DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode: Grammy Snubs, Righting the NWA Wrong, Wild Award Show Buggery, and More

Episode Date: January 22, 2026

The Grammy are most interesting when they mess up—snubbing NWA, the Grateful Dead, Metallica and others. We get into all of it plus some extra awards show hijinks in the exclusive All Access section..., and as always Jake takes your voicemails, text, emails, and more. For more wild stories from the world of music and true crime, check out these Disgraceland episodes: ⁠U2⁠ ⁠Bob Dylan⁠ ⁠Whitney Houston⁠ ⁠Bob Marley⁠ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 This is exactly right. Double Elvis. Hey, Discos, need a little more disgrace land in your life? Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the After Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode.
Starting point is 00:00:44 A little thing we like to call the after party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. Our mission to uncover the truth to confront the myth To reclaim the story on this bonus episode We're discussing some wild Grammy snubs What's up, Metallica?
Starting point is 00:01:03 And talking run, run, run, runaways. Hello, Joan Jett, Lita Ford. In our exclusive section for all access members, we dive into some of the more scandalous happenings from award shows past And we get into your emails, comments, DMs, And as always, a whole lot of rosy. This is the podcast for the musically obsessed,
Starting point is 00:01:22 the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know that the best history is the history that gets buried. Disgraced land is where I tell the stories they didn't want told, the kind you'll end up telling someone else. All right, Discos, let's get into it. Joan Jett of the Runaways was nominated at the 1989 Grammy Awards in the category of best rock performance by a duo or group with vocal. For her song, I hate myself for loving you.
Starting point is 00:02:04 She did not win that award, you two song, from the album Rattle on Humb took it home. Other artists nominated, though, were in excess, Little Feet, and Midnight Oil. I mentioned this because Joan Jett was part of the group, The Runaways, who we cover in this week's full episode of Disgraceland and because the Grammys are coming up. Now, the runaways were never nominated for a Grammy. They were much too fringe.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Lita Ford, another runaway, however, was nominated. One more time, actually, than Joan Jett. for best rock performance female and best single. She lost both times. The Grammys are on my mind, like I said, because they're coming up at a couple weeks. And I find the Grammys most interesting when they mess up, like Jeff Rottal being chosen over Metallica. So I was kind of surprised to see that not one, but two runaways were eventually nominated. Now, in this week's Rebine episode of Disgraceland, we feature NWA. 1988, the Compton group of MCs released the incredible album Straight Outta Compton. Not surprisingly,
Starting point is 00:03:13 given how subversive and controversial the group was at the time, the Grammys did not touch straight out of Compton or NWA, despite how well the band in that record sold and despite how impactful that album was at the time. Straight Out of Compton went platinum and it hit the top 40, despite being an independent album. And that's an incredible accomplishment. But that shouldn't matter. The 12,000-plus voting members, a group of music professionals,
Starting point is 00:03:44 including performers, songwriters, producers, and engineers are supposed to nominate an award winners based solely on artistic and technical merit. By what technical measurement is the right-hand rhythm guitar playing of Martin Baer from Jethro Tull better than James Hetfield's from Metallica?
Starting point is 00:04:00 In what world is Jeff Rottal's album, crest of a knave better than Metallica's and Justice for All. It's been 39 years, guys, and I'm still not going to let this one go. But back to NWA's straight out of Compton. Sales aside, you can't mess with the album's artistic or technical merit. And making the snub even more egregious is the fact that in 1989, that was the year that they added the best rap performance category. Now the nominees for that, DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince with Parents Just Don't Understand. Supersonic by JJ Fad, Wow Wild West by Tone Loke, going back to Cali by L.L. Cool J., Push It by Saul and Peppa.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Now, all of these songs or performances, as they term them, are capital G great, especially JJ Fad's supersonic. DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince won, and I can accept that because parents just don't understand was everywhere the year that it was released. But come on, the Grammys couldn't make Tone Lokes Wild Wild West. Just, you know, go hang out somewhere else and let straight out of Compton be on the ballot. I don't understand that. I mean, I guess I do. I guess I do. Would never happen now.
Starting point is 00:05:14 But then, 1989, much different time. 1989 was a weird year for the Grammys. George Michael's Faith won album of the year, beating out Tracy Chapman's self-titled album, Bobby McFerrin's Simple Pleasures, Stings, Nothing Like the Sun and Steve Winwood's role with it, pretty much lame city all around aside from the Greek god of tight-fitting blue jeans and his record faith. Lita Ford did present an award that year, though, along with Alice Cooper, for another new category, best hard rock metal. Okay, another new category in 1989, best hard rock and metal. And Lita Ford and Alice Cooper gave that award to, like I said, Jeff Hortel, not Metallica.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Have I mentioned yet how ridiculous it was that the Grammys gave the award to Jeff Hortel that year and not Metallica. Again, I'm not over it. This, of course, wasn't the first or the last time that the Grammys messed up. During their entire long, strange, trippy run, despite being arguably the greatest American rock and roll band ever, the Grateful Dead were never nominated for a Grammy, even when their single Touch of Grey cracked the top 10 on the Billboard Hot 100. Bob Marley, Global Superstar, revolutionized music at the time, no awards. Jimmy Hendricks arguably, actually no, there's no argument, definitively the greatest guitar player to ever be involved with popular music, no Grammys for Hendricks.
Starting point is 00:06:43 All these artists, including The Who and Diana Ross, they were all eventually awarded something called the Lifetime Achievement Grammy Award after their quote-unquote active careers in pop music had slowed down. And the Grammys did the same thing for NWA in 2024. they gave them the Lifetime Achievement Award. The Lifetime Achievement Award at the Grammys is kind of like the, oh shit, we fucked up, and we're making it right award. I kind of like it.
Starting point is 00:07:13 It's better than nothing. This year's Lifetime Achievement Award nominees at the 68th annual Grammys are Carlos Santana, Shaka Khan, Cher, Fala Couti, Paul Simon, and Whitney Houston. Carlos Santana already has 10 Grammys. In 2000, he won eight.
Starting point is 00:07:32 on the same night. Paul Simon has 16 Grammys. Shuka Khan has 10. Whitney Houston has six. Share has won. Fala Kuti has zero. So you can pretty much guarantee Fala Kuti is going to win this award in a couple of weeks. Again, the Lifetime Achievement Award, kind of like, hey, we messed up. We're going to fix it. And again, I like that. What kind of award, though, are they going to give for messing up that whole millie-vinilly thing? You know, that time they gave the Voli. vocal duo, the best new artist award in 1990 only for it later to be revealed that Millie Vanilli didn't actually sing their own songs. That award was eventually stripped by the Grammy Recording Academy's board of trustees. So, you know, bad Millie Vanilli, no award for you.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Unless you wait long enough. Unless, Millie Vanilli, you wait until 2026 because that's right, ladies and gentlemen, in a world where the most ridiculous and or ironic outcome is almost always guaranteed Fab Morvan, if I'm pronouncing that correctly, one of the air quote singers from Millie Vanilli is nominated for a Grammy this year for best audiobook narration and storytelling. For his memoir, you know it's true, the real story of Millie Vanilli. And yes, before you ask, it's definitely his voice used in the audiobook. So please God, let the Grammys give the award to the Millie Vanilli guy. It is right and just.
Starting point is 00:09:04 I don't know why it just is. Now, the Millie Vanilli story is one of the most shocking things to have ever happened at the Grammys. And it's kind of why I love award shows for the unexpected, for the messups, for the screwups. So on that note, Zeth and I are going to be discussing some of the wildest award show events that have ever happened. from dustups with soy boy and Dylan to Jarvis Cocker and Michael Jackson to Courtney and Axel and David Niven and the naked dude. Go to disgraceandpod.com to sign up for disgrace and all access to unlock this content and more. All right. I really kind of wish I did a Millie Vanilly episode for Grammy Week.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Maybe next year. Instead, though, this week we've got a two-part story on another Grammy nominee, Lady Gaga. And if you're a fan of German sex clubs and the Bavarian Illuminati, not to mention dangerous hangs on the roof of the Staten Island Hotel, you are not going to want to miss this story. These Gaga episodes deal almost entirely with the wild conspiracy theories surrounding the global superstar. And when you're listening, be thinking about those theories and whether or not you think that there's any truth to them. Any evidence, evidence that you think supports them, evidence that, you know, I kind of. Well, I put it all out there. You'll hear. Lots of people believe this stuff.
Starting point is 00:10:28 And I'm not judging. I mean, I'm judging by the facts. I'm not judging the people who believe what they believe. Anyways, when you're listening, I want to know, do you find any truth in these theories? And if so, why? Hit me up at 617-90666-6-3-8 to discuss. Leave a voicemail or send me a text,
Starting point is 00:10:45 and you might hear your voice and or your texted answer on next week's after party. Before Lady Gaga, though, coming up in the rewind slot right after this episode, after party is like I mentioned those two NWA episodes. Be sure to give those a spin. You're going to dig them. And I'll be back right after this with you guys, with your voicemails, text, emails, and more. All right, welcome back. Appreciate you guys. 617-906-66-6638 voicemail and text at Disgraceland Pod on the socials. You guys want to get in touch about anything. We're talking specifically this week
Starting point is 00:11:32 about the runaways. They're the subject of our new full episode. And at the end of that episode, I asked the question, which female artists do you guys want to hear covered in disgrace land? And on that subject, we heard from the 307. Let's check it out. Hey, Jake, this is Kara down in Austin, Texas, and you asked about suggestions for female episodes. I'm going to have to say it's plasmatics. Everybody talks about their influence on Guar and their stated show, but that sound was iconic, is iconic, and influenced a generation of, like, metal, hardcore punk, all of it. beautiful, windy story.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Insane. Absolutely insane. One other thing I wanted to put you on, if you haven't already heard about it, Jerry Lane from Poison Ideas, Trilogy, Blackheart Fades Blue. I've read a lot of rock bios. I have read a lot of junkie bios. That is the most depraved shit I've ever heard in my life. So check it out if you're interested.
Starting point is 00:12:34 But anyways, keep up the good work. Hope to hear from you. Later. Right, Kara in the 307, bringing that depraved energy from Austin. Kara, I don't know anything about Jerry Lane and poison idea. I should. So I'm very interested and happy you pointed this out. Can't wait to check out.
Starting point is 00:12:53 What did you say was the Black Heart? Blackheart fades blue? That's a great title. And on the Plasmatics, yes, you're not the first nor the last. A bunch of people this week actually have brought up Wendy, Wendy O. Williams. Plasmatics or and or Wendy. I'm not sure which.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Probably a Wendy episode. Going to the top of the list, Kara. Thank you. Not sure if you'd find this interesting. Perhaps you will, judging by your taste here. We've got a Gitts Mia Zapata episode in the works. I'm going to record that this afternoon.
Starting point is 00:13:26 That's coming in a couple weeks. So you got that to look forward to if you are a Mia Zapata fan, a fan of 90s, hard rock, grunge, or whatever you want to call it, punk alternative. That'll be coming soon. All right, let's check out this one from the 270. Hey, double Elvis, 270, Todd. Hadn't called in a while.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Always listen. And you've made my week with the Johnny Thunders episode. Thank you so much. You've done Mark Lannigan. You've done Johnny Thunders. Maybe a Jeffrey Lee Pierce in the future. My life would be complete. But Johnny Thunders, you've done,
Starting point is 00:14:06 said it best, his influence, like, people imitate him, and they don't even know that they are. I just ironically heard an interview last week with Stephen Pearson Pearson Percy of Rat. He was on Billy Corgan's podcast, and he was, you know, admitting that in the eight, you know, they were trying to look like pirates. Well, they were trying to look like Johnny Thunder's. So cool, so influential. I love the dolls as well, but some of that Johnny Thunder's solo. stuff. And as you said, the So Alone album had so many top-notch legends on there with him.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Other tragic figures, too. Bill Hinoff, Marriott, just so many people. Love the episode. I've been playing a lot of Johnny Thunders and Heartbreakers ever since I listened to it. Keep up to good work. Thank you, sir. 270. Thanks for the call. Appreciate you. Yes, Johnny was a huge, huge, huge influence. still is to this day. I feel like Guns and Roses should have been sending him royalty checks while he was alive. Love the idea for a future Jeffrey Lee Pierce Gun Club episode. We are digging deep into the punk rock influence here with Gun Club in the Plasmatics and the Gits, which is, of course, a good counter to the Lady Gaga's and NWAs of the world. Appreciate the suggestions, guys. Always 617-90666-6-6-38 voicemail and text.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Anthony texts in from the 724. Hey, Jake, it's Anthony. I'm going to be a bit behind on podcast, but listening to last week's Thursday episode and asking for more female subjects, I know I once suggested Dolores O'Reardon for the Cranberries, and you said it was a little too soon.
Starting point is 00:15:55 I'm not sure if enough time has passed. I know her stories are more personal, but she has that air rage incident, and of course zombie inspired by the troubles and a bombing event. Just thought I put the suggestion in again. Good health to you and yours and later days, Jake. 724.
Starting point is 00:16:10 I love it. Yeah, enough time is past, I think. I think we can get into the cranberries. I think we can get in more specifically to Dolores O'Reardon and her history. You know, I missed her at the studio. Once the studio I was working on, I missed her by about five minutes.
Starting point is 00:16:25 I showed up and she was gone and everybody there was buzzing because she was just there. And I thought, man, that would have been cool to me, Dolores from the cranberries. And then she was gone, and it's sad. But you know what? I'm going to steal myself, and I can dig into the research.
Starting point is 00:16:43 And personally, I'm interested in the troubles in Irish history. So this is in my wheelhouse. Thanks for reminding me 724. I appreciate it. 2.50 writes in with another suggestion, Hey, Jake, just listen to the Runaways Pod and heard the request for more female groups. So I'd love to hear a dive on the slits.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Thank you. 250, I know very little about the slits. Very little. So I'm down to learn and down to bring you guys what I find. 252 writes in simply Emmy Lou Harris. And this is a great idea because it opens up a new lane into Graham Parsons through Emmy Lou's point of view, which I'm not familiar with. I've, of course, read some quotes, read some things she said about Graham in my recent. search of Graham, most of it positive. Emmy Lou seems like a real class act. I wonder what's out there
Starting point is 00:17:38 for her history. I wonder if she's written an autobiography. Anyway, very intrigued. Emmy Lou could make for a great subject. I got to write these down. Some great subjects this week. Great recommendations, guys. 617-906-66-6638. Appreciate it all. Jackie over on Patreon writes in the chat. I not in the chat. She's commented on the post for our ad-free episode of The Runaways story. Jackie writes in, hey, having listened to this episode and still thinking about your punk question previously, which was, I'm jumping in here, this is not Jackie speaking, this is me, this is the question from, the question prompted from that Johnny Thunder's episode was which first generation punk group was most influential? Jackie writes in,
Starting point is 00:18:30 I've been thinking about the slits, a great punk band, and I'd love you to cover this story, Jake, but don't think that they have any crimes associated with them
Starting point is 00:18:40 other than misogyny within the punk scene. Jackie, we might be able to find something there. We might be able to find some crime to associate with the story.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Something that's related, maybe it's just, you know, once removed. We'll look into it. Appreciate the comment and the suggestion. Jackie. This is interesting. We're not all that self-referential here at Double Elvis, but on that same thread, Matt Bowden writes. And of course, those of you know, Matt Bowden works here at Double
Starting point is 00:19:11 Elvis. He's producing this show right now, this episode. I hadn't seen this comment until just now. It says, hey, just wanted to point out another Jeopardy slash disgrace land connection. Jackie Fox, basest for the runaways, was a three-time Jeopardy champion a few years back, competing under her real name, Jackie Fuchs. Matt goes on to say, I think she was on some other game shows as well. She also designed a well-regarded board game based around 1970s rock called Rock Hard, 1977. Great to see that after everything she and the other runaways went through. She was able to come out the other side. Matt, amazing. Somebody posted the comment on Instagram about Rock Hard, 1977, the board game, and I thought they were fucking with me.
Starting point is 00:19:55 This is amazing history. Love the Jeopardy connection. Of course, of those of you who don't know, the Jeopardy, Disgraceland connection that Matt's referencing. We were, disgracing, it was a clue on Jeopardy a couple weeks ago, which was pretty awesome. If you want to see that, you can just go to our Instagram page. It's pinned at the top at Disgraceland Pod. What else are you guys talking about on Patreon? Over in the chat, Susan writes, just listened to The Runaways episode. There's a pretty good movie from 2010 about The Runaways with Kristen Stewart and Dakota Fannieing titled The Runaways.
Starting point is 00:20:26 All right, Susan, listen, if you. If you say so, okay, I have been repelled by this film for some reason. I don't know why. Maybe it's because Kristen Stewart was coming sort of off that whole twilight thing at the time and I just, I just couldn't see it. But I'm going to take your word for it and I'm going to check it out. I'm just going to put it on maybe this afternoon. I read a Greta Gerwig quote yesterday. It said the best time to watch movies are 10 a.m. and 4 p.m. And I'm like, yeah, that's good if you know how it's fucking work for a living. but you know 4 p.m. today while I'm sort of you know end of my day I go into my okay let's let's jump online and see what people are talking about and get in there and talk to you guys
Starting point is 00:21:05 and I'll throw I'll throw the Kristen Stewart Dakota fanning runaways biopic on I like Dakota fanning a lot she's great Susan goes on to say I remember leader Ford's kiss me deadly video oh so do I as a young boy Susan uh and Susan goes on to say and as a young adult female, I was so pissed that she was crawling on the floor of the video. Anywho, there's a female guitarist. I highly recommend you look up. Nita Strauss, she's been on Alice Cooper's tour for years and is amazing. Yeah, I know who she is.
Starting point is 00:21:42 I've seen her on Instagram. She's incredible. And I got a side note. I love that Alice Cooper is still out there slinging it. Miranda Nicole in the chat is asking if anybody has seen the Scorsese directed documentary about David Joe Hansen yet. And you know what? Damn it. I haven't. And I was so excited, Miranda, when this came out. We talked about it here. I was pumped. Thank you for reminding me. You go to check that out. My question to you, Miranda, is, have you seen it? Let us know. Let us know on the Patreon chat.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Or give us a call. 617-9066668 voicemail and text. You might hear yourself on next week's after-party bonus episode. All right. I got this email. I want to read to you guys. from one of you guys. Hold tight. Let me find it. Okay, this email comes from John and John writes in, Hey, Jake, John here reaching out from Morrison, Colorado. I'm a huge fan of disgrace land, and I love the way you blend music history with true crime. I've also been hearing you plug this film should be played loud. And seeing that you covered Goodfellas really struck a chord with me. That movie in the world around it is a big part of my upbringing. I can't wait to watch it. A little background. I'm a carpenter,
Starting point is 00:22:53 by trade, but a lifelong punk guitar player and lover of all music. I'm from the Bronx originally raised in North Jersey. My father had ties to the Genevese crime family, not a made man, but a highly ranking associate. It's a wild part of my upbringing, and I have a feeling it's part of why so many of your stories feel oddly comforting to me in the same way that the work of David Chase does. One thing I always find funny is that despite all the teasing I got for liking punk, yeah, I got called all sorts of names, my tough guy, gangster dad, would say, still drive down to trash in vaudeville on St. Mark's Place and pick up CDs and band teas for me. The first thing he ever bought me was the New York Doll's self-titled record.
Starting point is 00:23:34 He had no idea what it was. I didn't ask for it. He just said, there's a couple of freaks on it and it says New York. Life-changing. And speaking of interesting characters, one of the guys my dad worked for, Angelo Prisco, Acapo and the Genevieve's family, was involved in an extortion case with Stephen Seagal. It's public information, but still one of those wild, almost. absurd stories it feels right in your wheelhouse maybe some hollywood land material there jennie goes
Starting point is 00:24:00 on to suggest doing a jerry nolan jerry nolan from the new york dolls episode which would be fantastic that'll give us that'll make the the dolls a trilogy of stories and disgrace and i love this idea and he also mentions warren zivon and i think there's something from warren zvon's past his upbringing actually with his father i think his i think his old man was an associate of micky cohen the gangster from Los Angeles back in the 1940s. So that could be very interesting. Anyways, Johnny signs off. Rockerola, Johnny Nuts.
Starting point is 00:24:33 P.S., I'm including a link to a music video for my band. I think you'll at least get a laugh out of it. Not looking for a shout-out. Just love the rock and roll thing. I'm the guy with a TV yellow, Les Paul knockoff. Johnny's band is called Hell toupee. Like, toupee, like the hairpiece. Pretty funny. Check that out. All right, Johnny Nuts. Thank you, buddy. What a crazy upbringing you've had. Fascinating. Your dad sounds like a cool guy, and I love that he, I love the, how did you put it here? They're from New York, and they got a couple of freaks. I love that. It's so cool. I miss Trash and vaudeville as well. Great store on St. Mark's Place in New York. I say I miss it like it's not there anymore. It could be there. I don't know. I don't get to New York much anymore. I don't think it's there.
Starting point is 00:25:23 disgrace I'm pod at gmail.com. You want to hit me up about anything. Maybe you got a gangster dad. I doubt it. Not everybody can be like Johnny nuts. But if you do or if you don't, send us an email. All right, real quick, Johnny had mentioned this film should be played loud. He's referencing our new video podcast, which is available exclusively for our all access members over on Patreon.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Our first episode was on Goodfellas. Our second episode is on Trainspotting. this podcast combines mine and Dr. Zeth Lundy's love for music and film. We look at one film for each episode and discuss the music in that film, the great music in that film, okay? And given our tastes and what we do here, a lot of these films, as we're sort of deciding what we're going to cover, are crime-based. So it's all sort of in the world of disgrace land and Hollywood land. But we're not dissecting the filmmaking that much. We're more dissecting how the music is impacting the filmmaking, the scoring, the needle drops, the soundtracks, all of that.
Starting point is 00:26:37 So obviously, Goodfellas, incredible music and an incredible approach to music in that film. And same goes for train spotting. which we just filmed the train spotting episode last week. The edit, I think the edit is done, and it's coming out for you guys on Wednesday. So before you get the next after party, the new this film should be played loud will be released. Now, if you guys are already Patreon members,
Starting point is 00:27:09 we've got a couple different tiers. You can be a free member, and that gets you just, you know, you can sort of like check out everything we got going on over there. You can be a member for a dollar, or a month, and that'll allow you access to the chat. You can get to talk to the disco community. Give me a $5 member. That gets you a bunch of exclusive content, add for you listening. Gets you a lot, actually. But to get this film should be played loud. You've got to be a member
Starting point is 00:27:34 at the $10 tier. And you get some extra things as well. You get the video version of the exclusive section of the after party. You get invited to a meeting of the disgrace land brain trust a couple times a year where we're going to sit down and we're going to formally choose which episodes we'll be researching and releasing. And like I said, you get this film should be played loud. So my point, if you're not a member of all access at the $10 level, the quote unquote sound in fury tier, head over to disgracelandpod.com and sign up and know that you are super appreciated supporting our show on Patreon or Apple Podcasts. It helps us make all this additional content, which is something that we obviously love to do for you guys.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Again, that's disgracelandpod.com to sign up. I'll be back right after this with a little, little tiny, tiny little sports update and more. All right, we are back. Thanks for hanging with us here in this after-party bonus episode of Disgraceland. Listen, I'm a Patriots fan. You guys know that. And I cannot believe what is happening this season. You know, I like to jump on the mic occasionally and get in here and do these sports rants
Starting point is 00:28:57 and just, you know, kind of give you about 30 to 60 seconds of my New England sports cynicism. But I got to say right now, not a lot to complain about basically a rookie quarterback, second year, and we're going to the AFC championship game. I cannot believe where we are at. And listen, I want to frame this. I don't want to boast, okay? I saw a stat yesterday that said that the New England Patriots, after this championship game, will have been fully indebted.
Starting point is 00:29:27 and 50% of the championship games played in the NFL in this century. That is incredible. We obviously had a fall from greatness when Tom Brady left. And we were down in the hole looking up, and I didn't know how long it was going to take for some sort of rebuild to happen. It happened way quicker than I think anybody anticipated. And I just have to say,
Starting point is 00:29:53 my heart goes out for all of you with football franchises. in your hometowns, the Jets fans, the Bills fans. I mean, hell, even the Steelers fans out there, the Browns fans, all of you guys who are just getting your heartbroken year after year, either in the playoffs and coming up short like you guys in Buffalo, or just maybe you're just like, like I got a friend down here who's a Jets fan and I just cannot believe. I'm like, dude, how?
Starting point is 00:30:21 How do you do it? I feel for you guys, all right? I'm not boasting. Literally, I'm empathizing. Okay. That said, go Pats. I had to get that off my chest. We do some sports here occasionally. Like I said, 30 to 60 seconds, not trying to get it twisted. And that wasn't a ramp, by the way. That was the opposite of a rant. I apologize if you hear anything banging around the background here. In the middle of a little studio reorganization, doing a little bit of a, I don't want to call it a rebuild, but things are definitely in flux. getting this space set up to do a lot more video.
Starting point is 00:31:01 And I'm actually recording super early today. And I'm recording early because I've got to go to the doctor. I'm going to get a stress test. What's that all about? I'm not stressed. But you know what they say? Stress is the silent killer, I guess. So it doesn't hurt to get that checked out.
Starting point is 00:31:20 I'm not trying to turn this into a public service announcement. I'm just trying to kill some time while I, cruise through my computer here and find the next the outline of this of this episode. Oh yes, here we go. Okay, what was I going to say? I was going to direct you guys to the Hollywoodland podcast. You know about the Hollywoodland podcast hosted by Dr. Zethlundi, my partner in crime. Hollywoodland is available now for you guys three times a week, if you can believe that. Film fans, we have our classic archive episodes giving you the true crime biography. of some of your favorite actors, actresses, and directors.
Starting point is 00:31:59 And then we take that episode and use it as a jumping off point. I say we, I should say Zest because he's the guy, like I said, helming things over there. And Zeth gets into a discussion about that artist, about their crimes. And another episode called The Rap Party. And the Rap Party, of course, leads into the screening room, which ties that artist in subject matter to something a little more topic. It is a weekly tripod of Hollywood in crime awesomeness. Go to the Hollywood Land feed to subscribe and follow on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Speaking of Apple Podcasts, speaking of Spotify, guys, appreciate the reviews. A couple of you have reached out to me with your addresses, those of you whose reviews I read on the show in the last few weeks. For those of you in the audience who are like, what the hell is he talking about? well, if you leave a review for disgrace land on Apple Podcasts and I find it and I read it here on the show and you hear it and you get in touch with me and let me know, 617-90666-6638 voicemail and text, I will then get back to you and get you some merch as a thank you. The reviews help with Discovery. They are crucial for an independent show like ours.
Starting point is 00:33:16 And that's why we are pimping ourselves out here. And this review is just perfect. Absolutely perfect. The username JT, JT, JT, JT, JT, JT, JT, JT, Jr. I think I got that right. Says, just listen, five stars. If you miss that feeling from great school, when that one kid with the weird parents
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Starting point is 00:33:57 listen to the Jerry Lee Lewis episode or the Tom Petty up or the Merle Haggard up or the Jay-Z up. Well, just pick one. You kind of can't miss. You nailed it there by the kid with the weird parents told you about Ozzy snort and a line of ants. That was absolutely me in grade school. Getting a lot of this information from my dad. So yeah, there we go. My dad, who is a researcher for a double Elvis, kind of comes full circle. in touch j t j t j t 617 9066638 spencer lowe 95 writes on spotify on the johnny thunder's episode best episode and a long time great storytelling and johnny is the perfect subject for disgrace land wonder what happened to his guitars i do too imagine having johnny thunder is the guitars oh my goodness
Starting point is 00:34:43 get in touch spencer get you some merch all right we're about to get into the exclusive section of this after party and talk about some of the wilder events that have gone down at award shows past, not just the Grammys. You're going to be an all-access member to cop that content. Go to disgracelandpod.com to sign up and get all-access exclusive material, ad-free listening, and more. All right, guys, thanks for joining us for another episode of the Disgraceland After Party Bonus show.
Starting point is 00:35:27 We mentioned In Excess, Metallica, the Who, Whitney Houston, George Michael, all artists who have been covered in Disgracedland before. Check out our archive for these stories and more. Matt will have the episode information in the show notes. All right, let's recap, shall we? Number one, this week, our new episode on the runaways is available for you guys to to listen to right now. Number two, in the rewind slot this week coming up right after this bonus episode, we've
Starting point is 00:35:51 got part one and part two of NWA. Number three, next week, another two-parter on Lady Gaga. That's a new episode. Number four, Zeth gives you those Hollywood and crime vibes in Hollywood Lansom, make sure you're subscribed. Number five, this film should be played loud, our new video podcast. Episode two is coming next week on train spotting. Go to disgracehandpod.com to sign up and become an all-access member so you can get that content.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Number 6-6-906-66-6-6-3-8, your voice. It keeps us digging into the dark corners of music history. So keep calling, texting with your answers to this week's question of the week. With whatever else you want to talk about, number seven, don't forget discos. This isn't just content. It's a community, a community of the obsessed. No one cares about music, books, records, and all the crime and grime. It ties them all together like you do.
Starting point is 00:36:36 and well, that's a disgrace. All right, March 16th, 1976. That was the day this week's full episode subject of disgrace land. The Runaways released their debut album. This is what America was listening to on that day, according to the Billboard charts. Number one, December, 1963. Oh, what a night, the four seasons.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Last week, one. Peak position, one. Weeks on chart, 13. Number two, all by. myself, Eric Carmen. Last week, two. Peak position, two. Weeks on sharp, 14.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Number three, Dreamweaver, Gary Wright, last year, six, peak position, three, weeks on sharp, 12. Number four, take it to the limit. Eagles. Last week, four, peak position, four, weeks on sharp, 14.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Number five, Angel Fuss Talking and start mixing Cut it!

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