DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode: Hüsker Dü, A Disgo's Unbelievable Red Sox Story, and Lil' Kim's Post-Prison Career

Episode Date: June 22, 2023

On this week's After Party, Jake is ready to dive into this week's Disgraceland episode on Lil' Kim, and to talk about how her career thrived after she was released from prison. A Disgo shares a liter...al heartbreaker of a story about the 2004 Red Sox, Jake talks Hüsker Dü and FIDLAR, and so much more. Jake also wants to know which musician had the best post-prison career - Lil' Kim, Merle Haggard, Lil Wayne, or Paul McCartney? Send a message at 617-906-6638 or on socials @disgracelandpod and come join the After Party. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 This is exactly right. Double Elvis. When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist, they take matters into their own hands. I vowed. I will be his last target. He is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves. We always say that trust your girlfriends. Listen to the girlfriends.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Your husband is not who you think he is. Your body is not what you thought it was. Your identity is formed by a secret history. I'm Danny Shapiro. And these are just a few of the stunning stories I'll be exploring on the 14th season of Family Secrets.
Starting point is 00:01:00 He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move. And he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off. And that was the last time I saw him. Listen to Season 14 of Family Secrets, starting May 7th, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark.
Starting point is 00:01:22 When, like, young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever. My first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? You'd rather be disappointed in. Do that. David O'Yellowo. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Dennis Leary, Gaten Matarazzo from Stranger Things,
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Starting point is 00:02:09 I'm Danny Shapiro, and these are just a few of the stunning stories I'll be exploring the 14th season of Family Secrets. And just then, we felt the plain turn in the air, so much so that the bags that were under people's seats just kind of flew into the aisle. Each week, we dive head first into the complex power of secrecy, how it shapes our identities and relationships,
Starting point is 00:02:33 and how it ultimately can reveal to us our truest selves. My daughter, she's pretending she doesn't know, but is trying to cook and feed me and keep me alive because I wasn't eating anything and me pretending like everything was fine. He kind of showed me out of the way and said, move. And he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off. And that was the last time I saw him. Listen to season 14 of Family Secrets, starting May 7th on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:02:59 or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When like young people come up to me, want to be an actor or whatever. My first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? Rather be disappointed in. Do that.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Dennis Leary. I wake up and I'm hitting him in the head with a water bomb. And Bruce Jenner is on the aisle in a karate stance like he's about to attack me. Making karate noises. And his entire the Kardashian family over there, everybody's going, and the air marshal is trying to grab my arms and screaming. I immediately know that I've been at sleepwalk. David O'Yellowo.
Starting point is 00:03:46 I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Guy Branham. So anyway, Nicole Kidman broke up with Keith Thurban. Being half of a country couple was always a hat she was going to wear, not like a life she was going to lead. Oh, interesting. I like that. Did you practice that on your way over? Gaten Moderato from Stranger Things.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Tana Monsu. Camilla Marone, Carrie Kenny Silver, and more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Remember when you'd walk into your local video rental place and there were always those two employees behind the counter
Starting point is 00:04:32 arguing about movies? Well, that's us. I'm Millie de Cherico. And I'm Casey O'Brien. And now we're arguing about movies on our podcast Dear Movies I Love You from the Exactly Right Network. Can I say something about the Criterion Clause? Go ahead, dude.
Starting point is 00:04:46 They're letting too many people in there. Okay, that's another film, gripe I got to. Sadly, that rental place doesn't exist anymore. It's probably a store that sells running shoes. Or an ice cream shop with an extra P and an E at the end. So consider us your Slacker Movie Clerks in podcast form. I would like to establish a timeline of the moment you figured out who Channing Taitan was. Every Tuesday, we dig into the movies we can't stop obsessing over, from hidden gems to big
Starting point is 00:05:15 screen favorites. New episodes drop every week on the exactly right network. Listen to Dear Movies I Love You on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, Discos, need a little more disgrace land in your life? Just a touch to get you through. Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the After Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, a little thing we like to call the after party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of disgrace land to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. On this episode, we are talking about Lil Kim, a literal Red Sox heartbreaker from a caller, fiddler, and of course your voicemails, text, DMs, and more. And as always, a whole lot of rosy.
Starting point is 00:06:21 All right, discos, let's get into it. Yes, yes, yes. Welcome to the disgrace land bonus episode where we are hoping to not perjure ourselves and get sent to the big house like this week's subject of disgrace land, Lil Kim. Lil Kim on record might be the baddest female artist of them all, as we outlined in this week's full episode of Little Kim in Disgraceland and Off Record.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Lil Kim was also bad, bad, bad, lying is bad, lying is not good in any. any aspect of your life, and it will not get you very far in criminal court, okay? And shootouts, shootouts are also, you got it, bad. Shootouts in broad daylight, especially bad, in the middle of a major city like downtown Manhattan, also the makings of bad, bad individuals. The crime, okay, the crime here at the heart of the Lil Kim's story, it's, again, detailed in the full episode. I'm not going to go through the whole thing again, but what I want to drill down into here
Starting point is 00:07:31 in this bonus episode, the part of the story that I thought was interesting that I didn't get to spend a lot of time on some time, but not a lot of time in the full episode, is the punishment for the crime that Little Kim committed. And look, it's a simple story. Lil Kim and her crew, they were involved in a shootout. Lil Kim lied on the stand to protect her crew. And Lil Kim was proven to be a liar. She perjured herself. She was sentenced to real time a year and a day. And she did almost all that time. She got out on Good Beard. behavior a couple months shaved off her sentence or something like that. I can't remember exactly what it was. The judge who, this is ridiculous, the judge who sentenced Lil' Kim was inspired by Martha Stewart's sentencing for her crime of insider trading. But Martha Stewart got to do her time in a minimum security prison. Little Kim was sent to Philadelphia Federal Detention Center. Now, you can argue whether or not that's fair or not or what the reasons behind it were, the type of crime that Lil Kim perjured herself over versus the type of crime that Martha Stewart was involved with,
Starting point is 00:08:35 but lying is lying. And the punishments here were different, okay? Little Kim, like Martha Stewart, though, thrived after her release from prison. Little Kim dropped her fourth album, The Naked Truth, from behind bars. It was something like her first week in jail or something in prison, excuse me,
Starting point is 00:08:56 that that record came out. And it was a smash. And for a moment there, upon Lil Kim's release and throughout the Midots, her career thrived. Like, it was a whole other thing. It was a whole new act. It was huge. It was massive. I mean, record sales, big albums, the whole thing, shows everything.
Starting point is 00:09:18 So, you know, the question is, this is what I want to get into. There's the issue of the punishment. Was the punishment fair, right? The judge was said to have been inspired by Martha Stewart sentencing, and that's what influenced the sentencing of little Kim, yet the types of prisons they were sentenced to were two totally different things. Okay, so number one was the punishment fair. Number two, to going to prison help Kim's career, did it help her career thrive? It's my opinion that prison definitely helped Tupac's career after after he got out of jail, California love, banger,
Starting point is 00:09:52 banger, single in his death row profile post-prison, he was huge, huge. Huge. And again, California love might be his best song. Lil Wayne, weapons and drug charges. It resulted in an eight to 12 month sentence. We detailed the Lil Wayne stuff back in season seven of disgrace land. Post-prison, Louis Wayne, huge, okay, huge, even now. He's nothing, if not culturally relevant. He's massive.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Steve Earl, I don't know if a lot of you know, Steve Earl. He was this, you know, hardcore troubadour, Americana, country guy, great songwriter. You know, it was supposed to be the air to Bob Dylan, started hanging around with Guns and Roses in the 80s, got hooked on a lot of drugs, did time for narcotics beef and wrote an incredible record, Trane a Coming from behind bars. And, you know, when he did that, he got out of jail, that record came out and he got a Grammy nomination for the album after his release from prison. Merle Haggard, another country guy, much earlier than Steve Earl, obviously, his entire career came post-prison time in San Quentin. Paul McCartney, Paul McCartney,
Starting point is 00:10:55 he did time. It was only 10 days, and it was in 1980, but it was in a real, prison in Japan. And correct me if I'm wrong, but Paul McCartney has had quite the career over the past 40 years. So what about the musicians who are currently behind bars? Y&W. Melly, or what about T.K. 47, or Big Lurch, two artists that we covered back in season one of Disgraceland, or, or R. Kelly, who's in jail right now, who we haven't covered, who I'm waiting to cover, who I'm still trying to figure out how to cover. Or Shug Knight. I know Shug Knight. is not a musician, but he's definitely a music industry. He's been featured heavily on the show
Starting point is 00:11:34 and multiple episodes on Tupac and the notorious BIG. When these guys get out, more specifically, these artists, are they going to have careers if they get out? You know, are they going to have bigger career? 617-906-66-36-38. Let me know your answer and let me know which musician has had the best post-prisoned career in your eyes. Lil Kim, Merle Haggard, Lil Wayne, Paul McCartney.
Starting point is 00:12:00 And assuming they're ever released, can we expect any careers at all from R. Kelly, Take A, or Big Lurch? I think I know the answer to that one, but I'm going to ask anyways. 617-906-66-3638. Leave your answer via voicemail or text. Or you can hit me at Disgraceland Pod on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, wherever. Twitter, I'll be back in the flash. All right, we are back.
Starting point is 00:12:34 And you know the drill, as I said there at the end of that block. 617-906-66-6-6-36-3-8 to send a text or leave a voicemail. Like, your husband is not who you think he is. Your body is not what you thought it was. Your identity is formed by a secret history. I'm Danny Shapiro, and these are just a few of the stunning stories I'll be exploring on the 14th season of Family Secrets. And just then, we felt the plain turn in the air, so much so that the bags that were under people's seats just kind of flew into the aisle.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Each week, we dive headfirst into the complex power of secrecy, how it shapes our identities and relationships, and how it ultimately can reveal to us our truest selves. My daughter, she's pretending she doesn't know, but is trying to cook and feed me and keep me alive because I wasn't eating anything, and me pretending like everything was fine. He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move.
Starting point is 00:13:28 And he went out the front door, and he jumped in a car and drove off, and that was the last time I saw him. Listen to season 14 of Family Secrets, starting May 7th on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When like young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever, my first thing is
Starting point is 00:13:53 always, can you think of anything else that you can do? Rather be disappointed in. Do that. Dennis Leary. I wake up and I'm hitting him in the head. with a water bomb. And Bruce Jenner is on the aisle in a karate stance, like he's about to attack me, like,
Starting point is 00:14:11 making karate noises. And his entire, the Kardashian family over there, everybody's going, and the air marshal is trying to grab my arms and screaming. And I immediately know that I've been asleep walking. David O'Yello. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Guy Branum.
Starting point is 00:14:35 So anyway, Nicole Kimman broke up with Keith Thurban. Being half of a country couple was always a hat she was going to wear, not like a life she was going to lead. Oh, interesting. I like that. Did you practice that on your way over? Gaten Madarazzo from Stranger Things. Tena Monsu. Camilla Morone at Carrie Kenny Silver.
Starting point is 00:14:57 And more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Remember when you'd walk into your local video rental place and there were always those two employees behind the counter arguing about movies? Well, that's us. I'm Millie de Cherico. And I'm Casey O'Brien. And now we're arguing about movies on our podcast, Dear Movies I Love You, from the Exactly Right Network. Can I say something about the Criterion closet?
Starting point is 00:15:25 Go ahead, dude. They're letting too many people in there. Okay, that's another film grape I got two. Sadly, that rental place doesn't exist anymore. It's probably a store that sells running shoes. Or an ice cream shop with an extra pee and an E at the end. So consider us your slacker movie clerks in podcast form. I would like to establish a timeline of the moment you figured out who Channing Tatum was.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Every Tuesday, we dig into the movies we can't stop obsessing over it, from hidden gems to big screen favorites. New episodes drop every week on the exactly right network. Listen to Dear Movies I Love You on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Amber here from North Carolina in the 252. Hey, Jake, it's Amber from North Carolina and the 252. I've got to say my top five are Lupe Fiasco, Brother Ali, Biggie, atmosphere, and I don't know, I guess I'll throw in Twista. Or common.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Or it's me. One of those two. All right. Thanks for the great work. I've been a long time listener. Keep up. All right, thanks for the voicemail, Amber. Amber was kind enough to send us to send in her top five MCs.
Starting point is 00:16:42 This is a question that surfaced in one of our bonus episodes from a couple days back. Solid list, but Amber, I don't know that I have any of your top fives on my list. Mine are decidedly more old school and will likely generate much side eye from you youngens. Number one, I go Ice Cube. Number two, JZ, three, slick Rick, four, Chuck D, five. Can I say all three Beastie Boys for number five? Can I? I can.
Starting point is 00:17:08 I'm making up the rules. So that's what I'm going to do. Ad Rock, Mike D.MCA combined for number five. That's my top five MC list. Got a lot of incoming on this. I feel like this deserves its own sort of episode or something. There's like I said in our mini episode, the 50th anniversary of hip hop is coming up.
Starting point is 00:17:29 I want to explore this question more. Top five MCA. of all time. We've got 50 years to choose from. Is Eminem on this list? Who else? Who are we forgetting? Who are we not talking about?
Starting point is 00:17:44 Nas. God, there's so many. Lil Wayne, there's so many here that we should probably litigate to some degree. I'm not exactly sure in what forum, but I want to dig in a little deeper. 617-906-66-36-38.
Starting point is 00:18:01 We'll get into more of your top five MCs. Keep the recommendations on that one coming. Your suggestions, let me know. All right, I've been talking a lot about sports lately, mainly baseball, and a little basketball, sort of with some levity. But mainly baseball, because I'm once again obsessed with the sport. And despite the Red Sox and how they've been playing this year, though they have been good over the last weekend, they just swept the Yankees. And I was there for one of the games. Yeah, I'm just, I'm all in on the Red Sox.
Starting point is 00:18:33 I'm all in on the college world series for the first time in my life. I'm all in on the Miami Marlins as a National League team. A lot of this has to do with my kids. I talked about this before, but we got this message here. This might be a Hall of Fame disgraceland voicemail here from Mark in the 401. Let's listen to it. Jake, this is Mark in Providence. I'm going to speak nice and slow.
Starting point is 00:18:57 I'm not going to overmodulate. The Boston Red Sox, the last home game I saw was October. first 2004 Sunday night the red slabs were down 0 and 3 I had ticket I had box seats me and my girlfriend
Starting point is 00:19:12 we were freezing a fucking asses off in the fourth running inning I said Pat let's get the hell out of here we jump we get on the T drive out to the get out in the T station with 13 stops
Starting point is 00:19:28 getting the car go home Red Sox famously stole the base David Ortiz had a home run. They won the World Series. I left. I'm the joke of the town. Can't believe it. First game, and then following year, 2005, they get their rings.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Guy across the street says, I'm pumped. I'm going to watch this game. I took the day off. I was working in a bank. They owed me a day off. Within one hour of the game starting, the ambulances pull up to his house. He died of a fucking hot attack. He was so excited.
Starting point is 00:20:02 He owned the old. Time is tap in Providence, Rhode Island. True story, none of it's false. If you want, Google it. That was the first opening day of 2005. But I was there 2004, and I missed the whole motherfucking thing. Okay? Trying not to overmodulate.
Starting point is 00:20:20 That was a terrible phone call I made. Thanks. Rock and roller. Wild story, Mark. Dude, I don't even know what to say, except the channel, my inner De Niro, and from Copeland and just say, you blew it!
Starting point is 00:20:36 You blew it! Should have stated that game, dude. Although, I don't blame me for leaving. I probably would have done the same thing. Seriously, that's like just in my nature to do that. But, yeah, man, I don't know what to tell you. That's an all-timer. That story belongs in like a fucking Matt Damon movie or something.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Sorry to hear about your friend's heart attack as well. That is brutal. You know, and Mark, you know, you're free to overmull. modulate with me anytime you want brother all right um also mark you worked in a bank and you're from providence so i'm not convinced that you're not a character from the friends of edie coil so by all means uh stay in touch and stay out of prison okay uh socks might be clawed back this year like i said earlier i was as one of the games over the weekend was supposed to go uh saturday night with my two sons and my stepdad little father's day plan it poured out uh they rescheduled
Starting point is 00:21:29 for sunday and we get there we sit down Yankees go up, uh, two-oh, first inning. It's like, oh boy, this is gonna be brutal.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Uh, then the socks came back and they won. And it was actually a really great game. It wasn't a blowout. It was close for a while. Then the socks went ahead comfortably. It was an awesome time.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Only thing that was, that was weird and different is like, I can, I've been to a lot of Red Sox Yankees games at Fenway, and I have never, ever seen this many Yankees fans at a Red Sox game in my life. It wasn't 50-50,
Starting point is 00:22:02 but it felt like it at times. It felt close. It was brutal. And just like Yankees fans, like brazen, I remember a time when that was not allowed at all, not even close. I suppose it's better that it is now, but still, it was a little like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:22:19 Anyways, Yankees lost. Yankees got swept, all right? So there you have it. Also, I just got to say to Red Sox fans, the Yankees suck chant, right? Like, it doesn't work when the Yankees are four games up. in the standings. We sound like assholes, okay?
Starting point is 00:22:35 It's an asshole chant if you're behind the other team. Unless you're in like a division series or something, and it's a one game playoff or something like that and, you know, somebody fucks up on the other team or something, I get that. But when you're down, when you're down four games in the fucking standings, like, come on, we're better than that, Boston. All right, enough sports.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Let's do this voicemail from the 801. I love the lyrical way you put your words together. I mean, it's not just a fantastic story. but it's like poetry listening to you. I really like your thing on Robert Johnson, and there's a lot of stuff for years I haven't heard yet, so, hey. After party with Justin Bieber, and you're talking about bad dads, and you might check out Rick James.
Starting point is 00:23:24 He was, like, kind of a pop star in the 70s. I think it was like soul pop, punk. His bad killed him, from what I understand. And also, if you could do a show about rock stars who themselves are bad dads, like John Lennon, he used to brag about how he loved hating women. And John Lennon also loved his first wife and child with no child support. So anyway, some ideas. And thanks for the great show.
Starting point is 00:23:50 And that's it. You go bye. Adios. Adios from Sacramento. Bye. All right. Thank you, 801 for the kind words about Robert Johnson and for your listenership. A couple things.
Starting point is 00:24:04 I believe you're a new listener, so I'm going to just give you a couple things here. Believe you're confusing Rick James with Marvin Gay, but, but, but, 801. I have no fear, 801. We have episodes on both artists, including Marvin Gay's murder at the hands of his father, just in time for Father's Day.
Starting point is 00:24:23 And also on Father's Day, I hear you on John Lennon. However, I think that the story is a little more nuanced. For what I mean on that, check out the three John Lennon episodes that we've done specifically, the two-parter that's further back in the archive. And we get into his relationship with Sean,
Starting point is 00:24:39 not so much Julian. But yeah, John Lennon, not a perfect guy. Made some mistakes, a toned for a lot of them. Definitely not a black and white situation. So check that out, 801. And let me know what you think. All right, get back to me, leave another voicemail. Okay, good voicemails.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Trying to keep these episodes tight. Trying to keep them to about 25, 30 minutes. So, you know, we've got, I don't know if you guys know, we've got these other, we've got this other bonus episode. There was mini episode we're doing, excuse me, on Mondays where we're teeing up the week. I'm answering the emails over there now. We've got the rap party where I'm also answering voicemails and texts. Going to hope to be doing more of that on social media as well and really round out this engagement with you guys as best as I possibly can. Let's, though, for the time being right here, move on from the voicemails and get into some texts.
Starting point is 00:25:30 All right. Last, let's see, in the pre-party episode, we talk about odd music collaborations in our mini episode on Monday with, because of the little Kim Tommy Lee thing that went down. So I asked you guys for some of your stranger music collaborations. Got this one from the 314. Okay, for odd music collaborations, I don't know if you can get any weirder than Bing Crosby and David Bowie doing. little drummer boy. Yes, that is weird. Super weird, but it works somehow. A lot of you guys will know that one. I got a weird one coming up for you here later in this episode.
Starting point is 00:26:11 And when I read that text, the reason I picked that text to read, I read all the text in real time. I don't sort of like pre-vet them or anything. When I read it here, when I glanced at it, I read Bing Crosby as David Crosby, and my brain went, oh my God, David Crosby and David Bowie.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Collaborated together. That's fucked up. But, of course, it was the Bing Crosby one. All right, let's move on. In reference to our summer soundtrack question from a couple weeks back. From the 281, we've got a text here, Summer of Love. Oh, we're asking about best summer jams in light of summertime by Will Smith. So 281 writes in, hi Jake, Summer of Love by the B50 Cheers.
Starting point is 00:26:48 I don't know that song. Summer of 69 by Brian Adams. I know that song. I bought that on 45 when I was a little boy. How cheesy was I? Boys of Summer by Dawn Henley. Yep, great one. Summer nights by Greece, or in Greece, I should say.
Starting point is 00:27:04 And last summer by the motels, I don't know that one. And bonus track, Hot Child in the city. All right, that's a solid list there. Solid list, some classic rock ones there. What else we got here? From the 864, Jake, father of all podcasts. Happy Father's Day from your number one fan, Elaine. Laney from the 864.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Thank you, Laney. I appreciate that. Let's see, what else we got here? Got another text here from the 410. Is that right? It says, thanks for the Foo Fighter interview. Got my T-shirt, been online, three hours, grabbed two Madonna tickets for Boston, 831-23.
Starting point is 00:27:42 That's awesome. Have fun at Madonna. I'm a little bummed. I bought Madonna tickets when she was supposed to come about two years ago. And maybe I might have been more three years ago. She canceled. And it really pissed me off for some reason. I was really excited to go.
Starting point is 00:27:58 So when she announced these shows, I was like, oh, fuck that, fuck Madonna. But that's just silly. I don't know. I should probably go see Madonna. I don't think she's going to be around, Torr much longer. No, I don't mean that to sound
Starting point is 00:28:09 like there's anything ominous happening, but, you know, how long can people tour for? That's all I'm saying. All right. All right, got a text here from the 508. Hey, Jake, this is Tracy from the 508, and it's not my aunt, Tracy, because she spells her name differently.
Starting point is 00:28:23 She says, I'm admittedly playing catch-up on episodes, and I'm about to listen to the Bieber episode, not my music, but I'm so glad that you did it. I feel like his story is exactly the type of story that the podcast is about, no matter what his style of music is, I'm interested to hear you take on it. I've often wondered how I would have handled that much money and freedom at that age. I'm pretty sure I'd have engaged in some bad behavior too.
Starting point is 00:28:42 So I've always given him a little slack. Love the pod. Thanks for doing what you do, Tracy. Thanks, Tracy. And yeah, you know, it's from the beginning. This podcast has not been about a particular style of music. I definitely follow my interest and I am more inclined. to the classic rock, punk rock, hip hop universe,
Starting point is 00:29:01 than I am the pop universe. But still, to me, it's all about the humanity. It's all about the human stories. So I'll go in any direction I can. And I'm happy to hear that you are here for it. Thank you, Tracy. All right, we'll do one more text here from the 9-28. Greetings, Jake.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Love all the double-elves offerings. Just listen to the after-party episode with Chris Schifflett. And I automatically thought of a couple guitar players. He should try to get Tim Henson and Scotty LaPage, both of Polyphia, if you've not heard these guys, you should. Thank you for your hard work and keep the episodes coming. Please, you got it 9-28. I've never heard of Tim Henson and Scotty LePage,
Starting point is 00:29:35 but I will pass this message along to the folks at Double Elvis, to the producers and to Chris. And of course, this is a reference to the Chris Shifflet from the Food Fighters podcast that we produce for Double Elvis called Shred with Shifty. This is, if you guys don't know about this, you probably do because I interviewed Chris in the last after party. But if you don't, it is a podcast Chris has with a video component, Chris sits down with some amazing guitar players and they go through their legendary riffs as sort of a tutorial of sorts.
Starting point is 00:30:03 And this was some pretty big heavy hitters that you're going to want to learn your riffs from. So search shred with Shifty wherever you get your podcast. All right. You guys know, 617-90666-36-38. That is the way to contact me. Leave me a voicemail. Send me a text. But you can also get in touch via Instagram, Facebook.
Starting point is 00:30:26 and even sometimes Twitter, I will respond. But mainly Instagram, Facebook, and TikTok. And let's do a couple DM responses here. Let me pull up the old Instagram machine. Make sure I got the right stuff. Here we go. So this one from, who is this from? Ashley Lauren writes, first of all,
Starting point is 00:30:48 it's a picture of the Bond Scott statue, which is a pretty great statue. It says, Bon Scott statue in Fremantle, where he grew up. My friend's dad told me the other day he was a professional footballer in Frio in the 70s, and Bon Scott always stole the girls.
Starting point is 00:31:03 He picked up that he couldn't compete, but he couldn't hate him because he was too good of a guy. That's a pretty cool message. Thank you, Ashley, Lauren. What else we got? I apologize if I screw up the pronunciation of your name here, but I got Jeanette Vecerelli.
Starting point is 00:31:19 I think that's right. I think that's right. It says, very simply put, I love your podcast so much. I come home from hikes, and I constantly, quote, did you know, to my husband? Love that.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Thanks, Jeanette. That makes me happy. All right. This one is from the carpet beatniks on Instagram. Hey, Jake, I'd love it if Shifty could interview David Rawlings, how he shreds on an acoustic as wild, but I'd also be curious how he plays with Gillian Welsh's voice or Gillian Welch.
Starting point is 00:31:48 I never know which one it is. Also, what are the numbers you give on your callers and emailers? The numbers? the numbers you give on your callers and emailers. Well, there's 617-906-66-66-38. That's how you call it. As for David Rawlings, that's an incredible suggestion for Shred with Shifty.
Starting point is 00:32:07 I saw David Rawlings and Jillian-Gillian Welch back in, I don't know, maybe it was like 0-4, 05 in Boston, and my goodness were they good. and he was especially good. The guy is a monster guitar player. All right, at Discrace Lamppod. That's how you get in touch to me on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, and TikTok 617-906-66-66-3-8.
Starting point is 00:32:35 Leave a voicemail on a text. I'm going to take a quick break. I'll be back in a second with some recommendations. All right, the recommendations part. This is the recommendations part. The part where we recommend the things that need recommending the recommendations part. Guys, all right, what I'm watching, yes,
Starting point is 00:33:03 the movie recommendations part is now on the Badlands bonus. episode. However, it is here in the after party where we still dig into music-related video content, including documentaries and biopics. And on that, I was, uh, you know, I was home alone over the weekend. Well, it's with my kids, but my wife was away. So, you know, my wife's not watching TV with me. I'm kind of just like cruising. I'm just, I'm just surfing. I'm just watching 10 minutes of this, 20 minutes of that, half an hour of that, hour of that, staying up way too late, caught a little bit of coal miner's daughter over the weekend. That was just, on. I can't remember what Networker was on. For those of you who don't know this movie, I feel like
Starting point is 00:33:41 there are so many music biopics that get mentioned. And this one seldomly is mentioned as one of the best. And I think it might be the best music biopic out there. It's, I didn't watch the whole thing again. So I don't know. I can't confidently say that. But it's the story of Loretta Lynn. Sissy Spac plays Loretta Lynn. Levon Helm from the band, plays her dad. It's just what I love about this movie is that it is a hardcore reality check against the other biopics out there. Without giving anything away, it's raw, it's real, there's a grit to it,
Starting point is 00:34:17 I believe it's early 80s, it feels 70s though, and it's just, it's not yet the sort of Hollywood music biopic industry machine had not yet created this mold for these types of movies. So this one kind of existed on its own for a while and could afford to be grittier and more raw and real. And it's just tremendous.
Starting point is 00:34:45 And it's a great Loretta Loretta's story in and of itself is fantastic. And they do a great job putting it on the screen. So I highly recommend Coal Miner's daughter if you haven't seen it. Highly recommend watching it again if you have seen it. Just caught my eye over the weekend, figured it worth mentioning. What I'm listening to, I don't know why. maybe because the weather's getting warmer, maybe because I've been working out more
Starting point is 00:35:06 and I need this for the workouts, but I've been listening to a ton of Hoosker Do. Just all of it, really, the entire catalog, even the sad stuff, something about it I find to be incredibly motivating. But still, there are so many great Hoosker Do records. Zen Arcade is one of, not just my favorite Husker Do albums,
Starting point is 00:35:27 but one of my favorite double albums of all time. People will argue that there's filler on it, but I think even the so-called filler is fantastic on this album. The Grant Hart songs on this record are fucking great. Turn on the news. Oh, my God. But also, flip your wig, New Day Rising. It's this constant.
Starting point is 00:35:47 It's bangor after bangor after bangor. And the production is so fucking shitty in 80s and crappy 80s punk. I love it. I love it so much. And I've rediscovered it. And if there are people out there who are into this type of music but have not gotten into Husker Do for whatever reason, because they weren't black flag, because they weren't the sex pistols, they weren't the pixies, who fucking cares?
Starting point is 00:36:12 They are their own thing. And just they are tremendous. So, you know, if you got questions on where to start with Husker do, hit me up, ask me, I will point you in the right direction. Shit, if I get enough incoming on this, I'll even make my own mix, my entry-level correspondence course Husker-Doo. for you folks out there. 617-90666-66-3-8
Starting point is 00:36:33 at Disgracelam Pod. I've also been listening to a ton of fiddler so much so that I had about a week ago I had to forcibly stop myself from listening to this band because their songs were so ingrained into my like wormholeing into my brain. It's all I could think about
Starting point is 00:36:55 were these fucking silly songs about all about the same thing, getting completely fucked up. In the most juvenile sort of early 20s, you know, post-teenage kind of way, this band, they're not a new band by any means. They've been around for a while. And I've known about them for a while. And I've listened to them here and there for a while.
Starting point is 00:37:19 But recently, I've just really dug into this band. I saw a live clip on Instagram. Something popped up in my stories, and it really took me, captured me. So I just, you know, went into the warm hole and I've yet to come out. I can't, they have this, they have this Spotify. You know, Spotify does this sort of like,
Starting point is 00:37:39 this is the band, you know, it's like, or whatever, 30 songs on that band that are supposed to be a comprehensive look at the group. There's not one bad fucking song on the Spotify. This is Fiddler playlist. I mean it. There's not one bad song. There's not one skip on it.
Starting point is 00:37:55 It's that good. But warning. If you're looking for variety, this ain't your band. They do the ACDC thing. It's like, or the Ramones thing. It's like, you know, we do one thing and we do it really fucking well. And that thing with regards to Fiddler is, you know, fast, in your face, raw, Southern California slash modern punk. And every single song is about getting fucked up in your life falling apart.
Starting point is 00:38:25 So if you're into that kind of thing, I highly recommend Fiddleman. All right. My vintage video watching over the weekend. Now, this is a direct correlation to another topic we have going on here about the weirdest collaborations. And I don't know if the fine folks at Meta and Instagram have figured out a way to make the Instagram machine's algorithm just sort of like jump out of the phone through the air into my ears, wrap itself around my brain, pull my interest out back through my ear. and into the phone, and maybe they're listening. Of course they're listening.
Starting point is 00:39:01 I don't know what it was, but as we're sort of having this talk about weird collaborations, this video pops up with Neil Young and Devo playing together. One of those things where, how the fuck did I not know about this? This is why I love the internet more than,
Starting point is 00:39:16 this is the main reason I love the internet. There are these things that have happened in music history. I've read so much music history. It's shocking to me that when I come across things like this, that are right in my wheelhouse that I did not know existed.
Starting point is 00:39:31 I did not know Neil Young and Devo played together. It's incredible, as you would expect. It's great. So if you know about this already, congratulations and forgive me for boring you, but if you do not know about this,
Starting point is 00:39:46 you have to search this out. I'm going to try to figure out a way to post this on my Instagram. Highly recommend the Neil Young Devo collaboration. Tremendous stuff. Uh, again, I'm down for this weird collaboration topic. You want to keep it going.
Starting point is 00:40:01 617-90666-6638 for that and any other kind of music or music video or music-related content recommendations you guys have. 6179066668. Hit me up there or at Disgraceland Pod on the socials and I'll be back in a flash. All right. Let's recap. Shall we? Number one, Lil Kim is the latest episode of Disgraceland in your feeds right now.
Starting point is 00:40:45 That's the disgraceland feed. Number two, over in the Badlands Feed this week, we've got an episode on Mel Gibson, number three. Next week in the disgrace land feed, Arrowsmith, number four, my number, 617-906-66-6638. Call me on the telephone or text me, leave me a voicemail, hit me at Disgraceland Pod. All right, in honor of Lil Kim, me reading you,
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