DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode: Bjork's Stalker, Lou Reed's Lyrics Explored, and a Succession Rewatch

Episode Date: March 30, 2023

Jake dives under the hood of the unique, new 2-part Lou Reed episode. He teases the over-the-top insanity of the Bjork stalker story, now available for your eyes to binge over on our YouTube channel, @disgracelandpod. And your calls texts and e-mails cover everything from great spring albums to Top 5 Movies and episode requests. Leave your own message for Jake to reply to at 617-906-6638 and come join the After Party.This episode is sponsored by Microdose Gummies. To learn more about microdosing THC, go to Microdose.com and use code DISGRACELAND to get free shipping and thirty percent off your first order.  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is exactly right. Double Elvis. Hey, discos, need a little more disgrace land in your life? Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the After Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode.

A little thing we like to call the after party. This is the show, after the show, the party, after the party. The bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. On this episode, we are talking about Lou Reed, Bjork, Succession, and of course, your voicemails, texts, DMs, and more, and as always, a whole lot of Rosie. All right, discos, let's get into it. Guys, welcome. What day is it? What month? I don't know. Right now, I'm going to be honest. I'm totally out of it. Speaking to you in a haze of jet lag, whisper room, wrinkles, and time, and fevered Lou Reed dreams of identity crisis.

But all of that said, I am so stoked to be here with you and to have you here with me in the after party. I mentioned Lou Reed because this here is unofficially Lou Reed Week in disgrace land. We released two very weird episodes on Lou Reed this past Tuesday. I say very weird because we never really done anything like this before. These episodes, admittedly, they stretched the word true in the phrase true crime. And that was, of course, intentional. Now, there's all kinds of real-life trouble that Lou Reed entangled himself in throughout his life and career, but in researching Lou, I was constantly running into two very interesting

facts that made me consider Lou Reed differently than any other subject that I'd written about before. Number one, the crimes featured in the songs of Lou Reed were more interesting to me than any of the quote-unquote crimes Lou Reed may have involved himself in personally. Velvet Underground songs like the gift, the murder mystery, Venus and Furs, heroin, and others, all feature fictional crimes that I found to be super compelling. And I thought to myself, well, hey, what if those were true? What if Lou had firsthand experience with those crimes?

Of course, he didn't, but that didn't stop me because of reason number two. Lou Reed constantly made shit up about his backstory. And he told this to journalists all the time. He told him that he graduated from Harvard, that his parents forced him to undergo electroshock therapy at a young age because he was gay, a claim that Lou's sister vehemently denies. And there's a whole bunch of other shit that Lou Reed told rock journalists that was not true, that frankly was pretty awesome.

I mean, go ahead, lie your face off to rock journalists. Keep them honest. That's how I look at it. Make yourself as compelling as fuck. Keep the myth going. So I thought, rather than tell the same type of story, artist grows up, bad shit happens to him. He's or she is awesome at making music. and then they do bad shit to other people

and they eventually find redemption and cue the disgrace slam theme song. I thought that instead of doing that, that maybe I could tell the story of Lou Reed or at least get to the character of who Lou Reed was through the crimes he detailed in his songs rather than crimes he committed.

And these songs were, of course, the ones I mentioned above and others. And I chose to do this all in a way that I thought was very Lou Reed. Lou Reed was a massive fan of the author's Raymond Schumann. Chandler and Hubert Selby Jr. And I try to fuse the story of all the vice and grime of Selby that was certainly part of

the environment, the real environment that Lou Reed and the Velvet Underground came up in and that they inhabited in the mid to late 1960s in New York. I try to fuse that Selby-esque vice with the style of author Raymond Chandler, a writer that Lou Reed adored and who very much inspired the incredible lyrical style that Lou had. If you listen to these two episodes that I did, you're going to hear that I'm basically copying Raymond Chandler's style 100%. I even created my own Philip Marlow type protagonist to get into the story of Lou Reed in his early days in the Velvet Underground. It's told in a way that brings, again, it brings to life the crimes and actions that are in these Velvet Underground songs. You've got Venus and Furs coming to life.

You've got the same thing going on with the song Heroin, the song Waiting for My Man, and of course the murder mystery. And then totally, these two episodes live within the lyrics of the song, the Velvet Underground song, The Gift. So, and all the characters from these songs, these incredible characters that Lou Reed mentions by name, who I always thought were just real kind of like New York characters, like beardless Harry and Sweet Jane. And, you know, all of these characters come into these episodes and they come to life. We brought them to life for you. trying to write using Lou Reed's very rich background that he created, trying to write that in the style of Raymond Chandler was super fun.

I felt like I was in a band that was covering a song, but instead of over three and a half minutes, over 10,000 words. So because of all this, these are quite honestly some of our weirdest fucking episodes, but definitely some of the most fun that we've had putting these stories together for you. And don't worry, Velvet Underground fans. We will have a more traditional Disgraceland episode on the Velvet Underground coming on the entire band, not just Lou Reed, that episode and their history.

It's going to be in the next season of Disgraceland. All right, that's all I got on Uncle Lou. Hit me up. Let me know what you thought of the episode so far. The reaction's been fantastic. Really appreciate the feedback on social media. I can see the numbers. People are listening to the episodes.

That's great. We totally appreciate it. You know where to hit me up. at this Graceland Pod or on the telephone at 617-90666638 back with more after this. All right, guys, beyond the questionable true crimes of Lou Reed this past week, we got into some seriously real true crime with Bjork over on our YouTube channel with the video that we released. The story is of Bjork's stalker and his obsession with her

and what he ultimately attempted to bring to fruition. It is beyond disturbing, and the visuals we were able to layer into this story and the video are creepy as fuck. Here is a little taste. After seeing Bjork's human behavior video on MTV, Ricardo Lopez had a whole new obsession, an obsession. It would turn deadly. I have such an attachment to her. You're not going to kill somebody who's love? He hollowed out a book and inserted a homemade device that would spray out sulfuric acid when it was opened.

When Bjork opened the rigged book in her mail, the acid would hit her directly in the face. And it might not kill her, but it would hideously disfigure her. All right, guys, don't sleep on this Bjork episode. It's the perfect marriage, if I do say so myself, of music and true crime. And it's definitely the best video that we've done yet over on our YouTube channel, as we continue to find a way to building an awesome YouTube channel for you guys. So head over to YouTube.com slash at Disgraceland Pod to watch it and make sure you subscribe. We got new content coming to every single day.

Every single day. Where else are you going to get that? All right. Some housekeeping. The onslaught of previously exclusive disgrace land content continues. We are pummeling you. Pummeling you with hits like Tom Petty did. That's what I like to say.

As we do our best to get our entire back catalog of archived episodes, out into all the podcast platforms. So since we last spoke, we released episodes on Eminem, Whitney Houston, ASAP, Rocky, the Rolling Stones at Altamont. It's one of my favorites. And in the next coming days,

we are re-releasing our two-part episode on the Beach Boys. So, as is the new norm, lots of disgrace land content coming for you guys to binge. And that ain't changing anytime soon. All right. This is the part of this. bonus episode, these bonus episodes

that I like the best, this is where we get to hear from y'all. You know the drill, you can contact me 24-7 on the socials at Disgraceland Pod, or you can call me or text me at 617906-66-6638 and leave a voicemail like Steve, Steve, right here from Dallas, the Big D.

Hey, date, this is Steve from Dallas, and I was going to play some of the music, but then I realized, if I did that, you wouldn't be able to play my message. So I don't know if you've done one before, but I would love to hear a Joy Division episode. If you have already, please just let me know

so I can go back and find what episode it is because I would love, love, love to hear a Joy Division episode. Also, I have a Vinnie and Dime story that I'll call back with at some other time. I have to write it all down first, though. Much love from Dallas. Bye. All right, Steve, yes, yes, yes, yes, Joy Division.

We have it in the canon as part of the next season of Disgraceland. So it will be released for you, Steve, down in Dallas this spring slash summer sometime very soon. I don't have the date. We haven't officially announced what the next episodes are going to be, but we're close. We're very close to that announcement. We're very close to these new episodes. They are coming soon. Disgraceland is always on.

It's never off. It's never stopping. And Joy Division is part. part of your very near future. I will have specific soon when we do a full lineup announcement. And yes, Steve, call us back, leave a voicemail with your Vinnie and Dime story. Thank you and thanks for listening. Okay, we got, who do we get here?

Anthony from the 206 by way of the 253 checked in. Big Jake, what's going on? This is Anthony from the 206 by way of the 253. Been loving disgrace land really, really became a fan of it during the 2020. lockdown. I just binge any and everything I could. I even moved over to Amazon music just to get the exclusive content, and I still have it even though everything's back on regular podcast now.

I just wanted to say that the albums I've been listening to in the springtime, these are classics from when I was in high school. One of them is Usher's Confessions, and then more recently is the weekends after hours, because that technically came out in the springtime of 2020. Hey, I got a suggestion. 27 Club, like I said, I'm from the 206. You got to do one on my guy, Kurt Cobain. Please, please, please.

I know you did one on Kirk Cobain and disgrace land, but I need more of like a deep dive of him for the 27 Club. So if you could do that, that will be awesome. You know what, speaking of the weekend, you think maybe some point down the line we might be able to get a weekend, and disgraceful end episode as well. I'm just saying, you know, exploring some of the deep depths of his music and stuff like that. So anyway, much love from the 206.

Look forward to the next episode. Can't wait. Also can't wait for Badlands and all the other projects you release and peace my brother. Anthony, my man. Thanks for the voicemail, dude. I appreciate your loyal listenership over the years. And I appreciate you coming back to us with your springtime listening recommendations based on our conversation in the afterpart.

party last week. I'm stoked to dig into that Usher album. Thank you. Thanks for recommending it. As for Kurt Cobain in the 27 Club, I have been toying with this idea for a long time. You know, Kurt is kind of the, he's the big story in the 27 Club, I think, anyways. I've done Pigpen from The Grateful Dead, I've done Janice Joplin, I've done Jim Morrison. Is that it? I think that's it. Jimmy Hendricks. Oh, yeah, Jimmy was the first one. Kurt, I'm going to do it. I got another one done, though. Another whole season done.

I'm not saying who the artist is yet, but it's coming soon. I don't know where it's coming. I don't know where you're going to have to be to listen to it. I might do something unique with this. But that's coming soon, and Kurt is definitely on the horizon.

It's a perfect format for the Kurt Cobain story. We've got the brain trust here at Double Elvis on it. That's all I'm going to say, Anthony. Thanks for checking in, man. Talk to you soon. All right, let's do one more voice mail. We're going to check in here with the 702.

Hey, Jake. I just want to start out by saying, disgrace land, far and beyond measure is my personal favorite of all of the podcast. I mean, Joe Rogan, just in second, I'll just be honest with you, man.

The thing that you've captured is something that a large section of the United States and beyond has wanted and needed, and you're nailing it, my friend. I don't ever stop, man. Just don't ever stop. It is a highlight when my feed says, hey, new 27 club, new disgrace land. It's just, and, you know, Hollywood land as well.

And it's just like, oh, oh, Jay's going to talk. It's going to be awesome. Dude, thank you so much for the kind words. I appreciate it. You mentioned that I'm doing something for the country, for the United States. I don't know about that, but I appreciate it. And I'll accept that with kindness, and I will offer up in all humility a couple of podcasts that I think are actually doing something for the country, something that the country really needs right now, which is balance and objectivity and truth. And those podcasts are the Breaking Points podcast with Sagar and Crystal and Barry Weiss's podcast, honestly, from the free press.

Check those out. Both are great. Check them out. If you haven't already, let me know what you think or do. Don't. I don't care. I just did my part for America. You're welcome. And of course, only listen to those podcasts after you listen to Disgraceland and Badlands. All right. Let's do some texts. All right, damn, lots of text messages. Let's go with, let's see, from the 716, five, top movies, top five movies, Pulp Fiction, Fight Club, Natural Born Killers, the way we were. Goodfellas, Boogie Nights, Tide. Is that five? That's one, two, three, four, five, six. He broke the rules, dude. or do that um but let's go through these real quick pulp fiction definitely and he's got it in the one slot and i i get that pulp fiction nothing before or after has ever ever ever ever ever happened in filmmaking like the release of that movie if you weren't alive for it you missed it and a quick story uh i may have told this before but i'm just reminded of it now pulp fiction came out i of course

had seen reservoir dogs i knew of reservoir dogs i was at CMJ in New York City, which is a music conference, if you're not aware of what that is, college music journal conference. This was back in whenever Pulp Fiction was released 94. So before it was released wide, they had a running of it for CMJ that they were showing. And maybe it was already out in New York.

I don't know, but it was a big thing, part of the CMJ festival. So I go to this theater in Union Square or I don't remember where it was. I'm in there, and I'm watching the movie. My mind's blown. Everyone, it's like a huge theater. like 500 people, a lot of, a lot of people. And as soon as it ends, like, as the credits kick in,

with that freaking, that incredible Dick Dale riff that comes in loud, a voice cuts in over the music and it says, ladies and gentlemen, if you would please remain seated, Quentin Tarantino would like to come out and have a word with you. And just then, I shit you not. Quentin Tarantino walks by me, right past me down the aisle. I was on an aisle seat.

Goes up to the front and starts answering our questions. Unreal. Unreal. I'll never forget that. Blue my mind. I've had a lot of great experiences in my life, you know, when it comes to entertainment, that's at the top for sure.

Anyways, okay, Pulp Fiction. He's got number one, Fight Club, natural born killers slash the way we were. I've never seen the way we were. Goodfellas slash Boogie Knights tied. You can't. Yeah, Boogie Knights is in his country. good he's good fellas oh this is from Nicole from buffalo i'm sorry Nicole i called you dude um i didn't

see your name here uh fight club my wife has been on me to see this and we actually watched it uh this past was it past week couple days ago wasn't wasn't too far in the rearview mirror i didn't love it i like it a lot there's a lot can you can you love a lot about a movie but not love the movie that's how i feel about the movie um there's there's there's something about the way it looks that bums me out. It's this like heavily stylized movie thing that I feel like they made those scenes in the basement during fight club look great. And then they made the rest of the movie look like that. And it just bummed me out. It just distracted me. I know that's, I'm picking nits. But yeah, I don't know. Okay, I saw a list here, Nicole. Appreciate it. Let's see what we got here. What else we got? What else we got?

All right. Top five movies. This guy's just got Hot Tub Time Machine, Rick from Detroit. Hot Tub Time Machine. You know, dude, if you're the biggest Hot Tub Time Machine fan in the world and you're going with that as your number one movie, I got to give it to you, man. Go on with your bad self.

He also goes on to say here, this is Good Guy, Rick from Detroit. Have you ever watched Cobra Kai? Well, yes, I have. That is my lighthearted watch that is still producing new episodes and just rewatch the Kroll Show. I've watched that too for the early 2010. 10 sketch comedy cheese. Must watch for Big Mouth fans.

Yes, I would agree. Listen to a lot of Jeff Beck in Greater Crosby right now. Dude, listen into the dead guys. Rest in power. I'm sure they are. Thanks for all the amazing work. Just cried at my desk at work while finishing the dime bag Daryl episode.

Rock on. Good Guy Rick. Good guy, Rick. Thanks, man. Glad you liked that episode. Thanks for the recommendations. I have seen Cobra Kai. I thought it was awesome.

I've seen The Kroll Show. I just started watching a little bit of the new Nick Kroll show that he, the Monty Python remake that he did, the history of the world. I was into it. I watched the first episode. I'll watch more, but we'll get into that in the recommendation section.

All right, moving on, let's do some more text here. I've got to hurry up. I've got to bring my kid to fencing class. Let's go. Let's go. Here we go from the 365. Hey, Jake, this is Brandon from Ontario, Canada. First, let me say, great bloody show.

I've been binging it since it came back online from exclusivity. Hard to define a favorite since every episode is equally brilliant. Oh, thanks, man. Even if I don't like or care about a particular subject, I still listen to become just as invested as if I do. So, great job. I wanted to ask if you have any plans to do an episode on the day the music died or if you have already done one and I just missed the boat. Well, Brandon, I do have plans. This is one of those stories. Like, you know, the day the music died, for those of you don't know, is a reference to the day when the plane went down that was carrying Richie Valens, Buddy Holly, and the Big Bopper. And I was memorialized.

in that song the day the music died by oh fuck don mclean is that yeah uh anyhow i don't know how to tell this story it's been told so many times and i need a unique angle into it i know i say that a lot but it's the truth i don't want to just be giving you guys the behind the music version of this not that there's anything wrong with that i love behind the music of course but i got my thing to do and oftentimes it just takes a unique point of view to figure out how to tell these stories and i haven't figured that one out yet so from the three one six Hey, it's Jen from the 316. When the weather gets warm, I start blasting Jimmy Buffett out the car window, specifically boat drinks, but really anything off songs you know by her. Well, Jen, I appreciate the text. I have a deep burning hatred of Jimmy Buffett. And it's not for any good reason. And I think it's time I shed that hatred. I don't like hating things in general in life. I don't even like saying the word. I teach my kids to never say that word. And I know there's good Jimmy Buffett out there. I know there's good Jimmy Buffett out there. I know there. is. I don't know what it is, though. So I'm trying to approach Jimmy Buffett now in my sort of

middle age in the same way that I approached the Grateful Dead and how I'm approaching Steely Dan with an open mind. These are artists that I hated when I was a kid. I've crossed over the threshold with Steely Dan and the Grateful Dead. I, of course, think both artists are great. And I am open to receiving Jimmy Buffett as my cheeseburger and paradise savior in my, as I take on Middle age here. So, you know, if anyone's got any other Jimmy Buffett, I'll check out both drinks and I'll check off anything from songs you know by heart, Jen. Thank you. Any other Buffett heads out there. What do you call yourself? Parrotheads? Hit me up. Let me know where to start, particularly somewhere close to the beginning. I would appreciate that. All right. From the 828, this one looks promising.

I find that I agree with you, Jake, on about 90% of everything. Oh, here it comes. Here it comes. I was waiting for this and totally understand oh totally understand when you say that m&m isn't your bag and you can't really honestly say he made great music or makes great music whatever i have no problem with that i do however have a problem with you saying uh that cardy b made great music now again i'm not the biggest emm fan of the world but i could definitely say he made great music and i can 100% definitely say that cardi b did not yikes still love you bro low from the eight to eight um How do I address this? The Cardi B1, I hear you.

Here's the thing. Most of the artists I cover, objectively speaking, someone subjectively can think that they make great music. And this, of course, is about the device. And I can often find in any artist, some greatness, something positive, something truly great, even if I don't like that artist. And you know what about Eminem? here it is. I was wrong. The guy's a fucking beast.

I'm well aware of that. But on that day, when I was sitting there in my dingy studio at the time, writing that episode, I had zero fucks for Eminem. I don't know why. I just didn't.

I didn't grow up liking Eminem. I didn't get the whole thing. I thought it was silly. The whole comic book horror nature of it, I thought it was stupid. But when it comes down to pure skills and writing the occasional banger, the guy's a fucking.

beast and I'm a little bit scared of them if I'm being honest. But no, I'm not. But that's just the truth of it. And now I'm out, I'm out here on this fucking island like the guy who doesn't like M&M when the truth of the matter is, since I wrote that episode, I've fucking rocked out hard to some M&M. So there it is. There's the truth.

I was waiting for this. Cardi B, you know what? Not, of course. I'm not putting on Cardi B records, but there's great stuff there. Do you know, and I get the nature, the hot take nature of this, the comparing the artist back and forth. I totally get that. Um, but you can't say that Cardi B doesn't have any great music. You just can't. You can't say that. Um, just like I couldn't say Eminem didn't. You know what I mean? So in a way, you're making your own point. Uh, have I confused the issue enough. I don't know.

Let's go on way. I really got to get, I got to get rolling here. Let's do another text here. Brother Jake, I think it would be really cool. This is from the 206. Uh, if we got a blood on the tracks on Tupac, think about it. it deep dive into his life with uh interviews with cats such as shock g money b marlin wayne and notorious b ig puffy shook dray snoop orlando anderson great that's an awesome idea big tony i love that but uh i don't know when blood in the tracks is coming back man but maybe there's some long form tupac we can get into so many texts not enough time i appreciate it i'm going to hit these up uh later tonight and just respond in the actual in the actual text app to you guys thank

you. Let's see. Get at me. 617-906-66-66-3-8 with whatever's on your mind. We're going to take a break and we're going to, oh, you know what I got to talk about here for one second before we break, the DMs. I got a ton of great DMs this week with great content from you guys. Too many messages to properly go into right now, right here. I need some time to go through them and let them shine. I'm going to do that this week. I'm going to come back to you next week. I'm going to talk about a little tease of what I got sent to me this week. Someone sent this incredible comic book on Iggy Pop because we re-released that Iggy Pop episode. Someone else got a new Disgraceland Zombie Elvis tattoo that I want to talk about. That's incredible. That's incredible. That sounds to say.

And I got a banger of a mix from one of our listeners that was born out of the DNA of Disgraceland. And we're going to get into all that and more detail, proper detail, give the the proper shine next week, along with more of your voicemails and texts. Hit me up at disgrace land pot on the socials and on the horn, like I said, at 6179066638. All right back with your recommendations right after this. All right. It's the recommendations part. The recommendations part is the part where we do the recommendations.

This is the recommendations part. Maybe this is it. Maybe the recommendations part isn't a jingle, but maybe it's a dance. Do the recommendations part. Yeah? No? I don't know. This week, it is all about success.

I've watched all the episodes, and guess what? I'm watching them again, in anticipation of watching the season four premiere, part one, and then probably part two by the time I finished doing the whole re-listen. Part one hit this past weekend. Part two's coming up this weekend. You know why? You know why I'm re-watching Succession?

Because you can't make a tomlinet without breaking some Gregs. And is there a better show on TV than Succession right now? I don't know. Yellowstone? Maybe? Maybe? What's better discos? Yellowstone or Succession?

Hit me at Disgraceland Pot and let me. me know or call me 617-906-66-6-38. 617-906-66-36-38. So that's what I'm watching. I also watched, like I mentioned at the top there, up above, Fight Club. I also watched Top Gun Maverick for the third time. And there's a reason I've watched it for her third time. And the reason is that this movie is fucking awesome.

My wife watched it with me this time. She was way into it. But I'll like, well, what about the whole Scientology thing? to which I was like, well, you can't argue with the results. Tom Cruise is a fucking beast. Beast of an actor, beast of a filmmaker. Not that we needed any further proof of that, but this movie seals it. I am reading, well, not really reading it now because I read most of it when I was researching

the Lou Reed episodes, but the Lou Reed book of lyrics called I'll Be Your Mirror. This book is great. Lose words on the page. They are a different animal. See what I did there? This book is awesome. It's just awesome to have lying around to flip through it. every now and then and make a great gift for the Lou Reed fan in your life.

I'll be your mirror the Lou Reed book of lyrics. Some great insight in there from people like Martin Scorsese and others as well. All right, what I'm listening to, well, besides Lou Reed and breaking points and the honesty podcast that I mentioned before, honestly, I'm listening to a playlist of original music created for Disgraceland in our spin-off podcast, Blood on the Tracks, and trying to figure out what to do with it. This music's great. I love what we've done here.

It's like Lose words, lived on the page outside of the songs they were written for. I'm trying to determine what to do with the music that was written for these podcasts. I don't know, but I'll figure it out. All right, don't worry. I'm back in a flash. All right, guys, I got three minutes before I'm going to take off,

take my kid defencing, so let's do the recap thing. Lou Reed, episodes one and two are available in your feed now. Number two, the vicious true crime story involving Bjork is available on your YouTube page, so go check that out and be sure. to subscribe. Three, succession is the best show on television. Or is it?

I don't know. Hit me up and let me know. Number four, my moment is then is just around the corner. And here it is me reading the phone book in honor of Lou Reed from Manhattan in the year of our Lord 1960. And away we go.

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