese if it's raw.

Good. Yeah, that's what we make too. Yeah, because you look at the ingredients on the shredded ones, it's like a bunch of shit you can't even pronounce. Yeah, and those cows are just, I think you can taste it in the meat or the milk. It's like they lived a horrible life.

It's like stress and chemicals. Yeah. My animals are happy. I do believe there's an adiogenic component to food. Yes. Like, you eat shit quality food, like that affects you. I think it's the entire thing. I think that's like so...

I think that's the root of so many problems. It goes all the way down to soil. Because it's you are what you eat eats. So it's like, you know, your cow eats the grass, the grass is grown from the soil, the water. I mean, it's so basic that it's mind blowing to someone like me that wasn't raised on a farm, you know? Yeah. Yeah. People got to realize if they're eating fast food and like... Oh, it's like blowing to someone like me that wasn't raised on a farm, you know? Yeah, yeah. People gotta realize if they're eating fast food and like. Oh, it's like just raw cancer. You know? I know, right?

Hopefully with Maha, things change though. Yeah. Are you excited for that movement? Yeah, I hope that they show people that they have to do it. No one else, that's the fundamental shift that has to happen. I'm friends with a lot of those guys, and it's like, but it's all about,

no one's coming to help you, you gotta do it, you gotta grow it. And it's like, you can do it in an apartment, you can just grow anything in your window, but just that empowering thing is what health is about. Yeah, it was cool, we were talking before this, you said if the grocery stores went out of business, you would be fine.

Yeah, my whole area, it wouldn't even notice. I mean, it would be weird, but we're very self-sustaining, you know? I wanna live in a community like that when I have kids for sure. Yeah, that's what got me out of LA. It was like, when I had my first son, I just knew that that environment

wasn't right for a family. Yeah, LA is good for business, but for families, probably not. Horrible. Yeah, and I was, you know, we were doing well at the time. I had like a nice condo in Marina Del Rey with a full, you know, staff and everything. And... Looking for the ultimate online casino experience?

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You know, this is not, this is not a place for a kid. Yeah. And I wanted them to like really know people and understand trust. And, and so, yeah, the rest is history. And then when we left, I was still wrapped at CAA and everything, but my view of the world started changing a little, because I was in a more small town environment.

And that's when I started butting heads with mainstream culture a little more. That makes sense. So would you say when you were living in LA, you were a little brainwashed, a little- I was just more, yeah, I think right wing, left wing is so urban rural. Like think about every issue, like guns.

Like when you're in a tight city, someone having a gun sounds like a nightmare. Cause like whenever you shoot, you have to think that behind that person could get shot too. In the country, it's like necessity. Same with, you know, centralized control versus decentralized control, the whole racism thing, where you're in an area

where there's all different races all around the world packed together, the one thing you're scared of is any racial identity or something. When you're in the country, it's not that at all. There's no threat. You're just like, oh, it's more it's more about like kinship and stuff And so so much of the political spectrum has to do in my opinion with the density of the population That's such a good point. I've never heard that angle. Yeah, even abortion like even like

How much you you you respect and value life? You know, like if you're just like cramped on a Japanese subway, you're like, oh, there's too many people You're always thinking there's too many people. Where I live, a person is like so valuable. You just see, oh, you're a friend, oh, cool. And everything changes, especially when you have kids and you see it. Yeah, it was brainwashed in the sense

that I didn't understand what I was permitting. Like I was very permissive. I wasn't like doing a lot of, you know, I drink and party and stuff like that, but I wasn't, I didn't understand what I was very permissive I wasn't like doing a lot of you know, I drink and party and stuff like that but I wasn't I didn't understand what I was signing off on with some of these movements and then when the trans child thing happened that's when I I Separated from the herd. That's when I got like canceled, you know, and now you're proving to be right because they just outlawed that right? Yeah, I mean I was never saying anything that wasn't even like totally obvious, you know?

Yeah, yeah, you were on it early though. That was peak cancel culture. Yeah, because it was they were trying to push it into the zeitgeist and I was like, you know My piano teacher growing up was like trans at one point Like I'm not I wasn't born to be this hyper judgmental guy, but kids are innocent and once they went too far. It's almost like How would I describe it? I don't know. Like that waking up moment when you're like being lulled, it's like the perfect beat and then boom, the beat changes and now you can see all the instruments playing.

And I'm like, then I started rethinking all of it. I'm like, what have I signed off on? Cause that was so crazy evil to me. I'm like, cause I was living what live Cause that was so crazy evil to me. Yeah. I'm like, cause I was, you know, live and let live, but they don't get to choose. Like an eight year old cannot consent to like a hormone blocker.

And I was never in it for the money or fame or anything. I genuinely am like a craftsman of jokes. So I'm like, I'll just do something else then. And then I just kept doing comedy and now I built my own platforms and stuff, you know? That's what you had to do. You had no other choice. No other choice. I'm not even ambitious I like I did a whole special ones called reluctant warlord I'm just like I didn't even want to have to build a competing company

You just won't let me on I like, you know, they kicked me off everything Twitter YouTube Airbnb like we had what? They kicked me off everything, Twitter, YouTube, Airbnb. What? Yeah, we had a house that I was running out in my wife's name that they kicked me off. That's nuts. Yeah. In your wife's name?

Yeah, my wife's name, 4.9 stars, we're like one of those, seen as one of those really good hosts. It was rented all the time. It was like, it could sleep 16 people on water. It was this beautiful house. And yeah, they canceled our account like that for COVID disinformation in 2020 because I was telling people about vaccines and stuff like that. And they were so arrogant about it. But the way I see how all of it works is it always ends up good because that money, I never would have sold that house.

I was like, we have some income on it, sell the house and now we have this money. And so then we built our house we're in now and we don't have to be landlords. It was like awesome. Damn. Yeah. That is crazy.

So they even targeted your wife. I can't believe that. Oh, it's income, all income. They were like, and that's why I went through the post office where it was like, send me a letter, send me support any way you can. And people showed up, man. Wow. And then send me, you know, support any way you can. And people showed up, man.

And then we just, it's almost like chess where you go back to the middle and then you re or like, uh, what's it called? Where you get really cold, hypo, hypothermia. Yeah. Hypothermia. You want to control the center. Yeah. And then you can go back to the extremities.

And that's what we did. It was like core values, you know, how to pay the bills. What are we dependent on? That's when I got goats. That's when I started getting like that. And then now we're going back out again. Now the tide is shifting and it's cool. I'm very happy that all of that happened.

Yeah, do you think the social media platforms will allow more free speech compared to the Biden administration? I mean, they have to. Yeah, I'm excited for what Trump's up to these days. He seems like he's changed, like an energy has shifted a bit. I'm seeing mixed things on it. On TikTok, they're censoring certain things apparently, and on X too, but we'll see.

I think overall, there'll be more free speech. They'll always censor. It's just like, are they censoring the goods, like something that is helpful? Are they censoring, you know, like more bad stuff, like more subversive stuff for kids? Cause I understand, like I could, I used to be able to do shows

for like a Mormon corporate at 3 p.m. Like I know, I'm good with rules. It's almost like coding where it's like X equals five, you know? You can't say this word because of this, you can't do this. But the nebulous nature of like, we know it when we don't like it and we'll get rid of it. And I'm like, but like I got a strike on YouTube

for the Sackler family episode about pointing out that family with opioids for antisemitism. Whoa. And now, and that was before it all came out. And now it's like a Netflix documentary and they like have been fined, you know? Fine billions, right?

Huge. Yeah, and that's the irony is I was never telling people to blame Jews for their problems. I'm just like, this is what APEC does. This is all this. Watch out for this, you know? Yeah, that's nuts. Candice Owens won anti-Semite of the year. I know that was some DEI stuff. Were you nominated for that too? No. Oh, really? I'm a white male. They got to give it to the black lady. of the year. I know that was some DEI stuff. Were you nominated for that too? No. Oh really?

I'm a white male, they gotta give it to the black lady. I'm surprised you weren't nominated, our boy Jake Shields was. Yeah, cause mine is too funny. They almost want it to be more, Jake's, I don't know why they promote Jake, cause Jake's so likable. Cause I think they get worried when you're likable and funny.

They want someone to just be like seething because that backfired with me. They would do all these articles with the ADL and all this and then people would check it out and they'd see the cartoons. Like have you seen the Pol Pot cartoon? I see that. Oh, I got to send you that. It's Pol Pot arguing with a Hollywood guy about marketing a genocide. Okay.

Because you just, you just laugh. Like I know hardcore Jews that would just just they can't help but laugh at that And that kind of breaks the illusion, you know, yeah, cuz your friends are Jewish people Yeah, like I I'll make fun of how they rub their hands or act like victims But it's not I have no issue with their like religion or lineage or something, you know I mean as comedian you poke at everywhere. I have to or I lose my privilege Like that's the whole thing. Like I, I went hard at Islam when that mattered. It's like whatever the sacred cow is, you gotta do.

Unless it's like a rule, like no religious jokes or no swearing. But if it's like we get to make fun of Islam and not Jews, I can't sign off on that because then I'm just like a psycho. Yeah, it makes me wonder because Netflix obviously has a lot of comedy specials. It makes you wonder what they're telling them can and can't sign off on that, because then I'm just like a psycho, you know? Yeah, it makes me wonder, because Netflix obviously has a lot of comedy specials. It makes you wonder what they're telling them can

and can't be said. Oh, I know a lot of this stuff. Because they gotta be holding back, right? Oh, yeah. I mean, Netflix's owner is related directly to Edward Bernays. I mean, it's like social engineering. Yeah.

Yeah, you know, edgy is like the edgy they want. And it's okay, they built it. That's what I got really empowered when I'm like, you only control what you own. So I'm like, okay, I gotta build stuff. And my stuff is a lot smaller, but it's like, you know, Netflix has some good shows. Yeah.

But yeah, I mean, but see, they gotta ride a wave too. They gotta ride a tight rope because they lose the crowd if they get too nuts. Exactly, you saw Disney had to pivot from the DEA. They have to, they have to. I remember they had a trans guy in one of their movies, they had to cut it, because they were getting so much outrage.

Yeah, because in the end of the day, they need the attention, and someone like me gets a lot of eyeballs, because I'm authentic and funny, but I don't get the platforms, but I get a lot of like diehard listeners. And that's why, you know, they'll be like, oh, you're a cult leader.

And I'm like, why? Cause I have like a cult like following because I'm not allowed on YouTube. So they find me and that's why. Yeah. And so, but the other side is that hyper promotion, it has to be at least kind of funny. That's why, you know, a dude like Shane Gillis

is a good guy for that right now like he's Funny to normal guys, but they're promoting him well, which is cool because they have to they can't just go with Remember when Netflix had that special was just a girl. I can play about being raped Who was that she was like this isn't a joke and? She was like, this isn't a joke. And she just was like, I'm like, you have to make it a joke. Like that's the whole job. I think I heard about that one. Yeah, and it's not like you're signing off on rape.

You're like, this isn't appropriate. It's like a different venue, you know? Yeah, it's interesting to see which comedians they really push and which ones they don't. Yeah. They went against Chappelle. They did. They really promoted Kevin Hart.

Yes. You know, he's got like four specials on there. That was my first set I ever did. They really promoted Kevin Hart. Yes. He's got like four specials on there. That was my first set I ever did, was opening for Kevin Hart College. Wow, small world. That was my first set I ever did. And he was like a college act at the time. And he was a nice guy.

I enjoyed that, really little guy, tiny. It's been interesting to see his just- Meteoric. Meteoric, like almost like unheard of. Yeah. Did you see that coming when you were. Meteoric, like almost like unheard of. Yeah. Did you see that coming when you were with him back then? No, not at all. I didn't even think about that, but like, you know,

I watched, Chappelle has always been awesome. Yeah. Like I've watched him do three hour sets and just hold the audience the entire time, you know? People say he's the goat, so. What's that? People say he's the goat. Yeah, he is.

You have him as your- Well, I think Norm MacDonald is, but he's not with us so. What's that? People say he's the goat. Yeah, he is. You have him as your... Well, I think Norm MacDonald is, but he's not with us anymore. Yeah, one and two. Yeah, it's been interesting to see the comedy space and cancel culture, you guys were really on ice, right? You guys were scared to say anything. Yeah, and I never back down from one thing.

Oh, you didn't? No, and I won't even say it on your show, but people would be like, how come you can say the N-word in rap, but I can't, And I just say it. I'm like, you can, there's no, there's no evil in a word. It's intention. And then I'd give all these like scenarios, like what, what is worse saying this or

this? And I, cause my, my parents were college professors, so I'm just breaking down the logic of rhetoric. And I'm like, the intention of something is everything. You can't ban a color. It's like the intention of something is everything. You can't ban a color. It's like the painting. And so I resisted with actually doing it. And that drove some people crazy,

but I think I helped push it back. Like I think I was part of that, the pushback. Cause all it takes is a small amount of people, you know? Yeah, well now Tate's tweeting it every day. Myron Gaines is tweeting this. Yeah, and it's always just how you do it too. Mine was about a stolen bike when I was 11. So like you couldn't get mad.

And the irony is, is I know black dudes that are like, they're like, how come you lump us in? Like how come everyone lumps us in with these crime statistics? I'm like, if only there was another word for the group of you that commits the crimes. I'm like, yeah, we have to say black now because the hard end you said is hate. I'm like, ironically, now so many jokes and statements are saying black people do this.

I'm like, eh, that's like saying white trash is like, I'm offended by white trash. It's like, oh, don't say don't say white trash. I'm like, no, there's people in Walmart on a fat scooter covered in sauce. I'm like, go ahead. It's just like the end. You're like, everyone knows what that is. It's crime. People get really pressed about racism. It's interesting to me.

People were racist to me growing up, but I think it's how you kind of react to it. You know what I mean? 100%. What race are you? Are you like half Chinese? So I'm half Chinese, as I was gonna guess. No one made fun of me for being white, but Chinese, yeah, people called me like ching chong,

eat dogs, whatever, all the basic Chinese stuff. And it never really affected me, to be honest. Yeah, cause you're not, you don't strike me as having narcissistic personality disorder. I've taken a test for that, yeah. I didn't get high on that one. Yeah, because it is like, it's on you to not be offended.

Like dude, I've hung out with five percenters till four in the morning. Like they're calling me like a glacier monkey. And it's just like a funny riff, you know, versus actually not being capable of being someone's friend because of their race is not what I'm proposing. Like comedy is totally different. Yeah, yeah, it's that victim mentality,

that victim mindset, I think. Yeah, oh, it's all victim consciousness. That's the thing I'm trying to tell everybody because it's like when you offload your responsibility and say that like every victim is a tyrant because they're justifying their behavior. They're saying because of my oppression is why I have to blah, blah, blah.

And that's why I don't hang out with victims. Now you can be victimized. Like I'm not saying that you can't be harmed or damaged, but like you're not a victim. You know, everybody, and I see that with white dudes these days, they're like, oh, whites are so oppressed, white replacement. I'm like, dude, I just made four kids with my dick.

I'm like, dude, just have more kids. And they're like, oh, but they won't let me. I'm like, eh, victim consciousness. I've seen that too. I haven't personally experienced that, have you? The white oppression? Zero. I mean, I've experienced non-victim oppression

that they'll say it's because I'm white or something. But look at Kanye, as soon as Kanye started saying the wrong stuff, he was putting a box. It's not like the blacks have it easier, you know? It's do you act a certain way? So if you act without victim consciousness, people get freaked out,

and then they'll call you like the white man and blah, blah, blah. But if you're, you know, I don't experience anything. For real. I always thought the race stuff was just such a low IQ conversation. It's so stupid. It's so stupid.

That's why I'm happy that DEI is gone because that stuff was just pushing us backwards. Horrible, horrible. I'm always been about just who's the best at something. Yeah, why would it matter? Well, the feminine, like women, they're all about, like the, I used to do a bit about women are communists,

men are capitalists, where it's like, man, it's like, he's the fastest, make him captain. Women are like, she's the prettiest, tell everybody she has herpes. It's like, they want like the coherence of the group and men are about like, are you good at something? Are you cool? Can I trust you?

And together it makes a good family, but like I understand why women are like that. Cause when you have a bunch of toddlers, like they have to all be equal, you know? You can't be like the three year old is faster, give him more protein, you know? But then you can't run a country like that. Yeah, my fiance always tells me you can't pick favorites

with our kids when we have them. No. I'm like, as a guy you want to though. We kick in around eight. That's when we start like hitting, like, but when they're young, you just, as a guy, you want to though. We kick in around eight. That's when we start like hitting, like, but when they're young, you just, you gotta just, they're all good, you know? Yeah.

There's discipline, but they're all good. I love that. Are you gonna have a bunch of kids? I want at least two, maybe three. What about you? Dude, you gotta have more with those height men. Yeah, it's a rare thing to have, right? Dude, I'm a height supremacist.

You're six eight, so I'm- Well, I just see others, all people. I don't even think race. I'm like, I really hope they have a lot of children because we're getting, the world's getting a little shorter. No, that is, it's been proven. We used to be taller.

Yes. It's because of the food. And I think that, you know, you fly in an airplane, you go into a garage, oh, six foot five is the limit. I'm like, no now talk about oppression. Yeah, yeah, that's heightism, right? Heightism.

Yeah, I had a guest on, he was talking about ancient civilizations and the average person used to be our height. They were like six foot five. They were huge. Yeah. Yeah. And now that we're like giants in today's society. I know, that's why I want more of us have a bunch of kids. If we could have one above seven, that'd be cool.

How tall is your wife? She's five, six. Same with mine. But our kids are all 99th percentile. I don't need like giants, but just over six I think is good for the world. Under six as a male is tough, dude. I see a lot of my friends are under six

and they said it affects their confidence. Dude, they get sneaky. So they can still be cool. Like I'm not saying all short people are like that, but it's a factor. There's a syndrome for it, right? I forget the word. Is it just short man syndrome? It might be, yeah. Yeah, because they're always like-

Or Napoleon complex. Napoleon complex. They're always doing like Machiavellian 48 laws of power stuff. Because they can't just be open and honest, because they're always thinking that they're going to be like crushed by the giant. Yeah. When did you start looking into some of these conspiracy theories? When did you start questioning some of these world events? Well, as a comic, I've always been like that because you're always looking at what is versus how people are acting.

Like even just the most basic jokes are just what is versus how are people acting. But like the big ones was after the trans kid thing, because that's when I lost trust. but like the big ones was after the TransKid thing because that's when I lost trust. You know, it's like, it's kind of like if you're dating someone and then there's a big trust issue and then you just, everything's different after that. It was like that.

And that's when I started. And I used to have a physics podcast at Caltech and I was all about, you know, the science and all that. And then- Wow, that's a big change up. Yeah, no, I love actual science. I love the scientific method. I love physics, you know, the science and all that. And then- Wow, that's a big change up. Yeah, no, I love actual science. I love the scientific method. I love physics, you know, but,

but once I started seeing what's capable and like what social engineering is and all that, that's when I started questioning. Yeah, a lot of science, like these scientific studies seem to be compromised too these days. 100%, I did a sketch once about a scientific study of who sleeps more between me and my wife after the kid. Yeah.

And so I, and the whole sketch was about I get my scientists to prove it's me. You know, I'll send it to you after the stream, but it's like, it's a hundred percent that's what it is. I mean, you look at who's funding it, right? Dude, imagine if I just gave you like a million dollars and I'm like, own a company that makes the thing I'm telling you to study.

Right. You know, it's usually not super direct because that's just like criminal fraud, but it's almost like the grants at universities where it's just like implied or like in Hollywood, it's who gets the development deal. Like, and then you just see what the behavior is and then you mimic that.

Now, the global warming thing was totally that. Everyone's just like mimicking it because they're getting money Yeah, I remember growing up fearful of global warming as a kid. They program that one really well on people for me It was nukes nukes. Yeah, we used to like do things where we hit under the desk Like drills and I find out I don't think nukes are even real. What? Yeah. We got to dive into that. Yeah. So what made you have that position? Actually looking into it, dude. The facts around all of it are insane.

So Hiroshima and Nagasaki, I think they were all bombed, but they weren't even in the top 10 most bombed. Did you know that? No. All right. So, yeah, Tokyo is way more bombed. Did you know that? No. All right, so yeah, Tokyo was way more bombed. They weren't even top 10. And the Japanese didn't surrender because of that.

It was because the Russians just went into Manchuria and there was no fallout. So for me, it was all the fallout. The fallout was what scared me. I'm like, okay, so it's gonna poison the water and the air forever and ever. And then my dad did a speech in Hiroshima or something and I was scared about the fallout.

And it's like, oh no, there's no fallout. And I realized that they never even evacuated. And then I started looking into nuclear bombs and I'm like, so where is the proof? And then right here in Nevada, they used to blow all of them up, there's no fallout. So I'm like, oh, it's like a Psi-Op. It's like, and that's why I'm not even trying to push it on people that they're fake.

Cause I see the game theory of it where it's like, I have a gun under the table. So do I. Let's not go to war. But the fear of it was nuts growing up, but there's really no evidence that they exist as described. Holy crap. There's huge bombs, but think about it. What's the evidence of fallout radiation from nuclear bombs? There's none.

Damn, that's nuts. So what about Chernobyl then? I think that there, well, there is, have you looked into Galen Windsor? No. Okay, so a lot of this, I grew up with a town with three nuclear power plants. A lot of it is to demonize nuclear power

because it's just boiling water. So he was like one of the heads of GE for nukes and he was on the Manhattan Project. He said most of it was TNT. He's like, you can blow it up and make it look like a giant mushroom. And then if you look at the actual footage of the nuclear bomb and what it does to buildings,

that's 100% miniatures. That's fake photography. And I've proven that and it got like 30 million views on Twitter and people were going nuts, but it's so obvious that they just get mad. And I'm like, why hang onto the fear, man? It's like not scary. It's. Holy crap.

So we need to do a podcast with someone in Japan that knows about this stuff. Well, a lot of them aren't allowed to talk about it. Really? Yeah, and they also have victim consciousness around that. Wow. Dude, my theory, this is just a theory. I think it was their way of getting out of World War II with honor was like the nuke narrative,

because the emperor, you're not supposed to surrender. And so I think that's why whole groups of people can do it. But I'd love to talk, you know, when I was going through this, I was listening to podcasts with like 95 year old ladies that never had cancer, that were working at a Mitsubishi plant. It just didn't line up.

Yeah. You know, 60,000 people I think died. Like I'm not questioning the death. It's the fallout, cause that's the scary thing. The scary thing is like all the rain is poison and all this. And it's never been shown to be true. That's such a good point. Cause you would have seen mass health events afterwards.

It would have been a cloud moving China, Korea. Yeah. And it would have been an uptick in cancer. And it's a blue zone. Whoa. Right? It's getting crazier. You see what I'm saying? It's like the life expectancy of Japan right now

is way above America. So McDonald's is worse than a nuclear bomb. Holy crap. Yeah, dude, I'm not saying this stuff because I'm wrong. Like I can be wrong. My thing is I might be wrong, but I'm not lying. Like I can be wrong all the time. But when you see the fundamentals are just all not there,

it's crazy. Yeah. You know, like the longest living people are in Japan. Oh yeah, of course. Well then how is that possible? Like right now someone who's 98 in Japan lived through the atomic explosions. And then they're like, oh, it wasn't that close.

It's like, it's a little island chain. So you're saying it had no that close. It's like, it's a little island chain. So you're saying it had no effect at all, versus America's life expectancy is dropping right now. Yeah, and that's a whole nother podcast on what's happening. Totally. But damn, I never heard of this one being questioned. This is interesting.

I'm gonna look into this more, dude. That is crazy. It makes you wonder how long they've been trying to program people, because this was way back then. Oh yeah, no, this is the whole thing. I mean, once the flickering picture was live, they realized that it was game on. Like you could, like there was a bet between Walt Disney

and someone else that they could make, they can make people cry to a drawing of a deer, you know? Yeah, they're like social engineers, you know? Wow. Bambi's mom, you know? And they're like flickering images and people are weeping and they're like yeah yeah there's a lot of subliminal programming in Hollywood right oh yeah it's a Hollywood is that is the wood of a magic wand you know it's the Hollywood yeah not crazy and

it is and it's nuts because growing up I never questioned any of the stuff I was watching me neither I was all I wanted to get all the A's. I'm like, I could name all these stars, 186,000 miles per second and blah, blah, blah, and the pulsar and the white dwarf. And then I'm like, how do they know this stuff? And there's like no evidence. Yeah, history class was one of my favorites as a kid. I love history, yeah.

But now I'm going back and looking at, wait, did that actually happen? Dude, I studied World War II history in the Czech Republic. I was so interested in it. Wow. Because my hometown of Oswego, New York is the only town in all of America that took in Jewish refugees during the Holocaust.

And everyone's so pumped about that, but I'm like, why? That doesn't make any sense. So we're fighting Germany, and this is the worst thing that's ever happened in human history. So then why was it 900 dudes from Italy? You know, and so I, I just really looked into what happened.

It's, it's World War II is pretty much the culminating event of so much of human nature. And I learned about tyrannical takeovers from the Soviet side or the Nazi side. And that's why I homestead because it's all about dependence. It's like, that's how they, that's how they get you in a FEMA camp or a train car or something. Every one of those camps was like about food and shelter. And then you start dying. Then it starts getting abusive because, so I'm like, okay, the key is don't be dependent.

You know, most people die from exposure, disease. That's all about food quality, water quality. And so big armies don't really go to small towns. They go to like big cities. Dude, it's pretty wild when you look at how dependent we are just living in a house. You rely on air conditioning, energy, food, gas. You're all depending on someone else. Yeah. And then look at all the SSRIs.

Like imagine if just the prescription drugs stopped in America. Just imagine that. Like the amount of people on antidepressants who are on all these drugs. And then, yeah, you have no heat, you have no water. You know, they say there were nine meals away from revolution at all times. Wow.

Nine meals. When you put it that way, that is mind blowing. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, that's mind blowing. So that's why I'm like milking goats and cows. People were calling me insane. Cause I had like a good Hollywood career. I was like in sitcoms and movies and stuff.

And people genuinely thought I like went crazy and now they don't. They're like, oh, I see it. I'm like, you know, me and my four kids are like making cheese and- Yeah, you had the foresight back then. Yeah, but it was like I was forced into it because I wouldn't compromise on my ethics as a comedian. So I'm like, I have to do my job properly. Yeah, but it was like I was forced into it because I wouldn't compromise on my ethics as a comedian So I'm like I have to do my job properly. They're like well then you're not allowed to make money doing this and

You have to wear a mask. I'm like, I'm never wearing a mask, right? You know, I never wore one once and then it's like oh you can't go in the grocery store. I'm like How do you grow food? You know and I just did Now we have a hundred chickens and alpacas and cows and goats and ducks. And my kids live in like a Norman Rockwell painting, you know? Yeah, that mass programming was well put together, man. It's crazy.

They got a lot of people on that one. Yeah, and I always thought my degree was not useful, like history of tyrannical takeovers. Yeah. And my dad taught rhetoric, persuasion, mass communication, and my mom taught children's literature. And I'm like, none of this stuff is ever going to be useful. And then I'm like, I know so much about all this, about how just changing the rule every day is like a psychological

brainwashing technique, where it's like, okay, wear the mask to the table, then you can take it off. There's no logic. And the more you submit to the Simon Says stuff, the more it's like literally becoming hypnotized. Right. And there was levels to that. They were saying microchips were planned, you know? Yeah, yeah, totally. So they had a whole plan.

It seemed really planned out, honestly. Yeah, yeah. Like it seemed like they were planning that for years. And I think they failed at the big goals. I think social media helped, right? Absolutely. It doesn't take a lot. That's the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. It's like, show me 10 and I won't burn the city.

Show me five. It has to get down to where everyone's in or else they have to bail. Because it's like, this is a free will realm. It helps me not have victim consciousness where it's like our free will and our consciousness always requires that like I'm in, even if it's subtle. You know, and people are like,

well, I had to take the Vax, you know, cause my job, I'm like, you don't need the job, get another job or like don't go on the cruise or whatever. I think they were taking advantage of people that were relying on money cause 62% of people live paycheck to paycheck. Yeah, well, that's why I'm not a hypocrite. I'm building social networks where people can like help each other in those situations. Cause I'm going to the track. Yeah, well, that's why I'm not a hypocrite. I'm building social networks where people can like

help each other in those situations. Cause I'm going to the source. It's like, I'm not going to sit here and be like, oh yeah, money doesn't matter. And it's like, dude, I have a credit card debt. I get, you know, so if you have a good social network, I used to say no 10 people within 10 miles. It's like, they won't let you fall.

It's like you can crash on someone's couch, try and get another job. You know, you chip in together with co-op food. My mom used to do that. We'd get like a crate of food with a bunch of other ladies. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, there's ways. It's like, when there's a will, there's a way,

it's really true. Damn. And so sometimes you don't become free until, like I had a buddy that wouldn't wear a mask as a SWAT officer He was like a Marine. He knows all about torture techniques. It's it's the mass things nuts. Yeah, and And he was fired. He has a ton of kids, but he wouldn't do it He's like I will not do that and now he has a thriving gun company as like his gun was in John Wick

It's like wow. Yeah, it's like one of the most epic guns ever right out of Idaho You know, so like you never know when your story starts. I was telling that to my kids that something really bad usually happens at the beginning of every good movie because that's when your story starts. You know, and that's, it's like, you don't just have a great day and go on a hero's journey. Yeah, it's not all uphill.

No, you're like, that's why the bad thing happens. And then you're thrust into a journey. And how you handle that is, you know, rather you're a hero or you fail. That's so true. And a lot of people have that victim mindset with the bad thing happens. Yeah, the bad thing happens.

You're like, who do I blame? Who owes me money? Yeah. Versus like, go on the hero's journey. Like, look at Tolkien or look at any of this stuff. It's like, something changes. And then now it starts. That happened to me.

I was totally content being a comic working in Hollywood and it's like, you know, you have a baby, you get kicked off all this stuff, what now? I started doing tree work with my brother again, started rebuilding and now it's like, I can't imagine it not have happening. Damn, to go from that peak to doing tree work. Yeah, one day I went from 20 grand an hour

to $20 an hour. Holy crap. Yeah, and people were like, but I have kids. I'm like, I had just had a kid and my wife, and then we're just like starting our second and now we have four kids, single income. Like my wife's a stay at home mom. And it's like, I still know we would've made it work though.

Like I could, like now I teach piano again. Like I'm back to being a piano teacher, which is, it just, it's psychologically awesome for me to teach piano. Because sometimes I can get in the weeds with like spell breaking and comedy, and I'm like, I wanna teach people how to play the piano. So I do that now.

So. Piano's a good instrument, man. I played a little bit growing up. Yeah, you're half Chinese, you have to. Oh yeah, my mom smacked the shit out of me when I messed up. Yeah, Tiger Moms did. Yeah, but I needed that, man. I was a wild kid.

Yeah. You know, I needed some discipline because my parents got divorced, so. They did? Yeah. Why? They never really told me, but I mean, it's a coin flip these days, right?

So, it's not like it's uncommon. Yeah, that's a bummer, man Yeah, yeah without a father figure as a guy. It's definitely definitely tough. I see that a lot Yeah, a lot of guys, right? Yeah a lot And it's like want some more gravy about the nuclear power Yeah bomb the splitting the atom like the uh, the nuclear family and splitting splitting the I don't know I might be reaching on that. But when it's like splitting the family unit,

I think is the most destructive thing in America, where it's like, that's the fallout. And that's what there was, there was a lot of programming around that, right? Like that hookup culture. Beyond, yeah, so like the feminist stuff where it's like, you'd be more empowered at a job. But it's not true at all. A woman is the most empowered when she's at home, like with people that love her.

And she has the most control. She decides so much, you know? Yeah. It's like all the power is at home. And then it's like, and then the dad, they're told to just like hook up with all these chicks and, you know, you're only 40, you have plenty of time. And, and there's nothing like having kids, man. It's like my whole, and I started later.

Like I didn't really think about it. I was just kind of going through the motions. And it's like, I can't imagine now not doing that. It's like the most rewarding thing that's ever happened to me. I've heard that a lot from guys. I can't wait, man. I'm pumped. Couple more conspiracies I want to dive into.

Yeah, let's do it. I was going through your ex. So the moon landing. Yeah. That's an interesting one man. Yeah. What happened there you think? Dude I don't know what happened. All I know is the reason I know that what they showed isn't real is production. You know the camera. So the three astronauts leave and the camera shot tilts up and focuses. And they say that there's no one on the moon. And they say that they did it by remote in negative 200 degrees in a vacuum from Houston, Texas in 1969.

I'm like, anybody in TV production knows that's not even close to possible. Doing that with that camera right now would be super hard. Like from a remote, just you'd have to do like take after take and just all the contradictions and why did it happen? I mean, if I was going to give them the benefit of the doubt, it was keeping hope, keeping entertainment, keeping that, that spirit going as we're getting off the gold standard and there's a cold war with Russia. Or it's almost like a way to get the troops excited, you know?

And then, you know, maybe they spent a lot of money to try and go and they couldn't for some reason, and they wanted to deliver because people were going... There was like race riots then and, you know, on the negative side, you know, psychological operations where it's like the greatest thing that we've ever done you can't do now forever. Yeah. You know, I think about that what that does to the youth. I mean, you're young. It's like, yeah, we went to the moon in 1969 and we can't ever now because we're not as good as them, as the baby boomers, because they had special technology. And it's like, dude, and meanwhile,

Neil Armstrong will brag that they had less tech than an iPhone. So they're like in these young kids' face, like, we did all this with less tech than you have in your pocket. And it's like, so why can't we go back? Well, we had better tech. And that's like a sigh out.

That's like to break your brain where you're like, okay, tell me what food to eat and give me a pill. It's just like, that doesn't make logical sense. Yeah. I always wondered why we never went back. It's been so long, right? That was the number one thing for me. It's like, so every time we explore,

people then go after that. And then people would be like, well, there's no reason to. Like, are you kidding me? Like a Michael Jackson concert on the moon in 1985 would not have been successful. Like why not go to the moon? You know, and then that whole thing, you know, I'm like, yeah, I'm out.

I don't know what you guys did up there, but like, I don't even know what the moon is at this point. Yeah. Cause that's when it gets a little exhausting is when you have to, my friend calls it reading the ingredients. Like once you don't trust, when you're like now I have

to prove everything myself when it was like so much easier to just be like oh yeah NASA doesn't lie you know yeah that's definitely cop yeah who knows what they're doing on mars too I mean who know I mean I'm so far down the road that I'm like I don't even know what mars is you know I think it might be Greenland who knows I've seen some crazy theories on the moon too. Yeah. How it was artificially put there. Yeah, or what it is. Yeah, there's some theories around that.

Dinosaurs, one of the first things they teach us in school. What is your take on those? Nonsense. Imagine telling you if you aren't a kid that 66 million years ago a rock fell from the sky, killed everything that are now chickens. You know, they say, oh, chickens are descended from dinosaurs, really?

So a rock fell from the sky, killed the world, and they evolved into chickens still though. And then they don't really know what to say. And I'm like, did you know how hard it is to solve a cold case from 1970? 66 million years ago. And then you look into who did it and it's nonsense. They've never found a skeleton.

The bones are ground up chicken bones. Like literally it's nonsense. And they were all like a part of the Royal Society, Sir Richard Owen and yeah, I don't know, man. So many siobs. That's such an innocent one, cause kids get so excited about it. And who knows, maybe you find a bone

and someone believes it. Like who knows, maybe you find a bone and someone believes it. Like I'm so far down the road that I try to give people the benefit of the doubt again. Like I was like pissed for a while. And now I'm like, what would I do if you're looking, maybe they think it, like maybe they believe that. And that's fine with me.

So was there a purpose just to create like media out of it? Like what do you think their goal was? I mean, it's fractal. So was there a purpose just to create media out of it? What do you think their goal was? I mean, it's fractal. So on a very base level, there was something called the Bone Wars, where people were competing. Think about now on social media, competing for attention. Back then, it was almost like circus carnies. Come see this monster.

And so on a base level, there was a reason to promote something amazing to look at like oh it's a dinosaur that's 80 feet tall and then I think to make it really really really really really old I don't know I mean it could reinforce it reinforces the fossil fuel the fossil fuel thing is a bit of a Psyop or a peak oil because they say it's from dinosaur bones. So that makes you think that there's no more. Like it's like running out all the time.

I remember growing up, they said we'd be out of gas in 20 years. Yeah, that's the thing. I'm 44 now. It's all, I grew up with them saying it's margarine was gonna save your heart. And then they're like margarine causes heart attack. And you're like, the food pyramid I was raised with

as a kid is now completely the opposite. They're like margarine causes heart attack. You're like the food pyramid I was raised with as a kid is now completely the opposite. Yeah. They're like eat mostly bread and just a little bit of meat because that's what makes you like sick. And it's just like and the kale was on the grocery counters to like show other products. And then people told you to eat the kale. And I'm like, you guys don't know. It's a super food. Yeah, it's great.

Cheerios is good for your heart. What is, oh, cheerios. All of it, yeah. While there's glyphosate and stuff. Dude, it's insanity, bro. It's insanity. Yeah, and they program these at such a young age that you don't really question it.

No, having kids has showed me so much. That's why I don't even tell them about the moon landing. Like, I'm not like, oh, it's a lie. I'm just like, what do you think? What do you think the moon is? Like what, and then I try and give them benefit of the doubt where it's like, oh, your teacher may not be lying. It might be what they were taught.

Right. I'm like, because there's more of a chance that it was dragons than dinosaurs. I mean, look at Chinese coins and stuff. There's dragons on there, there's dragons in England. But like, that's preposterous to think that there were dragons. But yet 66 million years ago,

there was a stegosaurus with plates on his back. And I was just like, what? Yeah, pretty wild times, man. Yeah, and then they're now adding feathers and they pretend like they didn't, used to not have feathers. That's what always gets me when it's like, are we all just gonna pretend that, you know,

dad's not drunk again? You know what I mean? It's like, we can see what they're doing and they won't even acknowledge that they had just changed it again. That's like that gaslighting stuff that, that's why I don't permit any of it. You know, that's why I'm kicked off Airbnb.

And it might've just been someone who loves dinosaurs or like oh f this guy Dinosaur I love dinosaurs. Where are you out with the alien stuff? I've no I just I have no idea. Okay. I see aliens is like people from other countries Yeah, I'm so it could be so many things man. I think you know, there's a spiritual realm I think that there's like influence in a realm we can't see, like whether it's demons or angels or whatever, but I don't know man. It could be a Psy-Op, it could be advanced tech that they don't show the people. You know, looking into Antarctica was always fascinating about Hitler going to

Antarctica and the whole war was fought in the 30s in Antarctica and the tech they might have had Yeah, I haven't looked into that. So Hitler went there though. Yeah, there's a Nazi base in Antarctica. Wow. Yeah Why would they put it there? They claim it was to get oil from whales oil from whale Yeah, it's like Patrick Bateman lying, you know where it's like I have to return some videotapes It's like so you're fighting a war and you'd go to Antarctica to get like whale oil. So again, I don't know, as I get older, the more I just admit this

stuff, there's no way I can get to the bottom of, you know, like the alien thing could be so many things. It's just the other, the concept of the other. Yeah, I know there's tech that exists that is mind blowing. And I think some of it is that

like a rotating disk. Like there's this great English engineer that showed that where if you If you spin a disc it like lowers the weight of it and he was kicked out of the Academy damn Yeah, so there's something with that, but I don't know. I'm not I don't have the I Could look into it, but I'm not an engineer. You said you were into physics, right? I was yeah professor Have you looked into quantum physics? Yeah, I can't wrap my brain around it. I think it gets spiritual. I think it goes full loop where it becomes spiritual again.

That's what I'm digging too. Yeah, one of my close friends is a professional physicist from Caltech and he does my podcast sometimes. I'll hook you up with him, he's a cool dude. But the real dudes, like those dudes, are the first to admit that the very big and the very small, they have no idea.

Like they've never seen an atom. They just see what happens to it when you throw stuff at it. You know, they don't know, like an electron is like a field of possibilities that creates an effect. It's not like you picture just a thing flying around it, but that's not, that's never been shown. It's just Jimmy Neutron taught me that Yeah, it makes you wonder how much of science is like just out of primitive level that they're teaching right now And there's a much bigger thing up. Yeah, no 100%

I think that there's way way bigger technologies, which is crazy, right? Crazy. Holy crap I think World War two had a lot of that in it. Like I think they were battling over, yeah, who controlled certain technologies. I mean, talk about NASA, NASA with Project Paperclip, I mean, this is totally declassified. Those were all the Nazi scientists came here and started NASA.

And I think a big part of NASA is what they discovered was social engineering techniques. Wow. Yeah, with like symbolism and mythology, like the Trinity site, you know, like why use a religious term? That's so crazy because when you think of NASA, you think of space. Yeah. You don't think of programming. Right, but there's three men, like the first one Apollo, it's named after a god, Apollo.

And then you go up there, you have a Trinity right there. You have the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit that's circling. Everything's about symbolism and tethering to that deep Jungian archetype. So crazy, man. Well, Owen, it's been cool, man. I can't wait to live the Homestead lifestyle one day. I'll be texting you for advice.

Yeah, and I'll give it, I'm telling you, man, the past is the future. It's coming back. Yeah, I definitely wanna at least have it on the the side like somewhere I could go to three months a year You know yeah, or just wherever you live. Just keep it like have it just be like You don't have to go full I don't just just have some chicken some garden stuff like that because the food you can't get food like that at spa Go it's like it's way better food. Yeah, so my favorite animal has always been the panda

You have an interesting take on what's going on with them. Yeah, I didn't want to bring up pandas because of your lineage But I don't think pandas are real Why I think they're real the way a Shih Tzu dog is real, you know, you guys made the Shih Tzu dog Isn't that from China? I think so. Yeah Okay, a panda ovulates for three days a year. And you're going to become a husband one day and you're going to be procreating. That's crazy. So a woman, like a human, ovulates for a day or two a month.

A panda only eats or defecates all day long. It doesn't care for its young. It's a group of pandas is called an embarrassment of pandas. Pandas don't exist in Chinese literature or art before they were discovered by the Jesuits and they're loaned to America and all in China owns all the pandas in the world.

And there was something called China panda diplomacy. They're also like retarded. Like all they do is just fall down they only eat bamboo they can't fight off predators they're called an embarrassment of pandas they don't ovulate they don't take care of their young I mean they're they're ridiculous Wow so you think they were artificially created in the lab basically yeah that is you want to know why I think so? Why? Because bamboo is one of the hardest things to clear. I think they were made to clear bamboo. Wow. Yeah.

Cause clearing bamboo is so hard. It grows really fast, really hard. All they do is eat and I tried to find a panda that I could actually touch. There's only one spot in China and you can't even get tickets. I think it's a front. They know. Wow. You like pandas, huh? Thanks for ruining my childhood, man. What do you like about pandas?

Well, as a kid, I just thought they were cute. Every kid thinks, just like we were talking about all the other stuff, it's like kids, you show a kid a panda and they're like, I love that thing and it's fake. Wow. Well, cool. Where can people keep up with your show and keep up with you? OwenBenjamin.com, I have Comedy Central's outside of the system. So I actually did all this stuff.

So it's like, we shot our own specials without Netflix, Comedy Central, any of that. And so I sell them directly on my website. My newest one is completely clean. It's like family friendly, which again, clean is the future after I went through the end wars. And then I'm Owen Benjamin on Twitter, but I'm also a Bertaaria Times social media app. And yeah, I'm starting to teach piano again, which is cool. Well, thank you. You're calling me for piano lessons.

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