DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode: Happy Xmas (War Is Over) and Other Great Music History Christmas Moments

Episode Date: December 11, 2025

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Hey, Discos, need a little more disgrace land in your life? Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the After Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the after party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of disgrace land to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. Our mission to uncover the truth, to confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode, we are discussing the biggest Christmas moments from music history, Phil Specter and John Lennon, a massive new announcement from myself and the folks here at Double Elvis. And we get into your emails, comments,

DMs, and as always, a whole lot of rosy. This is the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers, who know that the best history is the history that gets buried. Disgraceland is where I tell the stories they didn't want told, the kind you'll end up telling someone else. All right, discos, let's get into it. Two days ago, I heard a Christmas song.

I never heard before, and it stopped me in my tracks. I was scrolling Instagram and up-pop the reel with the performer, singing his ass off and feeling every note of the song and every fiber of his being. I went immediately to Spotify to hear the full tune and by the time the course hit, no joke, my eyes were tearing up. This song was Christmas Must Be Tonight by the band.

Rick Danko's voice in this tune, it's got so much emotion in it, just the effortless kind of emotion, not the contrived kind. And the story, the lyrics about a man witnessing the birth, of Jesus, witnessing a miracle. It's gutting. And of course, it's the band. So the feel that the song has is as powerful as the vocal in the lyrics. When the tune ended, I had that great feeling that we're all very familiar with, the feeling of catharsis, of exhilaration, that feeling that only great

music can provide. And that revelation, that holy shit moment, as soon as it faded, I felt something else. I felt stupidity. If this song was so great, how come I'd never heard it before? It's not like it was from some obscure artist I'm unfamiliar with. This is the band we're talking about. I just spent an entire week and a half blabbing about the band with you guys here and on Patreon and social during the Thanksgiving holiday. I don't have a reason other than to say that, you know, we can't be aware of everything. This song, Christmas must be tonight. It's on the band's last album with Robbie Robertson, a record called Islands. And, you know, this 1977 album, it's not that great. It's not really an album either. It's a collection of previously recorded

outtakes of which Christmas must be tonight is one. The tune is recorded as a single in 1975. And the Braintrust at Capitol Records decided that it wasn't good enough to release. So the song didn't see the light until a couple years later when it was buried into the sequencing of the album called Islands at the end of Side 1. An album released by a band that was over, okay?

Islands comes out after the last waltz and, you know, after Robbie Robertson, the band's primary songwriter, had left and made it clear that he didn't want anything else to do with the band. A little side note, we've done a lot of band talk, like I just said, and

we've never really dove into the beef between Levan Helm and Robbie Robertson, and what it was that Levin accused Robbie of doing to him and the rest of the members of the band. It's ugly, murky, and I've always avoided this story because I like to keep these guys pure in my mind, but today, in the exclusive section of this after-party, I'm going to have Zeth take me through these accusations and the ins and outs of this saga, and we're going to look into what Levant said and what Robbie did or did not do. Hopefully we learn a thing or two. That's coming up at the end of this episode. Go to disgracelandpod.com to become an all-access member if you're not one already so they can hear this in more exclusive

content every week plus ad-free listening. All right, back to the excellent band holiday tune, Christmas Must Be Tonight. The fact that the song was released after the band was done is unfortunate because I can see an alternate reality where Christmas must be tonight is a massive hit. It's that great. And when you listen to it, you can easily imagine it being released as a single and hitting as a single and working its way into the zeitgeist of late 70s, rock and roll music and culture, and ultimately becoming a cultural touch point that we return to every holiday season like we do with Mariah Carey or Wham and Sir Paul and so many others. But Christmas must be tonight. It never had its moment. And so it remains buried in the basement of music history.

but the song got me thinking about other great Christmas moments for music history. And it's a fun topic because there are many. There's the release of this week's full episode subject, Phil Specter's genius Christmas album, A Christmas Gift for You, released on November 22nd, 1963. The day President John F. Kennedy was shot. We talk about this, obviously, in this week's full episode on Phil, it's a crazy story.

Phil's album ended up giving birth to another great, music history moment that would come much later, Christmas moment, I should say. And that was the tradition of singer Darlene Love, the tradition she created by performing her great version of the Spector produced Merry Christmas, Baby, Please Come Home, every year on David Letterman's show here in the United States. A tradition that I got to say, I really miss. It was great. I loved it. I looked forward to it every year. It's fantastic. There's also John Lennon and Yoko Ono's Excellent protest song. Happy Christmas War is Over. Released on December 1st, 1971.

Now, that was a moment for sure. The song came with billboards, and it came with a bunch of blowback and consternation from American radio stations who refused to play the song. At first, anyways, because they thought it was too political. But eventually it warmed its way into the zeitgeist, and now it returns to us every holiday season, and the lyrics are quite humbling and pretty great still, to this day. And then, of course, there's the granddaddy of weird Christmas music history moments from 1977, where David Bowie appeared with Bing Crosby to duet on The Little Drummer Boy slash Peace on Earth, a moment that I think a lot of us are still trying to figure out.

Anyways, these great Christmas moments, holiday moments, whatever we want to call them from music history, they help shape how we all experience the holiday season to this day. And I'm grateful for it, even if I don't wake up every December clamoring to hear Bowie Bing's version of a tune that I never really like that much to begin with. But nonetheless, I am, like most people, a creature of habit. And I get nostalgic, just like you guys. And also, like most people, I'm a fan of our cultural traditions. So it's interesting to think about how much music influences those traditions. Now, it's too bad that the band's Christmas must be tonight never had its moment. And that this great song, that it's not part of our larger

cultural tradition every holiday season. But who knows? Maybe the internet is about to do its thing and shine a new light on this tune. Maybe. Maybe its moment is coming. Maybe we're part of the beginning of it right now. I don't know. But I highly recommend that you guys give this band tune a spin this holiday season, whether you've heard it or not. You've heard it before. Go check it out. If you have not heard it, check it out, you won't be disappointed. Okay. So, speaking of John and Yoko, this week, December 8th, is the anniversary of John Lennon's death, which is important. part why we're featuring our Lenin episodes in the Rewind Spot coming up right after this bonus episode. We also chose these rewind episodes because of John's connection to Phil Spector,

this week's full episode subject of disgrace land. Next week, we're featuring Shane McGowan in the feed, and well, that's obviously because of the Pog's excellent Christmas tune, one of, if not, the greatest Christmas tune of all, Fairy Tale of New York. When you guys are listening to this story, be thinking about which Christmas songs recorded by musicians from the rock or punk or funk or country or rap genres, you know, the genres we deal with the most. Which songs from these artists move you the most? Is it the Pogues fairy tale of New York or any of the others that I mentioned so far? Is it something a bit more esoteric like James Brown, Santa Claus goes straight to the ghetto

or Pretty Paper by Willie Nelson or maybe even that great collab between Dolomite and EZE entitled Merry Mother Fucking X-Mis. You know, like, I was just thinking, we talk about this every year. We talk about great Christmas music. But I want to know what the songs are that just got you, the Christmas songs. Like, I'm telling you, man, that band song,

it's like, it opened a vein. I was trying to, I sit there, my wife and my oldest son, and I was trying not to cry. It was so fucking emotional. It's just incredible. Rick Danko, man. So what are those songs?

Christmas is a super emotional time, and I feel like the emotion is heightened by the music. What are those songs that really, you know, I guess if you want to hit me back and, you know, talk about Irving Berlin or Bing Crosby or whatever, that's fine or Sinatra. But, you know, what are the ones that we may not be familiar with?

You know, like the ones I mentioned, like the Dolomite EZE thing, the James Brown, Santa Claus, go straight to the ghetto. Pretty paper by Willie Nelson. It's kind of the obscure ones by rock and classic rock and country and hip hop artists that really resonate and mean something to you. All right, let's get into it. Hit me up. 617-906-66-6638 voicemail text. Email me, disgracelampod at gmail.com. Hit me on socials at Disgracelandpod.

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This film should be played loud features Zeth and me combining our love of music, disgrace land, and film, Hollywoodland, in a discussion about what else the great music from the films we love. The best soundtracks, the best scores, the best needle drops, performances, etc. We kicked off this series today with what is quite possibly the most incredible movie soundtrack of all time, the Goodfellas soundtrack, all right? This is a video podcast, a first for us here at Double Elvis, and it's also a chat podcast, which is a first for yours truly. Normally, I'm reading from a script in our full episodes, or I'm talking to you guys solo here in the after party. Zeth and I love movies and music, clearly, and we talk about them all the time, both on and off

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The helicopter scene, I went back and I looked. It's the best mixed tape inside of a movie that I've ever come across. And it's, it feels like it's a long tape when you think of the impact of it. but it's actually pretty short. It's Jump in the Fire by Harry Nilsson. Then it goes to Memo from Turner, the Mick Jagger version, however,

incorrectly credited in the soundtrack as a Rolling Stone song. It's actually not. It's a Mick Jagger version. Then it goes into like a couple seconds of the live version of Magic Bus by The Who. And then it goes into Monkey Man. And then what is life by George Harrison? You kind of feel like he's getting away with it.

Like he's getting away with it. And then Manish Boy by Muddy Waters. And then, of course, the writing's on the. the wall for Henry Hill. But hang on. The best part about that whole stretch, for me, at least, my favorite part is in between Monkey Man and What is Life.

There's just the briefest clip of Muddy Waters at the beginning of Manus Boy going everything. Yes. Everything. Yes. Yes. Yes. Exactly.

That's it. Everything. Everything going to be all right this morning. Full shot. And then it cuts right into what is life. And you're like, what the fuck is going on here, right? You're absolutely right. And, you know, in that, okay, so we need to talk about Scorsese's approach here.

Before Goodfellas, Scorsese is famously the guy because of mean streets. He's famously the guy who uses rock and roll to express emotion, to use rock and roll songs, pop songs, to express emotion in film as opposed to using score. Right. Okay, so by the time he gets to Goodfellas, you know, he's already gone through and he's worked up the script with Nicholas Pilegi. And he's got like, he's indicating in the margins, what's. songs he wants and I read an interview with the the music editor for the film where he said that Scorsese knew two years in advance what songs exactly he wanted playing in which frames of the film. He was putting it in the script. He was like put cream, sunshine to your love here. Right. Exactly.

Pilegi's rereading the script and he's just said, it's a sunshine of love. It's just said, add cream. Yeah. Pelleji's like, what the fuck do you mean add cream? He's like, da da da da dunce. You know, it's interesting when I read this thing, about the music editor from Goodfell is making a big deal of the fact that Scorsese knew exactly what songs he wanted in the film two years in advance. It didn't strike me as being strange. I was just like, well, yeah, that's how you fucking do it, dude. Right, right?

But it's not how you do it. I mean, I've actually, I've worked on indie films and stuff. I've music supervised stuff and did music for a film, a Parker Posey film. And the director was a friend, he was basically like, I don't know shit about music. you figure it out. And I feel like that's an approach that a lot of directors have. I think you're right. But remember that Scorsese started, I mean, one of his first major gigs was the Woodstock movie, which he's credited for now as an editor. But I believe at the time, this was in that Mr. Scorsese documentary that was on Apple recently. He was like the second

director of that movie. So like he's creating that movie. He's cutting that movie with music at the forefront of his mind. Right. Exactly. Exactly. And obviously he's surrounded by great live music, Santana, Slicestone, all that stuff. Yeah. But this is after he grows up, and this is the good thing about Goodfellas. It really feels like, I don't know, it was growing up in my small town, it was very much like this where, you know, we all hung out on this main drag, right?

And you would just hear, there'd just be this soundtrack constantly, cars driving by. People still carry boom boxes around. I'm not trying to make it sound like I grew up in the Bronx. I didn't. But music was kind of like it was more in the air than it is now. Now everyone's got ear pods on and their little pods and their cars and whatever. It just, it was different then. And I feel like it was much different and a much more extreme version of what I just explained

in a tiny little sort of, you know, two block stretch of downtown New York where Martin Scorsese grew up in the 1960s. and that sort of like jukebox system that he was living in. Yeah. And that's what that movie feels like all the way throughout the beginning. I mean, the first, you know, the opening is, you know, by the time he blows up the cars, you've already whipped through like your ears are just on fire from all the incredible soundtracking that's going on. Yeah. It's like a radio station, you know, it's just like switching the channels.

It's due up. Exactly. It's got to group. It's, it's, it's all over the place. But it's what he would have heard. Right. And he's so fearless with his music choices. All right, guys, that is this film.

Should be played loud. A new video podcast from Double Elvis. Go to disgraceandpod.com to sign up to become an All-access member today so that you can watch. I will be back after this with your voicemails, texts, and more. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games. stupid prizes.

And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends, Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care.

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You'd rather be disappointed in. Do that. Dennis Leary. I wake up and I'm hitting him in the head with a water bomb. And Bruce Jenner is on the aisle in a karate stance like he's about to attack me. Like making karate noises. And his entire the Kardashian family over there, everybody's going. And the air marshal is trying to grab my arms and screaming.

I immediately know that I've been asleep walking. David O'Yellowo. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Guy Branham. So anyway, Nicole Kidman broke up with Keith Thurban. Being half of a country couple was always a hat she was going to wear, not like a life she was going to lead.

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Join me and step inside the investigation. New episodes drop every Monday on the Exactly Right Network. Listen to Wicked Words on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, we got Christmas music on the brain this month. As always, every December, let's hear from Mr. Taylor from North Carolina. Matt, play the 9-16. Jake, this is Mr. Taylor from North Carolina calling to answer the question of the best Christmas songs. Look, you already said it. Darlene loves Christmas.

Baby, please come home. It is the best Christmas song. of all time. Christmas music aside, it's just an excellent, excellent masterpiece of a song. Bonus points for its use in Goodfellas. So that's my answer. But I will say, as a kid growing up in the 90s, man, Christmas music was bad, really bad. Mariah Carey, I'm pretty sure, is playing on repeat in the waiting room in hell. The 90s featured a bunch of really great artists whose careers had stalled out, all trying to get one last cash grant. by doing Christmas songs and trying to get on.

Now, that's what I call Christmas 26. So I skewed Christmas music for a very long time. But as a father of four, I know now that Christmas music is a requirement. So I took it upon myself to try and go out and find Christmas music that I liked, Christmas music that I felt was of the quality that I required. So, I mean, look, there's a lot of good music out there. I will say I've stretched the definition a little bit. you know, songs that include sleigh bells, I think, are Christmas music, right?

God only knows by the Beach Boys. Ben Fold 5. Those are like, that sounds like a Vince Goraldi Christmas song. Songs that even include references to Christmas. Leavon by Elton John. He was born on a Christmas day. Another Benfold five song, Brick, starts with, you know, 6 a.m. Day After Christmas.

Or even just songs like Jeff Buckley's, Hallelujah. Man, if that isn't Christmas, I don't know what is. So I've curated a playlist for my family. It plays on repeats all December long, and hopefully my kids will have a better view as they grow up of Christmas music, but that's up to them to figure out. That's all I got.

Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah, it's all the discos. Rock and roll it to you, Jake. Santa Claus wants them loving. Thank you. You know, I've never really thought about Christmas music by decade. That's interesting. I can't say for certain whether the 90s were as bad as you say. Just in thinking about it quickly, nothing's coming to mind from the 90s.

It really blows me away. I guess there's a lot of good stuff from the 80s. You might be on to something here. And I love the broadening of the Christmas music definition, just including sleigh bells. Yeah, I can see God Only Knows as a Christmas song and leave on and Hallelujah as well. I kind of like what you're doing here, man. You're kind of opening up this topic of songs that aren't Christmas songs, but are Christmas songs.

What are the diehards of Christmas songs? I love this. That might be a question of the week for next week. I don't know. We shall see. Thanks for the call. I appreciate it. Thanks for the voicemail.

All right, let's check out this one from the 815. Hey, Jake. This is Matt Colin from the 815. Finish Phil Specter episode, and you had asked for recommendations for Christmas. Christmas music, one of my all-time favorite Christmas songs. It's a 15-minute song by Sufjohn Stevens called The Christmas Unicorn. And the first half of the song is actually the Christmas unicorn. But the second half, he covers Lovell Taras Apart by Joy Division.

Please check it out. You will not be disappointed. All right. Merry Christmas. Happy holidays. Rockerola. 815. I've never heard this song.

You've got me very excited to hear it. Yeah, Joy Division. Love will tear us apart as a Christmas song. Yeah, I don't know how, but I'm excited to check it out. I'll report back next week. Thank you. 617-906-66-3638. Appreciate the recommendations, guys.

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As always, brother 978 is referring to our Blink 182 episode, which if you have not heard that, check it out and check out the documentary. The Age of Disclosure that we were talking about last week as well in connection with that blink episode. 617-906663.8. You guys want to get at me about anything. You can also email me disgrace to my pot. gmail.com like Victoria Annabelle who writes in, hello, I came across your profile. And I wanted to ask if your books are currently available for reading or purchase during this

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You guys want to hit us up about anything related to music, true crime, Christmas. I'm digging this new potential question, Christmas songs that aren't Christmas songs. I like this. I like this angle. If you want to get ahead of next week's question of the week, you can hit me up with your answers to that. disgrace-sampod at gmail.com. Listen, earlier, I was talking about Robbie Robertson and leave on helm and some wild criminal accusations being hurled about the band's camp, which is not the same as band camp.

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Appreciate you guys. I talked about Beach Boys today, or we mentioned them anyhow, mentioned David Bowie as well. And we did not mention Dime Bag Darrell, whose death date was this week. Same day, John Lennon passed, same date, I should say, December 8th. But we have a great episode on dime in Pantera and also on Bowie and the Beach Boys. Check those out. If you haven't heard them already, you just want to give them a spin. Go for that. Give them a little rewind. All right, let's recap, shall we? Number one, this week's new episode on Phil Specter is available for you right now. There's also a new mini episode available right now. Number two, new mini episode for all access members on Phil and John Lennon's Mad Influence. Go check that out. Number three, rewind episodes

on John Lennon and the assassination of John Lennon, parts one and two. Those are hitting your feed tomorrow. Number four next week, we start celebrating the Christmas season for real with our Shane McGowan episode. Five, Zest gives you those Hollywoodland crime vibes in the Hollywoodland feed. So make sure you're subscribed. Also, we've got Christmas and New Year's movie specials coming your way in the Hollywood land feed for the rest of the month. Head over there. Check those out.

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on that day. Number one, I'm leaving it up to you, Dale and Grace. Last week, four. Weeks on chart, eight. Peak position, one. Number two, Sugar Shack, Jimmy Gilmer and the Fireballs. Last week, two, weeks on chart, not applicable.

Peak position, one. Number three, Washington Square, the village sombers. Last week, six, peak position, two. Last week, number one, Dominique, the singing done. Last week, eight, peak position, one. Number five, it's all right. The impressions.

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