DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode: Heart Issues and Hurricanes

Episode Date: October 10, 2024

This week in the After Party, Jake hears from you on which artists were taken from us too soon, and continues to dive into the latest scuttlebutt on Sean Combs. As Jake gets ready for Hurricane Milton... and we prepare for next week's episode on the great rock n' roll band The Cramps, we we want to know: Which rock n' roll band is the greatest of all time? Let Jake know at 617-906-6638, disgracelandpod@gmail.com, or on socials @disgracelandpod.For more great Disgraceland episodes, dive into our extensive archive, including such episodes as:Episode 6 - Lisa "Left Eye" LopesEpisode 9 - Bob MarleyEpisode 10 - Tupac Shakur and the Notorious B.I.G.Episode 57 - Nipsey HussleEpisodes 69 & 70 - Tupac ShakurEpisodes 80 & 81 - The Notorious B.I.G.To hear an extended version of the After Party and to hear more from the DISGRACELAND community, become a Disgraceland All Access member at disgracelandpod.com/membership.Visit www.disgracelandpod.com/merch to see the latest Disgraceland merch!Sign up for our newsletter and get the inside dirt on events, merch and other awesomeness - GET THE NEWSLETTERFollow Jake and DISGRACELAND:InstagramYouTubeX (formerly Twitter) Facebook Fan Group To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 This is exactly right. Double Elvis. When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist, they take matters into their own hands. I vowed. I will be his last target. He is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves. We always say that trust your girlfriends. Listen to the girlfriends.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When like young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever. My first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? Rather be disappointed in. Do that.
Starting point is 00:01:04 David O'Yellowo. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Dennis Leary, Gaten Madarazzo from Stranger Things, Tana Monsu, Camilla Morone, Carrie Kenny Silver, and more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Sometimes a suspect is found guilty before a verdict is ever read in court. On the Wicked Words podcast, I talk with the writers who dig deep into the cases that changed history,
Starting point is 00:01:41 including Marsha Clark, who went from prosecuting one of the most famous murder cases to writing crime fiction. It doesn't matter that you didn't take part in the murder. If you were at the scene at all, you're guilty of murder. Every week, the real story is revealed. Join us every Monday for new episodes of Wicked Words. Listen to Wicked Words on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, Discos, need a little more disgrace land in your life?
Starting point is 00:02:10 Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the after party. Welcome to the disgrace land bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the after party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of disgrace land to the other,
Starting point is 00:02:45 the backyard to dig into the dirt. On this bonus episode, we are talking about this week's subject of the disgrace land full episode, Brandon Lee from the excellent movie The Crow with the most absolute. Excellent soundtrack. More from the Sean Combs story and some special announcements from the world of disgrace land. And of course, we are diving into your voicemails, texts, and more. And as always, a whole lot of rosy. All right, discos, let's get into it.
Starting point is 00:03:23 And they say there's a heaven for those who await. Some say it's better, but I say it ain't. I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints. The sinners are much more fun. You know that only the good die young. That, of course, is Billy Joel. from his 1978 hit Only the Good Die Young. Brandon Lee, the subject of this week's disgrace land after party, died young at 28 years old.
Starting point is 00:03:47 By all accounts, Brandon Lee was one of the good ones. His father, Bruce Lee, died young too at the age of 32 years old. Lisa Lopez, Bob Marley, Amy Winehouse, Nipsey Hustle, all previous disgrace land subjects. They all died young. And despite being complicated and sometimes problematic individuals, I believe them all to be. good at heart. Other disgrace land subjects, some real bastards are either still breathing or lived long, full lives. Jerry Lee Lewis, Big Lurch, Varg Vekynist, Ike Turner, to name just a few. They, of course, not good people. They were or are bad, bad men. But Billy Joel was onto something. Though that
Starting point is 00:04:29 statement, only the good die young, it isn't absolute. Tupac Shakur and the notorious BIG. They died. okay, Tupac was 25, Biggie was just 24. I'm not saying either were good. Tupac especially was at times a horrendous human being, and Biggie had his issues too, but still they were young men. Had they lived, you could make the case that they could have probably redeemed themselves. Who knows? 24 and 25, far too young to go, though.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Okay, Tupac and Biggie had a lot in common. They were, of course, friends, then famously, enemies, and now a part of the same unsolved murder mystery conspiracy theory. They also shared a common friend, at one time anyway, and Sean Puff Daddy Diddy Combs. Biggie was Diddy's meal ticket, the start that helped Diddy, then Puffy, forever, Sean Combs to launch his career into the stratosphere. And Tupac was, if we're to believe the recent theories floating around TikTok, Tupac was allegedly Sean Combs' lover. I'm emphasizing allegedly, because as far as I can this is just a rumor. That said, I'm not discounting it. This is a credible source alleging that at the very
Starting point is 00:05:41 least, Sean Combs, up until the right now, is and always has been obsessed with Tupac. It should be noted that there are less credible sources claiming right now that Tupac's family has hired new legal representation to investigate Diddy's involvement in Tupac's death, but again, like I said, less credible sources. I'm not so sure Sean Combs killed Tupac. It's just too neat. It's too tidy of an ending. It's too Hollywood. But a lot of other presumed good people in Sean Combs's orbit have died young-ish. And it's kind of weird and worth mentioning. Okay. Kim Porter, Sean Combs's girlfriend, the mother of three of his children, and former Uptown Records employee and co-worker of Sean Combs, she died, some would say very mysteriously, at the age of 48
Starting point is 00:06:31 from pneumonia back in 2018. Andre Harrell, founder of Uptown Records, the label where Diddy and Kim Porter started out, he died back in 2020, a healthy man from sudden heart problems. Uptown Records artist Heavy D, Heavy D and the Boys, Heavy D, he died back in 2011 from a pulmonary embolism. After Sean Combs and Andre Farrell had a vicious falling out,
Starting point is 00:06:56 Combs, of course, then went on to start, Bad Boy Records, where he signed, among other artists Craig Mack. Craig Mack died in 2018 at the age of just 47, like Andre Harold from heart problems. Bad boy artist Black Robb, he died in 2021 from cardiac arrest. Okay? There's a lot of conjecture around the deaths of all these music industry professionals and artists connected to Sean Combs. Now, lots of people die from heart problems. Lots of people die young. But given the individual that we are talking about here, Sean Combs, Diddy, this amount of people, all whom were financially entangled one way or another with Sean Combs via his record label business, you have to pause to wonder, okay? It's pretty, pretty, I'm channeling my inner Larry David. It's just too damn coincidental. And I'm not saying that there's some grand conspiracy of play here. I'm saying that this deserves a little more research, a little more than I've been able to give it.
Starting point is 00:08:00 I have seen this conspiracy theory pop up numerous times on TikTok. Jaguar Wright is all over it. But I have seen nothing to substantiate it. I've seen nothing that it actually ties a thread of credible sourcing through all of this. It makes me go, hmm, there's something there. There's motive. There's intent. There's will.
Starting point is 00:08:20 All that stuff. I have not seen any of that yet. I've only seen, like I said, conjecture. But still, I'm a grown man with my big boy pants on. Okay. I'm not going to shy from a conspiracy theory just because it's a conspiracy theory. At the same time, I'm not going to promote it as being fact. This, despite there not being any proof that I've seen yet, deserves a little more research.
Starting point is 00:08:43 So I'm going to dive into this for you guys. And I will report back. And I'm not sure how I'm going to do that. Maybe I'll do it in an after party. Maybe there'll be a full episode on this. I'm not sure. But something's coming. I'm going to look into this a little more fully.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Okay. Like I said, lots of conjecture around the deaths of all these music industry professionals and artists connected to Combs, lots of people, like I said, they die from heart problems. They die young. I'm going to get into these deaths in the coming weeks, but I'm also, I'm very compelled by this one here. The allegations surrounding Diddy J. Z. in the death of Kathy White, aka Becky with the Good Hair, who died, okay, another one dying young while pregnant at just the age of 28 suddenly from a brain aneurysm, wasn't heart-related, brain aneurysm. I'm going to look into this as well. This is incredibly salacious and I'm going to report back to you guys on what I can find. As always, I will give you
Starting point is 00:09:33 the straight dirt on the sourcing, okay, who I think is credible, who I think is not credible, and why? Now, I'm talking about these deaths because like it or not, they're part of the Sean Combe story, which is vast. And this story is unfurling at, in real time. And it's coming, it's all coming to light publicly. He's not even near trial yet. Every day, new news breaks. And I suspect that by the time you hear this episode, more news will have broken on Sean Combs. Perhaps rendering this particular subject that I'm discussing with you right now, the deaths around Combs. Perhaps new news breaks before you hear this that renders this subject to be a little less relevant. I say this because I'm recording this bonus episode for you early.
Starting point is 00:10:23 I'm recording on Tuesday. I usually do it on Wednesday. Get it out to you on Thursday so that I can be as close to the episode as possible. and the information while you're hearing it. However, some of you may have heard, there's a massive hurricane coming my way. I'm in Florida, and I need tomorrow, Wednesday,
Starting point is 00:10:39 the day I would normally record this episode to, you know, basically hunker down. And a good chance I'm going to lose power. So you're getting it now. I hope everyone else there who's a little more fully in the line of the hurricane. I hope you guys are getting out of Dodge. I hope you're safe.
Starting point is 00:10:56 But anyways, that's why I think there might be a chance of what I'm saying to you now being a little less relevant by the time you hear it two days later because of the hurricane. And we know the Sean Combs story is a hurricane. Nothing is going to stop it. There's been some news over the last week since we last talked. The big news, I suspect, that we're going to get in the coming days, though, in the coming weeks is the story that I mentioned last week with the quote-unquote more high-profile individual featured in the sex video with Combs. If you recall, attorney Ariel Mitchell Kidd has claimed publicly that the owners of this video of the alleged more high profile participant has been shopping a catch and kill deal. Well, now this news has developed slightly in Ariel Mitchell Kidd, again, the attorney. She's back on News Nation and she's making this news, okay, that the high profile person in the video is trying to catch and kill this themselves, trying to purchase this. but they are bidding for ownership of the video. They are bidding against two major news networks
Starting point is 00:12:01 to gain control of this video to keep it from coming out, okay? We shall see. Even if this is an A-list celebrity on the video, who really cares, okay? It's not against the law to have sex. It's not against a lot of have sex on video, even if you're a very short, very funny comedian
Starting point is 00:12:19 who not only stars in commercials with LeBron James, but who also emcees, Diddy Parties and Tom Brady Roes, even if you're that guy, it's not illegal to have sex. Okay? So if you show up on this video, if your heart gets broken and you show up on this video, perhaps even if you're having sex with Sean Combs in this video, end of the day, who really cares? Now, if there's a minor in the room, if there's a minor in this video with you, well, then you're fucked.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Okay? you got more than a broken heart to worry about. All right. And if you were to then say, I don't know, die young of, say, a sudden heart issue, I'm not so sure Billy Joel will be singing you any songs. All right, you get what I'm saying here? All right, switching gears. We have an episode on the band The Cramps coming next week.
Starting point is 00:13:11 And as you're listening, guys, you'll hear that this is a story about a rock and roll band, a real rock and roll band, real rock and roll, not rock, rock, rock, and roll. You'll hear the difference in the episode. And when you're listening to this episode, please be thinking about what band? What band out there made the greatest rock and roll of all time? Gotta be a band. And I'm not talking about rock music. I get into the difference. I get into the difference in definition between rock and roll and rock in the episode. I don't want to do it here. Okay, but just know, rock and roll, down, dirty, fun, guitar driven, music for teenagers, music that makes you feel like a teenager. Okay, so loosely based on that definition, I guess,
Starting point is 00:13:50 what band in your estimation made the greatest rock and roll music of all time and why I already know my answer it's a pretty basic one but I want to know your answer so hit me back 617 906 666 666 38 voicemail and text at disgracelam pod on the social's disgracelam pod at gmail.com on email and I will answer until you guys here in the next after-party bonus episode but right now I'm going to take a quick break back in the flash with some of your voicemails and text and from last week. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl.
Starting point is 00:14:36 You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends, oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last
Starting point is 00:15:09 target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Kate Winkler Dawson, host of the Wicked Words podcast. Each week I sit down with the true crime writers behind some of the most compelling true crime stories and discuss their years spent investigating and why it still matters. He sees his father coming out of the woods with his hands over his face,
Starting point is 00:15:48 and he knows something happened. His father just grabs him and says she's gone. She's gone. These are the cases that leave survivors, families, and the journalists who cover them changed forever. Working in national television, it'll push you to your limits, and you'll end up doing things you never thought you'd do.
Starting point is 00:16:09 You know, you look back at it and you're like, I can't believe that really happened. Join me and step inside the investigation. New episodes drop every Monday on the Exactly Right Network. Listen to Wicked Words on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Remember when you'd walk into your local video rental place and there were always those two employees behind the counter arguing about movies?
Starting point is 00:16:35 Well, that's us. I'm Millie de Cherico. And I'm Casey O'Brien. And now we're arguing about movies on our podcast, Dear Movies I Love You, from the Exactly Right Network. Can I say something about the criterion closet? Go ahead, dude. They're letting too many people in there. Okay, that's another film, grape I got two.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Sadly, that rental place doesn't exist anymore. It's probably a store that sells running shoes. Or an ice cream shop with an extra pee and an E at the end. So consider us your slacker movie clerks in podcast form. I would like to establish a timeline of the moment you figured out who Channing Tatum was. Every Tuesday, we dig into the movies we can't stop obsessing over. From hidden gems to big screen favorites.
Starting point is 00:17:19 New episodes drop every week on the exactly right network. Listen to Dear Movies I Love You on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games. You get stupid games. prizes. And Rule 2, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends, oh my God, this is the same man.
Starting point is 00:18:00 A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Trust me, babe. On the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Kate Winkler Dawson, host of the Wicked Words podcast. Each week I sit down with the true crime writers behind some of the most compelling true crime stories and discuss their years spent investigating
Starting point is 00:18:49 and why it still matters. He sees his father coming out of the woods with his hands over his face, and he knows something happened. His father just grabs him and says she's gone. She's gone. These are the cases that leave survivors, families, and the journalists who cover them changed forever. Working in national television, it'll push you to your limits,
Starting point is 00:19:14 and you'll end up doing things you never thought you'd do. You know, you look back at it, and you're like, I can't believe that really happened. Join me and step inside the investigation. New episodes drop every Monday on the Exactly Right Network. Listen to Wicked Words on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Remember when you'd walk into your local video rental place and there were always those two employees behind the counter arguing about movies? Well, that's us.
Starting point is 00:19:44 I'm Millie DeCherko. And I'm Casey O'Brien. And now we're arguing about movies on our podcast, Dear Movies I Love You, from the Exactly Right Network. Can I say something about the criterion closet? Go ahead, dude. They're letting too many people in there. Okay, that's another film, grape I got two. Sadly, that rental place doesn't exist anymore.
Starting point is 00:20:03 It's probably a store that sells running shoes. Or an ice cream shop with an extra pee and an E at the end. So consider us your slacker movie clerks in podcast form. I would like to establish a timeline of the moment you figured out who Channing Tatum was. Every Tuesday, we dig into the movies. we can't stop obsessing over, from hidden gems to big screen favorites. New episodes drop every week on the exactly right network. Listen to Dear Movies I Love You on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:20:46 All right, guys, a couple of announcements. The live stream event that we had scheduled for Wednesday night, October 9th, it was, of course, postponed due to the hurricane. I was unable to live stream live in the storm here in Florida. Tickets are being refunded, as it's unclear due to. to travel that I have coming up some other issues that we have going on when we're going to be able to set up another date. I'd rather just get you guys your bread back into your pockets. You can do what you will with it and we'll do something around this story later in the future at a to be determined time and place. All right. I am excited to get you guys this story, the Tom DeLong story of
Starting point is 00:21:21 government disclosure, government conspiracy, euphology, all that. When we do, you will be the first to know. You'll be the first to know of the date, the venue, et cetera. But until then, like I said, You got your bread back. You can do it with it what you want. Apologies to those of you guys who bought tickets. I truly appreciate the support. And if you were looking forward to this event as much as I was, I just want to say there was literally nothing that we could do about this.
Starting point is 00:21:45 It was scheduled on the wrong day, October 9th. Can't control the weather. But just wanted to voice my gratitude to you guys. And yeah, we'll have something special coming up for you guys soon. Okay. Another couple updates. We have tweaked our podcast episode. release schedule very slightly. You may have noticed that our full new episodes, I talked to you
Starting point is 00:22:07 about this. I asked you what you thought. I received zero negative feedback on this for what we're planning on doing. So you may have noticed that our new full episodes, like the Brandon Lee episode that you just got this week, like the cramps episode that you're going to be getting next week. These new full episodes are now being released on Mondays. After party bonus episodes like this one here that you're listening to. They're coming on Thursdays as usual. And rewinds, of course, released on Friday. All right. So Monday, Thursday, Friday. That's the release schedule. Now, I mentioned the cramps episode. I cannot wait for you to hear this cramps episode. It's an instant favorite of mine, okay? It's coming to you Monday. I really hope you dig it. I want to hear your comments. We're so
Starting point is 00:22:50 inspired by everything we're doing here in this dark and spooky October here. Halloween and disgrace land has turned into my favorite time of the year somehow. I was never Halloween guy until I start of this podcast. But listen, we've got a lot of great episodes coming your way. We've got a poltergeist episode coming next week. I'm sorry, the week after the cramps episode. Then we have the story of the Exorcist coming after that. We've got a creepy episode on Harry Houdini coming in the All Access feed this month and and rewind episodes on Black Sabbath, Ozzy Osbourne, Robert Johnson, in one of my all-time phase, of course, the misfits, okay? Final bit of housekeeping. We have our book club meeting virtually on October 29th, where we will be reading and discussing,
Starting point is 00:23:29 while discussing the book we read, which is the Exorcist, one of the best books that I've ever read. This book club is happening one day after our Exorcist episode comes out, so that should make it even extra fun and spooky. The Exorcist Book Club discussion goes down on October 29th, just a couple days before Halloween pumped on this. So if you're looking for something cool to do, this Halloween theme, get in on our book club. All right, okay, I have a confession to make. I lied.
Starting point is 00:23:54 I have one more piece of news for you, okay? We have new dark and spooky October merchandise coming your way next week that we created in collaboration with a great artist named Spencer Alexander. These new disgrace land merch items, guys, we're doing two shirts. They're fucking awesome. One is inspired by Black Sabbath, okay? The other is inspired by the cramps. And we're doing it a bit different with these items. We're only doing a limited release.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Okay. These shirts will be available to purchase as a drop next week. And they're only going to be available for one week and one week only. and then they're going bye-bye, okay? Keep an eye on our Instagram and our X account at disgrace land pod and of course our website
Starting point is 00:24:31 to view the items. I'm going to send them out. They look great. They look fantastic. The designs are awesome. You guys are going to be stoked. And again, that's coming next week and those items are only going to be available
Starting point is 00:24:43 for one week's time. Okay? All right, enough for me. Let's hear from you guys. 617-906-6638 to send me a text or a voicemail just like this caller from the 970. Hey, Jay.
Starting point is 00:24:57 for Lillian of Wilmington, so Massachusetts Girlie, Lou. My answer to your question from the last after-party about who the good dying young is the actor Anton Yeltsin. I don't think enough people think about him or recognize how awesome he was and in my heart continues to be. He also had the same birthday as me, so I had a soft spot for him. but also the way he died was like the most fucking insane and tragic thing. His fucking Jeep rolled down the driveway because like it had like some sort of parking break mechanism issue.
Starting point is 00:25:38 And it rolled down the driveway and pinned him against his mailbox. So he died agonizing and flow and just like one of the worst things I could possibly imagine. You know, there was no fucking reason for that to happen. So I remain devastated. And also, come on, guys. Anton gave us a spring room. Like, please, put the respect on this name's name. He died way too young and way too soon.
Starting point is 00:26:06 And I will probably never get over it. Thanks, Michelle. I am one of those people who, I don't know who the hell you're talking about. I had to look him up. And yes, I completely, the way, the death, my gosh. Damn, that is brutal. That is brutal. I have many thoughts. I need to collect myself, though, and learn more about this and think about it a little bit more. My first thought, I'm just going to be real with you. My first thought was, I should do an episode on this because this cause of death is insane and I would love to write about it. Anyone ever watched Six Feet Under? I loved that show. I loved how they opened every episode, how they had that kind of cold open bit, and it was all just a different cause of death. I found that to be fascinating. That's what your story reminded me of Michelle. All right, let's check in with
Starting point is 00:26:52 Christina here in the 9-17. Hey, this is Christina calling from Brooklyn in regards to a transformer who has left way too early. Absolutely, hands down, Adam Yeo from the Beastie Boys at MCA. It was an incredible person, an incredible performer, and it tremendously impact my childhood in youth. and first person to affect me when they had passed. Absolutely way too soon. Thank you. Great one, Christina.
Starting point is 00:27:29 I don't know why Yauk MCA didn't pop into my head when I posed this question. But kind of the perfect example that you're providing here. And Christina, I'm thinking about doing a Beastie Boys episode. It's one of these things where I'm going to be a complete hypocrite every time someone request an episode and I'm like, yeah, but what's the crime? It's disgrace land. What's, what's the crime at the core of it so I can make it true crimey and make it work on our side of the street? And I don't have an answer to that, my own question when it comes to the Beastie Boys, but I just love the Beastie Boys so much that I want to figure out a way to do this. I want to
Starting point is 00:28:06 figure out a way to write about them. And I know there's got to be something there. There's got to be something, some sort of crazy transgression, if not a crime, that I can use to anchor this historian. So I'm looking into that, Christine and the 917. Thanks for bringing up Yoke. I appreciate it. All right. Matt, let's do one more voicemail here. Let's check in with the 206. Jake, what's going on, brother? Tony from the 206. Just listening to the Brandon Lee episode. Believe it or not, you know, me being from the 206, I actually went to Brandon and Bruce's final resting place a year after. Brandon was tragically killed, and I didn't even put it all together until years later that I had went,
Starting point is 00:28:54 because I went with a day camp group of mine, but it was so surreal to see it. And at that time, Bruce Lee's Headstone had a, it has a picture on it now, but at that time, that part had been stolen because what people would do is they would come into the cemetery, and they would take that part off, and they would sell it on the black market. So now it's been bolted down. Another thing I want to talk to you about real quick was last week's Travis Scott episode. Brother, I was in Vegas when that happened. And I remember when I put the gist of it together because I was going for another concert,
Starting point is 00:29:30 even though that happened in Houston, I remember I texted my friend who was coming in to meet me in Vegas. And I said, hey, we're treading very carefully at this concert tonight that we're going to. So you can bet your last money is when I saw Ghostface, Ray Kwan. and Jizzle on that at that show. I was looking at for all the exits, but thankfully we had a great time, and, you know, I say it's very special and nobody just hurt.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Anyway, keep doing what you do. Much love. Talk to later. Tony, thank you for the call. Thank you for the insight into Bruce's grave. That's a wild story. I had no idea. What was the part that was stolen, though?
Starting point is 00:30:04 You didn't mention that, the part of the grave. Hit me back and let me know. And I'm also, I'm happy to hear that your Vegas show, though it was filled with anxiety, did not go off like AstorWorld. All right. Thanks, Tony. All right, let's do some text. Guys, there are so many texts, like I said, so many texts.
Starting point is 00:30:19 I just, first of all, thank you. Second of all, know that I'm reading them if I'm not responding to all of them here in the after party. And if I'm not responding via text, just know that I read them all, okay? And I'm just stoked on the engagement. So this one comes from the 703. Hey, Jake, this is Mary from the 703. It's a long one, Mary. So I'm going to read part of it.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Mary says, I listen to the Travis Scott episode as well as the bonus episode, although for that one I was more curious about your take on the additional charges for Sean Combs. Anyhow, I wholeheartedly agree with you on your opinion of Travis Scott being completely selfish and greedy. It actually brought back a memory of when I saw Eminem and D.C. back in 2002. The crowd was becoming out of control and people were likely in danger of being trampled. So he told everybody to stop. And if they didn't, he was leaving the stage. Now, I read that part of Mary's text because Eminem, before this is all said and done.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Now listen, you guys who are super disgrace in heads, you know I have a complicated history with Eminem. Anyways, Eminem, we did an Eminem episode and I, you know how I do that bid at the beginning of every episode where I'm like, and they made great music, blah, blah, blah. Well, I said Eminem did not make great music. And I did it in part because I truly felt that way at the time. And also in part because I really wanted to fuck with Eminem's fans who I know are very precious. and there's nothing I like more than fucking with precious fans of musicians because everyone really needs to just lighten up a notch in 2024 or whenever this went live.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Anyhow, I've since grown into an Eminem fan largely because of my kids. I can't believe I went as far as I did when I said that. It's not entirely because of all the shit I got from everybody, but just came to that realization on my own. But more importantly, I think when this Diddy story is said and done that Eminem is going to be part this and not in a bad way. There's a lot of things that have popped off in the last few years where Eminem has been on the right side of the argument.
Starting point is 00:32:19 And don't take this as a blanket endorsement of everything Eminem has said or done in the past. That's not what this is. I'm just like, the guy raises my eyebrows every now and then. That's all I'm saying. I'm like, huh, I agree with this guy. And he said some very interesting things about Diddy. And guys, you got to know, I want to get into him here, but I could make every single
Starting point is 00:32:38 after-party episode about Sean Combs. trying real hard not to do that. But this is one of those wormholes that I kind of want to dig through a little bit and get more information for you guys. So anyways, that, you know, the 703 brought up, Mary brought up the Travis Scott thing with Eminem, and I thought that was a good way for me to connect the two. Let's do another text here. This one from the 304, also on the subject of Diddy 304 writes, I want a disgrace land T-shirt that says, that's a lot of fucking baby oil. That's not a bad idea. It's gross. That's not a bad idea. 856 writes him, listening to your afterparty and your response to Stephen,
Starting point is 00:33:15 reminded me of a young Ian Mackay. Hey, Stephen, well, at least I'm trying. What the fuck have you done? That's Mark from the 856. He's referencing a minor threat lyric from the song In My Eyes. And I feel like I lost some punk rock credibility because when I said that last week's episode to Stephen, I should have known I was paraphrasing Ian McKay from minor threat and in my eyes.
Starting point is 00:33:39 I was literally roommates with the guys in the band in my eyes back in the day. I should have got that one. Fuck. I'm sorry, Mark. Good catch, though. 808 writes in, The Crow has been my favorite movie since I've seen it in theaters while, a senior in high school.
Starting point is 00:33:54 For the question of the week, of course, I'd say Brandon Lee. You can see the range in the few actual scenes he is in, and the Crow, and Heath Ledger comes to mind. You're right, and they're both similar to me. They both occupy the same sort of space in my head. Good text, 808. I appreciate it. all right let's do one more here one more in the text from the nine one six it comes from brook who
Starting point is 00:34:13 saying hey jake just wanted to let you know i've been listening to keith jarritt the rich and the poor nonstop on repeat since you recommended it's so good brook from the nine one six brook you got it brook i got another one for you hang tight for one second let me check this out this is this other keith jarritt album that i've been on to in the last couple days i think i mentioned that the cone concert couple episodes ago but there's also this record called belong by Keith Jarrett. That is also incredible. That one, the belonging one is more like what you're hearing on that song, The Rich and the Poor. Cone concert is solo piano, I believe the entire thing. And belonging is him with the little, I think it's a quartet like he has in The Rich and the Poor.
Starting point is 00:34:56 617-906-6638. Hit me up on voicemail. Hit me up on text at Disgracelamp Pod on the DMs. Our buddy Chris on it writes in via Facebook regarding the crow sound. which we discuss, of course, in this week's full episode on Brandon Lee, maybe the best movie soundtrack I've heard. That's a bold statement, Chris. Appreciate it, though. What else we got here? Teresa Hamley writes in, oh, Jesus Christ, I'm about to listen to this.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Holy shit, eh? Teresa, you're talking about one of our episodes? And she writes in, I love this version of After Midnight. You rock, Jake, lull. I can't sleep without your podcast. You got it, Teresa. We're going to keep pumping them out, so you keep getting those eight hours. Eight hours a night, Teresa. Do you do the eight hours or you do about six or seven? Where are you at?
Starting point is 00:35:44 The older I get, the more sleep I need. I get to say, I don't know what it's like for you guys, but I just, it's so important. It's so important for the brain power. The physical stuff I can get through. It's not a drag on me physically so much as it is just on making the brain work in the morning in the way that I needed to work. Okay, let's see. Disgracelandpod at gmail. That's how you email me at Disgracelampod. That's how you send me some DMs. I'll do emails in a second. We do a couple more DMs. here. This one comes from listener Joshua Matthew Blevins says, hey, listening to Brandon Lee episode, and just a warning blanks are dangerous at close range. I know more than one actor in the past thinking blanks have killed themselves playing around the guns
Starting point is 00:36:22 that fire blanks. The firearm safety rule should always apply when handling any type of firearms. Recently, Airsoft has been making guns that have a fake muzzle flash and smoke. And this is probably going to make movies with guns a lot safer. You know, one thing that Joshua was reminding me of here,
Starting point is 00:36:38 that we didn't talk about is the film Rust and the Alec Baldwin thing. And perhaps there's an episode there. I went to see David Spade the other night do a live set and he was talking about how they're finishing the film Rust. And he had some really funny things to say about it. But it reminded me, this Alec Baldwin story is just completely just dropped out of my head. And I think it's an interesting one. And I think perhaps it could make for a good episode.
Starting point is 00:37:02 And, you know, it's obviously connected to this Brandon Lee topic that we're talking about. Real quick, shout out to Justin G. over on Instagram, my buddy who sends me a whole bunch of great content. He's going through a rough time right now with his job. Justin, I hope it turns around for you. If it doesn't, you know, just listen to some Johnny Paycheck. I'm going to take a quick break. I'll be back in a flash with some emails and reviews.
Starting point is 00:37:38 Okay, DisgracelandPod at gmail.com. You guys want to hit me up. Grayson Schmidt writes in Garage, lull, man. And sends in a video with the correct way to pronounce that word that I can never pronounce correctly. Grayson, thanks for your email. I appreciate that you took the time to send that in. I really do. I can't tell if you're making fun of me because I have a, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:38:04 I don't want to call it a speech impediment, but I've clearly got a problem with this word. I've been open about it. You know, I try to face my problems head on, Grayson. You know, I try to really just kind of figure out what's going on, you know, diagnose the issue and then try to deal with it. If you're making fun of me, though. I don't know what that says about you.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Never mind me. Anyhow, disgrace my pod at gmail.com. You guys want to hit me up. You want to support the show. You're more than welcome to you. You know how to do it. You can leave a review for the show. Okay, you can do that on Apple Podcasts.
Starting point is 00:38:32 You can do that on Spotify. If you leave a review and I read it here on the pod, you get some free merch, a t-shirt, you know, whatever we've got lying around. Okay. A couple of you emailed in. We've been in contact. Going to get back at you shortly. Going to get some sizes.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Going to get you some merch in the mail. Guys, Apple Podcasts leave a review. helps with the discovery of the show. I really appreciate it. Same goes for Spotify. Or you can just comment on any of the shows, any of the episodes, excuse me, that we have in the disgrace land feed on Spotify.
Starting point is 00:39:01 That helps as well. Speaking of Spotify, Mia or Maya, I'm not sure how to pronounce it. The username here is weird. It's Maya, parentheses, MGK's version, writes, this is crazy. I love that these episodes are about people I've actually heard of,
Starting point is 00:39:17 well, of course they are, Mia, parentheses, MGK's version. Thanks for shouting us out on Spotify. Get in touch. And you, my friend, can get some merch. I will send it your way. Diane M. Montahue writes in, hey, thank you so much for this episode. I've watched that movie 100 times. Diane's talking about The Crow and cried each time. Your form of storytelling is exactly what this story needed. As a matter of fact, it's perfect for all the stories you tell your podcast. It's one of my favorites. Got to go. Got to go watch The Crow again right now. See ya. Diane, thank you. Get in touch. Hit me up to Scraiclampot at gmail.com. work on getting some merch out to you over on Apple podcast, Cinderella Yelly.
Starting point is 00:39:56 She writes in, yes, exclamation.5 stars, a lifelong lover of musical history. Thank you for this podcast. It's brilliant, well written, well told. A treat for the ears. It keeps you coming back for more incredible stories about incredible artists that you normally wouldn't know about. Thank you, Jake. Keep him coming.
Starting point is 00:40:11 You got it, Cinderella Yelly. Great username. Get in touch with us, Cinderella Yelly, and we will get you some merch. All right. Discred Sampot at gmail.com. guys leave a review we really really really appreciate it now for this episode i tried to steer clear oh i got into the ditty stuff a little bit but i tried to not turn the b block into an entire piece of ditty content i'm not sure i succeeded um like i said this ditty stuff is hard to put down
Starting point is 00:40:36 it's hard to ignore there's a lot here to discuss every single one of these bonus episodes i could spend the whole thing talking about ditty but i'm not going to do that i am not going to do that i am however in the all access portion of this podcast, I am going to talk a little bit more about Diddy. All right, that's going to happen just after this. You guys, you're like, what's the all access? Well, if you don't know, you should know. You should know by now.
Starting point is 00:40:59 But maybe you're new and you don't know. If you want to be an all access member of Disgraceland, all you get to do is go to disgracelandpod.com slash membership. And once you're a member, you get all of our episodes ad free and you also get access to the bonus section of the after-party episode here.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Okay? that's coming up very shortly. It's gracebandpod.com slash membership. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends.
Starting point is 00:41:48 I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends, oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands.
Starting point is 00:42:07 I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Remember when you'd walk into your local video rental place and there were always those two employees behind the counter arguing about movies? Well, that's us. I'm Millie to Cherico. And I'm Casey O'Brien. And now we're arguing about movies on our podcast, Dear Movies I Love You, from the Exactly Right Network. Can I say something about the Criterion closet? Go ahead, dude.
Starting point is 00:42:48 They're letting too many people in there. Okay, that's another film grape I got two. Sadly, that rental place doesn't exist anymore. It's probably a store that sells running shoes. Or an ice cream shop with an extra pee and an E at the end. So consider us your slacker movie clerks in podcast form. I would like to establish a timeline of the moment you figured out who Channing Tatum was. Every Tuesday, we dig into the movies we can't stop obsessing over it, from hidden gems to big screen favorites.
Starting point is 00:43:19 New episodes drop every week on the exactly right network. Listen to Dear Movies I Love You on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Kate Winkler Dawson, host of The Wicked Words Podcasts. podcast. Each week I sit down with the true crime writers behind some of the most compelling true crime stories and discuss their years spent investigating and why it still matters. He sees his father coming out of the woods with his hands over his face, and he knows something happened. His father just grabs him and says she's gone. She's gone. These are the cases that leave survivors, families, and the journalists who cover them changed
Starting point is 00:44:02 forever. Working in national television, it'll push you to your limits and you'll end up doing things you never thought you do. You know, you look back at it and you're like, I can't believe that really happened. Join me and step inside the investigation. New episodes drop every Monday on the exactly right network. Listen to Wicked Words on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, guys, we are back. I want to get into the archive here a little bit before I take off.
Starting point is 00:44:42 We talked about Nipsey Hustle. Okay, that episode is episode number 57, release date May 12th, 2020. Lisa Lefteye Lopez was mentioned. That episode, OG episode from season one, episode six, release day April 17th, 2018, if you can believe that. Bob Marley was also part of season one. Bob Marley was also mentioned in this episode. Bob Marley was episode nine, okay? Came out a couple weeks after Lisa Lefti Lopez.
Starting point is 00:45:08 that's release date May 29th, 2018. Okay, now back in season one, we did a single episode on Tupac and Biggie. And my take on that episode, it's one of my least favorite episodes, but I invite you to listen to it. Because the take, my point of view on that episode, I think is original.
Starting point is 00:45:30 I just think the execution of that episode, it's just never, I could, you know, fuck, you know, when you make something, I can't fucking get it right. That's what it was with that episode. Episode 10, release date, June 12th, 2018. And my point was that the media did it, that the media really just stoked the whole East Coast West Coast rivalry to such a fever pitch that it resulted in murder. And I'm not so sure I believe that anymore. Okay, I was actually thinking the other day in light of this whole ditty thing and in light of the fact that there's this rumor that Tupac's family have retained
Starting point is 00:46:04 new legal representation to look into Sean Combs related to the murder of Tupac, I started to think about what, what do I actually think about Tupac's murder? What do I actually think about Biggie's murder? And after doing that episode that I just mentioned, after writing and releasing another two-part episode on Tupac Shakur, episode 69, released on January 26, 2021, and episode 70 released on February 2, 2021. After those two episodes, I still don't know. And then we did two episodes on Biggie Smalls. And those episodes were from that same season, that same year. I believe that's season eight.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Those are released on, those are episodes 80 and 81, released May 11th and May 25th, respectively, a two-part Biggie Smalls episode. I have a bit of a theory, but I'm not so sure I believe it anymore. And the person who I have sort of theorized, hunched, who may have been involved, I don't actually know that I believe that anymore. I really don't. And I'd love to talk to that person. And that person is not that hard to get to.
Starting point is 00:47:15 So I'm thinking I might try to do that in relation to this Diddy story as well. I am going to go back. And I'm going to listen to all those Tupac and Biggie episodes that I just mentioned because I really got to get my thinking right on this. I think the truth, I think we're all just, we're way off. were way off. I could be wrong, but that's my current thinking. Anyways, all those episodes are there for you to check out. We mentioned a ton in this episode here. The archive, easy to get to. Obviously, you know, you're on Apple podcast, you're on Spotify.
Starting point is 00:47:48 The archives right there. Keep scrolling back. A real easy way to get to these episodes, though, is our website. We have a listen page where we literally have every single episode that we've ever released with links where you can listen right there. So go check that out. if you want to get into the Disgraceland Archive. All right. All right. Just want to say thank you for all the calls, all the voicemails, the reviews, the DMs, all the engagement, the listening. Even if you just out there listening silently, you never talk to me.
Starting point is 00:48:14 And that's the majority of you, frankly. Thank you. I appreciate it. I really do. I got to get out of here, though, so let's recap. Number one, right now in your feed, our episode on Brandon Lee. Number two, coming tomorrow, a special rewind episode from our archive. And we're talking about the cramps next week and the question of the week as it pertain.
Starting point is 00:48:32 that cramps episode is going to be which rock and roll band is the greatest of all time and why okay number three merch winners get in touch you know who you are number four book club coming on october 29th start reading the exorcist and get in here with us all right number five remember no one cares about great storytelling more than you do and well that's a disgrace all right in honor of this week's episode subject brandon lee me reading to you the billboard charts from the day brandon died on March 31st, 1993. Number one, informer, snow. Last week, one, peak position, one.
Starting point is 00:49:10 Weeks on chart, 11. Number two, nothing but a G-thang, Dr. Dre. Last week, three, peak position, two, weeks on chart, eight. Number three, freak me, silk. Last week, six, peak position, three, weeks on chart, five. Number four, a whole new world, Aladdin's theme, last week, every minute, peak position, one, weeks on church. Talking and start mixing.
Starting point is 00:49:59 When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist, they take matters into their own hands. I vowed, I will be his last target. He is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves. We always say that trust your girlfriends. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe.
Starting point is 00:50:23 On the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When like young people, come after me and they want to be an actor or whatever. And my first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? Rather be disappointed in.
Starting point is 00:50:49 Do that. David O'Yelloo. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Dennis Leary, Gait and Moderato from Stranger Things. Tena Monsu. Camilla Morone, Carrie Kenny Silver. And more.
Starting point is 00:51:10 to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Movies can make you feel, make you dream. Sometimes they even make you appreciate architecture. Is there anybody who's been hotter in a doorway than Elizabeth Taylor? That's the kind of analysis you'll find every week on Dear Movies I Love You, the new podcast from the Exactly Right Network. Every Tuesday, we break down the films we're crushing on, from blockbusters to deep cuts. Listen to Dear Movies I Love You on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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