Digital Social Hour - Wildest Scenes, Dating & Performing Under Pressure I Spencer Michael Barrick I Damon Dice DSH #377

Episode Date: March 27, 2024

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relation because a lot of the people they're in relationships you serious yeah so i'd say most stars are actually have boyfriends or girlfriends no way so you know i've had days i show up set and a girl's fighting with her boyfriend she brings that to set it makes my day tough because someone's like you know i'm very like in tune with people's feelings yeah yeah um so i can you know if they're having an off day, I got to be able to fight through that. Yeah. Wherever you guys are watching this show, I would truly appreciate it if you follow or subscribe. It helps a lot with the algorithm. It helps us get bigger and better guests, and it helps us grow the team.

Truly means a lot. Thank you guys for supporting, and here's the episode. Ladies and gentlemen, we got Spencer Barrick here today, a.k.a. Damon Dice. How's it going? It's going great, man. How's work been lately? Work's been good. It's keeping me young.

It's the fountain of youth. How often are you filming? Right now, I'm about 10 to 12 scenes a month. Okay. And are those all shot in a short period of time, or do you spread them out? Usually, I'll do a week on, week off. Okay. So this is my, actually my week on starts tomorrow for the next few days, next five days.

So you'll be busy. Yeah. So today's my kind of prep day. And I treat my job as I've been an athlete my whole life. Yeah. So I look at what I do as being a professional athlete of sex. You got to be in good, good shape,

you know? Yeah. It's, you definitely don't want to be out of shape on set. Not only is it the aesthetics of it, but it's, you know, conditioning, flexibility, just overall strength and just like, what's that? Stamina. Stamina. Yeah.

Yeah. Cause like, if you're the scenes that we're doing on set or like 30 to 45 minutes of like, it's hardcore too for the most part. So it's like on average people are going like five, 10 minutes. Bro. So it's like, we got to have that stamina and that endurance to really,

you know, take it that extra. Yeah. How can guys watching this increase their endurance? Cause most guys last two, three minutes. Yeah. So a few tips for guys,

um, again, being an athlete, what you put in your body, the fuel you put in your body, so that really matters. Like you can't be eating like fatty foods, sugars, alcohols, eating clean, eating healthy, a lot of fruits and veggies because it helps with blood flow. Oh, yeah. Some fruits and vegetables that kind of help me out with stamina and endurance are celery juice is actually my secret. Really? Yeah. So celery juice increases blood flow. It also increases the

load size. Oh, okay. Interesting. I'm going to try that out. And watermelon has something called lycopene in it, which also gives you a little extra to go. I have heard that about watermelon actually yeah so i just i just compare a lot to being an athlete and you know staying hydrated is the biggest thing because a lot of guys you know they'll just go fast out the gates they'll get gassed yeah and once you're like gas you start getting hot and overheating that's when you lose that bro sometimes you cramp up if you're not hydrated too yeah cramps happen i've had shoots where like you cramped up cramp middle set of like uh it's tough but yeah you gotta fight through it sometimes you know yeah has there any been any shoots where um you just couldn't get turned on well i've shot over 1200 scenes professionally in my this is my 10th year yeah um yeah there's been some scenes that have been tough. Um, it's, it's again, like it's 90% mental, I'd say 10% physical with it.

Okay. Because every person I shoot with, you know, they might be having a bad day coming in. Like, you know, maybe they're, their dog died or something, or like, you know, they're having relation because it's something that a lot of the people they're in relationships. You serious? Yeah. So I'd say most are actually have boyfriends or girlfriends also no way so you know i've had days i show up set and a girl's

fighting with her boyfriend she brings that to set and makes my day tough because someone's like you know i'm very like in tune with people's feelings yeah yeah um so i can you know if they're having an off day i gotta be able to fight through that yeah um so also someone i grew up watching very heavily was michael jordan and kobe bryant um so i i've really kind of encapsulated their mentality in the mamba mentality in the bedroom yeah so it's like you know if if i'm not all there like say like you know the girl's having an off day and she's just you know not feeling it like i got to kind of just block that out and just make sure that I'm doing the best scene I can do and making sure she's having a good time

and she's comfortable on set. Wow. So yeah, it's definitely tough. And then the mentality side of it, it's like sometimes in Vegas in the summer, I'm shooting a scene, it's a hundred degrees outside, a hundred degrees plus, you know, I got to really tune in and block everything out. It hundred degrees plus, you know, I, I gotta really tune in

and block everything out. It's like, it's like, I'm sweating, I'm dying. Like, but I'm just like, you know, I gotta tough it out. It's definitely mental fortitude with some of the things we do. How much creative control do you have on set now that you've established a name? Yeah. So it just really depends on the company, um, creative control with, uh, the scene. So a lot of the times in, in shoots and scenes, we will do still pictures. So we'll take actual photo pictures of the sex positions. It's kind of a rehearsal or a walkthrough basically. So it's kind of like you're going to a football game on a Sunday.

You do a walkthrough of your place. Okay. So we'll do a walkthrough of the positions that we're going to do from start to finish. And we'll take pictures of it. Wow. That'll go in like the thumbnails on the websites okay and on social media um so we'll do a walkthrough and then we will have do the video after that wow i didn't know that yeah so a lot of the times it'll more or less be scripted on the positions we're going to do in what order um there's certain

companies uh one of the companies i've been shooting for a lot lately is called balessa which is a newer it's it's about five years old. It's the number one adult site for women in the world. Um, it's about 95% women that use that website. Um, so for that company, it's not scripted, uh, positions. The directors are like, they tell us to have sex on how we'd have sex at home. Oh, nice. So it's like not following any certain protocol.

Like we just, as performers, we just do what we would normally do at home. Nice. So you like that more? I like that more because it's more natural. Yeah. A lot, what a lot of people don't realize on sets and porn in general, it's not real life sex. So I'll tell people like, if they're like trying to learn about sex, don't watch. Because a lot of things that I'm doing for like browsers and all these sites, it's like very acrobatic and I'm flipping the girl over, toss them around.

It's not, it's definitely not at home sex. Yeah. And a lot of people do learn from it. And yeah. And, and like, I would say, you know, you can learn some things, but don't, don't, this is professional. Don't try this at home type thing. But, um, yeah, it's just different nuances. Like even again, like the sports analogy, like I've watched other performers in the past to see what they do. Like some of the top guys, guys that have won the avian performer of the year. So I'm learning from, I've learned from the best watching them or even like, you know, them giving me advice over the years. Nice. So

it's a, it's definitely a learning curve to that. How do you win that? Is that like a fan votes? Um, so for the AVN and XBiz, it's, uh, like there's, uh, it's like press and panels. Yeah. So the media chooses. It's basically like, like Grammys or Emmys. Oh, got it.

Yeah. So it's not a fan vote. They, they do have a fan vote aspect, but it's but it's like the writers that are in the adult industry, the editors, they kind of have their own little guild in which they vote the performers of the year. Have you ever won that? I've never won performer of the year. I've been nominated a bunch of times.

This year, I have nine nominations. Damn, you're killing it this year. So for the award season comp this year, I have several scenes nominated for best sex scene. Wow. Best threesome scene for best sex scene. Wow. Best threesome scene. Best VR scene. VR scene?

Virtual reality. So that's a thing? Yeah. So imagine this is the camera right here. It's basically POV, but in virtual reality. Wow. So like all the actions going on in front of me. Oh, so you put on the goggles?

No. So let's just say this is a camera right here. Yeah. And the girl is here. My partner's here. So so it's all like it's basically a pov oh wow but it's high tech but your point of view yeah so the consumer they're putting on the vr goggles to actually watch that right which is pretty wild but yeah so they think they're having sex basically yeah it's you're you're up in it wow yeah interesting Yeah. Interesting. Is that like a hot, like what are the hottest categories right now, you think? I would say VR.

It's been around for, I've been shooting VR for like seven years now. Oh, really? Yeah. I wouldn't say, because that's the thing. It's like even technology and VR in general, like it's the hardware adoption. Like a piece of like good hardware, like the Oculus. Costs a lot. I guess like $500 to $ like 500 to a thousand dollars yeah yeah so

that's not a mass uh mass product where a lot of people have it so it's kind of niche yeah um i mean it's easier for someone just go on their laptop or their phone and watch it like that yeah you know at such a lower barrier of cost yeah so what do you think gets like what gets so what's hot what's hot now um i do know that in 2021 or 22, the number one trending, because I don't know if you're familiar with ****, every year they do the top trending categories on top trending searches and what people are watching every year. They even do it state by state.

So it's crazy. If you look at the map sometime of top trending things on **** in the US, just the things in the different states it's just mind-blowing the things that people in alabama watch compared to the things that people in utah watch is just like yeah and there's some things on there it's like what like people actually watch this the stepsister stuff yeah the stepsister stuff yeah that's um i'd say that was bigger the the kind of taboo and family style stuff was bigger about five years ago. Okay. Right now, I'd say a big trend is actually romance.

Romance? Romance is making a big comeback right now. Just like real authentic romance? Real authentic romance, yeah. Okay. Yeah, so that was one of the top trending, I believe, a year or two ago. Wow. And that's kind of a Balesa one where it's like more realistic.

It's more, they calla one where it's like more realistic it's more they call it ethical um because it it's just are you interested in coming on the digital social hour podcast as a guest we'll click the application link below in the description of this video we are always looking for cool stories cool entrepreneurs to talk to about business and life click the application link below and here's the episode guys it's not scripted as much as just real life like it's like what the performers would do naturally the scripted stuff is so whack to me dude yeah it's cheesy oh dude i've i've done i've done some cheesy i really have like it's like looking back like i don't regret anything but there's definitely

some shoots i'm like damn like the police officer one? You can name it. I've been there. You've done it? Yeah. Name off 10 things. Like, yeah, police officer, dentist, teacher. Doctor. Doctor.

You name it, man. I've been a space alien. I've been stepbrother. Now I'm like, you know, I'm a little older. I'm 35. Now I'm playing some stepdad roles. Have you done the furries uh no furries but i did shoot a christmas special like a year and a half ago yeah and they dressed me up like uh rudolph

i might count that dude and i was like when i showed for the the movie like i didn't know like i didn't know i was gonna be be dressed up. I'm like, here's your costume. I'm like, really? And I was like, God, I hope no one sees this. And then that f***ing scene got nominated for one of the scenes of the year for parody. I'm like, oh, God. And they started blasting it, promoting it. I'm like, here's me in a reindeer costume. I'm like, great. It's going on the internet forever.

So what was the girl wearing? I think for that movie, I was with miss claus so she was miss claus and you were a reindeer yeah there was like a miss claus there were some elves involved that's some bestiality i guess but it wasn't like yeah it was kind of on his parody yeah what's the wildest was that the wildest thing you've done or is there crazier oh the wildest thing jesus um oh can i say on camera um nothing done anything illegal um the wildest thing i've done on camera wildest shoot 1200 shoots i know that's what i'm saying it all it's it all blends in at this point right Right. Um, Hmm. This one time I, so they, uh, a lot of the parodies are like kind of based on like Marvel movies.

Yeah. Um, so this one shoot, it was a feature movie for a wicked and it was the movie of super girl, like based off super girl. And I was brainiac. If you're familiar with that character or maniac. No, I haven't seen him. Basically a green space alien that uses his brain only to like,

that's his superpower. Oh, yeah. He talks like through his brain. Oh, telekinesis? Telekinesis. Yeah. So he does that. So for that, I was in hair and makeup for six hours.

Holy. So for that, they shaved my head completely bald. Jeez. Painted me head to toe in green. And like, I had like custom made armor and like, I had these, um,

like contact lenses and like, I was completely alien. Uh, so please tell me you got a bag for that at least. Yeah. Uh, well this was like one of the first features I did. Um,

I thought I got paid a lot at that time. I was like, I was like, it's all relative. Yeah. It's all relative. So like, there's definitely,

uh, in the industry, different,. Yeah, it's all relative. So like, there's definitely in the industry different, I guess, kind of pay levels or pay grades with that. So when I first started out, man, I was like, when I was making

like $200, $300 a scene, I was like, damn, that's a lot of money. At that time, you know, 10 years ago,

being a broke entrepreneur, I was like, that's some good money. So now it's like, I'm not going to leave the house for anything less than $1,000. Yeah. The top ones make a lot. Like, they're making like, that's good money. So now it's like, I'm not going to leave the house for anything less than a thousand. Yeah. The top ones make a lot.

Like they're making millions, right? The top, uh, the top, top female are. Oh, female.

Yeah. The, the, the adult industry, like the most consumers are men. Yeah. So the women are the ones, the,

the breadwinners per se, um, men can shoot, we can shoot more. So say like, you know, some guys are shooting 20 days a month. I used to like five years ago, shooting 20 days a month, but I'm getting too old. I just, I got my businesses I'm working on too. So I don't have like the time to be shooting that much. So it's a volume game for guys you're saying? Yeah. So like the women can't shoot as much per month because they, you know, taken a pounding like that, I guess, uh, a lot, you know, these guys, a lot of the guys in this

are pretty well endowed. So, you know, you can only take that so much as a female. Um, you, you have their, uh, their, um, cycles in it as well. So, you know, they're losing a few days to a week from that. Yeah. I didn't even think about that actually. Some girls still have sex on their period too. Yeah, they do.

And here's a trick that the industry has for if a girl's on her period sometimes and she still wants to shoot. Yeah. They'll put a makeup sponge. No way. Up there.

It blocks the bleeding. But then she won't feel it, right? Sometimes you can feel it. Wow. Sometimes you can't. Sometimes it's a little tug of Then she won't feel it. Right. Uh, sometimes you can feel it. Wow. Sometimes you can't sometimes it's a little, little tug of war with the sponge in there, but it's kind of gross. Yeah. It's uh, I guess you get used to it.

Oh God. But yes, it's a, it's a volume game. So like the men can shoot more. Yeah. Uh, we're getting paid a little less, but I guess for professional shooting, it kind of equals out for the top level guys And girls OnlyFans, that's where the real difference maker's at That's what I heard

Some of my peers are making six figures Quarter million a month I don't know any guys making that Actually, Tyga, right? Tyga, yeah Tyga's doing that, but he's He's a celebrity Mainstream artist

For actual male p*** What about that's about it tiger's doing that but he's he's a he's a celebrity celebrity mainstream artist for actual like mail yeah what about uh what's his name the top male johnny johnny says yeah johnny sends probably making six figures a month on only fans but he's like the michael jordan right so it's like that's the goat right yeah the and why uh just kind of looking at the marketing aspect of why johnny sins really blew up, kind of a case study. So Johnny Sins, he's been in the industry for, I don't want, I'd say like 15 years now. Yeah. And when he came on the scene is when social media, Instagram, Twitter first kind of came on. Right.

So when Instagram and Twitter were starting up in like, was it 2010, 11-ish? I was in high school. It was a while ago. In that range, he was like the top at that time. Instagram and Twitter were starting up in like, was it 2010, 11 ish? I was in high school. It was a while ago. In that, in that range, he was like the top at that time. So all these memes and he's got a very unique look, bald head, good looking guy. So, you know, he, when the memes first started, like he was like one of the first memes ever. So Johnny Sins was like on that wave of virality and social media. Yeah.

So he's just kind of stuck. Like he's been there since that. Yeah. And even with like Michael Jordan, they, with athletes, they were never really endorsing athletes like that. Athletes weren't the brand, you know, like Michael Jordan was the first one to really take it to the next level

and have his own shoe, have his own product and have like a brand propped up off of his name. Yeah. So there's like a Michael Jordan effect. Like that's kind of how I look at it. Absolutely. How often do you have to get tested? So we get tested every 12 to 14 days. Wow. Yeah. So actually I have to test today after, after this, I got to go. So for the pre-test. Yeah. So we have to test every 12 to 14 days. That's what I'm like, one of the misconceptions with the adult industry is like us as adult stars were, were dirty or we're like walking STDs. We're actually like a safer pool of like people

to have sex with than like the general population. Wow. Yeah. Because we're all self police. We all test. So every time I shoot a scene, my co-star has to be tested within the 12 to 14 day period. Yeah.

And we're getting blood taken. Damn, it's a blood test? Blood test, urine, oral swabs as well. That's intense, man. Yeah. So it's like we're testing for everything under the sun. Wow. Yeah.

You mentioned the, no, go ahead. Yeah. So it's a very safe, very like strict protocol with that. Wow. Yeah. Do you have any limits on set? Like is there certain things you won't do uh yeah certain things I won't do um I I don't like doing things that degrade women okay like I like to be like you know empowering women so I'm not like slapping them throwing around like

because I do realize that younger people can be watching like younger like you know 18 19. yeah um younger people can be watching that and I don't you know, 18, 19, um, younger people can be watching that. And I don't want to be giving off something that's gonna, you know, just has that bad vibe. Like I want to do things that, you know, again, I tell people not to watch to learn what to do in the bedroom. Um, but if your people are watching, like I want to be able to set like somewhat of a good example and to show things that might work in the bedroom for them. Um, so yeah, anything too aggressive. Um, but that's the thing also like a big nuance of consent, um, because there are certain companies like kink.com. If you're

familiar with that, which is like, like hardcore BDSM, like bondage whips, like people are actually like getting smacked and like, you know, signing some waivers. Yeah. Oh, a hundred percent. So you're signing waivers for that. You just signed waivers. We signed waivers for every shoot we do. Um, that's another thing with the adult industry is we signed two, two, five

sevens, which, you know, shows that we are of age, so there's no worries with like sex trafficking or people under age shooting is very restrictive in that aspect of it, um, before every shoot, we do a, um, a checklist of, uh, things like do's and don'ts, we call it. So we like me and my performer co-scene partner, we'll sit there and we'll go down a list of 50 different things. And, you know, like, I like this, I don't like that. It's like hair pulling, like how, how hard can I pull your hair? So we really discuss it in depth. Dang. Before a scene. I didn't know that.

It didn't used to be like that because there were some instances, you know, over the past decade where there were some performers that got a little aggressive. And those do's and don'ts weren't really discussed beforehand. Got it. So with this, there's no gray area because we discussed it beforehand. It's all like recorded on camera. Like it's very safe. So like no boundaries are pushed where anyone's uncomfortable.

Got it. And will you shoot with other guys or are you only girls? I only have sex with women. Yeah. Okay. But like in terms of three ways. Yeah.

Yeah. Three ways I've done that. Okay. Yeah. So you'll do that, but just not like other. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I feel that. Yeah. Those three ways. I feel like like other yeah yeah yeah i feel that yeah those three ways i feel like those get a ton of views yeah the three was get a bunch of views um it's different because people are like how do you like i i don't know it's because like a lot of the guys in the industry were like friends yeah we're homies so it's just like you're doing that with the homie like it's not like a random dude yeah yeah i feel like if it was a random it'd be a little weird yeah it's a little weird because that's like i'm kind of particular on like who i'll do scenes like that with if it's like some random dude i don't know a new guy like i don't know you're not doing it yeah like and i just don't

know like a lot of the guys in the industry like we're a lot of the top guys in the industry or have been around for a long time yeah like even me even me in at 10 years, there's a handful of guys that have been around for 20 plus years. Damn. That are like elite, like top level performers. Yeah. I'd say for every solid male performer in the industry, there's like 50 girls. Wow. So we're a very small pool, very like tight knit.

It's funny because I have a lot of friends that are pro athletes. Yeah. And they're just so like, how do you do this? Like our group of the elite performers is smaller than like, say, like NBA All-Stars or NFL All-Stars. Is that small? Yeah, because it's not. Yeah, I'd say like 15 to 20 guys are like, I'd say elite in the industry. I feel like it's tough as a guy to make a name for yourself in that industry.

It is. It took me took me again 10 years and it took me about i'd say like four or five years wow i was making moves like three four years in but like i'd say i felt like myself personally i made it like five years in and what was that was it specific moment yeah so um my favorite adult star when I was in college was Rachel Starr. Yeah. And then I shot a scene with her on – I remember it was a Halloween scene. And like I shot with her and I was like, oh, my God, I'm shooting with like the girl that I used to love watching. So that was my I made it moment when I shot with Rachel Starr.

Nice. Another I made it moment was definitely shooting with like legends like Alexis Texas. Yeah. Like Brandy Love, Asa Akira. Damn, these are some big names, man. Yeah.

Alexis Fox. I mean, and you name it. Wow. Dude, that's crazy. People used to watch you're working with now.

Yeah, it's wild. It's just like, again, like the athletes. Yeah. They're playing against guys that they grew up watching.

That's true. LeBron all the time. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And do you get super nervous when it's someone you used to watch yeah so when i when i shot with rachel starr i was like i was telling myself like don't be a fan boy don't just act cool play cool i was like hype myself up yeah so when i met her for the first time in person and we're about to shoot the scene i was like hi i'm because my stage name is damon dice i'm like i'm damon

what's your name like i just i pretended i didn't know who the she was it's like obviously it's rachel starr so like i just like times like that again like the first time i shot with like alexis texas legend like i just like play cool because like on the inside like oh my god this is like a legend yeah so again it's you just gotta breathe breathing's a very important aspect in this industry like that's another tip i tell a lot of guys is focus on your breath and your breathing yeah because if you kind of start hyperventilating or lose your breath you people when they nervous, they have shortness of breath. Right.

When you're short of breath or you're kind of not calm here, that affects blood flow and your activity down there. Interesting. So you're saying to take deeper breaths? Yeah. So I'm actually into meditation. Yeah. Since I've been practicing meditation for the past five years now. Wow.

Like it's significantly helped out my performance damn really yeah because there's a lot of those times like i said you know say we're shooting a scene outside in the like desert 100 degrees like i feel like i'm gonna die right but you know me breathing kind of like all right you're okay you're gonna make it through so just like that tuning out and really kind of focusing and breath is very important because once you lose your breath, you lose your wood. Wow. Yeah.

That's good advice, man. Some people, like we said earlier, it lasts like two minutes. Yeah. So like a lot of people, you know, that's one of the biggest issues is like one of the easiest things they can fix. Right.

Because like if you're, you know, think of a time where you hooked up with a girl for the first time, like you're nervous. Yeah. Like you get, you get those get those nerves for sure so whether it's like you're public speaking or giving a presentation or even for sex like taking deep breaths gathering yourself collecting yourself that helps out a lot yeah that makes sense how tough is dating with your profession it makes it tough yeah yeah i've dated both girls that are adult stars and I've dated girls that are not adult stars while I've been in the industry.

Both have their pros and cons. It just makes it tougher overall. Because me personally, like I'm a lover boy. Like I love, I love love. Like I really do. Right. And it makes it tough to share. You know, I've had times where like I lived with a partner. and it makes it tough to share.

I've had times where I lived with a partner and I would go to work and I'd go to a shoot and then I'd come home from my shoot and she's like, how was your day at work? I'm like, how do I? And if it was a really good day, I'm like, how do I answer this? It's tough, man. So it's like, yeah.

So it definitely makes it tough to have like a serious relationship. But again, some like everyone's made differently, you know, like some people are in a monogamy. Some people aren't like it's, there's so many different, I mean, just looking at the adult industry and the people that are in it. Again, like I said, like a lot of people are dating. A lot of people are married with kids, you know so people can separate work and their private life but it's definitely difficult it's more difficult than i'd say your regular nine to five job i don't

think i can do it dude yeah it's to separate that yeah it's tough it's tough it's not i don't want to share i'm not gonna not gonna fake like it's not easy i just don't want to share dude yeah you know what i mean yeah i don't want to share, dude. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, I don't want to share my career. So it's like, when I first got in, I dated a girl that was pretty big in the industry. And I'm like, damn, my girl's getting railed out right now. God. This sucks.

It sounds like you're a student of the game. You really studied how to get there, and you implemented it. Yeah. Yeah. It definitely has its nuances. student of the game like you really studied how to get there and you implemented it yeah yeah it's um it definitely has its nuances it's it's a very unique industry um and and it's it's definitely developed it's a lot different now than it was when i got in 10 years ago oh yeah when i got in 10 years ago there wasn't only fans there wasn't like self content creation like that so we as performers were at the mercy of these big box companies

or the studios like wicked or digital playground um our work was only depending on if we got booked and most of us have agents actually i haven't had an agent for six years now so i'm self independent yeah um but a lot of the performers have agents and it's basically the same business model as like Hollywood. Right. They take 20%. Yeah. 10, 10, 20% deal deals, set up the shoots. But now over the past five, especially over the past three years since and OnlyFans really blew up, a lot of the performers are now self-sufficient.

They don't need to rely on shooting for these big brands or these companies to to perform right like there's no now there's a lot of the big name that they don't even shoot professionally anymore because they're making more from home doing their only fans wow so why go to set why you know be on set all day and you know put your body on the line when you can just be at home and make more money. So there's a lot of performers that have retired and they just shoot content. Interesting. Yeah. So the content creation has definitely been huge. That's something I talk about a lot is kind of the progression of the industry and where it's gone. Again, since everyone was locked in at home, they didn't have things to do.

A lot of people lost their jobs. Yeah. So, um, you couldn't even film it during that time. So yeah, they, there was like a six month period in which the, the adult, like the professional industry shut down because of, uh, so a lot of people were doing their own independent content creation. Yeah. And what's unique about it is that there was a lot of jobs created by

only fans through the pandemic. Cause a lot of people lost their jobs. I couldn't go to work. So it's like, you know, there was hundreds of thousands of people those few years that joined only fans just to survive. Like I've come across, you know, teachers and dentists, any, any line of work, you can imagine both male and female that went to OnlyFans basically for survival. Yeah. I see the teacher one. Uh, it's a shame

because they get fired once they find out. Yeah. I don't know. I've it's tough. Yeah. I get it. I mean, would you want your kids? Yeah. Yeah. It's tough. It's tough. I mean, that's, I don't know how to answer that. Yeah. It's a tough, I think it's case by case, honestly. Yeah. It should tough. I mean, that's, I don't know how to answer that. Yeah, it's tough. I think it's case by case, honestly. Yeah, it should be. And then even like state by state, you know, because if you're in the Bible belt, like you do that in Alabama, like, oh, they're going to nail you to the cross for that one. Yeah.

Yeah. So it just really depends on your situation. It's tough. It's tough. Yeah. Do you get recognized a lot in public? I get a lot of, I get a lot of i get a lot of like i've seen you from somewhere or we've met before i'm like no we haven't met before but you've seen me somewhere

so i get a lot of like oh like we met i'm like no you've watched me before they don't want to admit it right well they don't know because subconsciously again mostly males watch so they're not watching it to watch me they're watching to watch my female co-star true so their focus is on her but i'm just kind of in the peripheral yeah so like they they know they've seen me from somewhere like oh we met or i've seen you like yeah they just don't know and then like oh that's facts i can't think of any guy right now yeah it's like who gives a for sure what do you think of the **** documentary on Netflix? **** documentary on Netflix? It was a fluff piece.

Yeah? Make them look good. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah, that's cool to get your point of view on it because people loved it as consumers. Yeah.

But you're in the industry. Yeah, it was politics. Yeah? Yeah. So why do you think they put that out? Well, **** got into some trouble for like uploading legal content on their site or like legal content was uploaded. Yeah.

So they lost their payment processing systems with MasterCard and Visa. So they got in a lot of trouble. And I think they kind of used a documentary to kind of clean their name up. Interesting. So they still don't have those payment processors back? Visa and MasterCard are still off of. Wow. Damn.

And that's another reason why there's an exodus to OnlyFans because a lot of performers were monetizing on P*****. Yeah. And now they can't. So they went to their campsites or OnlyFans. Wow. That's interesting. Well, dude, it's been fun. It's a beast.

It's conglomerate. They own all of them, right? Oh, yeah. Well, the parent company, they sold it. They sold the company. MindGeek was sold to private investment group. Now it's called ALO. I mean, I have close to a billion views on.

Holy. But I haven't seen a penny of it. What? Yeah. They don't pay you any of that? No. Is it because they're giving you that flat fee up front, so they're deducting it?

Exactly. Yeah. So that's basically what happens is once I shoot a scene, like it goes on the internet. They can use it wherever they want to. And then they keep the rest. 90% of my scenes end up on **** eventually. Wow.

So they made a bag off you. Oh, yeah. I mean, just what's what's uh youtube monetization right now for a million views it depends on the channel but anywhere from 2 to 10k i'd say at least say average 5k yeah so say i say i have a billion views i'm close to a billion so imagine that same business model yeah that's what a million dollars that's more than or is it 10 mil uh i can't even do that it's in the millions yeah it's a lot of money it's like damn if this was on youtube i'd be a millionaire but it's like i

haven't seen a penny of it so and their cpms are probably good because the the products that are advertising are so targeted yeah cpms are great actually yeah yeah um actually hardeen it's a dispenser here in vegas i work with um we on **** and we actually get really good conversions on it. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, it makes sense. Well, dude. It's also a very,

it's very, it's cheaper relative than Instagram ads, Facebook ads, Google ads. Oh, those are so expensive these days. Yeah, like this is a fraction

of the cost. You can't even make money off those these days on most of them. No, so the ROI is actually pretty decent with that. Yeah.

Well, dude, it's been fun. Anything you want to close off with or promote? If you want to find me, I'm on Instagram at Spencer Michael Baric. And all the adult side stuff is on Twitter at Damon Dice. Classic. And you got a condom company, right? Yeah. So I have a condom company called PS.

We are now in Target and CVS nationwide. Okay. We also want – so and CVS nationwide. Okay. We also want, so we started out with the condoms and now we have condoms, lube, wipes, and male enhancement pills. Nice. Let's go. So yeah, check us out.

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