DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode: Addressing the Tila Tequila Rumor, Billy Corgan’s Shapeshifter, and a Glorious Rock ‘N’ Roll Jimmy Kimmel Performance.

Episode Date: August 13, 2026

I wanted to talk this week about Billy Corgan’s outrageous shapeshifting claim and how it relates to who he is as a musician, but the Internet had other plans. It was all about to go to sh*t until Low Cut Connie saved us all on national television.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the after party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, the little thing. we like to call the after party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of disgrace land to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. Our mission to uncover the truth,

to confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode, guys, we are discussing the tequila rumor regarding our new friend, Billy Corgan. And speaking of friends, we're getting into Friend of the Pod, Lowe Connie's performance on the Jimmy Kimmel show this week.

And we get into your emails, comments, DMs, and as always, a whole lot of rosy. This is the podcast for the meat. musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know that the best history is the history that gets buried. Disgraceland is where I tell the stories they didn't want told, the kind you'll end up telling someone else. All right, discos, let's get into it. All right, guys, in this week's Disgracent episode on Smashing Pumpkins, we get into Billy Corgan's claim that at one point, he was with a woman in bed, and he saw that woman shape shift into another being.

Now, I know this is insane. It's the type of ludicrous story that we really don't get into here, a disgrace. But we talk about it this week in the Billy Corgan, smashing pumpkins episode, because I'm interested in why Billy Corgan would publicly make a claim like this, as he did twice on the Howard Stern show. So I'm more interested in the reason why he would say something like this than I am interested in whether or not I think this actually happened. For the record, I do not believe that this happened.

I don't believe that shapeshifters exist. I believe in a lot of crazy shit, but shapeshifters, excuse me, are, it's not, I don't believe in them, okay? But there are plenty of people who do. And, you know, whatever, go ahead, believe, believe what you want to believe. And it turns out that people on the internet who do believe in shapeshifters, some of them also believe in a lot of wack-and-do conspiracy theories, conspiracy theories that are often centered around music industry celebrities and Hollywood types, media elites, who are caught up

in all kinds of evil doings. I'm talking specifically about what is known as the Ball theory, B-A-A-A-A-L. The theory of Ball is a super viral conspiracy theory entertained by, I don't want to say serious people, more like wannabe Alex Jones types. and I do, however, want to point out that regular people on the internet, some of them anyways, I guess who are bored, who are not very curious, perhaps gullible, or some combination of everything that I just mentioned. These folks, some of them do believe in this theory. I've seen it.

I read the comments, okay? And the theory of ball proponents believe, as the theory goes, that rock stars, Hollywood celebrities in media elites worship a false deity named Ball and that they make blood sacrifices in exchange for their fame. Blah, blah, blah. I get it. Okay. So in other words, Jeffrey Epstein wasn't just a petto. He worshipped Ball. Sean Diddy Combs wasn't just an abusive sex-free. He worshipped Ball. Chrissy Teigen is not just a shitty bully. She worships Ball. And Billy Corgan didn't just see a person shape shift into another being. He did so. while ceremonially worshiping ball.

Here's my problem with these theories, aside from the obvious. I guess this is my problem with the world that we live in right now. Can it be enough that Jeffrey Epstein is just a proven pedophile, or that Sean Diddy Combs is a convicted, abusive sex freak? Can it be enough that there are online receipts proving Chrissy Teigen's deplorable behavior? and that Billy Corgan, one of the biggest rock stars of the 90s, a figure still very much in the culture. Can it be enough that he claims he saw a human shape shift into another being?

I mean, that's pretty fucked up in and of itself, no? Why do we have to take it to this other place? I ask, because when we posted on Instagram this week, our preview of the Billy Corgan story, a bunch of people chimed in that Billy had already revealed that the person that he saw shape shift was reality TV star Tila tequila,

which Billy Corgan absolutely did not do. He has never claimed that Tila tequila is the woman that he claims he saw shape shift and do another being. Naturally,

when I saw these comments, I wanted to know what the fuck was else. Like, do we miss something? What's going on? on people are so certain he already revealed it was teal tequila it's teal tequila dumbass anyways uh you know so i go online i try to dig into this admittedly absurd claim and i get sucked into this fucking world of ball okay quick side note by the way the best most entertaining example of the ball theory in this occult

god's influence on celebrities is the anderson cooper photo where he's seated on his bed as a child with his mother, the heiress, Gloria Vanderbilt, in front of a piece of art on the wall, the conspiracy theorists claim depicts a ball blood ritual sacrifice. You can look this up. The ball theorists are onto something here, as crazy as it is, because the artwork in the photo is fucked up. Whatever it is, it is certainly too fucked up

to be hanging in a child's bedroom, but maybe Gloria Vanderbilt just had some weird taste in art or whatever. I'm not judging, okay? And I'm also not saying that Anderson Cooper is part of this whole fucking ball ritual blood sacrifice cult. Okay, back to Billy Corgan and Tequila. Billy Corgan never admitted the shapeshifter was Tequila, okay? File this under people.

They just hear a snippet of information online and they take it as truth. He already said it was Teela Tequila. No, he didn't. He did not say that. There is online discourse that does claim Teela Tequila, who once kind of sort of dated Billy Corgan, was the shapeshifter. But if you dig through the ball nonsense,

connected to this claim, you'll quickly find the source of this tequila claim that she was the shape shifter of Billy Corgins. You'll find the source that says that. And the source is, you ready for it? There is no source. There's a dude in a fucking Twitch gamer studio or whatever on the Rumble app with an unsourced letter from an anonymous Chicago musician who, I shit you not know someone who heard something from someone, who says, Billy Corgan told them the shapeshifter was tequila. It's fucking dumb. My brain, I'm dumber for even saying these words right now. I can't believe I'm talking about it. So why am I talking about it? Right. Well, I wanted to talk about, like I said, I wanted to talk about why Billy Corgan would make

this claim. That's interesting to me. I like Billy Corgan. Sure, he says a lot of provocative things, but he's thoughtful and he's a provocateur. And we need that in her culture. Safe, carefully spoken rock stars are boring rock stars. And we have enough of those. And I think Billy Corgan either thinks he saw a shapeshifter or he hallucinated and is convinced that he saw a shapeshifter. And yeah, it might even be Teela Tequila. I mean, it makes sense. She looks like a fucking lizard anyways. And her opinions are certainly subhuman. But Billy Corgan never claimed it was Tequila. He already said it was Teal Tequila. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. There's no proof anywhere that supports this. And this is just another example, much like the allegations against John Fruciante, her

And last week pertaining to River Phoenix, this is another example of that, where people just very online people, just accept things without proof, without sources. I wrote in my notes, I don't know why this bothers me so much, but I do know why it bothers me. Now, you can say this is dumb. This is stupid. I shouldn't even be breathing air into these theories, these conversations, shouldn't even be having them. But I do think it's important to talk about.

And the reason that this bothers me so much is because I believe in the truth. And when I say that, I'm talking about the truth in music history specifically. And lately, the more I look around the internet, particularly on YouTube or in the comment sections on our Instagram, you know. And this is the way Instagram works for a side note, right? Nowadays, Instagram, most of it doesn't go out to you guys, the followers who follow me on Instagram. When I post something, it goes to non-followers. And people just fucking jump in the comments and say dumb shit. And I know, dude, don't read the comments.

I'm discouraged because I feel like as a society, we are quickly losing our grip on the truth. We are quickly losing our grip on what's real, on what actually happened. And the internet more and more is filled with bullshit. YouTube is a perfect example. The music history videos on YouTube with these insanely sensationalized claims,

these fucking whack-a-do cheesy thumbnails and titles of the videos, very little of it is backed by actual research and actual truth. And some of these videos rack up gazillions of views. And this is why I care. Because sooner or later, the bullshit is going to outbalance the actual history. And sooner or later, when that happens, the AI overlords are not going to be able to discern between what actually happened versus what the most viral video on the internet says happened. And when that takes place, we're all fucked. Okay? I'm interested in the real music history

because real music history is already crazy enough. It's wild that Billy Corgan actually said he saw a fucking shapeshifter. That is crazy enough, people. The point of the show, the point of what I've been doing for the last few years is that what rock stars do, what rock stars say, okay, what actually happened in music history. These stories are crazy enough. They are endlessly compelling. We don't need to take everything to the nth degree and start inventing stories and conspiracies that did not take place.

Tila tequila and some ball occult sex sacrifice. I've spent this whole podcast so far talking about this bullshit and I haven't yet once mentioned the actual real bad shit crazy things that Tila Tic. Keleah has said, and I'm not going to, to prove my point, to prove that all this shitty, sensationalized storytelling is a drag on the truth. We should be talking about why Billy Corgan would associate himself with someone who once said Hitler was a, quote, man of compassion, but we're not. Again, we're talking about fucking ball, okay? Part of the reason I think Billy Corgan has said these things, has said this in particular,

is because, like I said earlier, he's a provocateur. But he's also a student of music history himself, and he understands that throughout music history, musicians have made outrageous claims. Like John Lennon in the UFO, like Ozzy Osbourne in the Leprecons. Okay? He gets this. He understands. And he knows that as a rock star, it's part of the gig in a lot of ways. Okay?

And it's what differentiates him. And like I said, he may actually believe he saw that. people do a lot of fucked up shit they take a lot of drugs and they see things fuck man I've seen things okay never seen a leprecon or a fucking shape shifter

but I've seen things I go what wait what the fuck was that differences I can't go on Howard Stern yet and talk about this stuff he can and he does and I'm glad he does but I want to know why he does that's the interesting part the motivation anyways

like I said he knows lots of rock stars have made claims like the Zeth and I are going to unpack a bunch more of them. In the exclusive section of this here after party bonus episode, go to disgracelandpod.com to sign up to get in on that conversation plus more exclusive content and ad free listening to disgracelampod.com. All right. Got carried away there. I got to calm down.

Hold on. Need some coffee. Coffee's like the last thing I need right now, but hold on. Teila, fuck it tequila. Kid to me. Anyways. Listen, this week, coming up in the feed, another story that the conspiracy theorists don't need any help with. It's the story of Debbie Harry and Blondie.

I made the mistake last week in the after party of mentioning that that was what was coming up in the rewind. I fucked up. Actually, I didn't fuck up. Someone else did. Not going to name names, Brett, the intern. But we ended up saying that Debbie Harry was coming when it wasn't. It was Woodstock. That was the last rewind episodes.

This week, we definitely have Blondy. and Debbie Harry coming up in the feed, in the rewind slot. And everything I said about it last week pertains to this week. Same stuff. People go crazy over this story because they think that Debbie Harry is making it up. She's an unreliable narrator, just like Billy Corgan. That's what they think, that she's making up this experience she had with none other than Ted Bundy. I believe Debbie Harry.

And it's not just because of just knee-jerk, just believing what she says because she's a rock star, she's a victim or whatever. it's it's because the facts actually when you look at them when you dig into history when you dig when you dig just like an inch deeper into uh you know the surface level of all this you will find that her depiction of what happened is actually backed by the facts and that's coming up in the blondie episode this week in the rewind slot then after that our new episode on the almond brothers yes finally it's here as requested our episode on the Almond Brothers. Now, I don't think the Alman Brothers liked being categorized as a Southern Rock band. But, I mean, you kind of, when you think Southern Rock, you just think, you think Almond brothers, you think Leonard Skinner, right? That's what you think.

But there's a whole other world of great rock and roll from the South. And I want to know from you guys, who is your favorite Southern Rock Band? Don't be afraid to call the Almond Brothers that. I doubt very much that any of them are going to hear this episode. Okay. Now, listen, this is a big category. It's not just the Alman Brothers and Leonard Skinner. Tom Petty's from Florida.

The Heartbreakers are from Florida. I mean, you can go even deeper. You can go like Barcais. Okay. You can, I don't know, big star. There's all kinds of southern, great, great, great, southern rock and roll. All right?

And I'm thinking more sort of the era of the Almond brothers and Leonard Skinner. 70s, 80s, Black Crows, for example. Great Southern Rock Band. Great, great, great. So get out of 617-906663636338. I want your take on the greatest Southern rock bands of all time. I want to talk about them next week in the after party. So hit me up. Leave me a voicemail, send me a text, email me,

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you get your podcasts. All right, guys, we are back. I'm in the phone booth. This is one across the hall. I'm hanging on the telephone. I want to do some voicemails. Want to do some text from you guys on all subjects relative to disgrace land. 617-90666-6-6-6-6-6-36-3-3. You want to get at me. You can also hit me up Discracelandpod at gmail.com. If you want to email me, and I'm in the Patreon chat. I'm on Patreon with Zeth and the rest of the crew, the rest of the discos. rest of the disgrace and community in there talking music, talking movies, talking whatever. Let's go to the 614. Hey, discos.

It's Juba Moon from the 614. Okay, love Courtney Love, can't help it. Gotta love her. She was just the trashiest bitch for the longest of times, and maybe she still is. that kind of lost track, I kind of was pretty obsessed with her. But when I bought a hole, I just bought whole because they were called whole. So had to have the album. And yeah, as far as chick bands back in that time, the best, other than L7.

But talking about underground New York City bands, unsane, I am the goddess. of the unsane, and that is all. All right, Judah, thank you for the call. There's a lot you get into here. Courtney Love, we were talking about Courtney Love last week, and there is a Courtney Love episode coming at some point. The drumbeat is getting louder and louder and louder. It's funny you mentioned L7 in New York City bands.

When I played Warped Horror in 97, it was with L7 and with Sick of It All, who I was talking about last week, and I remember they had a really cool camaraderie, both those bands backstage, and I just thought that was that was really interesting because you wouldn't normally associate those those two together. As for the unsane, I'm very aware of the unsane. I once stayed at a member of the unsane's loft in Brooklyn back in the 90s, way back in the day, back when going to Brooklyn wasn't really a thing you did. And also I saw Unsaine a number of times. The last time I saw

them downstairs at the Middle East, it was literally so, it was the loudest thing. I've literally the loudest show I'd ever been to, probably the loudest show I've ever been to in my life. I could feel the inside of my stomach rattling and I actually got nauseous and had to leave from the volume of the band. And I love Unsaine, great group. Yeah, I don't know what goddess of the Unsane means, Juba, but I'm interested. Let me know. Hit me back. 617-9066-66-3-8. This comes from the 615. Hey, I have a Facebook group that I'm starting out. It's called perspectives about how perspectives are revealed in music. In your Billy Corgan slash Smashing Pumpkin story had me hitting my steering wheel.

Yes, yes, yes. Pain can be expressed, ugly and sharp, or maybe with an orchestra and strings. Gave you guys a nod and links. Sorry, still a very small group. Well, that's okay, 615. We don't mind. Thanks for hitting us up. And thanks for spreading the disgrace and word.

And you're absolutely right about perspective. And yeah, you know, this whole Billy Corgan, Smashing Pumpkins episode, It's not just about him and the shapeshifter, although that's what the discourse has been. It's also very much about perspective and about pain. And I thank you for bringing that up. This one from the 639, Hey, Jake, I'm a fairly new listener from Canada,

and I'm about halfway through, and you were a wonderful storyteller. Thank you. And you have really opened my eyes on different music, and I'm also a crime junkie, and you wanted to know what people wanted played at their funeral. Well, mine is Bet Midler, wind beneath your wings, rockerola,

score one for bet midler listen bet midler one of those artists i came across and researching new york dolls back in the day and i didn't realize the extent uh of bet midler's sort of downtown cool pre bet middler as we know her now so i'm very interested in bet midler's backstory and her come up and it's something that i'm going to get into at some point i literally read the scene uh you know it was when when new york dolls were playing um was the mercer arts center and in like you know There was rumors that, like, Jimmy Hendricks was around. I don't know if that makes sense timeline-wise, and I didn't really put much credence in that, but there was specifically Bet Midler was there, which I just thought was, whoa, whoa,

bet Midler, really, at a New York doll show. That's pretty interesting. 401 writes, and, hey, Jake, Beck's from the 401. Just listen to your new Dolly Parton episode, learn some great new things and want to ask, do you have any recommendations for more information about murder ballots? I do, actually. There's a great book. It's behind me here.

Hold on one second. Got it. It's called Crime Song, True Crime Stories from Southern Murder Ballads by Richard H. Underwood. I highly recommend it. It's scholarly, but it's not too scholarly, if you know what I mean. It's not boring. It's fascinating. And in particular, I think we talk in the Dolly Parton episode in particular about Knoxville girl.

Yeah, we definitely do. And it really traces that song back to its roots over in Europe. to the song Oxford Girl, which became Knoxford Girl. It goes even deeper than that. It goes like 100 years or 200 years further into sort of the Gaelic tradition. If I'm saying that correctly. And it gets into a bunch of other songs in here as well. It's not just Knoxville Girl. I think every song is a chapter. Anyways, Crime Song by Richard H. Underwood. All right. Check that out. 646 writes, and, hey, Jake, I hope you and the family are doing well as a Knicks fan. I wanted to ask your opinion on the Jalen Brown trade to Philadelphia.

My opinion is this 646. See you later. I was a fan of Jalen Brown, the basketball player. Was not a fan of Jalen Brown, the basketball player behind the microphone and online. And it just seemed like he didn't really care about being a teammate or care about winning. I mean, he finished, they went out in horrible fashion in the playoffs. and his first comments on the mic are about how this was his favorite year. Whatever.

They had to split up him and Tatum. It was never going to work for a million different reasons. That's just one of them. And I don't think they're going to be that much better without him. But at least, I don't know, it'll be different. I don't know. You know, him with LeBron, though. That's funny.

I like it. Jamie from the 716, right, saying, Hey, I'm a little behind on episodes, but in a recent behind the scenes, you were talking about needing an angle for an episode on Fiona Apple. A lesser known fact about her is that she's an avid court watcher

and criminal justice reform advocate could be an interesting fresh take for the pot. I love that. Did not know that, 716, and I appreciate it. Thank you very much. All right, listen, I want to give you a little bit more on Billy Corgan. I didn't know this until we get into the research.

Now, you've been saying the smashing pumpkins wrong in your head for 30 years. No, the smashing pumpkins are not destroying pumpkins. Smashing isn't a verb here. It's British slang, like that party was smashing. It means fantastic, amazing, a total knockout. So the band's name isn't a violent image. The band's name is a compliment. They're not smashing pumpkins. They are smashing pumpkins, as in incredible ones. And this isn't fan theory either. Billy Corgan confirmed it himself years later telling this actual origin story. He said the word smashing was meant to convey something

fantastical and amazing. And then he paired it with pumpkins because it added that contrast, something dark and cool next to something goofy and playful. And that juxtaposition perfectly captures the band's sound. All right, discos, don't go anywhere. Keep yourself captured. We'll be back right after this with your emails and more. All right, guys, we're back, disgracehand pod at gmail.com. This one comes from Stanley Sturbook. Subject shapeshifters. Message. Jake, thank you for the caring in humane ways you treat people with difficult lives in your podcast. I think you are helping people think about meaningful ways of dealing with and stopping the cycles of abuse that we all want to escape. I had a shapeshifter experience with a coyote. We have too many rabbits where we live,

so I keep a live trap out for them all summer. I moved them to distant prairies, so fewer of them are starving to death in the winter. One morning, my wife woke me up early because there was a crying sound outside and it had to be the rabbit trap. When I stepped outside, I immediately saw the trap tipped over with a rabbit in it. And there was a deer standing next to it just staring at me. And while I was looking at the deer just 10 feet away from me, I saw it transform into a coyote. Of course, it was a coyote wanting to take advantage of the trapped rabbit. But why did it appear much larger and as a completely different animal when we first started our staring contest? after I saw it shrinked out and changed into a coyote, I said,

you don't need to eat that. And the coyote trotted off into the night. I took the rabbit to a new home on a restored prairie later that morning, and that's my shapeshifter experience. The strangest part that stays with me is that I never felt any fear, and it did not seem as though the coyote was afraid of me either. It was not a dream, but it was surreal. Stanley, I thank you for the message.

Appreciate it. I don't know what to say to that. it's truly mind-blowing and who am I to question what you saw that's the thing you know like i know it sounds ridiculous like you hear the billy corgan story and you just immediately go oh he's fucking with us you know what i mean like he's just and maybe he is and yeah i mentioned the whole provocateur thing earlier but i do reserve a little bit of leeway in my thinking here uh perhaps he thinks he actually saw that just like stanley here i'm not going to argue with I'm not going to argue with Billy Corgan.

I am going to argue with the nerds on the internet who just shut down any thinking and just make wild claims. Those are the fuckers I'm going to argue with. More Smashing Pumpkins, this one from Delbert Brown who writes, hey, I don't know if I can agree that pumpkins filled the vacuum left by Nirvana despite the notoriety of the band.

The vacuum sucked lots of other bands into our ears as well. I remember the first time someone asked me about Smashing Pumpkins and I said, yeah, we do it every Halloween. That's a band. Weirdly, I listen to more Patton-era Faith No More Head P.E. and Pantera.

A Siamese Dream is a great album, but the real vacuum is Billy Corgan. He sucks. The band has talent, but that doesn't excuse his behavior. I think his contemporaries were spot on. I saw them in 96 with garbage opening, and it was about his cookie cutter and boring of a concert I've ever attended. I love the Stern interview, though. Especially when Howard is more concerned with the otherworldly entity's junk size, even he couldn't take it seriously. Why even talk about something like that without putting a name on it?

You think retaliation will put less eyes on it? Let's be weird for the sake of putting yourself back in the public eye with a goofy claim because you are becoming irrelevant. Delbert, you got a lot to say here, man. And I might not agree with you, but it is of you that I know lots of you have. And that's why I read your email. And I love the passion behind it as well, Delbert. Right back to me anytime. This email comes from Eric Zerhyde who writes in, hey, guys, I'm a new listener.

And I loved your podcast episode with stuff they don't want you to know, which I've been listening. to for years, searching through your back catalog and realizing I'll never catch up. I was hoping to find something on metal core band as I lay dying. Now, I won't spoil the story for, I'm going to stop you right here, Eric, okay? Because we are literally in the process of putting this episode together right now. Okay? It's a coming your way. Appreciate the email. Guys, you want to email me about the subject we're discussing that week in the full episode of Disgraceland? You want to email me about anything else? Go for it. Disgracelandpod at gmail.com. You might hear yourself here on the after party. All right, I'm recording this on a Wednesday. That means the dirty wrecks are coming out today.

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Film Should Be Played Loud. And we're releasing for now a new one every month. uh that's available again for all access members disgracehandpod dot com to sign up also for all access members our bonus conversation on the wild shit claimed by rock stars over the years throughout music history that's coming up right now all right guys i'm back after this all right before we get into the recap here i just want to say last uh let's see the the tuesday night that just we just passed uh locke connie adam weiner that's his band adam's been on the show before they had a pretty significant thing take place. They performed live on the Jimmy Kimmel show in studio. It aired on Tuesday night and my oh my did Adam and the gang bring it. They were fucking great. And the thing that's so

cool about the performance is Adam was totally Adam. He just did his thing. He brought what he brings to the stage every night to live television. He didn't do some safe version of a song for television. He was out there on the piano stool on one foot, bent over, banging on the keys, jumps off, grabs the mic, goes right to the camera, gets right in the camera's face, starts saying just, it was perfect low-cut Connie. I'm so happy for my friend Adam. I'm so happy for the band. They deserve this.

They are quite literally the hardest working band in show business. Adam hasn't stopped since he started this band 10 or 10. so years ago or whenever it was. And I'm happy that they're receiving the recognition and these opportunities. It's not just good for Adam, who's a friend of the show and my personal friend. It's also great for rock and roll. They're the real deal. If you guys haven't heard Loka Connie, I implore you to go check them out. They're fantastic. They literally don't have a bad album. You can start with Barack Obama's favorite song, though, boozephelia. And I'm not even joking about that. Check that out. Google Loka Connie.

boozephelia on YouTube. You'll have a great time. And then you can check them out on Jimmy Kimmel as well. All right. Let's recap. Shall we? Number one, this week, our new episode on Smashing Pumpkins is available for you right now in the rewind slot this weekend. Our classic episode on Blondie next week, our new episode on the Almond Brothers comes your way. Zeth is giving you those Hollywood and crime vibes in Hollywood land. So make sure you are subscribed on Apple Podcasts or the IHart Radio Apple wherever you get your podcast. Number five, this film should be played loud. Our new video podcast on Do the Right Thing. That's available for you to do. check out, go to disgraceandpod.com to sign up to become an all access member and unlock exclusive

content just like this, along with ad-free listening of every disgrace land in Hollywoodland episode. Number 6-617-906-6-6-3-8. Your voice keeps us digging into the dark corners of music history, so keep calling, keep texting, keep sending us your answers to this week's question of the week or with whatever else you want to talk about. Number seven, don't forget discos. This isn't just content. It's a community, a community of the obsessed and no one cares about music books, records in the crime and grime. It ties them all together like you do. And well, that's a disgrace. All right, back on September 8th, 1994, the Smashing Pumpkins played at the VMAs. And this is what America was listening to on that day, according to the Billboard charts.

Number one, I'll make love to you, boys to men. Last week, one. Peak position, one. Weeks on chart, eight. Number two, stay. I missed you from Reality Bites. Lisa Loeb and nine stories. Last week, two, peak position, one. Weeks on Cher. Number three. Wild Knicks. John Mellinger. Last week. Three.

Peak position. Three. Weeks on Cher. Sixth. Number four. When can I see? Bigness. Last week.

One. Peak position. Four. Weeks on. Cher. Number five. Quit talking and start mixing. Steal a tequila, dumbass.