Dinner’s on Me with Jesse Tyler Ferguson - TY BURRELL — on almost not getting the role of Phil Dunphy on ‘Modern Family’ and his family’s tip for evading the cops
Episode Date: March 25, 2025My ‘Modern Family’ brother-in-law, Ty Burrell joins the show. Over sandwiches and tater tots, Ty tells me about his grueling audition process for the role of Phil Dunphy, why ‘Modern Family’ f...ans recently assumed he was dead, and he teases an exciting new project with Bryan Cranston. This episode was recorded at an Airbnb in Sandy, UT. Food was provided by Ty’s restaurant, Beer Bar, in Salt Lake City. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hi, it's Jesse.
Today on the show, I mean, he really needs no introduction.
He played my brother-in-law on Modern Family for 11 seasons.
It's Phil Dumphy himself. It's Ty Burrell.
It's a great lesson to every young person out there.
If the police are chasing you, just leave.
Just leave.
Just leave.
They give up.
They do give up.
They'll give up. It's best if you have a baby. Yeah, have a baby. Just have a baby. Have a baby and leave. Just leave. They give up. They do give up. They'll give up.
It's best if you have a baby.
Yeah.
Have a baby.
Get yourself a baby.
Have a baby and leave.
This is Dinners On Me and I'm your host, Jesse Tyler Ferguson.
I've been lucky enough to witness some truly unforgettable moments.
Let's see, okay.
I was there for the birth of my sons.
I should definitely start there. Unforgettable moments. Let's see, okay. I was there for the birth of my sons. I should definitely start there.
Unforgettable moment.
I sat beside Audra McDonald
as she belted Les Miserables during Carpool Karaoke.
That was amazing.
I met President Obama in the Oval Office.
Truly incredible.
And I watched Ty Burrell turn Phil Dumphy
into a sitcom legend.
For 11 years, Ty and I played in-laws on Modern Family.
The entire cast of that show shares a rare, unshakable bond
and like any real family, my relationships with each of them
are very unique.
My dynamic with Ty, it's a mix of close friend,
younger brother, though it's anyone's guess,
which of us is the mature one,
and co-conspirator. We slip effortlessly into our default mode, which is buddy comedy. And taking
things seriously? No, that's nearly impossible. For this episode of Dinner's on Me, we switched
things up a little bit. Instead of our guests coming to us, we went to them. Specifically,
we hopped on a plane to Utah
to track down my friend Ty.
Now, I had about eight hours on the ground
before I had to turn right back around
and catch another flight.
So efficiency was key here.
The obvious solution, an Airbnb.
And not just any Airbnb.
This place was straight out of a cozy winter dream.
A crackling fireplace, snow falling outside,
the whole ski cabin fantasy.
I might need to come back here
just to live my best apres ski life.
Uh, minus the skiing.
But back to business. We're setting up,
the clock is ticking, and we've got a meal to eat
and a podcast to record.
Oh, he's calling me. Hello?
Hi.
Hi. Um... I think I'm here. to record. No soundstage. No soundstage. It's just an Airbnb.
No green screen.
No green screen.
Hair and makeup's waiting for you.
Wait one second.
We ordered in from Ty's restaurant Beer Bar in Salt Lake City.
His brother Duncan, who you'll hear off-mic, graciously brought us a smorgasbord of goodies
for us.
The spot is known for its bratwursts and fries, but it has tons of other great things like sandwiches
and burgers and salads. Ty has done something really cool here in Salt Lake City and Park City.
With his partners, which include his brother Duncan and his wife Holly, he revitalized bars
and restaurants that really mean something to the community. From the historic Cotton Bottom Inn, which is an Opry ski favorite, to Bar X, which harkens back
to Prohibition. So it felt special to come to his neck of the woods and try some delicious bites
from his spot, Beer Bar. Also, I should note, anytime you hear us say Julie, Eric, Nolan, Aubrey,
Sarah, Ariel, etc., we're obviously talking about our modern family castmates.
Sorry, we don't use last names,
but we should start referring to each other
by our full names, I think.
Okay, let's get to our conversation with Ty Burrell.
I miss you so much.
When was the last time we saw each other?
I think when we did that, the SAG Awards last year.
Yeah, yeah, it was one of those.
But yeah, the SAG Awards were hilarious.
That was so funny.
We were so bad.
I know, that's what I'm saying.
It was such a shit show.
That's what I was saying.
It was like, they haven't lost a step.
Right.
Oh my God.
But in a weird way, you know, in that meta way
that that can be even better.
Yeah.
Like that was so, I laughed so hard being there
with all the people that I loved
and just screwing the pooch completely.
It wasn't that bad.
No, it wasn't that bad.
But actually weirdly, it just immediately became
one of my favorite memories.
Yeah, same.
I mean, we had been trying to get you also,
we had had a few reunions before.
This was the first time that all six of us had been together,
I think, since the show had.
The six of us had been together since the show ended.
We had that one big reunion.
That I couldn't make it to.
That hilariously.
Well, I died.
Famously you died.
Remember how I died?
The internet decided you had died.
Do you remember when I died?
Yeah.
Ah.
My favorite part of this, though,
was that we had all planned it.
And you were just like, I think I'm going to be able to come.
I think I'm going to be able to come.
Yeah, yeah.
And then you're like, oh, you know what?
I forgot I have surgery.
Yeah.
But it actually added.
So after that whole thing,
everybody in the cast was telling me
that apparently I had passed.
But the only photos I had of me missing that
were me in the hospital from surgery.
Ha ha ha ha!
Uh, it was so funny.
It was very, when we look back on that,
because we brought a photo of you
to sort of include you in all the family pictures,
and we're like, well, yeah,
it's sort of like we're having a memorial for you.
But I think the joke was that that photo
was one of your least favorite press photos
you had ever taken.
You're basically punishing me for missing,
which I deserved.
That's right. Which I deserved.
It was the photo of me in the headphones
doing the rock.
The rock and roll heavy metal sign.
Rock and roll heavy metal sign.
I'm only in my early 80s.
But that was the first real lesson we got in PR.
Yeah.
Like if you do something, it will end up
in the photo that is in Times Square.
That you have to editorialize beforehand,
like not after the fact.
I have the same thing.
The same thing.
I actually got my picture changed.
So Phil was the obviously cool dad,
so he had headphones and was doing the rock and roll.
Obviously.
Obviously, obviously.
Haley had her cell phone that she was busy on.
Right.
Sarah was putting on lipstick.
And me and Eric, because it was a line about cream puffs.
Well, they're gay.
They're gay.
And we had a line about cream puffs in the pilot,
so it was us holding a cream puff.
And me, on probably like, maybe like the last shot
of like a series that we were taking,
decided to do like a really insane face of like,
isn't this wild, I'm a wacky gay man.
And that's the photo that they chose
and used on all these posters.
And it ended up in Times Square.
I stood in Times Square and looked up
at your cream puff face.
But then I actually was successful
in getting them to change it.
Yes, I learned a lot of lessons on that.
I said, let's just, can we find any photo anywhere?
It could be of me in seventh grade
that we can like, where my face is just calm.
Just a nice, like loose smile.
I was very impressed with that, that you got that changed.
What I leaned into and what I was like,
I was like, listen, I'm playing a gay character
on network television.
I'm really proud of this relationship that they have.
It's a committed couple.
We're meeting them in the first scenes of they're adopting a child.
Can we just pick the photo where I don't look like I'm doing a cliché?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just wish there was something culturally inappropriate about the headphones that I
could have used.
I had nothing but just my own, it was just my own fault.
And after that, that photo shoot,
anytime we'd walk in and we'd see a table of props,
we'd all be like, no, no, no.
We're not using any of your props.
I think there was a time there
when photographers didn't love us,
and I don't think we were mean about it.
But we were just like, no, no props.
No thank you, no props.
But we had a whole.
Yeah, they didn't know our baggage.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
First of all, people have been dying
to have you on this podcast.
Oh my gosh.
You're like on my 92nd person that I've had on this podcast.
Well, in preparation, I listened to our mutual friend,
Josh Gad's episode,
which was fantastic.
And I listened, I'm in the middle of Ed's.
Ed's is great.
Which is amazing.
And I just have to say, you are so good.
You're so well suited for this.
Thank you.
Really, this is like right in your wheelhouse.
I'm so happy for you.
I'm having fun with it.
Are you?
Yeah, it's a nice thing to be doing, yeah.
Yeah, but really, like, you're such
a naturally curious person.
And for people listening, if you don't know,
I mean, you know how funny Jesse is,
but he is probably the funniest person
in terms of quantity and quality I've ever met.
Nobody has more bits that are solid.
No, but you are one of the cast members, obviously,
you know, that people get so excited
when I have any of the Modern Family people on,
but I think because you also don't do a lot of press
when you don't have to, I mean, why would you?
And you know you're not on social media,
and you have a private life, which is great
You live out here in Utah, which is why I didn't you would have come to me, but I wanted to come to you
I would have for sure yeah, this is I mean you want to feed my narcissism
Just come come all the way to Utah to do a podcast
Eat food from your restaurant. Yeah speaking of food
Duncan
I think it might be, it might be.
Brother Duncan, it's a family affair.
My brother's bringing us food this morning
just because he's a nice person.
He is, he's just a good person.
He's just a great guy, you know what you see him.
From Beer Bar.
From Beer Bar, yeah.
So wait, let's talk about that for a little,
well first of all, I just wanna finish my thought,
just say that I'm so happy you're doing this
because so many people have been really
jonesing for you to be on this.
I am happy to do anything with you, friend. Really, truly.
Ooooo!
That's my brother!
I think the wieners are here!
Right on cue!
I think the sauerkraut's here.
Speak of the devil.
Hi bro-bro!
We, a few months ago, led by Dunk and Rich and the other owner, decided that brats were,
you know, we've kind of been doing them for a long time, so let's really like step up our game.
And so we did something much more sophisticated and we started making sandwiches.
Oh, and how did you think of this? So between two breads.
Yeah, so now we're doing different ingredients between bread.
You know, before, let me just be clear, before it was bratwurst between bread.
Between bread.
And then we were like, no, let's do something much more exciting.
This is genius.
People might steal this idea.
Right.
So this is, which one is this?
That's the...
The turkey.
Yeah, the turkey.
Turkey and that's pastrami.
And then we got the French dip.
French dip is that one.
I brought this closer.
Okay.
Alright.
Alright.
Alright.
Oh my god, all these sloesses.
Cheers, pal.
Cheers.
Good to see you. So Good to see you.
So good to see you.
Under absolutely normal circumstances.
Absolutely 100% normal.
So there's Bar X and Beer Bar.
Bar X came first.
Bar X came first.
What was Bar X before?
It was a functioning bar and then it was closed for a while, right? Yeah, really the credit there goes to one of our owners, Jeff Bernard, who kind of started
this accidental brand that we've stumbled into of finding places that are a little bit
run down or on their last legs in some cases, and sort of, you know, trying to restore the
spirit of them and, you know, bring some newness to it, but also just sort of like kind of
keep an institution going a little bit, a local institution.
And Beer Bar came afterwards, which I've eaten at before I've gone in.
I have been inside.
Yeah, you've been here before. You came up a couple of times. Oh yeah, we've been have been inside. Yeah, you've been here before.
You came up a couple of times.
Yeah, we've been a few times.
Yeah, I was gonna say.
Well, I know one time I stayed with you
and then another time we stayed in a hotel.
Okay, this French dip is incredible.
It's really good, huh?
That's awesome.
You're supposed to play it down.
No, I mean, thank you.
Are you sure?
Thank you.
I don't remember.
This is so good.
But it is interesting that, I mean,
you've always been a family man.
Family's been very important to you,
which I think is why.
From my understanding, when you talk about Utah,
when we were doing Modern Family,
it just felt, for you, a very comfortable place
to sort of get away.
Obviously, you had a place in Los Angeles
because you spent so much time there,
but it was really important for you
to raise a family
here in Utah and be near your in-laws and your family.
And I mean, I was a tad envious of just the fact
that you got to sort of separate work
and your family life a little bit.
Talk to me a little bit about just like why you chose
to sort of make this your home and yeah
So Holly's from here. That was a big part of it. I did some of my first theater at
Utah shakes which is in southern Utah and I just I fell in love with it, but this is before I met Holly
So shakes, what do you mean like like Shakespeare? Sorry? Oh, sorry. Yeah, what a what a inside?
Dumb thing to say.
Will Shakespeare.
Will Shakespeare, Billy Shakespeare.
The Shakespeare Festival, and I fell in love with it,
and then when Holly and I got together,
it had always been in the back of our mind
to live here at some point.
I mean, to be 100% honest, I don't think we really thought it through when we did it. it had always been in the back of our mind to live here at some point.
To be 100% honest, I don't think we really thought it through when we did it because
it's impacted work in a serious way because any job that I would take means leaving home.
I've become outdoorsy,
for lack of a better term.
Become?
I have always known you to be like
the poster child for outdoorsy.
Well, but I think early on it was sort of like cosplay.
Okay.
Like I was a little bit like.
Really?
A little bit, yeah.
Even though we grew up in the woods of Oregon,
I wasn't really like super outdoorsy.
But I think eventually I just,
I did it enough that I genuinely have fallen in love with it.
So we spend a lot of time outside here.
And also Salt Lake is just,
it's just a welcoming place.
I mean, it's growing like crazy.
So you have to kinda, I think everybody who's been here
for a long time is a little curious and concerned
about how the growth will go.
How it's growing, yeah.
And I'm sure raising a family here must be such a,
there's so much to do and there's just it's I
Feel like there's just a wholesome and part of it. It's such a you know, it's the Mormon culture
So I'm probably in here, but like I think it's it's just a very wholesome family oriented place and it is
It is that's one of the real strengths of
The LDS culture up here is they is they have figured out every possible family entertainment
thing.
I mean, when our kids were younger, there's just an endless amount of stuff to do.
Like you said, it's all super dialed in and a lot of it is connected to nature and it's
really cool.
I know you're not you're not Mormon yourself
No been embraced by
My in-laws are LDS and they are some of the most wonderful they really are. Yeah, you know them
Justin was reminding me, you know speaking about being an outdoors person. Yeah how a few years ago you and Holly very generously
invited us to
Do a backpack packing, camping trip tour thing in the Grand Canyon.
It's something that you have to sign up for years in advance.
All these spots fill up very quickly and you had two spots available.
Justin was like, oh, 100%.
We absolutely have to do that.
And I was sort of surprised.
I was like, oh, Justin, that's not what I thought
you would say yes to.
Okay, let's do it.
I used to camp when I was a kid in Albuquerque.
I haven't done it recently, but I was like, yeah,
Ty and Holly are doing it.
And I consider you an outdoorsman,
even though some of your stuff was very performative.
I remember one Christmas you got one of those axes
from Huckabee or something, it was a beautiful axe.
That was in full cosplay era, where I was just like,
if I buy enough of this stuff and dress up,
eventually I'll be outdoorsman.
It's like you have a compass, but it's really gold-plated.
Yeah, it's brass.
It's brass, and you know, it's like,
it sinks to your Apple Watch or whatever.
You read me like a cheap novel.
Yeah, I know.
So anyway, I was like, I feel safe going
to the Grand Canyon with Ty and Holly.
They're really gonna know how to do this.
And at one point, I was like,
Justin, just let me gather a little bit more information
from Ty about what this is.
And he was like, what's the shower situation?
The shower situation is called the river.
It's the river.
It's the river, which is extremely cold.
So you know, sometimes people just don't shower for the week.
Yeah, it was hardcore.
Interestingly, Holly ended up being way more into it
than I was even.
Like she got super into it.
I got really scared about the rapids.
The rapids.
Well you're a...
I'm a wimp.
Yeah, you are.
I didn't want to say, I was gonna use that word,
but you're gentle.
You're a gentle little flower.
I'm a gentle little flower.
Press me between two panes of glass. Yeah.
So as the rapids got more intense,
and then the last day, I think, were these really hardcore,
legendary rapids.
And she was the one who was fired into fire.
She was screaming into the wild.
Didn't Nolan join you?
Nolan was there.
Oh my god, that.
Have you heard those stories?
He's told me some of them.
I wonder if this is a good place for those stories.
Nolan, for listeners who don't know,
Nolan is just a really intrepid person.
He is really adventurous.
He loves a challenge.
We start out and he, not having kayaked before in his life,
that I know of, decided
to kayak the Grand Canyon, which, by the way, Nolan is somebody who could do that.
It was not like, what are you thinking?
I was like, yeah, if anybody can do this, it's Nolan.
I think it was the first day. He went under, he got tipped, and he can correct me
if I'm wrong here, and got out relatively quickly
and got back in and wanted to continue doing it.
So he'd already been in the water.
It's cold, cold weather, not quite hypothermic,
but very close.
Yeah. By the way, also your bathtub, if you're hypothermic, but very close. Yeah.
By the way, also your bathtub, if you're
wanting to cleanse yourself during the night.
Yeah, also your bathtub.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just so you know.
And then a little bit later in the day, he tipped and went
under and was under for, this doesn't sound like a long time,
but I think he was under for like 16 seconds.
That's scary.
He was being held down by a hydro, you know, whatever that is a hydraulic system for 16 seconds and
he came up, you know, I could see him start to kind of come up and reach his hand up and
Pulled him onto the boat and he was white as a ghost
He still wanted to get back on
Incredible. That's no I would have been been like, that's it for me.
No, I said no more, I got to play Dad.
I got to play TV Dad.
He was like, you're done, you're done.
But that was probably the most Dad moment
I got to be with Nolan.
Incredible.
I mean, that's so Nolan.
Yeah.
Oh, he's awesome.
I'm so glad that he was able to go on that with you.
He speaks of it often, actually.
Yeah, it was awesome.
It was awesome.
I mean, I certainly understand.
I am very close with Aubrey.
I've gone to see several first school plays.
Yeah.
Beckett, my son, is a little older than Aubrey
was when she started.
So I look at him and I'm like,
I can't believe I've known her since she was around his age.
Which was, how old was she?
I think she was four, in Beckett's stuff, four and a half.
Whoa.
I mean, I know you stood close with obviously all of us,
but what is it like for you to see Sarah
and Ariel and Nolan?
It's awesome, it's awesome.
I just love all three of them so much.
I don't get to see them very much, you know.
It's a lot of like.
You don't get to see any of us very much.
No I don't.
Because you live on a lake
with just coordinates as your address.
It's true, it's true.
I have no excuses but you know a lot of like.
There are times by the way I've called you
and you're like, oh I've been off the grid
for the past 10 days.
That's, spring through fall is kind of like,
that is kind of the normal.
It's just dodgy.
But it's a lot of like birthday communications,
you know that kind of thing where we check in around,
you know, significant dates and stuff.
But I adore all three of them.
And when I get a chance to be with them, I love it.
I think the world of them, you know,
they're all three so different
and just such awesome people and just easy company.
I'm sure it's the same with Aubrey, right?
Like you kind of like, from afar,
I'm just rooting for them in a semi-parental way.
Yeah, from far, far.
Yeah, it's so far, very far away by a lake.
Aubrey's really into theater, right?
She's not only really into theater,
but she's really good.
I believe it.
She's really good in a way that,
I thought she was good on the show,
but there's something about,
and it's kind of the same reason why I love theater,
and probably some of the same reasons
that you love it, it's just that preparation time
you get with it and you get to really,
I don't want to sound pretentious,
but peel back the layers of the onion.
But you really know what you're doing
and it's not like you rehearse something for five minutes
and then you're shooting it and you just like,
you barely know what you're doing.
I just really see Aubrey blossoming in such a beautiful way
with that type of work.
And I think that she's got so much potential.
I think she's really, really good.
That's awesome.
There's also no better way to develop real chops,
because there's just so many hours of actually performing.
Like what we're doing on the show
or what a lot of young actors are doing
when they're making something is often like
six lines in a scene and you do it seven times.
You do your prep, you do your prep
and then you do it like seven takes and you're done.
And that whole time you're just, especially you,
you were always really good with your lines,
but if you were wanting to talk to Ty during a scene,
it's not possible because you were hold away,
looking at a corner, literally facing a corner,
running your lines, hand to forehead,
like looking like you were about to have a nervous,
blinking like crazy, which is your tell
when you're focused or stressed.
Stressed or excited or or excited or excited
But but if I'm like trying to memorize it's it's just a blink
It's like a breeze is coming from the eyelashes. Yes, like in fact that dates back to the moment we met
The moment we met I was doing that I was by pray tell I was auditioning for Modern Family,
and I was standing in the corner, facing the corner,
creating a breeze with my eyelashes,
going over my lines, and you came up
and tapped me on the shoulder, and I think it was,
you said, hey, I think we're both friends with Josh.
That's right, Josh Gad, yeah.
And yeah, I remember I said,
I think we're both friends with Josh Gad,
and we knew of each other,
but that was the first time we were meeting.
And you were very, very nervous,
because this was not your first time coming in
and testing for the part in front of the studio of it.
But also, I was so struck by how relaxed you were.
What was I doing, do you remember?
You were just being a human.
I was reading the New York Times.
Were you?
I was.
I was doing the New York Times crossword you? I was. I was like doing the New York Times crossword puzzle
or reading like the style section or something.
I do remember that.
Was it self-conscious or was it really like
I just, I really genuinely am not nervous?
I wasn't nervous.
It wasn't like a thing?
I was nervous.
I had anxiety around it but I,
I was coming out from a different place.
You had been going in.
You already kind of had the role.
I don't know if that's true but I was coming out of from a different place. You had been going in. You already kind of had the role. I don't know if that's true, but I was being very,
it was a very encouraging process up to that point.
You did not have the same experience.
I mean, I know you've talked about it before,
but like it took a lot of fighting to get that part.
Now, like, I don't think anyone would,
could imagine anyone else doing it,
but it's just sort of a testament
to how crazy this business is.
You can have so many people rooting for you.
You could have the people who wrote the show
rooting for you.
You could have the casting director rooting for you.
And it takes one person who's like,
I'm not quite sure to pump the brakes on that.
Totally.
So yeah, so I really flopped the first test,
like just so tight and stiff and nervous.
Second one, when I saw you, was a little bit better,
but once again, thumbs down.
And then.
Do you remember what feedback you got?
Or did you get feedback or was it just me?
He's not funny.
Oh wow.
Yeah, he's not funny.
Oh my god.
Yeah, so pretty straightforward.
I don't know if that's feedback.
I think that's just...
Yeah, he's not funny.
And some people still feel that way.
Well, Holly, after you've been doing a bet
for about 10 minutes, also thinks you're not too funny.
But you know.
Then we went and filmed.
Right.
Filmed it in Steve Levitan's yard.
With Sarah Hyland.
With Sarah and Jason Miner.
Who was being tested for it.
Who was, yes, exactly.
And we got to improvise and, you know,
do a more like single camera audition for it.
Right.
And that one worked, but yeah.
It's amazing that Hoopsie had to jump through.
I always find it wildly fascinating
that that's how you get that part.
Have you ever had one that you had to fight?
Never.
Never.
No, no, I'm sure.
I'm sure I have.
You never tested with Julie then?
No, no. I met her first, one of the table reads.
Okay. I met her, yeah.
I remember this table, I think it was the same table
read that we all met. She's very pregnant.
She's very pregnant, she's nine months pregnant.
I think this is a table read where we all met
for the first time then.
It was like a pre-table read before reading the script
for the network, before shooting the pilot.
And Chris and Steve, our creators,
brought us into, our creators,
the people who birthed us.
Chris and Jesus.
Chris and Jesus and Steve brought us into a room
and that was the first time we met.
So that was the first time we met Julie.
I mean that could have gone so many different ways.
I mean she's just so gregarious, luckily.
Yes.
I mean, she's a very welcoming person.
I was nervous for those table reads,
because I've been fired from table reads before.
A lot of people don't know that, but table reads
aren't really like done deal.
No.
People get cut from table reads a lot.
Yeah.
A lot.
Yes.
Like at a shocking rate.
No, I know. So those table reads, lot. Yeah. A lot. Yes. Like at a shocking rate.
No, I know, yeah.
So those table reads, I was really nervous.
Or they'll shoot the pilot and decide,
oh, we want to reshoot this with a whole other actor.
Yeah, no, you're not guaranteed the job
when you're given the job.
No, it's like you need to be like two or three episodes in.
In fact, I don't know if you know this,
but Eric Stone Street, when we did that very first
table read for the network,
and remember we were at a big conference room
at the Disney Studios, and it was a room
that we never did a table read in again.
Like we did it at the Disney Studios.
And Eric, he was convinced, like he had said
for some last few days, he just didn't get it,
and bombed, and he was convinced he was being fired.
And right after we finished that table read,
they pulled Eric and I into the hallway
to take a photo of us because they needed to have
a template to paint the mural that Mitch and Cam
paint over Lily's bed.
And basically they were going to impose our faces
onto this mural and
Eric took these pictures in a panic
Like in his eyes, you could just see like I don't know whether taking this picture. I'm gonna be fired anyways
And so of course he wasn't fired
But what we love so much and every time we looked at that mural was Eric was like that the eyes
And now I'm terrified in season five like season But I don't know how long that mural stereo sit up for the show because eyes. Are terrified. In season five, like season,
I don't know how long that mural stayed up for the show.
Cause at one point they painted over it,
but he's like, those are the eyes of an actor
who thinks he's being fired.
But that those eyes are like attached to like
Sam as an angelic angel in the sky.
I just, the eyes of Mitchell are just like steely confidence.
I nailed it.
That was the table read.
I don't know if you remember this,
when I walked in very confidently and said,
I rented an apartment nearby so that I didn't have
to drive to work and you guys all had to tell me
that we weren't filming there.
Don't remember that.
I rented a place right near by ABC.
And I was like, well, guess who doesn't have to drive to work?
And they were like, we're filming at Fox.
That is so funny.
I went from like a 10 minute walk to the longest commute in the entire cast.
Well then, okay, well, I just wanted to talk about this for a while, because you did get, you ended up moving very close to the studio.
Yeah.
And, you know, I mean, as the show went on,
like, one thing you always notice if the show's successful
is the cars that you drive onto the lot get a little nicer.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, I then had a Prius, you know, as before.
I had like a little mini coupe.
And you kind of went the opposite way,
and you purchased a renovated VW Bug.
I did, yeah.
Which was incredible, by the way.
I love that car, I still have it.
You do?
I do.
That dark green car.
It's now, I'll show you pictures later,
but I'm in the middle of getting it painted.
Oh nice. Yeah, I bought show you pictures later, but I'm in the middle of getting it painted. Oh, nice.
Yeah, I bought it from a gentleman in Louisiana,
so it came on a flatbed truck,
and they pull it off the truck,
we're in Culver City, you know, kind of not huge blocks,
pulled it off the truck,
and I'm like, I gotta take it for a spin.
Frankie, our daughter is probably, you know,
nine months old, 10 months old.
It's there and I go, I gotta drive it.
So I get in it and I drive around the block
and I notice that the transmission,
I mean, you don't know when you're buying something
like this what kind of condition it's in.
Sure.
I notice the transmission's a little loose,
but you know, I'm kind of finding the gears and stuff.
And I get around.
And Holly loves to drive stick shift.
So she was like, I want to give it a shot.
And I also was kind of coaxing her, like, you got to just try.
Like, we have a vintage car.
I mean, this is how fun it is.
The way this thing hums.
Yeah, the way this thing hums.
So she hands me Frankie.
And I'm holding Frankie. and she gets in the car and it's sort of haltingly
going down the street and I see her turn right.
Between there and basically like another hundred yards, the transmission is now like, it's
worse.
It's looser and she's having a hard time getting it
into first gear.
Anyway, cut to about a minute later,
I see her kind of like jerking around the corner,
little by little, followed by a police officer.
And she pulls the car not all the way off the street,
about just the front wheels are into the driveway
of where we're at, and she gets out and she leaves.
And she knew there was a police officer there.
And I was like, honey, honey.
She's running from the law.
I'm holding a baby.
And the cop was like, where's she going?
And I was like, I don't know. I don't know. And I'm holding a baby and the cop was like, where's she going? And I was like, I don't know.
I don't know.
And I'm just like, she was so mad at me.
And she was like, this is not my problem.
And he was sort of like, this isn't how the law works.
It's a great lesson to every young person out there.
If the police are chasing you, just leave.
Just leave. Just leave, change your name and move to a lake with unknown coordinates. They give up. They do give up. They'll give up. It's best if you have a baby.
Yeah, have a baby. Get yourself a baby. Have a baby and leave. And then leave that baby.
Now for a quick break from my very special episode
with my Modern Family co-star, the one and only Ty Burrell.
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but every time we do, it's like no time has passed.
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really good takeout. Okay, and we're back with more Dinners on Me. I will say, I was always a little jealous
that you and Julie started your families
as early as you did because.
Well, it's funny you say early,
because I was at 40, 41, but yeah.
But you know, in the midst of having a steady job.
Yes, yes.
And having a place to go and knowing how to pay check,
you became a dad very quickly.
I mean, the process, I know you and Holly adopted,
and there was a process where you,
you know, it was a stop and go process for a while.
And kind of a heartbreaking one at the beginning as well.
You know, there was a lot of disappointment.
And I remember sitting with you and Holly,
we were filming the episode in Hawaii,
but you were like, well, I think, you know,
there's been a lot of disappointment
and heartbreak and we're just gonna like wait and see,
we're gonna take a break from it,
we're stepping back from it.
And literally, maybe the next day or a few days later,
there was word that there was a baby that you could.
There was a baby that was in need.
Yeah, and you jumped on it.
And it happened literally overnight,
after a lot of heartbreak.
Yeah, well, it's funny because I think
there's a lot of misconceptions, obviously,
about adoption, but one of them is that
it's sort of tidy in that way.
But it's a lot like having a kid biologically,
you know, that it's just, there's a lot like biological, having a kid biologically. You know, that it's just, it's,
there's a lot of ups and downs and chapters
and you know, a lot of that.
And that one was unbelievably abrupt.
Yeah.
I think we had 36 hours.
And you were, were you in Hawaii when you got the news?
We were filming that.
We flew home.
Holly flew straight to Utah.
We were filming, so I actually stayed.
And then went to Utah.
I think we had a week off after that episode
and met her there.
And then, and this has impacted my career choices a lot about,
do you remember this?
About five weeks into that, I took a job,
I took a film in Louisiana,
and it was the worst decision of my life.
I left Holly to try to take care of that baby,
and I was gone for five weeks,
and I regretted it from the minute I left.
Ty, do you remember when I went to go visit you in New York,
and you were in a hotel, I think it was for up front,
so like, yeah, we were all there, and I went to your room,
just like, we were gonna go travel
to whatever we were going to together,
and you were getting ready, and Holly was there,
I remember this, and your phone was ringing.
And I didn't hear it.
And you, first of all you didn't hear it,
but it was like an old,
it was like your cell phone was ringing.
And then when you finally did hear it,
you went to the hotel phone and picked it up
and were like, hello?
Ah!
And Holly was just like, Ty, Ty.
She's thinking I'm doing a bit.
Yeah, you don't have great hearing.
Is it still bad?
I have, I wish I knew the brand,
because I would absolutely plug them at no cost.
I have hearing aids now.
Oh really?
That are so far up my ear, my canal,
they're like in my brain.
Yeah.
But they are awesome. They're incredible.
They really like, I don't know the brand,
but they're just called Way Up the Canal.
WayUpTheCanal.com.
I mean, I'm glad you got that.
I'm glad you're hearing better now.
I see you.
But it's not as funny now that I can hear.
It's not as funny.
I mean, one of my favorite stories
is when you and Holly were getting a massage, a couples massage together.
And they already whisper in those circumstances
you can't hear to begin with.
It's the first and last couples massage we ever had.
We're laying down.
They've got the like,
boom, boom, boom, boom.
And then, you know, massage.
What's up?
Holly's, is the pressure good enough for you?
Yeah, it is.
Thank you.
You can turn over now.
What's up?
Holly, you can turn over now. What's that? Holly, you can turn over now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
For an hour and 20 minutes, Holly was like.
Just tense.
Yeah, she, oh my god.
So funny.
I love it so much.
Yeah, she was not happy.
Oh god.
Never again.
It's really, really funny.
How has? What else?
What else?
Well, I do want to know...
I mean, I know some of this myself, but I feel like people find this so interesting.
It's what I've been talking about with all the people from Modern Family who we've had
on, but just that transitional period of coming off...
Before you got Modern Family, they were both back to you and out of practice, which were
two sitcoms, I think had a lot of promise,
and people were really thinking
that these were gonna hit big.
They had huge stars.
Chris Lloyd was involved with both of them.
Off of, of course, huge hits like Cheers and stuff.
The first one was Stocker Channing.
Henry Winkler and Chris Gorham.
Right, Great cast.
And then the next one was Kelsey Grammer and Patricia Heaton.
Fred.
Fred Willard.
Josh.
Josh Gad.
Great cast.
And both of those didn't go.
I mean, all I ever wanted was a sitcom.
I knew that was sort of like what I truly loved.
After having done it a little bit,
it was like, this is what I love.
This is, I like the life around it.
And specifically those multi-camera sitcoms
where you get a performing for a live audience.
Yes, and because your lifestyle is so great
and the work is so great, that's all I wanted.
And after those failures, I was kind of like,
I mean, there was a moment when Duncan and I
were thinking about making t-shirts for a living.
Yeah.
But yeah, I got gun shy.
And then to end up with the ultimate version, which really
was like a job that cannot be replicated, where you really like
the material, you like the people you work with, and the schedule was unbelievable.
But you had done other sitcoms, right?
I did Abraham Higginbotham, who was one of the Roger and Modern Family.
I had done his show the year before, and it was the first show canceled of that season.
Okay.
Yeah, so you'd had the same experience. But to go from the first show canceled in 2008
to the show that won the Emmy in 2009 was quite the rise,
if I must say so myself.
Not because of me, but what luck, truly.
I remember specifically that last season
being so emotional.
Like I just, every step of the way,
it felt like a new flagpole of like,
okay, that's last time we're going to be doing that.
That's last time we're going to be doing that.
Yeah, me too.
What were your, what was that last year like for you?
Yeah, same, same.
I think, yeah, it's just, it was such a dream.
I think, yeah, it's just, it was such a dream,
such a daydream of a show that it was hard to like,
it was hard to make sense of what a perfect job it was, and as it got closer to the end,
it started to become clearer that like,
you know, this is just, this just doesn't happen.
Yeah. So I think as time got closer,
you started to really spend more of your downtime on set with the crew,
and with everybody just chatting.
Then I think that last scene of the show was very much,
it was pretty meta.
Yeah.
Because it was really just us saying goodbye, I think.
I don't think anybody was really in character or anything.
Didn't feel like it, just felt like.
No, and like our loved ones had come to the set,
Justin was there, Holly was there.
Yeah, yeah, it was amazing.
I mean, you have to make peace, too,
that those jobs don't really exist.
It was sort of like the last one in some ways.
Yeah.
In some ways.
It was like maybe the last show that people watched.
I don't know.
Maybe I'm wrong, but.
No, it's making sense.
If it's set on a podcast, it's true.
It's true.
Oh, great.
I don't need to Google this, right? No, no, no, no, no, no. Just saying. Great, great's true. It's true. Oh great, I don't need to Google this, right?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Just saying.
Great, great, great.
It's on the record.
Yeah, so it's the greatest show of all time.
Some would agree.
And nobody's ever watched more of a television show.
Some would agree.
Yeah, I've totally lost my train of thought.
No, but it was, I think it lost my train of thought.
But it was, I think it was the last of a network show.
Oh yeah, that's what I was saying.
It felt a little bit like that too.
Like, oh gosh, this is an era.
Yeah, for sure, I completely agree with that.
Brian Crenser, when he was on, he was talking about
the show that you two are working on together.
Yeah, we're getting closer to that, actually.
There's some challenges because it's called Tightrope.
It's all on green screen.
And it's this bonkers idea that Brian
had about putting me into an old TV show.
Did he explain this?
Yes, a little bit.
But tell me more about it.
I'm playing the lead character in this pretty poorly made TV
show from the 50s.
The show is called Tightrope and they're just putting me
into the actual show.
And then changing my dialogue.
Everybody else's dialogue stays the same
and my dialogue's the same.
But it's great to do from here because it's all green screen.
So I don't actually have to.
Oh, you get to do it from here?
I either do it here or be gone for a week or something
to shoot the whole season. Do they, like if the director will come to you, right?
Well, that or I can just be gone for a minute.
Or you just put up a green sheet in your bedroom?
Yeah, in my bedroom.
And wear green clothes.
And wear green clothes.
But yeah, it's really, it's such a fun,
we shot a little bit of it,
just sort of like a proof of concept.
And it was a blast.
Have you seen it here, the way it looks?
Yeah, I think it looks great.
That's exciting.
I think it looks great.
Yeah, I think we're...
He was really excited about it when he was talking.
Yeah, yeah.
I think it's going to be fun.
I think we're angling for the spring, so...
Yeah, I'm really excited for that.
I am so happy that this worked out.
Me too, me too.
I feel like we've really achieved something here.
We've traveled to you.
I can't believe you did.
I love you for it.
Talked about your beautiful restaurants.
Oh man, you're.
Got to see you.
Got to see you my friend.
I love you.
It's snowing out.
I know.
So we are gonna do a quick photo shoot
in this hot tub out here.
Great, let's do it.
Let's do it.
Fully clothed.
I love you so much.
I love you too.
And you know what, dinner's on you. Heyully clothed. I love you so much. I love you too. And you know what?
Dinner's on you.
Hey, new podcast.
Oh, hey, spin-offs.
Mine now.
It's mine now.
Hey, you thought you had a podcast?
Dinner's on you.
Guess what?
I'm the captain of this podcast now.
Ha ha ha.
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