DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode: 2025 Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame Nominees and Helter Skelter

Episode Date: April 10, 2025

Oasis, Bad Company, Black Crowes, OutKast, White Stripes, Joe Cocker, Joy Division / New Order, Chubby Checker, Cyndi Lauper, Mana, Phish, Soundgarden, Billy Idol, and Mariah Carey.Which 7 artists wou...ld you choose to induct into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? Will Billy Idol, the consummate rock 'n' roll animal, make the cut?Next week, we're bringing you a story on Mama Cass Elliot and her connection to Charles Manson and the Tate LaBianca murders. We want to know: Do you believe that the accepted narrative on Helter Skelter is true? Did Manson kill for the reasons they said he did? Tell Jake at 617-906-6638, disgracelandpod@gmail.com, or on socials @disgracelandpod. For more great Disgraceland episodes, dive into our extensive archive, including such episodes as:Episodes 77 and 78 - OasisEpisode 137 - New OrderEpisode 202 - The CrampsEpisode 156 - Mariah Carey To hear an extended version of the After Party and unlock access to a monthly exclusive episode and ad free listening, become a Disgraceland All Access member at disgracelandpod.com/membership. This month's episode (coming soon) will be on the Allman Brothers Band.Visit www.disgracelandpod.com/merch to see the latest Disgraceland merch!Sign up for our newsletter and get the inside dirt on events, merch and other awesomeness - GET THE NEWSLETTERFollow Jake and DISGRACELAND:InstagramYouTubeX (formerly Twitter)  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 This is exactly right. Double Elvis. Hey, Discos, need a little more disgrace land in your life? Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the After Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode.
Starting point is 00:00:44 A little thing we like to call the After Party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig into it. the dirt. On this bonus episode, we are talking about this week's full episode subject, Billy Idol. We're previewing the coming Charles Manson, Mama Cash, Sharon Tate Madness that'll be in your disgrace land and Hollywoodland feed shortly. We're talking rock and roll Hall of Fame blues, and we get into your voicemails, text, DMs, emails, and as always, a whole lot of rosy.
Starting point is 00:01:14 All right, discos, let's get into it. Billy Idol this week's full episode subject of disgraceland was, as you by now learned if you listened, a true rock and roll animal as we like to say few musicians lived as dangerously and as wild as billy isle did and fewer still live to tell about it billy is on the short list of rock and roll animalism that short list with like keith moon keith richards small handful of others billy idle is also on another list he's on the list of musicians nominated this year to the rock and roll hall of fame along with Billy Idol, Oasis, Bad Company, Black Crows, Outcast, White Stripes, Joe Cocker, Joy Division, and New Order as one band. How does that make sense? I'm not sure. Chubby Checker, Cindy Lopper,
Starting point is 00:02:17 Mana, Fish, Soundgarden, and Mariah Carey are all nominated. That's with Billy Idol, 14 nominees. Now, only seven are going to get in. Only seven are going to get into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Does Billy Idol deserve to be one of these seven? That's what I want to figure out. Again, here's the list. Oasis, bad company, Black Crowers, Outcast, White Stripes, Joe Cocker, Joy Division, and New Orator, Trubby Checker, Cindy Lopper, Mana Fish, Soundgarden, and Mariah Carey. So which seven are you choosing from that list? If it's me, I'd nominate Bad Brains, Grand Parsons, New York Dolls, Motorhead,
Starting point is 00:02:57 and the Smiths before I'd nominate most of this list. But that is another story. Let's stick to the cards we've been dealt here in 2025. You have seven artists you can choose from this list of 14 artists. Oasis, bad company, Black Crow's, Outcast, White Sries, Joe Cocker, Joy, Division, and New Order, Chubby Checker, Sini Lop, Mata, Fish, Soundgarden, A, and Mariah. Carrie, who are you choosing for your seven? Now, rock and roll, Hall of Fame inductees are chosen by a mix of industry insiders and a fan vote.
Starting point is 00:03:30 right now the fan vote has the following seven artists in the lead with what I would assume is the best chance of getting in when the polls close on April 21st. They are in reverse order. Number seven, with the most votes, number seven, chubby checker. Number six, Joe Cocker. Number five, our friends who we've been talking a lot about here in disgrace land lately, Soundgarden. Number four, Cindy Lopper.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Number three, our guy Billy Idol. Number two, bad company. And number one, fish. Fish, fish, number one in the voting by a wide margin as well. Now, I don't know about you guys, but fish would be way down on my list. But I'm guessing their top ranking here in votes has more to do with Fish's fan base being super active online. I think that's what's going on. I don't think people, by and large, think the fish is more deserving, the most deserving of all 14 of these nominees to be in the
Starting point is 00:04:40 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Now, notably, Black Crow's, Mariah Carey, Joy Division, slash New Order, White Stripes, Outcast, Oasis, and Mana, I don't know who Mana is, but anyways, Mana are currently not receiving enough votes to qualify. How is it that there's a an artist on the rock and roll hall of fame inductee list that I've never heard of. Okay? That makes no sense. And I know you're going to say they're from South America or Mexico or Spain or some other country that I'm not paying attention to. You're right. I'm not paying attention to them. But that's not my problem. That's their problem. They're supposed to be so undeniably great and Hall of Fame worthy that they are pulling my attention toward them. That's another story. I don't
Starting point is 00:05:27 want to get into that. Just know that mana, along with Oasis, outcast white stripes, Joy Division slash New Order, Mariah Carey, Black Crows. Right now, as of the voting, are not getting into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. And that a list topped by Fish, well, you know. Okay. So, uh, this list doesn't upset me as much as the grunge list from a couple weeks ago that we were talking about. But it's, you know, I mean, guys, again, the seven in the lead, Fish, bad company, our guy, Billy Idol, Cindy Lopper, Soundgarden,
Starting point is 00:06:00 Joe Cocker. And I got a problem with Oasis and Black Crows being below Chubby Checker, Joe Cocker, bad company, Cindy Lopper and Fish. Even Soundgarden.
Starting point is 00:06:13 I think I'd put Oasis and Black Crows above Soundgarden. I would. I think so. Yeah, I'm not sure what the criteria is here, but rock and roll animalism. It should be an input.
Starting point is 00:06:26 But it should be a thought at least. It should be a trait, no matter how heavy or how lightly we wait it. It should be a trait that we consider when we consider the worthiness of an artist for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I know, I know it's, you know, this is our purview, our side of the street. Our point of view is rock and roll animalism. I get that. I get that most people aren't thinking about that. But still, how do you just ignore it? You know? How do you ignore it? Fish. Again, fish. So I want to know from you guys who should be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame this year. We can only choose seven artists. Okay, I already listed five that I think have been historically snubbed.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Bad Brains, Motorhead, Graham Parsons, New York Dolls, and the Smiths. That leaves only two remaining slots from our current list of 14 nominees. Again, Oasis Bag Company, Black Crow's Outcast, White Stripes, Joe Cocker, Joy Division, slash New Order, Chubby Checker, Cindy Lopper, Mana, Fish, Down Garden and Mariah Carey. From that list, if I can only choose two to go along with my list of five snubs, if I can only choose two from that list of 14, who am I choosing? Well, definitely Oasis, definitely.
Starting point is 00:07:47 And I guess I'm bringing it all back to Bangkok, holler, holler, city of squalor. I got to go with Billy Idol. I do. Oasis and Billy Idol, along with Bad Brains, Motorhead, Graham Parsons, New York Dolls, and the Smiths would be my list of seven rock and roll, Hall of Fame inductees for the class of 2025. If your guy right here, me, yours truly, was responsible for the hall. But I'm not. Maybe some of you are. I don't know. I think that's a great fucking list. Bad Brains, Motorhead, Grand Parsons, New York Dolls, Smith's, Oasis, and Billy Idol.
Starting point is 00:08:30 But I want to know, who are you inducting into the Hall of Fame? Okay? You can only choose seven. All right. Seven. And I think some of the list of the current 14 nominees are worthy. I think Billy Idol is worthy. This week's subject.
Starting point is 00:08:46 I really do. I truly do. And not just for his rock and roll animalism. Dude wrote Stone Cold hits. Okay. Huge. Massive. culture-defining, genre-defining, era-defining hits.
Starting point is 00:09:01 He was such the avatar for punk rock that he made it something else where he tricked our brains into ignoring the fact that he was punk rock, if that makes sense. He was that big. His songs were that impactful. And I know he's Billy Idol. And for those of us who were watching MTV at the time, he was a top 40 artist, and he was kind of a cheeseball.
Starting point is 00:09:24 And I get all that. really bought a Billy Idol record in my life, but he just defined that generation. And Generation X, the band he was in before that, was just, I mean, come on, ready, steady go. Just great, great, great punk band. And I truly believe that if he weren't, if he didn't end up being as big as he was, the Generation X would have been looked upon more fondly and as an equal of the clash, as an of any of those great UK bands from that generation of mid to late 70s punk rock. Anyhow, I want your list of seven nominees for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. 617-90666-6-6-36-38.
Starting point is 00:10:04 You can call me, leave me a voicemail. You can send me a text. And perhaps we can talk about it next week. Okay, coming up next in your feed is our episode on Charles Manson, the musician. This is our rewind episode, our archive episode. Charles Manson, the musician. Yes, he's the same dude as the cult leader, Charles. Charles Manson. A lot of people don't know this, but Charlie was a real, sort of real, I guess,
Starting point is 00:10:25 musician before he orchestrated the murders at Seattle Drive and the La Bianca residence. Charlie's music was in part what contributed to his murderous rage, or at least that's what we're told to believe in Helter Skelter. And Charlie's music lived on long after he was sent to prison, and it inspired a whole group of punk rock and hardcore kids and alternative musicians who came up in the 80s and in the 90s, Trent Rezner, Henry Rollins, and a bunch of others. We get into all this and the archive episode on Charles Manson coming Friday.
Starting point is 00:10:56 But the main thing we do in this episode is we set the stage to totally disrupt the helter-skelter theory that we've all been led to believe over the last 50 years or so, okay? If you watched the recent chaos documentary on Netflix or you read the chaos book by Tom O'Neill about the Manson murders,
Starting point is 00:11:14 you'll know what I'm talking about. So our Manson episode this Friday is going to feed directly into our Mama Cass Elliott episodes, parts one and two, coming up on Monday and Tuesday. And not only do these Mama Cass Elliott episodes coming next week challenge and disrupt the accepted narrative on Helter Skelter, they lay out what I think really happened. And the truth is way stranger and much more violent than the story about Charles Manson that we've all accepted. The truth involves international drug trafficking, gang rape, like the worst possible thing that could happen to a dude short of watching his child die, and a plot so thick you're going to need to shovel to dig yourself out of afterward, okay? Which brings us to next week's question of the week.
Starting point is 00:12:00 When you're listening to the two-part mama-cast episodes, it's a simple question. Do you believe that the accepted narrative on Helter Skelter is real? And again, you know, I'll point out that I rep this narrative that I no longer believe in, my Beach Boys episodes because I had not yet read chaos when I made the Beach Boys episodes. This is sort of me writing the ship attempt with the Mama Cass episodes. When you're listening to them, my question is, did Manson kill for the reasons that they said he did? Or was there another reason as I lay out? That's going to be next week's question of the week. Do you believe the helter-skelter narrative? To further stoke your helter-skelter flame, our Hollywoodland episodes
Starting point is 00:12:41 next week on Monday tied directly with our disgrace land episodes. Like I said at the beginning of next week in the disgrace land feed, you're getting our Mama Cass Elliott episodes about the Manson murders. But did you know that Mama Cass Elliott was best friends with Sharon Tate? Sharon Tate, who was murdered by the Manson family. Did you know that her best friend was Mama Cass Elliott from the Mama's and the Poppison? And that there is evidence that Charles Manson, through Mama Cass, actually met Sharon Tate before killing her. It's super creepy. not only do we get into that in the cast episodes, but we also get into it in the Sharon Tate episodes
Starting point is 00:13:17 that we are releasing next week in Hollywoodland, okay? The Tate Hollywoodland episodes speak directly to the Mama Cass Disgraceland episodes. We wrote them in a Roshaman way. Each story is set in the same place, but told from different points of view. The disgrace land episodes are set in Helter Skelter and told from the point of view of Mama Cass.
Starting point is 00:13:37 And the Hollywood land episodes are set in the same exact place, but told from the point of view of her friend Sharon Tate. Okay. So holy 1969 Batman, here is the upcoming schedule. Tomorrow in your Disgraceland feed, a rewind episode on Charles Manson, the music man. Monday and Tuesday, the story continues in Disgraceland with parts one and two of the Mama Cass Elliott's story and her relationship to the Manson murders. And also on Monday over in the Hollywoodland feed, our two parts story on Sharon Tate. I'd listen to Manson, Cass 1, Cast 2, Sharon Tate 1 and Sharon Tate 2 in that order. and then call me and let me know if you still believe the Helter Skelter narrative,
Starting point is 00:14:16 as told by Vincent Bouliosi in the biggest selling true crime book of all time, Helter Skelter. All right, I'm going to take a break. I'll be hanging on the telephone on the other side with your voicemails, text, and DMs. All right, guys, I'm back. Apple Podcast listeners real quick. If you're listening on Apple Podcasts, make sure you have auto downloads turned on for disgraceland and Hollywoodland.
Starting point is 00:14:55 That way you do not miss any episodes. 617-906-6638. where I'm at. I'm in the phone booth. It's the one across the hall. I'm hanging on the telephone. You want to send me a voicemail or a text. 617-90666638 to hang on the telephone with yours. Truly, let's check out this voicemail from... Hey, damn it, you got me again, much like I did listen to John Denver. I sat there slack-jawed thinking, my God, all my crazy conspiracy series on JFK. We're totally off base because I never heard Dylan involved in any of it.
Starting point is 00:15:35 this stuff and what can I say other than you got me again. Great episodes. Thanks. Keep up the good work as always. Rocka Rolla. Ben, all right, man. I'm happy you get into that episode. I'm happy you get a sense of humor about the whole thing. Appreciate you. I'm especially happy to know that you fell for John Denver and then you fell for Bob Dylan as well. All right, let's check out the 4-1-2. Jake, it's a big gabor from the 4-1-2. PA. I just want to tell you, you fucking got me, man, so good with this killing episode. My mind was freaking blown and I thought I was going to pass out with rage or whatever when you revealed that it was an April Fool's joke. 4-1-2 out in Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Rage, man, I'm not trying to drive anyone to rage. He's trying to entertain some folks. Sounds like you took it well. I appreciate that. Thanks for reaching reaching out. Are you a pirates fan? Let me know. I've got a late breaking opinion about the pirates. I think the Pittsburgh Pirates might have the best uniform in baseball. I think they have the best hat. The one with the piping, you know, circular, goes around the whole thing. What do they call that? What's that hat called? Hit me back, 412. All right, this one comes from the 415, 415, right, saying, hey, totally got me. Bob was very influential in my life. He's talking about Bob Dylan. Saw him in 1965 at a Berkeley Community Center. Wow. Goes on to say, I love that you actually worked with Carl.
Starting point is 00:17:10 He's talking about Carl Bernstein. You got me with the John Denver one too, but that did seem way out of line. This was more feasible. Curious about Tom Payne Award. And if Dylan really was so flipping about the war, he certainly was affected by his death by the murder most foul song recently. Well, yes, the Tompane depiction in the episode, the Tompane Awards depiction. That is all, everything I put in Dylan's mouth in that episode is verbatim. I quoted him. him directly. And all true. And it was a big, big, big controversy at the time. No one really talks about it anymore. It's not part of his myth. It's not part of his lore. And that goes to show just how history records some things and how history does not record others. The bit about him being flipping
Starting point is 00:17:52 about the war also completely true. That's from Sing Out magazine. That quote is a direct quote from Dylan. I don't believe Dylan was for the war. However, I think he was fucking with that journalist. I think what Dylan was for was not being pigeonholed into any sort of image of the 60s generation of the anti-war movement, anything like that. So 415, appreciate you. Thanks for the text. 907 writes, and Jake, I must tip my hat to you, the maestro of the April Fool's gag, no later than five hours after I had bragged to my students, I'm a high school chemistry teacher, that no one had fooled me on April 1st. I then finished listening to Bob Dylan, I bought every bit of your episode right up until you spelled it out well played sir well played
Starting point is 00:18:40 keep on doing what you do Lisa from the 907 Lisa thank you so much do a couple more here 201 writes and hey seriously addicted just pissed that I'll be caught up in the better part of a year of commuting thank you you got a 201 617 90666 63638 you guys want to send me a voicemail send me a text I was talking about the Pittsburgh pirates earlier baseball is on my mind all right I've been watching a ton of baseball and I got no one to really talk about it with you know, I talk to my stepdad about it talk to my kids about it because they're fucking obsessed
Starting point is 00:19:12 which is great and I've got the MLB app on the screens here most 24-7 most days basically because of them they have it on actually but there's this new if you guys, you know, I know there's a lot of Red Sox fans who listen to me and for Yankees fans out there just bear with me for about 10 seconds here there's a new Netflix series called
Starting point is 00:19:30 The Clubhouse A Year with the Red Sox and I got to say I am loving it. I'm learning a ton about this new generation of Red Sox players. And I'm even liking Tristan Cassis a lot more than I thought I liked them. Just fantastic. All right. Check it out. Red Sox fans, you'll dig it.
Starting point is 00:19:47 That's my 30 second-ish sports bit. I can't help it. I talk music and movies all week with you guys, but I consume a ton of sports. And it's hard not to talk about them, especially when it's something like this that's got it's hooks in me and I'm thinking about it all day long. Anyways, I'm thinking about movies too, and I'll be back in a flash with your emails, reviews, and the Hollywood Land Minute.
Starting point is 00:20:22 All right, we are back, and you know what time it is. It's time for the Hollywood Land Minute. Brought to you by the Hollywood Land Podcast. Don't know what the Hollywood Land podcast is? Well, the Hollywood Land Podcast is hosted by yours truly, where every week I tell you a story from the annex of Hollywood and true crime. And right now, there are over 40 episodes waiting for you to binge. Episodes on James Dean, Charlie Sheen, Danny Trail, Merrill Monroe,
Starting point is 00:20:40 Sean Penn, Steve McQueen, Drew Barrymore, Jane Fonda, and most recently master filmmaker, David Lynch. Let's check out this clip. Angela Bada Lamenti sat at an old Fender Road's piano. David Lynch sat next to him. A cassette recorder sat quietly on top of the keyboard. It was 1988, and Lynch was assembling the project that would become television's Twin Peaks.
Starting point is 00:21:07 It was a huge risk for the director. The art house autour behind such underground classics as Blue Velvet and Eraserhead. This was long before the Sopranos and Lerner, long before what's called prestige television. Back then, talent like David Lynch did not work in television. Television was considered by some to be trash, but David Lynch was a visionary, and he was currently trying to envision television as art. His starting point was the story his co-creator Mark Frost had told him about. Local history from the town in upstate New York
Starting point is 00:21:46 where Frost grew up. It happened 80 years earlier. A beautiful blonde girl was found murdered, floating in a pond in the woods. Lynch was using that story as inspiration as Angela Badalamenti worked on an evocative composition by his side. Okay, David, Angela said, what do you see now? David Lynch closed his eyes. He was there in the woods, in the dark. A soft wind blew through the pines. On the keyboard, Angelo slowly alternated between an A-flat and C minor. The bass was slow, like the lapping of the pond water against the shore. The breath-like movement of a body floating on the surface. That's good, David Lynch said now.
Starting point is 00:22:33 From behind a tree is a very lonely girl. And the music rose. It came out of the dark and drifted to the shore. And then it built to something bright but sad, a ghost glowing in the dark woods. It was so beautiful, the vision, the music, that it broke David Lynch's heart. David Lynch jumped up and hugged his composer. That's it, he said. That's Twin Peaks.
Starting point is 00:23:02 All right, guys, make sure you are subscribed to the Hollywoodland podcast on Apple Podcast, Spotify, CastBox, IHeart, Odyssey. Wherever you get your podcast, get into the podcast. that Hollywoodland feed and hit follow, hit subscribe, whatever they term it as, make sure you're getting every episode as we release them every single Monday next week, as I said earlier. We have a two-part episode coming your way on Sharon Tate. And again, you're not going to want to miss these episodes because they speak directly to the MamaCast episodes that are being released in the disgrace land feed. And I don't mean like we're just talking about the same
Starting point is 00:23:35 thing. I mean, we produced these in tandem. They're like a puzzle piece that when you put them together, all the pieces fit, okay? You're familiar with the Roshamon effect? The Roshamon effect describes how parties describe an event in a different and contradictory manner, which reflects their subjective interpretation and self-interested advocacy rather than an objective truth. That's not how I remember it. That's what happens in these episodes, except without that fancy AI definition that I just read you, okay? But basically, the Roshamon effect. In the Sharon Tate episodes coming on Monday in Hollywoodland. Make sure you're subscribed to Hollywoodland. And then call me 617-906-66-6638 and let me know what you thought of Hollywoodland.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Or you can send me an email and let me know what you think. Discredaslampod at gmail.com. Susan Pranito. Pranito. Is that how you say it? I think so. Pranito. Pranito. That's probably it. Right. Saying, hey, our generation. Who spoke for our generation? This, of course, is in response to last week's question of the week. We're talking about Dylan. We're talking about the voice of the generation. Susan here thinks that in the 1980s it was John Cougar Mellencamp. I know, she says, it was oversaturated, but this was the voice of folks in a small town in the late 1980s. And I can't argue with you, Susan. I'm from a small town, but not from one in the Midwest. And on the East Coast, and the Coog was ubiquitous. For me personally, I would not call John Cougar
Starting point is 00:25:01 Melanchamp, the voice of my generation, but I like to represent as much of this great country as I can in these responses. And I appreciate Susan's point of view here, the Midwest point of view. Thank you, Susan. Disgracelandmpot at gmail.com. You guys want to send me an email 617-906-66-663. You want to send me a voicemail? Leave me a text at Disgrace-Sampot on the socials. I'm just now realizing I forgot to do DMs. That's okay. We're going to keep motoring through here. Trying to keep these episodes tight. Matt Bowden is still pissed off at me for making him. mix an hour plus Bob Dylan episode. I think you guys appreciate the tightness as well. That's the real reason. We want a tight product. Speaking of product, you can review our product
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Starting point is 00:26:12 reading memoirs and biographies about dead rock stars, even ones whose music I didn't even listen to. I just like hearing stories about creatives and the good, the bad, and the ugly aspects of their lives. And this show captures my interest with some great storytelling about all the creatives of our generation and the generations before us. Also, I also love the way Jake says, Melotron. You got it, Ocean 1185.
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Starting point is 00:26:46 Nice one. James Elroy would be proud. Well, Rob, you just made my day. Thank you very much. Rob, get in touch. We'll get you some merch as well. Guys, leave a review, Spotify, Apple Podcasts. We appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:26:56 This episode, it's coming to an end. And as you know, the after-party continues for our All-Axcess members. And All-Axas is going to get you an extended portion of this here after-party. It's going to get you ad-free listening of all of our episodes. And it's going to get you one extra full episode per month. Okay? This one is very true-crimey, the one coming this month. It's on the Almond Brothers.
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Starting point is 00:28:02 Let's recap, shall we? We'll get this massive archive. I've got a vault of episodes. You guys know this. And each week I highlight a couple that we mention usually, typically in just, you know, talking here in the after party.
Starting point is 00:28:15 I highlight them here. Matt grabs the show. info and links and he throws those in the show notes so you guys can find these archive episodes very easily if you are interested we talked today we mentioned oasis we have a two-parter on oasis that i just love i love that band so much and if you love them or even if you don't if you're if you're sort of oasis curious check out these episodes that we did a couple years back i mentioned uh joy division in new order we have an episode on new order you check that out all right Cindy Lopper, we don't have an episode on Cindy Lopper, but she comes up heavily in the cramps episode.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Keith Moon and Keith Richards, there are, of course, multiple Rolling Stones episodes. There's a Who episode. And what else? Oh, Mariah Carey mentioned her. Got a Mariah Carey episode. Soundgarden. Got a Chris Cornell episode coming up. Coming up.
Starting point is 00:29:08 Anyways, Matt will have those links for you. That show info in the show notes if you want to dive into our archive. Okay? Let's recap, shall we? Number one, my other podcast, Hollywoodland, is alive and kicking over in the Hollywoodland feed. So make sure you're subscribed and following Hollywoodland on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or wherever get your podcast and get ready for a Hollywood Land, Sharon Tate episodes coming your way on Monday. Right now in your disgrace land feed, our episode on Billy Idol coming tomorrow. Number three, coming tomorrow, our rewind episode on Charles Manson.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Number four, merch winners, get in touch. You know who you are. Number five, remember no one cares about preserving the true spirit of rock and roll more than you do. And well, that's a disgrace. All right, in honor of this week's subject, Billy Idol, this is me reading you, the Billboard charts from the day Billy Idol bailed on his motorcycle and barely escaped death February 6th, 1990. Number one, how am I supposed to live without you, Michael Bolton? Last week, one, weeks on chart, 15. Number two, opposites attract Paula Abdul, duet with the wild pair.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Last week, eight, peak position, two, Weeks on Cher. 8. Number three. Downtown Train. Rod Stewart. Last week, three. Peak position.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Three. Weeks on chart. 11. Number four. Two, to make it right. Seduction. Last week. Five.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Peak position. Four. Weeks on chart. 13. Number five. Janie's got a gun. Arrow Smith. Last week, 11.
Starting point is 00:30:39 Peak position. Five. Weeks on chart. 11 number six talking and start mixing cut it

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