DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode: Classic Country Gateways, the Best Post-Punk Bands, and Peter Cetera's Bauhaus Tee

Episode Date: July 27, 2023

Jake connects his a-ha moment with country to the greats, specifically this week's DISGRACELAND subject Merle Haggard. Jake takes voicemails, texts, and DMs, and offers his best post-punk bands list. What are your top five music movies of all time? Introduce yourselves! Hit Jake up at 617-906-6638, [e-mail], or on socials @disgracelandpod, and come join the After Party. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hey, Discos, need a little more disgrace land in your life? Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the After Party. Welcome to the disgraceland bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the after party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of disgrace land to the other.

The backyard to dig into the dirt. On this episode, we're talking about Merle Haggard, my country music gateway drug, more British post-punk, and of course your voicemails, text, DMs, and more. And as always, a whole lot of rosy. All right, discos, let's get into it. All right, we are here. We are together. We are commuting in disgrace land. It is Merle Haggard Week.

Merle Haggard is, of course, the subject of our latest full episode of Disgraceland. And in the mini bonus up leading up to the full up on Merle, I discuss a bit about Merle's background and his crimes and a stint in prison and Folson Prison, even his relation to the high character, H.I. From Raising Arizona. So, if you're interested in all that, there is a lot for you to sink your teeth into in that mini episode, also in the full episode. But what I want to talk more about here in the bonus episode is Merle Haggard's music and even more generally about country music,

about classic country music. How many of you are into country music are into classic country music like Merle Haggard? I get it. I get it if you're not. You're into punk rock, you're into hip-hop, you're into Taylor Swift, who knows, you're into like 60 shit. And what does classic country music have to do with punk or hip hop or Taylor Swift or classic rock? Well, it turns out a lot, actually, especially that Taylor Swift part, but I'm not going to go down that rabbit hole here. And rather than to explain to you why classic country has everything to do with modern forms of music, particularly modern forms of aggressive music, like punk rock and even hip-hop,

I thought I would instead share with you how I got into classic country by mistake, by accident. I was in my late teens. I forget how old exactly. And my dad had for years been telling me about the importance of country music on rock and roll and all the music that I loved. But I put him on the pain of mind list when it came to the subject.

I didn't give shit. What did Hank Haggard Jones or whatever the fuck his name was have to do with Hoosker Do or Suicidal or Misfits, NWA, Metallica? Now, right around this time, my late teens, my dad, who I told you guys before he's a musician, a lot of you know him actually who listened to this, but my dad started playing this tiny club on Monday nights in Jamaica playing

in Boston called the Brendan Behan. I was around 18 years old at the time. When I say tiny, I mean tiny. This bar is, I think I called it a club. That was a mistake. It was a bar. And no stage. And you had to kind of, if you wanted to go to the bathroom, you had to kind of like walk through the band as they were playing and be careful not to like step on pedals or bump into them. The band was fucking incredible. These nights were incredible. And it was, you had to be 21 to get in. I don't know how I got in, but I got in a lot.

My dad certainly didn't help me get in. He might have said something like, you know, my kid's not drinking. Don't throw them out type of thing. I didn't drink. I was respectful. I got that. I knew that I was putting the liquor license on the line for the working folks, even at that young age.

So anyhow, I was in, got into this bar, to watch this band that my dad had formed. Now, I didn't care what the fuck type of band it was, what kind of music they were playing. I just wanted to be around live music and be around my dad and be around what my dad was doing and creating. And so, you know, this band that my dad had formed

only for these Monday night shows, by the way. It was for this residency. The band was called I-at-Iam brothers, and the musicians in this band were and still are, straight-up assassins. A guy by the name of Jay Bellrose on drums, look Jay up.

He now plays with icons like Robert Plant, Madonna on bass. High Harmony is another dude named Paul Bryan, who's another top-notch guy, produced a bunch of great stuff since then, played with artists like Elvis Costello, Amy Mann, among others. And on guitar, two dudes, two guitarists, one named Kevin Barry, the other named Duke Levine, who to this day are ace-level session in touring guitarists, who will melt your faces when you see them perform.

They're both in Bonnie Rates Band now, by the way. I'm not telling Boston, anyone from Boston, Cambridge, Somerville, knows exactly what I'm talking about. I'm not telling you anything new about these guys, but I'm telling the rest of you because these dudes could and can play any style of music at the highest level.

And the style of music they played with my old man, fronting them, who was singing. The style they all played was country music. That's what the Iodon brothers were, was a country band, okay? in a tiny Irish pub in Boston Mass. Country music, again, in a tiny Irish pub in Jamaica playing in Boston. And, you know, that bar, the Brendan Bean, was just filled to the brim with music heads like you guys, like me.

Again, though, from Boston. Music heads from Boston who showed up to see a little band who only performed on Monday nights in Boston to hear them play incredible country music, songs by George Jones and the Carter family, Conway Twitty, And of course, Merle Haggard. So my dad, who fronted this band, he grew up before punk rock. But he grew up playing in frat houses when he was in high school. His high school band, he actually played like college campuses and frat houses and after high school, the same thing. So, you know, think like his bands then, I'm guessing, were like Sonics, Young Rascals, Kingsman, pre-punk energy is what I'm trying to get at.

It's in my old man's DNA, okay? And he brought that to I-Nyam Brothers show. to this country music. And when I saw it, when I saw my dad playing, I knew what the hell was going on. What I saw was punk rock and this tiny little Irish bar with face-melting guitar solos

and high, lonesome country harmonies. And I realized what I'd been missing about country music, country, rock, pop, punk, even hip-hop. On some level, it's all the same. The difference is that throughout time, As these musical styles evolve, or perhaps a better word, as they refine, they lose that initial energy that sparked the genre in the beginning. Country became huge business in the years after Hank Williams.

Hank Williams took it from violent honky talks to the top of the charts, you know, with Tony Bennett. Same with rock and roll. Those early Beatles hamburgs are about as punk as punk gets. But alas, with success, all that energy gets sucked out, okay? And, you know, the band evolves into Obladee, Oblov, Please Shut the Fuff. up punk rock was a correction that's all it was joe strummer rattling his telecaster and saying to rock and roll hey what the fuck is going on rock and roll hang williams is rolling over in his grave where is the energy guys

so when i first heard country music as a kid there there wasn't any i couldn't identify the energy in it i should say okay and i imagine that if you've never heard classic country music and aren't a fan and are looking to say Morgan wallin or Luke combs you probably feel in the same way you're sitting there saying where's the energy merle haggard that's that's your answer. The answer is with Merle Haggard. And I'm not talking about an exact comp to the punk rock energy or rock and roll energy that you're familiar that you might be familiar with. Three chords played fast with a dude yelling over them into a microphone, but I am talking about the same three chords and the truth type of energy. Even though it ain't fast, it's heavy. Go listen to the fighting side

of me or Tonight the Bottle Let Me Down by Merle Haggard or the image of me by Conway Twitty or you're still on my mind by George Jones and then work your way back in time to Hank Williams and Hank Snow and Letty Friselle. Those dudes were punk before we had a name for it and lived the life they sang about in their songs. Violent, aggressive, transgressive lives filled with B-Bank guitar strings, but also in some cases from behind bars,

as was the case with Merle Haggard. If you're looking for more specific recommendations here to start your love affair with classic country music, because I know you're going to have one just like I did, or perhaps looking for a more specific introduction to Merle Haggard. Hit me up. I'll be much obliged to hook you. you up. 617-906-66-6638 voicemail and text at disgracelam pod on Instagram, Twitter,

Facebook and threads. All right, back after this. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield and in this new season of the girlfriends Oh my God, this is the same man A group of women discover They've all dated the same prolific con artist

I felt like I got hit by a truck I thought how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care So they take matters into their own hands I said oh hell no I vowed I will be his last target He's gonna get what he deserves Listen to the girlfriends

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All right, a bit ago, I asked you guys to call in and text in. Let me know what you guys are into to introduce yourselves. Of course, I wasn't thinking about the fact that I was pre-producing these episodes because of some travel that I have to do. So if you called in, you haven't yet heard a response, be patient. I promise you, it's coming for now, though. I'll dig into a couple of your responses and reply. Like I said before, hit me up, introduce yourselves, tell me a little bit about you. you, what you listen to, when you listen to it, who you want to hear me talk about whatever.

I'm here for it. All right. Let's meet Juba from the 614. Hey, Jake. It's Juba at the 614. You asked what we're into. And I just wanted to just say something. Okay, I'm 62.

I'm not the oldest listener. No, I doubt it. But I have such a vast love of so many different kinds of music. that I'm just so passionate about from the entire last century. I mean, get into the original rockability, you know, and then start listening to some of them in Columbus here. We have some great bands, and I'm not doing this commercially for them, but, you know, there's a band called the Nethmatics, the Whiteouts.

Then you go back to the punk of the 90s with Econo Thugs. All these folks are on Spotify, and they're amazing, and it might open a whole new door. I know the best of different genres. There are. The image clothing store in Athens in the 90s that I met so many amazing people who turned me on the music.

I had no idea was out there. James Addiction, the Cure, public image limited. I mean, come on, Johnny Rotten, right? Viva Lavox, that's some punk ability. That's super amazing. And they're so talented.

You got Orville Peck. He's just amazing. So everybody kind of open your minds, start looking at the genres, start looking at last centuries music from the past people that I love you. I hope this wasn't too long. Well, music makes it better. Thank you, Juba. I doubt you're our oldest listener.

And I appreciate, of course, our listeners of all age. Like you, I am passionate about all types of different music. And I think that's one of the things that yokes us all together here in the disgrace land. universe. I think we all have sort of this, you know, very diverse tastes. And I love the door you're opening into the Midwest punk scene. Thank you. Also, I want to say I was in Athens, Athens, Georgia in the 90s. I wasn't living there, but my band was playing there quite a bit. My drummer at the time, that's where he met his now wife. I was a long, long time ago. It was a special place, and I remember it well. And of course, you mentioned the

cure and pill and I'm going to talk about them a little bit later here in the episode. So stay tuned, Juba. All right. Thanks for calling and introducing yourselves. Guys, call in and introduce yourselves. Let me know what you're into, all right? 617-906-66-36-3-8. All right, let's do some text and meet some more of you guys and hit you guys with some responses. All right, the 716 writes in, Hey there, Jake. I'm a remote accountant who generally listens to your shows the day they are released, but I've been so busy with clients this month. I'm falling behind. Anyway, Thank you for keeping me entertained throughout my work week. That is from Nicole Buffalo, Nicole.

You are welcome. The 7-63 is writing in, hey, Jake, you asked about what your fans like and are listening to, so I thought I would respond. First, I think I have to say we gravitate to the music we loved when we were growing up. I would agree with that. You said how much you grew up on rock, punk, hip-hop, so you naturally gravitate towards it. With that said, right now, I'm listening to Ninja Sex Party for a self-titled album. That's my favorite artist growing up was Weird Al.

Side note, I met Weird Al to meet and greet, and I got to tell him how much I appreciated him for showing me it was okay to be a nerd slash weird when growing up. He seemed genuinely moved and said, thank you. It was very quick, but it was great to meet my hero. Second side note, I think Weird Al-themed April Fool's episode would be great. You know, this is not the first time someone's recommended this. Going back to the text, he says,

Back to the Discussion, Green Day, American Idiot, and Smashing Pumpkins, Melancholy, and Infinite Saddest are two go-to albums. I'm reading The Year of Living Biblically by A.J. Jacobs and just after sunset by Stephen King. Thank you for all you do. I love your podcast. Keep up the great work. Sorry, I forget to say.

This is Keith from the 763. Thanks for the text. Keith from the 763. I want to know about this book, The Year of Living Biblically by A.J. Jacobs. What is that? Text me back and let me know, okay? You know, we got into this,

this age-old question, who invented rock and roll. I can't help but asking. In my book, I make a hard case that it was Chuck Berry. 540 writes in. Rock and roll was invented by Muddy Waters. he invented electricity. I love that.

I think Ben Franklin invented rock and roll. Is that what you're saying? 540. 540 goes on to say, I think it was all of blues that invented rock and roll. Evolution, I believe, I believe in that. Country music had something to do with it too.

Definitely. And from the 815, here we go. Heyya, Tanya, from Chicagoland here. Thanks for your phenomenal pods. They provide hours of entertainment as I drive up and down the west coast of Lake Michigan. When I was 12, I became obsessed with the Manson case After reading Helter Skelter, I ordered the micro-fiche of the LA Times through my middle school library.

Wow, you were obsessed. Text goes on to say, I told some lie about a history project. The libraries were so happy. I was utilizing this resource. Your episodes on the subject opened up what I thought I knew. Hey, this is a great text 815. I appreciate it. I got into Helter Skelter super early, too.

I was 15. Not 12, though. All right, let's meet Tom from the 541 who says, hey, Jake, love the show. I'm Tom. I'm a seed farmer. in southern Oregon. I listen to you while I farm. Favorite rap band is the coop from Oakland.

Music is a huge part of my life for me. We'd like to recommend two bands for you. Graveyard, classic metal from Sweden, and Riviver. River, River, Riviver, Rivivr. R-V-I-V-R? Amazing pop punk from Olympia. Unfortunately, not together anymore.

Enjoy. Peace. All right, Tom. Thanks, dude. Appreciate this. So from the 9-17. Got this one here. It says, hey, Jake, so back in my high school days

in Brooklyn, New York. My friends and I ran into Peter Steele one night. Peter Steele from typo negative. I'm adding that part. Me and my friends ran into Peter Steele one night when he was getting some pizza in our neighborhood. That is so New York. I love this. He was super cool and gracious to some Rando kids and totally made me love everything he did even more.

I love that 917. Thank you. I don't know if you guys can hear that or not. That is from the 401. That is from the 412 sending me a video. Looks like they're at the Dead & Company show. Thank you, 412. I'm trying to make heads or tails of your text here,

and I just, I can't. I don't know what the hell you're talking. It was a lot of text here. But, yeah, I understood the video. All right, let's keep rolling here. Like I said, I do these in real time. This one from the plus 6-1, this being a international texter.

It says, as one of your favorite band said, who created rock and roll, easy answer, Tchaikoski, ACDC, let there be rock. I don't know what you're answering there, but thank you. The 719 writing in Brighton from the 719, although I live in the 970, soon to be the 253. Just wanted to say that the Far Side album, Bazaar Ride to the Far Side, is one of my favorite most influential 90s hip-hop albums. I would agree with that statement.

This text going back to a conversation we had a little bit ago about, I'm assuming this is when we were talking about the greatest rap groups of all time. All right, the 817, right since says, Hi, I'm Robin, and I live in Conway, Arkansas. I'm currently obsessed with Speak Now, Taylor's version, even though I'm a middle-aged woman. This Taylor phenomenon, something else. Robin goes on to say, I admire how she's reclaiming her own. Your episode on her is incredible.

I listen to it twice. Love your show. I like to listen when I'm walking. I get lost in the stories, and I'm grateful for that. Thanks for what you do. Thank you, Robin. Thanks for what you do. Thanks for listening.

I appreciate that. Let's see here. Let's see. The 4-8-0 writes in. Love the podcast. Listen into it now with my snack. Looks like a one-hitter, weed, tall boy Estella, and a book. Is that a gorvey dot?

What is I have to blow this up? No, great. The Swiss family, whatever the fuck. Robinson, is that what that is? The illustrated version. Well, there you go. All right, 4-8-0. Thanks for that photo.

All right, the 859 writes in. Jake, I discovered disgrace land in the early days. I painted the inside of my. entire house while on a disgrace land binge. It kept me sane and entertained. The theme music would always take me back to that time. I would love to hear an episode on Rush. Best Regards, Joe from Kentucky.

Love it, Joe. Right on, man. Thank you. 503, hello. I came across your podcast because I was looking for Beatles podcasts and your episodes on them came up. Love the episodes on them. They're my favorite group ever,

and the rest of your podcast is amazing as well. Thanks, 503. We've got another Beatles thing we're working on right now, which I'm pretty excited about. Uh, 317 writes in, yo, Jake, John from Indy here, just catching up on the after party in the rap top 10. Can't believe no mention a House of Pain. House of Pain, top 10. I don't know if Larry David agrees with that.

Uh, let's go. Let's see what else he says here. John goes on to say, you sure you're a mass guy? Lull. What's your go-to local heavy band? You a hate-breed guy. Barry you're dead. I know they're not hardcore, but Seameless was a killer band out there.

Love your Pots. Peace, man. Are you testing my fucking Massachusetts heavy music knowledge? You realize I was signed to victory records at one time John from Indy? I'm not gonna fucking I'm not gonna stoop to answer your question John

Let's move on here What else we got here? 7-03 I always consider myself a huge music fan Open to a lot of different stuff Guys when you're introducing yourself You have to tell me your names 703 Just right into it

I kind of love that though I always consider myself a huge music fan Open to a lot of different stuff Your show has expanded my horizons even more growing up in New Jersey. In the 80s, 90s, I thought I was a huge Bruce Springsteen fan since I went all the way back to the river. I never would have considered Nebraska because people in New Jersey called it country, which

I couldn't do. Wow, there we go. All right. Lately Bruce's Nebraska album has been one of the things I've been enjoying the most. Thanks for opening my eyes even more. Keep it up. You rock. You got it at 703.

I'm going to end it there because that one is apropos to the classic country theme we're on in this bonus episode. So thank you. Where was that from? 7.03, I forget, but whoever texted that in. Thanks. Guys, hit me up. Introduce yourselves, all right? 617-906-66-6638. Let me know what you're into, what you're listening to, how you got into Disgraceland, what you want to hear me doing in storytelling, what you want me to hear me,

what kind of different stories you want, even maybe outside of Disgraceland. Let me know, all right. At Disgraceland pod on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, and the like. I would be a bad creator if I did not engage with you guys here on some of these DMs. There's a lot and I've been slow to respond this week. All right from Ryan Burnham says, hey, long-time listener and fellow New England

or a hardcore punk rock kid growing up. We had a great scene in Portsmouth, New Hampshire back in the day. But that's besides the point. My favorite all-time band is Black Sabbath. We ever do an episode about them. Oh, come on, Ryan. We've done one.

Got a Black Sabbath episode in the archive. Got another episode on Ozzie as well. All right. Heather Dill writes saying, Hey, Jake and everyone at Disgraceland, I'm a long time listener and love your podcast. And today I was listening to The After Party where you asked for stories about meeting your rock stars,

made me think about meeting my musical hero or wondering if you could ever do a podcast on my favorite band, Pearl Jam, Zeth Lundy. Are you listening to this? I've often thought when listening that it would be a less interesting than some stories because, for the most part, the band is clean, steady, loyal, and stands up for good causes.

Not to mention that they are still putting out killer music and live shows. You know, oh, actually, let's see here, Heather just has this quick little anecdote about meeting Eddie Vedder. So here's my story about meeting Eddie Vedder. Charlotte, North Carolina, 1996. I helped register voters,

got invited backstage where I met the whole band. What? Including Eddie, asked him for a hug, and he shyly complied. And then we got a pick with my disposable camera, but I could not develop it due to the film being exposed. Now that is a disgrace. Heather, I'm working on a way

to bring you stories about bands that did not get embroiled in crimes. We're trying to figure that out. So appreciate your text, actually your DM. All right, at Graceland Pod, you guys want to DM me. I'm going to take a quick break. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl.

You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girl. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of The Girlfriends, Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me?

The cops didn't seem to care, so they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed, I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the Girlfriends. Trust me, babe. on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Remember when you'd walk into your local video rental place and there were always those two employees behind the counter arguing about movies?

Well, that's us. I'm Millie de Cherico. And I'm Casey O'Brien. And now we're arguing about movies on our podcast, Dear Movies I Love You, from the Exactly Right Network. Can I say something about the Criterion Clause? Go ahead, dude. They're letting too many people in there. Okay. That's another film grape I got two. Sadly, that rental place doesn't exist anymore. It's probably a store that sells running shoes. Or an ice cream shop with an extra pee and an E at the end.

So consider us your slacker movie clerks in podcast form. I would like to establish a timeline of the moment you figured out who Channing Tatum was. Every Tuesday, we dig into the movies we can't stop obsessing over it. From hidden gems to big screen favorites. New episodes drop every week on the exactly right network. Listen to Dear Movies I Love You on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Kate Winkler Dawson, host of the Wicked Words podcast. Each week I sit down with the true crime writers behind some of the most compelling true crime stories

and discuss their years spent investigating and why it still matters. He sees his father coming out of the woods with his hands over his face, and he knows something happened. His father just grabs him and says she's gone. She's gone. These are the cases that leave survivors, families, and the journalists who cover them changed forever. Working in national television, it'll push you to your limits, and you'll end up doing things you never thought you'd do. You know, you look back at it and you're like, I can't believe that really happened. Join me and step inside the investigation.

New episodes drop every Monday on the Exactly Right Network. Listen to Wicked Words on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The recommendations part. This is the recommendations part. The part where we recommend the things that need recommending the recommendations part. What I've been listening to so well literally as I was sitting there getting my notes together to come in here and record. There's this Chicago video on in the background with Peter Satera. That's the guy's name, right? Singer wearing a fucking Bauhaus t-shirt. Um, is this the final straw that causes me to take Chicago seriously? Aye, aye, aye, aye, aye. All right, there's also some chick in this video who looks just like Madonna. What's happening?

What is going on here? Uh, that's, that's what I need to know. I don't know. I, you know, I hear Chicago sometimes, guys, and I'm just like, this is the most painful, uh, vanilla. Just, I can't deal. And then I hear some of it and I'm just like, this is incredible. I love this. I'm rolling the windows down.

I'm driving a little faster than I should be. I don't know. I don't know. I'm not willing to accept Chicago yet. I'm not there. Okay? All right. So what I'm listening to, aside from the classic country inspired by Merle Haggard that we

talked about earlier, I'm still on this post-punk kick from the New Order episode a couple weeks back or a week back, I should say. We talked about the biggest post-punk bands post-1980. We opened it up to the 90s. So here's my top five list, along with one record each, for ease of listening. The greatest English post-punk group for me is, without question, number one, the cure. And if you're going to name one cure record, for me, it's disintegration. I know the purists are cringing right now, but hey, I could have said wish.

I almost did. All right. Okay. Number two, second greatest English post-punk band of all time. Oasis. You can probably argue the number one, but their album, What's the Story, Morning Glory? That's definitely the record. I can make a case, like I said, for Oasis in the number one slot,

but my personal preference won out. I guess in some weird way. I don't know that we get Oasis without the cure. I'm not sure what I mean by that exactly, but I'm at least 50% committed to that take. Number three, third-greatest post-punk British group, Smiths. just the Smiths, the Smiths, and the Smiths. And the album, for me, I'm going to cheat here, louder than bombs.

I know it's unfair because it's a compilation, but it is nonetheless a staggering document of unrivaled originality and genius and Morrissey fucking rules. Okay, number four, it pains me to say this. I feel like I'm losing my rock and roll cred by saying this. Like, I should get my fucking cool card revoked because I'm such a fucking dork. But I think this quote unquote cool band is actually so. So uncool. In my gut.

They are a big bag of dorks, and I can't stand that I like them so much. But they're so fucking good. And their first three albums are so damn influential. All right. Enough qualifiers. Who am I talking about? Radiohead. There.

I said it. Fucking kill me now. But it's radiohead in the four spot. OK, computer, is that good. The bends. Amazing. Even Pablo Honey. Also, great.

That said, their whole vibe, their whole creative vibe, I should say, is so relentlessly pretentious that they border on not even being rock and roll to me, but forget it, whatever. Number five, Public Image Limited. Pill, love you, John Liden. You might be the greatest rock and roll singer of all time. I literally can't pick one album. And this is made harder because some of their greatest efforts came pre-1980,

but you can't say post-punk and not say John Liden, all right? So there you have it. The five greatest post-punk British rock bands of all time. Number one, The Cure. Number two, Oasis. Number three, the Smiths. number four radio head number five pill public image limited all right my heart is breaking for blur right now breaking breaks my heart the blur isn't on this list but hey dem's the break see what i did

there also if someone doesn't threaten to punch me in the face for leaving primal screen off this list are we even rock and roll speaking of english groups i just caught the video to the jesus and mary chain sometimes always i know they're not english they're scottish but it's still the uk or it was i don't know what it is anymore whatever the video with Hope from Massey Star. That video is fucking awesome. It's great. Good looking people doing good looking shit.

Can we talk music movies again? I'm working on my list of top five music movies of all time as prompted by the TCM bumper. We're almost famous. We talked about this a little bit ago. Breaking news, I don't think Almost Famous is the greatest music movie of all time. What are your top five music movies of all time?

Doesn't have to be a music biopic, okay? Very key. Does not have to be a biopic. It just has to be a movie. that is set in the world of music or is about music, okay? Hit me up. 617-906-66-6638 at Disgraceland Pod on social media. Hit me and hit me hard, and I'll be back in a flash to recap.

All right, let's recap, shall we? Number one, Merle Haggard is the latest episode of Disgraceland in your feeds right now. Number two, got a new Roman Polansky episode this week in the Badlands feed. Number three, next week in the Disgracedland feed, it is Sonny Rollins. For my number is 617-906-66-66-36-3-8. Call me on the telephone or text me. All right, in honor of me right now, being exhausted after recording two episodes today, writing another one, being late for dinner.

I'm going to read you the first vintage phone book I can find, and it is from, where's it from, where's it from, where's it from? I don't know where this is from. Oh, New York City in 1920. Here we go. Arena, Dr. John. 2156 Bathgate Ave, Fordham, 4141. Arndt, FJ, 165 Broadway, Cortland, 0940.

Arendes, Catherine, MD, 178 West 97, Riverside, 0570, Arendt, E, 156, West 86, Schuller, 286, Aaron, Edward and Sine. Leaftown, 151 water, John, 1635. Arenz, Ares, Ait, Lave, Fatathe, Fagin, 142, John, 47, 47, Arenz, Missa, West 8. Talking and start mixing.

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Trust me, babe. On the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When, like, young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever. And my first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? Rather be disappointed in. Do that.

David O'Yelloo. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Dennis Leary, Gaten Matarazzo from Stranger Things, Tana Mangeou, Camilla Morone, Carrie Kenny Silver, and more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the On I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Movies can make you feel, make you dream. Sometimes they even make you appreciate architecture. Is there anybody who's been hotter in a doorway than Elizabeth Taylor?

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