DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode: Loving (and Hating) Aerosmith, Meeting Your Heroes, and the Way Back Machine

Episode Date: June 29, 2023

On this week's After Party, Jake is digging into why he loves and hates Aerosmith with a dive into a personal story from his way back machine. We ask the question: is it worth it to meet your heroes? ...More Hüsker Dü, more Fidlar, and more of your voicemails, texts, and DMs. Leave a message for Jake at 617-906-6638 or on socials @disgracelandpod and come join the After Party.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:09 This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland. The After Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the after party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt.
Starting point is 00:02:44 On this episode, we are talking about Aerosmith. That time you met that famous dude from that band, more Husker-Doo and more Fiddler, or is it Fiddler, that glorious year of music, 1994, and of course your voicemails, text, DMs, and more, and as always a whole lot of rosy. All right, discos, let's get into it. One, two, oh my God, and welcome to the disgrace land,
Starting point is 00:03:20 big bonus 10-inch episode where we are talking about, among other things, this week's full episode of Arrowsmith. I've got a like-hate relationship with Arrowsmith. Guys, I never loved Arrowsmith. In fact, as far back as I can remember, something about the band just drove me nuts. Some sort of classic rock indicator of lameness type dog whistle. But then again, there are Arrowsmith songs that I kind of really like.
Starting point is 00:03:47 I don't love. I guess some I love. Sweet emotion is just fucking an incredible, incredible song. But when I was a young metalhead, you know, I had Arrowsmith's greatest hits cassette, bought it at City Hall Music on High Street and Clinton Mass, wore the shit out of that tape. Kings and Queens, guillotine, all that. Loved it. But once punk rock hit me, and then later in high school and in college, when I started
Starting point is 00:04:12 developed taste, my own taste and forge my own identity through music and through the music that I consumed, Arrowsmith was out. They were just too lame in my eyes. It didn't matter how cool Joe Perry was. Stephen Tyler was too much of a cheeseball, and I could not get with them. Even if permanent vacation gave me heavy nostalgia vibes for hanging out in Mary Young's basement and playing Spin the Bottle, it didn't matter. Arrowsmith wasn't and still isn't my bag.
Starting point is 00:04:38 I like to think it's because of the music, but perhaps there's another reason. Because of the cheesiness of the band, it's something more. And I got to tell you this story. All right. Arrowsmith, as you know, is now doing a,
Starting point is 00:04:51 or they're getting set to do a farewell tour this year, and they're ending the tour at the Boston Garden on New Year's Eve. That's because, for years, back in the day, the band would do these annual or semi-annual, or pretty regular at least. I don't know how often they did them, but they seem to always be doing these New Year's Eve shows or end-of-the-year runs at the Boston Garden.
Starting point is 00:05:11 When I was 15 years old, I was offered tickets to one of these shows. This was Pump-era-Arosmith, and if I'm being honest, that record isn't that bad. It's still cheese, but it's not like the imported, super-stinky kind of cheese. It's not the super-processed-American cheese either. It's more like a solid hunk of yellow cheddar. You get pasty on a cheese plate at a really boring party,
Starting point is 00:05:28 but a party you're still hanging around at because the vibe is like, oh shit, that dude's Steven next to the bar. He's kind of fucking crazy. He might lose his shit and go into a cocaine seizure at any moment. But I digress. And I did that little cheese bit there
Starting point is 00:05:39 to annoy all the people who write to me and ask me what it is with cheese and me in the episodes. Why do you mention cheese in every episode? Why do you talk about your Militron? Yada, yada, yada. Just fucking with you guys. But back to my 15-year-old self and Aerosmith.
Starting point is 00:05:53 I got invited to one of these New Year's Eve Arrowsmith concerts at the Boston Garden. The old Boston Garden, by the way. by a friend of my dad's who was a writer for Billboard magazine. Uncle Dave. He wasn't my uncle, but we just called him that. 15-year-old me.
Starting point is 00:06:07 I'm fully into New York in Boston hardcore at the time. Peg jeans, Jordans, champion sweatshirt, flat-top. When I'm not listening to hardcore music, I'm listening to Public Enemy in NWA. My look was like Irish thug meets an extra from do the right thing.
Starting point is 00:06:20 My point, though, is that there wasn't a lot of daylight in my stees at that time for love in a fucking elevator. But free show with a writer from Billboard magazine who was there to review the show and thus had backstage access. So, you know, I wasn't stupid. I was in. If for no other reason than the experience.
Starting point is 00:06:40 So we get there. Seats are awesome. Doug Flutie's sitting right in front of me. That blew me away. Arrow Smith plays. And they were great. They were fucking great. We go backstage after the show and it's pretty lame, but it's totally exciting at the same time.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Lots of food that I didn't want to eat. you know, yellow hunks of cheese and the like, and lots of people waiting around. No band. No band's not there. Just a bunch of people hanging around looking at each other, feeling awkward. Finally, Stephen Tyler comes out, all right. It's him. He's right there.
Starting point is 00:07:09 And he's immediately, like, swarmed by people. Most of them, young kids, like me, younger kids, some really young, some teenagers, but all of them with their parents. So I join in the fray as they're all trying to meet the singer for Arrowsmith, okay? but I don't have an adult with me. But, you know, I'm cool. I'm 15. I'm basically Chuck D in my mind.
Starting point is 00:07:32 And who the fuck is Stephen Tyler anyways? But just some dude from the South Shore or New Hampshire or whatever. So I don't need an adult because, yeah, man, fuck Arrow Smith. But still, I want to meet Arrowsmith. I want to meet the guy. I'm star-struck, despite myself, all right? Just like all these little shits that are surrounding him with their polite parents shepherding them in introductions with Stephen Tyler.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Okay? So we're in, like, picture of this, like, horseshoe circle around Stephen St. Tyler backstage, me and all these kids and their parents. And the dude I'm with, the writer from Billboard, could give a shit. He's at the bar or something, which I can't blame him for if I'm being honest. But the point is, I've got no one there. I've got no adult with me to introduce me to Stephen Tyler, unlike all these other kids. And Stephen Tyler is making the rounds and the semicircle shaking hands. And he's doing so shaking hands with all these kids as he's introduced to them by their parents. Hey, Stephen, great show. This is my son, Billy. Hey, Stephen,
Starting point is 00:08:22 awesome show. Thanks for taking the time to meet my daughter, Jessica. You know. But I've got no adult. Again, no one with me. So Stephen meets the kid next to me, looks at me, takes a beat, I freeze, no adult introduces me, and Stephen just moves on to the next kid to my left, who was introduced by his parent, skips me. And I look like a 15-year-old flat top having wannabe who just got dissed by a hunk of yellow cheese, and that I didn't want to meet really in the first place.
Starting point is 00:08:49 I didn't want to fucking be there. I was humiliated. So is that why I hate Arrow Smith? I don't know. I don't think so. Uncle Dave, nowhere to be found. I slump over to the corner of the room. I must have looked extra pathetic because out of nowhere
Starting point is 00:09:04 I get asked by the super tall dude who's just standing there if I like the show. And of course, smart ass in me says no. The guy smiles. He says he didn't like it either and it was Tom Hamilton, the bass player for Arrow Smith. And we had a brief moment
Starting point is 00:09:21 and he must have seen me, I don't know if he saw what happened or I just looked fucking sad and pathetic or something. But that little smart-ass smile of his and, you know, him allowing me to be a little punk, it made my night, saved my night for me. And, you know, that's in a nutshell what Aerosmith has always been to me. On the one hand, they let me down. Always. There's always something for me not to like as represented by my encounter with Stephen Tyler. But I'm talking about in their music. There's always something I don't like. And then again, there's always something that I do like, something that's real.
Starting point is 00:09:54 authentic, and that's the Tom Hamilton side of it, I guess, from this story. 617-906-66-36-3-8. Who are the rock stars you've met, and did they let you down? Or did they pick you up? Leave me a voicemail, send me a text, tell me a rock star encounter stories. I'm back in a flash. Your husband is not who you think he is. Your body is not what you thought it was.
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Starting point is 00:13:36 New episodes drop every week on the exactly right network. Listen to Deer Movies I Love You on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, you know the drill. 617-906666638 to send a text or leave a voicemail like this dude from the 810. That's like our, you maybe check out the crawlers if you haven't already. Detroit, where we're from. We're kind of going with the Hooster Doos air. I actually went to that concert with my mom.
Starting point is 00:14:34 They're just super talented group of dudes. They really, a couple cool recommendations. And, yeah, keep it going, rock a roll. All right, awesome voice mail, man. Thank you. Stoked that you went and checked out who you could do and stoked you and your brother are into them. Love that you made the connection to Fiddler.
Starting point is 00:15:06 And is it Fiddler or Fiddler? Hit me back, let me know. Because I don't know. Because, yeah, man, fuck it, dude. Life's a risk, for sure. Definitely going to check out the growlers on your recommendation. And on the Violent Fems, I saw them back in the day.
Starting point is 00:15:19 I might have been 15 as well, just like Aerosmith, at an Earth Day concert, and they fucking owned Foxborough Stadium just as this tiny little three-piece. They were awesome, and we had crappy seats. We were like, you know, in the practice field or whatever, next door. We were so far back. I don't even remember what the seats were like. But it was bad, and these were these tiny little specks of people, this little three-piece playing acoustic instruments,
Starting point is 00:15:43 and they kicked ass in this huge stadium. They were awesome. Your mom has good taste, dude. All right, let's check out this voicemail from, Courtney in the 937. Hi, Jake, it's Courtney from the 937. First off, I owe you an apology for hating on you for love
Starting point is 00:15:56 and the beeps. I'm over it. But yes, please, Husker do, because my tuck rock, let's say, catalog, is limited to, like, Gigi Allen and the Ramones and the Misfits and the Sex Pistols. So, I would love
Starting point is 00:16:13 to see this from a different angle, and you're totally the guy for that. All right, keep doing what you Rock a roll, baby. Courtney, don't hate. Love. Love. Love is the answer. Don't you know that? And I'm unclear.
Starting point is 00:16:28 I couldn't make it out from the voicemail. I'm unclear what you were hating me for for loving the Beeb. Is that what you said? Is that what you meant? Justin Bieber? I don't love Justin Bieber. I just did an episode on him.
Starting point is 00:16:38 But I do love. I am a lover and a fighter. And I do love Husker do, and I'm glad that you do now as well. I'm sure Gigi Allen did too. He probably never admit it, but I'm sure he did. All right, OK-dokey.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Let's check out one more voicemail. one from the 6-1-4. Hey, Jake, it's Jubal Moon from the 6-14, Columbus, Ohio. Hot fun in the summertime. Sly and the Family Stone makes my summer every year since I was a kid. One of the first albums I ever bought. And, yeah, happy summer solstice. stay hot, stay cool,
Starting point is 00:17:23 rock a roller. Sly in the family stone, hot fun in the summertime from our girl in the 614. Great recommendation in one of the all-time best summer bangers. I'm going to bump that one tonight. Thank you very much with a can of something cold and crisp out of my patio
Starting point is 00:17:38 before a movie night with the kids. Maybe I'll even work a cigar into the mix. I don't know. Who knows? Might get kind of loose tonight. Who knows? Thanks for the recommendation, 614. 617-906-66-3-8 to leave a voicemail and a text.
Starting point is 00:17:54 I want to know about your rock-star encounters. Who lifted you up? Who let you down? They say never meet your heroes. But I think that's bullshit. Maybe because my heroes aren't rock stars. So maybe that's why that's saying never landed with me. Anyway, I want to know what you guys think.
Starting point is 00:18:07 617-906-66-3-8 to send me a voicemail or text. Speaking of which, let's read some text. So from the 361, more love for Husker-Doo. love this. I love this little Husker Doe moment we're having here in disgrace. This, from the 361. Jake, what's up, brother, Jessica, again from the 361. Good old Corpus Christi, Texas. I was the one who sent Pix a while back of the Salina statue. Thanks for reading the message on air. My daughter thought it was the coolest thing ever. But anyway, being the old school punk rock girl that I am, I appreciate the recommendation for Husker Doe and Fiddler, Fiddler, Fiddler, I don't know, hadn't heard
Starting point is 00:18:46 them before and I dig them both, but wondering if there is going to be any episodes on fat Mike or any other gimmies, take care, man. I don't know, fat Mike. You know, to be honest, I don't know much about fat Mike. No effects, right? Right? Fat Mike, no effects, right? Fat records. I got to know this. I can't get this wrong. Hold on. Uh, fat Mike. I'm Googling. Yeah, I was right. No effects. Yeah, I guess I got to learn some fat mic history here and get into this with you guys. Yeah, let me check in on that. All right. Let's do some other texts. So we've been talking about the 50th anniversary of hip hop that's coming up. And I asked the question, who are your favorite emcees? We get another thing going, another part of this conversation, who are your favorite
Starting point is 00:19:36 top 10 rap groups? But the MCs one, that question is most. much harder. And I just want to go through this, this text here because it's a good, it's a good one from the 206, right? It's in top five MCs of all time. Rakim, number one, Nass, number two, M&M, number three, number four, Black Thought, number five, Shaarok, mic drop. I'm out. That's a solid list, good mix of the old and the new. 617-90666-6638. Who are your top five MCs? Let me know. Let's get into it. I'm genuinely curious. I gave you my list last week, but I want to know your The 310 Texan. Hi, Jake.
Starting point is 00:20:17 I'm a tour manager. Been doing it for 30 years. Just retired due to health. That sucks, man. Sorry. slash congrats. Maybe it's a good thing, actually. You get to chill, get some time.
Starting point is 00:20:27 The 310 goes on to say, I was a punk slash hardcore kid and just discovered the podcast, just starting to dig through it, but really enjoying it so far. I did a show for South by Southwest, Usher, backed by the Afghan wigs. It's on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:20:39 It was amazing. Wow, that does sound amazing. I want to check that out. I'm going to check that out. Thank you, 310. Usher with the Afghan wigs backing him up. Great collaboration. Great recommendation.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Thank you. All right. So the 401 text in. Long time listener, first time connector. Okay. So, that's his expression. So four o's on. So five, actually.
Starting point is 00:21:01 It's abundantly clear you don't know hip hop because you think biggie is better than Tupac. Hold on. Hold on. Just fucking stop. Okay? Like, it's an opinion. It's an opinion.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Having an opinion does not disqualify you from understanding something, okay? It's taste. It's taste. I believe Biggie Smalls was a better MC than Tupac Shakur. And that is based on my taste. It's not fucking science. It's taste. I'm not even going to read.
Starting point is 00:21:41 I'll read the rest of it because I'm a nice guy. Says here, no shade. Oh, thank you, no shade. But you really need to listen to the messages Tupac offers. Again, okay, it's not about the message. I guess part of it is about the message. And maybe I don't resonate with Tupac's message in the same way that I resonate with Biggie's message.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Maybe I don't want all the social conscious vibes and I want some fucking party, crystal and the hot tub vibes. Maybe that's just my vibe. Doesn't mean I don't understand a thing. Again, it's taste, preference, opinion. Let's see. It says he teaches people, Tupac,
Starting point is 00:22:22 so much about history and life. He's a genius. Yeah, present tense, not past. I love this text. Loll. Okay, so you're saying Tupac's alive. I can get with that. Not really, but I can.
Starting point is 00:22:36 But seriously, his lyrics are so much deeper than Biggie. Okay, I get that. I understand that. But are you telling me that, like, the doors are better than the Ramones because Jim Morrison is deeper than fucking Joey Ramon? I don't think so. I don't think it works that way, man. I don't. That said, top five, Rakim, Tupac, Nass, KRS 1, Kendrick, Lamar, or Kanye, but probably Kendrick because he won a Pulitzer.
Starting point is 00:23:02 I think you're putting way too much importance on a fucking Pulitzer Prize. They gave one of those to Daffy Duck, if my memory. serves correct. Also, you really need, oh, God, I'm not going into this. Okay, blah, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada. It goes on. Do better. That ain't cool. Whatever. I hope you read this. Still like your show, though. Just be complete with all your info. It's impossible to be, look, I have a 30-minute show. I have a format.
Starting point is 00:23:30 It is what it is. I can't, I'm not going to give you every fucking wormhole on every subject and chase everything down. And I know you know this, 410. I know you know this. You've listened to too many episodes. I can tell by this text. And I really appreciate it. text. Thank you. And I appreciate your, what's the word here, your forceful opinions,
Starting point is 00:23:56 because I share forceful opinions myself. So thank you. Keep listening. Keep writing in 401. Awesome. All right. Let's do another text. From the 530, I listened to the 6-8 bonus disgrace land episode, Orland, I got that wrong. Remember I was asking, is it Orland, Orlando? It's Orland between Sacramento and Redding, my hometown, off I-5. Thank you, 5-30. All right, thanks for clearing that up. All right, from the 978, writes in, I was just curious why you put your number on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:24:27 What would you like to talk about? Loll, 978, these are my people. I put my number on the podcast. You know why? You're listening to this. Come on. I don't even know why I read that one. That was dumb.
Starting point is 00:24:39 But I read these in real time. Let's see, what else we got here? From the 301, coming in with a much-needed, correction here. Hi Jake. Love the podcast and the mini shows. I just listened to the Lil Kim episode and one small correction. Foxy Brown's album was called Il Nana, not Lil Nana. I was big fans of both their music growing up. Keep up the good work. Janay, pronounced like Renee, Washington, D.C. Sorry about that, Janae. Uh, I bet that was actually, uh, you know, to be perfectly honest, I don't have the Foxy Brown album just in my memory bank. And I bet you it was, uh, in the script correctly. And my
Starting point is 00:25:16 brain just scrambled it when I was doing the VO and I read it the wrong way. Apologies for that. What else we got? Let's do a couple more here. We asked about a couple weeks back, we asked about some of the strangest music collaborations out there because of the little Kim, Tommy Lee collaboration. Here's one that I didn't know was a thing. What's up?
Starting point is 00:25:34 Jake, Buster Rives featuring Ozzy Osbourne on the track, This Means War, signed Adler. Adler, I don't know that. And you know, Buster Rives is one of those dudes who, Every time I hear him, I think to myself, this guy's fucking incredible, and I have, like, no window into his thing. I'm just in the dark. I got to get into Buster Rhymes. Maybe the 50th anniversary of hip-hop will compel me to do so, all right? So, 617-906-6638.
Starting point is 00:26:06 That's how you text me. That's how you voicemail me. I read him here. You can also do the Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, at me, at Disgraceland Pod. And I will respond to some DMs in here. Let me pull up the old DM folder. Where are we at? Where we at?
Starting point is 00:26:23 Where we at? Where we at? Here we at. All right. So let's see. This one on Instagram from Chris on it, my buddy Chris, from down under. So Jake, I'm now listening to Taylor Swift because of you. See, people, this is why you listen to disgrace land.
Starting point is 00:26:39 You get Hoosker Do and Taylor Swift. Okay? Who's good? You know, 15-year-old me is smiling. right now because I always took shit for liking all kinds of music and frankly when I was that age I was the only one I knew besides my dad who liked all types of music and it was directly because of my dad he was very open-minded with music now we treat this as a as a normal thing to be in all to be into all kinds of stuff to be inclusive with our taste to diverse this was not the deal
Starting point is 00:27:10 back in the 80s and the 90s in high school junior high you were like into a fucking thing and that was your thing. If you were into punk rock, you hated motherfuckers who were into heavy metal and you fought with them physically. Same went the other way as well. Me?
Starting point is 00:27:25 I'm out there on a fucking island when I'm a young kid listening to whatever the fuck I wanted. I told you before. Chuck D. Sick of it all. Arrow Smith. So I get this thing here from Chris,
Starting point is 00:27:36 a guy I don't know who lives literally on the other side of the world telling me, hey, so Jake, I'm now listening to Taylor Swift because of you. After all the Husker do, incoming that we got from like real punk rockers in this episode. And I got to say,
Starting point is 00:27:51 14, 15 year old me would be stoked. Chris goes on to say, I've recently turned my partner onto her also. Now I find out this morning that she's touring. It will be going to her concert when she's in Sydney. What the fuck happened to me, mate? Can dudes like us be concert swifties and saying that she does make great music. Great text, Chris. Thank you. Yeah, man, dudes like us can be whatever we want. That's the beauty of being alive. All right. What else we got here? Hi, Jake. This is Teresa from Trenton.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Trenton, Ontario, Canada, the 613. Love all the shows. I'm really looking forward to another blood on the tracks. As to today's mini-episode question about odd musical pairings, I would have to say the new release from Rob Halford and Dolly Parton. What? Mind-blown. Teresa, what the hell are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:28:40 What is, what is, there's a Rob Halford Dolly Parton collaboration? It feels like this should be like the algorithm should just mainline this straight into my brain. I don't know how I didn't know about this. And Teresa all the way up in Ontario is having to tell me that or Rob Halford and Dolly Parton, he better publicist because this feels like something we should know. Or maybe we shouldn't. Maybe it's bad. We shouldn't know.
Starting point is 00:29:00 I have no idea. Teresa goes on to say, thanks for all the great work. You help keep me amused at work while I clean at Canada's largest Air Force base rockerola. You got it, Teresa. Awesome text. I mean, DM. Excuse me. Yes, DMs at Discraceland Pod on.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, and TikTok. All right, yeah, and 617-90666-638. Voicemail and text. Hit me up. Take a quick break back with some recommendations. Your husband is not who you think he is. Your body is not what you thought it was. Your identity is formed by a secret history.
Starting point is 00:29:37 I'm Danny Shapiro. And these are just a few of the stunning stories I'll be exploring on the 14th season of Family Secrets. And just then, we felt the plain turn in the air. so much so that the bags that were under people's seats just kind of flew into the aisle. Each week, we dive headfirst into the complex power of secrecy, how it shapes our identities and relationships, and how it ultimately can reveal to us our truest selves.
Starting point is 00:30:04 My daughter, she's pretending she doesn't know, but is trying to cook and feed me and keep me alive because I wasn't eating anything, and me pretending like everything was fine. He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move. And he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off, and that was the last time I saw him. Listen to season 14 of Family Secrets, starting May 7th, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:30:30 This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests, like Amelia Clark. When, like, young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever, my first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? Rather be disappointed in. Do that. Dennis Leary. I wake up and I'm hitting him in the head with a water bomb. And Bruce Jenner is on the aisle in a karate stance like he's about to attack me.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Like making karate noises. And his entire the Kardashian family over there, everybody's going. And the air marshal is trying to grab my arms and screaming. I immediately know that I've been asleep walking. David O'Yello. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Guy Branham.
Starting point is 00:31:23 So anyway, Nicole Kidman broke up with Keith Thurban. Being half of a country couple was always a hat she was going to wear, not like a life she was going to lead. Oh, interesting. I like that. Did you practice that on your way over? Gaten Matarazzo from Stranger Things. Tena, Monjou, Camilla Morone, Carrie Kenny Silver.
Starting point is 00:31:44 And more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just like great shoes, great books take you places. Through unforgettable love stories and into conversations with characters you'll never forget. I think any good romance, it gives me this feeling of like butterflies. I'm Danielle Robe, and this is bookmarked by Reese's Book Club from Hello Sunshine and IHeart podcast, where we dive into the stories that shape us on the page.
Starting point is 00:32:17 and off. Each week I'm joined by authors, celebs, book talk stars, and more for conversations that will make you laugh, cry, and add way too many books to your TBR pile. Listen to bookmarked by Reese's Book Club on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Brought to you by Cotton, the fabric of our lives. The recommendations part, this is the recommendations part, the part where we recommend the things that need recommending the recommendations
Starting point is 00:32:50 part, what I've been listening to. So, listen, guys, I'm stuck in this 1994 wormhole this week, all of a sudden. It started with the Spoon Man from Soundgarden came on, and I was like, oh, I'll do the Spoon Man radio. And then fucking all of a sudden, all I'm listening to her is this playlist, these different playlists actually from 1994. And it's just this 1994 epidemic of listening that I'm going through. And, you know, I knew this before, but listening to it now,
Starting point is 00:33:19 organizing my thoughts around the 12 months of 1994 and all the music that came out. Just an amazing year for music. Soundgarden, Super Unknown, Nirvana's unplug, Tom Petty's, Wildflowers, Weezer's, Blue Album, Bex, Mello, what's the one with the loser? Green Day's, Duky, R-E-M-M-Moster. The weird thing is, I'm even listening to the shit.
Starting point is 00:33:45 I hate it in 1994 when it comes up on these playlists. I'm not hit and skip, Blues Traveler, even though I hate to say this, the Dave Matthews band. They pop up on the 94 playlist and I'm like, okay, I'm listening. Definitely maybe by Oasis, Park Life by Blur, TLC's Crazy, Crazy, Seek, cool, Grace by Jeff Buckley, downward spiral, nine-inch nails, ill communication by the Beasties, Illmatic by Nas, Biggie's ready to die. Yeah, Biggie, not Tupac.
Starting point is 00:34:10 I've listened to a 1994 playlist almost every day this week while working out at the gym and I just can't help but ask. Is 1994 the greatest year for music? My wife has this theory that every 10th year is a bang-out, unbelievable year for music releases. She holds that 1974 and 2004 and 1984 are all as impressive as 1994. 1984, just sampling here. I'm not going to give you all the releases from all these different decades every 10 years. But 1984, Prince, Metallica, Bruce Springsteen, Madonna, the Smiths.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Look it up. 84, an amazing year. So I'm going to ask, what are the greatest years for music releases? Like one year? Is it 94? Is it 84? 74? It can be 93.
Starting point is 00:35:00 93 is incredible as well. There's that thing where, like, on the same day or in the same week, like chili peppers, Nirvana, I forget Beasties, something with Jane's the date, like all these incredible seminal albums came out. Look at your record collections. Look at your CD collections, your cassette collections, if you have them. Look at your listening history in Spotify or Amazon Music or Apple Music, wherever you listen to music, wherever you stream it.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Look and see what years you hone in on and then try to like drill down even deeper. What does your record collection or your streaming listening habits say about what year in music you think is the best year for music releases? 617-906-66-38 to let me know. I'm putting this after party together a little earlier in my production schedule during the week than I normally do. So I haven't had a chance to watch a ton since we last spoke. I did happen to catch, as I mentioned in the bonus up, I mean, sorry, in the mini episode, the pre-party. I did happen to catch Freak Me, the video Freak Me by Silk, you know, I want to get freaky with you. And I can't unsee this video.
Starting point is 00:36:09 And I'm just going to recommend you guys give that a Google. And also we got this whole, like, I want to talk about sex thing that's happening. the in the pre-party. We'll get into that next week in the after party. Sex songs, 617-90666-66-36-3-8. I want to get freaky with you is not one of my favorite sex songs. If you missed the mini episode, go check that out. I explain. 617-90666-36-38 for your music recommendations. Hit me and hit me hard, and I'll be back in a flash, flash, flash. All right, let's recap, shall we? Arrowsmith. Number one, Arrowsmith is the latest episode of Disgraceland. That's in your feeds right now.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Number two, we got a Badlands episode this week. The Badlands Feed, of course, on Marlon Brando. Number three, next week in the Disgraceland Feed, it's Fourth of July. And we are celebrating with a couple of special Fourth of July episodes for you. You're not going to want to miss these. I think it's going to make you happy. I think they're both going to make you happy. My number, number four.
Starting point is 00:37:28 My number is 617-90666-36-38. Call me on the telephone or text me. 617-906-66-6-6-3-8 at disgracelam pod. We talked about a lot in this episode. I want to know which rock stars have you met, and did they lift you up or did they let you down? I want to know what you're listening to. I want to know what year in music you think was the greatest.
Starting point is 00:37:49 And, yeah, back to our pre-party episode. I want to know what your sex songs are, okay? Hit me up. 617-906-66-36-3-38. I want to get freaky with Aerosmith right now by reading you the phone book from the early off. in Boston to celebrate the bad boys of Boston. Puk. Here we go. 4530 Bartlett Charles S. Dentist 142, Boylston Street. 1360. Bartlett. Samuel P. Dentist.
Starting point is 00:38:21 142, Boylston Street. 581. Bartlett and Blame. Grocers. 695, Washington Street. 1543. Bachelor Brothers. Coal, 356, Federal Street. 341, Beacon Oil Company. Oils, 42, India Street. 1481, Beard, E.L. Associated Press, 107 State Street. 7-O-1, Beer, EL, Residents, Cambridge.
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Starting point is 00:39:12 Brandon Co. Produce 19. Quit talking and start mixing. Curl! When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist, they take matters into their own hands. I vowed. I will be his last target.
Starting point is 00:39:30 He is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves. We always say that trust your girlfriends. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe, on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Your husband is not who you think he is. Your body is not what you thought it was. Your identity is formed by a secret history.
Starting point is 00:39:58 I'm Danny Shapiro. And these are just a few of the stunning stories I'll be exploring on the 14th season of family secrets. He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move. And he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off. And that was the last time I saw him. Listen to season 14 of Family Secrets, starting May 7th on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When like young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever.
Starting point is 00:40:30 My first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? You'd rather be disappointed in. Do that. David O'Yello. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Dennis Leary, Gaten Matarazzo from Stranger Things, Tena Monjou, Camilla Morone, Carrie Kenny Silver, and more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Thank you.

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