DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode: Funky Snakefoot, Following the Truth, and A Full Embrace of the Criminal Lifestyle

Episode Date: January 4, 2024

This week on the After Party, Jake gets in to the Rewind episodes on the Beach Boys' Dennis Wilson, and the Manson zeitgeist surrounding them. Plus your emails, voicemails, texts, DMs, and more. Drop ...Jake a line at 617-906-6638, disgracelandpod@gmail.com, or on socials @disgracelandpod, and come join the After Party. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 This is exactly right. Double Elvis. When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist, they take matters into their own hands. I vowed. I will be his last target. He is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves. We always say that trust your girlfriends. Listen to the girlfriends.
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Starting point is 00:02:05 Hey, guys, thanks for checking out this bonus episode. Before we get into it, I wanted to fill you in on all the great content we've got for you this week. Here in Disgraceland, we just released an archive. episode on the Beach Boys part one and then tomorrow we've got the Beach Boys part two for you over in the badlands feed check out a brand new episode on harrison ford and don't miss a new episode on our new kid show music land stories which is a collaboration here at double elvis with star glow media episode four just dropped in that show's feed and uh after taking last week off for the holidays
Starting point is 00:02:39 we're ready to rock again so let's get into it shall we hey discos need a little more disgrace land in your life, just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the After Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the after party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. On this episode, we are talking about, among other things, our two-part re-release on the Beach Boys, and of course, your voicemails, text, DMs, and more.
Starting point is 00:03:35 And as always, a whole lot of rosy. All right, discos, let's get it. Happy New Year, everybody. Listen, we're back. We're back, sort of, okay? We're doing a little archive, dip into the archive this week. Keep the feed rocking. Give you guys some content to keep you happy
Starting point is 00:04:05 before we get right back into the new episodes next week. This week, however, in disgraceland, parts one and two of our classic two-partic, two-part episode on the Beach Boys, specifically about Dennis Wilson, brother, of course, to Brian Wilson and Carl Wilson. Dennis was the band's drummer, but also the inspiration for all of the songs
Starting point is 00:04:24 about all the sort of surf culture that the Beach Boys covered in the early 60s. Dennis Wilson, he was the beach boy who actually surfed, kind of like how Leve-on-Helm was actually the guy of the band who was actually from the South, but I digress. Dennis Wilson, however, got caught up in a lot of darkness. You know the story, started hanging out with Charlie Manson, and you know what happened from there.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Not going to get back into it here. You got to hear it in the episode. The reason we're playing you these Dennis Wilson episodes this week is because there's a heavy New Year's theme, and we just thought it made sense. So check it out. You'll hear in this story the traditional narrative about Charles Manson and about the murders of at the Tate household and the La Bianca household. and the narratives surrounding Helter Skelter put forth by Vincent Bouliosi, who wrote that book and prosecuted Charles Manson. I believed this story wholeheartedly up until about, I don't know, a year after I wrote these episodes. So basically my entire life.
Starting point is 00:05:33 And I read Helter Skelter when I think I was 15 or 16 years old. and it put me on the trajectory to do what I do now. It started my obsession with true crime, a different kind of true crime obsession, not like, you know, I'm not obsessed in the modern way, but I am obsessed in my own way, especially when true crime meets up and rubs up against history, like it most certainly does here, with a lot of historical figures, a lot of cultural icons, and that's kind of what we do here. So this was the perfect story, and I knew I was going to tell it at some point. And like I said, I believed this narrative, and I believed what I put forth in these episodes up until about a year after. I wrote them, and that's because I ended up reading the book, Chaos by Tom O'Neill, which is a, Tom O'Neill is a journalist. And he spent, I don't know, 20-something years writing this book, and it nearly destroyed his life. quite literally almost destroyed his life.
Starting point is 00:06:37 And he, the reason for that is he started following the truth as he was discovering it in his investigation, which wasn't an investigation he set out to do. It just sort of unfurled before him and he just kept following it like any good journalists would do following the truth despite the incentives and the incentive structure not being there and being anything but an incentive structure. He had no incentive to keep following the truth, yet he did. And what he came up with is a well-sourced journalistic spine that supports and undergirds and provides the scaffolding for a lot of what was once deemed crazy conspiracy theories about the Manson murders. Now, Tom O'Neill, I don't want to misrepresent what chaos that book is, but it does not
Starting point is 00:07:39 validate all of the Cooke Job conspiracies that are out there about Manson. There are a lot. But what it does do is it completely submarines Vincent Bouliosi's theory of Helter Skelter, the one that has been accepted for years. And it does so with facts, in evidence. and in a way that you just cannot deny when you read this book and you look at the sources. That's the key. And you think about the incentive. That's the other key. The author, the journalist, had no incentive to follow the truth.
Starting point is 00:08:17 It hurt him to follow the truth. Yet he did, which tells me that it's true. It tells me the guy is not trying to sell books. He couldn't sell enough books to make up for what this book. did to his life. Okay. When you read the book, you'll understand. And, you know, he's gone on, you know, he went on, not only did he go on a book tour, I think, I guess now that I think about it, I've never really heard an interview with him. But despite reading that book twice, but he had many people out there talking about this book at a time, I remember hearing Quentin Tarantino
Starting point is 00:08:57 talk about it at a time when Quentin Tarantino's Manson-related film Once Upon a Time in Hollywood was out there. And that's a particular type of movie. It's more of a love letter to Hollywood than it is any sort of, that it pretends to be any sort of like real historical document. It doesn't do that. And Tarantino has his own angle and his own point of view clearly. But he believes a lot of what is in the Tom O'Neill book. And it changed his mind as it did to many others. And then you go back and you start to read, you read the family, you read, you read all these other books that were sort of dismissed over the years, books about Charles Manson. And then you start to go, oh my God, this stuff, this stuff was right on. And you look at how
Starting point is 00:09:43 Tom O'Neill explains the actual history of Hollywood in the 60s and where Dennis Wilson, our subject, rubs up against Charles Manson. And you start to go, holy shit, we've been being lied to for decades. Everything we thought was wrong. And then you look at the helter-skelter story and you just go, I can't believe I bought this load of shit. The Beatles in a race war and Charles Manson is king of the world. God, unbelievable. Anyways, like I said, I didn't come to that knowledge until about a year after I wrote these episodes and I read Tom O'Neill's chaos. And I read Tom O'Neill's chaos. And from there, it just spun me out. It spun out Zeth, who writes, obviously, I talk about Zeth all the time, who writes here at Disgraceland and Badlands and Double Elvis. But it spun
Starting point is 00:10:38 me out, and we've created numerous other episodes that try to sort of, you know, write the record in my mind. And we did the, the two that come to mind that are, that most strongly make Tom O'Neill's case, I think, are the two Cass Elliott episodes about Mama Cass Elliott from the Mamas and the Pappas. We did a sort of Roshaman answer episodes to Cass Elliott in Disgraceland. We did two Sharon Tate episodes over in the Badlands feed. Sharon Tate was Mama Cass Elliott's best friend. And those episodes are more than just in conversation with each other. They're sort of mirror images of each other. And it was a really cool creative angle that we took. I wrote the Cass Eps, Zeth wrote the Sharon Tate episodes.
Starting point is 00:11:26 I encourage you guys to check them out as that, as two related pieces. And then, of course, we did the Charles Manson episode and looked at his music career specifically in how that related to the Bouliosi narrative and the bullshit of the Bouliosi narrative, actually. So Helter Skelter, the greatest selling true crime book of all time by Vincent Bouliosi is, in my mind a large crock of shit. And, you know, unfortunately, it influenced me as it has countless others. And the results of that are in those two Dennis Wilson episodes that you're going to hear. Don't let that sway you from listening to them, okay? Because the thing we do in these episodes
Starting point is 00:12:09 is we really find our way into sort of the horror creative of disgrace land. And as a produced piece of content, I'm very proud of it. And I'm also very proud of how we treated the character, the real-life character of Dennis Wilson, which is a very complicated one. So I encourage you if you're new here, and I know a lot of you are, after hearing this bonus episode, check out the Dennis Wilson episodes. From there, go on and listen to the Cass Elliott episodes, and then the Charles Manson episode. You will not be disappointed. And I think what I'm going to do with all of these Charles Manson episodes, I think I'm going to put them into a book or some sort of graphic anthology, something like that. And I'm, I think I'm going to do with all of these Charles Manson episodes. I think I'm going to put them into a book or some sort of graphic,
Starting point is 00:12:51 I release them later in the year because I feel like it's a good, it's a strong document. We put some cool art to it. It could be really cool. Anyways, all right, that's it on what we got going this week. I'm going to take a quick break. I really got to drink some tea. My voice is shattered this week. I've been recording so much back in a flash with some emails, voicemails, and texts from you guys.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Later. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games. You get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends...
Starting point is 00:13:47 Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed.
Starting point is 00:14:05 I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark.
Starting point is 00:14:30 When, like, young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever, and my first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do. You'd rather be disappointed in. Do that. Dennis Leary. I wake up and I'm hitting him in the head with a water bomb.
Starting point is 00:14:47 And Bruce Jenner is on the aisle in a karate stance. Like he's about to attack me. Like making karate noises. And his entire the Kardashian family over there, everybody's going. And the air marshal is trying to grab my arms and screaming. And I immediately know that I've been asleep walking. David O'Yellowo. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or relationships or
Starting point is 00:15:10 religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Guy Branham. So anyway, Nicole Kidman broke up with Keith Thurban. Being half of a country couple was always a hat she was going to wear, not like a life she was going to lead. Oh, interesting. I like that. Did you practice that on your way over?
Starting point is 00:15:31 Gaten Moderato from Stranger Things. Tena, Mongeau, Camilla Morone, Carrie Kenny Silver. And more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Remember when you'd walk into your local video rental place and there were always those two employees behind the counter arguing about movies? Well, that's us. I'm Millie de Cherico. And I'm Casey O'Brien. And now we're arguing about movies on our podcast. Dear Movies I Love You from the Exactly Right Network.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Can I say something about the Criterion Clause? Go ahead, dude. They're letting too many people in there. Okay, that's another film grape I got two. Sadly, that rental place doesn't exist anymore. It's probably a store that sells running shoes. Or an ice cream shop with an extra P and an E at the end. So consider us your slacker movie clerks in podcast form. I would like to establish a timeline of the moment you figured out who Channing Tatum was.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Every Tuesday, we dig into the movies we can't stop obsessing over, from hidden gems to big screen favorites. New episodes drop every week on the exactly right network. Listen to Dear Movies I Love You on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, we are back, 617-906-66-6638. Hit me up if you have any questions about the Dennis Wilson episodes or any of the Charles Manson content that we've put out or anything that I just said here earlier in the bonus episode. I know it's confusing. I know it's weird, guys, when you hear someone telling you, like, look, everything you've heard is wrong.
Starting point is 00:17:16 what I'm saying now is right. I know that's a fucking weird thing to open your ears up to. So if you have any specific questions, I'm happy to answer those. 617-906-66-6638 voicemail and text. At Disgracelam Pod on Instagram, X, Facebook, TikTok. You can hit us up on YouTube as well. We've been growing fast these last couple weeks over at Disgraceland Pot on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:17:42 And I know that's affecting the growth of the show here as well. It's awesome. I want to thank you guys for all the engagement over there. I want to thank all the new listeners as well. Welcome. Again, you can call me. You can leave me a voicemail. You can send me a text. I respond that way. And of course, I respond through the DMs. We've been trying to figure out even before this growth, this recent little growth spurt we've had. We've been trying to figure out here in the disgrace line community how we better speak to each other in a way that isn't just about, you know, me answering every DM and every text and every voicemail that I can. I can't answer them all clearly or even every email. But just, I've been thinking, how do we all sort of talk to each other? There's a lot of you. I talk to a lot of you daily. And some of you talk to each other in the comments. But I've been trying to figure out a way to do this efficiently where we're all sort of in some sort of digital community every day talking to disgrace land, talking to disgrace land content. talking music, talking true crime, talking dark stories about icons, because that's what we do,
Starting point is 00:18:52 talking about recommendations, the music we love, the movies we love, all of that, the whole conversation. How do we do it together? How do we do it regularly? How do we do it in a way that isn't choked out by an algorithm? And I've put some ideas out on Instagram last night, heard back from you guys. I'm recording this early, by the way, I'm recording this, what is it, December 22nd, so I can take some time off with my family next week and not have to record.
Starting point is 00:19:19 So I guess, yeah, last night I put some ideas up on Instagram about how we can sort of more efficiently speak to each other. And specifically, there's this group chat technology that we can all get into. And there's multiple ways to do it, different platforms. But I just want to shout out all of you who have been engaged in this conversation, Johnny Vinyl, Jessica, Aaron, Lisa Murphy, KKB4, so many of you, Heather Good, Luke Nolan, Tosh Solo, Peter Young, so many of you on Instagram, chips, Coco, just Ili Ordaz, Tony Wolf Medeiros. Just want to shout out all you guys for responding, for giving me your feedback. Chris On It, as always, contributing in the community, making content for you guys.
Starting point is 00:20:10 See, that's another thing, too. I mean, this guy's like, he's a real DJ over in Australia. He's making mixes for us. And, like, he'll send me a Spotify link, and I can put a story up about it. But, like, you know, how many of you are actually going to see that? You know what I mean? Like, this is this type of stuff I'm trying to figure out. So I just wanted to shout those of you out who have been a sort of constant voice in my ear on the subject over the last couple of nights.
Starting point is 00:20:36 I appreciate it. Oh, I don't know your real name. but your handle is oh kate cooper photography thank you so much uh just appreciate it like i said all right let's do uh let's answer some emails let's answer some texts and uh let's let's hear some of your voicemails all right this email comes from jason bain by the way guys you can email me disgracelandpod at gmail dot com jason writes hey jake my favorite christmas song is and i'm biased but it's jingle jangle by k k kaiser the arrangement the vocal flavor the back up vocals and strings so good i'm biased because the guy singing is my great uncle harry babbitt harry was
Starting point is 00:21:17 also the voice of woody woodpecker in other cartoons and was also a radio and tv host in the 40s and 50s the song is a special magic in my heart maybe you heard it if not give it a spin take care merry holidays rock a rolla brother jason that's so awesome to hear i was i was i started reading that and i was like wait why is he biased um we're big woody woodpecker fans in this house i try to get my kids into some of the cartoons that i was into as a kid uh woody woodpecker is one that has stuck tom and jerry as well so thanks jason appreciate that john writes in a little about me subject a little bit about me from john j o'n howdy friend john from arizona i listen to disgrace and whilst i work i kill things for a living i listen to just about every type of music
Starting point is 00:22:02 Love the Misfits and Reverend Horton Heat When I was younger, I would look for Metal Blade records or buy albums by the cover art. Recommendations by Agar Boys. Well, listen, John, I'm not sure what you kill for a living, but I hope it's, I don't know, I don't fucking know, I don't like killing of anything. I'm hoping maybe you work.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Geez, I feel weird reading that email now. John, write me back. Tell me you're not a hit man. Tell me you're not like a Corsican assassin who's been sent here to take out some high level. I'm not even going to go there. All right, let's keep going here from Skydabney 13.
Starting point is 00:22:41 It writes in, never again will I order merch. I ordered something two weeks ago and still haven't received it. I know this isn't your fault, but I've even contacted downright merch and no response. So it seems as if I've just lost my money. Just thought you should know case anyone else has issues or maybe am I the only one? Who knows? Love the podcast. Keep them coming.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Well, listen, I'm really sorry about that. And I have no idea what the problem is. And I'm going to try and figure that out. I'll contact downright merch myself. And we'll try to find out what is up with your order. I would encourage you to give me a little more info on the order. Maybe I can help track this down for you. And if any of you are having any trouble receiving our merchandise, hit me up and let me know.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Disgracelandpot at gmail.com. All right, let's check out this email from Christine S. Dear Jake, thank you for the great podcast. I'm a fan and can't stop listening. I was wondering if you have intentions of ever going more in depth of the assassination of Peter Tosh. I find him to be fascinating as a musician.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Well, Merry Christmas and Rocka Rolla. Christine, it's your lucky day, your lucky week. This week, in fact, I recorded not one, but two episodes on Peter Tosh. And they'll be coming out in a couple months. All right, soon, actually. very soon, very soon in the new year. All right.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Thanks, guys. Disgraceampod at gmail.com. Let's do some voicemail. 617-90666338. That's how you hit me on the voicemail machine. Let's check out this voicemail from the 314. Hey, Jay, Kevin Bosch, calling from the 3-14. Just calling to say, happy holidays to you. I've been a listener pretty much from day one.
Starting point is 00:24:23 I think I discovered you somewhere around episode 15. Of course, went backwards to listen to the first 14. And Melissa, you're telling us how thankful you. Kevin, Merry Christmas, man. Happy holidays to you. I really appreciate this. I hope you're having a good holiday. Thanks for reaching out.
Starting point is 00:24:55 I meant what I said in that last bonus episode. Grateful for you. Grateful for all the listeners. Hope you had a good holiday, all right? Happy New Year. All right, let's check out this one from the 5-4-0. Jake, sir. How are you doing?
Starting point is 00:25:08 This is Justin is not God. He can't be God because Lemmy. Have a Merry Christmas. Duceus. Justin, thanks for the voicemail. Yes. Yeah, you might be on to something there, Lemmy. You might be on to something. Let's check out this one from the 203. This is John from the 203. How about an episode on the great Lenny Bruce, the father of modern comedy? Maybe you already done it, and I missed it, but I hope to see it soon. I mean, hear it.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Hey, what's up, John? Great idea. You know, I actually had a stop and think. Did we do an episode on Lenny Bruce? And I don't think we have to be. And yeah, I think maybe we combine the feeds this year, and that's something we end up doing in the disgrace land feed. Lenny's about as big of an icon as you can get when it comes to stand-up comedy. All right, let's check out this one from the 765. Hey, Jake, it's Adriana from the 317 with a 765 phone number. I just wanted to ask if you've heard of the band Great White. They weren't around for very long because they were the ones that caused the station nightclub fire. that killed 100 people and injured 230.
Starting point is 00:26:30 It is a crazy story whenever it comes to fire regulations. Anybody who knows anything about that probably knows this story too. All of it happened just from negligence and arrogance. And anyway, I think you'd really be interested. All right, bye. Adriana, thanks for the voicemail. Yes, we are actually, we have this one in the works right now. My dad is researching this one for us,
Starting point is 00:26:54 and he spent some time down in Providence. You know, not a connected guy, but a guy who saw some stuff. So this is very interesting for him to research, and I'm pumped to get into this story and to tell it. I already have an idea of how we want to do it. All right, from the 860. Hey, Jake, and I've been home since then, but I can't listen to them too frequently
Starting point is 00:27:22 because I need time to absorb it. 860. Thanks for the voicemail. Appreciate it. Yeah, they're dense episodes. We pack a lot into them. So I get it. But as long as you're listed in 860, that's all that matters. Thanks for your support.
Starting point is 00:27:37 All right, guys, I'm going to take a quick break, back in a flash with some texts. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of The Girlfriends, Oh my God, this is the same man.
Starting point is 00:28:14 A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Listen to the Girlfriends. Trust me, babe. on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When, like, young people come up to me and they want to be an act or whatever. My first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? Rather be disappointed in.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Do that. Dennis Leary. I wake up, and I'm hitting him in the head with a water bomb. And Bruce Jenner is on the aisle in a karate stance, like he's about to attack me, like, making karate noises. And his entire, the Kardashian family over there, everybody's going, and the air marshal is trying to grab my arms and screaming. I immediately know that I've been asleep walking.
Starting point is 00:29:30 David O'Yello-O. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Guy Branham. So anyway, Nicole Kidman broke up with Keith Thurban. Being half of a country couple was always a hat she was going to wear, not like a life she was going to lead. Oh, interesting. I like that.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Did you practice that on your way over? Gaten Matarazzo from Stranger Things. Tena Monsu. Camilla Morone, Carrie Kenny Silver, and more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Remember when you'd walk into your local video rental place and there were always those two employees behind the counter arguing about movies? Well, that's us. I'm Millie to Cherico.
Starting point is 00:30:22 And I'm Casey O'Brien. And now we're arguing about movies on our podcast, Dear Movies I Love You, from the Exactly Right Network. Can I say something about the criterion closet? Go ahead, dude. They're letting too many people in there. Okay, that's another film grape I got two. Sadly, that rental place doesn't exist anymore. It's probably a store that sells running shoes.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Or an ice cream shop with an extra pee and an E at the end. So consider us your slacker movie clerks in podcast form. I would like to establish a timeline of the moment you figured out who Channing Tatum was. Every Tuesday, we dig into the movies we can't stop obsessing over, from hidden gems to big screen favorites. New episodes drop every week on the exactly right network. Listen to Dear Movies I Love You on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. All right, let's do some text. 617-9066638.
Starting point is 00:31:23 The 310 writes in, Jake, by the time you see this, it'll probably be past the after party where you're going to talk about non-traditional Christmas tunes, goes without saying, Fairy Tale of New York by good old Shane. Yeah, you know, Ryan goes on to say, and it's a direct descendant by my boys from Quincy, Dropkick Murphy's. The seasons upon us, Merry Christmas, Rocka Rolla, Ryan. Ryan, you're absolutely right. We're going to do a proper Shane McGowan episode of Disgraceland in 2004 for the 2024 Christmas season.
Starting point is 00:31:56 But I think if you go to my Instagram at Disgraceland Pod, you will find a recent little tribute to Shane McGowan that you'll be into. 303 writes in, hey, bonus episode, Mariah Carey, did you really say beat that Bing Crosby? Sorry, dark sense of humor. But if you know, you know, I know, man. Yeah, I guess I did say it. And I'm not going to explain what 303 is saying there, but you guys can do a little Bing Crosby research on your own. All right.
Starting point is 00:32:32 864 writes in, it's Laney. Lainey here, your William Bell, every day will be like a holiday recommendation was received. And as always, spot on. Here's my Merry Christmas, Baby, White Christmas, Perfection. Yeah, you know that oldest writing song and that William Bell song are definitely in league together. Guys, 617-906-66-6-638 semi-text. Let me know how your New Year's going.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Let me know how you celebrated New Year's. Let me know what you got for New Year's Eve music that you're into, all right? Hit me up. 617-9066638 voicemail and text at the Scraiclam pod, Instagram, X, TikTok, Facebook, everywhere. Also on YouTube. Someone wrote to me the other day, and forgive me, I don't know who it was, and I can't dig it out of my DMs right now,
Starting point is 00:33:17 but someone asked me what the origin of the phrase rockerola is, where it came from and why I say it in every episode of disgrace land at the end of every episode. And now you guys say it. You write to me all the time, rockerola, rockerola, rockerola. It's a great saying, isn't it? It just feels good coming out of your tongue. That's how it happened.
Starting point is 00:33:39 I didn't plan on saying it when I said it. I just said it when I was recording that first episode. And then I said it again when I recorded the second, third, fourth, fifth. And you know what? Up until about the sixth or seventh episode, I wasn't even sure what it meant. And it ended up being a thing fairly quickly with you guys who started to engage with me once the podcast was released originally way back in 2018. You guys started writing to me and signing things rockerola. and it occurred to me, gee, Jake, you should really try to maybe figure out what the fuck it is you're saying
Starting point is 00:34:13 and broadcasting out to all these people or podcasting out to all these people on a regular basis. So I looked it up. I of course knew it was a Judas Priest's song and I knew the Judas Priest song and I loved the Judas Priest song. That's not why I said it. Like I said, I just said it. So I looked up the meaning of it. And in one of those sort of Holy Spirit moments, synchronization, whatever you want to call it, synchronicity, the universe, however you look at things, it was just perfect. I looked this up and the meaning of rockerola, I'm paraphrasing here, but it basically means a full embrace of the criminal lifestyle. And I think that comes from the movie rockerola, which I still to this day have not seen. I even have a rockerola tattoo
Starting point is 00:35:03 that a listener, Danny from Los Angeles, gave to me. It's two handcuffed hands with Rockarola on the Knuckles. But I've never seen that movie. I don't think I'm going to see the movie. But I just thought, damn, that makes total sense for a podcast like, Disgraceland. So there you have it. There's the origin story of Rockerola. And as I was thinking about this over the past couple days,
Starting point is 00:35:32 relative to the after party here, the bonus episodes, the content that we make, it occurred to me that there's a rock-a-rolla-roll moment, many rock-a-roll moments in our episodes, frequently, regularly, where the subject just does something where you're just like, I can't believe that motherfucker just did that. That's the rock-a-rolla moment. And I can't believe I've never organized my thinking in this way before, but I'm going to start because I find that. I find that. I find a rock-rola moment. And I can't believe I've never organized my thinking in this way before, but I'm going to start because I find that these moments, these holy shit moments that we come upon in the research and that we write about and that we include in our podcast episodes
Starting point is 00:36:12 and that I'm now sort of making these little videos on Instagram with. They're in part what gets you guys stoked. All right? So I'm giving them a name. They're now the rockerola moments. I'll be hitting them here in the after parties. You'll be hearing about it. recommendations. I want new music from you guys. I don't mean new like it was made recently. I mean
Starting point is 00:36:32 shit I have not heard. It's the new year. I want to be psyched on music. I want to be, I want to be reaching for my phone, playing new stuff. I'm going to leave you guys with this. Okay? This is my recommendation for you. Search out Funky Snakefoot by Alphonse Muzon. Okay. And then play the song Funky Snakefoot. If you're hip-hop fans, this isn't hip-hop, but if you're hip-hop fans, you're going to recognize that this song has been sampled like crazy, and it is incredible. All right, there you go. That's my recommendation. Alphonse Muzon, Funky, Snakefoot.
Starting point is 00:37:07 What a title. 617-9066638. That's how you get in touch with me. You can hit me up on Instagram, X, Facebook as well. At DiscreacelamPod. You can email me, disgracelampot at gmail.com. Let's recap this thing, shall we? Number one, right now in your feed, part one of our archive episode on the Beach Boys.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Number two, coming tomorrow, part two of our archive episode on the Beach Boys. Number three, over in the Badlands feed, we've got a new episode on Harrison Ford. Number four, next week in the disgrace land feed, we get double the after-party fun to get you ready for a ton of new episodes coming down the pike. Number five, my number is 617-906-66-38. Call me on the telephone. Text me, hit me up. Number six, remember, no one cares about the music that you love more than you do, and well, that's a disgrace.
Starting point is 00:37:55 Okay, my moment of bliss in honor of this week's Discraceland episode on the Beach Boys, me reading you, the phone book from Malibu, California, circa 1957. Duncan. John S. Glenwood, 7-206. Dunham. Bob and Lucille, Glenwood, 7-2308. Dunlap Broderick Globe 6-2949 Dunnell Warren and Mary
Starting point is 00:38:29 Glenwood 72616 Dunning John Dee and Ruth I Glenwood 7-2177 Dussau Lauren and Georgian
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