DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode: Mac Miller's Tragedy, the Real Cocaine Bear, and the Matrix

Episode Date: March 2, 2023

Jake covers it all in this week's After Party: his thoughts on the latest pod episode, our Cocaine Bear coverage on YouTube (yes, it involves music), and oh yeah, Jake's wife finally made him watch The Matrix.Send Jake your own messages about what he should watch, listen to, read, or even write in future Disgraceland episodes. Hit him up at 617-906-6638 and you just might hear yourself on air soon. Come join the After Party. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is exactly right. Double Elvis. Hey, discos. Need a little more disgrace land in your life? Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the After Party.

Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, everybody. This is a little thing we'd like to call the After Party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. On this episode, we are talking about Mac Miller, the Matrix, Cocaine Bear, and of course, your calls, your texts, your DMs, me reading the phone book and a whole lot of rosy. All right, discos, let's get into it. Happy, happy, happy, Joy, Joy, we are into another week here in Disgraceland.

Mac Miller lives in your feeds, currently, as does ACDC in 50 Cent, the three most recent episodes of our season 11. Next week, we're coming out you guys fast from 30,000. and feet with our episode on Leonard Skinner. See what I did there? I hope you all dig my conversation from last week with filmmaker Tiller Russell on the Nightstocker Richard Ramirez. We obviously had that talk because of the relevance to our ACDC episode that we just released.

Receives a ton of great feedback on that episode. Thank you to everyone who wrote. I want to thank all of you who reached out and who shared your listening experience relative to that episode. I appreciate it. Regarding our most recent episode, though, the last episode of Disgraceland on Mac Miller, This is one of those episodes where in the mixed review process, it really hit me, this feeling of, man, it would have sucked to have been this guy. Just a tormented dude with a lot of obvious demons, but also a dude living out loud in public, with a lot of insecurities and having to deal with all that and all kinds of bullshit.

I don't care who you are, how famous or how successful you get. these are things that nobody wants to deal with. Anyway, my heart broke a little for Mac Miller. Sad story. I hope you guys dug the episode. Write me, text me, 617-906-66-6-6-6-38. Let me know what you thought of that episode or let me know what you think of any of the episodes.

You know, I'm here for you guys. I love having this conversation, talking about disgrace land, talking about your listening experiences, talking about the artists that you love, that I love, the artist that you want to hear about, the artists that you've heard about already that you have,

unique takes on or experiences with in your past or that you've listened to at work or that you're listening to at work, any and all of that. I'm open. I'm here to listen. 617-906-66-6638. You can send me a text, but also I love the voicemails, just like this one from the 207. Jake, great job on the podcast. I'm loving everything that I've heard from season 11 so far.

I had to give you a little shout out and just tell you how awesome it was to hear this. Jasmine Nanu and Anu at the end of ACDC, because I think you and I feel the same way about that band, quite possibly one of the best modern rock bands. Looking forward to hearing more about ACDC. Also, I really enjoyed the Johnny Paycheck episode. I listened to that one again. I really like how you touch on country, and you do a good job. You really do, man.

And you're from the Northeast, so that's badass too. So have a good one. Thank you for what you're doing. Nice for it. Yes. Shazbat Nanu, Nanu. Shazbat,

Nanu, Nano. That's how we said it, actually. Shazbot, Nanu, Nano. Thank you. Thanks for that.

Voicemail. Yeah, I received a lot of, a lot of incoming. You guys are like, what the fuck is he talking about? Shazbot, Nano, Nanu.

I received a lot of stuff, a lot of incoming DMs, mainly, and of course, this voicemail. People are like, what's up with Shazbat, Nanu,

that would, those were the last words, I said, at the end of the previous episode of disgrace land on ACDC. And I did it for ACDC heads, most of you will know. And even for Mork and Mindy heads, most of you will know as well. And therein lies the confusion. At the end of Highway to Hell, Bond Scott's last record with ACDC

at the end of the very last song, Night Prouler, I think it's the last song, or is it the last song on Side A? I can't remember. Night prowler, which is the song, which was associated with the Knight Stalker, which is in part the point of my last episode. At the end of the recording of that song on the ACDC album, Highway to Hell, Bon Scott, the last thing he says is Shazbat Nanu Nanu. And I can only imagine because this was 1979, and I'm just guessing here, but Mork and Mindy with Robin Williams, Robin Williams's breakthrough sitcom, Shazbat Nanu Nanu was something that Mork said, apparently. I don't remember that. I was too little.

I do remember Nanu Nanu. The Shazbot, I don't remember. And I think it was just sort of in the air. And Bon Scott was probably in America hanging out and familiar with this, how could you not be familiar with Robin Williams? He was such a dynamo, huge force. And he was probably inspired and goofing off

in the studio and let that fly at the end of the vocal take, and they kept it. And, you know, it's also kind of, it's the perfect representation. of Bond Scott that I talked about in that ACDC episode. I wasn't planning on talking about this here in the after party, but now this voicemails got me into it again.

The, you know, ACDC was, of course, accused of inspiring Richard Ramirez, and they did inspire Richard Ramirez. Of course, it was unintentional. And like I say in that episode, you have to be a fucking moron to believe that ACDC, that group contained. actual sataness. And if you just like looked at it from any angle from objectively for more than two seconds,

you would see that as demonstrated by the Shazbat Nanu Nanu as well as a gazillion other examples, the band, ACDC, Bond Scott, Angus Young, Malcolm Young, Cliff Williams, whoever their drummer was at the time, they didn't take themselves seriously at all. It was a fucking put on most of the time. just like all the great rock and roll mostly is. And yeah, Shazbot Nanu Nanu. Perfectly encapsulates that sentiment. All right.

Let's go to, well, hold on. Actually, the 207 mentioned Johnny Paycheck in that last voicemail. I want to hit on that too. That was from Season 2, the Johnny Paycheck episode. We kind of low-key release season 2 into your feeds about a week or so ago. trying to get this 100 plus archive of episodes out there. So season two with our first two episodes on John Lennon, of course the aforementioned Johnny Paycheck here,

Spade Cooley, Motley-Crew, who else? Rick James, or was that? No, yeah, Rick James, Big Lurch. A lot. A lot of good stuff. Actually, Big Lurch for Season 1. A lot of good stuff in season 2, though. And it's all available in your feeds wherever you get your podcast.

So check that. out and we're going to check out Hal from Orlando with this voicemail here. Hi, Jake. This is Hal calling from Orlando, Florida. I did not realize you were such a big NASCAR fan, but glad you got to enjoy the race here last weekend. Speaking of which, obviously Jimmy Johnson is one of your buddies, team legacy, legacy motorsports, legacy motor group. So Eric Jones, driving the number 43 Guns and Rose's car, Gregson driving the 42 Wendy's cars

looking like Jimmy Johnson should have a new sponsor I love Carvana don't get me wrong but you know what really fucking badass on the side of that number 84 car disgrace land make it happen Jake

could you imagine legacy the one you are creating with your amazing podcast on the side of a legacy car. Anyway, just wondering what your thoughts on that might be. Love to see it.

Tell Jimmy said hi. Later. Ah, yes, yes, Hal. That would be amazing. I wonder what kind of coin it takes to sponsor a NASCAR driver. I could find out, I suppose. But I doubt Hal that I am in that income tax bracket,

though thank you for, you know, aspiring to put me there. Unlike Guns and Roses, who were indeed sponsoring one of the Legacy Motorsports, Jimmy Johnson's club, one of his, one of his team's cars at the Daytona 500, which I was just at. Someday, maybe, though, how? Maybe there will be a disgrace land car on the track. A girl can dream, as they say. All right, let's check in with Matthew from Lancaster, Pennsylvania.

Hey, Jake, this is Matthew from Lancaster, Pennsylvania. A big fan of everything you're doing. Love all the episodes learning about new artists and digging deeper into some artists that I'm already familiar with. Really great stuff. I want to make a suggestion that you do a clash episode, but specifically the period of clash when the late great Joe Strummer decided to take a personal hiatus and disappear for a period of time. some people say it was a planned publicity stunt some people say he needed some time away from the group What is the truth Jake? Why do you do some digging and let us all know

I'm a huge clash fan and I would love to hear your take on the band and specifically this time period in the band Thank you so much for everything can't wait for some more episodes. Have a great day. Matthew, you are reading my mind, my man. I covered this story. You clearly are not aware of it, and I'm a little disappointed in you, Matthew,

but here you go, man. I cover the Joe Strummer disappearance on our YouTube channel. Those stories that are on YouTube are not part of the podcast feed stories that you get. So, Matthew, here's your chance. I'm telling you directly. You can go to YouTube.com slash at disgraceland pod, and you will find our disgrace land video channel.

This Joe Strummer disappearance is one of the first ones that we filmed. We've got these long form stories up there that are a little bit more like the podcast, though I don't go as deep. You know, it's a different medium. They're probably about 15, 20 minutes max. Lots of visuals to support the narrative storytelling. And then I do these daily 60-second shorts that are all connected together to show you guys. You know, you can go from, gosh, Nina Simone to Mariah Carey to the go-goes to Bruce Springsteen to whomever.

In my mind, all these rock and roll stories are completely connected in some weird way. This insane world of transgressive behavior connects all of these artists. It's definitely the theme of my book. And it's definitely the theme of our shorts, actually our entire. YouTube channel. Everything sort of connects and weaves together. So head over there, Matthew, check out that Joe Sturmer story. The one you're recommending. It's there. It's waiting for you. YouTube.com slash at disgraceland pod. Subscribe. Turn on all your notifications so that you get updated every time we release the story. We just released a new one. It's my favorite one. It's on

the cocaine bear. You guys know about this movie that's out right now directed by Elizabeth Banks, which I have not seen. However, the actual real story of the cocaine bear. It has this crazy country music connection to Wayland Jennings, which I'm not spoiling anything by mentioning Wayland's name, but that he's a big part of this actual story. The story about the bear eating and snorting the cocaine is actually true, but there's a whole lot of other truth to it that I'm pretty sure the movie doesn't get to, which is fine. The movie's its own thing. It's probably the greatest title in the last century for films. It's insane. The cocaine and bear. But the actual real story and how it rubs up against the history of country music is really

fascinating. And I get into that on our YouTube channel. Check that out. Like I said, YouTube.com slash at this Graceland pot. You can go watch that. It's available right now. All right. Let's do some texts. All right. Looking at this text message from the 646. Excellent shows. As always, I would love for you to do a show on Public Enemy. That's interesting, man. That's interesting. And then there's a, this is another gravestone here. Image of a gravestone. This is my guy who sends me, sends me the good graves,

good graves from, from the mobsters in New York. But this one, I honestly don't know who this is, unless they spelled Lucky, unless they spelled Lucchasey, his name wrong. It's Lucky K-K-E-S-E-L-C-K-E-S-E, L-C-K-E-S-E, Thomas, Robert, and Conchase. And it says, Monster of the Week. Dude, I don't know who La Casey is.

I know Lueesey, the Moab Boss from back in the day, but this is spelled differently. And huge letters. So fill me in. Then he goes on to just say, just, name and names here. Eddie Mannix, Richard Pryor, George Carlin, Freddie Prince, Sr., Al Sharpton, Lewis Farrakhan. Those are all guys who did some stuff. Maybe you're suggesting these as future Badlands episode subjects. Richard Pryor, I hear you.

We have that coming shortly. If it's not out already, I honestly can't remember. Freddie Prince, Sr., that's interesting. George Carlin, also very interesting. Eddie Manix, I need to bone up and figure out who Eddie Manix is. Al Sharpton and Louis Farrakhan, I don't do politics, dude, but thank you for the suggestions. All right, from the 217. The musical scene of Area Code 217 is insane.

guitarist Steve Hunter left here and later joined Alice Cooper to record. Welcome to My Nightmare. Okay. All right. Didn't know that. Other legendary sounds from the 207 got their start and laid their roots. Ario Speedwagon, Dave Dan Fogelberg and Mudvane. Oh, man. And why should I mention to you that Burr-Bur, Dan, Failing, fighting music to play if you could afford it? Because those are the number one musicians that have come from the 217 area code. Very well. Very cheeky. Well done there. Thanks, Jake, for all you do with disgrace land from the 217. Right, where the hell is the 217? I don't even know where that is.

Someone let me know, what part of the country. Maybe I'll read the phone book for the 217 at some point. All right, let's see here. From the 310, you and your team bring exposure and unreal earbrain fuckery to what I absolutely dig. Thank you, sir. All right, all right, I like that. Thank you, 310. Absolute fuckery.

I'm into that. Let's see. Let's read another one here. Hey, Jake, this is Tom. My wife, Heather. turned me on to disgrace land a few years ago, but she had been a fan for about a year before I finally listened. And nobody looks better than Heather in a zombie Elvis t-shirt. Just saying, once I did listen, though, I binged them all in a 10-hour drive. All right, man. All right, Tom.

I think my favorite is the April Fool's episode. Can't believe I fell for it so hard. Awesome stuff. We both think an episode of the Go-Go's would have a lot of fuel. Rocka-Rola. Well, Tom and Heather, I just recorded like literally seconds ago a go-go's short for our YouTube page. That's 6179066638 to call with your other recommendations. But you can check out the go-go story. It's a short one, but still, that's over at YouTube.com slash at disgracelam. Pod, Tom, and his wife, Heather, looking fine in the zombie Elvis t-shirt.

All right, what else do we go? How about we do some DMs for a second? Let's do that. Let's see what we got here. All right. Ashley Lauren writes on Instagram. Today I was heading down the Canning Highway, listening to your ACDC episode.

If you didn't know, the song Highway to Hell was about the Canning Highway in Perth. I had no idea. Thank you. And thanks for the picture. Ashley sends the picture of her display in her car where she is playing ACDC, a satanic serial killer by Disgraceland.

And she screenshotsed the map as well. Look at that. That's awesome from Perth. All the way from Perth. Appreciate you, Perth. Ashley, Lauren. All right, from Courtney Ford, also on Instagram, DM,

Jake speaking, insert, throw, clearing here, and parentheses in a second. Ahem, Mike Patton, check out his project, Loveage, for some smooth jams to relax or getting your daily cardio with the misses. Wink, wink, wink. All right. Well, thank you, Courtney.

Yeah, maybe I'll, maybe I'll fly that flag, see what happens. I once opened for Faith No More back in the day, with my band Cast Iron Hike. We went on right before them. And my brother and I, actually, Faith No More had a limousine backstage, and my brother and I commandeered it.

We just got in it, told the driver to take us into town so that we could buy some cigarettes, and then we brought Faith No More's limo back, parked it backstage. I went on stage, got in a fight with a DJ from WAAAF, and that was it. That was my Faith No More experience. But I will check out Lovage.

I've never heard of them. I'm kind of embarrassed that I've never heard of Mike Patton's band lovage. Sounds awesome. Thanks for the recommendation. All right. So let's see. I got a comment here from vintage vigilante commenting saying disgrace land pop back of the day. My dad used to drink the same pub ACDC would drink at and play pool and hang out with them.

Mostly Malcolm and Angus. Holy crap. This is about the time they were just becoming known in Sydney and then shortly after globally on the big time music scene. Damn, vintage vigilante. Your dad's got some stories, I bet. That's amazing. I cannot imagine hanging out with Malcolm Young. Honestly, I mean, whoa.

All right, let's see. What else we got? Let's do some Facebook messages here. All right. Rick Descris, hit me up on Facebook. Great podcast, man. Looking to the Deep Purple Jakarta murder of their road crew in military,

trying to stop the plane from taking off. This was 1976. This year, Deepwater. purple are going back, going back to Jakarta, I presume. The first time since the incident, wow, I had no idea. That's insane. I'm definitely going to look that up. That sounds nuts.

All right, 617906-66-6-6-38 to text message me or to send me a voicemail, leave me a voicemail, or you know where to hit me up on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, at DiscracelandPod, TikTok. It's all the same. Get at me over there. Check out the YouTube.com slash at disgracelamp pod stories. we got going on over there as well. I will be back in one second. All right, let's do some recommendations.

This is the recommendations part. It's still missing a theme song. One of these days we're going to have a theme song for the recommendations part. This is the recommendations part. Guys, I saw The Matrix. I know. Welcome to 1999, dude. But I'd never seen The Matrix before until this past weekend.

And holy fuck, what was I doing? I don't know. I don't know what to tell you. This is just a huge blind spot in my movie watching. uh, view. I think I've had some sort of maybe unconscious bias against Keanu Reeves because I don't know, he seems like a dumb fuck,

but then again, he makes movies that are awesome like Rivers Edge and Bill and Ted's. And I guess that plays to the dumb, dumb part. But I was never particularly compelled to watch The Matrix. My wife made me watch it. She sat me down. One of the many reasons why my wife is awesome.

And she said, hey, you got to watch this fucking movie. What's wrong with you? Um, no doubt all of you know, because this is such a huge movie. and has been, and it's a historical movie. No doubt you all know how incredibly imaginative is.

Imaginative it is, imaginative it is. And it also has incredible resonance for what's going on right now in the world. I love the J.C. allegory, whether intentional or not, I thought it was cool. Highly recommend this if you're one of the five people on Earth who hasn't yet seen The Matrix, take the red pill, do yourself a favor. I also, I rewatched Gross Point Blank. I was hungover been on Saturday. I went to see Ashley Flowers do her thing, Crime Junkie.

Ashley's from Crime Junkie, but she has another podcast called The Deck, and she was doing a live version of the deck podcast here in Boston. And we went to that. My wife and I on Friday and the Thursday night before, we had dinner with Ashley and her husband, Eric, and it was awesome. But we over imbibed a bit. So by the time Saturday came, I was a little worse for where. And I needed something familiar, so I queued up the old Cusack.

Gross Point Blank and a movie I've seen a million times. It's awesome. It still holds up being from Boston. I love the morphine reference every single time from Mini Driver. Very cool. If for some reason, any of you have never seen Gross Point Blank, this is the push you need. If you're a music fan, you'll love it. If you're a Cusack fan, you'll love it.

If you're just a fan of, I don't know, dumb, comfortable movies. And it's not dumb. It's actually very smart, but it's not The Matrix. You will love it, though. And if you've never heard of morphine who I just referenced and you're wondering what the hell I'm talking about, by all means, run to Spotify or Amazon music or Apple, wherever you listen to your podcast. Hey, maybe even go to a record store and find the morphine album Cure for Pain, Seminole Boston band from the 1990s. Three-piece, a bassist, a baritone sax player and a drummer, damn unique, rocking, great lyrics, incredible vibe. You will dig morphine, I promise. I'm also among this weird, I guess we're doing what I'm listening to right now. I'm on this. this weird Billy Joel kick at the moment on TV the other night, Sunday night. PBS was running the Billy Joel concert at Yankee Stadium, which I'd never seen before. I found myself strangely captivated by this concert. Billy Joel is not one of my guys. Never has been. I like him fine. I don't,

I don't dislike him, but I guess I get why people dislike him. I never liked him as a kid. I kind of only liked that album, The Stranger, and sort of a thing that my wife and I were into, sort of as a record but not really as a Billy Joel artist though we did go see him live but whatever man I've just been on a Billy Joel kick the last couple days I was even working out to freaking we didn't start the fire yesterday so I don't know if you needed a if you needed some sort of kick to go listen to Billy Joel there it is giving it to you also a little confusion on the what I'm listening to part of side of the fence here that I got to clean up last after party Maybe it was the one before.

I can't even remember. God, I hope it wasn't the one before. I mentioned the Spotify playlist that I was creating for Disgraceland for the folks at Spotify. And when I recorded it, all our intentions were in order. And it was supposed to come out the day that the after party came out. But Spotify had to hold back the playlist for whatever reason. This isn't just like a playlist I created on my Spotify account. I created it with the folks at Spotify.

they're promoting it blah blah blah it's the official disgrace land spotify playlist it is now available that's my point as i babble here you can just search disgrace land playlist on spotify you will find this it's five hours of music like i mentioned before it takes you on this ride through the entire series for the most part of disgrace land and i'm talking everything from david bowie to johnny cash to oasis to asap rocky to mac miller to acdc to black Sabbath to Prince, but not just like me just grabbing stuff and piling them into a playlist. I went out this very intentionally and I really tried to string these together in some sort of, you know me, I'm a storyteller. So there's some sort of narrative piece thread to this playlist.

And if you listen to it, I think you will get it. And I think you'll enjoy it. And I spent a lot of time on it, man. So go check it out. And thanks to the folks at Spotify for allowing me to do this and for suggesting it was a trip. And I enjoyed it. All right. I'm also watching and you know, this was recommended to me. Remember I was like, what's the sort of light 30 minute thing that I need to watch at the end of the night? I get a lot of great recommendations. And I've talked about Letter Kenny here in the last few episodes. But I was also recommended Party Down. And I'd watched Party Down the entire series, I think, just two seasons years ago when it was out, because now it's almost 15 years old, I think, at this point. I didn't see it

when it was released, I wasn't that early to it, but I did see it pretty early, and I loved it, of course, it was great. And then just last night, you know, there's a new party down that was just released. There's a reboot with everybody except Lizzie Kaplan. I don't know why. I think she's not in it.

But anyways, I went to go watch the reboot, and I was like, huh, I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna cruise these first two seats. I can give him a light cruise. I put it on while I'm like, whatever. You know, like not really paying attention. Sucked right in. My God, I forgot everything about it, and it is so funny.

It is so, so, so funny. And if you have not seen Party Down, do yourself a favor, go watch it. I have no idea what the reboot's going to be like. I can't imagine that they get close to how good these first, the first season anyways. I'm like three deep into the first season. I'm going to crush a bunch of it tonight. I'll report back next week, having hopefully by then watched the reboot as well. but I am going to take a quick little break here, grab some water, pay some bills back in the flash.

All right, so let's recap everybody. Mac Miller, our latest installment from season 11 is available now wherever you get your podcast. Leonard Skinnerd is coming at you next in the feed next week. The story of the cocaine bear is available now. That's on YouTube only. YouTube.com slash at disgraceland pod. Head over there for more storytelling beyond the podcast. Subscribe,

bang on that notifications bell. What else? Number four on my list here. Listen to morphine. Go listen to morphine. Watch party down. Now I'm going to get out of here. I'm going to give you my moment of bliss.

This is me reading the phone book from 1947 in West Virginia. Damon. Oscar. Montvale Ave. 98W. 2. Damron, Wayne.

12-W3. Damon. Dari, Doey, Justice Addison, 85-J-J-1-2, David, Robert, 553, Straton, 1529, Davidson, Dora, Cherry Tree Bottom, 1172,

Davis, physician, 644-Straton, 502, Davis News Agency, 302, 302 Cole, 742, Debar, T, Mr. Missy, Stolings, West Virginia, 1613. Deary, Dan and Ethel, West Virginia, 911 J-1-1-1-2. Defobia, Alex, Capitol Apartments, 849, De Haven, George, Mount Addison, 2045. Quit talking and start mixing.