DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode: Horrifying Books, Disgraceful Diddy Developments, and the Power of Imagination

Episode Date: October 31, 2024

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Hey, discos, need a little more disgrace land in your life? Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the after party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, a little thing we like to call the after party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. On this bonus episode, we are talking about this week's subject of the disgrace land full episode, The Exorcist, the scariest books that you've ever read, and our regular update on Sean Diddy Combs.

And of course, we are diving into your voicemails, texts, and more. And as always, a whole lot of rosy. All right, discos, let's get into it. I don't know if you've been there before, but I have. It's late. You're in bed. Lights are off. The only light is the book light,

and the book that you're reading is dark. But you can hang for 90% of it anyway. Inevitably, there's going to be that part of the book, that 10% that gets you, that sneaks up on you, that causes you to cut from reality. to think that maybe, just maybe, you did hear something. So you have to get up and put on your robe and head downstairs and go check. Maybe you're good with your fists, so you're not that insecure, and maybe you've got a gun.

Or maybe, like me, you're in your robe with the Louisville slugger you keep near your bed. And now it's in your hand. You've got two tactics. You can be loud and hope to scare them away as you come down the stairs like a bull in a china shop and hope that whoever or whatever you heard hears you and high tails it out of there before you get downstairs. Or you can go soft and slow, quiet, and hope to sneak up on the intruder or the intrusion. But what if you succeed?

What then? What if you do sneak up on them? Are you going to fight someone off in your robe with your baseball bat at 1130 on a school night while your kids and your spouse sleep quietly upstairs? This is ludicrous and you know it, but you keep moving forward because you're freaked out. Because the book you're reading freaked you out. Because you got so into it, you disassociated from reality. You were sucked in and then the house breathed and something cracked. and you snapped out of it, and your fear surged out into the yopen.

You get downstairs, and you turn all the lights on. You went for the bull in the China shop approach, and now, thankfully, there's no one here. There's no intruder, and there's no supernatural phenomenon either that you know of. But how can you tell, really? What there is, though, is bread and salami and cheese and mustard and lettuce, and those good chips your wife buys, and cold milk so you can eat away your fear in the dark at the kitchen table and then head back

upstairs and yes back into the pages of your book because it's that good. In Cold Blood by Truman Capote, Salem's Lot by Stephen King, Chaos by Tom and Neal, and yes, most definitely The Exorcist by William Peter Blatty. All of these books that I've read, they've scared me so bad that this, what I just explained, has. happened where I've gotten up from wherever I was, usually in my bed like I described, and walked downstairs to try to figure out what the hell was going on. And for good reason, two of the authors that I've mentioned here are the books that I've found to be most scary. Two of these authors are on the list of the top 20 scariest movies of all time. And those authors would, of course,

be Exorcist author, William Peter Blattie, and Stephen King. I'm going to give you the list. I haven't read a lot of them, but still, I find this list interesting. This is from goodreads.com. All right, I'm going to give you this list in reverse order, and I'm going to give you my thoughts as I run through these on each of these books, if I've read them, if I haven't let us breeze through, unless I have a thought on something I haven't read, but I don't know, who knows? Okay, number 20, American Psycho by Brett Easton Ellis. This book is incredible, and even though it's funny, it's a funny book, unintentionally funny, I believe. But no, no, that sounds like I'm degrading the writing. I'm not.

There's a great sense of humor to Brett Easton Ellis's writing, and it's definitely present in American Psycho. It's a main part of it. It's absurd, so to speak. But it's also, the book is also very, very scary. I found it to be anyways. So, okay, 19. The Other, I don't know what this book is. It's by Thomas Tyron.

I can tell you, though, the cover is incredible. I've never read it, but I'm intrigued. Okay. 18, The Stranger Beside Me, this is a book about Ted Bundy. I haven't read this either, but if it's on this list, and it's about Ted Bundy and it's in the top 20, then it sounds to me like this is the book on Ted Bundy. And I could get into this.

I haven't read many serial killer, true crime, nonfiction. But Ted Bundy has always fascinated me for obvious reasons. So this looks like something that I could get into. If any of you have read this one, The Stranger Beside Me, Ted Bundy, the shocking inside story. Let me know because I'm intrigued. Okay, 17, Swang's On, 16, House of Leaves, never read either. number 15, 1984 by George Orwell. I read this in junior high, I think, or early in high school.

And I don't remember it being scary. I do need to reread it because I feel like we're living it right now in the world. And I would like to reread it as an adult with the context of 2024. But I don't remember it actually being scary. If you guys do, let me know. Get in touch. Let's talk about 1984. I'm here for it. 14, and I'm psyched this is on the list. Legion by William Peter Blatty, the author of The Exorcist, which I think is a continuation of The Exorcist. Hold on. I'm going to check that out.

Okay. Actually, Legion is, it's kind of, it's not really a sequel to the Exorcist, but it is, it does follow a mystery with a detective from the Exorcist, which is a great character, and it involves a Zodiac Killer. This looks incredible. and I love William Peter Blattie's writing, as you know, so I'm probably going to read this. Probably going to read this next, actually.

13, The Turn of the Screw by Henry James, read it in high school. Don't remember any of it. Never mind. Don't remember it being scary. Heart-shaped box by Joe Hill. Haven't read it, I believe that's Stephen King's son. Okay, the Pit and the Pendulum by Edgar Allan Poe. Dracula by Bram Stoker.

Ghost Story by Peter Straub. Those are 1110.9. Number eight is Lord of the Flies by William. William Goating, read that freshman year. That I can say was actually scary. Sleeper. Sleeper is scary. That book kind of scared the hell out of me. I don't think it was intentional. Number seven, the haunting of Hillhouse by Shirley Jackson. There's a lot of horror that I don't read. Okay, here we go. Number six, Carrie by Stephen King. Okay. I said on last week's pod that the movie was not, I did not think the movie was scary. The book, I can't actually remember if I read it. I don't think I read it. Five, Pet Cemetery by Stephen King. Horrifying. Horrifying book. Truly, truly scary.

Number four, the Exorcist. Number four, I like how it's top five. Is it scarier than Pet Cemetery? Yes. Should it be number one? We're going to talk about that in a minute. Number three, Salem's Lot. Also, terrifying, terrifying, terrifying book.

First Stephen King book I read, and maybe that's why it's the scariest to me because it was the first that I read and I didn't understand horror at that age at that point. I think Pet Cemetery was the second book I read, Stephen King book that I read, but Salem's Lot scared the hell out of me. Anything that normalizes, I said this in the book club last night, anything that normalizes vampires scares the hell out of me.

Part of me thinks that vampires are real, I think, and I haven't really admitted that to myself until right now. Just this notion that these people in everyday life could in fact be 450 years old. I find that to be incredibly horrifying. Number two, the shining, definitely scary. Very, very, very scary. Scarier than Salem's lot, though. Nope.

Scarier than The Exorcist? Uh-uh. Scarier than Pet Cemetery, even? I don't think so. So I don't know that I would put the Shining number two. The movie's definitely terrifying. And number one, and I'm ashamed to say, I have not read this book, Stephen King's, It. Okay?

I need to read It. And I need to read it soon. There's no excuse. I've been talking about this book for about 10 years now. Definitely the six years I've been doing this podcast with you guys and I still haven't read it. So again, number one, it, number two, the shining. Number three, Salem's Lot, all three spots occupied by Stephen King. Number four of the Exorcist and number five also Stephen King, Pet Cemetery. So four are the top five scariest books of all time according to good reads are Stephen King books. and the other one is the book that we discussed in the book club last night and the book that we recorded a podcast on the film adaptation of The Exorcist.

Okay. So I think we're in the right ballpark here, guys. And we talked a lot last night about a bunch of these books in the book club. That was awesome. Thank you. If you guys weren't there, you missed out. Make sure you get in the next one. It's a lot of fun.

And I said this last night. I really love seeing your faces. It makes us the connectivity of this whole thing, the engagement. It puts it over the top for me. it's just great to spend some face time together. So for everybody was there, thank you so much. Great conversation. We spent about 90 minutes. You know, the first half hour, we talked about the Exorcist. And then really for the next hour, we talked about all kinds of shit. And it was awesome. And we figured out that we're going to try to do another book club between now and Christmas.

If we deem that we have enough time in our schedule, I don't want to impose upon everybody's busy time of the year. We're looking for a book, though. Here's the point. We're looking for a book that is in our wheelhouse, okay? So dark, true crimey, entertainment, music world, whatever, but it is set around in and around Christmas. Doesn't have to be a Christmas book, obviously, but we want something with some sort of Christmas theme. And I don't know what that book is. We talked last night. The only thing I could think about was the Godfather, because the Godfather has a heavy Christmas element to it. You know, I mean, it's not a Christmas book by any stretch, but I do want some Christmas vibes in whatever book we read.

I love the Godfather. I don't want to push it upon anybody. I want to make sure you guys are excited about what we're reading as well. So if you have any other examples of a good Christmas set novel, I should say, or something, Christmas adjacent is probably the better way to put it. Let me know. We'll get into that. And that'll be our next book club book.

Okay, we're going to figure that out. We'll figure it out on the Patreon chat. We'll figure it out on Instagram, on X, on Facebook, wherever we're having this conversation. All right, back to scary books. We're going to get to your answers for this. this week's question of the week on the scariest book that you've read. But before we do that, little ditty update as promised. The news this week, and there's, of course, Tony Busby laying out these lawsuits, there's a new allegation, a new lawsuit alleging that Sean Combs raped a 10-year-old.

And I do not know as of this day whether or not Sean Combs and his attorneys have denied these allegations. I'm sure they will. That's important to note. I'm just going to assume they have. So I'm saying that. And I have not gone through the actual lawsuit. So I cannot speak to its veracity. So it's just there. We're going to get one of these every single week. Okay. And I'm not going to detail every single one, at least not in this form. The other news concerning Sean Combs this week that is more interesting to me, and check this out. Okay, you guys know we've talked about who Jaguar Wright is. She's on TikTok. She's saying all kinds of shit. She goes on to Pierce Morgan, as we discussed, and she starts laying out her conspiracy theories relative to Jay-Z and

Beyonce as they relate to Diddy. Basically, she's alluding to the fact that Jay-Z is culpable in the Sean Combs mess. And she's been saying this all over TikTok, which is one thing. But to go on television, to go on Pierce-Morgan's show, and to make these allegations is another thing entirely. So what happens is this is what prompts Jay-Z and Beyonce to respond. They have a their lawyer reach out to peers Morgan peers Morgan has to come on and apologize for hosting Jaguar right and he has to basically pour water all over Jaguar rights allegations that she made because they're unsubstantiated it's her word against I guess Jay Z and Beyonce's jZ and Beyonce have not spoken directly to any of any of these allegations or conspiracies that connect them to Diddy so we knew

that we talked about that a couple weeks ago so why am I bringing it up again well the reason is because there's a security guard. Now, hip hop security guards on TikTok, it's a whole cottage industry, okay? They've got secrets. They're out there. They're putting themselves on camera. They're doing the podcast circuit,

and they're talking about all kinds of crazy behavior that happens in hip hop. This is not anything new. Since these ditty allegations, this little security guard interview cottage industry has really, really caught some fire on TikTok. And there's a lot of security guards who are out there talking and they're sharing what they've seen.

They're taking you into the dark corners of the entertainment industry. Now, whether or not you believe them, that's up to you. They're not coming with any receipts. It's all hearsay. So, homie CC, who I think I'm saying that correctly, is the security guard. He goes on to talk about Jaguar Wright on one of these interviews that's put on TikTok. And he says that she needs to be quiet, saying that this isn't safe, saying that, quote, this is when people wind up dead unquote.

Now, I'm telling you this because we learned, end of last week, I believe, that another security guard, this one, security guard for Jay-Z, for Beyonce, and at one point for Diddy, security guard named Uncle Ron. Uncle Ron, like I said, it's recently been learned, has passed away.

And to this date, his cause of death, as far as I can tell, is unknown. Now, why does this matter? Well, Uncle Ron was part of this sort of TikTok security guard thing. And Uncle Ron had about 200,000, 150,000 followers, 200,000, something like that. Not huge, but big enough. And Uncle Ron was talking all kinds of shit about Jay-Z and Diddy. And like I said, we just learned Uncle Ron has died.

And we don't know how. Okay? It seems strange. Why don't we know how? all right and of course nobody jz bionce diddy none of them have spoken on this death and why would they but i'm just putting that out there now i'm not saying that uncle ron's death was caused in any way by jz by biontie by ditty but i'm not saying that other people aren't saying that because they are and still to this day when you look at the entertainment industry the music industry the film industry

you're still not hearing a lot in the way of denial when it comes to these megastars who have associated with Diddy, who have been at these parties, and who are being associated with these allegations, at least in the conjecture that's going on on social media. And I think that's strange. And here's why. Because if it were me, let's say it were me. And I were at one of these freakoffs. And let's just say that I partook.

in a freak off, okay? But in a, I'm just having sex kind of way. And I did nothing wrong. And I saw nothing wrong. And I saw no underage, illicit behavior, nothing with minors, nothing with illegal drugs, nothing with abuse. If I saw none of those things and my name were being bandied about next to all these allegations, I would find myself in front of a microphone I'm telling the world that I had nothing to do with this deplorable behavior that is being accused of Sean Combs and the cohort of celebrities who had regularly attended his parties. I find it strange that we have not heard that. Okay.

What it all means, I think you can tell what I think. We shall see. Okay. This is the little diddy update. I'm trying not to cannibalize the whole bonus episode here for disgrace land. What I think I'm going to do is I'm going to do is I'm going to be. going to move coming in January, right? I think what I'm going to start doing is I'm going to be releasing this weekly Diddy Dossier episode that's going to happen probably over the weekend and it's

going to organize all the news on Sean Combs up to that point. All right. And we're going to talk about all these things in an organized way. We're going to give it the space that it deserves once a week or maybe twice a month. I'm not exactly sure. The amount of news that is out there will dictate the volume for our conversation. I am also, as of right now, researching and writing a full disgrace and episode on Sean Combs that will come out in the beginning of January. And this is going to take us from where we left off in the first Sean Combs episode that we released last year, right as the Cassie News was breaking. It's going to take us from the point when Cassie Ventura makes her allegations to when Sean Combs winds up in jail. And I'm going to give you

everything that is real. I'm going to give you everything that is fact-based. I'm going to give you everything that is fact-based in a dramatic edge-of-your-seat storytelling way. That is going to be the episode on Sean Combs. It will be releasing in about six weeks. As I build that, as I research that out, I will also be keeping an eye on the Sean Combs news that is breaking daily as I have been, and I will be organizing this for you in some sort of weekly ditty dossier package bonus. episode type of thing as we go. And then like I said, I'll release that full episode in January, and there will likely be other Sean Combs full episodes throughout next year as we speed toward the trial, which is happening in May. That's how at this moment, 1030 on October 30th,

20, 24, I am seeing how I'm going to cover the Sean Combs story for you guys. All right. Enough on Ditty for right now. I'm going to be back in a flash with your answers to last week's question of the week, but real quick, we have this episode coming out next week on November 5th on the 1986 New York Mets. Now listen, sometimes you try things, you take a swing, pun intended, and things don't work out the way you want them to, but it's a big swing and you take that swing just because, you know what, fuck it, man. Sometimes you got to just do it, right? I'm a Mets fan. I'm a Red Sox fan, but I'm a Red Sox fan, I'm a Mets fan. I've talked to you guys about this before. They're my National League team. They have been since before the 1986 Mets met the Red Sox in the 1986 World Series. I rooted for the Red Sox and I was

heartbroken in that World Series. Okay, but the Mets are like my second team and they always have been. In part, because they're not the Yankees and they hate the Yankees and Mets fans hate the Yankees fans hate the Mets. I was really, really, really hoping for a Mets appearance in the World Series. would have been for the Mets versus the Yankees, because that's thematically part of what this episode is. It's also about all the drugs and all the drinking and all the strippers and all the sex behind the dugout and all the craziness that went on in 1986 with Doc Gooden and Daryl Strawberry and Keith Hernandez, just a phenomenal team. But it's also a story about the 1986 Mets and where they come from, which is Queens, New York, which is different than Manhattan.

obviously. Okay? So when you're listening to this episode next week and you hear the themes that are coming out in this episode, I want you guys to be thinking about this question. What is the best sports town, not just in America, but in the world and why? Okay. Are you in Philly? Is it Philadelphia? Is it L.A.? The World Series will likely be decided by the time you hear this episode. So is it L.A. or is it New York? Is it Boston? Is it Manchester? Man City. Liverpool. What is it? What is Is it? Sao Paulo. Is that even a sports town? I don't know. Let me know 617-906-66-66-6-6-6-3-8. When you're listening to this Mets episode, I want you guys to be thinking about what the best sports town in the world is. And I want you to let me know why. 617-906-66-66-38. And let me know, I'm going

to take a quick break. I'll be back in a flash with answers from you guys on last week's question of the week. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And Rule 2, never mess with her friends either. We always say that, trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends... Oh my God, this is the same man.

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and more for conversations that will make you laugh, cry, and add way too many books to your TVR pile. Listen to bookmarked by Reese's Book Club on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Brought to you by Cotton, the Fabric of Our Lives. All right, we are back. Last week's question of the week was,

what is the scariest book that you've ever read? That's what we were talking about in the B block here just a minute ago. Obviously, we're talking about it because of the Exorcist, which was the subject, the film anyways, was the subject of this week's episode of Disgraceland, and the book was the subject of our book club meeting last week. So, what say you, 716? Hey, Jake, it's in from the 716. I still remember Pet Cemetery as being the scariest book I've read. Nothing comes close to the passage.

of when he thinks he's dreaming and he wakes up and there's dirt all over his feet because he wasn't dreaming. He actually went out into the cemetery. But I know it's a long time ago and I was in high school, but I remember clearly needing to leave the lights on all night after I read Stephen King's Pet Cemetery. It was terrifying. So anyway, just, you know, thought I would call it, you know. Okay, thanks. Go Bill. Yes, Pet Cemetery.

And I remember that dream scene. I really, I really truly did. I didn't until you mentioned it. And then I was like, damn, that's right. And I remember being scared. Crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy scene in just an incredible book. I can't tell though if, you know, with Pet Cemetery, I think I'm kind of burned by the movie, which I actually think is held up better than what, than it was received.

If that makes sense, Pet Cemetery as a, as a, pet cemetery as a movie is not awful. But maybe that's just because of my affection for the book. But kind of the goofiness, that's the wrong word. But the movie is missing the intensity that the book has. And maybe I think in my mind that when I think of Pet Cemetery, the book, I don't think of it as being as scary as it actually was when I read it, if that makes any sense. Real quick on dreams, they tell you not to write dreams as a writer.

They tell you that it's lazy, that it's uninteresting. and I disagree. And I think your point here proves my point that that's not, this is not true. I mean, tell that to David Chase from the Sopranos. And yeah, go Pats. Okay, let's check out this one from the 518. Yeah, Jake, this is Dave in the 518.

Just, I hope it's not too late, but just listening. And you asked about question of the week was going to be, what's the scariest book you ever read? I have to say it was a book called The Scream by Skip Inspector. or Craig Skip and Silk Specter or something like that. And I'll tell you what, it was about rock band from hell, and it was really, really good. Excellent.

And, oh, by the way, just one on the inside. I'm the Elroy fan that we talked about the JFK book about the, and you didn't use Bad Back Jack when you did the episode on JFK. Come on, Bad Back Jack. It's perfect for him. Keep it up. Thanks. Rock Band from Hell.

I love that. I love that, and I'm shocked that this isn't more well-known. And yes, I totally forgot about Bad Back Jack from James Elroy. I blew that. I left that one on the... I left that. That was a layup, and I missed it. Thanks for reminding me.

I went with Jack the haircut, which I've always appreciated more than bad back jack. It stuck with me for whatever reason. Thanks for your call 518. Let's check out this call from the 647. Hey, Jake. My name is Sean from Toronto, and you asked the question about the scariest book. for me, I believe it was called Hell House. And it was about a bunch of people that are looking into a haunted house.

It's supposed to be a real house. And there's a skeptic and, you know, all this kind of stuff that happens. I remember I was in Florida when I read it on a family trip. And we actually went to a psychic with my sister's friend. And I'm reading this creepy book. And the psychic actually says that there's, that if you're not careful, you could actually be taken. You have to be very careful. Thought of that was just horrifying. And I was reading this very horrifying book, albeit from the 70s, but still. And yeah, so for me, that was,

I'd say, my scariest book. Thanks, Jake. Love the show. I'm sorry for the beeping. So it does that sound. All right. Yes, you are on to something. Oftentimes, real life experiences, things that you're going with in tandem with whatever media you are consuming. It adds an intensity to the emotion that that media is giving you. And I think you're nailing it here. I remember reading chaos. This is a little different, but reading chaos by Tom, Tom O'Neill, and we were on vacation, and we were pretty remote,

and it just made the fear factor go through the freaking roof. 617-906-66-3638. Thanks for the voicemails, guys. Let's check out some texts. This text is truly crazy. This is a, I'm looking, back at the history in the text chain. And this gentleman has messaged me before. He's messaged me about O.J. Simpson. He's messaged me about Magnum PI. And I appreciated, I appreciated his text

prior. But this one, I have to read, even though it's a little critical of me. And I take that criticism and I get it. But that's not why I'm reading it. Okay, so here you go. Hey, Jake, I love the show, and I've been listening since you started. This is from the 217, by the way. It's at the top of my list of favorite podcasts, and I subscribed as soon as you started offering bonus stuff for listeners. Okay, cool. Thank you, 217.

I appreciate this. 217 goes on to say, I did want to comment on the latest show about The Exorcist. Obviously, there's no way that you could know with all the listeners that you have that one of us is an author who's written a lot of books, but most particular is a book I wrote about the true story behind the 19th. 149 exorcism in St. Louis. I loved what you did with the show. It was a great listen, but there was a lot of inaccuracies, starting with the fact that Ronald Hunkler never remembered what happened during the exorcism. Also, the exorcism with Father Hughes at the hospital never actually happened.

But there's a lot of bad information out there, so that really can't fall on you. I researched the case for 25 years and spoke to everyone who was still alive, including Ronald, as he turns out of the case. out, I was the one who revealed his name after his death in May of 2020. When he and I had first spoken, I had promised I would not reveal it until after he died. Sometimes I get credit for it, and sometimes I don't, and that's just the way it goes. If you ever decide you'd like to read more about the story, I'd be happy to send you one of my books. This is incredible. This is from author Troy Taylor.

His book is called The Devil Came to St. Louis. Great title, by the way. great, great, great, tile. And I have so many thoughts here. I really do. So, first of all, the inaccuracies, you know, I'm not, I'm not one of these people who pretends that I know everything and I get everything right. We get things wrong all the time. We're only as good as the information that's out there. We try to get it as right as possible. And I'm going to take Troy Taylor's word for it here, that we get some stuff wrong. Now, I want to read this book because there is a question. as it pertains to Ronald Hunkler and whether or not he was telling the truth about the exorcism.

And there was an article that I read, I believe it was in the New York Post, and it might have been one of these articles where the New York Post didn't do the journalism themselves, but they're quoting from another journalist in another paper. I'm not sure. But I'm pretty certain I read this in the New York Post recently. When I was researching this reel that we put together, which goes further into the story of Ronald Honkler and whether or not he believed that he was actually possessed. The story goes that he denies it at the end of his life.

But I would be interested in talking to Troy here to know what Troy actually thinks, and I should probably read his book, or maybe I can get Troy to come on the show and we can talk about it. That actually would be cool. Troy, if you're listening, I'm going to message you back.

Maybe we can do that. But the question I'm interested in knowing is, you know, you're saying here that Ronnie Hunkler didn't remember what happened during the exorcism. So if that's the case, how then would he know whether or not he was actually possessed? And when I read that New York Post article, when I read the research that went into this episode that were, guys, 617-906-66-6638, voicemail and text, get in touch like Troy here, even if you're an author. Authors are welcome. Very welcome. Hit us up. 859 writes in, hey Jake, your chat with Adam from low-cut Connie last week inspired me to finally reach out.

Anyone with a chance to catch a low-cut Connie Live should do so themselves. Do themselves a favor. Get to their show. Here's a goofy pick taken by a friend, and this is the 859 in a low-cut Connie t-shirt. Looking cool. Looks like you're in a bar having fun. 9-20, scariest book ever. House of Leaves by Mark Z. Danielowski.

Daniel Luski. I apologize, Mark, if I'm fucking up your name. I could not read this at night. Super immersive reading experience. You feel like you're going crazy as a protagonist is going crazy. Trying to figure out his weird house. It keeps morphing and changing. That sounds horrific. All right, guys, 617-90666-6-3-8. Like I said, hit me up, voicemail and text. Also, you can always DM me on X on Instagram. Hit me up on Facebook at Discracelam Pod. All of those places. Budeca underscore Rex. writes, listen to the disgrace land podcast about Brian Jones. Wow, that guy was a total horrible man. He beat up all the women in his life, all except one. A black girl from Chicago broke his ribs,

his jaw on his hand, and I love her for this. I love that, Budeka Ricks. That's how you pronounce your name. Vet Hanlon writes, great episode, as always. I particularly like the background music during the bag murder section. Reminded me the American Horror Story Season 11. Guys, I've never watched American Horror Story. I do need to read that. Vet Helen is talking about our Exorcist episode. At this Graceland pod, guys, hit me up on anything you want to talk about. In particular, though, I'm looking for some Christmas book wrecks.

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but the limited edition T-shirts are not showing up under merch. Is there a super secret link that I've missed? Keep up the great work, by the way. I love your podcast, Rocka Rola. Gene, I hate to say this, but we're out. we've we've gone through they're available for a limited time they are gone they are no longer available uh we have a couple stashed away we're about to get them sent to my place and i will be uh i don't know i don't even know what the sizes are i think um i have to check it out but we may be able to get

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Woo! Dave. Dave, you're absolutely right. I agree with you fully. And I'm planning on speaking about that with a little more context and just sort of from my point of view, my experience growing up. We get into the after-party bonus section of this episode coming up. Appreciate your email, guys. Disgracelandpod at gmail.com. Hit me up about whatever it is you want to talk about.

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Appreciate that. Joey goes on to say some really nice things about me. I'm not going to read those to you because, you know, my egos, I got a full lid here, guys. Okay. Lots of love for the Misfits episode and the Black Sabbath episode and from the punk rock kids and the skaters as well on Apple Podcast. I appreciate you guys. All of you guys. Thank you for the review. If you heard me read your review, let me know. Get in touch. Discreacelandpot at gmail.com. Hit me up on Instagram at Disgracelandpot or X anywhere. And I will get your details and get you some merch. Well, all right. This episode, it's nearing its end. But the after party continues for our all access members. Okay. Sign up today. Disgrace Pod.com slash membership and you can sign up as well. You're going to get this extra content in the bonus after party episode that I'm about to get into here with some of you guys. You're going to get ad free listening and an extra episode per month. All right. Back in a flash. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl.

You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends, Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care, so they take matters into their own hands.

I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler,

we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When, like, young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever. My first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? Rather be disappointed in. Do that. Dennis Leary.

I wake up, and I'm. hitting him in the head with a water bomb. And Bruce Jenner is on the aisle in a karate stance, like he's about to attack me, like, making karate noises. And his entire, the Kardashian family over there, everybody's going, and the air marshal is trying to grab my arms and screaming. And I immediately know that I've been asleep walking.

David O'Yellowo. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships, or religion or sex or addiction, or you just go straight for the gut. Guy Branham. So anyway, Nicole Kidman broke up with Keith Thurban. Being half of a country couple was always a hat she was going to wear, not like a life she was going to lead. Oh, interesting. I like that. Did you practice that on your way over? Gaten Matarazzo from Stranger Things. Santa Muju, Camilla Morone, Carrie Kenny Silver, and more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your

Podcasts. Just like great shoes, great books take you places. Through unforgettable love stories and into conversations with characters you'll never forget. I think any good romance, it gives me this feeling of like butterflies. I'm Danielle Robeye, and this is bookmarked by Reese's Book Club from Hello Sunshine and IHeart Podcast, where we dive into the stories that shape us on the page and off. Each week I'm joined by authors, celebs, book talk stars,

and more for conversations that will make you laugh, cry, and add way too many books to your TBR pile. Listen to Bookmarked by Reese's Book Club on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Brought to you by Cotton, the Fabric of Our Lives. All right, we are back. Listen, guys, we did a little slight update to the website. We rearranged the archived episodes.

You can check those out. You can swim through it a little more easily. to season. I've got a list of my favorites up there. I think I talked about that last week. But this week, a couple days ago, Phil Lesh died from the Grateful Dead, base player for the Grateful Dead. He's obviously a part of our Grateful Dead episode in the archive. And I always love Phil Lesh as a character, just a truly unique American. He never could have been from anywhere else. And it's, I'm not going to really go into it here because we don't have the time, but check out episode number 29 on the Grateful Dead, part one. That was really.

released back in April of 2019, April 16th, 2019. Then we did part two in the Grateful Dead as well. This one on Pigpen. And we use Pigpen as really a way into the earlier influences of the Grateful Dead in a way for Phil Lesh. That's episode 64 from October 13th, 2020. The dead, a lot of people, I don't know if they know if true deadheads do know they're heavily influenced by John Coltrane. We don't have a John Coltrane episode. We do have some great jazz episodes, though, in particular the Chep Baker episode in our archive, episode 63 from September 29th, 2020.

In this episode, we didn't talk to too much about subjects that have appeared in our archive. A listener did bring up Brian Jones from the Rolling Stones, and that episode is episode 18, released way back in August, August 28, 2018. Guys, get into the archive, new listeners. have over 200 episodes, full episodes on artists, musicians, mainly, some from the dark world of entertainment. If you're looking for a good guide, a good way in, go to the website, disgracelandpod.com.

There's a listen page there. Got a drop-down menu that'll help guide you. All right, so thank you for the calls. Thank you for the voicemails. For those of you who joined in the book club this week, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you for the reviews, everything. I love the engagement. I got to get out of here, so let's recap, all right? Number one, right now in your feed, our episode on The Exorcist. Number two, coming tomorrow, a special rewind episode from our archive. And we are talking about the 86 Mets in next week's episode. And the question of the week is going to be, which is the greatest sports town, not just in America, but in the world. And why, all right? Get in touch. Number three, merch winners. You know who you are. You heard your name. Get in touch. Let me know how to get some stuff

to you. Number four. Remember, no one cares about great storytelling more than you doing well. That's a disgrace. All right. In honor, this week's episode, subject on the Exorcist, me reading you, the Billboard charts from December 26, 1973, the week, The Exorcist, hit theaters. Number one, the most beautiful girl, Charlie Rich. Last week, one. Peak position, one. Weeks on chart, 13. Number two, goodbye yellow brick road, Elton John.

Last week, two. Peak position, two. Weeks on chart, nine. Number three, time in a bottle, Jim Cro-Jour. Last week, five, peak position, number five, weeks on churn, six. Number four, leave me alone, Ruby Reddress, Helen Reddress, last week, seven, peak position, four, weeks on churn, eight, three, number five, week's on churn, number five, Talking and start mixing.

When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist, they take matters into their own hands. I vowed. I will be his last target. He is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves. We always say that trust your girlfriends. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia When like young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever. And my first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? Rather be disappointed in.

Do that. David O'Yelloo. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Dennis Leary, Gaten Moderato from Stranger Things. Tena Monsu. Camilla Morone. Carrie Kenny Silver and more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the Iheart radio app,

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