Dinner’s on Me with Jesse Tyler Ferguson - Side Dish: More with Arturo Castro

Episode Date: October 1, 2026

More of my interview with ‘Matchbox: The Movie’ star Arturo Castro. Arturo Castro tells us about his first TV role on ‘The Good Wife’ as Dishwasher Juan and he credits ‘Broad City’ as a bl...ueprint for writing his own pilot and recounts almost having to turn down a Disney movie to honor ‘Broad City’ commitment. Plus, we hear what it was like behind the scenes of ‘The Menu,’ including how Ralph Fiennes is IRL. This episode was recorded at Josephine in Silver Lake, Los Angeles. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:50 This week I was at Highly Likely in Studio City with actor Maitreya Ramakrishnan. Now, you might know her as the star of Netflix's series Never Have I Ever, and now she's starring in the Netflix film Best of the Best about the World of Competitive Bollywood Dance. Over breakfast burritos and Kyoto bowls, My Treyi discusses why she approaches every character she plays as if she's their defense lawyer, and the gratifying experience of hearing her own name announced on a Universal Studios tram tour. Now, to get back into the conversation, you're pulling up a chair as my Treye walks me through the audition process for her break, out role in Netflix's Never Have I Ever.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Do you remember, I'm just curious because you, you know, saying that you didn't have any athlete, although you did play Velma Kelly, which is a complicated, layered role if you asked me. But do you remember, like, any sort of direction or, like, was there notes that were being given to you to, like, adjust your performance? Like, during the audition? Yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Yeah. I remember just going in, like, thinking, whatever they say, try and, like, be the, answer to their puzzle you know their question. I was so ready to like just pivot and change it up. I remember in the last audition though because all in high school we kept it like light and breezy. We had
Starting point is 00:04:07 funny plays and musicals. So one of the last scenes during the last round of auditions was a very sad one where I'm like grieving my dad. And I'm asking my mother like hey am I a bad daughter because I'm forgetting my dad and he looks like
Starting point is 00:04:23 and like you know that is important to me. And I've never, like, done that kind of thing before. I'm used to making people laugh. And I did it, the scene, and it was okay, right? And then Lang Fisher, other showrunner to Minnie Kaling said, like, okay, I want you to do that again. Just take a breath. Don't worry about, like, the time.
Starting point is 00:04:40 But I just want your heart to feel heavy. I want you to show me what it feels like when your heart is so physically heavy in your chest. And something about that note just hit. I, like, took my second, and I was like, okay, like, And I just started the scene. And I felt my heart physically feel heavy to a point that I was doing the scene. I knew my lines, like, you know, tattooed in my brain.
Starting point is 00:05:04 But I just kind of stopped talking midway through the scene because I got that sad. I don't know what clicked. And then I was like, oh, my God. I'm so sorry, my bad. And they're like, no, no, no, that's perfect. Just go again from the top. That was perfect. And I was like, okay.
Starting point is 00:05:19 And I did it again. And I just felt the room go from like, ha, ha, he-he. in the beginning half where they were all like, you know, oh my god, my trace will probably look at this young 17 year old like brat to, they were just silent, you know?
Starting point is 00:05:34 And I was like, oh, and I didn't know what that meant at the time. I was like, okay, well, goodbye. Bye now. Thanks for hanging out with me. Did it feel like you like tapped into the power of like a truthful moment? Yes. Yeah. You generally felt.
Starting point is 00:05:48 You recognize that it was a good thing. Now that I look back, I think what happened was I just really did feel like, oh, I'm so dialed into this character and what it feels to empathize with this girl. Even though I never went to school for like acting and never had like formal training, all the time I'd be asked like, what's your method? Like, what's your process? And I'm not a very book smart actor. Like I don't write my shit out. I keep it all in my head, which I don't know. I don't either. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I think, listen, I don't either. And I'm,
Starting point is 00:06:19 well into this industry and I feel like I keep working. You're killing it. You're killing it. I just feel like when you put too many notes in the margin of like what your intention is, it's just like you get, I personally get way down by that. I get too locked in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Too locked in and then I'm not flexible to what a director wants or what like my team partner might throw at me because like, you know, I want to mix.
Starting point is 00:06:40 But my process when it comes to characters, now how I describe it is I have to be my character's best defense lawyer. Even if my character is going to do something bad, I need to explain to the the jury, even though they're going to say she's guilty, I need to just explain to the jury, but why she did. Right, right. You know, Vellma's all the stand. She killed him.
Starting point is 00:07:03 But let me explain to you why. It's character protection. Exactly. You know, it's like you have to love who you're playing. Exactly. Love who you're playing. Be the defense lawyer. Take care for.
Starting point is 00:07:10 That's my favorite end for like villains. Yes. They have a reason for being horrible. Yeah, yeah. Even though it might not be a valid, like, you know, or a great reason, it's real to them. Yeah. You know, and trying to find that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:25 And then you're swimming. Then you get people to root for you or at least understand your character, even if they hate you. Yeah. They respect this character as a real person. Yeah. You know? Yeah. And I'm like, I could be egregious as a character, but it makes sense.
Starting point is 00:07:40 So that's kind of my vibe. Now for a quick break, but don't go away. When we come back, Maitrella and I talk about her relationship with L.A. And what it was like learning to navigate New York City subway. Okay, be right back. On days off from Jesus Car Superstar in London this past summer, we would head out to the English countryside for a little family reset. The boys were in heaven.
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Starting point is 00:09:39 Yeah. I love being driven places and just dropped off. Yeah, I will say it's nice. It's quite nice. I cannot lie. Are you, do you live in Canada? Yeah, Toronto side. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Yeah, yeah. And, like, what is your relationship with L.A.? I mean? See, so I only was here for, like, work for, like, the beginning. I was not here, like, my first time being. in L.A. was for the job. And then I only really come for work. But at first I was like, I don't know if I really like it. Like, because I have like no friends and I have no family here at that time.
Starting point is 00:10:12 And then I built my like community. And now that I have my people, I really like it. Yeah. Because of the people. I think when you like also make friends that know the restaurants to go to and like the fun places to hang out that are not just a rat party. Like an insider information. Yeah. Not just someone's restaurant recommendation. because they went there for a rat party, you know? Like, actually good, like, you know, food or, like, good places to hang. Then it's like, okay, we're vibes.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So now I like it. I enjoy it now. I don't. I also came to L.A. because of work. Okay. And I didn't really want to come here. Where are you coming from?
Starting point is 00:10:46 New York. I was a theater kid. It's like I did, you know, on stage stuff. And then I did a TV show, not modern family, something before that. And I was, like, put up in a hotel, like, in Studio City. And I remember, like, trying to connect with some of my other cast. members we met here and I was like being given instructions on how to get from one neighborhood to another and like in my mind everything's like super close yeah yeah yeah yeah realizing
Starting point is 00:11:10 from New York subway yes exactly oh my god totally different so like going from you know studio city to like Santa Monica it was a whole like it's like going to two different cities you have to commit and I was like what number of the exit is like in Albuquerque New Mexico where I grew up like we got to fight on like exit 204 and they're like we don't number our Are exits? Like, they were so... Wow. See, I like...
Starting point is 00:11:35 I just recently spent a proper chunk of time in New York. Then I only went to New York for press, like doing like the late night circuit or whatever. Right. But I actually had a project there that, like, let me be there for four months. Oh, nice. And I really liked it. Where did you say? What neighborhood?
Starting point is 00:11:48 Well, I was technically in Jersey, but Jersey City, but... That's not the whole same thing, yeah. Yeah. But I would literally take just right in front of my apartment, a one-minute walk was, like, the train leading me straight to, like, the World Trade Center. Yeah. And I was like, oh. Oh, this is great.
Starting point is 00:12:02 So I spent a lot of time more in New York, but I will never forget, like, the first anxiety is taking the subway and then feeling like, wait, I can do this. Yeah. And then I went back for, like, whatever press trip or whatever with my friends. And I was like, wait, did I lose, like, the subway touch? And then I was okay. Yeah. I was okay.
Starting point is 00:12:20 I was like, yo, this is like unmatched level of independence. I know. It's like when you get your license for the first time and you can go anywhere, that's how I feel about the subway. Yeah. That's me back home in, like, Mississauga, where I'm from. I'm a suburban kid, so you have to drive. You know how to drive or you're like screwed.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Or know someone who drives. Right. Make them your driver friend. Right, right, right, right. But you enjoy Toronto? Yeah. The Toronto side. The Toronto side.
Starting point is 00:12:45 It's like Canada's just so big that it's like different side. I know. I know. It's a very good side and the Toronto side. Different vibe. What do we call the middle? No man's land. Truly no man's land.
Starting point is 00:12:55 It's like the middle of Australia. Whatever the fuck's going on there. No, truly. Truly. It's like right. Huh? The middle. Alberta?
Starting point is 00:13:02 Yeah, I guess so. Calgary, I guess. Yeah. I just spend time in Toronto doing, filming something. It's like, you know, the only time I ever go up there is to the film. I loved it. Yeah, it was nice. It's nice.
Starting point is 00:13:14 It's like smaller New York. Like much, much, much smaller New York. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, you guys in New York, it's actually quite big and there's all the different like burbs. But Toronto, you can get to like, you know, either side and back easily. Yeah, yeah. But we also don't have the transportation system you guys have. Our transportation system is not nearly as great.
Starting point is 00:13:33 But I like Trump. Now for a quick break, but don't go away. When we come back, my Trey reveals which iconic actress and friend of this podcast she calls Mother, and we hear the hilarious story of a Universal Studios tour guide who knew more about her show than she did. Okay, be right back. One thing I've learned about having a home that you really love is that sometimes even the smallest thing makes a room feel, oh, not quite right. And for me, that's often been the rug.
Starting point is 00:14:04 For starters, figuring out the size of the rug you want is it's so confusing. You look at a room, you measure, and then you order one, and suddenly it's either floating in the middle of the room or swallowing up the entire space. There's apparently a very specific mathematical formula to this that I have never been taught. And that is why I was intrigued when I found out about Ernesta. They make custom-sized rugs that are cut to the inch for your exact space, so you're not just hoping that a standard size. is going to work. I have a very odd-shaped hallway that is a bit wide but also very long, and I want a runner for it, and I've tried to put rugs in the space. They either look like a tiny little landing strip in the middle of the room or like they're going wall to wall, and it's just
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Starting point is 00:15:19 And she spoke about how encouraged she was by just how many stories are being told. You know, we're sort of in this Renaissance moment, the Asian stories being told on television. in film. And I know you two work together. She's mother. Yeah, I know. Sandra O's mother energy. That's Canada's mother right there.
Starting point is 00:15:41 I know. Oh, yeah, both Canadian too. That's Canada's mother right there. But the movie is, was it seeing red? Yeah, turning red. Turning red. Yeah, yeah. I think in the UK they call it seeing red.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Or like, it's interesting. Oh, really? It's one of those situations. There's like another, it's like a Zootopia, Zootropolis thing. Yes. Where it's like a regional should make. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Turning red, seeing red. Oh, my God. We were just in. Spain and we went by a billboard and Moana was called something completely different. Oh. And our friend who was from Spain, she was like, yeah, Moana like means something. Like it's not good here. I was like, and she wouldn't even tell me what it meant.
Starting point is 00:16:19 I'm like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Google at home, folks. Yeah, yeah, Google it. Yeah. But my kids introduced me to turning red.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Yeah. And it's such a great, great film. But, like, what I was noticing when I was, like, kind of looking at your, I mean, what you've accomplished already in your 24 years is a professional actor. Like, you know, between never have I ever, best of the best, turning red, like, there's this through line of, like, coming of age that is, like, kind of present in all these stories. Yeah. and I'm certainly
Starting point is 00:17:01 it probably is you know a moment in your time because you're gonna go to a point where like you literally outgrow the coming of age stories The brown doesn't frown just yet But there will be a time where I will age like fine wine Yeah
Starting point is 00:17:13 You know it's okay I used to like kind of crash out a bit I was like I mean all these casting directors are saying I look too young to play this part I want to be older And then my writer friend was like my tree The older roles will always be there
Starting point is 00:17:23 Yeah enjoy it while you have it Because then once you are there I can't go back babe And I'm like, fair enough. Fair enough. But there is a through line of like coming of age in my projects, I guess. Yeah, there is. But I think people come of age, I think the reason why coming of age stories work so well, too,
Starting point is 00:17:39 is because people kind of come of age multiple times in their life. You know, I don't think coming of age is something that happens just once and, you know, one and done. I mean, turning red is a movie about May, May, you know, our main girl coming of age, but also kind of her mother at the same time. Like that bamboo forest scene where you realize, like, oh, she's also, it's the moment where you realize, oh, your parents are also just having their first time at life as well. It's like, oh, you actually also have no idea what you're doing. You don't have all the answers, but you're my parent.
Starting point is 00:18:11 You're supposed to know everything. And you're like, oh, you're also like, my mom is literally just a girl. She's just a girl. She's figuring it out too. That's literally the point of turning around. Your mother is also just a girl. Right. She's trying.
Starting point is 00:18:22 It's her first time at life. Just give her a little bit of grace if you can. It's so true. Yeah. Yeah, you know? Yeah. I mean, I'm realizing that in real time as a dad now. I have a three-year-old, no, six-year-old.
Starting point is 00:18:33 And just every month it feels like I'm in this other phase. I'm like, where's the handbook for this phase? Because I have no idea what's going on. I do not. I yelled at my three-year-old this morning because he was frustrated me. He was doing that thing where, like, you try and stand him up and he just, like, has rubber legs. And I was like, it was really pissing me off.
Starting point is 00:18:51 And he was laughing about it. And it just like... You got rage-baited. I got rage. Rage baited. You were done. Yeah. You got you.
Starting point is 00:19:00 I literally said at one point, and now I'm like listening to myself. I'm like, yeah, I would be laughing too. I was like, I am your papa. Yeah. Uh-huh. And he was like, of course he was laughing at me. Because that was being ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:19:09 And get ready for a couple more decades of that. Oh. You're like, don't say that. No, get ready. I know. There's way more rage big to come. Way more than rubber legs. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:20 You're going to pray for the rubber leg days. You're going to be like, can you just flop over again? Flop over. easier. Yeah. So harmless. But like, that's your coming of age moment too, where you're also just kind of crashing out,
Starting point is 00:19:33 like a teenager being like, stop it, stop. Truly. You know? Are they so mad at myself for getting angry at him? Mm-mm-mm. But that is funny, though. Yeah. A good rubber legs bit.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Hey, that's some good physical comedy. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. They praised Charlie Chaplin when he did. I see all. So you're here in L.A. for a little while. Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:01 What else do you have planned while you're here? Are you going to like see, are you going on another house tour? More celebrity, you know, bus tours. I did spontaneously go to Universal Studios with my friend. Okay. She told me, I haven't been, I was like 10. Yeah, and I was like, we got to go.
Starting point is 00:20:16 There was like an hour and a half left of the park opening. Yeah. And I was like, no, we got to go. It's the greatest. And it's so close. So close. It's smack in the middle of L.A. But I'm also like so nostalgic.
Starting point is 00:20:26 for it because that's where we shot Never Have I Ever. Oh, right. And I wanted to show my friend, like, the back lot tour because fun story that I, like, just remembered last week because we went to Universal Studios, the way I found out about the name of the show, Never Have I Ever,
Starting point is 00:20:42 was because of the tram tour. So Mindy in season one, I was 17, working my butt off, and I had one day off. And Mindy was like, I'm going to buy you tickets to, not even, it wasn't even a day off, it was the weekend. And my friend who sent me the tweet was visiting me in LA.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Yeah. And Mindy bought us tickets, my mom, my brother, my bestie and I to go to Universal Studios. I've never been, right? And she's like, go treat yourself, have fun. And it was super sweet of her. So we go on the weekend and I am thrilled. I'm like, oh my God, this is amazing. Like we don't have theme parks like that in Canada.
Starting point is 00:21:13 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm so excited. And then I see that they do tram tours of like the back lot. And I'm like, yo, guys, we got to go. I wanted to show my best friend. Like, yo, this is like where I work, blah, blah, blah. So we go. We're on the tram tour.
Starting point is 00:21:26 and they take us up to the back lot with Dioria Lane where they have like the Desperate Housewives and all that. And, you know, the Tour Guide goes, you know, if you look to your right and your left on the street, you'll see the houses that are familiar from the show Desperate Housewives, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like showing my friend, I'm like, yo, Shahara,
Starting point is 00:21:43 like, that's my house, that's like Davy's House, da-da-da. And then the tour guide operator goes, well, are there any fans of Mindy Kaling, any fans of the office here? And then I was like, oh, cool, yeah, woo. And then, because like, you know, show's not even out. out yet. Season one, no one knows what the fuck I am. And they're like, yeah, any fans of the office, Mindy Kaling?
Starting point is 00:22:01 Well, Mindy Kaling's new show, and at the time, we were calling it Untitled Kaling Fischer project, right? Untitled Y, A, Netflix, Kaling Fisher, blah, blah, blah. And they're like, well, Mindy Kaling's new show, never have I ever. And I was like, just the name of our show? Holy fuck, just name of our show. You weren't like, does she have another show? No, I'm not, I was like, wait a minute, who else lives here?
Starting point is 00:22:26 No, I was like, holy fuck. Like, that's the name of our show. That's such a interesting way to find out. Literally, as a tourist, with the people, I found out the name of the show. I love that story. Right? I went back to set that Monday. I was like, guys, guys, guys, I found out the name of the show.
Starting point is 00:22:42 The show's never, have I ever. What a great acronym. N-H-I-E. So marketable, so amazing. I wonder what font they're going to use. This is so smart. It makes sense. Davy's doing so many things that she's never done before, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:22:54 And then Lange is like, the other showrunner, Link Fisher, goes, oh. Okay, so cats out of the bag, everyone, I guess. It was your father was a tour guide. Yeah, no, you know, like, not at me, but it was just like, okay, so yeah, the name of the show is going to be, never have I ever. That is so funny.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Thank you, my treat. But also, how did that guy find out? I don't know. Insider information. It's that Universal Studios insider info. I mean, it wasn't very well protected if you asked me. Clearly not. But I remember going back to Universal Studios a couple years later,
Starting point is 00:23:24 Maybe we were season three or like season four-ish time. And I went with my cousin. And this time I'm incognito. Sometimes I'll be extra. I put a wig on, got a cap. I got my cosplay, big lashes, makeup, you know? So people like will recognize me. And it worked.
Starting point is 00:23:38 I bet. Yeah. It was extra, but it worked. And we go, because I want to show my cousin. Like, this is where I work, blah, blah, blah, blah. And not your being. He was like Gladys from, what's the movie? What was the movie?
Starting point is 00:23:51 What was in? Weapons, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was essentially me. I was gladys. I was gladys at the back of the tram, giving people a secondary tour in case they weren't really engaged or vibing with the real tour guide. You could listen to my fun facts on the side.
Starting point is 00:24:07 And I was like, yo, like, to my cousin, I'm like, yo, this is where I live, da-da-da-da. And then it was like, oh, if there's any fans of Never Have I Ever, My Trey Rahmukhishnan's house is here. And that was a moment where as someone, with a 20-letter long name, and I love my name because in every after credits, like, you know, all the credits at the end of a movie.
Starting point is 00:24:31 It sticks out extra long. It always sticks out extra long. You know where she is. You'll find her. That's why I have Jesse Tyler Ferguson. You'll find it. You'll find her. But it was just like a moment
Starting point is 00:24:41 where, you know, they went from like saying, like, oh, Mindy Kailings, you know, news show, never have I ever to, never have I ever starring Maitreya Ramakrishna. They said my name, like, correctly. And people on the bus were like, yo, yo, my tree. Oh, so cool.
Starting point is 00:24:54 That's so cool. And that was just a really nice moment to see that in a place like Universal Studios where there's these families that are, you know, they are on a vacation. Like, you know, it's a privileged thing to do, right? It's a treat. My long, brown, thumbal name is a part of that treat. It's similarly to how there's like a marquee Netflix billboard here in L.A. Like, you know, they change it up every so often.
Starting point is 00:25:19 And, you know, the other seasons earlier, the billboard would be like Team Ben or Team Pax. But for season four, the billboard just said, never have I ever not loved my Trey Ramakrishnan. And it was my whole name on this billboard. How special. And that was a moment of like... On Sunset Boulevard. No, literally.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Sunset Boulevard. And just having my full name there, I was like, wow, that's cool. I don't care about seeing my face. But my name, I was like, that, that's cool. To just see a long, thumbal, like, last name, first name. That was cool. Yeah. Sorry, that was a really big tantal.
Starting point is 00:25:54 You can't give me food and expect me to stay on topic. I'm too chill. I can't be doing this. No, you're perfect. I can't stay on topic and answer a question. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. That all came from what else are you going to do while you're here in L.A., and I loved it.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Yeah, literally, what the fuck? No, you're great. Listen. I'm going to go to Dupar's with Mindy. There you go. That's my favorite. You're seeing her today, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Okay. We must tell her I said hot. I will. 100%. Yeah. I've been Dupar's girly. Yeah. And Mindy and I are going to go get some fat pancakes.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Nice. That's the vibes. Good little catch-up, you know? With my OG fairy godmother. Yes. Changed my life. That was a little more from my conversation with my Trey Ramakrishnan. If you haven't heard our full conversation yet, make sure to check it out on Diner's On Me.
Starting point is 00:26:44 This episode of Diner's On Me was recorded at highly likely in Studio City Los Angeles. Next week on Dinner's On Me, you know him from The White Lotus, Silo, and Reality Bites, and he's starring in the Hulu series Chad Powers, now out with its second season. It's Steve's On. We'll talk about his decisions to raise his kid outside the Hollywood bubble in Kentucky, and what it's been like to work alongside his daughter in a project very personal to him. Plus some behind-the-scenes tidbits about filming that first season of the White Lotus. Dinner's On Me is a production of Sony Music Entertainment and a kid named Beckett Productions.
Starting point is 00:27:22 It's hosted by me, Jesse Tyler Ferguson. It's executive produced by me and Jonathan Hirsch. Our showrunner is Joanna Clay. Our associate producer is Alyssa Midcalf. Sam Baer engineered this episode. Hans Dale She composed our theme music. Special thanks to Tamika Balance Kalasni and Justin Makita. I'm Jesse Tyler Ferguson.
Starting point is 00:27:42 Join me next week.

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