DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode: A Tribute to Dolly Parton

Episode Date: August 27, 2026

Dolly Parton has passed away. Dolly Parton was a musical giant, an American songwriter worthy of a place on the same page in the music history books as Bob Dylan, Kurt Cobain, Johnny Cash, Taylor Swif...t, or anyone else you can think of. More importantly, she was a first-class human, and an inspiration to me and many, many others.   For more great stories at the intersection of music and true crime, check out these episodes: The Go-Gos Bob Dylan  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:29 the backyard to dig into the dirt. Our mission to uncover the truth and to confront the myth to reclaim the story on this bonus episode, we pay tribute to one of the greatest songwriters to ever put pen to paper, to ever pick up a guitar, to ever sing into a microphone, one of the all-time great human beings as well, Dolly Parton. We're going to take a trip into the punk scenes that you love and discuss what killed them and what kept them alive. We're also talking Alice Bagg in L.A. punk rock.
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Starting point is 00:02:18 All right, discos, let's get into it. So Dolly Parton passed away this week. Of all the musicians that we've covered who have died since we launched this podcast, this one feels different. And that's because Dolly Parton was so different. In every way, from every one of her contemporary, she was different, from every one of her predecessors, her protegees. The thing that made Dolly Parton so different,
Starting point is 00:02:57 it wasn't necessarily her music or her persona or her image. It was her grace. I can't think of another musician who lived with so much grace as Dolly Parton did, who put love and specifically empathy into nearly every move that she made. At least it seemed like that. And I'm not just talking about her charitable work, which is worth taking a serious look at and that we'll get into in just a moment, but I'm talking about the way that she interacted with other artists,
Starting point is 00:03:30 the way in which she connected with the public. how she spoke, performed, wrote songs. If there's one singular quality to Dolly Parton, it's grace. When you watch her, you can feel the empathy. You can almost see the Dolly antenna fine-tuned to the needs of others. You can see it in those great late-night talk show interviews on Johnny Carson and David Letterman. You can see it in the award show acceptance speeches into the rock and roll and country halls of fame at the Grammys, presenting an award to Whitney Houston to someone else for a song that she wrote.
Starting point is 00:04:09 You can hear it in her biggest hits, I will always love you, and Jolene. You can feel it in her duets with Willie Nelson and Kenny Rogers, in her collaborations with other female artists, Linda Ronstadt, Emmy Lou Harris, Miley Cyrus, and Nora Jones. You can see it in her big screen performances, Steel Magnolias, 9 to 5. You can watch it on the small screen on her TV specials, her variety show, on old epist,
Starting point is 00:04:33 of He-Ha or the Porter Wagoner show. And hell, you can even see it in her guest spots on the Muppet show with Kermit and Miss Piggy. It's always Dolly Parton making other people feel good, making us feel good. Always. Even now, at the time of her death, when we think about her, we feel good. That's not an accident. That's intentional. That's grace.
Starting point is 00:04:57 And Dolly Parton had more of it than any successful artists for music history that I can think of. She will be deeply missed and she will never be replaced. And there's a lot being said about the trailblazing nature of Dolly's career, the way in which she modeled self-worth for future generations of women, and that should not be overlooked. She stared down Colonel Tom Parker, turned down Elvis Presley, broke free from Porter Wagoner, and she did it all with a smile on her face.
Starting point is 00:05:27 But Dolly Parton was more than just a feminist. She was a humanist, a model. a model for all of us, not just women, not just musicians, not just southerners, not just music fans, not just country music fans. If you want to have a better life, if you want to live a better life, if you want to be treated better, if you want to treat people better, if you want to write better songs, if you want to understand how to present yourself on screen, how to act, how to sing, how to make people laugh, how to love.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Well, I can't think of another person who better modeled all of these things than Dolly Parton. Dolly Parton credited her faith for the reason her heart was so big, saying she was open to, quote, everybody in everything, unquote. Man, I wish I had that quality. On its face, you know, we think about that, you know, she's saying she was open to everybody in everything. You know, I like to think that I'm that way. We all like to think that we're that way. but you go out into the world and that goodwill, that openness to others, it can be hard to summon. Life's little annoyances, the impatience we encounter from other people, the dismissiveness,
Starting point is 00:06:42 the unnecessary attitudes, the judgment, our own imperfections, our own shortcomings, our own judgment, the cynicism of modern life, the world's natural injustices, the pigs empower, all of it. life has a way of closing your heart to everybody and everything, not opening it, as Dolly Parton said. Again, she said my heart is open to everybody and everything. That is grace. Dolly Parton broke free from generational poverty and created generational wealth. She died with a net worth of $650 million and gave away hundreds of millions of dollars to various charities along the way throughout her life. She gifted over 300 million books to children worldwide, provided millions in scholarships, donated to local hospitals, schools, businesses, kids in her community who needed a hand, disaster relief, and way more.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Dolly Parton was good to people because Dolly Parton believed in, as she said, the goodness of people. And man, all of us could benefit from being more like Dolly Parton, from having even just a small percentage of people. of the grace Dolly Parton lived with. I sometimes fantasize about hosting a different podcast, one that isn't based largely on the dark and evil transgressions from music history, one that isn't focused so often on the shittiness and narcissism of so many musicians, but that is instead based on the good that musicians put into the world, the grace. Of course, instead of calling it disgrace land, we'll call it Graceland.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Or maybe we should just call it Dollyland. rest in peace Dolly Parton So, you know The way Dolly lived You might not know it from that That tribute that I just paid to her
Starting point is 00:08:42 She's fucking hysterical Just there's so many funny stories Popping up There's one here I'm going to read Matt's sent us a bunch this morning This one's so good On the set of 9 to 4 the director raised his voice at Dolly Parton in front of the whole crew saying something like,
Starting point is 00:09:05 I don't know why they hired you for this film. You can't even act. And she responded, they hired me because I'm Dolly Parton. And they hired you to make it look like I can act. I love that. And there's way funnier stuff that's out there making the rounds right now. People are online talking about it. So we're going to dive into some of the funnier stuff, some of the levity connected to Dolly Parton,
Starting point is 00:09:26 in the exclusive section of this after party. Zeth and I Zeth's out there pounding the pavement. trying to get some stuff for you that hopefully you haven't seen yet. We'll talk about that in the exclusive section of the after party. Go to disgrace landpod.com to sign up, get exclusive content like this plus ad free listening. All right. In the feed right now, we have our Alice Bagg episode. If you're a Spotify listener, check it out.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Listen, apologies, man. I don't know. We don't have an explanation, but it didn't publish to Spotify until late, late, late Tuesday night. almost 24 hours from when it normally posts. And we don't know why it was just Spotify. It hit everywhere else on Apple Podcasts. So if you haven't heard the Alice Bag episode, if you don't have it,
Starting point is 00:10:10 if you're like, what the fuck is you talking about? Check your feed. You should have it. Refresh your feed. If you're Spotify listeners especially, everybody else, you know, there were some operational gremlins in the background.
Starting point is 00:10:23 So I don't know if you're on another player and you don't have it. Again, refresh your feed and or close your app. and reopen it and let us know if you got it if you didn't of course and we'll make sure you you hear this story the story is great it deals with serial killers that haunted the la punk venue the mask and how one singer you can guess who alice bag in that scene led an army of punks to defend uh defend themselves basically uh this is the story of how punk rock took root in l. at the same time like i said that a killer began to terrorize the city it's a story of an underground club where
Starting point is 00:10:58 bands like the bags and the germs got their start. If you don't know who the germs are, and you're a foo fighters fan, that's Pat Smir's first band, all right? It's also the story of that club I just mentioned, the mask turned up dead, strangled and dumped on a freeway off-ramp near Griffith Park. It's a story about the murders of 10 young women,
Starting point is 00:11:17 all of them killed within the span of four months. The murders sent Los Angeles into a paranoid frenzy, and it fortified the community of punk rockers who did, I guess, what comes naturally to people in marginalized scenes, in underground scenes, whatever you want to call it, they found strength in numbers, and they looked to the guidance of one of their protectors,
Starting point is 00:11:38 a punk who wore a paper bag over her head. Again, you can guess who. This is the story of Alice Bagg, leader of the Seminole L.A. punk band called The Bags, and it's a story of L.A. punk rock being born in the shadow of the Hillside Strangler. Make sure you check that out. Alice Bag, that's available for you right now in Disgraceland.
Starting point is 00:11:57 that's this week we were planning in the rewind slot to feature billy holladay but we're going to um sideline lady day and go with dolly part we're going to rewind dolly part and even though we release this episode a couple months ago at this point we're going to re-release it for obvious reasons in the rewind slot i don't care if you listen to this when it came out listen to it again you're going to be listening again through the lens of dolly in a new light having you know because of the fact that she just passed away All right. If you want to hear about Dolly's rise from poverty,
Starting point is 00:12:30 and if you haven't heard this episode and you want to know more about Dolly Parton, you want to hear about Dolly Parton's rise from poverty in Appalachia, the threats against her life that she overcame the murder ballads that informed not only her music, but how she navigated a male-dominated music industry, then you have got to listen to the Dolly Parton episode in Disgraceland, coming at you this weekend in the rewind slot. Question of the week. This week is about Dolly Parton.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Is Dolly Parton on the top five list of Greatest American songwriters of all time. And if she's not, who is it that is keeping her off of that list? Give us a call at 617-906-66-66-38. Leave a voicemail for us. Let us know what you think. Let us know your answer. Send us a text as well. 617-9066-66-638. You can also email us at disgracelamp pod or hit us on the socials at disgracelam pod. Jump into the melee on Instagram. Let us know. And you might hear your answer on next week's afterpartial. All right, this goes, your answers to last week's question of the week with your voicemails, texts, DMs, and more coming up right after this.
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Starting point is 00:14:46 All right, Jolene, Jolene, I will always love you. We are back, 617-90666-36-3-8. Last week's question of the week relative to our disgrace land episode on Alice Bagg was what music scene do you wish you could go back in time to witness and what artists deserve more recognition from those scenes? Let's hear from Neil in the 514. Hey, Jake. It's Neil from the 514, a long-time listener. I was just listening to your bonus episode and a question about scenes and unrecognized artists.
Starting point is 00:15:23 I'm in Montreal, and we have some quite well-known artists from the mid-2000s from here that everyone knows will pray, everyone knows it, everyone knows it grimes. Love the show. Rock and Roll up. all right neal thank you from montreal i never think of montreal man i apologize i don't think of canada when i think of great music scenes i really don't but you're laying it out here for us mid 2000s montreal arcade fire wolf parade grimes i really don't consider canada when i consider it's stupid i literally just had to look up earlier uh neil when i was thinking of great
Starting point is 00:16:05 american songwriters relative to dolly part and i was seeing it to Leonard Cohen, and I was like, wait, he's not American. He's Canadian, right? Let's check out this call from Junior and the 714 talking about dueling brothers. We were talking about this last week regards to shit, man. I don't know how it came up. I think we got into Oasis and Black Crows. Junior, what say you? Hey, Jake, this is Junior. 714. Dueling brothers. I don't know if you got two them, but the blasters down in California, late 70s, early 80s, rockabillion roots. Those brothers were incredible, but they were at each other throughout 90% of the time. A band that is essential to a scene, the Cadillac Tramps, early 90s, Orange County, Los Angeles,
Starting point is 00:16:51 when Rockabilly Scott and Punk all lived harmoniously together. The tramps were on top, unfortunately, didn't make it. They're still playing to this day under the Cadillac Hearst as their singer passed away eight years ago. Johnny Teuback, their guitar player, is currently playing for the past 20 plus years with social distortion. But the Cadillac Tramps, incredible punk, rock, roots, blues. If you haven't heard of them, check them out. Take it easy, Jake. Keep doing what you're doing. Later. Junior, really appreciate the call, man. Cadillac Tramps, I don't know this band,
Starting point is 00:17:31 but I'm psyched to listen to him. Thank you. I know the Blasters well, and this dovetails, nicely with the Alice Baggs story because they were around in LA, part of that early punk scene. Of course, they were not a punk. Well, I mean, in spirit, they were punk. But they kind of totally exemplify what we now call Americana music. American music, is that a full length or a collection? I can't remember.
Starting point is 00:18:00 I used to have it. I have it somewhere. I had it on CD. Blasters are incredible. I played with the blasters when they reunited in the. in the aughts at some point. I played with Dave Alvin's solo in Europe, and I played, like I said,
Starting point is 00:18:15 I played with the Blasters when they did a reunion tour sometime in the aughts in Boston at the Paradise. And I was backstage, actually, the guitar I'm looking at right now. It's about two feet from me. I was talking about this in one of the episodes with Zeth recently in Mike Gibson, J-180. Oh, yeah, in regards to dueling brothers, in regards to the Everly brothers.
Starting point is 00:18:35 I was tied to the, yeah, So you know, Jr., that's why you're calling. And the guitar I was talking about, the one that's based on the Don Everly, Ike guitar, my Gibson J-1-80, Phil, Alvin, loved it. And he, we were backstage, he picked it up, and he was showing me how to play what he called Clawhammer Blues. Other people call it that as well. And he was really beating the shit on my guitar, if I'm being honest.
Starting point is 00:19:03 But he's playing it like a motherfucker. That was a good memory. Thanks for reminding me of it. Appreciate it. And if anybody has not heard the Blasters or Dave Alvin. There's some Dave Alvin's solo stuff too. That's just fucking great. Anyways, check that out.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Blasters. American music. Let's go back to this topic of scenes and check in with the 864. Hey, Jake. This is Mary. I'm from South Carolina. And I'm from a particular town where an awesome southern rock band is from. I'm from Spartanburg, and the Southern Rock Band that is quintessential to the Southern Rock Band scene, I feel, is from Spartanburg.
Starting point is 00:19:46 They're called the Marshall Tucker Band. I would honestly be surprised if you had never heard some of their hits, but they're legendary. They vote for the Grateful Dead. One of my best friends all throughout school, his dad was the loudest and Woodwin player. for the band, and he's actually the member of the band, I feel, that makes them so iconic, and their song openings are just so iconic and awesome because of him. Another Southern rock band, I know they didn't form in the South, but most of their songs are pretty Southern and about the South, and I think they're pretty quintessential
Starting point is 00:20:34 also, Little Feet, which is it. Thank you so much for telling us such amazing stories. Have a great night. Bye. Mary, appreciate the call. Yeah, I know Marshall Tucker band. I don't know Marshall Tucker. Is there a Marshall Tucker in the Marshall Tucker band? That song, can't you see? Their big hit is just incredible. It's just incredible. It's the ultimate sitting around a campfire with an acoustic guitar. I'm going to play you a song right now that everybody's going to love and everybody's going to be into. And it's going to make beers taste colder. It's going to make that moonlight a little short.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Sharper, you know, just a great, great tune. And I want to tell you something where you put a flute into anything and I'm listening, all right? That's just the way I am. As for Little Feet, not a huge fan, never have been. And I think it's just because that song Willen has been played to death in, you know, in clubs in and around Boston or was played to death when I was growing up. And it just kind of killed it for me. But I'm willing to be willing about Little Feet, all right?
Starting point is 00:21:33 I'm willing to be willing. I'm willing to have my mind changed. Appreciate the call, Mary. All right, 617-906-66-6-36-3-8. Let's do some texts, shall we? Mike from the 9-25. I have a couple bands for you to check out for a possible deep dive.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Quick-sand. Come on, Mike. Death Angel. I can help connect you with Mark. That sounds interesting. My apologies, if you've already covered these dudes, thanks for all the hard work. Quicksand.
Starting point is 00:21:58 I don't know, man. I know those guys a little bit. I've met Walter a couple times. and Tom Capone, who was also in a great band called Handsome. Love Quicksand, one of my favorite bands of all time. But I don't know, man. I don't know if there's much crime there. And if there is, I don't want to know.
Starting point is 00:22:16 I like them too much. I'm too personally connected to them. I have friends who are really good friends with them, and they're on tour with my friend's band Bain right now. It's a whole thing. Death Angel, shit, man, I remember Death Angel briefly from the 80s. And sort of that whole, like, flots of men. Jetsam era and I don't I can try to think of the death angel album that we were into but yeah man Mike
Starting point is 00:22:40 hit me back with some death angel info I'm curious I'm death angel curious okay 909 text in first of all love the Jake versus zeff banter second you didn't mention ray and Dave Davies of the kinks in your discussion of brother bands lots of volatility in their story to rock a roll of scott from the nine oh nine Scott from the nine oh nine I love saying nine oh nine Scott oh Oh, we didn't talk about the Davies brothers? I'm going to deferred ear memory on that instead of mine. I barely remember the brother conversation. It took the disco who was talking about the Alvin brothers.
Starting point is 00:23:18 I didn't even know when that conversation happened. Okay, if we left off the Davies, I apologize. Also, this is kind of a weak spot in my music history, is the history of the kinks. we did a little bit of a deep dive, not a deep dive. We had a conversation about the Davies brothers, Zeth and I a couple months back. And I was a little shocked at some of the stuff I was reading. But I feel like there's a disgrace sign episode there at some point. 416 Texan, hey, Southern rock band, you don't hear much about it anymore.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Molly Hatchett, Jacksonville, Florida. Oh, Jason in the 416. You know, great Florida bands is a subject that I would really like to dive deep into that aren't named Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers because they're the greatest Florida band of all time. Are they not? Is there anyone better? Jason, let's let's unpack that one a little bit. Texas Spack, okay? Guys, you want to be like your fellow discos that we just heard from? Give us a call. Send us a text. 617-90666-6638. You talk about anything you want. Give us your answer to the Dolly Parton question we posed earlier. If Dolly's not on the top five list
Starting point is 00:24:31 of greatest American songwriters of all time, who is? That's the question. Hit us up. 617-906-66-6-6-38. We can talk brother bands. We can talk southern rock. We can talk L.A. punk. We can talk scenes that have not gotten their due.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Bands who helped form them. Hit us up. Let us know. I'm going to pitch you the most badass music biopic that will probably never get made. I'm going to do that right now. The trailer will start with this cheesy line. Some superheroes wear a mask. But this hero,
Starting point is 00:25:01 wore a paper bag. But the thing is, guys, this is true. When a member of the LA punk scene was brutally murdered by the hillside strangler, one punk stepped up to protect the rest. She wasn't born a protector. She was made into one when her father beat her mother with his belt in front of the entire neighborhood. It was Alicia Amandaras who stepped in. Protection was necessary. L.A. in the late 70s, it was life or death. Alicia took that instinct to school where bullies targeted her Chicano roots where words were not enough, where violence was the lesson of the day, where protection was a contact sport outside of school, out on the streets where their punk rock friends, it wasn't just bullies Alicia had to deal with. It was a serial killer, killers to be precise. So,
Starting point is 00:25:46 Alicia stopped being Alicia and became Alice. Alice, who augmented her torn t-shirts, bright green stockings and heels with a paper bag over her head. Alice Bag, protector of the punks, the story of Alice Bagg in the early LA punk scene of a city being terrorized by the hillside stranglers. It's not just something for the music history books. It's an origin story, a superhero origin story. Alice Bagg in disgrace land this week. Check that out. We'll be back right after this. Eating well shouldn't be complicated, but somehow it turns into recipes, prep, clean up, and half your Sunday gone. Factors solves all that. These are fresh, ready to meals designed by dietitians, delivered to your door, and ready in just minutes. No prep,
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Starting point is 00:27:39 disgracelam pod at gmail.com. This one comes from Adam last week. We were discussing some of those great shows, great concerts that MTV aired back in the 90s, not just MTV implugged. We were talking about the Oasis one, the Portishead one, the radio head one. So Adam writes,
Starting point is 00:28:01 and dude, I totally remember those epic events. Some bands I didn't really like had the best shows. The LL Cool J one was epic even. The Nirvana one, still has to be my favorite. The alice in Chains one was close to it. The whole semi-unplugged monitor being an amp for Kurt was always a fun punk move, and I love to read about it.
Starting point is 00:28:18 Anyway, 90s guys getting lost in the past. Always seemed like hell at the time, but it's way better in rose-colored glasses looking backwards with nostalgia. And I'll love the show. Rocka Rola. That one comes from Adam. Adam, you're absolutely right. You mentioned a couple of my favorite unplugged episodes. The LL Cool J1 was fantastic.
Starting point is 00:28:37 That live band. the roots, right? I think that was the band backing them up. He had those fucking golf balls hanging out of his armpits. Remember that? The fucking deodorant. The Normano one, iconic, immediately, Allison changed. They got a great EP out of their unplug set as well. Just totally awesome. Rob B writes in, Rob B is spelled R-A-W-B-E-E. Hey, Jake, I have to recommend a movie. You've probably seen it, but if not, it's a, you need to grab a frosty pint of mousse head, put the phone in airplane mode, flop out on the butt cushion, and do not take your starving eyeballs off of it. It's called the last stop in Yuma County. Call me when you finish it. We'll chat.
Starting point is 00:29:19 Cheers from the 519 in Waterloo, Canada. Waterloo Canada, we're connecting our Canadian voicemail from earlier with the kinks. We're doing it through Yuma County. I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. The last stop in Yuma County. What is this? Is it a Western? Is Eul Brenner in it? Why do I associate Eul Brenner with Yuma County? Is it just Yule and Yuma? Is that why? Am I that simple?
Starting point is 00:29:47 I am. I'm even more simple. Got a preview of our new disgrace land subjects coming out of you next week. And listen, you guys want to help us pick these subjects. You want more of a hand in this, more of a say, more of a voice. You want more of a formal role in figuring out what musicians we cover. Well, you can take part in that by joining. our Zoom, the rest of the discos, the rest of the all access members. And we're going to chop it up.
Starting point is 00:30:16 We don't have a date yet, but I want to put that together soon. We're going to jump on Zoom. Many of you as the software can handle, and we're going to try to have a civilized conversation about which artists we want to cover coming up. So you want that, you want to be part of that. Go to disgracefulmpod.com to sign up. You're supporting the show as well. Plus, you're going to get all kinds of bonus content, add free content, ad free listening, and exclusive content. Like I said, like our new episode of this film should be played loud on licorice pizza. Matt, give him a taste. All right, song that got me down the rabbit hole is slip away by the horniest man in show business, Clarence Carter. And this is in the scene where we're starting to catch Alana's entry into
Starting point is 00:31:00 the world of politics. Yes. And she joins the wax campaign. Not the Wax campaign. Right, right. I didn't abe this. I didn't look into it, but I suspect that Paul Thomas Anderson is in this scene in licorice pizza. While Alana is being introduced to the world of politics and the wax campaign, that he, the filmmaker, is paying homage to Martin Scorsese and taxi driver and that whole thing.
Starting point is 00:31:23 When they get into the whole political campaign with Travis Bickle and Sybil Shepard. You know what I'm saying? He's watching them from outside, just like this mystery man is watching from outside. I love to how, I mean, at least in my view, is this guy who's watching, is he, like, one of Joel Wax's, like, ex-lovers who's pissed or is he, like... Well, you don't know that Joe Wax is gay yet in that. Sorry, it's true. That's true. I mean, I did.
Starting point is 00:31:49 During that interview, there are red flags. That's all I'm saying. Well, yeah, sure. But I'm just... You don't know if it's sort of a scorned ex-lover or if it's somebody who's, like, working for the opposition who's going to like... Or Travis Bickle. Or Travis Bickle. Yeah, exactly right.
Starting point is 00:32:03 But I think even the way they shoot it, it feels very similar. Again, I didn't AB it. But it feels like they come into that whole world in a very, very similar way. Yeah, totally. You know what I mean? Totally. And, yeah, I mean, I expect Albert Brooks to walk around the corner with an afro and get me a coffee. You know, it's very much.
Starting point is 00:32:20 I feel like that's what we're doing there. Yeah. But slipping away, Clarence Carter is what's playing, which is, I guess it's on the nose because she's leaving the world from Gary Valentine to go into this other world. Yes. She's slipping away. but that doesn't mean that's what the song's about. Right. The song is about slipping away and having sex with some girl or guy you're not supposed
Starting point is 00:32:41 to be having sex with. Right. Which is kind of where the, I know, it's where the story's kind of going. Yeah, because I think she then kind of thinks that maybe she has a shot with Joel. I don't think she knows that Joe Lax is gay. She thinks she has a shot with him. She's about to make a play for him. She almost like to play for the other guy.
Starting point is 00:32:55 They almost fall into it. That's right. And she's all over the place. Clarence Carter is amazing. And this song's incredible. It is. And Clarence Carter wrote just, he just wrote horny hits, man. Slippaway, stroken, backdoor Santa.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Oh my God, backdoor Santa. I, I've stricken that from my Christmas playlist because I just, I can't expose the kids, the children to that. It's so filthy. No, you got, well, I have a time with my kids because they don't get the double entendre of it all yet. You know what I mean? I could probably play stroken and they wouldn't get it. You know, it's just, but it's just filthy. And it's just like, I mean, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:28 I mean, I don't know what he was up to. I don't want to project. But I love Clarence Carter. Clans, Caud, clans, Caud, Clans. It's so good. That's me and Zeth. Dr. Zeth Lundy in this film should be played loud.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Zeth Helms the Hollywoodland feed as well. He's in that feed three times a week with our archive episode, with our rap party episode, and with our screening room episode, give Hollywoodland a follow on Apple Podcasts, IHARP podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. All right, as promised, some good
Starting point is 00:34:01 Dolly Parton stories coming up in the exclusive section right now. Go to disgraceandpod.com to sign up if you're not. Back after this. All right, guys, we are back before I split. Just want to say, well, what do we mention in this episode? We mentioned Bob Dylan. We did not mention the go-go's. But the go-go's episode on Disgraceland is a nice bookend to the Alice Bag episode.
Starting point is 00:34:30 They take place during the exact same time and the exact same scene. Zeth wrote the Alice Bag episode. I wrote the Go-Go's episode and they're kind of talking to each other and the hillside stranglers involved in both. and you know, check it up. You can find that episode in our archive of almost 300 episodes on artists from every genre.
Starting point is 00:34:50 Matt's going to put the episode information for the GoGo story and the Bob Dylan story in the show notes of this bonus episode to make it easier for you to find. Let's recap, shall we this week? Number one, our new episode on Alice Bagg, available for you right now.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Number two in the rewind slot this weekend, our classic episode, instantly classic episode, on Dolly Parton, our IP. Number three, coming up next week, a preview of all the awesomeness we have coming your way for the next season, the end of the year. Get in there with us. Number four, is that going to give you those Hollywood and crime vibes in the Hollywoodland feed? So make sure you are subscribed. I'm going to give you my music wrecks too over in the rap party.
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Starting point is 00:35:56 this isn't just content. It's a community, a community of the obsessed, and no one cares about music, books, records, and the crime and grime that ties them all together like you do, and that's a disgrace. All right, back on November 23rd, 1977, Jane King's body was discovered, and this is what America was listening to on that day according to the Billboard charts. Number one, you light up my life, Debbie Boone.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Last week, one, peak position, one, weeks on chart, 13. Number two, don't it make my brown eyes blue? Crystal Gale, last week. Three, peak position, two, weeks on chart, 16. Number three, how deep is your love? Ligi's. Weeks on last week. Six.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Peak position. Three, weeks on churn. Ten. Number four. Number five. Baby, one of the position. Last week. Two, peak position.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Two. Weeks on chur. Nineteen. Number five. Baby, what a big surprise. Keep saying. Quit talking and start mixing. Cut it.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Welcome aboard season six of the girlfriends. Flight or fight, which takes place 30,000 feet in the sky. A beautiful woman smiles and hands you a scotch. But you have no idea just how messed up her job actually is. It was the most sexist job I think you could have. Until one day, a group of stewardesses spark a revolution that reshapes America.
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