DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode: Can a Heavy Metal Band Be The Most Successful Band of All Time?

Episode Date: August 8, 2024

This week in the After Party, Jake looks at Metallica's rise from the vanguard of a niche sub-genre of Heavy Metal to become one of the most successful bands of all time. And in preparation for next week's episode on Brittany Murphy, we want to know: Which celebrity deaths seem suspicious to you? Which explanations of celebrity death just don't hold water with you? Join the party at 617-906-6638, [e-mail], or on socials @disgracelandpod.To cop some new merch, head to disgracelandpod.com/merch now!To hear an extended version of the After Party and more from the DISGRACELAND community, become a Disgraceland All Access member at disgracelandpod.com/membership.Sign up for our newsletter and get the inside dirt on events, merch and other awesomeness - GET THE NEWSLETTERFollow Jake and DISGRACELAND:InstagramYouTubeX (formerly Twitter) Facebook Fan GroupTikTok To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Your body is not what you thought it was. Your identity is formed by a secret history. I'm Danny Shapiro, and these are just a few of the stunning stories I'll be exploring on the 14th season of Family Secrets. He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move. And he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off. And that was the last time I saw him.

Listen to Season 14 of Family Secrets, starting May 7th on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, Discos, need a little more disgrace land in your life? Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the After Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, a little thing we'd like to call the after party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of disgrace land to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt.

On this bonus episode, we are talking about Metallica and the highest selling artists of all time. We begin our double down into suspicious celebrity deaths. And of course, your voicemails, texts, and more. And as always, a whole lot of rosy. All right, discos, let's get into it. Metallica is the most successful heavy metal band of all time. But when all is said and done, they might end up being the most successful band of all time, which is very hard to appreciate if you're of a certain age like I am.

Metallica are, of course, as mainstream as mainstream can be. They pack stadiums. They are celebrated by fans from multiple generations. Parents, of course, bring their kids to the shows. Teenagers nowadays willingly rock the Metallica logo on their t-shirts and backpacks, just like they did back in the 80s and the 90s. Metallica was prominently featured a couple years back on Stranger Things, one of the busiest zeitgeisty TV shows of the past couple of decades. Metallica are a mainstream institution, not just in America, but all over the world.

On the list of the top 20 best-selling heavy metal albums of all time, as compiled by the This Day in Metal blog, which cites the RIA data, the Recording Industry Association of America, that list, again, of the top 20 best-selling heavy metal albums of all time, there are seven Metallica albums, and five of the top six positions on that list are occupied by Metallica albums. it's a fascinating list for metal and non-metal heads alike. And I want to get into it just a little bit here to set up the point I'm trying to make. So in reverse order, the list, number 20, slip-knots, self-titled album, which I got to admit, I'm not a big Slipknot fan. I never was. So this came as kind of a surprise to me. And then Pantera's Vulgar Display of Power, which is at 19.

This seems low to me. I thought this record was a huge seller. I would have thought Vulgar Display of Power would have been Pantera's best-selling. album more on that in a bit black sabbath's master of reality is number 18 also kind of a surprise but then again it's hard for me to properly place sabbath on any commercial list given how despise they were by critics during the 70s so the context is very weird with this band for me uh despite their influence and just how fucking amazing 1970s osie osborne era black sabbath is number 17 is deep purple's machine head which I totally don't get, mainly because I never really got into Deep Purple.

I don't even really understand their significance in the heavy metal genre. I know people ride hard for them. I know they have significance. But again, it's sort of escaped me for whatever reason. That's my own thing. I'm not disin the band at all. It's my own ignorance. Number 16 is Judas Priest's screaming for vengeance.

This one seems like it's slotted in the right spot. Number 15 is Holy Diver by Dio. this seems way too high. I can't believe this album has sold more than the aforementioned efforts by by priest, by Sabbath, by Pantera, especially. Kind of a shocker here. Number 14 is Cowboys from Hell by Pantera. Now, also a surprise, mainly because I would have thought that vulgar display of power would have sold more than Cowboys from Hell. Nonetheless, this is a better record, and I'm happy to see that the market agrees with me here and that it's higher on the list. Number 13, mega shocker for me, Megadeth's countdown to

I totally underestimate Metallica's ex-band member Dave Mustang's Megadeth. This album went double platinum all the way back in 1994 after it had only been released for two years. It came out in 1992, the middle of 1992. So really just a year and a half, I think, before it went double platinum. It almost entered the chart at number one. Think of that. Megadeth. Entering the Billboard, not like the hard rock chart or the Met, I don't even think. there is a metal chart. Maybe there is, I don't know, but I don't think there was back then in the 90s. But just imagine, like, Megadeth's Countdown to Extinction, just any Megadeth album, entering at the number one slot, which it came so close to doing, but it was kept held down

at number two by Billy Ray Cyrus, who, of course, was huge back at the time. My mind is blown by this one. It's as baffling to me this Megadeth album selling so much as the next album on this list in the number 12 slot, which is tools, forgive me tool fans, if I pronounce this the wrong way, the name of the album is lateralis. That's how you say this, I'm sure, lateralis. Okay, come at me, tool fans. This is an album I've never even, I've never heard, okay, which is, which is awful to say, man, tool are a real band. I get that. But it went, this, this album's gone triple platinum. Okay, that didn't go, it didn't go triple platinum until uh 2021 but unlike megadus count down to extinction this tool album did debut at number one

i just do not get this um i mean tool is one of those bands that just seems like only dudes like i mean do women like tool if there are any women out there who like tool write to me please and tell me why you like tool i want to understand i mean i know why i like tool there's actual tool records that i like. And I know now I'm going to catch a lot of shit from some people because Tool is one of these bands that is incredibly divisive. Like people just think they're incredibly lame or they're way into them. I kind of straddle the fence. I guess I'm rare. I was into Tool when they came out. I saw them on purpose a couple times. But to me, they just seem to have such limited appeal, despite how good they may be. It's just incredible. I'm not shitting on Tool. Like I said,

I like Tool. I've seen them. But they're quirky. as fuck and it's hard for me to see or understand how they have sold so many records it makes me happy that they have so yeah score one for the weirdos this is good next up uh in the number 11 slot is metallic as reload uh then another tool album at 10 enema rob zombies hell billy deluxe at number nine uh in the in the list of top selling heavy metal albums tools undertow another triple platinum seller. Unbelievable tool. I had no idea. That's at number eight. And then from here on out, the list is pretty much owned by Metallica with one exception. At number seven is Killem All. And then a brief departure here from Metallica at number six, Black Sabbath's paranoid pops up.

But then it's straight Bay Area thrash from here on out five. Metallica's load, which is the one with the ridiculous record cover. I'm not suggesting, by the way, that these are Bay Thrash albums. I'm referring obviously to the Bay Area roots of Metallica. Number four, Master of Puppets, a great album cover, in contrast, of course, to Metallica's load. Number three, Ride the Lightning. Number two, and Justice for All. And number one, of course, is Metallica's self-titled album, also known as the Black album. So Metallica basically owns the top 20 list of highest-selling metal albums, which isn't surprising. They sold a total of 175 million albums, which is a shit ton of records.

But where does that put Metallica on the list of highest-selling musical artists of all time? And this is where it starts to get interesting for me. So with 175 million albums sold, Metallica doesn't even crack the top 10 list of best-selling artists of all time. The Beatles number one, Michael Jackson, number two, Elvis Presley, 3, Elton John, 4, Madonna 5,

Queen 6, Led Zeppelin 7, Rihanna at 8. Rihanna! Who had Rihanna at? eight. I had no fucking idea. Pink Floyd at nine, Rolling Stones at 10. Metallica's 175 million albums sold puts him somewhere between ACDC and Beyonce in the number 15 slot ahead of the Eagles, ahead of Garth Brooks and Britney Spears, but behind Taylor Swift, behind Whitney Houston, behind Mariah Carey, behind Eminem. Now, if you eliminate solo artists from our equation here, and you look at just the top selling bands, the top selling groups, okay,

Metallica's influence, their significance, I should say, in rock history, just in commercial music history, it becomes much more illuminating. The Beatles, of course, are the top selling band of all time. 600 million estimated albums sold. I don't even know how they come up with that number because, I mean, Beatles albums are, I mean, between the European versions, the American versions, the collections, I mean, there's so much. But again, just the number we got to go by,

we've got to go by the numbers here. 600 million is what is estimated to have been sold by the Beatles. No one's ever going to touch that. But they are followed by Queen. And the Queen slot on this list is questionable. I found a lot of lists that don't even have Queen in the top 10. And I think the reason the list that I'm going with here includes Queen. And I've seen others that include Queen as well is because Queen has had massive sales in the last few years.

years due to the biopic that came out with Robbie Malick. And I think also Queens is one of these classic rock bands that has really benefited from social media, has really benefited from music licensing in the last decade alone. So I think they have sort of inserted themselves into this conversation. But I'm sort of discounting them because it's not, it's not 100% solid. Led Zeppelin is third here, okay, of top selling bands. Beatles, Queen, Led Zeppelin. Okay, then Pink Floyd, then the Rolling Stones, and then Metallica.

Metallica are solidly on the top 10 list of highest selling bands of all time when it comes to record sales. And they're nearing the top five, which if you take Queen out, they're in the top five. But I'm not going to do that. Unbelievable to think of, okay, for Metallica, a band that was so niche when they started. You got to think, you know, when the Beatles start, when Queen starts, when Led Zeppelin starts, when Pink Floyd starts, when the Rolling Stones start, their ambitions, their aspirations are almost solely commercial, okay?

They are just gunning for the charts at the time, all right? Everything they were doing in terms of how they were being marketed and how they were being promoted was geared towards selling records in the same can. not be said for Metallica. Metallica were a niche band. They were a subgenre of a subgenre of a subgenre. Okay? In this week's full episode on Metallica,

we talk about how the band spoke almost exclusively to burnouts and wasteoids. Counterculture thrash metalheads like this band, okay? Like, again, a subgenre of a subgenre of a subgenre. They were thrash, which was a subgenre of heavy metal, which was the subgenre of hard rock, which was the subgenre of rock and roll. You know, when Metallica's first albums came out, they were on an indie label. They were not at all.

They weren't making videos. They weren't even thinking about FM airplay at the time. All right. No one, and I mean no one back in the 1980s, saw Metallica's world dominance coming. If they tell you now that they did, they're lying or their name is Nostradamus. And here's the reason why, because every single reason why Metallica did anything that remotely smacked the commercialism, their fans skewered them. Okay? But nonetheless, Metallica kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger. And to this day, they are still growing. The rule is that,

yeah, you get to make your move to sell out and it can work and you can grab new audience, but you're ultimately going to lose more than you gain in the end. Your new mainstream fans, they're eventually going to abandon you. And the original fans that you alienated for commercial success will never come back. But that's not what happened with Metallica. And that's because their quote-unquote sellout moves weren't actually sell-out moves at all. They were just a reflection of who the band was at the time. When the band dared to slow down parts of their songs on Ride the Lightning and Master Puppets to forego speed for groove, a part of their fan base claimed that they were selling

out when they made a video for their song won from that Injustice for All album, a massive record, right? A huge portion of their fan base at that time was horrified at their beloved thrash band's blatant commercialism. Metallica made a music video. And for a ballad nonetheless, all right? People were pissed. And then on the Black album, when they brought in Motley crew in Bon Jovi's producer, Bob Rock,

so many fans bailed and never came back. I was almost one of them. But Metallica never bailed. They kept doing exactly what they wanted to do. And slowly but surely, even after the explosive worldwide success of the Black album, in part directly because of Bob Rock's production and influence on the band's songwriting, Metallica grew and grew and grew and like I said, they're still growing 45 years into their career

with no signs of slowing down. They made a record with Lou fucking Reed that people hated. Almost everyone who heard it shit on this record, even people who haven't heard the record, still shit on the record. Look at the comment section of the Metallica post that has made on Instagram.

It's ridiculous, but it doesn't matter, okay? Metallica has persevered. They still sound great. They still look great. They're in their 60s, but they're healthy. The heavy metal hedonism is in their past. They seem hell-bent on continuing to move forward, like that insatiable great white shark of an institution

that they turned themselves into. If Metallica has sold out, Metallica has sold out in the best possible way by their own accord. So I guess it wasn't really selling out at all. The result was 175 million albums sold and counting. Led Zeppelin has sold 300 million albums. But you got to remember,

Led Zeppelin started selling albums 12 years before Metallica did, before all is said and done, might Metallica catch up to Led Zeppelin in sales? Might they catch up to Queen if that Queen number is even correct? I don't know. But if they don't stop and they keep doing what they've always done, if we wake up 20 years from now and Metallica is the rolling stones of our generation, they're still on stage, they're still selling out stadiums, which frankly I can see happening. I don't see them slowing down.

I think they got a chance. Maybe. I don't know. Who knows? $175 million, right? Who knows? They're still packing out stadiums, man, guys. This is nuts. It's crazy. And it's all because they've done whatever the hell they've wanted to do. And that spirit of doing whatever the hell they want is deeply ingrained in Metallica,

going all the way back. And of course, best represented by original bassist Cliff Burton, who is the focus of this week's full episode on Metallica, hope you check out if you have not already. Next week's episode of Disgraced Land is on actress Britney Murphy and her highly suspicious cause of death. And as you go into that episode and are listening to it and you start to hear about how Britney Murphy supposedly died, I want you guys to think about the deaths of other entertainers

that strike you as false that are suspicious. There are a lot. We talked about this, of course, with the Marilyn Monroe episodes. I'm doubling down on it here because the facts around Britney Murphy's death are just highly suspicious. I want to know what you guys think. They don't get as much play historically, of course, as Marilyn Monroe because Britney Murphy wasn't as big of an entertainer and never will be.

But I want to hear from you guys, which celebrity causes of death strike you as most suspicious? Which celebrity causes of death are you calling bullshit on? Call me at 617-906-6638 to let me know. Leave me a voicemail. Send me a text. Hit me up on the socials at Disgraceland Pod. And I will be back in a flash.

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I'm Danny Shapiro. And these are just a few of the ones. of the stunning stories I'll be exploring on the 14th season of Family Secrets. And just then, we felt the plain turn in the air, so much so that the bags that were under people's seats just kind of flew into the aisle. Each week, we dive head first into the complex power of secrecy, how it shapes our identities and relationships, and how it ultimately can reveal to us our truest selves. My daughter, she's pretending she doesn't know, but is trying to cook and feed me and keep me alive because I wasn't. eating anything and me pretending like everything was fine.

He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move. And he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off. And that was the last time I saw him. Listen to season 14 of Family Secrets, starting May 7th on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When, like, young people come up to me and they want to be an actor.

or whatever. My first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? Rather be disappointed in. Do that. Dennis Leary. I wake up and I'm hitting him in the head with a water bomb. And Bruce Jenner is on the aisle in a karate stance like he's about to attack me. Making karate noises. And his entire the Kardashian family over there, everybody's going,

and the air marshal is trying to grab my arms and screaming. And I immediately know that I've been at sleepwalk. David O'Yellowo. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Guy Branham. So anyway, Nicole Kidman broke up with Keith Thurban. Being half of a country couple was always a hat she was going to wear, not like a life she was going to lead. Oh, interesting.

I like that. Did you practice that on your way over? Gaten Moderato from Stranger Things. Tiana Mongeau. Camilla Morone, Carrie Kenny Silver, and more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the IHeart Radio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, with Cliff Burton's death at such a young age, being the focus of this week's Metallica episode, we asked the question, which modern artists can't you afford to lose and why? And what do they provide for you that makes them so indispensable? Here are some of your answers.

Hey, just listen to the Metallica episodes. And an artist that I just can't live without today is Jason Isbell. I don't know, it must have been about 10 years ago. I accidentally played the song Live Oak from his Southeastern album, and just by accident. After that, I went back and I listened to the entire album, then again on repeat over and over again. and after that I had a reason to listen to Americana and country music again. Then after that came the album Something More Than Free, and then the Nashville Sound, then Reunion, and now recently Weathervane.

And, you know, it just speaks to me. Having listened to Waylon and Willie and old school country for a long time with my dad, I think that's what it takes me back to, and I really appreciate that. So Jason Isbell's music really, uh, really speaks to me and thank you for the opportunity to talk about it. All right, 310. Thanks for the call. Jason Isbell seems like a good guy. I'm going to check out Live Oak on my drive today.

Incidentally, guys, I am still on the road for an extra week here that I did not plan for. My family and I took off about five weeks ago now. Two weeks of it was a working, I was working while we were away. and two weeks of it was a vacation. So I've been kind of quiet on the social. It's been kind of quiet in the chat. I've been popping in. This week I was supposed to be fully back in.

We're supposed to be home. But for those of you on the East Coast, you know there's this massive storm that hit the southeast. Our flights were totally canceled. And there were no flights at all that seemed reasonable, that seemed like they were actually going to happen. We ended up driving down. We've been driving for two days straight, trying to get home, trying to drive around this storm.

I'm in a hotel recording this episode right now. I am not in the booth, as you can probably hear some funky sounds in the background here. But yeah, looking forward to the final drive today, and I will check out Jason Isbell. Guys, I am so looking forward to being back in my studio and just, you know, back on the social. back in the chat, making all the content on a day-to-day basis, as I'm used to doing. It's been kind of sporadic, and I'm ready. I'm champing at the bit, as they say, and that's champing, not chomping. Okay, let's check out this voicemail from the 8-1-2.

Hey, Jake, it's Mike calling back again from the 8-1-2. In response to your question about which artists could I not bear the thought of living without, I immediately turned to Bruce Springsteen. His body of work is incredible and amazing. He has written music that is

filled so many parts of my life and meant so much to me in so many ways during so many different times. And yeah, I just could not bear the idea of a world without the boss.

Thanks for all that you create and we'll talk again rockerola mike i hear that uh i don't know what we do without springsteen either he he like metallica is an institution um funny we've never had a bruce springsteen metallica collaboration in any form um there's some pretty awesome footage i don't know if you guys have seen this in the internet it's this it's bruce playing i think he's in new jersey or manhattan i think it's manhattan uh or might be l a and And it's, there's footage shot from somebody's cell phone camera, back, side stage. And it's of all the celebrities watching Bruce play.

And you can see like maybe 12, 15 people there. And among them is Lars from Metallica, Chris Rock, Sting, I believe, a couple others. It's really fascinating. But I can see, I could see some sort of Bruce Springsteen-Matelica collaboration. There's also some interesting news that came out a couple years ago now, not too long ago. Might have even been less than a couple years that the Dylan, Bob Dylan, is a huge Metallica fan and that he's seen them multiple times, that he just sort of quietly goes to the shows himself. Fucking love that story, man.

Love it. But thanks for your text on, sorry, your voicemail mic on Bruce. You know, if I'm going to answer my own question here, and this is a hard. one to answer because if I'm being totally honest, there's not a lot of modern artists that are making music currently right now that speaks to me on such a heavy emotional level where I would just be kind of like just, just annihilated if they if they passed away. I'm not trying to sound hard or crass or anything, but that's just the facts of it. I'm not I'm not that moved by by modern music. Not to say I'm not moved by modern musicians, I am.

But it's like Metallica. I love Metallica. I've grown up with them, as I've said, you know, talked about ad nauseum. And, you know, if they passed away, if James Headfield, God forbid, passed away or something like that, I would be really fucked up over it. I'd be really sad. But it's not like I'd be sitting there going like, oh, shit, what am I going to do without that next Metallica record?

So I think of it as, I think of it in a little different terms, I guess. I think about it in terms of, like, who's going to leave the hole? and I guess for me the answer I mean James Headfield yeah I mean Metallica that's that they'd leave a huge hole it would make me feel like I'm like I'm getting very very old if Metallica suddenly wasn't here but I think someone like like perhaps Dave Grohl you know the guy he's just he's been with me I feel like

even when he wasn't with me you know even before Nirvana when he when Nirvana hit one of the first things I was asking myself was who the fuck is this drummer? And then turns out he was in a hardcore band. You know, he's in scream. And it's just like, oh, my God. Like, he's a DC hardcore kid. And he's in the biggest rock band on the planet. And then, of course, Kurt dies. And then the foo fighters come. And Dave turns himself and the foo fighters into an institution. And I think, you know, he's sort of been there the whole time with us. And that loss would be a tremendous one for me to take emotionally for reasons that go beyond, beyond music.

So that's my answer. Let's check out a couple texts here. This one from the 9-40, Jake, the Metallica episode was Primo, my man. I know you've said in the past that you were done with the multi-part episodes, but Metallica could have been one of those candidates for a two or three-part deep dive. That said, the artist said, I can't live in the world without is Maynard. James Keenan, yes, the band Tool has an amazing history. A perfect circle is amazing, and Pusifer just turns music in its head.

But Maynard, as an artist and an individual is like a cult leader. You have to dig into his history from Boston, Michigan, to serving in the Army, going to L.A., to become an interior designer, to becoming one of the America's most respected winemakers, dig in and check him out best and rock a roll. Casey, Casey, great fucking text, man. I'm reading it for obvious reasons.

It's very apropos for everything we've been talking about in this bonus episode. Metallica, yes, there will be, I can't stop doing, first of all, I can't stop doing two-part episodes. The problem is I just got to figure out how to release them. It's hard. It's hard to figure out how to release the two-part episodes because you kind of get dinged. You don't kind of get the credit for it. I don't want to go into the details. But anyhow, this Cliff Burton, this is really a Cliff Burton episode. And there's so much of Metallica's history that I want to

dive into research-wise. And I want to bring to you guys. So there will be more Metallica episodes, at least in a second, perhaps a third. Okay. On Tool. Thank you. You know, I knew Maynard has a Boston connection. I believe he lives in the same neighborhood I lived in at a different time in Davis Square, Somerville. I could be wrong. That was a long, long time ago. When I saw Tool in Boston years ago, I remember him specifically cutting down Somerville

residence, which I thought was hysterical at the time. A lot of people didn't think it was funny. I, of course, did. I will, look, I got to get into Tool. I got to get into the history. tool. I got to find an angle in to do a tool story. That's, that's my takeaway from the engagement this week. So I appreciate this one, 940. 306 types in. Hey, heavy metal parking lot. Yes, back in the weird era between the death of video rentals and before streaming, I rented through

the mail, a DVD of this show. And there was a bonus dock where they found some of the iconic concert goers. I wish I could find it again. Anyway, love the podcast. It's like listening to one of my friends in the garage, chewing on wild pop culture moments in our lives. Keep on on being rad from Blondie. Blondie, you got it. 306. You got it. Great text. Appreciate it. Davis writes, and hey, Jake, it's Davis from the 514. I've been in All Access members since day one, and I love every minute. How about offering mini episodes to us members? I like the idea of a five to 10 minute episodes of specific events in music history. That way, you don't have to tell a full story. You just could talk about a specific event that's particularly disgraceful. Sounds fun to me. Take

it easy, my man, rock a roll. Davis, great text. man, great idea. I've been chewing on something that's kind of similar to that. And this kind of gives me some more color and more context to continue to kind of roll this idea around in my head. Appreciate you, appreciate the All-Axcess members. Guys, you want to become an All-Axcess member like Davis. What he's referring to is this All-Axaccess member club we have.

I talk about it every week. It's, you go to disgracelandpod.com slash membership. You're going to get ad-free episodes. You're going to get a free episode every week. and some other goodies as well. Trying to figure out how to make this more valuable for you guys, for you all-access members, trying to figure out if what we are offering

is valuable enough for you, if perhaps we should be doing something else. I'm not sure. That's what Davis is referring to. Okay, you can also hit us up, as you know, at Discred Slend Pod on Instagram, on X, Facebook, TikTok, at ShepCorp, Chris on Instagram, writes Ronnie James Dio was a hard one to get over.

And he, of course, is answering this question to what artist can't you live with? out. And I bring this up because I was shocked at Dio's place on the list of top selling albums of all time. And in the Instagram post I did on Cliff, I was either the real I posted on Cliff Burton yesterday or it was the Metallica, just the straight post in the grid. Someone had made a similar comment. I don't have your, I don't have your handle in front of me at the time, but a similar comment about Dio, you can read it there. And I'm just a little shocked to see the Dio love. I really true. really am. I did, you know, I love this, though. I love that, you know, I'm learning the depths of,

of, uh, appreciation for bands that I just kind of knew were there. And I know people were into them, but I didn't realize how the emotional connection to, uh, to you guys, Dio being one, tool being the other. Um, I think I, I think, guys, is there a Dio episode there? Let me know. 617, 906, 6663A. Uncle Jesse's twins writes, hey, where's the merch? Well, listen, Uncle Jesse's twins. The merch is at www. www.discreacelandpod.com slash merch. I want you guys to stick around a bit. I'll be back on the other side. I've got some merch for some winners, some folks of y'all

who have been shouting out disgrace land, leaving reviews for us. I got some merch. I'm going to announce those winners on the other side. Take it a quick break. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. Play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends.

I'm Anna Sinfield. And in this new season of the girlfriends, Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands.

I said, oh, hell no, I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Your husband is not who you think he is. Your body is not what you thought it was. Your identity is formed by a secret history.

I'm Danny Shapiro. And these are just a few of the stunning stories I'll be exploring on the 14th season of family secrets. And just then, we felt the plain turn in the air, so much so that the bags that were under people's seats just kind of flew into the aisle. Each week, we dive headfirst into the complex power of secrecy, how it shapes our identities and relationships, and how it ultimately can reveal to us our truest selves. My daughter, she's pretending she doesn't know, but is trying to cook and feed me and keep me alive because I wasn't eating anything. And me pretending like everything was fine. He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move. And he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off.

And that was the last time I saw him. Listen to season 14 of Family Secrets, starting May 7th on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When, like, young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever. And my first thing is always, can you think of anything else? that you can do rather be disappointed in. Do that. Dennis Leary.

I wake up and I'm hitting him in the head with a water bomb. And Bruce Jenner is on the aisle in a karate stance. Like he's about to attack me. Like making karate noises. And his entire the Kardashian family over there, everybody's going, and the air marshal is trying to grab my arms and screaming. And I immediately know that I've been asleepwalking. David O'Yellow-O.

I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Guy Branham. So anyway, Nicole Kidman broke up with Keith Urban. Being half of a country couple was always a hat she was going to wear, not like a life she was going to lead. Oh, interesting. I like that. Did you practice that on your way over?

Gaten Matarazzo from Stranger Things. Tena, monjeu. Camilla Morone. Kenny Silver and more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, guys, we are back.

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Let's see what we got here. This week, I wanted to read, this review on Spotify from Mr. Dot Son of Jack. As a long-time Metallica fan, how long my friend, Danny gave me a tape copy of their demo that he got when he visited California. I don't know who Danny is, but I like this review. I've seen them over 30 times, bumped into Lars and James and New York nightclubs and of every album, the first five on vinyl and their submissions to the Metal Massacre album series. This is probably one of the best episodes since, in my opinion, your best episode, which is Prince, summed up in three words.

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You want to email. This one is from Emily Kefer. I like this one. A couple after parties ago, we were talking about our formative years. This one comes from Emily. Kephyr in the subject is formative years messages, Hey Jake, heard you talk about how 1990 was a big formative year for you. That year was also a significant time for me,

specifically the summer of 1990. I was just about to enter the seventh grade. I read the outsiders, and my young eyes got to see Tommy Lee doing his drum solo over the crowd before landing back on stage, sporting his leather thong and proceeding to moon the crowd. As a coming-of-age pre-teen, that was exciting. Let's not forget the Judas Priest suicide trial that happened that year

which had to do with teen suicide. Also, one of my all-time favorite movies came out during that time called Pump Up the Volume, starring Christian Slater. Thanks for all that you do. You help me get through the hours of monotonous work. I love your show. Emily, thanks for the email. I appreciate it.

I, too, saw Pump Up to the Volume in the theaters when it came out. I was also, all of us, my friends and all of us were shocked and horrified by the Judas priest's suicide trial. I remember that as being earlier than 1990, though, but maybe I'm just misremembering that. And the Tommy Lee thing with the drum kit going out into the audience and the, you know, it was just a revelation. It was like one of those things that went around the neighborhood. Everybody was talking about it when it started to happen. That was the theater of pain tour, which also I remember as being pre-1990, but you know what? I think he might have debuted that

little trick on the theater of pain tour and then ended up just continuing to do it at shows. Emily, thanks for the email. Guys, hit me up, disgracelandpod at gmail.com on the emails. You can respond to any of these questions. We're talking about any of these topics, any of these themes, or you can just hit me up, talk about whatever you want to talk about. All right, guys, this episode is nearing its end, but the after party is going to continue for our All Access members, which I mentioned before.

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per month. All you got to do is go to disgracelandpod.com slash membership. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield. And in this new season of the girlfriends, oh my God, this is the same man. A group of of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck.

I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe.

On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Your husband is not who you think he, is. Your body is not what you thought it was. Your identity is formed by a secret history. I'm Danny Shapiro, and these are just a few of the stunning stories I'll be exploring on the 14th season of family secrets. And just then, we felt the plain turn in the air, so much so that the bags that were under people's seats just kind of flew into the aisle. Each week, we dive head first into the complex power of secrecy, how it shapes our identities and relationships, and how

it ultimately can reveal to us our truest selves. My daughter, she's pretending she doesn't know, but is trying to cook and feed me and keep me alive because I wasn't eating anything. And me pretending like everything was fine. He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move. And he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off. And that was the last time I saw him.

Listen to season 14 of Family Secrets, starting May 7th, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When like young people come up to me and they want to be an act or whatever. My first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? Rather be disappointed in. Do that.

Dennis Leary. I wake up and I'm hitting him in the head with a water bomb. And Bruce Jenner is on the aisle in a karate stance like he's about to attack me. You're like, making karate noises. And his entire the Kardashian family over there, everybody's going, and the air marshal is trying to grab my arms and screaming. And I immediately know that I've been asleep walking. David O'Yellowo.

I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Guy Branham. So anyway, Nicole Kidman broke up with Keith Thurban. Being half of a country couple was always a hat she was going to wear, not like a life she was going to lead. Oh, interesting. I like that. Did you practice that on your way over?

Gaten Matarazzo from Stranger Things. Tena Monsu. Camilla Morone, Carrie Kenny Silver, and more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right. Welcome back. I'm about to get out of here. Before I do, before next week's Brittany Murphy episode, guys,

there's going to be a rewind episode from our archive popping up in your fees. We have so many episodes in our archive. We talked a lot about top-selling artists today in this bonus episode. We talked about the Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Madonna, and Pink Floyd, all artists that are on the list of top 10 selling artists of all time and are all artists that we've covered in disgrace land. We have nine episodes on the Beatles, but episode 73 and 74 from February and March of 20,

2021, our two of my favorite Beatles episodes are available in the archive for you to listen to right now. Our Led Zeppelin episode, that one came out back in October of 2019. That's episode 39 in your archive. Madonna, I love this episode because it's kind of a love letter to early 80s, New York City. This episode came out around the same time as that Zeppelin episodes from the same season. Also came out in October of 2019. The Madonna episode for you guys is episode number 42, if you're interested. And our Pink Floyd episode, episode 107, came out August 9th, 2022, and it is also ready for you in the archive to check out.

So that brings us nearly to an end, folks. So let's recap this, number one, right now on your feed, a brand new episode on Metallica. Number two coming tomorrow, a special rewind episode from our archive. And we are talking Britney Murphy next week and celebrity causes of death that we are not buying, that are suspicious. I want to know which celebrity causes of death sound too suspicious to you guys. Hit me up 617-90666338 and tell me, call me on the telephone or send me a text or hit me up at Disgrace Land Pod on the socials. Number three, merch winners, get in touch. You know who you are.

Number four, remember, no one cares about great storytelling more than you doing well. That's a disgrace. All right, in honor of the great Cliff Burton from Metallica, this is me reading to you the Billboard charts from the week of September 27, 1986, the week Cliff Burton died. Number one, stuck with you. Huey Lewis in the news. Last week, one. Peak position, one. Weeks on chart, nine.

Number two, friends and lovers, Carl Anderson and Glory Loring. Last week, three, peak position, two, weeks on chart, 13. Number three, dancing on the ceiling. Lionel Richie. Last week, two, peak position, two, weeks on top. Churk, 11. Number four, walk this way. Number three, run DMC, last week, last week, nine, last position, four, six, weeks on chur, nine, number five, number seven, don't forget when I think of God.

This year. Next time. Weeks on church. Number six. Quit talking and start mixing. When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist, they take matters into their own hands. I vowed I will be his last target.

He is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves. We always say that trust your girlfriends. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler,

we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When like young people come off to me, they want to be an actor or whatever. And my first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? You'd rather be disappointed in. Do that. David O'Yelloo.

I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Dennis Leary, Gait and Moderato from Stranger Things. Tena Mongeau. Camilla Morone, Carrie Kenny Silver, and more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Your husband is not who you think he is. Your body is not what you thought it was.

Your identity is formed by a secret history. I'm Danny Shapiro. And these are just a few of the stunning stories I'll be exploring on the 14th season of Family Secrets. He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move. And he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off. and that was the last time I saw him. Listen to season 14 of Family Secrets starting May 7th

on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.