Digital Social Hour - X Monetization Secrets: How I Earned $20K in One Month | Tiffany Fong DSH #1193

Episode Date: February 20, 2025

Unlock the secrets to earning BIG on social media! 💰 In this episode of the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly, we sit down with Tiffany Fong to uncover how she made an incredible $20K in just one... month on X (formerly Twitter). 🚀 From navigating viral tweets to dealing with online controversies, Tiffany shares her journey, insights into crypto collapses, meme coins, and even wild stories about her personal life. 😱   We dive into the highs and lows of monetizing social platforms, the truth behind big payouts, and the ethical dilemmas of sponsorships. Tiffany also spills the tea on her experiences with fake profiles, internet trolls, and her stance on controversial topics like meme coins and OnlyFans. 👀🔥   This episode is packed with valuable insights and behind-the-scenes stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Tune in now to discover how she turned X into her main income source and how you can level up your social media game! 🎯 Don’t miss out—watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets. 📺 Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more eye-opening stories on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🚀   CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Tiffany’s Fake Profile 00:28 - Bitcoin & Ethereum Investments 02:11 - Trump Coin Analysis 05:17 - OnlyFans Earnings 07:22 - Sam Bankman-Fried's Legal Troubles 08:27 - Will Sam Bankman-Fried Get Locked Up? 11:35 - Visiting Sam Bankman-Fried in Jail 13:08 - Where Will You Live After Crypto 14:49 - How Did You Turn Out So Well? 16:19 - Do You Ever Go To China? 17:11 - Growing Up Asian American 19:05 - California Wildfires Impact 21:14 - AB Nominated You of the Year 23:26 - How to Make Money from Tweets 24:21 - Twitter Traffic Strategies 26:00 - Caroline Ellison Insights 30:11 - Diddy List Overview 32:15 - Weirdest Things Elon Musk Has Bought 32:26 - What to Do in Vegas 33:15 - Where to Find Tiffany   APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: jenna@digitalsocialhour.com   GUEST: Tiffany Fong https://www.instagram.com/tiffanyfong https://x.com/tiffanyfong_   LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/   #crypto #smartmoneytactics #printondemand #affiliatemarketing #playtoearn

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Starting point is 00:02:06 You are sugar baby. I know, right? But, um, uh, what was I going to say? Yeah, I've never been to China. Don't speak the language. Don't speak Chinese or Korean. I'm both Chinese and Korean. All right, Tiffany is back.
Starting point is 00:02:23 It's been a while since you've been on and you've been up to a lot, right? Not really. I feel like I'm not doing anything. Well, crypto is back. I think when you came on last time, we were in a bear market. Oh yeah. Shout out to Trump, I guess, for that. Trump for sure.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Yeah. Bitcoin hit an all time high recently. Bitcoin is back above 100K, I think. I hope it keeps teetering, but yeah. Yeah. I think it'll hit, I mean, who knows, but some people are saying 250. I feel like people I know that are super bullish are like, it'll hit a million.
Starting point is 00:02:48 I feel like I'm not as bullish as those people, but I hope it just, I just want the number to go up. Yeah. I'm not gonna pretend to be into the tech. Is that your biggest position, Bitcoin? Yes, yes. Mine is Ethereum, unfortunately. I did buy a lot of ETH and I regret it
Starting point is 00:03:00 because I feel like it's just not fucking moving. It's been so stagnant compared to Solana. I know, I made the wrong bet. Sam Bakeman Fried made the right bet. His Solana bag, I think that was one of their largest holdings. Sam Bakeman Fried was wrong about a lot of things, but he was not wrong about Solana. Yeah, it's back up to in the billions, right?
Starting point is 00:03:16 I know. Did he sell any? Well, the bankruptcy estate sold, like after FTX went bankrupt, the bankruptcy estate sold within the months after the bankruptcy. If they had held on, I mean, every FTX creditor would have been far and above like paid out. Wow. That's how I feel with Celsius too. Cause they gave distributions at the bottom. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So if they held, we would have got everything back. This is true. This is true. So not so they just get to keep all that. Uh, I mean, no, they sold the crypto like at like low prices.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Brutal. Yeah, because they sold one Ethereum was what, like 2000? I think so. Maybe even under that. So half of what it used to be. Brutal, even though it hasn't even gone that much up since then. I know it keeps playing us. It gets to like 3, 4K and then goes back down. I know. You get in the Trump coin?
Starting point is 00:04:03 No, I feel like, okay, wait, when I saw everyone freaking out and saying that, you know, they were up so much, I think I bought literally like $15. I'm not really a big meme coin person, as you can see. $15 is literally nothing. I think I made like, I didn't even actually sell. I think I saw it go up a little bit and then, yeah, but I'm not a big meme coin fan. You're not a fan of the meme coin. I generally think they're like scammy.
Starting point is 00:04:24 It's sort of like, I don't know, we watched like the Hawk to a chick maybe accidentally like scam a bunch of people. I feel like it's just not a good look. And obviously, I mean, since I started my whole social media career covering crypto, I've had a lot of people ask me if I would start my own coin or help out with a coin or promote coins and have been offered a shit ton of money. But I'm just like, I feel like that goes throughout of it can easily get scammy and it's like a slippery slope. So I just stay away from meme coins mostly. Yeah, I think a lot of celebrities, they don't even want to scam.
Starting point is 00:04:53 They just they end up partnering with the wrong people. And then it ends up being a scam. Yes, yes. Like that's not their intention from the start. But I know that like some of these celebrities, like, you know, even like I don't want to like shit talk her. I'm sure she was like a nice person or whatever, but I know that a lot of people that I know like warned her like, Hey, you shouldn't go down this route. You shouldn't whatever.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Jake Paul warned her. Oh, did he? He did. He's actually pissed because he had a podcast deal with her. I heard. Oh yeah. What's happening with that? She hasn't filmed since the incident. She's been radio silent. She must be dealing with legal stuff. She's still asleep. She came back to like have one like very clearly like lawyer written apology, but I feel like some people haven't heard of it.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Yeah. Were you on that X Spaces? I was listening to it. I was in Miami and I did listen to her be like, all right y'all, go to bed or whatever. I've seen some wild theories that that was AI. That wasn't even her. It did almost sound prerecorded. She barely said anything, but I don't know.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Yeah. Who knows? AI is getting really good these days. Too good. They can fake our voices. This is true. It's kind of scary. Yeah, I'm sure there's fake profiles of you actually. Oh, there's a lot of fake profiles of me. On X mainly? Because that's your platform, right?
Starting point is 00:05:53 There's tons on X, but there's tons on like so many different platforms. I get people sending me fake TikToks, fake Instagrams, fake dating profile apps, fake... There was like a fake fucking profile of me on a hooker tripper daddy site. I'm asking about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, I saw that and it looked real. I don't know what app that was, but I don't know what app it was, but they're all like
Starting point is 00:06:15 pictures from my Instagram. So people just be making fake profiles all over the place. So who broke that story? I don't know. I think it was just some random Twitter person that posted a screenshot. I don't know who, but since then, like a few people, well, I don't know, just for context, someone made some like fake profile of me on like some sugar daddy site and then posted it.
Starting point is 00:06:35 And then since then, a lot of people who posted it like have like apologized to me and been like, okay, I looked into a little bit more and like, okay, I don't think it's real or whatever. And they've since posted like long apology threads, but it's like a couple months later. So I'm just like, well, too little too late, but okay. I mean, the average person on Twitter would have just seen that and probably believed it. I know that's the thing.
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Starting point is 00:08:44 And I guess downside with X, the information is so fast. I know this is true. And then people move on to the next story. Things just go viral. I think later X started putting the little community notes on the post, but it's like after it's already gone viral for a little bit, it's just like, well, damage done. Yeah, because you're not getting the update on that community note. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:09:01 You still crushing it on X. You were getting some big payoffs, right? I was. I mean, my biggest payouts were during the election season. I feel like everything went viral during the election season. If you posted anything that was just like fucking like shitting on Kamala, that was very viral. So yeah, I mean, my my pants, it's still like my main income source. But obviously, they're not as good as when it was the election season. But they're still good.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Yeah, 20k a month. I saw. Right. That was my biggest payout. People were infuriated. It's funny, I feel like I've said so many controversial things throughout my like little ex career. Even when I openly began to vocally support Trump, I was like, oh, I'm going to get so many haters from this. I feel like I've never gotten more hate doing anything than post how much money I've made on ex.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Like, I've never seen so many angry people. Well, I think people are pissed because they're making like 50 bucks. I know. But that's the thing, I feel like the reason that I started focusing on X more was because I saw other people posting their payouts and I saw people were able to make like, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:09:54 10K, 11K, whatever, and I was like, oh, that's sick. I should start posting on X more. For me, it was inspirational to see people posting, but for other people, they just get really infuriated. How dare she make more than what I'm making on X. That was the highest X payout I've ever seen, the 20k one actually. Yeah, and I'm not sure maybe that, like, seeing all the vitriol around that post makes me think that, like,
Starting point is 00:10:13 maybe some people are making more, but they are smart enough not to fucking post it. Because I had been posting my X payouts just the whole journey. Like, I've posted some payouts where I made like 53 bucks, and I was like, fuck yeah, I'm going to buy some hot dogs with this. And I posted them consistently and then I only saw the vitriol when they started to become quite high. But-
Starting point is 00:10:29 I mean, 20K is OF numbers. Like you're putting- That's true, that's true. I'm never starting an OnlyFans for anyone. I'm sure you've been offered that. That's one of my like biggest requests. It's like when OF, never, never gonna happen. Is there a dollar amount or just never?
Starting point is 00:10:43 No, never. Really? Same with the meme coin. You're firm on those? Those are just things that I'm just dollar amount or just never? No, never. Really? Same with a meme coin. You're firm on those? Those are just things that I'm just like, I'm never fucking doing that shit. So you got a line with your money line. I think so.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Cause I feel like it's just like cheap cash grabs. It's like, I don't know, for what? Like I don't think it'll drastically impact my happiness and it will tarnish your reputation forever. Yeah, cause once you go down that route of launching a meme coin, like Andrew Tate did, it's kind of like always gonna be there. People are like, what happened to that coin? Have of launching a meme coin, like Andrew Tate did, it's kind of like always going to be there. You know, people are like, what happened to that coin?
Starting point is 00:11:07 Have you launched a meme coin? I have not been offered. Are you going to? No. That's good. I'm similar to you. Like NFT was already tough cause I did launch one of those. And yeah, after experiencing that,
Starting point is 00:11:17 I would never launch a meme coin. Why? How'd it go? It went well for a while, but then the NFT market tanked. And then I was trying my best. And then people get mad at you. Ran through all the money, yeah. Yeah, totally. We had like 10 people on payroll, it was a full business.
Starting point is 00:11:29 And then once you're out of money, like what else are you going to do? Totally. I mean, some people will make money, some people lose money. I'm just sort of like, I don't want to be responsible for anyone who loses money in anything that I do. So I'm just like, hmm. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:38 And I invested in a ton of NFTs and I lost on all of them, I think to be honest. How much did you lose? Probably at least 50K, because I had a mutant ape. I had some blue chip ones. 50K is not the worst I've heard. It's not the worst. That's okay.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Some people lost way more. I lost more money to Celsius. So I lost a lot of Celsius. I've lost way more meme coins actually. Oh really? Yeah. God. I made some on meme coins, but I stopped trading them like two years ago.
Starting point is 00:12:02 I feel like it's just impossible. It's kind of like mentally draining too. Oh yeah. I feel like you, I feel like it gives you so much anxiety. It'd be constantly watching the chart. Yeah. Yeah. I stay away.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Do you have plans on branching out of crypto space or is that kind of going to be your bread and butter? You think? I honestly barely even consider myself in crypto. Like I never really talked about meme coins or anything like that. I was specifically covering like that little saga of collapses, like after Celsius collapsed and FTX collapsed or whatever. So mostly, I don't even think I was covering crypto
Starting point is 00:12:29 in a super positive light. Yeah, I wasn't really boosting. I was just sort of like, yo, let's follow these massive collapses and people losing their money. Because I had lost money for anyone who is unaware. I lost a lot of money to one of those companies, Celsius. So yeah, I don't even consider myself like a native crypto person. I don't plan to like talk about meme coins
Starting point is 00:12:47 or anything like that, unless maybe there's like some massive scam that like I have some personal tie to. Yeah, and I feel like those stories I was interested in because I had personally lost money. Other crypto stories, I'm just sort of like, eh, I don't feel super interested. Well, I don't think there's been big ones like the SPF one. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:13:06 Since that happened. That was huge. I know that was huge. I don't know if anything will be that big again. We'll see. Although I guess with this cycle, we might see some more scammers. I don't know. Probably.
Starting point is 00:13:15 But that that era was nuts because you had the Luna collapse, then Celsius, and then FTX was like the last one to fall, right? Mm-hmm. Yes. So it was just crazy times. What happened to the Celsius founder? Did he get locked up? Oh, he pled guilty and I think his sentencing
Starting point is 00:13:28 is sometime this year. So maybe I'll go to it. Man, he was doing a little podcast tour promoting Celsius. I know. People were buying it. I know, he was all over the place. Yeah, he was, you gotta admit he was good at sales.
Starting point is 00:13:39 He's a dirty little bastard. He is, but he's good at convincing people to invest. So, and SBF was too. Yeah, I guess so. I guess so. Yeah, I don't know which was more convincing. I personally hate the, I hate Alex Michinsky more just because I lost money, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Do you still talk to SBF or no? Oh, we do email every once in a while. He's in prison at MDC Brooklyn or jail. It's technically supposed to be like a pre-trial like holding facility detention center. But yeah, his trial already happened and he's still there because he's working on an appeal and his lawyers are in New York. So yeah, we have emailed. There's like this prison email system called Corlinks and he added me to his little email list or
Starting point is 00:14:18 whatever. But we haven't spoken in a few months and I know that last time we spoke, Diddy had just moved in with him. I saw that. Diddy's in the same unit as SPF. That's so crazy. They're basically, it's not like, most people imagine jail or prison as like these cells with like bunk beds.
Starting point is 00:14:37 But since Diddy and Sam are like very high profile, they're basically in this unit called Four North where it's just like an open floor, dormitory style living plan. And they're basically in this unit called Four North where it's just like an open floor dormitory style living plan and they're sleeping in like these little beds laid out side by side. So they do like interact. I mean I tried to ask Sam about it but I mean Sam was basically just like yeah he's been very nice and kind so far. I'd love to see that conversation. I know I know it's like a little reality show in there. For real. I believe, like another inmate that I'm friends with,
Starting point is 00:15:06 I befriended a few inmates who had just come out of MDC Brooklyn that were in there with SBF. One of them told me that Luigi Mangione is now in that unit. No way. So it's like a fucking star-studded little unit. Oh my gosh. I know. I'm going to interview one of them at some point soon,
Starting point is 00:15:21 or one of the people who got out of MDC to talk about it. So. That'd be a good one. A Luigi interview would break the internet. I think that'd be sick if someone could get that somehow. Can you visit them and like interview them or is that not allowed? I want to try to visit Sam at some point, but he has to he has to like get me approved or whatever. There's like a, an approval system. So you can't just like walk in and visit, but they have to like get you approved and stuff. Yeah. I've seen Patrick by David interview. I forget who, but it was from
Starting point is 00:15:43 prison. Oh, oh, Shug night. Oh, and they had to do David interview, I forget who, but it was from prison. Oh. Oh, Shug Night. Oh. And they had to do like 10 minute calls and like do multiple parts. Oh yeah, they have these limited calls they get like 300 minutes of. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:51 But in person interview would be nuts if they let you film there. That'd be sick. I don't think they will let you bring cameras in there. Probably not. Yeah, it's a safety risk. I know, but hopefully I can visit one day. Yeah, that Luigi story, did you cover that one too?
Starting point is 00:16:03 I've like tweeted about it. I haven't like, you know, tried to reach out to him or anything like that. I do think that like the mania and like obsession around him is odd. I mean, I get it. He is. He's good looking. The females love the true crime stuff. I get it.
Starting point is 00:16:16 He's good looking. I'm not going to lie about that, but I'm also just like, I don't know. I feel weird idolizing some, like a murderer of any kind. I don't know where I stand on it ethically in terms of like the actual like healthcare CEO, United Healthcare CEO, but I'm just like, I just, I don't want to support murderers, so. I know a woman that fall asleep to true crime documentaries. I've tried to do that, it just gives me nightmares.
Starting point is 00:16:37 I don't know how people do that. I know. If I watch a horror movie before bed, I'm having a nightmare getting feed. Yeah, I watched a horror movie like two weeks ago and I'm still like not able to sleep with the lights off. I'm such a pussy. I used to not sleep with the lights off growing up. You know. I'm doing that right now and I'm fucking 30.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Scared of the dark? I know. Oh man. God damn it. You've been traveling a lot lately? Yeah I just went to SF. How was that? It was good. I don't know where I want I don't know where I want to live. Like do you not SF? Do you think? I mean yeah yeah, I hate, I do like that the amount of intelligent people seems like there's a higher volume of them in SF versus Vegas. That's true. Oh, easily, yeah. If you compare it by intelligence, but just like the homelessness and-
Starting point is 00:17:17 The homelessness, the politics. Yeah. Super liberal. I mean, you're conservative, right? So- I know. I don't label myself conservative. I definitely lean right. And I did want Trump to win, but I still don't like call myself Republican or
Starting point is 00:17:27 Democrat or anything. I'm just sort of like, yeah, I want to try to win. There's a lot of people like that. But I do think that like, I probably have a lot of haters in San Francisco. Probably. Yeah. I wonder if Asians are more democratic or Republican, actually. I don't know. Probably. Yeah. I feel like, but I grew up in Jersey, so I'm biased. There was a lot of Democrats there. Yeah, my parents are super conservative. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:17:49 For Asians? Actually, my real dad is Democrat. Real dad? Wait a second. My stepdad and my mom are super conservative, but I'm like closest with them. But yeah, so I feel like I was raised somewhat conservatively. Okay. Where'd you grow up?
Starting point is 00:18:02 Vegas. Born and raised here. I got to admit, I'm not impressed with Vegas locals usually. I'm not either. I think they're trash. I see them on like reality shows and they don't portray intelligence to me. I feel like Nevada constantly ranks like 49th or 48th in terms of education in the United States. So I feel like we're not the best educated and we also don't really have industries that bring really intelligent, ambitious people to come work here. I feel like a lot of people are like, my dream is to be a bottle girl.
Starting point is 00:18:27 So. Yeah, that's not the, I mean, it's all relative, I guess, but yeah, that must be tough. So you must have went private school then. I did go to private school here. I heard, what was it? Bishop Gorman? Meadows, I went to Meadows.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Oh, Meadows. Bishop Gorman was like the cool, sporty private school. For sports, right. Yes, yes. So Meadows is like the nerdy academic one. Got it. Anyone end up being successful from your class? I don't think so. And our class was super small.
Starting point is 00:18:48 I think there were like 50 people in a grade. So it was such a bubble. It was very... Yeah, I got my 10 year reunion this year. I'm curious to see where people are at. You grew up in Jersey? Jersey. But public school. Oh, how... Good and bad. You turned out well. You turned out successful. Yeah, but not because of public school. You know, like, would you send your kids to public or private school? How good and bad you turned out well, you turned out successful. Yeah, but not because of public school, you know Would you send your kids to private public or private school if I had to pick between those two private? But I would ultimately want home school probably really yeah I mean, yeah, I feel like there's a lot of like weird liberal bullshit being taught at the
Starting point is 00:19:19 Public school. Yeah, how was private school were they teaching some weird stuff there? No, not particularly I thought the education was good, but I also think that like a lot of students did not get socialized well and I feel like I even have like a lot of social anxiety meeting new people because it was like a K through 12 where you're growing up with the same group of like 50 people and not constantly like having to introduce yourself or like remake yourself or anything So yeah, I I don't know if I would send my kids to private school because I want them to be socialized normally interesting Yeah, wow, so you'd go to the public route. I have noticed that with Asians though I don't know if I would send my kids to private school because I want them to be socialized normally. Interesting. Yeah. Wow. So you'd go to the public route.
Starting point is 00:19:47 I have noticed that with Asians though, they're so wrapped up in like their books and stuff. I don't actually know. I mean, I've been torn and it probably depends on my partner. I feel like I'm like, I'll be easily swayed by whoever I'm dating. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:57 So you're submissive. I guess so. I mean, that's what traditional marriage used to be. I guess so. And now this whole movement. It's like an Asian thing. Yeah. Man. Do you ever go to China? I've never even been to China. What? I am half Chinese, but I've never been to be. I guess so. It's like an Asian thing. Yeah. Man. Do you ever go to China?
Starting point is 00:20:05 I've never even been to China. I am half Chinese, but I've never been to China. You got to get out there. Oh, even when there was like that prostitute rumor thing, they were like, the rumors like got more deep that like I'm married to like someone in China and I frequent China and like, like I'm a prostitute for like Chinese business. I was like, you homie, I've literally never even been to China. You are sugar baby. I know, right? Man. But what was I going to say?
Starting point is 00:20:30 Yeah, I've never been to China. Don't speak the language. Don't speak Chinese or Korean. I'm both, I'm Chinese and Korean. You're what? White and- Half Chinese, half Irish, yeah. It's Chinese New Year.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Oh, today? I didn't even know that. That's how out of touch I am with- You're both such fucking shitty Asians. I know. I didn't even like Chinese food growing up. Really? I don't even know that. That's how out of touch I am with- You're both such fucking shitty Asians. I know. I didn't even like Chinese food growing up. Really?
Starting point is 00:20:47 I don't love it either. Now I like it. The Chinatown in Vegas, I feel like it's pretty good. I like dumplings and shit, but I'm like, I don't know. I never picked Chinese as like my go-to going out food. Damn, that's interesting. Yeah. I was kind of ashamed of being Chinese growing up,
Starting point is 00:20:58 to be honest. I think I was too. I think I was like, I felt out of place or like I didn't fully belong or fit in growing up Asian. I was kind of embarrassed about it growing up. Yeah. I think now I'm a little better with it, but for sure, like I would get bullied growing up.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Did you? Yeah, did you? I did too. I definitely got the whole like, like The eyes, yeah. Plenty eyes thing when we were younger. The dog stuff. Oh yeah, dog stuff.
Starting point is 00:21:19 And then ching chong, of course. Yes, yes. Yeah, they all use the same stuff. They do. And it used to get to me, but now it's like, whatever. Think of something better. Yeah. I still get it on Twitter. I mean, people are still just like, go back to China, go eat dog or whatever. I was just like, be a little more creative. Go back to your H1B visa. That's so good. So your, your, one of your parents was from China though?
Starting point is 00:21:39 My dad was actually born here. He's Chinese, but he was born here. I've gotten a lot of people, when I did openly support Trump, a lot of people were like, you're going to get deported. I'm like, but no, I was, I was born here and some I'm legal. My parents are legal. Yeah. I was scared to support Trump in like 16 for sure. 20. I was pretty scared. Did you support him? Oh yeah. This, this election, I wasn't that scared to be honest. I mean, I was like, all right, it might affect the podcast a little bit, the numbers and the sponsors, but.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Did it? Yeah, yeah, it probably did. Did people pull out? Yeah, guests have pulled out, sponsors have pulled out, because a lot of the sponsors in the podcast space are not conservative. Oh, yeah, I guess a lot of people are very liberal, a lot of people, especially in California.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Yeah, especially the brands out of Cali and SF, which a lot of them sponsor podcasts. Damn, that sucks. It's part of the game, I mean. Yeah, especially the brands out of Cali and SF, which a lot of them sponsor podcasts. Damn. That sucks. It's part of the game, I mean. Yeah. But I have on both sides on the show too. Oh, like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:31 I think, no, I have, most of my in real life friends are very liberal. I mean, I went to USC, I went to college in LA. So like most of my real friends are super liberal. Damn, hopefully they're all right with the fires going on. That shit's crazy. I'm actually going to LA tonight. Oh really? I'm going this weekend. What are you going for? Podcasts. Oh, fun. Hopefully the air all right with the fires going on. That shit's crazy. I'm actually going to LA tonight. Oh, really? I'm going this weekend.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Oh, yeah. What are you going for? A podcast. Oh, fine. Hopefully the air quality is better by now. I know. It's brutal. Dude, those fires. I don't like to get too conspiratorial, but I'm sure you saw what was going on on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Well, I saw like arsonists and stuff like that. I saw even Andrew Huberman caught a video of like some men lighting fires around that. So I'm like... It seems like some of them, if not all of them, were kind of like, yeah, started by arsonists. It's pretty wild. Super nuts to see what it turned into too. I know. Millions of people lost their home.
Starting point is 00:23:12 I know, it's really sad. I don't even really understand, like where are those people living now? They're out of the country. Oh my God, it's so sad. Are the people living? No, I heard the arsonists fled the country. Oh.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Yeah, the people living are screwed because all the hotels are booked. I know. Airbnbs. Fuck. And a lot of them didn't have insurance. That's, oh my God, that's so tragic. Yeah. And most people put their whole net worth in their real estate.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Totally. Oh my God, there would be nothing more tragic than that. Did you get in the Vegas real estate at a good time? Honestly, my parents secured this house for me when I was younger, so I don't even know what year they purchased it. Damn, you're up hella then. We were all living in this house for some period of time
Starting point is 00:23:55 and then I took care of my grandma in it for a while and then she got too ill and moved to a nursing home. So I was like, they let me. Yeah, that's the Asian thing, living with your grandma. Yeah, they love that. With your grandma? No, my mom's mom was in China. Oh, well. She stayed there.
Starting point is 00:24:11 I don't think she liked America, to be honest. Really? No. Why? I don't know. People in China just... I don't know. I don't want to generalize too much.
Starting point is 00:24:19 I feel like they like it there. Yeah, I wouldn't know. Haven't even been. But I mean, my grandma's in like a nursing home now and she like can't communicate with anyone. She only speaks Korean. Damn, that sucks. It's really sad.
Starting point is 00:24:30 I try to visit her a lot. Holy crap. Nursing homes scare me. I know. I'm so afraid of getting old. I don't want to go out that way. I know, me neither. I feel like that's like the worst way to go out.
Starting point is 00:24:39 We were trying to take care of her for a while, but it just like became like too, like, I don't know. It's too much medically now. So just... It's super expensive, right? It is expensive, yeah. Yeah, nursing homes are like 10 grand a month, I heard. Yeah, I don't know how much hers is. My mom mostly pays for it, but it's pretty depressing.
Starting point is 00:24:56 God damn. A.B. A.B. nominated you. A.B. A.B. Antonio Brown did nominate me Chink of the Year and I'm honored. I will take that with pride. That's probably my greatest honor, being Chink of the Year.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Did they announce the winners yet? Yeah, he already won. I won. Oh, you won? I won Chink of the Year. Congrats. I know, I'm so proud. I wonder who else, I can't think of any other Chinese people. Who else was nominated?
Starting point is 00:25:19 It was Jackie Chan. What? The Chinese kid from Goonies. Who else was it? Yao Ming. Yao Ming? Uh-huh. It was Jackie Chan. What? The Chinese kid from Goonies. Who else was it? Goonies? Yao Ming. Yao Ming?
Starting point is 00:25:28 Uh-huh, and I won. Oh wow. Yeah, I've vote. What is it based off of? Like people vote? I have no idea. Or he picks himself? I think he just picked.
Starting point is 00:25:36 I think he just picked. Yeah, that sounds good. But AB's a homie. I like AB. I saw Shane Gillis won and he had to give a speech. Oh yeah, oh I didn't actually watch his speech. How was it? It was hilarious. He was so happy he won. I need to give a speech. Oh yeah. Oh, I didn't actually watch his speech. How was it? It was hilarious.
Starting point is 00:25:46 He was so happy he won. I need to watch it. He did it virtually. Did you give a speech? He did interview me. I think I was just like, I'm honored. It was like a one minute like speech. Wow.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Did you get a trophy or anything? He said he'd send me one, but he hasn't yet. What the fuck, AB? Damn, come on AB. I ran into him at a M Fest. I haven't met him in person yet. How is he? He's got a crowd with him and he's high energy for sure.
Starting point is 00:26:06 He's probably just like he is on Twitter to be honest, which I respect. He's probably actually mentally ill, but that's totally fine with me. It's the football man, those injuries. What is it called? CTE? Yeah. I saw him on PBD's podcast and it got ugly. Really?
Starting point is 00:26:21 Yeah. I think he either walked off or got in a huge fight. Oh shit. Yeah. Don't get in an argument with him. Okay. Really? Yeah. I think he either walked off or got in a huge fight. Oh, shit. Yeah. Well. Don't get in an argument with him. Okay, that's scary. Yeah. I don't think I could argue with A.B. this. You got any beefs or arguments you've been pertaining in lately?
Starting point is 00:26:34 Not recently. No, I don't think so. Not like arguments. Okay. I don't think. Because I'm sure people call you out for random stuff. People try to argue with me. I've had people like when I'm like going to events, people have been like, oh, like this person said you have beef with them. I'm like, I don't even know who the fuck that is.
Starting point is 00:26:48 So like, I feel like people have beef with me and I'm sure a lot of people fucking hate me, but I'm just like, I don't, I don't know who the fuck you are. I don't give a shit. Yeah. Well, they want to beef with you to get more views. That's true. A lot of, so a lot of people on Twitter apparently have beef with me.
Starting point is 00:27:00 So sorry. But it's probably the paychecks you posted. This is true. Honestly, I think that that's generally the main thing that people beef about or they're just like, she doesn't deserve that. Her tweets are so stupid. And I'm like, yeah, they are.
Starting point is 00:27:11 I mean, the thread I saw, it blew up. It must've gotten millions of views. And I read the comments. They were all negative about you. Oh, about like my payouts? Yeah. Yeah, people are like, she literally just posts like fucking memes and I'm like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Yeah. How do they base the payouts? Is it all fused? I think it's just engagement. So honestly, actually I think the more people that are mad at me, it helps me. Oh wow. Yeah, cause I always wonder,
Starting point is 00:27:34 cause it's not, you don't post videos, right? I sometimes, occasionally I post a video, but probably like once a month. Right, but it's just text posts and you're making money off of it somehow. Yeah, I just tweet like, good morning my, kimchi pancakes. And people are like, you're fucking, your tweets are so fucking stupid.
Starting point is 00:27:48 You don't deserve this money. And I'm like, well, you're so mad at it that you're commenting and it gives me money, so continue as if anyone hates me out there, just make sure you're subscribed to X premium so that you have the blue check mark. That's how I get paid. And you can leave as many angry comments as you'd like. I love it. Shout out.
Starting point is 00:28:05 I love that. Do you use Twitter? Yeah, but I don't really post as much as I should. Because my content's video based. I'm not like a text guy, but I might have to adapt because the traffic on Twitter is insane. I mean, how many views are you getting a month on average? I actually never look at my analytics. Oh, you don't?
Starting point is 00:28:21 Fucking idea, yeah. I kind of look at mine. Well, I have to for sponsors, but... Yeah, people ask me about analytics and all that stuff. I'm like, I have literally no strategy. I don't like plan any posts. I'd be curious to see yours. If I had to guess you're probably getting over a hundred million views a month. Probably. Cause some of your tweets get like five, 10 million. Yeah. Every once in a while, something random goes viral, but probably. That's a lot. Yeah. And you don't care to monetize that to like get sponsors or start a podcast or something? I'm open, but I wouldn't take any crypto sponsors. But probably a lot. Yeah. And you don't care to monetize that to like get sponsors or
Starting point is 00:28:46 start a podcast or something. I'm open, but I wouldn't take any crypto sponsors. But if it was like something that I like or use or whatever, I'm open to sponsorships. So you're against any crypto sponsor. I don't know. I mean, like, I don't know, maybe the furthest I'd go would be, I don't, I've never worked for an exchange, worked with an exchange. I'd say that I'm 100% against doing like meme coins or something like that. But like, I don't know, if it was something that maybe I would use, like I obviously own crypto,
Starting point is 00:29:08 so I'm not against the whole space. But if it seemed legitimate and not scammy, I'd be open maybe. I've seen Kraken sponsor a lot of podcasts lately, Gemini, Coinbase. Oh really? Yeah. Coinbase?
Starting point is 00:29:20 Yeah, I think an exchange like that I would do. But yeah, like you, I wouldn't do anything past that. Yeah. It's too risky. I agree. After what happened with FTX. I know. And even that one was regulated, right? Everyone thought FTX was like extremely like, you know, legitimate and I don't know.
Starting point is 00:29:36 If I was offered FTX in the past and I hadn't seen all these collapses, like maybe I would have considered it. But after the collapses, I'm just like, I can't do that. I feel that. What are your predictions for Caroline Ellison? Oh, she already got zero. Oh, she- I would have considered it. But after the collapses, I'm just like, I can't do that. I feel that. What are your predictions for Caroline Ellison? Oh, she already got zero. Oh, no, no, no. She got wait, Caroline. Oh, Caroline got two years. Okay. Prison. Nishad Singh and Gary Wong got zero prison time. Which is nuts. I know.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Because they were in on it, right? I know. But Caroline was like, I feel like she probably should have gotten more. I think it's pretty wild that just for testifying, you can go from, I mean, Sam Baker-Minfried got 25 years in prison. You can go from that to two years is pretty wild to me, just for like ratting on a Coke conspirator or the big fish in the system. But like to me, I feel like her sentence being cut
Starting point is 00:30:20 like basically in half from Sam's would kind of make sense. But I'm like, two years is pretty wild. She must've given some insane information to get it down to two years. I wonder what she gave up. She was like a star witness. Um, I went to, I mean, I went to every day of trial. She like did like have some notes and, uh, some documents and stuff like that, that she shared and obviously like, yeah, help put Sam behind bars.
Starting point is 00:30:40 But, um, I feel like she was nearly equally as culpable. She was like the CEO of Alameda and Alameda is the company through which like all these crazy venture capital investments were made. Do you remember any specific like documents or things she said at trial that were like the nail in the coffin for SPF? There were a lot that were like sort of technical like spreadsheets and stuff like that. So that wouldn't be super interesting to go into, I guess. But, um, uh, she did say that Sam thought there was like eight. Was it 50% chance or apparently he thought there was a high likelihood that
Starting point is 00:31:14 he would become president of the United States one day. He also said that if he were to take a coin flip 50% chance, the world ends 50% chance, the world ends up two times better that he would take that coin flipped. What? Like a 50% chance that literally the entire world ends. That doesn't seem worth the odds. I know, I agree. It'd have to be like 1%.
Starting point is 00:31:32 I agree, but it shows his like extreme risk tolerance. Was that stuff true about him donating 50% of his money to charity? He did donate a lot to charity, yes. Wow. And I do think he like actually sort of believed in it, but almost to an extent at which I feel like he was sort of like an ends justify the means person where he did, I think, actually want to donate to charity, but thought that if his goal was to donate to charity,
Starting point is 00:31:53 he could do pretty much anything on the way there to get to that goal. Yeah, it's interesting, because you knew him behind the scenes, so you knew the real him, right? Was he similar to how he was portrayed in the media? I mean, he was obviously vilified much more in the media and he was obviously like in interpersonal, like interactions with him was honestly like always very
Starting point is 00:32:11 kind and like there was nothing he said to me that turned out to be a lie. Like he, I think he was quite honest with me about everything and like was a generally like kind person. I did consider him like an actual like friend, even though he did commit massive scale finance. But no, I actually considered Sam a friend. And I mean, since then, I've befriended a lot of criminals. So I mean, I can see past it. You like them criminals, huh?
Starting point is 00:32:35 I like a criminal. What can I say? Yeah, I befriended like after after SBF went to MDC, I befriended like an ex blood gang member who just got out of jail with him. His name is G Lockeok, he's lovely. Was he protecting him? He probably paid for it. He said that he was trying to watch out for Sam
Starting point is 00:32:49 and make sure that no one extorted him and whatnot. I'm sure that's the first thing he did when he got there. He like, yo, let me find the biggest guy and pay him to protect me, because that's what I would do. He didn't get paid by Sam, but I think everyone can just tell that Sam kind of doesn't really belong.
Starting point is 00:33:02 I mean, just in that he's like this nerdy, awkward, autistic little like short little Jew and everyone else are like these hardened criminals that like, I don't know, have probably killed people or whatnot. So I feel like like there were a couple of people in prison that were like, we'd need to watch out for this little guy. I can't believe you said they all are just sleeping in the open on mattresses. I mean, that to me is wild for high profile people like that because they're going to
Starting point is 00:33:24 be targeted. Yeah, that to me is wild for high profile people like that, because they're going to be targeted. Yeah, that's true. But since everyone's pretty high profile, I think there's not like a ton of violence in that unit, but there is like a little extortion and whatnot and threats and some people get sent into solitary confinement. I wonder if Sam's in solitary right now. No, I think he's in his normal unit. He's in Four North.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Did he's probably in solitary? No, there's still, I think that currently they're in Four North together, but I think they've both been in solitary for various periods. Or like, I think initially when they're being moved into prison, they go on suicide watch for like their initial period, just to make sure they Wow.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Don't do it. Did you cover the Diddy stuff? I haven't fully, but I'm considering it. Just cause now it's sort of like intertwining with stories I've already covered. Now knowing that Diddy's in there with SBF. I'm sort of like, hmm, it's kind of getting a little bit more into my territory. So.
Starting point is 00:34:09 And they might drop the list, right? They might drop the FC list, the Diddy list. That's going to be a fun day when that comes out. I'm excited for it. They just dropped the what? JFK list? I don't know if it came out yet, but he signed it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:21 JFK, MLK and one more. That's going to be huge. Everyone wants the ditty list Yeah, I think the JFK one will be massive. I'm excited. Maybe yeah, maybe I'll cover it Which conspiracy theory do you believe with the JFK stuff? Cuz there's a few I Honestly, I'm not that it was obviously far before I was born So I'm not someone who's gotten like super deeply invested in it. Do you believe in any? There's the multiple shooters theory, there's the CIA theory, there's the mob theory. Who knows?
Starting point is 00:34:50 I do think the multiple shooter one's pretty plausible. I mean, that sounds like it could be. I haven't really deeply looked into that. Maybe I'll do that today, because I need more hobbies. Yeah, conspiracies are fun. You just do this podcast all the time. Like, what are your hobbies outside of this? What do you do?
Starting point is 00:35:05 Basketball, Fortnite chess, movies. I collect Funko Pops. I got a nasty Funko Pop collection. Damn. Yeah. Do you know what those are? Dude, SPF actually was into Funko Pops? No. Well, Sam sent me a bunch of documents
Starting point is 00:35:21 prior to like him going to jail. And one of the documents was he sent me his entire Amazon purchase history. Oh, he buys them off Amazon. Yeah. He bought, he bought one. You don't, if you're a true Funko collector, you don't buy off. So he's not a true, no, he's a noob. I would call him.
Starting point is 00:35:36 It was, um, which one was it? Unless it was a super expensive one. I think, I think I posted it on a sub stack, but I forget which Funko was, but I remember seeing that on the list. I was like, this is so on a sub stack, but I forget which Funko was, but I remember seeing that on the list. I was like, this is so fucking weird. What's the weirdest thing you saw him buy? That was weird. It was honestly just fucking nerdy shit. He bought a bunch of beanbags and like board games and like kitchen utensils.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Okay. It wasn't super exciting. Wow. I'm big on board games too. Are you? Yeah. You're such a nerd. I know. I go to this spot in Vegas. It's all you can play board games. Oh. For 10 nerd. I know. I go to this spot in Vegas. It's all you can play board games. Oh. For 10 bucks. I need to try going to more shit in Vegas.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Yeah. Vegas has some cool spots. Yeah. I think of Vegas as like being really boring and I just like stay at home all day when I'm here. But it is boring if you don't know where to go. You need to tell me some places. I will. I was bored for like two years in Vegas. Yeah. I feel like I'm there right now. Cause if you're not in the party scene, like we're known for the strip parties and clubs. So I'm not a big clubber or anything like that. So when I'm in Vegas, I literally just stay at home and go to the grocery store and then come home again. Do you go to the Summerlands Farmers Market? No. Go there.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Is it good? Oh, my God. Yeah. Ooh. Try the Dubai chocolate there. Oh, OK. So good. Yeah. Are you big in nature? I like nature, but I don't love like the desert landscape. Like I prefer, like if I'm in somewhere green, then I'll go out and do a little more. I agree. I like green nature more. The desert nature doesn't hit the same. Yeah, I don't like it that much. I'm just sort of like, I get to the top of mountain. I'm like cool, like more rocks.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Facts. Well, Tiffany, it's been fun. Where can people, yeah, good to catch up. Where can people catch up with you? Oh, you can all leave angry comments on my Twitter at Tiffany Fong with one underscore. I'm on YouTube at just Tiffany Fong. I'm on Instagram at Tiffany Fong. I don't know, you can Google me and I'm sure, oh, don't Google me.
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