DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode: Books They Don't Want You to Read and Books We Want Them to Write

Episode Date: April 17, 2025

This week in the After Party, Jake takes your calls on the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame and wonders why some celebrity autobiographies are so hard to find. Plus, Jake looks at which major music stars ha...ve not yet written their autobiographies and wonders if they ever will.Next week, we're bringing you a story on Chris Cornell, lead vocalist of Soundgarden and Audioslave. We want to know: Which artists followup bands were bigger or as impactful as their breakthrough bands? Tell Jake at 617-906-6638, disgracelandpod@gmail.com, or on socials @disgracelandpod. For more great Disgraceland episodes, dive into our extensive archive, including such episodes as:Episode 12 - James BrownEpisode 42 - MadonnaEpisode 15 - Motley CrueEpisode 23 - Rick James To hear an extended version of the After Party and unlock access to a monthly exclusive episode and ad free listening, become a Disgraceland All Access member at disgracelandpod.com/membership. This month's episode (coming next week!) will be on the Allman Brothers Band.Visit www.disgracelandpod.com/merch to see the latest Disgraceland merch!Sign up for our newsletter and get the inside dirt on events, merch and other awesomeness - GET THE NEWSLETTERFollow Jake and DISGRACELAND:InstagramYouTubeX (formerly Twitter)  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 This is exactly right. Double Elvis. Hey, Discos, need a little more disgrace land in your life? Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the After Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode.
Starting point is 00:00:44 A little thing we like to call the after party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party. The bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. On this bonus episode, we are talking about Mama Cass Elliott. We are previewing the coming episode on Chris Cornell, talking down and dirty rock star autobiographies, and we get into your voicemails, text, DMs, emails,
Starting point is 00:01:07 and as always, a whole lot of Rosie. All right, discos, let's get into it. In the MamaCast Elliott episodes at the top of your feed this week, there is one story in particular that really influenced my thinking about the story, about Cass, about Sharon Tate, Charles Manson, etc. And it's the story that actor Michael Cain tells about being at a party at Cass's house where both Sharon Tate and Charles Manson are present. I heard about this story in Tom O'Neill's book, Chaos. Tom cites it. And the reason this story is so important is because it blows a
Starting point is 00:02:00 major hole in Vincent Bouliosi's helter-skelter theory. Now, I'm not going to get into all of it here because that's what the Mama Cass Elliott episodes are for and the Sharon Tate once as well. Those are in Hollywood land feed, by the way. But I bring it up to get to another point. When I read this story in Tom O'Neill's chaos, the story of Sharon Tate and Charles Manson being at the same party that is depicted by Michael Kane. I had to see the original source material because the story was so bizarre and just no one had ever mentioned anything like this before. So I went looking for the book that O'Neill cites. It's called What's It All About by Michael Cain, which is an autobiography and largely details the actors
Starting point is 00:02:44 early days in Hollywood. Michael Cain has multiple memoirs and this is just one of them. This one is very well written, published by a real publishing house, et cetera. And Michael Cain is still, as you know, very much relevant. So you can imagine my surprise when I learned that this book is not only out of print, but it is extremely hard to get your hands on. So difficult that it started to seem to me that it was almost like they didn't want you to read it.
Starting point is 00:03:11 But I got the book anyway. I paid a pretty penny for it online. And there isn't much in the book that is risque or revealing or over the top or incriminating except for this story, the one about Charles Manson and Sharon Tate being at the same party. And the story's not even integral to the book.
Starting point is 00:03:28 It's a very small passage in one chapter. Beach Boy Dennis Wilson's book, The Real Beach Boy. Now I get why they don't want you to read this book. It's chock full of wild stories about Dennis and his time in the so-called golden penetrators with Terry Melcher and Greg Jacobson. If you want to hear more on this story, you can check out the Beach Boys' Discrace in episodes. But the point is these two books, each detailing portions of the real Charles Manson story, for whatever reason, they can't be obtained and read easily.
Starting point is 00:03:59 And one of these is an autobiography. And the other, it's not an autobiography, it's a biography, but it's not a work of fiction. Okay? Now, at the same time, right now, as I'm going through all this in my head, talking to you guys about it, I'm reading another book by an author named Manson. No, not Charles Manson, Marilynne Manson. I'm reading his or Brian Warner's autobiography. Brian Warner is, of course, the real name of Marilyn Manson.
Starting point is 00:04:27 And the Maryland Manson autobiography is called The Long, Hard Road Out of Hell. I'm reading this in preparation for a Maryland Manson episode that's coming your way in late May. Now, there's nothing in Michael Cain's autobiography or in the Dennis Wilson biography that on face value even approaches the shocking amount of material in Marilyn Manson's book. So my first question is, why? Why are the Michael Cain and Dennis Wilson books nearly impossible to get your hands on? And I think I answered that question. I think I answered it in the episodes on Cass Elliott.
Starting point is 00:05:01 But my second question is, what are the most shocking rock star autobiographies? Now, I went looking for a list, and I guess the real shock here is that there isn't really a list. So I thought, who better to make this list than us? Then, you know, you're truly here with your help. I've read my fair share of these books. So, you know, you guys have heard me talk about these artists.
Starting point is 00:05:24 So we're all in this sort of unique position to put this list together. I thought, well, lists are kind of boring unless they're totally outrageous, like the list of top grunge albums from a couple weeks back or that list of artists nominated for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame from last week. By the way, we should have a final list of inductees by next week's after party. We'll get into that. So my point is, I don't want to make this list, but I do want to tell you that the Maryland Manson autobiography is without a doubt the most damning book by a rock star that I've ever read. More damning than Motley Cruz of the Dirt. More damning. than Rick James' book, Glow.
Starting point is 00:06:00 I'm halfway through Manson's autobiography, and so far there isn't a shred of humility or even really humanity. It is pretty fucking dark. It is funny, though. So I guess there's some humanity in that. Somehow Marilynne Manson is funny. I think I knew that,
Starting point is 00:06:16 but I haven't really experienced it before. And Manson is a really good writer. He truly is. But like I said, Marilynne Manson, dark. Now, my final thinking on this subject, what major rock stars have yet to write their autobiographies? Now, this, this to me, is an interesting list. Madonna is at the top of this list. And you'd think that Madge would have written her story by now, but no.
Starting point is 00:06:42 And I think it's because she's working on her story for a film. And she's been doing this for the past few years, but I can't really say. All I can say is that I've read enough already about Madonna. I've heard enough as well about Madonna secondhand, some firsthand actually, on what Madonna got up to in the 1980s, in the 90s. And I'm just saying, if Madonna took an honest stab at telling her story, then I'm certain it would give Marilyn and Motley Crew a run for their money. The 90s were fucked up, man.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Dark, dark rock star shit went on in the 90s, and Madonna was at the height of her power during that decade. So there's Madonna, but who else is there, okay? There's Mick Jagger. Yes, there is, as of yet, no autobiography by Mr. Jerry Hall. Mick just got engaged, by the way, 82 years old, and his fiancé is only something like six years older than tattoo you. I'm not clever enough to have come up with that on my own. I stole that from rock journalist Stephen Hayden on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:07:40 That's not my joke. Mick Jagger not having an autobiography, though, that's not a joke either. This is more of a crime, okay? As music lovers, as music historians, we deserve a Mick Jagger autobiography. I find it curious that there's no Mick Jagger autobiography. Why not? I'll tell you why not. There's too many stories.
Starting point is 00:07:59 And unlike Keith Richards, I'm betting that Mick Jagger remembers most of what he's gone through in his life, and he's likely horrified by the prospect of having to piece it all into a narrative. And what would happen to him if he did? Mick made an attempt in the early 80s at an autobiography, but his publisher rejected it saying that it was too light on the sex and the drugs. I don't think we're ever getting a Mick Jagger autobiography, not in a post Me Too era.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Now, all the other books I've mentioned here were released pre-MeToo when Marilyn Manson and Motley Crew and Rick James and the like could get away with detailing their horrible treatment of women firsthand. I still cannot believe that they wrote these books. I couldn't believe it then.
Starting point is 00:08:44 I can't believe it now. Honestly, it's in part why I started disgrace to him. But Mick, he's, Mick Jagger, he's too smart, I think. He'd gain nothing by telling his story other than an ego boost, I suppose. But my guess is Mick is taking his stories to the grave.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Madonna, on the other hand, an autobiography by Madonna would be less shocking were it to be released, but I doubt we'd get the real shit. My guess is she'd cherry-pick certain stories for shock value, but wouldn't give us any of what really went down, which is her prerogative.
Starting point is 00:09:15 I wouldn't mind a Kanye autobiography, a real one, not some racist performance art piece, like his ex account currently serves as. I'd like an explanation as to what the fuck's been going on in his head the last five years, 10 years really. But I fear that the mentally ill, at least relative to Kanye, I don't think he has the ability for that kind of self-reflection. But, you know, I'd like Kanye's take on the entertainment industry.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Like a real take from his vantage point. It's never going to happen, though. All right. Maybe you'll get a Kanye episode of just Graceland, though, sometime in the near future to go with your Marilyn Manson episode. That's definitely happening. I do know coming up next in your feed, you're getting a couple Eagles episodes. Talk about stories. Rockstars don't want you to hear the Henley story in the book.
Starting point is 00:10:00 You'll never make love in this town again. I spent a pretty penny small fortune getting my hands on that book as well. And you will hear why when you listen to these two episodes that are coming up. So much debauchery, okay? Following those Eagles, rewind episodes that are hitting your feet tomorrow. Our next full episode on Tuesday is on Chris Cornell of Soundgarden and Audio slave, which brings us to next week's question of the week. When you're listening to
Starting point is 00:10:24 the Chris Cornell episode, I want you to be thinking about which musicians had a follow-up band that was better than their breakthrough band, okay? So what do you mean by that? Well, come on. Chris Cornell broke through with Soundgarden, but he followed it up with Audio Slave, and a lot of people think, and I'm not one of them, that audio slave is better than Soundgarden.
Starting point is 00:10:42 So there's a bunch of these examples out there. I'm not going to go through them now. We're going to go through them next week when you call me 617-90666-6-6-3-8 and leave me a voicemail and send me a text and let me know which artists follow-up bands were as impactful or better than their breakthrough bands. Okay? All right, I'm going to take a break. I'll be hanging on the telephone on the other side of this break with your voicemails, text, and DMs. All right, 617-90666-3-8. You know where I'm at. I'm in the phone booth. This is one across the hall. I'm hanging on the telephone. You want to send me a voicemail.
Starting point is 00:11:32 You want to send me a text? 617-9066-6-36-38. Let's check out. out some voicemails. This one comes from Justin in the 540. Jake, I just really needed to weigh in on this debacle that we're calling the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame sham, whatever you want to call it. But anyway, your list gave me an idea for my own list. So here's my seven, okay? And we'll go in order, one to seven. So first, one, you know, motorhead. Second would be fog hat, maybe blue oarsercult.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Third would be Humble Pie. Fourth would be Johnny Thunders and or the New York Dolls. Five, Billy Idol. Six, we'll go ahead and do Oasis. Now, seven, seven I'm going to go ahead and throw the misfits in there just because I want to because it's the way it is.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Justin, thank you for the call. Fantastic list, man. I don't know about Fog Hat. I mean, I can quibble with your list, but I think you're right on with Johnny Thunders and New York Dolls. Billy Idol and Oasis. I like how you're tipping your hat to the current nominees. I think that's smart.
Starting point is 00:12:53 I think this is a solid list. And you talk about the misfits later. I mean, yeah, you got to have, there needs to be room for more of that OG 70s, early 80s punk that went on to influence so many of the bands that are currently being nominated that are from later generations. 90s, et cetera. That's what I'm talking about. Love, love the take, Justin.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Thanks so much. We'll get into this more, guys. Next week I wanted to play Justin's voicemail because we're going to get into this more next week. I think next week, by the time we talk again, and if not next week, definitely the week after. We should have some clarity from the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame on who the seven nominees, excuse me, inductees for this year will be.
Starting point is 00:13:35 In the meantime, you want to voice your opinion on who those seven should be. 617-906-66-6638 voicemail and text. All right, let's check out this one from the 470. Hey, Jake, it's one of your biggest fans, Bernard. Mine is a two-part issue. One is, I can't find any of your batlands anywhere. Have you taken them off? I mean, I would love for you to repost them
Starting point is 00:14:00 and tell us where we can still listen to them because, you know, they're so wonderful. You know, even if you have to rebrand them, you know, disgrace land. I would love to still be able to access them. And number two, I think there are two stories that you really need to look into, do some research, and tell the world about. One is the great vocalist Roy Hamilton, how he is the genesis of Elvis's singing style, so much that everyone who does an impression, vocally of Elvis, is doing an impression of an impression. Two, The great, unbelievably unherited R&B singer, Little Willie John, his is the very first version and the best version of the sung fever.
Starting point is 00:14:51 And the story about how he died and about the stabbing, you know, that took place to that house, you know, that went on that that cost of his freedom. It is a fascinating story, and he is truly an unsung, you know, unheralded, you know, unheralded. you know, vocal talent, as is Roy Hamilton. I would love to see what you could do with those stories. Take care. Bernard, thank you. Thank you for the voicemail, Bernard. Bernard, do you have an excellent voice?
Starting point is 00:15:19 You ever thought about doing a podcast? First question, Hollywoodland. Sorry, you said Badlands. We're going to find the Badlands episodes. We've rebranded them Hollywoodland. That's likely why you're not finding them, Bernard. Just search Hollywoodland in any of your podcast players, and you'll find a new feed, a Hollywoodland feed.
Starting point is 00:15:34 And you can subscribe there. And we've got about 40 or so. episodes in there right now. And we're going to have more news on Hollywood land and what we're going to coming down the pike in a couple weeks. On your suggestions, really great ones. Roy Hamilton. I don't know much about Roy Hamilton. People have brought them up to me in the past. Appreciate your prompting here. It's going to make me do a little digging. I'll root around, see if I can find a crime angle, some sort of angle besides just see the Elvis influence. Little Willie John. Is that who I'm thinking of, that real, real high voice?
Starting point is 00:16:04 I didn't know about the stabbing. I love that this is a true crime. with Little Willie John. So perhaps that's something that we'll get into in the near future as well, Bernard. Thank you so much for the call. Appreciate 617-906-66-66-6-6-38 guys. You want to get in touch, voicemail and text. Oh my God. Look at this one. Okay, this one comes from, this text comes from the 302 who writes in, uh, bro, my local library has, what's it all about? I just put a hold on it. Okay, so what's it all about is the Michael Kane book we were just talking about. then I get another text. This is a couple hours later.
Starting point is 00:16:41 It's also on Audible, and you can buy it used from Amazon. Okay, cool, cool. Then I get another text, but an hour later. So the Audible books skip 1966 to 1973, conveniently. How fucked up is that? So the book is available through Audible, which I didn't know. I guess I wouldn't, I would never, I don't do any research with audio books.
Starting point is 00:17:06 I just do it all with hard copies or digital books. I need a book when I'm researching, not in my ears. So I did not look on Audible for the Michael Cain book. But how interesting is this, that it is available, but they've cut out the year 1969 when this meeting happens. Crazy. 302. Love this text.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Thank you. All right, 9-20 is writing in telling me they're an ancestor of John Wilkes' booth. What? No, Edward P. Dardy, who tracked John Wilkes Booth and brought his body back to Washington. You see, I don't know what that has to do with disgrace him. But hey, I'm in an interesting family lineage. So, yeah, thank you for the text 9-20. What else we got here? Mike from the 585 in Rochester. Mike from the 585 in Rochester. Talking about Rochester being featured again in the Billy Idol episode. What is it with musicians getting arrested there? That's right. Bowie and Iggy Pop were arrested.
Starting point is 00:18:06 in Rochester as well. And 585 is talking here about Joy Division and New Order. That one escapes me. 585, thank you for the text. 346 writes in, hello, I've been listening for years, but I needed to put my two cents in on the Rock and Roll Hall Fame nominees.
Starting point is 00:18:22 I'm a first generation Mexican-American, and I love mana and what they stand for. Their activism for humanitarian and environmental rights has been something I always responded to, and I vividly remember singing songs as a kid and later learning their true meaning. It's music I still playing and enjoy introducing to my kids. It's part of our history and culture. Love to get your take on some of their
Starting point is 00:18:43 classic albums from Houston. Susie, Susie, I'm going to check it out. And I meant no disrespect to mana. I hope I'm saying that correctly. But my only point was, as I made last week, I should know, I should have least heard of a band if they're being nominated into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. And I don't put that on. me. You can put it on me, but I don't put it on me. I put it on the band. That was my only point. Doesn't mean they're not good. Doesn't mean I'm not going to love them. Doesn't mean they're not, I don't know, worthy of massive fan base. I'm going to check them out. Appreciate you, Susie. Thank you. 617-9066638. You guys want to send me a voicemail or a text 812 writes in. I just started listening
Starting point is 00:19:28 to Disgraceland and I'm all in. You and your team rock my socks. We're all about rocking those socks. welcome thanks for hanging out call back voicemail you know texting is like the entry the gateway drug to disgrace land to the disgrace land community voicemail you're all in man 617 906666638 can also send us a DM at disgrace land pod on instagram x facebook cocoa over on instagram our good friend cocoa writes in in response to this post we made in our stories i did this interview with the creative independent, great little magazine up in the Northwest about process, about what I do to write and produce these shows, mainly the writing side of it. And I spoke about, you know, everything, really get into the granular nuts and bolts of it. And I spoke about getting up early. It's just
Starting point is 00:20:16 part of the routine. It's because I have to get the writing, the hardest part done early before the rest of the day kind of impedes upon my brain. And Cocoa writes in so relatable. I get up at 5am 2 and do all the important heavy work first. Nice to have some insight on your creative process. If you guys are interested like Coco in the creative process, just search out disgrace land, Jake Brennan, and the creative independent. It was a great interview in there that I did with my man, Jay Bennett. All right, we're going to do something new here in the after party. You guys can have yours truly, myself, me, me, myself and I, on your voicemail machine, okay? I can be the voice of your virtual answering machine. I will record a
Starting point is 00:20:57 message for you is what I'm saying, that you can play, you can have playing for whoever calls, you to leave you a message. Hey, this is Jake Brennan from Disgraceland and Deb isn't available to take your call right now because she's out doing something awesome. So leave your message at the tone or something like that. Here's how you can make this happen. You've got to find the Easter Egg. That's right. It's Easter this weekend and that means it's Easter egg time. And I don't just mean the literal kind. I mean the figurative kind and the figurative Easter eggs are in the most recent episode of Hollywoodland. Part two on Sharon Tate. Now, there's an Easter egg in that episode if you can find it and you can be the first to comment on our Instagram today or
Starting point is 00:21:34 first to call me or text me at 617-906-66-6638 with the right answer then you yes you mr or mrs disgrace land listener will like i said receive a recording of me for your voicemail message here's the easter egg question in the sharon tate part two episode of hollywood land who did Sharon Tate ask for advice from concerning her marital problems with Roman Polanski? Who did Sharon seek out for advice? Okay. That's the question. Call me 617-90666-6638 and leave me a voicemail. Send me a text with your answers or just be the first to comment the answer on the Instagram post when we pose this question. Again, the Easter Egg answer is in the Sharon Tate part two episode of Hollywoodland. And now for something totally different. Quick Sports
Starting point is 00:22:24 rant in under 30 seconds. Speaking of autobiographies earlier in this episode, the most fascinating man in the history of sports has a new autobiography out. Bill Belichick, coach of the New England Patriots, and I hear that there are no juicy tidbits to be had, just straight talk on leadership and winning. I'm sorry, I almost bored myself to sleep there. I don't want talk on leadership and winning. I already got that in the Habersham book on Bill Belichick, okay? I don't need another one of those books. All right? I want the dirt, man. I want to know why Bill Jeddison Brady out of New England. I want to know why Bill sat West Welker to start the 2010 AFC championship. I want to know what in the hell Malcolm Butler did to piss off
Starting point is 00:23:08 Bill Belichick before Super Bowl 52, okay? All right. That's enough sports. Back in the flash with your emails in the Hollywoodland Minute. All right, we are back and you know what time it is. It's time for the Hollywood Land Minute brought to you by the Hollywood Land podcast. Don't know what the Hollywood Land podcast is. Well, the Hollywood Land podcast is hosted by yours. truly where every week I tell you a story from the annex of Hollywood and true crime. And right now there are over 40 episodes waiting for you to binge episodes on James Dean, Army Hammer, Charlie Sheen, Danny Treo, Marilyn Monroe, Steve McQueen, Drew Barrymore, Jane Fonda, and most recently the very talented and very beautiful Sharon Tate.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Here's a clip. October 10, 1967, a hotel room in Rome, America's perfect movie star Sharon Tate watching television. More than a thousand miles away on a South Hampton, in the U.K., Sharon's friend Mama Cass Elliott was in handcuffs. Sharon watched it all go down on the black and white set, like the rest of America, watching on their own TV sets back home. Sharon was in shock. Cass was being charged with stealing towels and soap from a London hotel,
Starting point is 00:24:29 held over from the last time she was in London. How embarrassing. Sharon could relate. She herself had recently been arrested for something even more ridiculous than pilfering toiletries. busted on a train in Italy for the offense of wearing a short dress that was a little too short. Someone should tell the Italian cops that the societal norms were shifting. 13 million women in the world on the pill, sex and the single girls selling millions,
Starting point is 00:24:57 even if its author couldn't say the word sex on television. And if you weren't prepared for all that, Grandpa, then buckle up for Valley of the Dolls, which hit the cinemas that December. It was the 60s. People could go where they wanted to go, do what they wanted to do, unless, of course, they were Mama Cass. Something about Cass's bus just didn't sit right with Sharon. Her arrest in 1967 was, for a minute anyway,
Starting point is 00:25:23 all anyone back home in the States could talk about, even more than Sharon's skimpy outfits in Valley of the Dolls. It would remain one of America's most infamous bus from the world of pop-stardom until two years later in 1969, when another arrest for the murder of Cass Elliott's loyal and sympathetic friend would nearly eradicate Cass's seemingly innocent bus from the pop consciousness. All right, guys, make sure you are subscribed to Hollywoodland on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Next week, we have our episode on Robin Williams coming your way, and you're not going to want to miss that, all right? Discreasingmpod at gmail.com. You got anything you want to get off your chest? Send me an email. Christopher Easley writes in, short and sweet, the way I like it, Was Mama Cass doing freakoffs before Diddy? No, but there was some, I believe,
Starting point is 00:26:17 some really, really gruesome shit going on. And yeah, I'm reading this email in part because if you have not heard these episodes yet, what are you waiting for? Get in there, okay? You're not going to be disappointed. This one comes from Jim Greenhow, who writes in, hey, love your pods.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Jake, I think I came across your podcast while listening to Karina Longworth's podcast. I don't really remember, but I have been listening nonstop to both pods every day. Your pods make my day go so much faster. My favorite episode so far are James Dean, Dennis Hopper, Drew Barrymore,
Starting point is 00:26:53 etc., etc. To name a few, Sid Vicious. Goes on to say, I think a big part of what makes your pod so successful. And then he goes on to say very nice things about my voice. I want to get to this part of the email here. Jim goes on to say,
Starting point is 00:27:06 I do have one subject for you that I think you could do a real deep dive into. Arrow Flynn and his son, Sean Flynn. I don't think they've ever even found Sean Flynn's body in Vietnam or Cambodia. And then there's the rumors about Errol being either a spy or a Nazi sympathizer and the young girls, of course.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Well, take care, and I'll keep posting the links to your pods on my social media. I read this, Jim, because it's so on topic for today's bonus episode of After Party. Again, we've hit on all these books, the Errol Flynn autobiography, It's called My Life. It's something very basic like that.
Starting point is 00:27:41 I have, I think I have a first edition of that. I have a really, really old copy that was very hard to get. And one of those things that's out of print, and it's out of print for a reason, the stuff in that book is fucking crazy. And one, I didn't know anything about his son either. This is, or the Nazi sympathizing spy stuff. This sounds fantastic.
Starting point is 00:28:05 I'm pumped. And to be honest, I haven't even read Arrow Flynn's autobiography yet. I've skimmed it. It's the type of thing you can just pick up and get pulled into really any page and just your jaw will be on the floor. We got into the Arrow Flynn Bundy Boys story
Starting point is 00:28:21 in the Drew Barrymore episode because her grandfather was involved in it. That's in the Hollywoodland episode. Just this story is fucking nuts. And we also got into it more explicitly in the Maryland Monroe episodes because Maryland was present during this event
Starting point is 00:28:42 or during the telling of this event. Yeah, one of Errol Flynn's many sort of like party tricks. Anyhow, Errol's influence so notorious, Jim, that he's popped up in those two episodes, but have not yet done one on him for Hollywoodland, but I will, I'm telling you right now. Oh man, it's kind of dreary here and I just had this image of me like curled
Starting point is 00:29:05 up in my comfy chair over here with that Earl Flynn book for the rest of the afternoon, just reading it away. That ain't going to happen, though. I got to finish this episode. We get some reviews to check out right here. You know why we do the reviews, because the reviews help the show grow. You guys help me out with the reviews on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. If I read it here, you guys get in touch and I get you some merch. That's how it works. And again, I don't just do this to be self-congratulatory, although I don't care how shameless this is. This is what helps the show grow. It is one of the number one engines for driving discovery is activity on the apps surrounding
Starting point is 00:29:40 the podcast. So if you leave a review, you give it a rating on Apple Podcasts, you give disgrace land, Hollywoodland, a little review, little love goes a real long way and it's easy and it's cheap and it's a way for you to support the show and I'm super, super appreciative of it. This review on Apple Podcasts comes from podcast fan queen who writes, Hey, my new binge. someone asked me if I'd listen to the Maryland episodes. Oh, there we go, Marilyn Monroe,
Starting point is 00:30:05 of this podcast. So of course, I ran to listen because she's my personal icon. And now I am hooked, all caps. It's like talking with my friend. We are obviously the same generation. So everything Jake says is like, yes, I love the narration, I love the commentary, I love the Melotron.
Starting point is 00:30:21 I'm just obsessed. I'm telling everyone I know to listen. I'm binging every episode. Great podcast, great host, great subjects, just super awesome. Podcast fan queen, you sound super awesome. and I appreciate you. Get in touch.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Over on Apple podcast, Lady Celeste underscore KTF writes, wow, I've been listening for a month or so now and I like the podcast, but after hearing this two-part episode on MamaCast, I can officially say,
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Starting point is 00:32:38 recap. Number one, my other podcast, Hollywoodland is alive and kicking over in the Hollywoodland feeds. So make sure you're a... subscribed and following Hollywoodland on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcast. And get ready for a Hollywoodland, Robin Williams episode coming on Monday. My, that noise you just heard is my son coming in and then leaving. Number two, right now, in your disgrace land feed. Our two-part episode on MamaCast, Elliot, number three, coming tomorrow. Our rewind episodes on the Eagles.
Starting point is 00:33:04 And next week, Chris Cornell, so make sure you're subscribed to disgrace land. Number four, merch winners, get in touch. You know who you are. Number five, remember no one cares about. preserving the true spirit of rock and roll more than you do. And well, that is a disgrace. All right. In honor of this week's subject, Sharon Tate, this is me reading you, the billboard charts from the infamous day Miss Tate was taken from us August 8th, 1969. Number one, in the year 25, 25, Zagar and Evans last week, one, peak position, one, weeks on chart,
Starting point is 00:33:40 8. Number 2. Crystal Blue Persuasion. Tommy James and the Chondels. Last week, two. Peak position, two. Weeks on chart. 10. Number three, honky talk women, the Rolling Stones. Last week, eight. Peak position, three. Weeks on churns. Four. Number four, what does it take to win your love? Junior Walker and the All-Stars. Last week, five. Peak position. Four, Weeks on Church. Team. Number five, Sweet Caroline. And start mixing.
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