DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode: CASSM, Nikki Sixx, and the Gospel According to Jimmy Buffett

Episode Date: July 17, 2025

This week, Jake dives deeper into Nikki Sixx (Mötley Crüe, Part 2), calls out the Corporate Algorithmic Studio Storytelling Machine (CASSM), and explains why he’s suddenly obsessed with Jimmy Buffett. Plus: Jeff Buckley, Oasis, and your voicemails and DMs. On Tuesday, we're bringing you our episode on Waylon Jennings, and Jake wants to know: Who was the most punk rock country singer? Share your thoughts at 617-906-6638, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or on socials @disgracelandpod. For more great Disgraceland episodes, dive into our extensive archive, including such episodes as: Episode 76 - ⁠New York Dolls Episode 178 - Bob Dylan Episode 227 - Bob Dylan pt 2 Episode 72 - Ramones To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is exactly right. Double Elvis. When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist, they take matters into their own hands. I vowed. I will be his last target. He is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves. We always say that trust your girlfriends. Listen to the girlfriends.

Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When like young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever. My first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? Rather be disappointed in. Do that.

David O'Yellowo. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Dennis Leary, Gaten Matarazzo from Stranger Things, Tana Monsu, Camilla Morone, Carrie Kenny Silver, and more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the After Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the after party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of disgrace land to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. Our mission to uncover the truth, to confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode, we are talking about this week's full episode subject, Nikki Six, part two of our Motley Crew saga. We're rewinding back to our Pink Floyd episode, previewing our upcoming episode on Wayland, Jennings and we get into your voicemails, text, DMs, and as always, a whole lot of rosy.

This is the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know that the best history is the history that gets buried. Disgraceland is where I tell the stories they didn't want told, the kind you end up telling to someone else. All right, discos, let's get into it. Oftentimes, when I'm writing a disgrace land episode, I'm not only thinking of you guys, I have an image of what you guys look like. Now, I don't know a lot of you personally, but some of you I do. Some of you I've met in person

at events. Some of you I'm more familiar with from the Patreon connection that we have in the chat. And of course, I get a sense of who you are and what you look like from our interactions on social. Now, some of you are horn-rimmed glasses wearing librarians and some of you are tattooed truck drivers and some of you are everything in between. What connects you isn't how you look, of course, whether that's similar or dissimilar, what connects you is your curiosity. You, like me, are obsessed. I've been thinking about this a lot lately. Obsessed with music, obsessed with great storytelling, obsessed with the truth because the truth

is far more interesting than the basic PR approved or AI generated or basic AF creator drivel that we're getting in our feeds these days, being on social or even from the new documentaries and biopics that we're getting from the streamers. As somebody who deals pretty much exclusively in music history, this is very discouraging for me, okay? There's so much more to these music history stories. You saw Gimme Shelter. You've seen 24-hour party people.

You know what great music storytelling is. You are cooler than your average basic music listener. You know that most of the stories about the musicians you love, the ones that ones the algorithm is feeding us are sanitized, spun, quote unquote, safe narratives, cleaned up by some unholy union of sentimental dramatists and tightly wound entertainment lawyers, made for modern TV, not for mythology. But the truth is that the myth is way more entertaining than what they're giving us. These motherfuckers are everywhere, too, okay? The corporate algorithmic studio storytelling machine. My YouTube feed is an abomination of shitty, wrote, creator in AI storytelling.

Yes, Mr. YouTube. I like music, sure, but I don't need 17 different avatars trying to explain to me who the fucking Beatles are. I get it. Okay? Oh, you see me, you say? You want to offer me something perhaps a bit more niche? The reason the Beatles stop touring. I'm good, dude. I don't need a millionth explanation on how the screaming girls were too loud. If you're not talking about Japanese assassins at Buticon trying to take out George and Ringo, I'm clicking next. And I'm guessing that you are too. The streamers are even worse because they have the money and the means to make great content. And what do we get? It ain't good. The documentaries are boring. I know the stories. I know them as they're unfolding on the screen in front of me. The biopics, they often leave out the nasty little bits.

And even when the story is bonkers, they blow it these days. Chaos on Netflix was a massive disappointment. Now, I don't blame Aram Morris or Tom O'Neill. I can tell that the doc was noted to death by executives. It missed on all the magical storytelling in the book and definitely could have been made to be great if the executives get out of the way and let the storytellers do their thing. I don't know about you guys, but the corporate algorithmic studio storytelling machine, this blob that I'm referring to here that I'm going to call Kazam, all right, C-A-S-S-M. Again, corporate algorithmic studio storytelling machine, C-A-S-S-M, KASM, A-K-A-A-A-A-A-A-G-A-D-D-E-D-E-D-R-E-E-D-E-R-E-E-D-R-E-E-E-E-D-R-E. See what I did here. this thing, this blob, it's taking over.

Okay? And it makes me feel it's freaking alienating, man, because of you guys, I know there are hundreds of thousands of people out there who are clamoring for the true stories from music history. I don't need to be made to feel by Mr. Kazim here that I'm alone or that I'm a freak for caring about the fact that John Lennon was into Barbara Walters and hung up on Bruce Springsteen. These are the details I want in my storytelling.

because like you, I'm curious. Because like you, I want more interesting stories. Because like you, I'm smart enough to know that the truth is more interesting than the sanitized. Because like you, I'm cool enough to know the chasm, the corporate algorithmic studio storytelling machine, is the problem, not me. And that the solution is, well, better stories for music history anyways in this case. The stories we tell to each other every week. the stories you not only want to hear, but that you want to tell the stories they don't want told.

Now, all that said, the trailer for the new Jeff Buckley documentary dropped today. And I am nothing, if not hopelessly hopeful because the trailer for It's Never Over, Jeff Buckley, directed by Amy Berg. It looks incredible. I have high hopes, hopes that this film gets to the core of this incredible artist and delivers storytelling that's worthy of such a legend. Again, I'm hopeful, despite my opening rant here. I'm not cynical, okay?

I watched the trailer for this documentary, and I literally got emotional. I felt something akin to actual loss. I'm not joking. I didn't know Jeff, but I feel connected to him for a lot of different reasons. Some of you do, too, I'm sure. We discussed these reasons already when we released our Jeff Buckley episode a couple years ago or whatever it was. And, you know, some will discuss in the future once this movie drops. We'll get into all of it.

but the loss of Jeff Buckley was as tremendous as his explosion was onto the scene. And I can't wait to get a deeper dive into that whole thing, into the whole myth of Jeff Buckley with this documentary. Now, on the subject of emotion, okay, if you were alive in the 1990s and watched any of the footage from last weekend's Oasis Manchester gig and didn't get emotional, then you are dead inside. somebody call up the fucking mortician and get them over to your place these guys legends all i know

if you saw these videos like me you were just i mean the fomo if any of you were there by all means call me up 617 90666 636 638 i want to hear about it but the fomo i had was unreal the fucking audience screaming every word to every song for two hours straight it's it's sealed this thinking for me that i've been that i've been noodling on the last couple weeks we want connection more than ever. Modern music, now, this isn't grandpa coming at you here. This isn't like old head, hardcore guy coming at you here. This isn't my generation.

That's not what this is. Don't take it that way. Modern music doesn't connect us the way that artists that we loved in the past connected us. And it has nothing to do with taste or style or who's good or who sucks. We simply just don't rally around bands an artist now like we did then when there was a monoculture.

When we get a peek back into what it was like then, when these songs, when these artists bring us back to that place, like what OASIS is doing right now, it's hyper intense, hyper emotional. It's not nostalgia we crave. It's the type of connection that was once everywhere, but has been obliterated by the, the algorithms, okay, that siphon us off into these tidy little niche feeds where we only

connect with those who are exactly the same as us. I mean, this is why I cover artists from every genre. This is why I cover artists that I'm not particularly interested in because I'm curious, because I feel like I'll get into something that will be interesting and that will in turn help us tap into something together, and we'll have this other type of connection. I don't want to be siphoned off into my own tiny little niche feed, okay? This connection that we're seeing at these OASIS gigs,

this is also why young people are showing up in droves to these concerts with these guys who were making music before they were born in some cases. And it's why OASIS is charting again. This type of connection is like mainlining a type of visceral excitement that, you know, non-millennials, non-Gen X, whatever, never experienced. It is, as Liam Gallagher once saying, electric. All right, if you've been listening to me the last few weeks, then you know I haven't been

able to shut up about Chris Whitaker's We Begin at the End. The book that I was reading, I finished it last week, and before the end, I had two audible gasps, It shocked me as a reader. It made me feel like a character in a Smith song, like an outlaw from Springsteen's Nebraska. It nearly made me cry, and I don't cry easily. It's not only one of the best murder mystery slash thriller slash crime novels slash whatever the fuck I've read. It's one of the best books I've read, period. I didn't want it to end. It took me probably three weeks to read, maybe four. I was reading. I was slow rolling it, man, because I didn't want it to end. That doesn't happen. often. Anyways, I'm done with it. It's fantastic. You should all read it. You should tell me what you

think about it. I just started reading Chuck Hogan's gangland, by the way. Chuck Hogan wrote the town that the Ben Affleck movie is based on. I'll be done with this book before the end of the week. I can tell it's going down hard. It's going down fast. It's like a shot of good Berman after a big emotional night of trauma, which was, you know, the Chris Whitaker book. Hogan's book, on the other hand, straight 70s mafia perfection. It was an incredible character, one that gave me one of those audible gas, so I was just talking about, but just gave it to me two chapters just fucking great. Love it.

That's Gangland by Chuck Hogan, if you're interested. Now, what I'm listening to, you'll never believe it, but I'm listening to Jimmy Buffett. What the hell happened to your slightly edgy, smart-ass, Gen X disgrace land host, you ask, well, like you guys, I got curious. Now, someone, one of you, man, I wish I could remember who, so I could thank you.

One of you sent me an email or a text or a DM. I don't know if we read it here on the show or whatever, or if I just responded, you know, wherever you hit me up, but one of you got in touch and you told me that the Jimmy Buffett backstory was completely contrary to the sort of smiley, blissful, escapeist, parrothead, Margaritaville image that I have in my head. And boy, oh boy, were you right? And bonus, the music, okay, up and until just after the record that Margaritaville is on, the music, Jimmy Buffett's early records, pretty damn good. I mean, I'm into it. I hesitate to say that.

that I'm having a Jimmy Buffett summer because I'm not. I'm having a turnstile in Keith Jarrett summer. But these records shocked me with how much I liked them. Okay. I'll be done writing this episode. I should say I'm researching all this for an episode. And I'll be done. I'm writing it this week.

I'll be done with it this week. And it'll be out in a couple months. And I got to say, I love it when you guys dig up the dirt for me and point me in the right direction. So thank you. Dig. Keep digging. Dig baby dig.

I wanted to start a band once called Dream Baby, dream after the suicide song. Dig baby dig is good though. All right. Maybe we can come up with shirts. Let's say dig baby dig. I don't know. We'll see.

All right. If you want more music, Rex, if you want to know how Marlon Brando influenced the music that I'm listening to this week and what specific songs I'm recommending for your July playlist,

you got to listen to the Hollywoodland rap party. All right? So Rizeth and I get down on our movie inspired musical recommendations. Trust me, that makes sense. Subscribe and listen to Hollywoodland wherever podcasts are available for free. Speaking of, I don't know, stuff, podcast episodes, Marlon Brando, legend that he is,

other legends, another legend, Nikki Six. The myth surrounding Nikki Six are our full episode subject this week. The myth is that he died and came back to life. But we reckon with the fact that, yes, that's true, man, that's true. But the real truth is that he actually died twice and came back to life, if you can believe that. Nicky's story of rock and roll animalism is so wild that we couldn't even come close to telling all the dirty details that he gets into in his autobiography.

We couldn't even come close to fitting it into the full episode this week. But hey, that's what we have these bonus episodes for. And in the all-access section of this after party, I'm going to be giving you three quick stories of Nikki Six rock and roll criminality and debauchery that were just too damn hot for the wide feed. You've got to be a member, though, to access that content. But don't sweat. It becoming a member only costs $5.

a month less than a cup of coffee these days. What's that all about? Go to disgrace-landpod.com slash membership to sign up via Patreon or Apple. You can sign up directly on Patreon or Apple too. And that membership, it not only gets you the extra content in these bonus episodes, but it gets you ad-free listening in an extra full episode per month and access to me and your fellow discos chopping it up in the disgrace-sland community chat on Patreon.

Plus, like I said, this week, get to hear three extra tales of Nikki Six Madness. Too Wild for the full episode. sign up, become a member today. Disgracelampod.com slash membership. All right, coming up after this episode, we are rewinding to our Pink Floyd story. If you want to know the true depths and cause of Sid Barrett's madness and hear a pretty funny story about who is Pete Townsend tripping his balls off,

then listen to the Pink Floyd episode coming up after this after party. After Floyd on Tuesday, we have our new episode on Waylon Jennings. Now, if you thought Wayland was messing, up, you're going to want to hear the story about the lengths Wayland Jennings had to go to to hide his drugs from his roommate, who was even more messed up than he was. Now, that roommate was, of course, Johnny Cash. And this begs the question that I want you to be thinking about when you listen to the Wayland Jennings episode next. This question is, who was the most punk rock of the country music singers? All right? I want to know, 617-906-66-36-38, voicemail and text.

leave me a voicemail, send me a text. You might hear your answer played on next week's after party. Hit me up at disgracelampod.com. Surefire way to get me to respond to you is to respond in the Patreon chat to this question, who is the most punk rock of the country singers. But of course, the old telephone works as well, as do the apps at disgracelampod on social.

Disgracelmpot at gmail.com. I want to email me. I got to take a quick break. Coming up next, the music, the musicians, the crimes, the stories you want to talk about with your voicemails, texts, DMs, and more. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes.

And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends, Oh my God, this is the same man. a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care.

So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

This season on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When like young people come up to me and they want to be an act or whatever, my first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? Rather be disappointed in. Do that. Dennis Leary. I wake up and I'm hitting him in the head with a water bomb.

And Bruce Jenner is on the aisle in a karate stance like he's about to attack me. Like making karate noises. And his entire the Kardashian family over there, everybody's going, and the air marshal is trying to grab my arms and screaming. And I immediately know that I've been asleep walking. David O'Yellowo. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Guy Branham.

So anyway, Nicole Kimman broke up with Keith Thurban. Being half of a country couple was always a hat she was going to wear. not like a life she was going to lead. Oh, interesting. I like that. Did you practice that on your way over? Gaten Madarazzo from Stranger Things. Tana Monsu.

Camilla Morone, Carrie Kenny Silver, and more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Remember when you'd walk into your local video rental place and there were always those two employees behind the counter arguing about movies?

Well, that's us. I'm Millie de Cherico. And I'm Casey O'Brien. And now we're arguing about movies on our podcast, Dear Movies I Love You, from the Exactly Right Network. Can I say something about the Criterion Clause? Go ahead, dude. They're letting too many people in there.

Okay, that's another film, Gripe I got to. Sadly, that rental place doesn't exist anymore. It's probably a store that sells running shoes. Or an ice cream shop with an extra pee and an E at the end. So consider us your Slacker Movie Clerks in podcast form. like to establish a timeline of the moment you figured out who Channing Tatum was. Every Tuesday, we dig into the movies we can't stop obsessing over, from hidden gems to big screen favorites. New episodes drop every week on the exactly right network.

Listen to Dear Movies I Love You on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, discos, we're back. Listen, Apple Podcast users, you know the drill. Make sure you get auto downloads turned on so you don't miss any of our episodes. 617-906-66-36-3-8 you know where I'm at same place I'm at every week in the phone booth the one across the hall hanging on the telephone waiting for you to send me a voicemail waiting for you to send me a text because you guys know better than anyone that music history does not have to be boring okay you got a line on these insane stories just like I got a line on these insane stories and you dig and you call and you dig and you text and you dig and you

you DM all right Pete Milan one of our uh patreon chat members hit us up hit me up over in the Patreon chat publicly with this incredible story last week about David Bowie getting banned from SNL, similar to the replacements last week's full, full episode subject, getting banned from SNL, which I didn't know. I didn't know that about David Bowie. And this was in the in the 80s, I believe. Might have been early 90s. He sent me a link to the article. Fascinating to me. What's up with Lorne Michaels just like, you're banned. You know what I mean? Like it just strikes me as uh uh it's like the dude you know the that that fucking kid in your neighborhood who who you let play in the in the football game because he had the the better football but he's really a pain

in the ass and something didn't go his way and he took the fucking ball home that's what laura michaels reminds me of here which is your band i mean Elvis costello okay uh the replacements david bowie what are you doing man who else we need a running list of people banned from Nighter Night Live. Anyways, my point, Pete Milan, one of you guys gave me that stories, and I appreciate it. Let's get into some calls here. 617-90666-66-3-8. You guys want to call me with any incredible stories from music history. You can do that. You can call me. You can answer the question of the week from last week, which was, what was the question? Oh yeah, which hair metal bands are you most into? You know, which is the one, the one that, especially if you're not a hair metal person.

A lot of incoming from you guys on wanting to hear some hair metal episodes. I kind of use this Motley crew part two, Nikki's six episode to get a bead on who exactly from the hair metal scene you guys are into with the question of the week. Let's check out Jim from the 318. Hey, Jake, this is Jim from the 318. Absolutely love the show man. Regarding the hair metal question, now it's primarily in 80s and 90s, college rock, alternative rock, whatever you want to call it, guys. Going to high school in the middle-eight 80s, I couldn't avoid hearing a lot of hair metal, and I liked a lot of it. Particularly love the band Rats.

They just had a really catchy sound, wrote really memorable songs. They had an amazing guitar duo with the late-great Robin Cosby and Warren D. Martini. A vocalist, Stephen Piercy, had a kind of snoddy, semi-punk tone to his voice, and Bobby Blottsy was my kind of drummer. Just a straight-ahead basher who knew how to make the song stand. band out. So yeah, there are a lot of other hair metal bands I will admit to have loved. The rat kind of rose to the top. And I'm responding late to the previous week's question.

Two other bands I thought should have been huge were the Northeast Mission of Burma and the Northwest Posey's. Mission of Burma was so far ahead of the curb and their sound. It's just amazing. You go back and listen to their early stuff. And the posies with that, there's incredible. harmonies mixed with the fuzzy guitar, they should also have been at the top of the heat. Anyway, man, love the show.

Can't wait to hear it every week. Rock and Rolla. Jam, it's interesting you bring up Rat. I saw Nikki Six post the other day on Instagram and he just, it was kind of sad. He had a picture of him and Robin Crosby and he just said, I miss my friend Robin. And I don't know, it was just all these great pictures of him and Robin Crosby together. Getting up to no good, I'm sure. I wasn't a big rat guy, but I get it.

I totally get it. And I think there's actually a rat episode there. I think Robin's death was very sad, very sad chapter for music history, and it'd be cool to get into that story. All right, let's check out the 251 on Jimmy Buffett. Hey, Jake, been rocking with you from Day 1. I just heard yesterday before you're going to have a Jimmy Buffett episode.

Just want to give you my two cents. I'm in L.A., lower Alabama. Never like you. Not a big fan. Didn't hate him, but it's kind of music. or a metalhead. Anyway, I went to work for his sister, has a restaurant, or had a restaurant, now I was 4 or 5.

I got to meet Jenny a couple of times. I was an English teacher for years, so I was very impressed with his writing ability, and a couple books. Some of the songs, the only ones that, what did a dead poet, wife of the dead poet or whatever is great, Levin the Library's great, come Monday's great,

I didn't care for all the Margaritaville stuff. Anyway, I met to do it a couple of times, I had dinner with him once, super chill guy. I asked him if he hadn't done music, what would he do? He was going to be a history teacher. He even has a degree in history from University of Southern Mississippi. Anyway, oh, you did mention your reading book by Tom McGuane. I'm sure you know this for your research, but he is Jimmy's brother-in-law, married to his sister Lori, who I met and Tom,

his sister-Lory was a world-class equestrian. question and McGuane's first wife was Margot Kidder from the Superman's. Anyway, love your show, brother. I can't wait to hear of Buffett stuff. Take care. Rock and roll up. Gotta love the metalhead showing up for Jimmy Buffett. And, you know, in the research,

I knew nothing about Jimmy Buffett before researching this episode. One thing is abundantly clear in this research and that is that Jimmy Buffett was a great fucking guy. Hands down. Like, I kept having this feeling in researching

Jimmy Buffett, this feeling of, oh man, I wish this guy was still alive. And he's just so effortlessly charming in an authentic way. He's always smiling or was always smiling, I should say. And it just seems like a really great dude. I don't know that he would have been a history teacher. I think he had, it was tough trying to get this into the episode. I'm still writing it. I'm trying to make this point. He had this real entrepreneurial spirit that I totally related to because of how he grew up in Alabama with his, sorry, in Mississippi, I should say he was born in Alabama, grew up in Mississippi, and just who his parents were very hardworking, very kind of blue collar people. And obviously we see that come through with his career. So I don't know if he would have been

a history teacher. That seems like a stretch. Maybe that's something he said. But I don't know. What do I know? You met him. I didn't meet him. As for Tom McGuane, I'm kind of, I'm kind of more impressed that you met Tom McGuane than I am. You met Jimmy Buffett. that's incredible. And yes, I did know about him being Jimmy's brother-in-law. I did, I even knew about Margot Kidder, but I did not know that until I researched Jimmy Buffett. So thanks for the call. Appreciate it. Hope you dig Buffett episode coming up soon. Will not be what you expect. Won't be with any of you guys suspect. All right, let's check out the 512. Jay, it's Drew in the 512, Austin, Texas. Hey, first, a shout out to all my neighbors who are

digging out. It's been a rough couple of weeks. So some love to them. But Just got done listening to your Guns and Roses episodes. Fantastic as always. Wondering if you've read Duff McCaghan's memoir, it's so easy. If not, definitely recommend it. I read a lot of memoirs, rock and roll musicians, and his is heads and shoulders above the rest. It's not your typical read.

Smart, inspiring, well-written. I highly recommend. Duff McCaghan, it's so easy. Keep up the good work. Love your pod. 512, yes. I've been praying for all you folks in Texas, hoping that you get some relief. Those of you who were affected from the storm, your neighbors down there, 512. As for Duff McCaghan's memoir, I have not read it. I believe it came out after I researched the Guns and Roses episode. but I've always known Duff McCagan to be a smart, smart dude, one of the smarter rock and rollers.

So it doesn't surprise me that his memoir is great, as you say. Last time I went to South by Southwest, not the last time I went to Austin, but the last time I went to South by Southwest. It was with Bodega Girls, my band at the time, and we were eating in a nice restaurant, not something we did often. And Duff was in there at a table with a bunch of people.

It was a really nice place. and he was just so fucking cool looking. You know, you know those guys who are just older and cool looking and you're just like, damn, man, how do you do it? How do you maintain that glow, dude, that rock and roll glow? And you don't get that rock and roll stink. You know what I'm saying? It's tough for old guys, old rock and rollers, but he's pulling it off.

617-906-663. You guys want to hit me up on anything under the music history son. You can do so. Let's see. Let's see this text from the 412. Hey, Jake. My name is Tom. I'm not the best disco.

Sometimes takes me a few weeks to listen, but I'm all caught up. Greatest hair metal band. Well, you can't deny Motley Crew. Got into them early and eventually led me to harder thrash metal and punk. But I did have a hair band era and one of my favorites was slash is Dio. Rest in peace, Ronnie. I always appreciate your listener's suggestions. Someone recommended Fannie after the Go-Go's episode and they were really good.

Yeah, that's right. Fanny. Forgot about them. Matt Bowden, his head almost exploded. when he found out that I'd never heard them before. And that came from you guys, the disco. So thank you. Like I said, you guys know where the good shit is.

Motley crew was a gateway drug to other thrash metal. I never thought of it that way. But yeah, I can see how that would happen for you. Dio, what a voice. Honestly, I work out to Rainbow in the Dark at least once a week. So good. Also, Dio, New Hampshire Boy. Thanks for the text 412.

Let's go to the 304. Texan simply put, Nebraska, better than blonde on blonde. Whoa, whoa, easy there, cochees. Both masterpieces, but come on. You know, did I say that Nebraska was better than blonde on blonde? I think I did, and I think I stand by that. And I read this text just because he called me Cochise. And I really think that's cool.

And I wanted to get it out on record. Okay, let's go to the 972 texting in, I beg you, three X, Exclamation points. Please, please do an episode or two on the SoCal band, Pennywise. You could do several just on the lead guitarist Fletcher alone in their original bassist. Jason Matthew Thurst died by accidental gunshot. Fletcher took Adam Carolla hostage live on the air in Los Angeles. What? What? Seriously? How do I not know that story? All right, you got it. Pennywise episode coming up. A love. A love. Love it. Great text. 617-906-66-6-6-3-8.

You want to hit me up with this week's question of the week, which let me see if I can remember. It's going to be about Waylon Jennings. Yes, yes, yes. And the question of the week is, who among the country singers was the most punk? Okay, was it Waylon? I don't know.

617-90666-6-38. You tell me, voicemail and text. Also, email, discrescentpot. Atgimel.com. Peter Archacky, I'm most certainly pronouncing that incorrectly, and I apologize, Peter. Subject, David Johansson. Thanks for the episode eulogizing the great David Johansson.

The dolls are tremendously underrated. They were the first American glam band, the first punk band, the first hair band. They paved the way for the Ramones, kiss, poison, motley crew, and on and on. Influential and important in many ways, how they are not in the Hall of Fame is a travesty. I especially liked your description of Johansson as being symbolic of New York City. He was the epitome of New York in the 70s. He will be missed. I know this comment is a little late,

but I wanted you to know that your episode on him was greatly appreciated. Keep up the good work as I enjoy both disgrace land and Hollywoodland. Peter, thanks so much. Happy we hit you with that one. Yeah, I mean, you kind of said it all. You're absolutely right.

Ramones Kiss, poison motley crew. None of them would exist without the New York Dolls. How many of them are in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? Ramones are, pretty sure Kiss is, is Motley Crew? I don't think Molly Crew is. Is Motley Crew? They probably are.

Poison's not. So New York Dolls influences, let's just say, three out of four of these bands in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, yet they're not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. And it's not like they just, like, kind of influenced these bands. I mean, Gene Simmons basically stole the whole fucking thing from New York Dolls. Motley Crew as well. I mean, listen to the Part One episode. just released. Direct influence on Nikki Six. And the Ramones, forget about it. All right. So,

great, great email. Appreciate you, Peter. Thank you. I'll have more on the New York Dolls later when we get into the vault. If you guys got something to say, don't sit on it. Okay, hit me up. Hit me up like Peter. Hit me up like the rest of the callers, the rest of the text, your voices. They prompt me to dig. They prompt me to try and uncover these stories that we've been talking about get buried. The real stories, okay? Sometimes there's stories I'm not even aware of. I'm not even aware of. I'm not even aware that they're out there. Okay? And sometimes these are stories with narratives that are just too convenient, too,

too sanitized, too biopicish, you know, and not nearly as interesting and entertaining as the truth. And I love it when you guys call and you point me in the right direction. So thank you very much and keep them coming. Listen, guys, I want to do something different here. I want to switch gears. I want to dive into our 60 second sports rant in under 30 seconds. But wait, wait, wait, wait, Matt, don't start the buzzer-beater countdown just yet.

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Now, you can't keep me down, man. I'm in it mainly for the old school fashion, sure, if I'm being honest, the big hats and the knickers and all that. No, but I got to say, I get why people spend 25% of their lives on beautifully manicured golf courses because it's fun and obsessive, which, you know, here in disgrace, and we know a thing or two about being obsessive. And yeah, my brother-in-law, the former D-1 golfer, is this going to have to hang tight and let me his J-mask is looking feel the pain partner for the day, get a stroke on.

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They went and they became more interesting. What did they do? They went on a tear, okay? It's up to 10 games now, 10 wins before the All-Star break. 10 straight, I should say, before the All-Star break. Now, now listen, Why do we think that is? What changed since their mediocre underperforming play for the basement of the ALE East?

They got rid of Raffy Devers just like I said they should. And now they need to keep it up after the All-Star break. They got a nab another starter before the deadline and put the Yanks in the rearview where they belong. Let's go, Boston. Don't sleep on this advice, Brazil. You know I'm right, just like I was right about Devers. Shitty clubhouse guys aren't worth it. Good pitching beats good hitting all day long.

Go get us a stud before the deadline. All right, Matt, how'd I do? That beat it? Jake, I got to give you credit for consistency, just like the Red Sox. You're on a streak here. It's two weeks in a row, 47 seconds. So, you know, you got to keep training, keep working at it. You're going to get it down to 30.

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All right. Despite the energy I brought to that rant, I do need a little pick-me-up, so I'm going to take a break. I'm going to hit that five-hour energy.com, transfusion flavor. It is mid-afternoon. The sun is shining. I might not be on a golf course, guys, but I'm here, and I am definitely hitting under under par in this episode, all right?

and so are you guys. Take a quick break. I'll be back in a flash. All right, guys, we are back here in the after party. It is hot as blazes in my studio today. It's because I got these lights on. I got to shut them off. It gets hot in here.

In the studio, I record in two different spots. I record at my desk, like I'm doing right now for the after party. For the full episodes, I record in a booth, in a whisper room booth, which is pretty tight quarters. And it's completely soundproof. and it gets really, really hot in there. And, you know, I'm going to share a little bit here for you. So this was about, I don't know, two weeks ago.

I was recording it's a really, really, really, really hot day. And the more I went into the booth and the more I came out to sort of like get a water in between takes and go back in the, I dropped some clothing is what I'm saying. Okay. And I got down to near nothing by the end of it. Okay, it took me like, you know, it takes me like 30 minutes, 40 minutes to record these things. Really hot. really hot and my son walks in the room and he's he's he's he's like why what's happening this is my seven-year-old son and i explained to him what's going on you know not a big deal whatever and

fast forward to a week later we're at a dinner party a family dinner party uh catered by a chef and we're at uh these people's house uh this house of this of this couple that we did not know and And it's not just me, my wife, and my kids. It's me, my wife, my kids, and my in-laws. And it's this family and their children who are a college and high school age and one adult. So there's about 12 of us all sitting at this one table. And it's a great meal, a coarsed meal. And very much, you know, assigned seating, like the whole thing, you know.

And we've never met any of these folks before. They're friends of my father-in-laws. and I got to say my sons are killing it you know they're making conversation and this is the type of thing where like it's one of those dinner parties where we're sitting at a big round table and for the most part you know one person was speaking at a time there wasn't a lot of sort of side conversations going on there was it wasn't so uptight that it was just like I mentioned but for the most for for for a good portion of it it was just like you know one person would talk it was very it was very conversational but it was also very formal, is my point.

And I was so proud of my sons, both of them. You know, so proud. Like, they're eating, you know, turtle soup, and they're eating stuff that, like, they never would eat, you know, crab cakes. They'd never eat if I tried to get any of them. They're just, they're really trying their best. And they're trying to make conversation.

Again, 11 and 7 years old. And, you know, my oldest, you know, he brings up the fact that, you know, they cloned a dire wolf. was a very interesting point and a really great conversational point for this dinner. And I couldn't have been more proud of him.

And then my youngest, my 7 year old, he takes the cue and he's like, I gotta say something interesting. And this is after, you know, this is after we did the whole,

you know, what do you do for a living, blah, blah, blah, blah. And Willem goes, dead quiet, dead quiet point in the conversation. He goes, my dad records this podcast,

naked. and like total fucking church fart. No, everybody stops talking except our family who just bursts out laughing. The other family is not laughing at all. They've never met us before. They think like I'm some psychopath. Just, um, yeah, one of those moments. Anyways, I wanted to share that with you.

I don't know why. I just did. I feel, you know, I can. Anyhow, that's a thing and that happened. Here we go. Okay, what are we doing? The Hollywoodland Minute. This week on the Hollywoodland show over in the Hollywood Land

feed, we get into the iconic Marlon Brando. And if you want to hear a Marlon Brando story that you likely have never heard before, then you must go to the Hollywoodland feed and subscribe and follow and listen. And if you want more conversation like this one, then I'm giving you right here, but with a little more back and forth, a little more conversational, me and my guys Zath are over in the Hollywood Land Feed every week in the rap party doing our thing. And we get into some great music recommendations, which is one of the highlights of my week, if I'm being honest. Matt, want you go ahead play these guys a clip. Okay, Marlon Brando made me think of Marlon Jackson, brother of Tito, Jackie Jermaine,

and Michael, the five in the Jackson Five. Now, Marlon Jackson has a long, I don't want to say illustrious, but he does have a career in music, and I am recommending none of that. However, at one point, At one point, I believe in 1983, Marlon Jackson produced an album by soul singer Betty Wright. Betty Wright is incredible. The album that Marlon Jackson produced, I don't know if it's incredible. I've never heard it. But I have heard, I Love the Way You Love, from 1972 by Betty Wright. And it features the excellent song, Cleanup Woman.

Okay? So Marlon Brando got me Marlon Jackson, got me Betty Wright, gets the listeners clean-up woman as the song for my recommendation this week. Have you heard Clean Up Woman, by the way? Yes, I have heard Clean Up Woman. There was a great compilation I think Rhino put out, Rhino or somebody back in like the early 2000s. There were like three lesser-known soul R&B female singers, Candy Satan, Betty Wright, and there was a third. And they put out these incredible compilation albums. And that's where I first heard about Betty Wright.

Anyways. All right, that is Hollywoodland. That's a Hollywood and True Crime podcast that we got going on. You want to check that out. You want to subscribe, get over there, and do so today before we run out. I don't know what I'm talking about. All right. Listen, five bucks.

I went through this earlier. Five bucks is going to get you access to not just ad free listening here in disgrace land and Hollywood land. Five bucks isn't just going to get you that. It's not going to just get you that plus an extra episode of disgraceland. It's also going to get you more. more of this here bonus episode. And this week in particular,

you're not going to want to miss out because I'm going to give you three stories about Nikki Six that were just too off the fucking charts for the full episode for the wide feed. Okay, so that's coming up. Go to disgracelandpod.com slash membership.

Become a disgrace land member today. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And Rule 2, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends.

I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends... Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no.

I vowed I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When, like, young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever, and my first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do?

Rather be disappointed in. Do that. Dennis Leary. I wake up and I'm hitting him in the head with a water bomb. And Bruce Jenner is on the aisle in a karate stance. Like he's about to attack me. Like making karate noises. And his entire the Kardashian family over there, everybody's going.

And the air marshal is trying to grab my arms and screaming. I immediately know that I've been asleep walking. David O'Yellowo. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Guy Branham. So anyway, Nicole Kidman broke up with Keith Thurban. Being half of a country couple was always a hat she was going to wear,

not like a life she was going to lead. Oh, interesting. I like that. Did you practice that on your way over? Gaten Matarazzo from Stranger Things. Tena Monjou. Camilla Morone at Carrie Kenny Silver. And more.

Listen to these episodes of Dear Child on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Kate Winkler Dawson, host of the Wicked Words podcast. Each week I sit down with the true crime writers behind some of the most compelling true crime stories and discuss their years spent investigating and why it still matters. He sees his father coming out of the woods with his hands over his face, and he knows something happened. His father just grabs him and says, she's gone, she's gone. These are the cases that leave survivors, families, and the journalists who cover them changed forever.

Working in national television, it'll push you to your limits, and you'll end up doing things you never thought you'd do. You know, you look back at it, and you're like, I can't believe that really happened. Join me and step inside the investigation. New episodes drop every Monday on the Exactly Right Network. Listen to Wicked Words on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, we are back. Let's dip in quickly to some of the subjects

that we mentioned on this show that have been featured in disgrace land before. Jeff Buckley, we talked about Jeff Buckley earlier in the B block, and we have an episode on Jeff Buckley, and if you want to hear about Jeff Buckley's incredible, diverse group of influences,

and you want to hear more about how he died sadly, then you've got to check this episode out. It's a heartbreaker, and I'm sure it'll be a good primer to the dog. that is coming out, I believe in August is when the documentary is released. We mentioned the New York Dolls. And in that New York Dolls episode, we get into how it's kind of the opposite of the Jeff Buckley when we get into, if you want to hear about how they influence Kiss, how they influence the Ramones.

If you want to hear how the caller said, David Johansson was sort of the embodiment of New York City. And you want to hear about the arrest and some all around, you know, rock and roll violence. Then, you know, that New York Dolls episode is waiting for you. We mentioned Bob Dylan. and if you just got a hankering for some Dylan, you want to know why or why not, he may or may not have been involved with the whole Watergate scandal back in the early 70s with Nixon and all.

Then, hey, Bob Dylan part two. It awaits. We also got Bob Dylan part one. And that one's going to disrupt the myth of the motorcycle accident and give you the lowdown on what we think actually happened. Matt will have the information

as he does every week on these episodes in the show notes of this bonus episode to make it easier for you to find. Jeff Buckley, New York Dolls, Bob Dylan. All right, let's recap, shall we? Number one, this week's full episode on Nikki Six is available for you right now. Go check that out. Number two, we are rewinding this week with Pink Floyd.

Number three, up next week. Waylon Jennings, that's right. Number four, over in the Hollywoodland feed, go check out that Marlon Brando episode. Check out the rap party with me and Zeth. Number 5, 617-9066638. voicemail and text. DM me at Disgracelampot on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, X, Disgracelandpod at gmail. to email me. Your voices help me uncover what gets buried. Your takes, they propel me into the dark

corners of music history. So keep them coming. Dig baby dig, all right? Dig baby dig now that the night is over. Yes, Michael Hutchins. Thank you. Number six, do not forget discos. This isn't just content. It's a community, a community of the obsessed. No one cares about music books, records and the crime and grime that ties it all together like you do. And well, that's a disgrace. All right, December 23rd, 1987. The date of Nikki Six's first death. Does that make sense? Sort of. Kind of.

Not really. I don't care. Here's what we were listening to in America on December 23rd, 1987 from the Billboard charts. Number one. Faith. George Michael. Last week, one. Peak position.

One. Weeks on chart. 10. Number two. So emotional. Last week. Three. Peak position.

Two. Weeks on chart. Nine. Number three, is this love? White Snake, last week, two. Peak position, two, weeks on chart, 10. Number four, got my mind set on you. George Harrison, last week, five, one, peak position for weeks on charm, 10.

Number five, shake your love, Debbie Gibson. Last week, four, peak position, five, weeks on charge. Talking and start. Mixing. Cut it! When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist, they take matters into their own hands. I vowed. I will be his last target.

He is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves. We always say that, trust your girlfriends. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When like young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever.

And my first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? Rather be disappointed in. Do that. David O'Yellowo. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Dennis Leary, Gaten Moderato from Stranger Things, Tanna-Majou, Camilla Morone, Carrie Kenny Silver, and more.

Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Sometimes a suspect is found guilty before a verdict is ever read in court. On the Wicked Words podcast, I talk with the writers who dig deep into the cases that changed history,

including Marsha Clark, who went from prosecuting one of the most famous murder cases to writing crime fiction. It doesn't matter that you didn't take part in the murder. If you were at the scene at all, you're guilty of murder. Every week, the real story is revealed. Join us every Monday for new episodes of Wicked Words. Listen to Wicked Words on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.