DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode: A Rock ‘N’ Roll World Cup, Criminal Minded English Musicians and Here’s Wonderwall

Episode Date: July 16, 2026

England? Argentina? Spain? You know who the winner of this year’s World Cup really is? Oasis. Plus, it’s Happy Mondays week in Disgraceland, has us asking, who do you think is the most transgressive, debaucherous band ever? We get into it with your voicemails, texts, DMs and more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is exactly right. Elvis. Welcome to the disgrace land bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the after party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of disgrace land to the other. The backyard to dig into the dirt. Our mission to uncover the truth and to confront the myth to reclaim the story on this bonus episode, we discuss how Oasis is this year's actual World Cup winner.

We take a look at Happy Mondays and their rock and roll debauchery. preview next week's new episode where you'll find out how Dolly Parton defied the expectations of stardom in more ways than you thought. Plus, we get into your emails, comments, DMs, and as always, a whole lot of Rosie. This is the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know that the best history is the history that gets buried. Disgraceland is where I tell the stories they didn't want told, the kind of you'll end up telling to someone else. All right, just goes, let's get into it. All right, we are here. we are all together. I'm playing her today. I got something I came down with this morning and man,

it's hitting me. It's hitting me hard. But you know what? I can't be stopped. I cannot be contained because I have a game today. All right. We all have a game today. Three o'clock Eastern, England, Argentina. I too have somehow, like most people that I've spoken to over the last few weeks, managed to become a soccer fan this summer. All right? The World Cup has been riveting. and it's been pretty rock and roll. Okay, rock and roll is gloriously at the center of the World Cup this year, thanks to England's team and their fans. The images of star player Harry Kane locking arms with his teammates

after the victory against Mexico and running to the stands while being deafened by England supporters serenating their team with Oasis's Wonderwall was riveting television. So by the time you hear this episode, it's going to be Thursday at least, and England will have either won or lost against Argentina for the semifinals. And Wonderwall will either be further cemented into the zeitgeist or put on mute for the time being. Hopefully we're still hearing Noel and Liam Liam's chorus, though, ringing in our ears. And hopefully we're getting ready for Kane's men to take on Spain in the finals this weekend.

Go England is what I'm saying. And yes, it's because of rock and roll. It's because of Wonderwall. Before the World Cup, I could give a shit about English soccer players. And then I got pulled into the action like everybody else. At first, I found myself glued to a big outdoor screen in a park in Budapest with my family while on vacation, rooting for the U.S. against Australia. As the Cup progressed, I was watching games without the United States, just got pulled into it.

It was curious what's all this about, you know? and I found myself rooting for the underdogs so that the U.S. would theoretically have an easier path to winning the tournament. They were eliminated, though, in the last round. But it didn't matter because by that time, the games themselves had pulled me in. Okay, the game, this game, this amazing game, subtle violence, it's lulling, vibey flow and rhythm, and the game's quick flashes of aggression when the players break through with the goals. the game itself pulled me in. There's a weird sensation to watching this game. It's different from any other sport I've watched. It's like some flow state high. You get glued into the action,

and then a goal happens, and you're euphoric for an instant, and then immediately you're thrust right back into the tide that doesn't really stop for about two straight hours, except for those pesky hydration breaks, of course, which are quite controversial as I'm coming to learn. But back to rock and roll. All right? I intended to root for Mexico over England in the round of 16. I really did because fuck England. I'm American. And despite our own insane geopolitical history of oppression and corruption, rooting for imperialists, it just ain't my bag, baby, so Mexico. But I couldn't root for Mexico. I tried. It was the way they played. They annoyed me. Just watching them. They're just fucking annoying. And the crowd was on their side. And I like an underdog because, like I mentioned.

mentioned, I'm an American. And then England went down a man and had to play with just 10 players against Mexico's 11. So I was, I was in. And I like the Harry Kane dude. I do. I just like him. I like him on the field. I like how he plays. And there was the whole wonder wall of it all. I knew that in the moment, in that game. Because a few days earlier, I was rooting hard against England in four D.R. Congo. And D.R. Congo had them on the ropes. And they almost beat him. But Kane and the boys came back and won and the stands went nuts with Wonderwall and I caught it and I was like, what the fuck is this? And then I saw Courtney Love on Instagram waving an English flag talking about soccer and I was like, cool. So when the Mexico game happened, when that was happening, I should say,

and my allegiance was shifting. Part of the reason was that I was hoping to catch a little more of that Wonderwall magic at the end of the game. And what do you know? England beat Mexico. And anyway, here's Wonderwall. And it was fucking glorious, man. It was awesome. It was fucking euphoric, like I said. All these people, just so happy. And I know all winning team soccer fans, football fans are happy in the World Cup, but they don't have Wonderwall, man. That's the difference.

It's glorious. Or as Liam Gallagher tweeted after hearing his voice ring out through Azteca Stadium, I sounded fucking biblical. He said something like that. It's perfect. England, you are my team for the rest of the tournament, however long that may be, all right? hopefully again when you're hearing this england's on their way to playing the finals against uh against spain but who knows it might be argentina one of the coolest things back to rock and roll here one of the

coolest things that i've learned in all my research on disgrace land subjects is how leum's brother noel developed his musicality it was from soccer or football it was from sitting in the stadium watching his team man city and listening to their support It's directly responsible for Noel Gallagher's anthemic songwriting in Oasis. Here's what I mean. This is from part one of our two-parter on Oasis. Matt, give him the clip. Four years old with his dad at Main Road Soccer Stadium, the hallowed ground where Manchester

City's sky blues hovered above the drudgery of working class Manchester, England. Noel Gallagher sat amongst 2,000 other kids stashed away in the stands by their fathers who fucked off to the stadium's bars. And it was here that one of the cornerstones of Noel Gallagher's songwriting was cemented by the raucous sound of Man City's golf celebrations. Thunders, rolls of noise from the bounce of stadium attendees pogging out of their seats and erupting into song whenever City found the back of the net. A full-throated community-wide chorus of the working class united in their support of and commitment to their club. Warring their team's chants, Boys in Blue, were really not here. 1962 and the showstopper, Blue Moon,

and not in the lame-ass Rogers and Hart style that Elvis Presley popularized with his falsetto. At Main Road, Blue Moon was shouted, staccato style, a sort of pre-punk gang vocal being hammered out by 35,000 strong. It was simple, easy to latch on to anthemic, fucking epic. Noel Gallagher would never forget. So, like I said, rock and roll has me rooting for England, okay? No offense to the rest of the teams in the World Cup,

who remained after the U.S. got bounced. But England has the richest musical history. They really do. But who knows? Again, like I said before, by the time you hear this, maybe Messi Magic has struck, and England has been dismissed. Let's hope not.

If that happens, if that happens, if that happens, I guess I'm rooting for Messi. I like that guy, too. I do. Not just because he's like, you know, the Michael Jordan. of soccer, but like Mike, like Mike Kane, like Michael Kane.

Like Harry Kane, Messi's got hair that is, uh, that is not decidedly on rock and roll, okay? Like 90% of the players in this tournament. I don't know what's up with the soccer haircut. The shaved bowl cut Lloyd Christmas starter kit. I can't stand it. Everybody's got it. It's like 90% of the players have this haircut. It's awful.

Seth and I are going to get into this riveting subject of, uh, soccer player's hair to some degree. along with more World Cup talk and a behind the scenes look at the new episodes of disgrace land that we're putting together for you right now. We're trying to figure out what we're putting together right now. Some of these are coming from your suggestions. Some of them are just stories we've wanted to tell ourselves for a long while. And we're trying to figure out which ones are next. Okay. And specifically, I'm trying to figure out what story I'm going to sit down in research next week and then write the week after, or two weeks. after, I should say. That's all happening in the exclusive section of this here afterparty.

Go to disgraceandpod.com to sign up and get exclusive content behind the scenes content like this, plus add free listening on everything we do here. All right. In your feed right now, we have our Happy Monday's episode coming up next right after this after party. Our two-part rewind episode from our archive on the notorious BIG originally released in May of 2021. This episode gets into who I believe murdered the hip hop icon. Now you're not going to want to miss these episodes. All right, listen, and you're going to find out what Shug Nights payroll, what a mysterious 95 Chevy Impala at a red light next to Biggie Smalls on the night he died,

and a cop who was connected to both Big and Pock all has to do with Biggie Smalls's death, perhaps Tupac's as well. All right, then after the rewind, coming next to you. Tuesday, our brand new episode on Dolly Parton. Just a question, why can't female global music stars just make music and not have to deal with threats through their lives? That's the question. I'm asking it, all right? This story gets into those death threats, gets into the murder ballad that almost was Dolly Parton's career, and it tells the story of one of the greatest comebacks ever. So when you're listening to the new Disgraceland, Dolly Parton episode, be thinking

about artists like Dolly, and give us a call at 617-90666. and let us know who your favorite crossover artist is. Dolly Parton, she's thought of as a country artist, but she has had massive pop hits. She's crossed over is the point. So which crossover artist is your favorite? What's the best example of a great crossover artist other than Dolly Parton from music history?

It can be from any genre. It can be from country to pop, like Dolly, rap to rock, like the Beasties. There's a million examples who's the greatest artist to go from one genre to the other. Let us know, 617-90666-6638 voicemail and text. You can email us at Disgracelmpod at gmail.com or hit us on the socials at Disgracelamp Pod. And you might hear your answer on next week's afterparty art.

This goes, your answers to last week's question of the week with your voicemails, your text, your DMs, your emails, and more coming up right after this. I'm Ruby Carr, the host of the podcast, Encore. Check out our brand new episode. featuring music from the show that everyone is reheating as we speak. Heated rivalry. Join me as I go behind the songs that brought Shane and Elia together. I'll tell you the stories of Fice, My Moon, My Man, Wolf forades, I'll Believe in Anything, and tattoos all the things she said,

and how they all became a part of this global phenomenon. Stream encore on IHeart Radio, Crave, or wherever you get your podcasts. Oh, hey, boo. It's me, Roz Hernandez, hostess of Paranour. comedy podcast, ghosted by Roz Hernandez. You know, when I'm not making fun of Invisible Dead People, I'm actually one of the leading, openly transgender stand-up comedians in America. Can you imagine being a transgender comedian in this current America? Well, I wrote an audiobook about it, and you can listen to it now. It's called peeing in an empty bottle. And other glamorous shenanigans of an almost famous transgender

comedian on the road. Available wherever you get audiobooks. All right, so you want to be a rock and roll star? Then listen now. Hear what I say. I'm in the phone booth. It's the one across the hall. Discos. I'm hanging on the telephone with you. 617-906666338. We asked two questions relative to our disgrace and episode on Happy Mondays. What's the most rock star that you've ever been? And who's the most transgressive, hedonistic, debauchous, wild, drugged out band of all time? Got a bunch of different answers. coming in from all different ways. I want to go to Anita in the 512 here with her text.

Jake, I just finished the Happy Monday's episode. Fantastic job. I loved it to answer your question this week. This is the most rock star shit that has ever happened to me. Yes, that is me. On stage with the damned. I was tossed up on stage during their finale, anti-Pope. And Dave grabbed a hold of me and we sang together.

Captain Sensible came over and drank. raped his guitar over me, and I closed the show. I got a hug and a kiss from both Dave and the Captain, greatest night of my life, rock a roller. Anita and the 512, this is perfect. I love it. Thank you very much. Delbert, I got your voicemail. And Delbert, you're too debauch, to rock and roll for the airwaves, man, even for the RSS, okay? Can't get you in here. Too, too, just a little too much, my man, too much. I'm glad to hear you're alive. I truly am. I'm happy to hear you made it and that you're still kicking down there in Louisville. All right. Appreciate the message, though. Let's check out this recommendation from the 808.

Hey, it's Michael Who from Bowling Green, Kentucky. I was just wondering if you ever have or will or could be planning on or would consider doing an episode of Kras, the UK punk band and the NARCO punk band, Crash and G voucher and all. with different members of crafts and kind of the back story and the connection to Chumbawamba. I think that would be a really interesting podcast to who you do because you're the best when it comes to behind the scene rock and roll podcast stuff. So thanks. Looking forward to hearing back. Appreciate it.

Have a good one. And keep up to great work. Michael, appreciate the call, man. Thanks so much. Great suggestion. Don't have it on our list. It's now on the list. Appreciate you.

Crass. Appreciate all the discos. sending in their recommendations. We need them, man. Keep them common, okay? Let's go to the 417. Jake, this is Josh from the 417. Man, I love your show. I was listening to your Sonic Youth episode, and you were talking about married couples in rock and roll bands, and there's one that I don't think you know about that you really should. One of my favorite bands out there is called Shovels and Rope. They're a married couple out of South Carolina, and not only are they a married couple in rock and roll, They're the only two people in the band.

So everything you hear is just the two people up on stage, and they are magic on stage together. They got several albums out. I really think you should check them out, maybe do a show on them sometime. They're really, they're great show. They're still touring around, maybe catch a show for them sometime.

Again, love your show, man. Take it easy. See ya. Josh, amazing call. Thanks so much, dude. I don't know shovels and rope. I know the name. I've seen their names on festival bills before.

I know nothing about the band, and I love this idea that married couples can make it in bands because it's an insane lifestyle in business to try to just maintain a marriage, never mind romance. I mean, maintaining romance and marriage is hard over time anyways, and hearing about when it works is inspiring in any world, really, but especially in music, for sure. And, you know, you made me think, when you made me think, when you mentioned, and shovels and rope, you made me think of another one that you're probably hip to. And I'm not even sure if this is accurate, but Jillian Welch and Dave Rawlings.

And is it Gillian or Gillian, by the way? I never fucking know. I apologize. Gillian, Jillian, Jillian. I've heard it a million different ways. Same thing with Jillian Flynn, Gillian Flynn. You know what I mean? It's, but whatever.

You know what I'm saying? Gillian Welch and David Rawlings. I believe they're married and they're fucking great. They are so good. They are so fantastic. Um, seen them live twice, definitely once. No, twice. And, uh, I, I particularly remember seeing them at the House of Blues in Boston right around

the time of that, uh, what's that record called, what Time the Revelator? Is it called Time the Revelator? That album there, uh, fantastic album, whatever it's called, you know what I'm talking about? It's kind of just after they worked with Ryan Adams on Heartbreaker. and I don't even think House of Blues was House of Blues yet. I think it was still called the Avalon, and they destroyed it. They were so great. I think they're married.

If not, hey, good excuse for a recommendation there. Gillian slash Gillian Welch and David Rawling. Someone please call me and tell me how to pronounce her name, and I'll apologize to her when we get it right. Okay, 617-9066-66-338. You want to leave me a voicemail. You want to send me a text onto the subject of Happy Mondays. this week's full episode of disgrace land.

We asked the question, what's the most hedonistic, debauchous, transgressive band from music history? And oh, boy, do we get a lot of comments? I'm just going to click through a bunch of these. These are from, where are we? Instagram. And it's, I mean, this is great.

This is like fantastic, not just recommendations on what to listen to, but recommendations on podcasts we've done, podcast we can do. I'm going to click through a bunch of these because this is a ton. F-in-good music writes MC5, the White Panther Party,

deserves its own one crazy night style movie. Absolutely does, and we get into that in the MC5 episode, a little bit. Jeff Baker 835 up in Boston says, hey, might have to go with the Lovin Brothers. Fantastic recommendation. And I know a little bit about the Lovin story. I need to know more about it.

We need to do an episode on that. Too Fast for Love. Too Fast for Love images. Excuse me. Just writes in Wilson Phillips. They're kidding. Campground visual, hey, butthole surfers should be on this list. The new documentary on them is amazing.

I want to talk about that for a second before I read the rest of that. I don't know a lot about butthole surfers. I've seen butthole surfers, I think twice. But anyways, Gibby came up a bunch in the John Fushanti research that I just finished. I just finished putting that episode together for you guys. And complete and total psychopath. And there's footage. I saw them on the Lollah

Palooza tour the first one. And I remember, I think I remember hearing about it, I don't remember seeing it. The shotgun on stage, there's footage of this online. You can see Gibby Haynes from Butthole Surfers on stage at Lollapalooza firing off a fucking shotgun on stage. What's that all about? And get away with it. So I can't imagine what this documentary is. I don't know what it is, but I need to get into it.

C. Jules, writes, and the birthday party, they're all wildly insane and made great music. Nick Cave was mild compared to Tracy Pugh, the bass guitarist. The documentary recently released, Mutiny in Heaven, captures the full story beautifully, a definite must watch. I love this. Thank you, Cjules. I will absolutely watch this. I've been looking for an angle into Nick Cave for a while, and this might help me out. Thank you. All right, this one is the one I want to get to. Richie underscore V1, 2, 3, writes, and hey, believe it or not, country, starred Johnny Rodriguez. His piano player slash tour manager was a regular guy at my bar. And the stories that that guy told me, if even half of them were true,

Johnny belongs on the list. And I wrote, really, I wonder what stories there are. Give us a taste. And someone named Scott underscore Ward wrote, Johnny did jail time for stealing a goat. I don't know what that's about. But I think there's murder connected to this story.

And, you know, there's a bunch of other mentions here. The G.G. Allen's, the Norwegian black metal, whole bunch of stuff weird spring writes in any band involved in the boston hardcore scene in the early odds i'm not touching that i like being on this side of the ground tsol now that's funny that's not funny that's actually really interesting to me jack in that whole scene uh great great answers guys appreciate it thank you that's over at disgrace land pod on instagram get in the conversation there if you want you can also if you want a more direct line 617 906 66638 voicemail and text.

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We missed you. Also like to welcome Katie Crook to the Patreon. on Katie is our most recent all-access member Katie get in here get in the chat introduce yourself Ryan L I see you I see you in the comments on the happy Monday's episode thanks my man happy you enjoyed it appreciate you you guys want to become all access members you want a deeper conversation with us and the rest of your disgraceland fellow listeners disgraceland pod at gmail.com to sign up all right so where are we here 617906 666 668 voicemail and text You want to get asked with the answer to the question of the week next week,

which is going to be who's your favorite crossover artist? Is it Dolly Parton going from Jolene to 9 to 5? Ray Charles, Beastie Boys, like I said, so many examples. Hit us up, 617-90666-6638 voicemail and text at Disgracelampod on the social's disgracelampod at gmail.com if you want to email me, or you can jump in the Patreon chat and you can sign up at disgracefond.com to do that. All right, on the subject of Happy Mondays. There are many musicians, many actors who have run for office.

Sonny Bono, Jell Biafro, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Ronald Reagan. But not many have created their own political party. In 2014, Mark Berry, also known as Bez from Happy Mondays, founded the We Are the Reality Party. But Bez, he's not your usual musician, okay? He doesn't write songs. He doesn't play any traditional instruments. But what he does do is play the Maracca's,

along with his signature, quote-unquote, freaky dancing in England's most hedonistic and transgressive band ever. Happy Monday. So when his party ran for seats in three English constituencies, people were amused. And despite running on a platform of free energy, free food, and free anything,

Bez in his platform, his party here, only received 703 votes. Okay, Bez is not the usual musician. that's the point. And he definitely was not the usual politician. He's Bez from the Happy Mondays. And if you want to hear more about that, you got to check out the latest episode of Disgrace Sand. Don't go anywhere at discos. We'll be back right after this with your emails and more. I'm Ruby Carr, the host of the podcast, Encore. Check out our brand new episodes featuring music from the show that everyone is reheating as we speak. Heated rivalry. Join me as I go behind the songs that brought Shane and Elia together. I'll tell you the stories of Fice,

My Moon, My Man, Wolf Parades I'll Believe in Anything, and tattoos all the things she said, and how they all became a part of this global phenomenon. Stream Encore on IHeart Radio, Crave, or wherever you get your podcasts. Oh, hey, Boo. It's me, Roz Hernandez, hostess of paranormal comedy podcast, ghosted by Roz Hernandez. You know, when I'm not making fun of Invisible Dead people, I'm actually one of the leading openly transgender stand-up comedians in America. Can you imagine being a transgender comedian in this current America? Well, I wrote an audiobook about it, and you can listen to it now.

It's called peeing in an empty bottle and other glamorous shenanigans of an almost famous transgender comedian on the road. Available wherever you get audiobooks. All right, we are back, guys. Thanks for hanging in there with us. I don't know what I don't know what I've come down with here, but it's coming fast, man. It sucks because, you know, I want to watch that game today. I'm still going to watch it.

I'm going to play hurt. Okay? Nothing's going to keep me off the pitch. That's what I'm saying. Disgraceampod at gmail.com. You guys want to email me on any subject at all. That's how you do it. This one comes from Jeremy Stein.

subject, wildest thing seen at a show. Back in 1991, I was at a Fishbone Prime show in Toronto, and in the middle of one of the songs, Angelo, the lead of Fishbone, climbed up the speaker, stacked to the balcony, while singing, worked his way to the back of the theater, stood on the edge of the balcony, and dropped off, knowing, of course, that his fans would catch him.

As a 20-year-old, this blew my skull that someone would do this. Fast forward to about five years ago, Fishbone came around again. And this time, there were maybe 20 dudes in the crowd, and all of them were in their 40s. Sure enough, in the middle of a song, Angel, did the same thing, dove into the crowd knowing that his fans would catch him. And they did, even though my back hurt for a week, it was still worth it. Jeremy, I hope your back's okay, first and foremost. Second, I admire your commitment to Fishbone.

Great band. Truth in Soul, which is one of the greatest albums. It's start to finish, no skips, incredible. That album doesn't get enough. Enough talkie talk. All right, what are you guys watching? I am almost all caught up. No, I am.

I'm all caught up with Cape Fear, and I am loving it. Zeth Lundy, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Zeth doesn't like this show. It's great. You know, it's not, you know, autore cinema, but it's great television. Scary. Actually scary. and I'm digging it.

So I'm almost done there. I'm also loving sugar. I think I talked to you guys about sugar last week. I can't remember sugar's great as well. I got a new episode to watch tonight if I can make it that far. And then, of course, I'm watching everything Zeth Lundy tells me to watch in the Hollywoodland screening room. If you don't know about the Hollywoodland screening room, it's Zeth's episode in the Hollywoodland feed on Fridays, where he tease up a film that we watch over the weekend, required viewing.

And then we come back and we talk about it week after. uh, Clinton Reese on Patreon says, uh, Hey, I've been in the habit lately of pausing the screening room during the playlist segment and going to listen to the songs, The Good Doctor that Seth puts me onto from his list.

And I heard that REM song before. I just never learned what the hell the title was. Thank you, Zeth. See, I'm not going to tell you what the title of that song is here. You're going to have to go to the screening room and check that out. Point is, we're learning stuff together in the screening room,

not just about music, but not just about movies, but about the music in the movies as well, okay? And we get to our recommendation, my music recommendations jumping off of our movie conversation. That happens in the Hollywoodland rap party every week. We had a great one this week. We were discussing songs about fashion. Okay, this stems from our Gianni Versace episode. And I went deep into some wormholes here and pulled out some choice nugs that you're likely not going to get anywhere else. And I can't wait for you to hear this.

go to Hollywoodland and subscribe on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. You get three episodes a week over there, two of them are new, one of them's an archive, plenty of content, great conversation with Zeth. He is a master. Make sure you're checking that out. Zeth and I also talk once a month, for now anyways, once a month about our favorite music from our favorite movies. It's our music and film video podcast called This Film Should Be Played loud. And we just, we got a new one coming next week, right? Or at the end of the month, whenever that is, on do the right thing. And I just, I just watched the cut this morning. It's the, by far the best one we've done yet. It's so good. It's a movie that we clearly

both love. The music in this movie is about as impactful as music in a movie can get, Spike Lee does things in a way that other filmmakers do not when it comes to music. So it kicked off a great conversation and just, you know, Sweet Dick Willie, man. Sweet Dick Willie's a poet and he needs to be celebrated

as much as possible in culture. And I don't think that Sweet Dick Willie has gotten enough of a shake, if you know what I'm saying. And we give all the shakes to Sweet Dick Willie in this film should be played loud. Matt, give us a little taste, will you?

All the sort of of like hemen and haun over the influence of public enemy on white america and whatever you know what i mean like we were what they were worried about you know we were the kids in suburbia that were hearing this shit you know and and and it really it really changed me it literally it forced me to seek out malcolm x and to read his autobiography yep and it forced me to really cons i mean that video was like it was chilling. Oh. The video that's intrinsically

galvanizing, you know. It's intrinsically involved with this film. Right, right. And the whole thing together was just like a, it was like a wake-up call that summer. You know, I say summer. I feel like I watched it during the summer because summer is such the theme of the movie

and the song in the video. Yeah, yeah. But I do remember, I remember hanging up on High Street and Clinton with my friends and, you know, looking for a buyer and listening to the song when it came out on a boom box

and like just, it was constantly being played. It was a big, part of our our little zeitgeist this was this was my intro to like hip hop to like real hip hop you know like not uh no shade to like tone loke or anything but like you know what like you unlike you i wasn't really familiar with public enemy until this song happened and this song just like grabbed me and would not let go and um and like i said this was where i was like shit this music is electric you know when i need to hear more of it yeah yeah it's it's my favorite public enemy recording. It is everything.

And I don't know much of, I know. I don't know much about the recording, but I know it's post-Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back, which is their classic album, right? That's the one that people consider like their kind of masterpiece. This comes out after it. Right. But it comes out as a single first. Right. Well, it was conceived for this movie, and it might be the single

greatest moment in recorded music history where they had the explicit instructions where Spike Lee was like, you need to make the anthem of the summer. I need the biggest fucking song that's going to speak to this movie and speak to the culture and everything. Oh my God. And they came through on this challenge, you know, I think Hank Shockley talked about how we wanted to make it sound like the streets of New York sounded at the time. Oh, he fucking killed it. And, and, and, all right, that is a preview of our do the right thing episode from this film should be played loud. That's coming up, uh, end of this month.

Go to disgracelandpod.com to sign up to become a all access members so you can you can gain access to this film should be played loud over on Patreon next we're already done the next months next month next month is going to be on licorice pizza and then we need your help figuring out what we're doing beyond that we'll get into the patreon chat with all you and we'll do that together okay speaking of exclusive content speaking to zeth we're talking about a lot of stuff in the exclusive section of this after party coming up right after this we get into the world cup um i don't even remember what the point of our conversation was but We just kind of fell into this conversation,

a real kind of behind the scenes thing about what we're writing, what's coming up next, what we should be doing next based in part on your recommendations. And we thought you guys would like it, bring you into the conversation, get in here with us. That's coming up for all access members right now. All right, we'll be back after this.

All right, we're back. We're ready to split. But before we do, just want to say that we mentioned Oasis, we mentioned Tupac, among others in this episode. And of course, we have episodes on those artists, stories about those artists in our archive

of over 270 artists at this point. Matt's going to grab that episode info on those subjects and put them in the show notes here so you can easily navigate your way to those stories. Let's recap, shall we? Number one, this week, our new episode on Happy Mondays. That's available for you to check out right now. Number two in the rewind slot this weekend,

our classic two-part episode. on the iconic notorious B-I-G. Number three next week, coming up, our new episode on Dolly Parton. Number four, Zeth gives you those Hollywood and crime vibes in Hollywood land, so make sure you are subscribed, and I give you my music recommendations

in the rap party over there in that feed. Number five, currently, this film should be played loud. The video podcast episode on Dazed and Confused is available right now. And our next episode, on Do the Right Thing, is coming July 29. That's what it is. July 29th. Go to disgrace-sandpod.com to sign up to become an all-access member and unlock exclusive content just like this, along with ad-free listening.

617-90666-6638. Your voice keeps us digging into the dark corners of music history, so keep calling, texting with your answers to this week's question in the week or with whatever else you want to talk about. Number seven, don't forget discos. This isn't just content. It's a community, a community of the obsessed. And no one cares about music books, records in the crime and grime that ties them all together like you do. And that's a disgrace. Back on January 17th, 1992, happy Mondays landed in Barbados and all hell broke loose. And this is what America was listening to on that day, according to the billboard charts. Number one, end of the road from boomerang. Boys to men. Last week. One.

Peak position. One. Weeks on chart. Nine. Number two. Baby. Baby. Baby.

TLC. Last week. Two. Peak position. Number four. Weeks on chart. Fifteen. Number three, Humping Around.

Bobby Brown. Last week. Four. Peak position. Three. Weeks on chart. Six. Number four, November rain.

Gums and roses. Last week. Three. Peak position. Three. Weeks on chart. Two. Number five.

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