DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode: Hanging with Hip Hop Stars, the VMAs, and the Return of the Biggest Band on the Planet

Episode Date: September 11, 2025

This week in the After Party, Jake contrasts the cultural irrelevancy of the MTV Video Music Awards with the triumphant return of Oasis to stadiums and the public consciousness. Plus, your voicemails, DMs, and emails, including a report from a listener who attended a recent Oasis concert. On Tuesday, we're bringing you a new episode on Jimmy Buffet, and Jake wants to know: Are there artists that you once couldn't stand that now you find yourself loving? Which artist has grown on you over time? Share your thoughts at 617-906 6638, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or on socials @disgracelandpod. To listen to an extended version of the After Party and hear Jake and Zeth's movie and music recommendations, become a Disgraceland All Access member at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠disgracelandpod.com/membership⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.⁠⁠ For more great Disgraceland episodes, dive into our extensive archive, including such episodes as: Episode 42 - Madonna Episode 62 - Ice-T Episode 69 & 70 - Tupac Shakur pts. 1 and 2 Episode 92 - Taylor Swift Episode 171 - Public Enemy To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is exactly right. Double Elvis. When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist, they take matters into their own hands. I vowed. I will be his last target. He is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves. We always say that trust your girlfriends. Listen to the girlfriends.

Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When like young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever. My first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? Rather be disappointed in. Do that.

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Hey, Discos, need a little more disgrace land in your life? Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the After Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the after party. This is the show, after the show, the party after the party,

the bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. Our mission to uncover the truth to confront the myth to reclaim the story on this bonus episode. We're talking about this week's full episode subject, part two of our 50 cents story. We're rewinding back to our Rolling Stones episodes and revisiting Oasis as well, previewing our upcoming episode on Jimmy Buffett, and we get into your voicemails, text, DMs, and as always, a whole lot of Rosie. This is the podcast for The Musically Obsessed, The Outsiders, the Independent thinkers who know that the best history is the history that gets buried. Disgraceland is where I tell the stories they didn't want told, the kind you'll end up telling someone else.

All right, discos, let's get into it. All right, if you were lucky enough to see Oasis on their latest run, know that I sit here burning in jealousy. The band announced this morning that they're going to do more shows for their upcoming 30th anniversary next year at Nebworth. They must have heard our rewind episodes last week and were reminded of how badass they are and how the music world needs them performing to save us from whatever the hell the MTV video music awards were the other night. Thirst and Moore from Sonic Youth tweeted that the VMAs is really the bottoming out of music culture. And I cannot say that I disagree. Separately, it's hard to even call what was happening at the VMA's culture. So much of it seemed fabricated to me, put on, faked.

Are those people up front really that stoke to see somber perform? Really? part of the VMAs was always canned and for the cameras, even back of the day. But long gone is the cultural resonance of Snoop performing his hit single in 1994. Murder was the case and then turning himself into police moments later on a murder beef or Kurt and Courtney sniping backstage with Axel or Madonna making out with Brittany or even Kanye bum rushing Taylor. Sure, these seem more important because they took place during our formative years, but they really were more important than whatever the hell happened the other night at the VMAs. No one is talking about the VMAs,

not really. Sure, conversation is being manufactured, but I make it my business to try and get a wide view of music culture. I follow and consume modern music media, and organically, I can tell you, the cultural impact of the VMAs is small. No one. one really cares. But people are still talking about those oasis gigs that happened in Los Angeles last weekend. People really care about that. Somehow, two Irishmen from Manchester, England in their 50s, who never really broke in America before, have conquered America without a single and with only nostalgia. And the reason isn't just because their music is great. It's because of what we traffic in here in disgrace land. Mythology. The myth of Oasis,

age, it transcends style, it transcends oceans, it separate continents. Blur might have had the bigger hit in the U.S. back in the day. And arguably, and I'm saying arguably, not definitively, and I'm letting the word might do a lot of work here in this sentence. Some people, not me, might claim that blur arguably has a better catalog of albums. But in the end, Oasis won the Brit Pop War. They conquered America two decades after the fact. because of the myths surrounding who they are. And none of that rock and roll mythology is put on or can't. Oasis didn't rule the summer of 2025, both here and across the pond because of a new single

or a new album or an unexpected viral video on TikTok or whatever else. Oasis conquered because everyone loves rock and roll mythology and Oasis are mythic. They are legends to the. their core, truly authentic, 100% themselves, unafraid to say exactly what they think, fearless in the face of trends, in the face of each other, ready to throw down with whomever, willing to brawl with themselves with the world,

like the hoodlums that they are at their core, like true rock and roll stars. Not prefab, focus group tested, algorithm-approved artists like somber or pick whichever other lame, musician performed the other night that made you throw up in your mouth while you were watching the VMAs. Whatever that was, OASIS is the exact opposite. And they've been that for years. OASIS didn't need canned responses from some bullshit digital marketing campaign. The myth didn't

need to be manufactured because the myth already exists. We don't need corporations. We don't need algorithms, we don't need chasm to tell our stories. We never did. And if OASIS proved anything this summer, it's that we still don't. If you want to hear exactly what I'm talking about, check out the two Oasis episodes that are in the feed right now and hear how the band rose through the crime and grime of working class Manchester into what they are today. We've also got another legend in your feed right now, another outspoken legend, I should say. I'd love to hear a conversation between Liam Gallagher in 50 cent. By the way, Liam just says in a side,

Liam Gallagher dissing Mark Zuckerberg is just Mark Zuckerberg, if you haven't seen this, posted a pick of him and his wife at Oasis. And I forget what Liam's quote was, or his comment on the post was, it was something like go home nerd or something like that. It's just fucking perfect.

I'd love to hear Liam Gallagher in 50s. talking. Let's let's make that happen. But anyways, in your feed right now, our part two episode on 50 cent and the myths surrounding who exactly was responsible for shooting 50, 50, 50, whatever the hell you want to call them. That's our new part two episode on 50 cent. And coming up next in your feed immediately after this bonus episode, we are rewinding our Rolling Stones, parts one and two. If you want to dip back into the way back British pop star machine and get a glimpse of what the tabloid scaffolding that would support. and consume oasis later in the 90s was all about.

This is a good piece of music history for context, okay? Rolling Stones, Part 1 and 2. Check that out. Next week, I can't wait. I can't wait for next week's episode of disgrace land. God's own drunk hits your feed when Jimmy Buffett drifts into your ears. Will he arrive on a drug trafficker's cigarette boat, or will he arrive half-stoneed and just a tiny bit loaded on his Boston whaler?

Or will he show up with Bono fresh from dodging Jamaican bullets? you're going to have to listen to find out so, so, so, so, so, so much information in this Jimmy Buffett story. We couldn't cram it all into a 30-minute episode, but I've got a way to bring you more of the music and true crime on the reg in a different format. I'm excited to share with you more on that in coming weeks, though, right now back to the King of the Parrotheads. I couldn't stand Jimmy Buffett growing up, and I'm sure there's a bunch of you who feel the same. I'm sure the opposite is true, too. I know there are Jimmy Buffett fans out there listening right now because you recommended this episode.

You got me hip to Jimmy Buffett. And now I've got nothing but respect for the son of a son of a sailor. And I can tell you firsthand that those first five or six albums, for all the Buffett doubters out there, those first five or six albums are pretty great. They truly are. If you're into the band,

the sort of early 70s, I guess all of the 70s, Dylan's stuff, even some grand parsons at alt country stuff like give that early pre-margaritaville jimmy buffett stuff a listen you're not going to be disappointed and when you're listening to jimmy buffett next week the jimmy buffett episode of disgrace land next week i should be more clear when you're listening to that episode i want you to be thinking about which artists did you previously just dislike not be able to stand that you now find yourself loving this is a long

list for me. Okay, Genesis. Anything Phil Collins, really. Steely, Dan, you know my history with the Grateful Dead, but I want to know which artists you now love that you once hated. 617-90666-6638 voicemail and text with your answers to next week's question of the week. I'll be back right after this with your answers to last week's question of the week. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that, trust your girlfriends.

I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends... Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care, so they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves.

Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Your husband is not who you think he is. Your body is not what you thought it was. Your identity is formed by a secret history. I'm Danny Shapiro. And these are just a few of the stunning stories I'll be exploring on the 14th season of family secrets. Just then, we felt the plain turn in the air, so much so that the bags that were under people's seats just kind of flew into the aisle.

Each week, we dive headfirst into the complex power of secrecy, how it shapes our identities and relationships, and how it ultimately can reveal to us our truest selves. My daughter, she's pretending she doesn't know, but is trying to cook and feed me and keep me alive because I wasn't eating anything and me pretending like everything was fine. He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move. And he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off. And that was the last time I saw him. Listen to season 14 of Family Secrets, starting May 7th on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When, like, young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever.

And my first thing is always, can you think of anything else? that you can do rather be disappointed in. Do that. Dennis Leary. I wake up and I'm hitting him in the head with a water bomb. And Bruce Jenner is on the aisle in a karate stance. Like he's about to attack me. Like making karate noises.

And his entire the Kardashian family over there, everybody's going, and the air marshal is trying to grab my arms and screaming. And I immediately know that I've been asleepwalking. David O'Yellow-O. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Guy Branham. So anyway, Nicole Kimman broke up with Keith Durbin. Being half of a country couple was always a hat she was going to wear, not like a life she was going to lead.

Oh, interesting. I like that. Did you practice that on your way over? Gaten Matarazzo from Stranger Things. Tena, monjeu. Camilla Morone. Kenny Silver and more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the Iheart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Guys, the 2025 MTV Video Music Awards are what happens when we let corporations steer the culture. That's where we're at right now, unfortunately, in 2025, when music's driven by marketing departments instead of what we're calling myth. Now, if you feel like today's music culture doesn't reflect the stuff you care about. You're not wrong and you're not alone. And that's why disgrace land exists. And this is what me and the disco community are up to in the Patreon chat on the regular daily discussing and obsessing over the legends and myths and music history that matter most, reclaiming the sanitized music history stories from the chasm gaykeepers, revealing what really happened, Elliot Smith, and arming you with stories about music legends

that will make you dangerous at Dism. dinner party. So if you want a like-minded community of music and culture obsessives, access to me and Zeth on the reg and no ads, head to disgracelandpod.com slash membership and become a member of our little club today for just under five bucks a month before prices go up. Every week, guys, every week, I'm in the same damn spot at the same damn time. Right now, you know where I'm at. I'm in the phone booth. This is the one across the hall. I'm hanging on the telephone, hoping to pick up that sweet comfort of your voices and get your answers to last week's question of the week. Which hip hop star living or dead would you most want to hang out with

or grab a drink with or whatever? We asked this because obviously of our 50 cent part two episode in the feed. Karen from the 646 hit us up. Let's hear from Karen. Hey Jake, what's up? It's Karen in the 646. I don't know if I'm too late. I just heard your question from the bonus episode like which hip hop are if you want to talk to and spend some time with and have a drink with and ask questions and just have a good conversation with. And immediately I thought, Chuck D, of course. Rock and roll, bro. Karen, Chuck D, you know, I, that, if it weren't for 50 cent, that would be my answer.

I can make a, I can make a case for Q-Tip as well. A lot of people said Chuck D. Karen, you're not alone. Let's go to Tony in the 206. Jake, what's going on, brother Tony from the 206? To answer your question, I would want to have a couple of questions. I would want to have a conversation, sit down, a conversation with none of the legend himself, L.L. Cool J. I mean, the man essentially has kind of been around since the birth of hip hop.

You got to remember, he was the first act sign to death jam. He's the first solo rapper to go platinum. So, you know, he's got tons of stories. The guy was around 80s, 90s, especially, you know, what was it like making that transition into acting, but still also being, you know, still known as a legitimate rapper. You know, did he really have a problem with Tupac over the fact that him and Tupac at one point both dated Cadada Jones, allegedly? But, you know, yeah, that would be the guy who I really want to have a conversation with.

Much love. Love this episode. Peace. L.L. Cool, J. Great choice. He goes so far back. back to the beginning. I mean, living icon, this guy, not that Chuck D. isn't. But Tony, I love this one, and I love this one because I'm going to tell you a very, very quick story. Not so long ago, I found myself on a Zoom, or about to join a Zoom that I knew L.L. Cool J was going to be on.

It was this going to be me and Todd. That's his real name. We were told in advance to make sure we call him Todd. It was just going to be me, Todd, my business partner at the time, and, and Todd's guy. And most times I get into these zooms, I get into these, you know, a little bit early. And the way it works in Hollywood, they have like, or get the high level of music industry. Forgive me if you guys know this stuff, whatever. I'm just saying it for those who don't. Typically, the artist, a big artist like that, their representation is on the phone first without them.

and it's such a power move. I kind of love it. They don't, so the star won't come onto the call or into the Zoom until their rep lets them know that everybody's there. So, and I get it. It's, I wouldn't do that, but I understand. It's like they're trying to manage their time. You could say, you know, generously, that's the reason for this.

Or they just don't want to fuck around with small talk with people they don't know. So they come in at the absolute last minute and then they arrest. right down to business. They're super charming. They make you feel good and then you're right into what you're going to talk about. So I get on the Zoom expecting that to happen. And I get on the Zoom and it's literally just me and LL CoolJ. And he just goes, the first thing he says is double Elvis in that LL Cool J voice because he saw it pop up on my Zoom moniker. And he couldn't have been cooler. He was attentive. He was informed. He knew what was. up and like all A-list celebrities that I've met and been around, they make you, the A-list celebrities

make you feel great. They come at you with all that charm and you're just like, oh, fuck, I totally get why this guy is so fucking famous and successful. B-list celebrities, kind of the same thing, kind of to a lesser degree. C-list celebrities, that's when the sort of, you like, you can feel, you can feel the, what is it, you can feel some insecurity and perhaps some venom. You can feel a little bit of, I don't know, angst, you know what I'm saying? And this is not my take, by the way. This comes from Paul Shear, who, lovely guy. I just ran into him randomly one night at a bar and we got to talking and he told me this story.

And then I went on his podcast and went on how did this get made. And we talked about it there as well with his partner, Jason, but this is his theory. I don't want to take credit for it. I want to confirm it. L.L. Cool J confirms it. And yeah, I guess I didn't hang with LL. I had a business meeting with him, but it was still very, very, very cool. Kevin from the 314, so I can stop talking to here. Play the 314, Matt. I'm calling in. You asked about who would you like to talk? Why? That's right. I mean, come on. The guy was a legend in that world.

He came an actor, body count. The guy turning to a MEDALEC, a MEDAW. And it's unheard of. Peace out. Rock and roll. All right, Kevin. I got a quibble with the hating hip hop comment. I don't know how that's possible. I don't know how you, how do you hate iced tea? So if I'm listening to you correctly,

you like body count, but you don't like ice tea, rap stuff. And I just, you know, well, I like that you want to hang out with him anyways. Maybe he'll, maybe he'll open your mind to hip hop. I hope so. 716 text in on the same question.

This always feels like a flex. when I say it out loud, hey, I don't care about flexing. I'd share your stories, man. 716 says, it might sound like a flex when I say it out loud, but it kind of is I would spend more time with Chuck D. Yep, more time. After his book, Fight the Power, rap, race, and reality, I got to see Chuck D talk about it. It's such a robust piece of work. And at that time, I ran a nonprofit and got to spend a little bit of time with them afterwards talking about generational poverty and housing issues. It was the most interesting and meaningful conversation of my career. Love that, 7-1. I love that you got to hang with Chuck D. You were very lucky.

Super cool. All right, what are we doing here? Let's go to the, I'm going to read you a text here from the 904. If I can find it. Where's it at? Where's it at? Where's it at? Right here.

Jake, Spencer, from the 904. In today's after party, Spencer's referring to the last after party. Are you talking about a toot in a snore, the session of John Paul and see? If so, it exists. I've listened to it. It's them jamming. Stand by me and other songs. It's fantastic. You can even hear John Ask Stevie if you want to bump at one point. Spencer, I love this. And I got to apologize to everybody out there. I thought this was some actual real mythic piece of content that no one could get their hands on. I had no idea you could just go on YouTube and find this. And I feel really stupid. So that's going to happen. We're all going to feel stupid in our lives.

Spencer, thanks for pointing us out. I guess, you know, guys, what we're talking about last week we were talking about mythical recording sessions, and we talked about John Lennon, Paul McCartney, and Steve, you wonder, and I always heard that Ringo was there, too. Spencer, I might not be wrong, but y'all configured this out for yourselves now. You don't need me. You can go to YouTube and just snore, and just snore, and just search for a toot and a snore. There you go. Thank you, Spencer. Over in what part of the world we're going to next? Let's go to the 9-16. Hey, it's Mr. Taylor from Raleigh, North Carolina. I'm sitting here in Los Angeles, California, after what is arguably maybe the best concert I've ever seen.

Oasis at the Rose Bowl. It was every bit as epic as was promised. It was better than I could have imagined. The band is just so tight. Liam is every bit the streetwalking cheetah he ever was. because they had us in the palm of their hand for the entire show. 80,000 fans could not get enough. It was just an endless sea of the happiest people you've ever seen witnessing a band in their prime,

which is crazy to think because it's been 30 years and they're still doing this at the highest level. The show was incredible. The screens were amazing. The set pieces were just so fascinating and interesting. And everybody in that entire stadium was having the time of their lives. Great show. I'm at a loss for words at how well they have put this together, how great they looked and sounded. Oasis is maybe the biggest rock band in the world right now because they belong in stadiums like that.

And they will pack a stadium every time they show up because it's the best. show on Earth. That's all I got to say. Rock and roll it, Jake. I'm at a loss for words. 916, you are confirming the first 500 words of this episode here, my rave on Oasis. And I'm happy you were there. I have extreme FOMO, not going to these shows. I don't have a lot of regrets in life. This is one of them. I might have to go to Nebworth. Might be happening. I don't know. Where the hell is Nebworth? I don't even know. All right, guys, usually I talked about this yesterday in the Patreon to some of the Patreon listeners.

Used to be, I'd just release 24 episodes a year. I'd release one every other week, not even every other week. It was, you know, that was the schedule. And it was more of an event when a disgrace and episode would come out. Now we've got, we're always on. We've got multiple episodes per week. Feels less like an event on social media. When I would do just 24 a year, I'd release one, I'd wake up in the morning, I'd open

Instagram and Facebook and there'd be this, you know, a lot of people, lots of big conversation immediately, just like that. Now the conversation, there's a big conversation, but it's always happening. It's always on just like the episodes. It doesn't feel as eventized, and it's also fragmented. We're talking about a gazillion different things at once. We're not spending as much time talking about, you know, one single episode, like 50 Cent part two this week. What I did yesterday, I went on Patreon in the afternoon, and I just started a live stream. and I started talking to some folks. And I think I'm going to do that every Tuesday on release days with new episodes.

And if you're around, you're in the Patreon chat. Get on in there on Tuesdays and we'll chop it up about, I guess next week we'll be talking about Jimmy Buffett. All right. So the parrot heads, this is your chance. This is your chance. You want escapism disgrace land style. You're going to get it firsthand from me next Tuesday in the Patreon chat.

I don't know, sometime, EST afternoon. Maybe I'll push it seven, eight early evening. so West Coast folks can jump in. I know we've got a lot of listeners in California and Los Angeles. Speaking of listeners, I want to shout out Kimberly Harris from the Patreon community for being an especially awesome disgrace land all access member. She's always in the chat. She's always bringing something new information-wise, bringing something new to the community. She's obviously appreciated by all. Plus, she just had a birthday. So Kimberly, if you're listening, know that we appreciate you and then I'm personally grateful for your continued support. And I am no Mitch. Big shout out to everyone else who jumped into the unannounced live stream on Tuesday night with me. Let's do more of that.

I'm going to take a quick break. I'll be back in a flash. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield.

And in this new season of The Girlfriends, Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no.

I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the Girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Your husband is not who you think he is. Your body is not what you thought it was.

Your identity is formed by a secret history. I'm Danny Shapiro, and these are just a few of the stunning stories I'll be exploring on the 14th season of Family Secrets. And just then, we felt the plain turn in the air, so much so that the bags that were under people's seats just kind of flew into the aisle. Each week, we dive headfirst into the complex power of secrecy,

how it shapes our identities and relationships, and how it ultimately can reveal to us our truest selves. My daughter, she's pretending she doesn't know, but is trying to cook and feed me and keep me alive because I wasn't eating anything, and me pretending like everything was fine. He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move, and he went out the front door,

and he jumped in a car and drove off, and that was the last time I saw him. Listen to season 14 of Family Secrets, starting May 7th on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When like young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever, my first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do?

Rather be disappointed in. Do that. Dennis Leary. I wake up and I'm hitting him in the head. with a water bomb. And Bruce Jenner is on the aisle in a karate stance, like he's about to attack me, like, making karate noises.

And his entire, the Kardashian family over there, everybody's going, and the air marshal is trying to grab my arms and screaming. I immediately know that I've been asleep walking. David O'Yello. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts.

Guy Branham. So anyway, Nicole Kidman broke up with Keith Thurban. Being half of a country couple was always a hat she was going to wear, not like a life she was going to lead. Oh, interesting. I like that. Did you practice that on your way over? Gaten Madarazzo from Stranger Things. Tena Monsu.

Camilla Morone at Carrie Kenny Silver. And more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. So this week in Hollywoodland on our Hollywoodland podcast, we let loose our Carrie Fisher episode from the vault into the archive, into the wild. You can hear that now. And you can hear Zeth talking movie history and true crime in the rap party episode as well. So we do a full episode from the archive of Hollywoodland every week. Plus, Zeth does his version of a bonus episode called The Rap Party, which people are loving. And I'm psyched for that. And I'm psyched that you're

all welcoming Zeth and supporting him in the community. This wasn't really planned. It just kind of happened. And it's, you know, Zest's got his own thing going on. He's got a point of view on a lot of stuff. And you guys, you guys are down with it. And I love that. I love that. So subscribe to Hollywood land wherever you get your podcast. You want a little bit more true crime, but this from the Hollywood side of defense. Seth and I used to drop our music and movie wrecks in the rap party in the Hollywood Land feed. But from now on, they are going to live here in the after party inside the exclusive section. This week, I've got some killer music picks related to Carrie Fisher, if you can believe that. Zeth's got his movie recommendations. And I might even

throw together a little playlist just for the all access members. But to hear it and to get all that, you can get everything else where dropping weekly, you got to be an all access member. Go to disgraceandpot.com slash membership. Sign up now for just five bucks a month while he still can. That price, like I said, is going up soon. And the recommendations, it's just the start of it. All right. Just the start of what you're going to get as a disgrace land, All Access member. Get a little taste.

Matt, give them a little taste here this week's exclusive segment to the show that you're going to be missing. If you're not an All Access member, guys, this is me and Zeth going deep into the recommendations, Rabinal. All right, let me get to the next recommendation here. Fisherman's Blues, okay? Carrie, Carrie Fisher, Fisherman's Blues by the Water Boys. Water Boys, yeah.

1988 album of the same name. Zeth Lundy, what's up with the Water Boys and why are they my new favorite band? What is, this song is fucking tremendous. It's so good. Have you heard that new Dennis Hopper record they have?

It's like some song cycle about Dennis Hopper or something. Isn't that the Water Boys? I think so. The Water Boys have come up so much recently. And going as far back, talking about the 90s to high school when I was like moving furniture in Boston

for Dan's van. the Irish guys, just constantly trying to get me to listen to the Waterboys. And I never, I never did. Was the dude from, was the dude from World Party in that band originally, right? They have a song called World Party. And I don't know the answer to your question. I think he was. Who was the, like, the main songwriter in that band. Do you remember? Mike Scott, I believe is his name. Huh. Okay, cool. Waterboys are kind of a blind spot for me, honestly. Big blind spot for me. I'm remedying that today. This song, Fisherman's Blues, I put it on this morning and I was I was it's not even like a happy go lucky's it's not it's not it's kind of like mid tempo it just is it's it's got rock and roll abandoned at its core like like Dylan in the 70s with a band behind him like the best version of that that's what it reminded me of like street legal or something like that it was so fucking good and it just I had a moment this morning like a life affirming moment that music will do to you every once in a while and it was this.

song and it just, it blew my mind. And, you know, the refrain is I want to be a fisher, fisherman or something like that. I mean, you know, I want to be a fucking fisherman. I really, truly do. All righty, www.discreacelandpod.com slash membership to become a disgraceland all-access member and to be in the know on the greatest music and movie recommendations from the worlds of music history and Hollywood history and true crime. This 60 seconds sports rant in under 30 seconds is once again sponsored by five-hour energy, five-hour energy shots, bring tasty caffeine in 17 flavors, head to your local retailer or www.5hour energy.com or Amazon to order yours today. I just bang back my extra strength grape five hour energy drink and I am determined to get

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