DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode: Justin Timberlake, Eighteen Banners, and Ghostwriter Grandstanding

Episode Date: June 20, 2024

This week in the After Party, Jake talks boring versus exciting news, charitable organizations, this week's DISGRACELAND episode on OJ Simpson, and of course your emails, texts, DMs, and voicemails. What charitable organization benefiting victims of drunk driving should Jake donate to? Which three disgraced athletes would you team up with for your fantasy charity golf tournament? Where were you when OJ Simpson was leading police on a chase in his white Bronco? Drop a line at 617-906-6638, [e-mail], or on socials @disgracelandpod, and come join the After Party.To hear an extended version of the After Party with a story about OJ's ghostwriter and his connection to the murder case, and more from the DISGRACELAND community, become a Disgraceland All Access member at disgracelandpod.com/membership. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is exactly right. Double Elvis. Hey, Discos, you can listen to an extended version of this after-party episode by becoming a member of Disgraceland All Access. Just go to disgracelandpod.com slash membership for more details and to sign up. What's up, guys? Welcome to Disgraceland, which is brought to you by Double Elvis. This week, we have an episode on OJ Simpson in the Disgraceland Feed,

and for our All Access members in our Patreon and Apple subscription feeds, get ready for a brand new exclusive episode on Waylon Jennings. Okay, that's coming to you guys next week. Make sure you're all signed up for our All Access content, either on Apple Podcasts or on Patreon, to hear the Waylon episode along with other exclusive episodes and content over there like the exclusive Epps on Basquiat, Chris Cornell, Hunter S. Thompson, and more.

And over in the feed for the Singers Talk podcast, That's the show from my company Double Elvis in partnership with volume.com and which hosts Jason Thomas Gordon talks with some of the most iconic singers about their voices. We've got a brand new episode this week with none other than REM's Michael Stipe. So go check that out. That's The Singers Talk. Hey, discos, need a little more disgrace land in your life? Just a touch to get you through?

Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the After Party. Welcome to the disgrace land bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the after party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt.

On this bonus episode, we are talking about Justin Timberlake's recent arrest, the Boston Celtics recent title, and this week's new Disgracelland episode on OJC, Simpson. And of course, we've got your voicemails and texts and more. And as always, a whole lot of rosy. So discos, let's get into it. Okay, I'm recording this after-party bonus episode a day earlier than I usually do. Got a medical procedure coming up. Not the major. I'm going to be okay, but it's just messing up the schedule here a little bit. That means that I'm recording this two days before its release. It's the morning after the Boston Celtics, just won their 18th title. And I'd prefer today,

to sort of let my brain hang out in the bliss of yet another Boston sports team championship. 13 of them, by the way, in the last 24 years, suck at New York, suck at L.A. But I can't do that because Justin Timberlake just got arrested last night for a DWI. And that's all people in my algorithm and text threads want to talk about. Not all of it. There's some good Celtics talking there. Those of you who message me about the Celtics, thank you very much. Not that I had anything to do with the win.

but it's, you know, these things happen. Your team wins. A team from your hometown wins. And it's just like, I don't know, it's this bonding thing that happens, obviously. It's a very obvious thing. And you want to kind of enjoy it. But this arrest, this JT arrest, I'm annoyed by it. It's just now a DWI, that's serious, of course.

But in the grand scheme of musicians, athletes, and entertainers getting arrested for their actions behind the wheel of an automobile, this seems kind of basic. J.T. was arrested in Sag Harbor on Long Island. He refused the breathalyzer. He reportedly stunk of alcohol. He claimed he had one martini. He looks wasted in his mugshot. Now, I know full well, it's possible to be wasted from one gin martini, especially if I'm making them or my dad. But anyways, J.T., like I said, he looks wasted in the mugshot. But it's just a mugshot. New details are coming out about his erratic driving, however, before getting pulled over. But really, at this point, there's a lot of speculation. And of course, like I said, my feeds and DMs are filled with JT News today, and I'm getting a lot of questions about what it means. It's obvious why rock star entertainer gets pop. Disgraceful minds want to know.

I get it, and I can appreciate it. But, you know, the Celtics, 18 banners. It's kind of where my head's at today. Speaking of which, I should apologize to another J.T. Jason Tatum. No one was a bigger doubter of Jason Tatum than I was. no Boston fan anyways. I'm on record heavily criticizing Tatum for not showing up when it counts for being a modern day

2004, Alex Rodriguez, a pre-2006 Peyton Manning, not even a 2011 LeBron James, basically a guy who in my estimation turtled when the going got tough. When the real champions show up and gritted out and put their teams on their backs and dig in and got out tough wins when it matters most, I had yet to see Jason Tatum do that. In fact, I'd seen him do the opposite. it. Okay, my annoyance was so strong with Jason Tatum's unrealized potential that I was briefly driven into the arms, as many of you know. I was briefly driven into the arms of Jimmy Butler and for half a minute thought that I was going to become a Miami Heat fan. Up until this last NBA

finals game, okay? Tatum, up to this point, was living up to my depiction of him. All right, don't talk to me about his overall playoff stats. Brown was the one who led the team, Jalen Brown, in games one, two and three, Tatum didn't play well. In game four, I understood why the rest of the team fell short, but I felt like given Tatum struggles in the first three games, he as a real champion should have put the team on his back for game four and executed the sweep. And I was fully expecting Tatum to turtle again in game five. But the dude showed up man size and put the final dagger into Dallas, and I was wrong, okay?

I was wrong. but I'm not wrong about Justin Timberlake. This is a boring story. People are going to freak out because JT. is a huge name, and then no one's going to remember this in the next 48 hours, which I suppose isn't a bad thing. But for some perspective, let's quickly look to history for just a second here in the present,

because that's kind of what we do. Let's look to the past to understand the present. All right? In 1984, Vince Neal from Motley, crew got wasted and went for a ride with his buddy razzle from Hanoi Rocks. Vince Neil crashed his car and killed his friend. And Vince got off with a fine and a manslaughter charge. In 2015, Shug Night is currently in jail for running over two people in 2015 in his car and killing one of them. In 1963, former First Lady Laura Bush long before she was first lady, broadsided a car

when she ran a stop sign and killed the 17-year-old driver of the other car. In 1970, Keith Moon, ran over and killed his chauffeur while trying to escape a violent gang of menacing skinheads. You can check out our episode on The Who for more in that story. Also, I forgot to mention it, but we have an episode on Motley Crew. You can hear all about the death of Razzle in Vince Nail's car and a bunch of other stuff. All right, back to this subject, though. In a couple weeks, I'm going to be in Martha's Vineyard again. I'm going to make my annual pilgrimage to Chapiquitic into Dyke Bridge.

That's the bridge. Senator Ted Kennedy drove his car off of and into the drink in 1969, where he fled, leaving Mary Jo Cappuccane to drown. And of course, Caitlin Jenner in 2015 was involved in a rear-end collision that pushed the car in front of her into oncoming traffic

killing a 69-year-old woman. A couple of months ago, when the son, I'm sorry I'm laughing, but you're going to understand why in a second. And a couple of months ago, when the subject of this week's disgraceland episode, OJ Simpson, died, Caitlin Jenner took to X to tweet,

hashtag O.J. Simpson, good riddance, to which one quick-witted troll replied, didn't you kill someone to? So until Justin Timberlake kills someone or puts up a triple double against the Mavs, I don't want to hear about him anymore. What I do want to hear about is which charity benefiting victims of drunk driving you'd like me to make a donation to, and whether or not you have a loved one's name you'd like me to make the donation in honor of. Let's derive some light and some good grace from all of this darkness and disgrace that we are trafficking in here in disgrace land every week. Call me or text me with your charitable organization of choice. 617-90666-6638 voicemail and text. And if you don't have any suggestions, but you want to have some fun this week,

call me or text me and let me know which disgraced athletes you're teaming up with for your fantasy charity golf tournament. You can pick three disgraced athletes, okay? These are for your foursum. Who's it going to be? You, OJ Simpson, Scotty Sheffler, not really a disgrace, but he'd be great on anyone's team. Of course, Aaron Hernandez, Roger Clemens, Pete Rose, I like to golf with Roger Clemens, Pete Rose, Lawrence Taylor, Mike Tyson. I've been around Mike Tyson before. I don't want to be anywhere around Mike Tyson anymore. Give me these three disgraced athletes that you're hitting the links with in our fantasy charity golf tournament.

The worst they do, keep in mind, the worst they do, the more they have to donate to the victims of their heinous. Crime, 617-906-66-38 voicemail and text. I'll be back in a flash. All right, we are back and I want to talk about Badlands. Badlands was, of course, the spin-off show to Disgraceland that we launched a few years ago. For those of you have listened to both shows, thank you. But you've probably noticed recently that the Badlands feed has looked a little different. Here's the deal.

There were two things to play. One was that it didn't make sense anymore to limit Disgraceland to just music. Music will always be my bread and butter. It'll be the bread and butter of our team. I work with a bunch of musicians. All right? That's basically who makes up double Elvis. We're a bunch of fans of music.

However, it just became too much to be running these two shows, running these two feeds, where the subject matter was actually very similar. The production was very similar. The presentation was very similar. And my interest, frankly, they encompass not just like I mentioned, before, not just music, not just Hollywood, not just sports, all of it. And a disgrace is a disgrace is a disgrace. So disgrace land. From now on, all of these subjects will be available in the disgrace land feed. For those who are wondering where all the Badlands episodes have gone,

we're going to continue to roll these out as remastered episodes of disgrace land. These are being slightly reproduced, slightly rewritten, sometimes significantly actually, actually Actually, I didn't write a lot of those Badlands episodes, and I'm injecting myself into some of the archive episodes here in my point of view a little bit more strongly, making them more disgrace land so that they will feel fresh. They will feel like disgrace land episodes, which they are, okay? Like this week's episode on O.J. Simpson, and the recent episodes on Marilyn Monroe and Heath Ledger. The simple fact of the matter is, we have a lot of new listeners coming in. We're still growing despite being in this game now. for five years. And a lot of people have no idea of our archive in disgrace land. Never mind in Badlands. So we're rolling it all into one. Like I said, it's just more manageable. For those

of you who are new to this disgrace land feed, who are only Badlands listeners, welcome. We have a rich, lush archive for you to get into here. Over 150 episodes. I hope you dig in. I hope you stick with us. We have a lot in store for you guys coming up in the future as well. episodes on Bobby Brown, the Talking Heads, Alfred Hitchcock, Donnie Hathway, Al Pacino, Metallica. I'm about to finish this episode. I'm writing it this week on Lana Del Rey, Blink 182, Stoked. So lots of stuff. Badlands is disgrace land.

It's all happening here in this feed. Make sure you are following along. Make sure you are subscribed because this is where you're going to get all of our immersive storytelling from the dark side of entertainment. All right. Let's talk sources for this week's episode on O.J. Simpson. First of all, the O.J. story, the murder of his ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, along with her friend, Ron Goldman, the subsequent trial and acquittal of O.J. Simpson for those murders.

It is one of the biggest and most well-known stories of our lifetime, or my lifetime, I should say. Also, one of the most documented. It was headline news for years, quite literally. And to that end, we had great source material to pull from to make this episode. Now, I did not want to make a, This is the story of what happened to O.J. Simpson when he got arrested and charged with murder and went to trial. That's been done so many times. And frankly, it's been done in incredible ways. One of the greatest documentaries that I've ever seen is on this subject. It's from the 30 for 30 series called O.J. Simpson made in America. If you haven't seen it, I highly recommend it. Again, this is not the story we told, but we did, of course, use this documentary for research. We also use the scripted FX series, The People versus O.J. Simpson, American crime story, which I thought was fantastic. What we wanted to do is tell you this O.J. Simpson's story from a fresh angle. So, as you know, if you've listened to the episode already, to do this, we decided to frame the narrative around the brazen 2007 heist that O.J. Simpson orchestrated and took part in. This is obviously after the murders. But this fascinated us because, you know, it's kind of O.J. Simpson. caught up in his own version of a Cohen Brothers movie with these bumbling idiots for a crime crew

who they're storming this hotel room in Las Vegas, trying to steal sports memorabilia from these kind of low-rent memorabilia dealers. It's just, it's so seedy and so Las Vegas. It's just, it's wild in its own way. And it felt like a really great lens to use to look back at the double murder of Nicole Brownson and Ron Goldman, and OJ's trial and all that. We just wanted to do it differently. Like I said, when I heard about this story, it struck me as a Cohen Brothers type of thing

because of the idiocy involved and, of course, the violence and the grime and the crime and the darkness. So check it out if you have not already. 617-906-66-3638. I asked some questions earlier, a pretty serious one, about the charitable or organization that you would like me to donate to, um, uh,

to benefit victims of drunk driving. 61790666. 638. I'm interested to hear, uh, who you're recommending. I asked, I asked sort of a cheeky question about which disgraced athletes like OJ Simpson.

You would want to have part of your, uh, fantasy celebrity golf for some, but I want to watch some of the, uh, the older listeners in the audience, a question here. I want to know where you,

were, because this is our, honestly, this is before 9-11, the OJ. White Bronco chase was our JFK assassination. So I want to know where you guys were when Bob Costas interviewed the telecast for the NBA finals and brought us in live to O.J. Simpson and the back of Al Cowling's white Bronco rolling down the highway out in Los Angeles with a stream of cruisers and helicopters chasing him. I want to know where you were during the O.J. Simpson, White Bronco Chase and what you were doing. I'll tell you where I was. I was at the White Eagle in Worcester, Massachusetts, drinking beers at the bar with my buddies, getting ready to go across the street to Sir Morgan's Cove and play a show with Castoran Hike. That's where I was, 617-90666-36-3-8.

Where were you during OJ. Simpson's infamous white Bronco chase? Give me a call, voicemail, text, let me know. like Ednaar in the 406. Hey Jake, this is Ednor, Colin from the 406. Responding to your question about which Rosworth he leans towards... Yeah, man, Brian Bosworth, of course, except for that little bit with Bo Jackson, steamrolling him on Monday night football.

Not really a rock star moment, but I hear you. I get you. 302 writes in, hey, happy Father's Day, Jake. You got a 302. Thank you. And, yeah, happy belated Father's Day to all the dads out there. in disco land.

909 writes, and Jake, you magnificent bastard, golfer John Daly, is the greatest example of an athlete that has all the feral, narcissistic animal traits of a rock star.

He smokes and drinks during tournaments. He was in a love triangle with his caddy. He played a round shirtless and without shoes. He threw punches in the World Series of golf

back in the 90s. He got hauled off to jail after he passed out at a Hooters restaurant. And he's actually released a couple of albums. He's a train wreck worthy of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Rockarola, Scott from the 909.

Scott, bringing that heat. I appreciate you. And I appreciate the John Daily suggestion. We got more, guys, 617-90666-6-6-3-8. More coming up in the next block for our all-access members. I'm going to take a quick break back in a flash. All right, we are back. And as I promised at the top of the show,

I want to dig a little deeper into some of the things that we weren't able to get into in our full episode on OJ Simpson. but we're going to do this the same way we do this every week, which is in the all-access portion of the episode, which means that if you want to join me and some of your fellow discos and get even more of the after-party experience here, you need to become an all-access member.

Luckily, the process is quick and painless. Just go to disgracelandpod.com slash membership to sign up. It's just five bucks a month and even cheaper if you purchase an annual membership. Immediately you'll be able to access exclusive weekly bonus content like the extended version of this year after-party. Plus, you're going to be able to get to get a month. get an exclusive scripted episode every month, like next week's episode on Wayland Jennings.

Plus, we've got previous exclusive episodes that we've released that are available only to all access members on Hunter S. Thompson, Lane Staley of Alice and Chains, Chris Cornell, Basquia, and more. And you can listen to it all every single episode, all of it, all of the disgrace land, the whole archive, everything absolutely ad-free. You can sign up either using Apple Podcasts or Patreon. And if you choose Patreon, you're going to get immediate access to our members-only chat, which is always on, which includes not just to your fellow discos, but me as well.

You don't want to miss this, all right? Disgracelandpod.com slash membership. Get in here with us. All right, back in a flash. All right, let's recap, shall we? Number one, there is more after-party to listen to right now. All you got to do is go to disgracelampod.com slash membership and sign up to become an all-access member,

but that ain't your bag, then number two. Right now on your feed, this week's episode on OJ Simpson. Number three, coming tomorrow, a rewind episode on Van Morrison. Number four, next week in the disgrace land feed, a brand new episode on Bobby Brown. Number five, also next week, a brand new exclusive All-access episode on Wayland Jennings. Number six, my number is 617-9066636338. Call me on the telephone or text me number seven.

Remember, no one cares about these stories more than you do, and well, that's a disgrace. And now my moment of bliss in honor of this week's episode on O.J. Simpson, me reading the Billboard Hot 100 from the week of September. 8th, 2007, the week that the juice carried out that Brazen Sports memorabilia heist in Las Vegas. Number one. Big Girls Don't Cry. Fergie. Last week. Two. Peak position. One. Weeks on chart. 19. Number two. Crank that. Soldier boy. Last week. Six. Peak position. Two. Weeks on chart. Number three, Stronger, Condier West. Last week, five.

Peak position, three, weeks on chart, five. Number four, The Way I Are, Timbaland, featuring Carrie Hillston. Last week, three, six, peak position, peak position, week, weeks on share, 13, 22, number five, number one. Beautiful good. Talking and start mixing.