DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode: A Disgraceful Christmas List – Rockstars Set Up, Busted, and Sentenced During the Holidays

Episode Date: December 25, 2025

This week in the After Party, Jake takes a look at all the disgraceful deeds committed by rock stars during the holiday season. Plus, your emails, calls, and DMs! In the exclusive portion of the After... Party, Jake and Dr. Zeth Lundy further examine the Christmastime nightclub shooting that allegedly involved Diddy. You can become an All Access member today by visiting disgracelandpod.com. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 This is exactly right. Double Elvis. Hey, Discos, need a little more disgrace land in your life? Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the After Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode.
Starting point is 00:00:44 A little thing we like to call the after party. This is the show, after the show, the party, after the bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. Our mission to uncover the truth to confront the myth to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode, we're discussing the wild arrest setups and true crimes that happened during holiday seasons past from music history. In the exclusive portion, we dive into the way in which Diddy allegedly avoided serving hard time for one of those holiday true crimes. We share with you something pretty awesome that happened to us here in disgrace to this past week. And we get into your emails, comments, DMs, and as always, a whole lot of rosy. This is the podcast for the musically obsessed.
Starting point is 00:01:25 The outsiders, the independent thinkers who know that the best history is a history that gets buried. Disgraceland is where I tell the stories they didn't want told. The kind you'll end up telling someone else. All right, this goes, let's get into it. Merry Christmas. Happy Hanukkah. Hope everyone's having a great holiday season, however you celebrate. All right, listen, I'm late in putting my Christmas list together this year, but it's a different kind of list.
Starting point is 00:01:53 It's not a list of what I want for Christmas. It's not a list of my favorite Christmas song. It's not a list of my favorite unintentional Christmas songs, though more on that later. It's a list, a ranked list of true crimes from music history that happened during the holidays. Now, you'd be surprised how many of the stories that we cover here in disgrace land have happened around the holiday season. It's way more than I thought. Pretty shocking, actually, but I have a theory. You've heard the phrase, the devil finds work for idle hands to do.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Well, I prefer one that is slightly similar but means the same thing. Idle hands are the devil's workshop. One could also say that music history is the devil's workshop. And the workshop gets real busy around the holidays. With all those rock stars sitting around at home without the structure of the road, bored to death by domesticity, just itching to get themselves into trouble, the holidays are the perfect time for rock star true crime as the record shows. So here's a list, ranked, of course, of some of the more outrageous crimes committed in music history.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Not all outrageous, some just interesting, right around the holiday season, okay? So many, of course, have been covered, like I said, in detail here in disgrace land, but most without calling out the relative holiday spirit until now. Number 10 comes from an artist that we've yet to cover, but definitely will at some point. DMX. And December 15th, 2002, during a run of his career, where running into authorities for all kinds of stuff, everything was spanning weapons charges to animal cruelty. DMX was arrested a couple weeks before Christmas for burying his 5-4-11 size 7 in girls into the gas pedal and burning 104 miles an hour down the highway. I don't know that I've ever gone.
Starting point is 00:03:51 I've never pushed it that fast. I push it pretty fast sometimes, but I don't think I've ever been just under 105. I hope not anyways. Anyhow, speeding was the least of DMX's problems that Christmas. He was also arrested for driving an unregistered vehicle without a license. On top of everything else, DMX was up to. He was sentenced to 70 days in jail eventually for that incident. And there's a whole bunch of other stuff that DMX got in trouble for.
Starting point is 00:04:18 The DMX story, to me it's a very sad story. And I don't yet know how to tell it, but I know that we will at some point here in disgrace. And I got to find a different way of telling it than that doc that came out a couple years ago. That's what's been holding me out. Anyhow, number nine, Joan Baez. You can't accuse Bob Dylan's girlfriend of being idle during the holidays back in 1967. Because on December 19th, Joan Baez, I kid about the Bob Dylan girlfriend thing. I'm not a huge, Joe.
Starting point is 00:04:47 I don't like Joan Baez there, I said it. But I don't mean to just, you know, discredit her as being Bob Dylan girlfriend. Dylan's girlfriend. I understand how important she is in music history. And I actually think that Joan Baez, for whatever reason, doesn't get enough, I don't want to say credit, I guess credit. I feel like we don't understand fully how big Joan Baez was because Bob Dylan is caught up in her story and she ends up in his shadow and he's massive. But she was an enormous star before Dylan came along and was after Dylan split as well. But for whatever reason, you know, maybe it's, like I said, the Dylan Shadow thing, whatever the reason is, it's, we don't think of it that way
Starting point is 00:05:32 anymore. I don't know why. We just kind of forget about it. You know, we just kind of, oh, that's Joan Baez. Anyhow, Joan Baez, 1967. Also, Joan Baez, I just going to say this, absolutely stunning, beautiful. And even though I don't like Joan Baez's music, her voice, you can't, you can't can't argue with how, I guess, compelling an artist she was. And she captivated, not just the American public, but she captivated men, like John Lennon, for example, Johnny Cash, all kinds of guys who were just blown away by Joan Baez. Anyhow, 1967, like I said, she was not resting during the holiday season. She was arrested for leading an anti-war, anti-Vietnam war, sit-in, in Oakland, California at an Army induction center.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Joan was putting in work during that holiday off time. Unlike number eight, Chuck Berry, who was fucking around in the worst possible way, or one of the worst possible ways, a couple days before Christmas in 1959, when Chuck was arrested in St. Louis, Missouri for transporting a 14-year-old girl across state lines for immoral purposes,
Starting point is 00:06:45 a crime known as the Man Act. Chuck Barry was sentenced to five years. hard time in federal prison. Chuck appealed that sentence, and Santa smiled upon the rock and roll pioneer and reduced his sentence to just three years. Chuck ended up serving just 20 months. You know, I've done a lot of work on Chuck Berry. We did that Chuck Berry episode, but there's also an expanded version of that story in my book. And I don't think the Christmas of it all ever really came into the story. Apologies if you can hear the faint, the faint yelp and shout. of my kids, they're out in the front yard here playing baseball, and, you know what, it's Christmas
Starting point is 00:07:25 break. I can't, I can't, can't squash their spirit. All right, moving on from Chuck Barry at number eight, number seven in early December, 1973, as The Who were wrapping up their tour in time to return home for the holidays, they celebrated the performance of a particularly explosive show in Montreal by destroying in epic fashion their suite at the hotel Bonaventure. Now, before all was said and done, this is, look, this has been documented elsewhere, but it's still shocking to me. And I didn't really get into it in the Who, who episodes that we've, that we've produced because it's just, it's just such a part of rock and lore, but fuck it, let's do it. Before all was said and done, okay,
Starting point is 00:08:14 uh, after this after show party, this after party, after the Who's show in Montreal, they're back at the hotel upon a venture. And they decide they're so excited, they're so pumped, they're so blitz on whatever they're taking that they're going to destroy the hotel suite, which, you know, back in 1973, wasn't as, uh, wrote as it is now for rock stars. But anyhow, after all of a sudden done, sofas, had been rocketed out of the hotel suites windows. A television set ended up in the pool. Pete Townsend's blood somehow was splattered across the art on the hotel suite's walls.
Starting point is 00:08:49 And Pete, Keith Moon, and John Antwistle were all hauled into jail by the local police. And in the end, let go and just ordered to pay damages. And with all that activity, the Who still made it to their gig in Boston in time the next night before eventually breaking for the holidays. So a little bit of epic rock star debauchery there from the holidays. I'd heard that story before. I did not know it took place during the holiday season. Number six, just after celebrating the New Year's holiday in 2008, Lil Wayne, Lil Wayne you might remember back from season six, season seven of Disgrace Land,
Starting point is 00:09:25 was arrested in Arizona after his tour bus was raided. He was given probation for that charge, probation to be completed once his stay in prison was finished. I know it's all very confusing. You can hear about it all in our little Wayne episode. Number five, we just talked about this one. Trey Anastasio of the fish, as the kids call them, was arrested just before Christmas in 2006 while whipping down the road, blitzed on prescription beds and charged with heroin possession,
Starting point is 00:09:53 an event that no doubt made for a tense Christmas around the fish camp that year. Trey eventually pleaded guilty and avoided prison time and got clean and continues to perform with the fish and without the heroin. So there you go. That's number five. Number four, on New Year's Eve, this is my favorite one. Because it's so fucked up. On New Year's Eve, 1948, Billy Holiday, who I love, okay, one of my favorite singers.
Starting point is 00:10:16 And just, I don't care. One of the greatest vocalists of all time. Billy Holiday was caught up in a club melee, a brawl in charge with assault with a deadly weapon on three counts. This is on New Year's Eve, 1948. Now, on the day of her hearing, she heads up to her. San Francisco to perform for a sold-out crowd at a club, which the name is escaping me. While staying, however, in the San Francisco Hotel Mark Twain, I can't forget that name. Billy was then, so this is New Year's Day, Billy was then the target of a just despicably
Starting point is 00:10:54 shameful FBI raid, and I believe set up by her manager, which is a whole other story. Billy was charged with opium possession, and her career speeds to an end quickly after this, and her demise is just horrifically sad. But in a weird twist, that notorious publicity for the rest and the brawl, it fueled ticket sales for the rest of her tour. So she got a little New Year's holiday bonus for Billy Holiday there, who no doubt likely needed it, given all that was going on at the time in her life. Number three, in December 1999 at the club Kit Kat in New York, you know this one. Beyonce's husband, Jay-Z, back before he was Beyonce's husband, was busted for stabbing Lance
Starting point is 00:11:41 on Rivera. Remarkably, somehow, Jay-Z only got probation for stabbing a dude. Santa doesn't fuck around with no dirt on Jay-Z's shoulder is what I'm saying. Now, number two, not to be outdone by his rival, Jay-Z. A couple weeks later, Sean, Puff Daddy Combs, was busted two days. after Christmas following a shooting in a different New York City Club. Puffy, as he was known then, was charged with criminal possession of a weapon and stolen property, but eventually beat the charge. Now, a lot of theories about how Sean Combs avoided a guilty charge here, and he avoided going to prison.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Lots of, lots of smoke out there. Some of it is more than smoke, I think. Anyways, we're going to get into these theories. in the exclusive section of the after party for all access members coming up in a bit. But first, number one on our list. Number one, country singer Merle Haggard, whose voice rivals Billy Hollidays in my estimation. I actually think, and this is because I've been listening to a ton of Merle Haggard lately, I think Merle Haggard has surpassed George Jones, in my opinion, as far as country singers go, just subjectively, my fave.
Starting point is 00:12:57 I'm not saying that Merle Haggard is the greatest country saying, you know, whatever you might have, you might think it's George, you might think it's Willie, Johnny, whoever, but for me, it was George Jones for most of my life. But there's just something about Merle that has got me hooked lately, the richness, the depth of that voice. I envy it. I really, I really do. And I just can't get enough of it. Anyways, Merle was busted on Christmas Day for knocking over a restaurant.
Starting point is 00:13:27 the night before in an armed robbery. And this was an event that led Merle to do hard time at San Quentin and eventually to getting serious about his musical career after he saw Johnny Cash perform live at San Quentin. And ultimately, this all led to Merle Haggard writing one of the greatest Christmas songs of all time if we make it through December. A song, I'm proud to say, that my seven-year-old now loves. We've been listening to you. It's actually, there's a Merle Christmas album. We were listening to the whole album a lot lately. And that might have something to do with why Merle Haggard is number one on my list here.
Starting point is 00:14:06 The numbering doesn't matter. The ranking doesn't matter. These are all fascinating stories that you can tell this Christmas while you're hanging out with your fam. You know, it gets to the later part of the day. Football's, you know, not as interesting as it was earlier. You know, you're all kind of, you get to get a little turkey hangover. Maybe you get a little too much bourbon in you, whatever it is. and you need something alive and up the party,
Starting point is 00:14:27 you can go to any one of these stories. And there will be relevance, of course, because of the holidays. And, you know, you'll, you know, you might be a little entertaining yourself telling these stories of, you know, massively transgressive entertainers. This list could easily have been a top 20,
Starting point is 00:14:43 maybe even a top 50. I don't know. I didn't mention holiday season arrests for a ton of disgrace land artists. James Brown, Jim Morrison, Sam Cook, Gigi Allen. I'm sure with more research into the disgrace land archive.
Starting point is 00:14:57 I could have pulled out a ton more. The holidays in music history, the devil's workshop as demonstrated by disgrace land. When we get back, I'm going to play you something that's sure to blow your mind. And then we're also going to get into your calls, voicemails, and texts.
Starting point is 00:15:13 All right, we are back. And before we get into your voicemails, text, and more, I wanted to mention that one of my favorite disgraceland stories is available for you guys right now in the feed. and that is the Christmas story on the death of one of Elvis Presley's favorite singers, Memphis's own Johnny Ace. And if you're looking for something to do, this is, you know, get around the tree here on Christmas, fire up the old disgrace land feed, and get into the Christmas fives. This is a dark but fascinating story, and it's absolutely a holiday story.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Johnny Ace and the myth of Johnny Ace and his death on Christmas Day was most definitely an influence on an artist that I think most of us know and love Lou Reed from the Velvet Underground. Now, Lou, just like those who spread the false myth of Johnny Ace's death after the Johnny Ace Christmas tragedy, Lou Reed himself was about as unreliable, a narrator as is possible to find in rock and roll history. So because of that, we thought it was a good time of year to bring Lou back into the feed with our unreliable take on the Lou Reed origin story. These two Lou Reed episodes are, I'm just going to say it, they're fucking weird, man. I was reading a bunch of Raymond Chandler books at the time because Lou Reed was heavily influenced by Raymond Chandler. And I had just had my head buried in that massive book of Lou Reed lyrics. and I was obviously reading and watching a ton of Lou Reed interviews where Lou is basically just lying through all of them about himself.
Starting point is 00:17:18 So what you hear in these two episodes is a result of me taking all of that in and kind of channeling Lou as an unreliable narrator into the storytelling. And, you know, it's weird, but it's fun. And they're produced in an excellent way. I, you know, just I'm very proud of the job that the double Elvis team did with these stories. So those are going to be available in the archive coming up right after, right after this, right? Yeah. Next week, we, of course, keep the holiday vibes alive with our episode on Derek and the Dominoes, those dominoes being Dwayne Allman and Eric Clapton and one Jim Gordon.
Starting point is 00:17:59 And we tell this story of violent schizophrenia in conjunction. with the story of the Lawson family murders, which happened on Christmas Day back in 1929, and was immortalized in song in the Great Murder Ballad, the Lawson family murder by the Carolina buddies and later popularized by Doc Watson. If you're from the American South, if you're a true crime fan, if you're from North or South Carolina, if you love Clapton, the almonds, or are a drummer and want to hear about one of the greatest drummers of all time and his slip into madness, then you are going to want to listen to this episode
Starting point is 00:18:37 if you are any of those things, and even if you're not. All right, let's hear from you guys because, you know, it's been about a week and, you know, we haven't checked in. Charlie checked in from the 9-1-2. Yo, Jake, this is Charlie calling in from Georgia. All right, so here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:18:55 I think it goes out saying that you and your team and everyone that listens to the show knows what an awesome podcast that disgrace land is. But I want to take this opportunity to take two reasons why I specifically love the show personally. Okay, number one, it's not about race
Starting point is 00:19:11 or politics or religion or all the other horse manure that we use to tear each other apart day after day. No, it's a show that has a great host right that tells great stories about great artists that make the great music that we all know and love and at the end of the day, that's what unifies us.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Okay, and number two is I know I'm not alone when I feel. say this, but I think the best part about the show are the introductions, okay, and listening to you go and why? What I play you? A specific slice of such and such cheese, could I afford it? Just cracking you up every single time, man. I love it. I wish you guys the best of the luck and I hope success you could possibly handle. And again, thank you so much for a great show. All right, man, peace. Charlie, I appreciate the message. Thank you, man. Thanks for spreading a little holiday, a little Christmas cheer. I hope you and your family are doing all right.
Starting point is 00:20:01 right peace and love and much more cheese coming my man that's all i got to say specific slices of cheese all right matt let's go to the seven three one hey it's Elizabeth in the seven three one just following up on the video podcast of you and zet talking about the christmas song the band the politically incorrect disdain in your voice for maybe it's cold outside but right after that you kind of understood the whole earth a kid sultry performance. The thing with, baby it's cold outside, was the same thing. In the performances, sometimes, like on television, different things, the man would block the door, kind of keep her from going out. And I think that's what led to some of the backlash more so than just the
Starting point is 00:20:47 lyrics of the song. I'm not saying 100% agree with it, but I also could see the point in the Me Too movement. This song coming out at Christmas, kind of a bad timing situation. Not that it was a new song, but playing them again. And a lot of it was a performance, the man blocking the door not allowing her to leave. It did give a little cringe factor, not going to lie. And those vary depending on who performed it. So I think that might play into it just as well as Earth a kid being sexy, girl can't help it.
Starting point is 00:21:14 You know what I'm saying? So anyway, just following up on that, definitely feel like there's a little, a little of that in there that might be why. Keith, enjoy your holidays. Ah, 731. Great, great call. I didn't realize this. I did not understand.
Starting point is 00:21:31 that, and I totally see it. You know, there were TV performances of this song, maybe it's cold outside back in the day. And I can, as you're describing it, I can see them hamming it up and kind of acting it out and dramatizing. And with that visual, I can see the thing being a little more,
Starting point is 00:21:49 I can see the problem with it a little bit more clearly. However, any way you cut it, maybe it's cold outside, politically correct, politically incorrect, however you view it. It's a fantastic song. I appreciate this little bit of information here, though, 731. Thank you. All right, over on the text machine, 416. I love this text.
Starting point is 00:22:09 416 writes in, hey, how about Christmas albums that don't exist but should? Like the Smiths, maybe. Songs such as Christmas is over or The Last Star I Shall See. How about Santa will not arrive? Happy Christmas, it may be my last. Away in a manger, and it is cold. This guy's got a whole track listing for a fake, Smith's Christmas album. This is fantastic. It goes on, the present I cannot give. The present I cannot give.
Starting point is 00:22:40 That's a Morrissey song, man. Christmas, Christmas for Caligula, this charming elf. And last but not least, shoplifters of the world unite on Boxing Day. Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah and Rockarola, 416. You text in anytime you want. That was amazing. Appreciate you. We had this whole whole thing going last week, guys, we made a mix and an unintentional Christmas mix that's available for you to hear on Spotify, if you're following a disgrace land pod, or if you're in on the chat, if you're in with us, this goes in Patreon. I posted the link up there. You can find the link to the mix, the playlist very, very easily. Get another one here. Another suggestion for untraditional Christmas songs. This one, the 508 says, an interesting Christmas song or a version of a Christmas song,
Starting point is 00:23:31 I believe it was the band Weezer, Oh Holy Night. And it was in a sitcom show called Raising Hope. That's when I first heard it. And I was like, oh, shit. Love that 508. Thank you. 248 writes in on the same topic, The Last Days of December,
Starting point is 00:23:47 it's an obscure neo-Sythpop song from an obscure band on an even more obscure Christmas compilation. It's one of the prettiest songs I've ever heard. And one of the best things about December is that I get to go play it again and again. Here's to many more December. number's 248. Love that. Ish wants an episode on Paris Hilton, sorry, on Lionel Richie, and we work our way in
Starting point is 00:24:10 through the gateway of Nicole Richie and Paris Hilton. Ish. I like this idea. I think there's a lot. I think Lionel Richie has an autobiography as of recently, as of recently, as of lately, recently published. Yai, yeah, yeah. I need more coffee.
Starting point is 00:24:28 that I'm just interested in reading as a fan and learning more. I bet he's got a great perspective. The guy's been around forever. So, Ish, you know, you might get your wish, ish. Okay, Christmas wish for Ish. Unintentional holiday songs. Now, this is different from non-traditional Christmas or holiday songs. Unintentional.
Starting point is 00:24:50 I forget who it was on Patreon brought up in the ghetto as being an unintentional Christmas song by Elvis Presley. And I can hear it. Um, so we had a little convo going on Patreon about that and some folks chimed in. Joni Mitchell's River has Christmas imagery, but I don't think it classifies as a Christmas song, but I think it should. Or no, she says, I think it could go either way. That's Krista K.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Um, I don't know that song, Krista, but I'm going to check it out. Michael Murphy writes in Apollo 100, Joy, a disco-fied version of Jayhu, Joy of Man's Desiring. Is that drive like Jayhu? Um, Michael has a bunch here. Human sexual response from Boston. Land of the Glass Pine Cones. Wow, never heard that. Benfolds five brick as a Christmas song. Michael could have started and stopped his list with this next recommendation here for an unintentional Christmas song and it just perfectly embodies this concept. It is a long December by counting crows.
Starting point is 00:25:51 I mean, come on. Love this tune. Haven't talked about it at all this holiday season. Could have It's just smashing. Absolutely fabulous. Great TV show, by the way. Absolutely fabulous. Okay. Maybe next year we'll do more on this topic. I really like it because it's hard, you know? My brain just doesn't go to like 10 examples of this. You got to think about it for a minute. Unintentional Christmas songs, songs that weren't intended to be Christmas, but somehow I've ended up representing the holiday season for us. Anyways, I love this idea and perhaps we'll do more of it next year. over on Instagram let's see here
Starting point is 00:26:31 Sand Dullivan commented which membership tier is this film should be played loud available to this will definitely persuade me to sign up
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Starting point is 00:27:34 You can get a link to sign up. Hope to see it in the chat over in Patreon, dude, with all the other discos. Now, I'm going to take a quick break. And when I come back, I got to lay this thing on you guys, this thing that happened this past week that was pretty awesome. You might have heard of it. You might not have. Either way, we're going to get into it back in the flash.
Starting point is 00:28:08 All right, guys. So the other night, I'm up in my 11-year-old's bedroom. It's just after dinner. And I'm using his stereo, his double cassette recorder, to try and dub these cassettes of this holiday mix that I had made for a bunch of my friends. And it's a Christmas mix, all stuff from mine and my wife's Christmas vinyl collection. And anyhow, how I'm putting the mix together.
Starting point is 00:28:40 I'm fighting with this crappy little stereo because my double cassette recorder had broken previously, wasn't working. So now I'm using his, and he has a really shitty stereo. It's not his fault. I bought it for him. And I'm trying to get the thing to work. I'm super frustrated.
Starting point is 00:28:57 You know, trying to do this thing. It's supposed to be easy. It's supposed to be fun like it was when I was a kid. It's not fun. It's a pain in the ass. It's a pain in the ass to make mixtapes. It really is. I'm so spoiled.
Starting point is 00:29:07 We're all so spoiled by the, by the ease with which we can put together digital playlists. I'm in here. You know, here's the thing about making a cassette tape, you know, dubbing cassettes. How the hell did we write the track listings on those tapes? How did we fit the song and the artist in 50% of the size of the cassette tape insert? It's impossible, absolutely impossible.
Starting point is 00:29:35 So I'm super frustrated trying to do this. my wife yells up she's like hey my aunt anne just just texted me and she told me that disgrace land was just on jeopardy and i'm going that's not true she's she's she's wrong at least it wasn't you know the podcast disgrace land maybe they just said the word or something that's what i was thinking and uh i go back to being frustrated and about five minutes later i get a text from Avi Spivik, who, Avi does all the great illustrations for disgrace and has since we launched the show. And Avi lives somewhere in New York City. And I get this text from Avi. He's like, pretty cool, man. Disgrace land on Jeopardy. I'm like, what? Now I'm like, you're kidding. What?
Starting point is 00:30:29 Because now I'm thinking, I'm thinking two things. I'm thinking it's real. And wow, this is really freaking cool. Like, I love, I love Jeopardy. I don't watch it every night, but I've watched it a lot throughout my life. And it's, you know, obviously a huge part of the fabric of our culture. So, of course, I'm like, this is amazing. But then I'm also just thinking, like, wait a minute, don't, shouldn't they have given, like, me a heads up? If this was real, I'd know it was going to happen. And, of course, I had no heads up. So then I text Matt and Zeth, who you guys know, obviously. And I know, I just something, without even asking, I'm assuming that Matt Bowden is like the biggest Jeopardy fan on the planet. And, uh, thinking if anybody watches this every night, it's him.
Starting point is 00:31:13 And yeah, he's a super fan, but these guys aren't watching TV. They're doing whatever. Neither of them know what's up. And I think they're both kind of like, as I'm texting them, my thought, thinking is like, dude, you're out of your freaking mind. Then my sister, my little sister, who's like hours from going into labor, text me, and she's like, we're watching it. And they saw it. They actually, like, had the clip and they sent it. And turns out it aired up in the Northeast, an hour before it aired, where I'm at. So I was able to actually watch it, tape it, and with my two sons, who didn't know what the hell was going on, but thought it was pretty cool, as did my wife. And I don't, I don't know why, you know, I don't know why I think this is such a special thing. I've been,
Starting point is 00:31:59 The show has been mentioned on, you know, other stuff that's as big, arguably, I guess, or I don't know, part of the culture, but it's something about Jeopardy. It's been around forever since I was a little kid. And it's just, like I said, such a fabric of our culture that it really made me happy that our show, Disgraceland, was mentioned. And we're going to play the clip for you guys right now so you can hear this. It was quick, of course. Matt, go ahead and play this for the peeps. Podcasts for 400. As it focuses on music and misdeeds,
Starting point is 00:32:32 Disgraceland discussed the May through July 2025 trial of this rap mogul. Chris, who is Ditting? Yes, Sean Combs. All right, guys, that's Disgraceland. As part of the question in Jeopardy, and the answer was, of course, Sean Combs, who we will be talking about in the exclusive section of this after party. I'm going to be doing that with Zeth.
Starting point is 00:32:56 as I typically do, typically do the exclusive sections of the afterparty with Seth. And like I mentioned before, guys, if you sign it to become a Patreon member, you're going to get access to that exclusive content plus other bonus content, including the mini episodes that are released pretty much every week. And also our new video podcast, this film should be played loud. You also get ad-free listening of all Disgraceland and Hollywoodland episodes. So go to disgracellandpod.com to sign up to become a Patreon member. Got a lot going on in Hollywoodland.
Starting point is 00:33:25 I mentioned Zeth and the show that he helms, Hollywood Land. We did these special features for the holiday season. We did two of them on Christmas films. I did one. Matt did one. And we got one coming up on New Year's films, which I think you're going to be into. These are fun discussions. I get to indulge my fandom of film history.
Starting point is 00:33:47 And Zeth, of course, is the real expert here. Matt, give the people a little taste of, I don't know, I just pick one of the special. features here from the holidays. And guys, if you aren't subscribed to Hollywoodland, get over to that feed and subscribe now. Okay, so a couple of movies here that I think are connected by the fact that they both have very pivotal scenes that play out during New Year's Eve parties are Boogie Nights and the Godfather part two. Boogie Nights has this New Year's Eve party that takes us from the decade of the 70s into the 80s from film to video. It's the beginning of the end. There's a good
Starting point is 00:34:25 fellow's comp for this, you know, the moment where there's no turning back with a story, you've been seduced by the lifestyle, and then all of a sudden, you know, William H. Macy puts a gun to his head and blows his brains out, and the, now you're paying for that lifestyle, right? And then the Godfather, too, of course, has this iconic New Year's Eve party scene in Cuba, which is the moment where Michael tells Fredo, he knows that he was the one that betrayed him. What do you want to talk about first? Boogie Nights? Well, I want to talk about both of them. I want to make this point that one of them seems like a New Year's movie and the other one does not. And I feel like it goes to what I was saying earlier where Boogie Nights, it does,
Starting point is 00:35:00 I don't know, it just feels like they make, they reinforce the New Year's piece of it more than in Godfather. Godfather, it's just part of this massive, uh, you used the word set piece earlier. And certainly the party for Batista. That's, that's all, you know, it's, yeah, it's new years and it feels, it's just, everything kind of seems the drama is, is paying off so fully in that scene. Everything between Michael. and Fredo and Michael's plan is coming to fruition or starting to the mechanics anyways of it. And the drama almost seems like it's too big for the New Year's scenery piece of it. So maybe that's why I never really think of that movie as a New Year's movie, great movie, obviously.
Starting point is 00:35:44 Whereas with Boogie Nights, they're set in this New Year's Eve party. And the drama that unfolds there is more of a surprise. perhaps more of a shocking turn that you're not expecting. You can kind of, and Godfather, too, you can kind of see what Michael's working up to. He kind of knows this is going to happen. He doesn't set Fredo up, but he's kind of fishing to get the information from Fredo because he already suspects him somewhat. As the audience, you kind of being brought along, even if you don't realize it,
Starting point is 00:36:14 the little bill thing in Boogie Night's the first time I watched it was a total shock. Absolutely. Because up until that point, like, you've been laughing. And you've been laughing at Little Bill every time you, turns around, his wife's like going to town with some guy and there's a whole group of people watching and it's, and he's sort of like the butt of the joke. All right, guys, that's the Hollywood Land podcast available for you right now in the Hollywoodland feed on whichever podcast app you use. Go subscribe now if you're not already. We'll be back right after this. All right, guys, we are back
Starting point is 00:37:01 and we always talk about the archive here at the top of the e-block. And in this episode, gosh, we mentioned probably, I think, 10 artists that are from our archive. Matt will hand cherry pick a selection of those artists. He'll provide the episode information in the show notes of this after party if you want to go check any of those stories out. And I definitely encourage you to dig into the 255 plus episode archive of disgrace land if you're a new listener and get some of that archive action in your life. All right. I, get to get out of here. I got to go to the gym. Then I got to wrap a ton of presents. I think I'm going to watch someone emailed Zeth. I saw this email in the inbox, mentioned beautiful girls as a
Starting point is 00:37:48 Christmas movie. And I never think of, think of that Timothy Hutton, Natalie Portman film as a Christmas movie. But it absolutely is. And I think I'm going to put that on tonight while I'm wrapping gifts later on. And if you haven't seen beautiful girls, there you go. There's a little recommendation for you. All right. Number one. This week, our episode on Johnny Ace and Elvis Presley, that is available for you right now. Get the Christmas tragedy vibes there. Number two, rewind episodes on Lou Reed coming this week right after this after party. Number three, Derek and the Domino's happened in next week with the loss and family Christmas murder.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Number four, Zeth is going to give you those Hollywood and crime vibes in Hollywoodlands. So make sure you're subscribed. Number five, this film should be played loud. Our new episode on Goodfellas. You've got to be a Patreon member to cop that. So go to disgracelandpod.com to sign up. Number six, six one seven nine oh six six three eight. Your voice keeps us digging into the dark corners of music history.
Starting point is 00:38:40 So keep calling, texting with your answers to this week's question of the week or with whatever else you want to talk about. Number seven, don't forget discos. This isn't just content. It's a community, a community of the obsessed. And no one cares about music, books, records in the crime and grime that ties them all together like you do. And well, that's a disgrace. All right. Joan Baez was arrested on December 19th, 1967.
Starting point is 00:39:02 In years what America was listening to. on that day according to the billboard charts. Number one, daydream believer, the monkeys. Last week, one. Weeks on chart, six, peak position, one. Number two, I heard it through the grapevine, Gladys Night in the Pips, last week, two. Weeks on chart, 10, peak position, two.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Number three, hello goodbye, the Beatles. Last week in the circles. Weeks on chart. Five. Weeks on chart. Five. Peeposition. Number four.
Starting point is 00:39:39 I second that emotion. Smokey Robinson in the Miracles. Last week. Four. Weeks on chart. Eight. Beeposition four. Number five.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Woman. Woman. Gary Puckett. Talking and start mixing. Kunt.

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