DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode: Killer Concert Films

Episode Date: November 27, 2025

Why The Last Waltz is the greatest concert film of all time plus, in the exclusive section of this bonus episode, a long list of other favorites and some criminally overlooked live gems with Jake and ...Zeth. You can become an All Access member and hear this and more exclusive content, along with ad-free listening of all Disgraceland episodes, by going to disgracelandpod.com and signing up via Patreon or Apple Podcasts. If you're an All Access member and you're having trouble accessing the ad-free feed or other subscriber benefits, please see the following links for help: Apple Podcasts Subscription Help Patreon Subscription Help For more great episodes of Disgraceland, check out our extensive archive, including stories like these: Episode 178 - Bob Dylan Episode 5 - Van Morrison Episode 92 - Derek and the Dominos To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:08 Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the After Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the after party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of disgrace land to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. Our mission to uncover the truth, to confront the myth, to reclaim the story.
Starting point is 00:02:45 On this bonus episode, we are discussing killer concert films in The Last Waltz. We're winding back with Merle Haggard Part 1 and previewing next week's episode, our Merle Haggard Part 2 story. And then we get into your emails, comments, DMs, and as always, a whole lot of rosy. This is the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know that the best history is the history that gets buried. Disgraceland is where I tell the stories they didn't want told, the kind you'll end up telling someone else. All right, Discos, let's get into it. Happy Thanksgiving, Discos, are you watching the last waltz this evening after your meal before your leftovers?
Starting point is 00:03:37 When you do it, what's your ritual? I'm watching it. It's been a tradition of mine for at least a decade, and each year it never fails. I am leveled by how great the performances are in this concert film. As concert films go, you know where I stand. This is my favorite. I think it's because the band who, in this case are also the house band, are at the peak of their powers musically. That's one reason.
Starting point is 00:04:03 In most concerts, with this kind of variety, a bunch of different artists performing, you know, I think your average rock and roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony, that sort of thing. You don't get this type of consistency in the performance. And, well, in concert films that are solely focused on one artist, you don't get the variety. But here, you kind of get everything because of the band at the core, the spine of everything, both musically and from a storytelling perspective. And it's variety, you know, isn't variety what Thanksgiving is all about? So thematically, makes sense as well. Here's what I mean. Actually, you know, variety is not what Thanksgiving is all about. Gratitude is what Thanksgiving is all about, of course, but variety is sort of what Thanksgiving
Starting point is 00:04:49 dinner is about anyways. All those sides. You get your mashed potatoes, your stuffing, the squash, the broccoli, Jennifer, the Spenacopoeita, the cranberry sauce, the stuff in the can. Of course, so much variety. And, you know, that's what the last Waltz delivers. You get your mashed potatoes with Ronnie Hawkins and your stuffing with Dr. John, your squash with Van Morrison, your broccoli, Jennifer with Joni Mitchell, your Spenacopado with Bob Dylan, and your cranberry sauce in a can with Neil Diamond.
Starting point is 00:05:15 What am I talking about? I have no idea. Who cares? It's Thanksgiving, all right? My favorite performance from the last waltz, aside from every moment Leve-on Helm is singing into the microphone and holding it down on the kit is the Muddy Waters performance. It is just incredible.
Starting point is 00:05:32 It's a full-grown man right there. And speaking of Thanksgiving and gratitude, you can see the gratitude on Robbie Robertson's face during Manish Boy with Muddy Waters up there on stage. And I believe you can actually hear it in the music. Part of what makes The Last Waltz so satisfying to watch each year, it's not just the music, it's the story, the myth. The Last Waltz is so much more than a concert, so much more than a random show on an artist's tour, so much more than, you know, something that just happened when the cameras and mics were set up in just the right way, or in so much more than a concert contrived by the artist to sell records. The last waltz is pure myth. You're watching the band
Starting point is 00:06:18 play, and they are so good. And throughout the entire movie, you're asking yourself, why in God's name are they breaking up? Why is it? Why is it? Is this their last show? That tension undergirds the entire concert. It's incredible counterpoint storytelling delivered by the most rock and roll of film directors, master storyteller Martin Scorsese. No other film has this type of subtext. Not to my eyes anyways.
Starting point is 00:06:50 I almost said not to my ears. And the other thing that the last waltz has that most other concert films don't have is stakes. You can see it in Robbie's eyes in the interview sections of the film. He's a dead man. He's dying. The road is killing him. It's either the road or all that cocaine that he's ripping through at night with Scorsese. But Robbie knows that if he doesn't get out the road, the road is going to kill him.
Starting point is 00:07:19 And the other guys in the band, they don't necessarily agree despite what they're saying or how they're acting or how they're being directed. They're just going along for the ride following Robbie, and that tension only adds to the drum. Of course, a lot of this isn't evident on First Watch. Upon First Watch, you're just captivated by the music, blown away by the personalities in the band. You're like, wait, why didn't anyone tell me Rick Danco? This is as cool as Robert De Niro and Mean Streets.
Starting point is 00:07:51 And what the fuck is, who is Richard May? Wow, what's out? This guy's got the sweetest soul ever. And Garth Hudson is the oldest looking. young dude I've ever seen in my life. And, you know, has anyone in the history of rock and roll ever had more feel than leave on helm? It's just incredible.
Starting point is 00:08:08 And I do, you know, I don't know if it's, it was subliminally transferred to me as a young person watching this film. But I like to think that I felt that gratitude, just the gratitude to be able to watch this movie, to watch this band, to, to, to, to, to, to. feel like I had been let in on a secret gratitude. It's the undercurrent of the last waltz the concert performed on Thanksgiving Eve, 1977. And like I said, you can see it and you can hear it in the performance. The band understands their place in rock and roll and pop music history when they're making this incredible document. They are right up there with the giants of the day. They're up
Starting point is 00:08:55 there on stage with living icons like their friend Bob Dylan. and Eric Clapton, and they're standing tall, shoulder to shoulder with the giants and not for a second to the sense that anything is being taken for granted. We should all be so lucky to find some sense of that in our vocation, in our work, in our art, in our day-to-day life. It's so important. And it's up there for everybody to see on the screen in this movie that I know a bunch of you are going to be watching tonight that I'm watching tonight. It's a powerful lesson. One again, that we should all remember. It's worth pointing out at this point that, you know, I'm grateful for a lot of things in my life, grateful especially for you guys out there listening
Starting point is 00:09:42 and engaging with me and Zeff and Matt and everyone else at double all of us every week. We're making this content for you guys. Appreciate you so much. I hope you're having an awesome Thanksgiving with your family. I hope you're getting some time to watch the last wall. It's one of the greatest, if not the greatest concert film of all time. Zeth and I will be going through a pretty substantial list of great concert films, our favorites, some critics' favorites, and some overlooked gems in the exclusive section of this after party. Head to disgracelandpod.com to sign up for all access. You can catch this conversation if you're not signed up already. Go do so. I'll be back after this short break. We're going to hear from you guys.
Starting point is 00:10:43 There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that, trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends... Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist.
Starting point is 00:11:12 I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When like young people come up to me and they want to be an act or whatever. My first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? Rather be disappointed in.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Do that. Dennis Leary. I wake up and I'm hitting him in the head with a water bomb. And Bruce Jenner is on the aisle in a karate stance like he's about to attack me. Making karate noises. And his entire the Kardashians family over there, everybody's going. And the airman. March is trying to grab my arms and screaming.
Starting point is 00:12:20 And I immediately know that I've been at sleepwalk. David O'Yellowo. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Guy Branham. So anyway, Nicole Kidman broke up with Keith Thurban. Being half of a country couple was always a hat she was going to wear, not like a life she was going to lead.
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Starting point is 00:14:15 I'm going to dig into some more emails, more than I normally do here. I want to give you guys a chance to be heard here. This one comes from Rick Martinez. Hey there. Love the podcast. I would say it's storytelling at its best. Thank you, Rick. But these stories are real.
Starting point is 00:14:28 So enthralling and you can't wait for the next sentence. I've always thought the story of Jacco Pistorius would be great with your format. Keep up the awesome work. You're absolutely right, Rick. We've had Jocko on the board for a while. And I think it might be on the schedule for next year. This is one of those stories that I know just a little about. I want to know more.
Starting point is 00:14:49 And I'm very intrigued and I'm very excited to learn more about Jocko in this story. So Rick, we're going to have that for you at some point. Appreciate you writing it. All right, let's go to this email from Pip. Pip writes, and Hey, Jake, Apex Twin, and Outside with the Stars for Music When I'm High. Fucking excellent questions. Looking forward to the answers. Pip says, I didn't use my phone number.
Starting point is 00:15:14 I'm in Australia. There we go. Pip also says, I'm very lazy. But then, you know, Pip, you say you're lazy, but then you sent the second email as well. So you said, you know, one more song when I'm stoned at the bottom of everything by bright eyes. I don't know that I know that song. And I don't know much about Apex Twin as well. So appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Kind of doing a grab bag here, guys. I'm not staying on topic. I'm just going to blast through your emails. April Hershey writes in how music heals and triggers. Jake, I wanted to respond to your prompt from this past week regarding how music is therapeutic, but may also be a trigger. My story is about both being true to start. I need to introduce my late husband, Chris.
Starting point is 00:15:54 He passed away at age 49 in 2024. Chris loved everything that reminded him of his childhood and youth, especially music. His favorites were punk, New Wave, and 80s rock. Chris's prize possession was his 2015 Jeep Wrangler where his serious XM channels were all of the above. One of our favorite things to do together was to throw our beloved dog, Charlotte, in the back of the Jeep, roll down the windows and take off for parks, breweries, hikes, while listening to our favorite tunes. After his death, I found that any time I took the Jeep out and that music would come on, I would sob.
Starting point is 00:16:27 body-racking sobs whilst trying to drive. This was definitely one of those triggers that they tell you about in grief. And I could choose to avoid it by not driving the Jeep and turning on the radio, or I could try to find joy in it. It's been almost two years since he passed, and I can now report that I'm not sobbing every time I drive the Jeep and jawbreaker or pet shop boys come on. But it still happens.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Driving the Jeep and listening to our favorite music was and is fun and allows me to feel closer to him. but it also makes me sad that he's in here with Charlotte and I as we hit the road to Asheville for the weekend. I'm grateful that I have so many of his favorites, his constant reminders and the happy memories those songs evoke. But grief is a cruel emotion that can turn great music into sadness and tears sincerely April. April, I'm so sorry for your loss. This email is heavy, and I'm glad you sent it into us, and I can completely relate. And, you know, the only they say it's cliche, but the only one, they say it's a cliche, but the only
Starting point is 00:17:25 only way to get through grief is to go right through it. And it's absolutely true. You can't avoid it. And I think your method here, your process, whatever you want to call it, is the right one. It's one that I've certainly used in my past in dealing with grief. And I have absolutely used music myself, particularly writing about music as a way to kind of find my way through these really, really complex feelings. April, appreciate your message. I hope that You and Charlotte are doing well. Right back, let us know what you're listening to these days. Hope you're having a good Thanksgiving, April.
Starting point is 00:18:03 All right, let's keep going here, do a couple more while I got you guys paying attention. Tiffany Scherer writes in, hey, I've been listening to the podcast for two to three years now, and I love everything about it. I've learned so much about popular music and new things about new musicians that were all so new to me. I love the concept. I love the way. Okay, okay, you love it. I love it.
Starting point is 00:18:20 I love that you love it. Thank you. Appreciate it. you've got some cool recommendations here for shows future episodes Tiffany so i just want to read these here appreciate the praise not trying to be uh not trying to not be grateful just you know appreciate it okay um let's see here number one your first recommendation here tiffany Wendy Williams you say i know she's not directly musician but i think her story in association with the music industry qualify her i agree i think you're right and i think the story is uh pretty
Starting point is 00:18:52 nuts and Wendy's super interesting and I think that this is something we might get into. Your next wreck here is a great one. Bobby Womack. You go on to say I knew a little bit about the drama between him and Sam Cook. The story was just brought back to my attention and my jaw literally hit the floor at the scandal of his relationship with Sam Cook's wife and daughter, him wearing San Cook's suit to the wedding with his former mentor's wife. I know it's fucked up. when I read this, when I was doing the Sam Cooke research, which I think Sam Cooke was episode three of disgrace land. And man, that was a tough episode to find my way through in the early days.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Because for many reasons, there's the, you know, who killed Sam Cuck thing. And there are all these conspiracy theories. And I don't believe in any of them. And most people do. That's the problem. I believe that Sam Cook behaved in a really horrible way. And, you know, a woman defended herself, and he was shot and killed. And I know that's not a sexy answer, but that's my conclusion after the research.
Starting point is 00:19:58 The other big thing in the research that I came upon, though, was this Bobby Womack story, which was little known and is really tough to tell as well because people love Bobby Womack. It just looks so bad. The optics are so, so, so, so bad. And I do think there's a Bobby Womack story there. I don't know that it could be entirely about the Sam Cook piece because how do you do that without painting him as a complete and total fucking monster. I don't know. I'm sure there's some interesting stuff from Bobby Womack's early days coming up and the circuit he was playing on and all that that gets kind of crimy and grimy that'll lead us into a Sam Cooke story.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Or maybe, you know, I've been doing these, we've been doing more video production here sort of in the background. and I'm going to do a new version, video version of the Sam Cooke's story. Maybe I'll find a way to weave Bobby Womack into that a little more fully. Appreciate you, Tiffany. Thanks for writing in. Lee Leonard writes it. Hey, question of the week. Jake, it's Lee in the 412.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Dude, what happened with your phone number? I got a weird Google voice message. Anyway, my number one rock record, my Desert Island disc has to be. Songs for the Death by Queens of the Stone Age. Number two would be paranoid by Sabbath, but Songs for the Deaf has everything. It's a masterpiece in my opinion. Thanks to my friend and Rockarola. Songs for the Deaf is fantastic.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Paranoid by Sabbath, though. I actually go Black Sabbath, Black Sabbath. Just that intro. I have a distinct memory of being high out of my mind in Detroit. And it was storming out. We were driving. And we're smoking a lot of hash. And that song was on.
Starting point is 00:21:41 A little moody kind of like rain in the beginning. Oh, it's just awesome. The thunder was perfect. That was fun. Mike Viola, what's up? Figgs. Figs tour, 2003. Long time ago.
Starting point is 00:21:53 Another life. All right, it's a holiday weekend. So I'm just going to keep rocking here. I want to read this. This is from Brian Stone on Patreon writes and, hey, finally signed up for the All Access Past during the Dr. John episode. This is Brian writing in the Patreon chat.
Starting point is 00:22:09 And Brian goes on to say, I wanted to hear the exclusive mini. episode. I about fell over when I heard Brian Stone was a piece of shit manager who did Dr. John wrong. To be clear, I am not that Brian Stone. However, it may explain the cold welcome I received while working at Dr. John show at a club in Portland, Maine about 12 years ago, maybe a bit more. I was the monitor mixer and had just finished micing up the baby grand and introduced myself to Dr. John when he came out for sound check. I have my name and he went blank. And now it all clicks. He must have wanted to kill me on my name alone. It's definitely at the wrong time,
Starting point is 00:22:45 but in the right place. That's from our new All-Axaccess member, Brian Stone. Brian, way to introduce yourself in the chat, man. Okay, Mike Lamina writes in, this is on Disgraceland at Disgraceland Pod. Hey, I can't figure out from your website how to not get commercials. I bought a year's subscription. Thanks. Mike. Mike, well, I don't know, but here's what we're going to do. Matt Bowden, who handles sort of everything behind the scenes here at the Elvis, is going to chime in in about four seconds. And he's going to give you the best explanation he can on how to make sure that your All-Axed membership is delivering ad-free episodes.
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Starting point is 00:25:26 Andrew Carpenter writes in, Hey, man, I love the show. I was thinking an episode of Elliott Smith would be interesting. Elliot was a musical genius and the tragic way he died was awful. His music is important. and the swirl of controversy surrounding his untimely death exists. Thank you. Well, Andrew, you know, we talked about this a couple weeks ago
Starting point is 00:25:43 in the exclusive section of the after-party. Zeth and I, we did a pretty deep dive. And, well, we kind of scratched the surface in our conversation in the after-party and we decided we wanted to tell this story. Okay. Then I went into the research as though I was going to write this story.
Starting point is 00:25:59 And this seldom happens to me, man. I cannot get to the story. the truth of this. I don't know what the truth is and I don't know how to tell the story. And it's really frustrating because there's a lot of people out there who are friends with Elliot Smith and, you know, they're relatively my age, a little bit older. And you want to be respectful to his memory, to his legacy. It just feels too raw. It feels too soon and it feels too murky. And I just cannot get to the bottom of it. And after researching it for a week, I also felt completely gross and disgusting and depressed. And I just decided I called Zeth and I was
Starting point is 00:26:45 like, dude, I don't think I want to do this. I just don't think I want to do it. Not right now, Andrew, perhaps another time in the future for Mr. Elliott Smith. All right, discos, you know how to hit me up. 617-906-6638 voicemail and text at Disgracelam Pod. on the social's disgrace landpot at gmail.com if you want to email me next up coming up tomorrow in the rewind slot is our we're moving in right into christmas right into the christmas season after thanksgiving with our merle haggard episode and then next week the next new full episode that we're doing is part two of our merle haggard story which is fucking bananas here's the title surviving christmas cosmic american aliens and cocaine clarity um merle got weird
Starting point is 00:27:31 The older he got, he got weird in the best possible way. And you're going to hear all about it. And when you're listening, you know, Merle has a voice that to me is just, it just stops me in my tracks. And it grabs me by the shoulders. And it goes, look, dude, you're about to hear something incredible. So just, you know, focus on this right now. That's how powerful that dude's voices. He might be my, I don't know, I can't decide.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Is it, is it Merle or is it George Jones? sing in a way that is, it's like listening to Jimmy Hendricks or Robert Johnson play guitar. You're like, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't necessarily, like when Jimmy Hendrix is playing blues, it's so deceptively simple. I don't understand how he's doing it. I really don't. Anyhow, I want you to be listening to this Merle Haggard Part 2 episode and just let me know, of all the great country singers Johnny Cash Merle Haggard
Starting point is 00:28:35 George Jones take your pick Morgan Wallen George Strait I'm trying to think another modern one Chris Stapleton I guess
Starting point is 00:28:43 who has the voice that just owns you when you hear it who is your favorite country singer because country singing is a distinct thing
Starting point is 00:28:54 it is different from clearly different from rock and roll singing it's so cool it's so badass. It's so adult. I just love it. And, you know, I'm going to try and think through my my favorite here. Is it Merle? Is it George? I'm going to listen to a bunch over the weekend.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Try to make a decision. And you let me know when you're listening to the Merle Haggard Part 2 episode, our new episode on Merle Haggard, who your favorite country singer is. Call me 617-9066638. Leave a voicemail. Send me a text. Hit me at Disgraceland Pod on the socials. Disgracelesslod at gmail.com. I'll be back right after this. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either.
Starting point is 00:29:53 We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends... Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands.
Starting point is 00:30:17 I said, oh, hell no. I vowed I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler,
Starting point is 00:30:41 we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When, like, young people come off. to me and they want to be an actor or whatever. My first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? Rather be disappointed in. Do that. Dennis Leary. I wake up and I'm hitting him in the head with a water bomb.
Starting point is 00:31:02 And Bruce Jenner is on the aisle in a karate stance like he's about to attack me. Like making karate noises. And his entire the Kardashian family over there, everybody's going, and the air marshal is trying to grab my arms and screaming. I immediately know that I've been at sleepwalk. David O'Yellow. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Guy Branham.
Starting point is 00:31:31 So anyway, Nicole Kimman broke up with Keith Thurban. Being half of a country couple was always a hat she was going to wear, not like a life she was going to lead. Oh, interesting. I like that. Did you practice that on your way over? Gaten Moderato from Stranger Things. Tana Monsu. Camilla Marone, Carrie Kenny Silver, and more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Starting point is 00:33:09 All right, let's do some quick recommendations here. Started this last week, this whole one book, one record, one documentary. And we talked a lot about Scorsese last week. We're going to continue doing that as we closed the book, our disgrace land book on Scorsese and the band this week. Last week, I recommended Made Men. This is the book on the Making of Goodfellas. This week I'm recommending actually two more Scorsese books.
Starting point is 00:33:31 I only wanted to recommend this one here, which is the main one. It's called A Personal Journey with Martin Scorsese through American movies by Martin Scorsese and Michael Henry Wilson. And this book is fantastic. It's Scorsese taking you through the history of film, you know, exactly like it says. And it's based on, I guess, a documentary that came out that I never seen. and I can't really find. And it's fantastic because it's Scorsese giving you his personal view on,
Starting point is 00:34:01 on sort of all the great genres of filmmaking from the beginning of filmmaking, from the silent era, all the way through the huge, you know, even like, you know, musicals and big studio films, like, you know, big, uh, westerns and the Warner Brothers gangster movies, just fantastic stuff. and it goes pretty deep. It talks about his favorite directors as well. It's a really cool way to bone up on your film history if you're interested in that sort of thing.
Starting point is 00:34:34 And I can't recommend it highly enough. Again, a personal journey with Martin Scorsese through American movies. Second book, I know I'm always supposed to do one, but if you watched Mr. Scorsese on Apple Podcasts and you were like, I need more than this. is the book you need. Scorsese on Scorsese. It's a book of interviews that Scorsese did. And it goes up and until, I think, the early 90s. Yeah, up and until Goodfellas.
Starting point is 00:35:02 And it's really an expansion. You can tell that this book is the spine of that Scorsese dock that just came out on Apple. So if you want a little bit more, you'll get a little bit more with Scorsese on Scorsese. So that's, those are the books I'm recommending the record You know, no one talks about before the flood, Bob Dylan and the band from 1974, a live album. No one talks about this album enough. And it's just, it's scorching. These guys are, they're on fire. And I love this album.
Starting point is 00:35:33 It's kind of an overlooked, overlooked piece from Dylan's catalog. And the band is really pushing Bob pretty damn hard on this record. It's fantastic. Again, before the flood, Bob Dylan in the band, 1974. That's my one record recommendation, my one documentary recommendation, American. boy Martin Scorsese in 1978 documentary on his buddy Stephen Prince who plays easy Andy in taxi driver, the gun dealer. And Stephen Prince has this incredible history in New York arts and culture.
Starting point is 00:36:05 And he's a heroin addict. He tells some amazing stories. Just, you know, he's, I believe he's in Scorsese's Hollywood apartment in the late 70s. And this is where that wild scene from Pulp Fiction comes. where when umma thurman overdoses and john travolta has to uh inject her through the sternum with that uh hyperdermic needle in the adrenaline it actually comes from a story that stephen prince that happened to stephen prince and it's in this documentary called american boy by martin scorzzi from nineteen seventy eight so there you have it one book one record one doc those are my recommendations
Starting point is 00:36:42 check those out if you haven't already if you got any wrecks for me hit me up six one seven nine 06-6638. Real quick, speaking of films, speaking of music, speaking to Scorsese, Zeth and I have a new video podcast called This Film Should Be Played Loud that is available exclusively to our All Access members. It's going to be released on December 10th. And you're going to love it. It's my two favorite things. It's my peanut butter and my chocolate. It is the convergence of music and film. It's a video podcast about great movies and the great music that makes them choice. Okay, the first, every episode's going to be on a different movie. First one we're doing is on Goodfellas. That's a good way to come out of the gates. And again, that's coming on December 10th.
Starting point is 00:37:34 And to get that podcast every single month, you're going to have to become an all-access member. Go to disgracellandpot.com to sign up. All right, Matt, give me the buzzer beater. Because right now, This is the 60 seconds sports rant in under 30 seconds, and it is once again sponsored by Five Hour Energy's new Pumpkin Spice flavor, your favorite fall drink and an energy shot. You can pick up a Pumpkin Spice, five-hour energy shot available online at five-hourenergy.com or Amazon. Now, listen, I come from a family of gamblers on my mother's side.
Starting point is 00:38:06 The big thing we bet on is football, professional football. We've been doing this literally for as long as I can remember. It started out with football cards, not the kind you buy in the package with bubble gum, but the kind you get from a bookie, has all the games on it, the point spreads. You get to pick six. You get to win every single one of them
Starting point is 00:38:21 that win a big pile of money. Now, listen, also, not just the football cards, okay? Calling in bets to the local bookie, which I used to do is a 10-year-old with my stepfather. I had my own code and everything. Hey, this is R-162. Give me the pass for the points. Dallas minus three, Cleveland, plus two.
Starting point is 00:38:35 I never knew why my stepfather had me calling the bets. I think it got passed off as being cute, but, you know, I think what was really going on was me, my stepdad needed another voice to lay money on separate teams. to cover losses on his other bets. I don't know. I didn't ask. I'm not sure he tell me the truth. Anyhow. Now, nowadays, we bet with just the football cards. And no, it's not through an app. And yes, it's, you know, done in an old school kind of way. If you know what I'm saying. True to our family's form, my seven-year-old plays the cards on Sunday, too. Willie the Greek, that's what they've been
Starting point is 00:39:05 calling him. He's come closer to winning the pot on Sunday than I have. Anyway, I have an attitude toward gambling that is akin to, I guess, how the French think about kids drinking wine. Expose them young, destigmatize it, make it casual, and they will likely not abuse it. That's how it worked for me anyways with the gambling, not with the drinking. Anyway, my family, however, has officially taken it too far. My youngest sister is about to have a baby next month, and it's her first, and yes, there is a pool. We've got squares, top row for the days born, side row is for the minute of birth. It's insane. Winter gets 500 bucks, and my newborn nephew will get 500 as well. I swear to God, this is true. Is this too far? I feel like it's too far. I feel like it's too far. I feel like it's
Starting point is 00:39:46 like betting on the weather. Have we jumped some figurative shark with our gambling? I think we have. Do I really care though? No, I don't. Do I want to complain about it in the sports rant? Kind of. Are the Pat's going to win on Monday night against the Giants? You bet your ass they are. But I have to check with my seven-year-old to see if they're going to cover the spread. Matt, don't tell me how I did. I know it went too long, but I don't care. All right, that was the sports rant. Sponsored by Five-Hour Energy's new pumpkin spice flavor. These new pumpkin spice five-hour energy shots are fall in a bottle and they bring that classic pumpkin spice flavor that we all know and love. favorite fall drink and an energy shot, you can pick up a Pumpkin Spice 5Hour Energy shot, available online at 5hourenergy.com or Amazon. Now, with our band episode this week, we released our new mini episode for exclusive members. Entitled, Go Deeper, Dead Band Members in a Box and Bootleg Basement Tapes. Matt, give the people a little taste of what they're missing if they're not signed up for all access. Go ahead. The road was rough.
Starting point is 00:41:15 You never knew what you'd find out there. Five guys split between two station wagons, going from town to town, gig to gig, living hand to mouth. Sometimes the place was packed, the crowd was into it, and thus making it easier to endure. Another late night staring at that long white line while tearing ass through the darkness in one of those station wagons. Some nights, however, you played to just three people, including the bartender. And some nights you got stiff by the no bullshit having club owner who wasn't afraid to use a loaded pistol in his hand to help drive home the fact that you weren't getting paid. And there were the hangers on, the dealers, the dopers, the jealous husband who didn't like the way you looked at his wife. And for all of these reasons, a traveling band has to be tight.
Starting point is 00:42:04 If you're on the road, you have to have your band members' backs. and long ago back before resentment and jealousy and creative differences tore them apart, the band took that unspoken rule one step further. Robbie Robertson, Rick Danco, Richard Manuel, Garth Hudson, and Levon Helm had a pact. And the pact was this. If one of them died out there on the road, victim of too many pills or too much drink, maybe even one of those jealous husbands, then the other guys would put his dead body on ice,
Starting point is 00:42:43 stuff him back in the station wagon with the instruments, and haul his ass back to Woodstock, New York, where they were living, before the authorities caught on. By 1967, however, after nearly a decade of life on the road, the band were at long last taking a break, because their boss, Bob Dylan, was taking a break. And it turns out it wasn't their bodies and reputation, they had to worry about protecting anymore, their own music would soon need guarding.
Starting point is 00:43:12 And that's where all the trouble started. Let me explain. All right, like I said, that is a clip from our new mini-episode. Mini-Epsosomes come out. We're going to do a three or four of these a month, a little way to go deeper into the subject that we've been covering that week. And again, you can only get it through all access. You get it become an all-access. Remember, go to disgraceadpod.com. You're going to get exclusive content like the mini-episode. You're going to get ad-free listening. You're also going to get an exclusive content like this little bit of the after party that we're going to get into on the greatest concert films of all time. From our perspective, mine and Zets, and also some overlooked gems that we hope
Starting point is 00:43:58 are shine a light on some films you might not have seen. Some great ones from master musicians, huge artists, and also some artists who are kind of flying under the radar, but just, you know, make great. concert films. That is Zeth Lundy, Dr. Zeth Lundy to you and I in the All Access section of the After Party. All right, guys, thanks for joining me for another episode of the After Party. Earlier, we talked about so many artists, but earlier in the B block here, we talked about Bob Dylan, Eric Clapton, Van Morrison. We have episodes on all those guys, as well as a ton of others, over 250 episodes in our archive. And Matt is going to put the episode information
Starting point is 00:44:54 in the show notes for Dylan Clapton and Vera Morrison, and you'll be able to easily navigate to those who want to check those out. All right, let's recap. Number one, this week's full episode, The Band and the Last Waltz. That is available for you right now. Go check that out if you haven't already.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Number two, our new mini episode for All Access members on the Death Pact that the band had. That's available as well. You've got to be an all-access member. Sign up at disgracecentpod.com. Number three, rewind episode on Merle Haggard, kicking off the Christmas season. That's coming up next.
Starting point is 00:45:23 And number four, next week. week comes our part two Merle Haggard episode. That's brand new. That's going to hit you. It's going to hit you right where you needed to hit you. Number five, that's going to give you those Hollywood and crime vibes in Hollywoodlands and make sure you're subscribed over there. 617-90666-6638. Your voice keeps us digging into the dark corners of music history. So keep calling. Keep texting with your answers to this week's question of the week or whatever the hell else you want to talk about. And remember, this isn't just content. It's a community, a community of the obsessed. No one cares about music books, records, and the crime and grime, it ties them all together like you do, and well, that's a
Starting point is 00:45:57 disgrace. All right, okey dokey, Mr. Muskogee on Thanksgiving Day, November 25th, 1976, the day the band and Martin Scorsese filmed the greatest concert film of all time, The Last Waltz. This is what America was listening to on that day, according to the Billboard charts. Number one, tonight's the night, gonna be all right. Rod Stewart. Last week, one. Weeks on chart nine number two the wreck of the edmund fitzgerald gordon lightfoot last week two weeks on chart fourteen peak position number five number three love so right vg's last week week's on three weeks on chart eleven peak position last three number four muskrat love captain and tineal last week four weeks on chart ten peak position four
Starting point is 00:46:50 Number five, the rubber band man, the spinners. Last week, six. Weeks on a shirt. Talking and start mixing. When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist, they take matters into their own hands. I vowed. I will be his last target.
Starting point is 00:47:25 He is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves. We always say that trust your girlfriends. Listen to the. The girlfriends, trust me, babe, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When, like, young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever. And my first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do?
Starting point is 00:48:00 Rather be disappointed in. Do that. David O'Yellow-O. I love this podcast. whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Dennis Leary, Gaten Matarazzo from Stranger Things, Tanna Monjou, Camilla Morone, Carrie Kenny Silver, and more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Sometimes a suspect is found guilty before a verdict is ever read in court.
Starting point is 00:48:36 On the Wicked Words podcast, I talk with the right. who dig deep into the cases that changed history, including Marsha Clark, who went from prosecuting one of the most famous murder cases to writing crime fiction. It doesn't matter that you didn't take part in the murder. If you were at the scene at all, you're guilty of murder. Every week, the real story is revealed. Join us every Monday for new episodes of Wicked Words. Listen to Wicked Words on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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