DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode: Freak Offs, Great Television, and a Waitress in the Sky

Episode Date: September 19, 2024

This week in the After Party, Jake gets into the latest news on the indictment and arrest of Sean "Diddy" Combs, the greatest television shows of all time, and of course, your emails, DMs, texts, and voicemails. As we prepare for next week's episode on Sigourney Weaver, Jake is looking for your recommendations on the best space/alien themed movies –let Jake know at 617-906-6638, [e-mail], or on socials @disgracelandpod.For more great Disgraceland episodes, dive into our extensive archive, including such episodes as:Episode 155 - Sean "Diddy" CombsEpisode 130 - Justin BieberEpisode 129 - Bruce Springsteen's Nebraska Purchase Tickets for Disgraceland's Special Live Stream Event on Oct. 9, 2024:https://www.moment.co/disgraceland/disgraceland-we-are-not-alone-music-wont-save-us-but-tom-delonge-mightTo hear an extended version of the After Party and to hear more from the DISGRACELAND community, become a Disgraceland All Access member at disgracelandpod.com/membership.Visit www.disgracelandpod.com/merch to see the latest Disgraceland merch!Sign up for our newsletter and get the inside dirt on events, merch and other awesomeness - GET THE NEWSLETTERFollow Jake and DISGRACELAND:InstagramYouTubeX (formerly Twitter) Facebook Fan Group To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, Discos, need a little more disgrace land in your life? Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the After Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode. A little thing we like to call The After Party.

This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. On this bonus episode, we are talking about this week's subject to the Disgraceland Full episode, Matthew Perry, the greatest television shows in history,

a wild and disgraceful indictment. And of course, we are diving into your voicemails, texts, and more. And as always, a whole lot of rosy. All right, this goes, let's get. They said the musician was one of the most successful of not only his generation, but of any generation. And they said the heights he'd reached would never be reached by other musicians who came from his background.

They said the style he pioneered was made iconic because of him. They said he lifted up other artists. They said he was charitable, politically active. They said a lot about this musician. They also said he was a rapist, a kidnapper, an arsonist, an extortionist. It was almost like they were trying to say he was a racketeer, a gangster on par with the Gotties and the Capones, or at least the Epstein's and the Weinsteins.

And they said he was the leader of a criminal enterprise. And they said all of this two days ago, on September 17th about Sean Diddy Combs. They, of course, are the feds, and Sean Combs is, of course, fucked. On Monday night, September 16th, Combs settled into his five-star hotel on the Upper West Side, the Park Hyatt Hotel, no doubt enjoying his beautiful view of Central Park, among the many other luxury amenities that the five-star hotel offers, where, depending on your mood, you can relax in their indoor pool or enjoy, quote,

unmatched culinary excellence, unquote, at the hotel's 57th Street restaurant, or you can just unwind in your luxury suite sporting heated natural stone flooring and custom furnishings by Yabu Pusselberg, whoever the hell that is. So, you know, we can imagine that on Monday night, that's what Sean Combs was doing. He was in New York, waiting it out, as his lawyer put it, getting ready to surrender himself to authorities once the indictment came down. Combs travels to New York because he knows he's going to get indicted. Okay, he knows it's coming.

And by going to New York and not making the feds come to him in Florida or wherever, apparently this is supposed to curry favor with the prosecutors, with the judge, with whoever. But something very, very bad happened. The feds didn't give a shit, okay? Combs is at his luxury hotel, chilling Monday night, 8 o'clock, little after 8. he has to suffer the humiliation of an arrest. The feds come and they get him. And he spends a night in the huskow.

And in the morning, he appears before the judge or the next day. He's in his sweatpants. He's in his t-shirt. I guess the same stuff he was wearing at the hotel when they came and they got him. So the indictment gets unsealed. And, you know, nobody really in the courtroom was shocked. Everyone knew this was coming. The judge, on the other hand, seemed a little shocked from what I've read.

Okay. She took a very hard view of Sean Combs's so-called cooperation to this point, up against the horrific crimes that he was accused of in the indictment. If you haven't read the indictment, I'm going to explain the more incredible parts of it here. This is worth getting into, it's worth looking up, okay? It's written in a wild way. The indictment claims Combs forced female guests of his legendary parties named by him, we can only presume that to be freakoffs,

which if you've been on TikTok in the last eight months, you've heard of these, these freakoffs where Combs, again, alleged in the indictment to force female guests, you have sex with male prostitutes at these parties. These parties lasted days. They were allegedly fueled by copious amounts of illegal drugs and greased quite literally by, quote, 1,000 bottles of baby oil.

That's a lot of fucking baby oil. All right. It's further alleged in this indictment, that Combs masturbated while this is all going on and he participated in four sex acts during these parties and that he of course videotaped these events. I apologize. You might be able to hear my dog in the background there, nozzling up against my feet. So we can gather from the indictment that the videos that Sean Combs made of these parties, the videos that he kept of his guests having sex with prostitutes were used as a way.

of controlling his guests or his victims, depending on how you want to categorize him. Top line, the indictment accuses Combs of running a criminal enterprise of violating the man act, which is what they got Chuck Barry on back in the day. It's essentially human trafficking. But the devil for Sean Combs, who might be the devil himself, the devil is in the details here. This indictment is incredibly specific. And that means a couple different things. I'm no legal scholar. I'm not pretending to be one. My information comes from information that smarter people than me put out there,

and I sort of aggregate it and I give it to you guys. And one of the things I've learned in the last 24, 48 hours about this indictment is that the federal government, when they're about to bring somebody to trial, they don't risk losing. Okay? If they think they're going to lose a case, they'll take another route. They won't go through the humiliation and the cost, actually, first, the cost of mounting a case like this against the business.

billionaire who has all the resources on the planet, they won't risk that and then risk getting humiliated by losing. So in other words, they're only going to bring somebody to trial like this if they really got them. And you can tell, back to the specificity of the indictment, you can tell from the indictment that they really got them because the specifics are crazy. The other thing that the specificity of the document does is, I'm going to read you this quote, and then I'm going to tell you what I think it means, okay? So the indictment claims that, quote, members and associates of the Combs Enterprise, including high-ranking supervisors, security staff, household staff, personal assistance,

and other Combs business employees, facilitated the freak-offs by, among other things, booking hotel rooms for the freak-offs, stocking the hotel rooms in advance with the required freak-off supplies, including controlled substances, baby oil, lubricant, extra linens, And lighting, you got to have good lighting guys. I mean, come on, lighting is so important. I mean, I've never been to a freak off, but, you know, lighting matters. I know this. Anyways, that's the quote, not the stuff about the lighting.

I mean, the lighting is in the quote, but not the shit I added there about the lighting at the end. And what that quote means is that the feds are signaling that they are aware of the involvement of other culpable individuals. Okay? And these, from how they describe these individuals, these seem to me to be working class. individuals, okay, labor, staff, not management, except maybe some, what do they say here, Combs business employees, I read that as people who worked for him and his record label. In any event, again, they're signaling, the feds are signaling that they are aware of the involvement of other culpable individuals and will be posing a very important question to them.

And that question will be, do you want to be a defendant in this trial or do you want to be a witness? Okay. Now, I don't want to pretend that I got to that question on my own because, again, I'm not a legal scholar. That's not my insight. I heard a prosecuting attorney on a cable news show, give that take. But I went in and I read the actual indictment. I read the document and because that take was like, wow, okay, shit. The feds are really going forward here.

And this is how lawyers talk to each other on paper a lot of times. And the charges on paper here, they're just astounding. Multiple acts of violence, including choking, people kidnapping, even arson. The arson part, I didn't get too far with that. I can't help but think that the arson charge is in relation to the Kid Cuddy allegation where it's been intimated. The Diddy blew up Cuddy's car over Diddy's jealousy of Cuddy surrounding his girlfriend at the time, Cassie Ventura. Like most people, I learned about the Cuddy thing on TikTok. After the Diddy news broke yesterday, I spent a good portion of the afternoon girding myself to log on to TikTok.

Diddy TikTok is a wormhole that it is hard to crawl out of. I've been in deep and it's gross. And let me just tell you, it takes a while for the baby oil to fully wash off. There's all these rumors, all this conjecture. There are deep fakes. There's some video evidence that is actually pretty compelling from these parties. I'm not going to go on record by saying that I believe in some of this stuff. It's wild, okay?

And the conspiracy theories are banana. and they go in a gazillion different directions. The conjecture is beyond crazy. That said, at every step of this story since I've been following it, since I think we're talking back at the end of 2023, is when the Cassie Ventura lawsuit news broke, and then the settlement happened. And then there was the raid,

and then there was the Cassie tape. Okay, so there's been a lot of inflection points so far in what hasn't even been a full calendar year around this story. And since it's been out there, I've been following it like a lot of you have. And a lot of the details, a lot of the conspiracy, a lot of the news, a lot of the conjecture, a lot of it is truly astounding.

That's said at every step of this story. Every time there seems to be new news that comes out, there are facts, there are nuggets that are, validated in certain ways that they were not before. And before I give you the value of that, the sort of mind fuck of it is that, you know, it kind of makes you go back and go, huh, well, if this is true, if we know this to be true now, then who's to say that that that shit crazy thing that this is related to that I read about in the deep, dark corner of the internet isn't true?

You know, so I'm not saying some of those stories are valid, but what I am saying is we're going to find out. And I wasn't so sure of that before a couple days ago. Before that this indictment came down. I thought that Diddy might have been working on some sort of deal, something to get himself out of trouble. But it doesn't look like that's going to happen. And I think the breaking point might have been that that horrific video of Diddy beating Cassie that came out a couple months ago. And, you know, the judge in court yesterday cited that video when denying Sean Combs bail, making the case that Combs is not to be trusted. The judge straight up said, you know, you said you didn't beat her.

And the video clearly proves that you did. So you're a liar. So why should we trust you not to be a flight risk? So no, no bail for you. So Sean Combs is off to Brooklyn's Metropolitan Detention Center, 1,200 hardened criminals jammed into what is described to be a deteriorating facility, a real jail, okay, where Sean Combs is no longer Sean Combs. is no longer Sean Combs.

He's no longer Puff, Puff Daddy, Diddy, Brother Love. He's no longer the iconic hip-hop mogul. He's just prisoner number 37452-0664, and he's being held in a jail known for its violent murders and frequent suicides. This jail is overcrowded. This jail is understaffed. This jail is known by prison officials to be a, quote, unquote, hell on earth.

This is where Combs will remain until and throughout his trial, unless I think he's appealing the no bail, but I don't have much faith that he's going to win on that. So, okay, obviously, he's in jail now, but there's a trial coming. And obviously this isn't the end of the story. We're going to hear so much more about this story as the case unfolds, goes without saying in any case, but I'm telling you, if you haven't been paying attention to the story, the details are

beyond wild. And some of them, some of them, you know, every now and then you run into a story and you're like, that is so crazy, nobody can make that up. And there's a lot of that going on here. And we're going to find out. We're going to find out. And up and until a couple days ago, I didn't think we were. Okay?

Crazy. Just crazy. You know, there's no, there's no, I don't see a way for Diddy to get out of this. There's no bigger fish for him to trade up to reach some bargain. But, you know, I guess devil's advocate on the other side, I can't imagine the federal government. I can't imagine the feds allowing what we already know about these incredibly sort of details to go public. Not just about Diddy, but about the numerous boldface guests who attended his parties,

Will Smith, Jamie Fox, Justin Bieber, Kim Kardashian. And I'm just giving you the ones that are like already out there in the ether. There's a whole other list of very, very, very. very powerful people. Okay, we just went through this whole thing with Epstein. And, you know, there's so much smoke and so much noise around the people who are hanging out with Epstein. This is very similar, but I can tell you from what I've learned, it seems far more damning.

I mean, video, right? But who knows? Who knows? Maybe the super famous are super clean. Maybe the worst of this story just involves sea list celebrities. trying to stay in a billionaire music mogul's orbit and doing whatever that manipulative, criminal, disgraceful mogul forced them to do. Either way, we're going to find out over the coming months and I am excited to get into these details with you here in disgrace land. I don't

yet know how, but we're going to do that for sure. Anyways, that's enough on Diddy. Next week, next week, get an episode on Sigourney Weaver coming your way. Okay, I love Sigourney Weaver. Who doesn't? Alien. I mean, come on. incredible movie. I just watched Prometheus. I was blown away. Another otherworldly film by Ridley Scott set in space. So as you're listening to the Sigourney Weaver episode, be thinking about, you know, obviously alien. We've all seen alien, I think. But, you know, the whole UFO, alien, ufology thing is new to me. I've talked to some of you guys about it. It's a new obsession of mine. I've been reading a lot about it. I haven't been watching a lot of

movies. I watched Prometheus a couple weeks ago. I loved it. It was fucking great. I know that's sort of in the alien world, the alien franchise. But any other, alien, other world, the extraterrestrial, don't give me the basics, don't give me ET, don't give me Star Wars, any other alien movies that you've loved, that you've loved to watch, that I should watch.

Send me some wrecks. Okay, that's the question of the week. What are the best alien movies out there? I want to know. Let me know. Hit me up. 617-9066638. Leave me a voicemail.

Send me a text or DM me at Discraceland Pod on Instagram, X. Facebook. I'm going to take a quick break. I'll be back in a flash with the answers from last week's question of the week. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield. And in this new season of the girlfriends, oh my God, this is the same man. a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck.

I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends.

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All right, let's hear from you guys. Let's check in with the 9-17. Hey, Jake, I just got to tell you that I've been listening for a long time. I've subscribed at one point. Sorry, money's tight right now. But I'm listening to the Matthew Perry episode. and all the time that you took to explain and really hammer home the insane battle that it is to recover from opioid addiction. It made me cry.

I listened to the episode. I had to stop halfway through. When you stop talking about that, that's when I had to call to let you know that it really made me cry. because I've been there. And, you know, I Sue and Dave Harma, one of those people, everything that you're talking about. You know, these drugs weren't addictive

back then. It was an insane uphill battle. And it was one of the hardest things I've ever done, and I can gain strength from that moving forward. But one thing I want to ask you is, what about an Elliot Smith episode? Elliot Smith was murdered. He would be perfect.

Take care of that. Hey man, I appreciate the voicemail. Thank you for calling, of course. Thank you for listening to. As I kind of mentioned in the Matthew Perry episode, I thought that I knew a lot about opiate addiction, but in researching Matthew, really in reading his book, which I highly recommend is autobiography,

I obviously learned a lot more. He has a way of describing his personal relationship with the drug that, for whatever reason, hit me in a different way than any of the research that I'd done prior on any of these other subjects. I also watched the series Dopesick with Michael Keaton during this time that I was researching the Matthew Perry episode of Disgraceland, which if anyone hasn't seen it, I highly recommend it. If you don't want to be outraged, though, don't watch it. But yeah, just thanks for your call.

Thanks for listening. As for Elliot Smith, I'd love to cover this story, but it's one of those stories we just can't talk about. and I can't really say much more than that. All right, let's check in with the 978. Jake, Nate from the 978. Just listening to Matthew Perry episode. Seinfeld didn't change the way people talk.

Really? Really? I think you might want to revisit that one, my friend. Have a good one, rockerola. First of all, 978, I can hear that Massachusetts steeped piss and vinegar in the tone of your voice. And I got to say, I love it. I'm here for it.

Second, how did Seinfeld changed the way people talk. I don't remember people walking around talking like Jerry or Kramer. Maybe catch phrases, of course. Maybe quoting funny lines, funny quips, but nothing like the Chandler Bing thing where people literally started phrasing things

like the character. How do you not know what I'm talking about? I didn't really do it justice, but that's, you know, see what I'm saying? Anyways, call me back, prove me wrong, but be nice, okay? Even though you're from Massachusetts, be nice. All right, on last.

week's question of the week, prompted by Matthew Perry, obviously, big television star, star of friends. Last week's question of the week, what is the greatest television show of all time? We've got a lot of incoming on this one. So first of all, thank you. Second of all, I'm going to cruise through a bunch of these quickly and then respond at the end. The 720 writes, Freaks and Geeks 630 Texan mash because of the emotional range. 646, Texan Simps. Freaks and Geeks. Okay, freaks and geeks, incredible. I don't think there's a lot of a bad episode the entire series. And how many seasons did they do? Two? Was it two? Freaks and Geeks got canceled, which is incredible, incredible to me. Love that show. Loved it then. Love it now. I love what

it spawned. The whole Judd-Apital universe, Seth Rogan, and everyone else who came out of that show, just incredible. So, freaks and geeks, big place in my heart. However, best television show ever? I don't think so. MASH. I cannot believe how many texts I got from you guys on MASH. makes me feel like I'm missing something. I'm obviously too young to have seen MASH when it was out. I've seen the movie. I've of course seen the television show, but I've never really watched it, watched it.

Maybe I'll check it out. A lot of texts on The Simpsons, okay? I'm not a Simpsons guy. If it's on, I'll watch an episode here and there, but I've never been sucked in by it. I don't know why, maybe because it's animated and that's not really my thing. But somehow my kids, my 10-year-old and my 6-year-old,

got onto The Simpsons in the last year. And I started to notice their attitudes really changed quickly. Their attitudes started to suck. They got really cynical all of a sudden. And I don't let them watch The Simpsons anymore, the Simpsons anymore. And things have changed for the better. But to me, guys, there's only one answer here.

And the answer is the Sopranos. Sopranos is the best television show ever in the history of television. And that's my opinion. And it's a fact. No, I'm kidding. I did receive a lot of DMs, a lot of texts, people who agree with me on this. And I just coincidentally this week started watching the David Chase documentary on HBO. And the first episode weirdly made me emotional, which I did not expect. And I still don't really know why. I think it has something to do with just how personal the story was to David Chase, how much of his point of view is. in that story and how huge of a risk he took as a creative person, as a director, as a showrunner, to input into the storytelling, very, very unconventional ways of making television to get his point of view across. And I think that's why we all fell in love with it. If you weren't there at the time, if you're too young, it's perhaps unknowable just how revolutionary that show was at the time when it came out.

but it really, it was like, it was like, I don't even know. I don't know what a good comp is. I really don't. It was a real moment in culture, though, where you couldn't escape it. And the praise was nearly universal. It was incredible. And we were all, it was before streaming. So we were all just, you know, waiting for Sunday.

You know, Sunday was about making, making a big meal, get ready for the Sopranos, sitting down and just being super fucking bummed when it was over. So that's my answer. I've probably watched the Sopranos series in its entirety at least three or four times. Probably more, actually, if I'm being honest. And there's a few other television shows that approach, that creatively approach that rare air that the Sopranos do. Or the Sopranos did, I should say. Breaking Bad and Mad Men are two that come to mind right off the top of my head. But Breaking Bad and Mad Men came after the Sopranos.

So I give the nod to the Sopranos there for coming first. And then, of course, there's the wire, which it's almost like Sopranos is one, and the wire is 1A for me. I've never seen a television show before or since, like the wire, which says a lot. And in a lot of ways that the creative of the Sopranos was revolutionary, and a lot of ways that they took chances, they did similar things in their own way for the wire. But the wire never had the cultural impact that Sopranos had.

So I give it to the Sopranos, barely. Just a smidge. Anyways, I appreciate all the info on this, the incoming, the text, the voicemails, all of it. I love this topic. We're all huge television fans, obviously. At Austinite on X, writes, disgraceland pod, favorite show.

Any of the real sex episodes, It's pilot through 23. That is amazingly specific, Austinite. Oh, then it goes on to say, just kidding. That show is so disappointing. Maybe Californication, Dexter, or Rick and Morty. Can't forget Twilight Zone.

Yes, you can't. Twilight Zone is pretty revolutionary. Got to admit. Fantastic. Snickerbockers writes Texan on X, I should say, yeah, mentions on X. Star Trek, a lot of Star Trek from you guys. Star Trek is one of those shows I never got into.

I'm feeling like I got to give it a shot. Lots on X about Star Trek and lots on Sopranos. Damian Pitcon writes, and hey, to me, it has to be the three seasons of Twin Peaks. The reason is that it's funny, scary, cheerful, sad, comfortable, creepy, down to earth, surreal, cute, horrific, compelling, repulsive, satisfying, yet endlessly mysterious and unfulfilling. It is the work of a director of peerless technique and talent and also a hopelessly lost captainless mess, as in the second half of season two. It is. And I hate to interrupt the email here, but that's kind of why I can't put Twin Peaks at the top of the best television show Mountain because those non-David-Lynch episodes are just awful. And Twin Peaks, for all the incredible stuff that it did do, it never really did capture the culture the way that the Sopranos did. Email goes on to say, and I'll finish here.

It also became endlessly deeper and more complex, endearing and harrowing in season three. what other show gave us so much? Well, I gave you a couple examples there, Damien. You'll have to go back. But, yeah, I just wanted to read that because I feel like I got to mention Twin Peaks because it's just fucking awesome. But not the best.

Not the best. Not the best. Okay. All right, Don writes in on email. You guys want email me, disgrace,impot.com. She writes in, hey, Jake, firstly, I want to say how much I love the podcast,

so much interesting stories. It is also inspired me to listen many artists, I never would like Wu-Tang Clan. The Replacements episode brought up a lot of memories of Minneapolis from when I lived there as a flight attendant for Northwest Airlines. I was on a layover in Amsterdam and around 2000 was having a drink with a senior flight attendant named Julie and she said, you know, my brother is a rock star. I'm like, really? What's his name? She said, Paul Westerberg. I hate to say this, but I had no idea who was at the time. And she proceeded to tell me, waitress in the sky was about her. Of course, after that, I discovered the

replacements. She said Paul used to travel on her companion passes with purple hair, jeans, and a skinny black tie, totally high. I also had Soul Asylum and Semi-Sonic on flight several times. Really nice guys. Anyway, sorry for the long email, but I felt inspired to share. Thanks again for the great content. You got it, Dawn. Thanks again for the great email. I should just say thanks for the great email. A lot of emails, guys. I really appreciate it. I obviously can't read all of them on air, but I do read them. all, okay, if that makes sense. And I appreciate it. You can email me. You can also leave reviews. As you know, we love the reviews. You guys want to support the show. I often get asked,

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There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends... Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist.

I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends.

Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When, like, young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever. And my first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? Rather be disappointed in.

Do that. Dennis Leary. I wake up and I'm hitting him in the head with a water bomb. And Bruce Jenner is on the aisle in a karate stance. Like he's about to attack me. Like, making karate noises. And his entire the Kardashian family over there, everybody's going. And the airman.

is trying to grab my arms and screaming. I immediately know that I've been at sleepwalking. David O'Yellowo. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Guy Branham. So anyway, Nicole Kidman broke up with Keith Thurban.

Being half of a country couple was always a hat she was going to wear, not like a life she was going to lead. Oh, interesting. I like that. Did you practice that on your way over? Gaten Madarazzo from Stranger Things. Tana Monsu. Camilla Marone, Carrie Kenny Silver, and more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the Iheart Radio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Remember when you'd walk into your local video rental place and there were always those two employees behind the counter arguing about movies? Well, that's us. I'm Millie de Cherico. And I'm Casey O'Brien. And now we're arguing about movies on our podcast, Dear Movies I Love You, from the Exactly Right Network. Can I say something about the Criterion Clause? Go ahead, dude.

They're letting too many people in there. Okay, that's another film grape I got two. Sadly, that rental place doesn't exist anymore. It's probably a store that sells running shoes. Or an ice cream shop with an extra pee and an E at the end. So consider us your slacker movie clerks in podcast form. I would like to establish a timeline of the moment you have. figured out who Channing Tatum was.

Every Tuesday, we dig into the movies we can't stop obsessing over, from hidden gems to big screen favorites. New episodes drop every week on the exactly right network. Listen to Dear Movies I Love You on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, I am back. But before we wrap up, before we get out of here, you guys, go get your tickets to the Disgraceland Livestream event on October 9th.

Go to moment.com slash disgraceland. We are not alone. That is the title of the show. And I hope you were there. I hope we are all together, all right? I'm about to get out of here. But before I do, before next week's episode on Sigourney Weaver,

the question of the week is going to be, what are your recommendations for best alien movies? Be thinking about that when you're listening to Sigourney and Disgraceland, okay? Best space movies. Don't have to just be aliens. It's a space, okay? I'm into this stuff at this point in my life.

It's about time, right? Let me know. So in this episode, we mentioned Diddy, of course. We have a Diddy episode in the archives. that deals with 1990s, Sean Combs, Puff Daddy back then, the nightclub shooting, all that, J-Lo. And that episode came out like,

it was like a day before or after the Cassie Ventura lawsuit thing broke. Really bad timing on our part. Obviously, if we were to do a Diddy episode now, it would be vastly different. And as we get these details, when this case unfolds, we will be revisiting Mr. Sean Combs.

But that episode, as it stands now, is number 155 in the archive. It's there for you to listen to. It was released on December 12, 2012, 2023 in the all-access portion of this here after party. If you just listened to that, you know that we talked about Justin Bieber. I mentioned that episode. We have an episode on Bieber in our archive. That is episode 130. That is from May 23, 2023. Beber, by the way, I was just looking at this up. It comes right after our Bruce Springsteen episode. And that might be one of my favorites, top five disgrace land episodes from the archive. So if you're there, if you're back there in the archive, you're checking out Bieber. One before, just go one before, scroll up.

There's the boss. Give the boss a spin down in Colts Neck, New Jersey. Okay, that's episode 129 from May 16th, 2020. I appreciate you guys in the reviews. I appreciate the voicemails, the text, as always, the recommendations, recommending archive episodes to disgrace land listeners. Thank you, thank you, thank you. All right, I got to get out of here. So let's recap. Number one, Right now, in your feed, our episode on Matthew Perry. Number two, coming tomorrow, a special rewind episode from our archive. And we're talking about Sigourney Weaver, like I said, next week's episode. So hit me with your space wrecks, your alien wrecks.

What movies should I be watching that take place in space? Number three, merch winners get in touch. You know who you are. And if you have gotten in touch, I will be back at you shortly. Number four, get tickets to the disgraceland live stream on October night at that moment. com slash disgrace. Number five, remember no one cares about great storytelling more than you do. And well, that is a disgrace.

All right, in honor of the subject of our most recent episode, Matthew Perry, this is me reading to you the Billboard charts from the day that Friends aired back on September 22nd, 1994. Number one, I'll make love to you, boys to men. Last week, one, peak position, one, weeks on chart, seven. Number two, stay. I missed you from me. Reality Bites. Lisa Loeb in nine stories.

Last week, two. Peak position. One. Weeks on charm. 21. Number three, endless love. Luther Vandros and Mariah Carey. Last week.

Six. Peak position. Three. Weeks on charge. Three. Number four. Nine. When can I so?

Charm. Last. Last. Talking and start mixing. When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist, they take matters into their own hands. I vowed, I will be his last target. He is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves.

We always say that trust your girlfriends. Listen to the girlfriends, trust me, babe, on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea with me. Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When like young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever. My first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? Rather be disappointed in. Do that.

David O'Yello. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Dennis Leary, Gaten Moderato from Stranger Things. Tana Monsu, Camilla Morone, Carrie Kenny Silver, and more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Movies can make you feel, make you dream. Sometimes they even make you appreciate architecture.

Is there anybody who's been hotter in a doorway than Elizabeth Taylor? That's the kind of analysis you'll find every week on Dear Movies I Love You. from the Exactly Right Network. Every Tuesday, we break down the films we're crushing on, from blockbusters to deep cuts. Listen to Dear Movies I Love You on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.