DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode: Marc Almond, US Festival, and a Denny's "Deposit"

Episode Date: November 16, 2023

This week is all about U2, and this episode of the After Party is no exception. Jake breaks down his personal history with the band's music, and gets in to our new weekly format. What DISGRACELAND epi...sode do you want to hear, new or old? What are your favorite musical tributes to fallen artists? What song do you want played at your funeral? Plus, Ellie wants to know your favorite Wu-Tang member. Drop a line at 617-906-6638, disgracelandpod@gmail.com, or on socials @disgracelandpod, and come join the After Party. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 This is exactly right. Double Elvis. When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist, they take matters into their own hands. I vowed. I will be his last target. He is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves. We always say that trust your girlfriends. Listen to the girlfriends.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Your husband is not who you think he is. Your body is not what you thought it was. Your identity is formed by a secret history. I'm Danny Shapiro. And these are just a few of the stunning stories I'll be exploring on the 14th season of Family Secrets.
Starting point is 00:01:00 He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move. And he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off. And that was the last time I saw him. Listen to Season 14 of Family Secrets, starting May 7th, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark.
Starting point is 00:01:22 When, like, young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever. My first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? You'd rather be disappointed in. Do that. David O'Yellowo. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Dennis Leary, Gaten Matarazzo from Stranger Things,
Starting point is 00:01:47 Tana Monjou, Camilla Morone, Carrie Kenny Silver, and more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, Discos, need a little more disgrace land in your life? Just a touch, to get you through? Yeah, me too.
Starting point is 00:02:09 This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland. The After Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the after party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party the bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt.
Starting point is 00:02:43 On this episode, we are talking, among other things, about our new full story on YouTube and the killer that took his cue from one of their songs. We're also talking about this week's Rewind episode on Sublime, And of course, we're getting into your voicemails, text, DMs, emails, and more. And as always, a whole lot of rosy. All right, discos, let's get into it. This is not a rebel song. This is Disgraceland.
Starting point is 00:03:21 And this week in Disgraceland, we bring you our first episode of season 14, a brand new episode on U2, specifically, you two as we knew them nearly 40 years ago back in 1987. I can't believe that was 40 years ago. Back in 87, when you two dropped their fifth studio album, the excellent, excellent album, the Joshua Tree, and became one of the biggest bands on the planet in doing so. They also caught the attention of a lot of crazies, murderers, terrorists, you name it,
Starting point is 00:03:54 both here in the States and back in their home country of Ireland. This story that we've told this week in disgraceland, this story is about a particularly disturbed man by the name of Robert John Bardo, who was living in a... Arizona at the time, and he became obsessed with an actress in Hollywood, and he also at the same time became obsessed with the U-2 song, Exit. Exit is the second and last track on side two of the Joshua Tree. And the thing that distinguishes this song from any other U-2 song is, I mean,
Starting point is 00:04:26 this is, this is, I honestly feel like this is Bono getting pulled into the trap of true crime. way before we even really had a phrase for it. I mean, I guess we had a phrase for it. Truman Capote in Cold Blood was the first true crime book. I think Helter Skelter is known as the Mac Daddy of Mall. And that was, you know, both those books were produced decades before Bono wrote the song Exit. I think, I think Bono might have been reading Norman Mailer, but he wrote the song Exit and he put himself into the perspective of a killer. The song is written from the point of of a killer. And it is a murderous sounding song. It's dark. And Robert John Bardo, who was mentally ill, to put it nicely, he quite honestly didn't know how to deal with this song. And it
Starting point is 00:05:19 soundtracked this murderous plot that he carried out. As a result of what happened and what the song came to represent, you know, a young woman died because of this song. Or, I mean, that's putting it kind of harshly because of the crazy psychotic manifestations of a killer who used this song to propel him. Because of that, you two didn't play the song Exit for decades. They thought it just had the wrong kind of energy, the wrong kind of power, evil, evil power in the song. And I don't think that's an overstatement. I don't think that's an exaggeration. I don't think that's hyperbole. I think Bono truly believe that that song possessed a certain kind of energy and the wrong kind of energy, which you're going to hear about in the episode we did.
Starting point is 00:06:12 And I believe it not only because I think Bono is a righteous guy. And I just believe that to be true. I think there are certain elements in the world. I think evil is real. I think there are certain pieces of art. I think there are certain objects in the world. I think there are certain elements. and people that possess the wrong kind of energy. And, you know, I didn't feel that way, I don't think, five years ago before I started this podcast, or at least I didn't think about it. I think the first time actually I ever thought about it
Starting point is 00:06:45 was when I watched the movie Jacob's Ladder. And I just sort of looked around at my world and thought like, God, what am I surrounding myself with that is the opposite of good? And it just, it caused me for the first time to objectify evil. And then when in doing the research for these episodes, you can't help but come upon just people from history who possess this darkness. You can't help but come upon objects, places, locations, settings, homes, buildings, music, art that contain this, this, darkness. And sometimes these things get created by accident with the best intentions and things
Starting point is 00:07:32 go wrong. And I think that's what happened here with the song, Exit. And it's fascinating to think about it. It's fascinating to listen to how Bono and YouTube dealt with this. And the true crime story at the heart of it all with Robert John Bartow and the murder of Rebecca Schaefer, who was a Hollywood actress at the time. Super interesting. And that is the subject of this week's episode. Okay. Brand new episode on YouTube, which you can get wherever you your podcasts. All right, we're doing this new thing now. Okay, tomorrow, the day after this release, whenever that is when you're hearing this, but the next episode in your feed, we're going to be releasing archive episodes every week. So the release schedule will from this point on be Tuesday,
Starting point is 00:08:12 full episode, Thursday, this after-party bonus episode, Friday, a rewind episode, which is a previously released episode that is sitting in the archive. Okay, here's what's gone on over the year. As you know, we were exclusive with Amazon Music. Throughout the year, we've released all of our content, most of it anyways. I think there's like four or five episodes that have yet to come out of the exclusive archive, but most of it, over, you know, 100 plus episodes. And we've attracted a lot of new listeners in the last year. And a lot of them write to us and say, hey, how about an episode on Led Zeppelin? How about an episode on Taylor Swift? How about an episode on Otis Redding. And I'm just like, I've, we've done these episodes. I get a lot of
Starting point is 00:08:58 requests for Guns and Roses episodes. I got a request for a Rolling Stones episode the other day. Like, we have, we have eight or something like the six, six stones episodes, I think. The point is, a lot of people are coming to the podcast for the first time and they're unaware of all the content and all the subjects we've covered in the archives. So what we're going to be doing from now on, on Friday, is we're going to be releasing these rewind episodes. Okay. So it's going to go Tuesday, new full episode Wednesday, bonus after party episode, Friday, Archive Rewind episode. This Friday, we are releasing the Sublime episode from the archive, releasing it back into the feed. And from now on, every week, every Friday, we'll be tying the release of these Archive Rewind episodes to something
Starting point is 00:09:39 going on in the world at large that has to do with the artist or the subject matter from that archived episode. So Sublime coming at you this Friday. I'm going to talk more about this episode later here in the after party. So here's the question, though. This is what I want to hear from you guys. If you are a new listener, what episodes do you want to hear? Okay? What subjects do you want to hear? Which artists? Which musical artist do you want me to cover? And don't worry if we've already covered them. What I'm trying to uncover here from you guys is where the interest is in what we've already produced and then resurface it for you here. Okay, if you are an existing OG Disco, Disgraceland listener from way back,
Starting point is 00:10:21 or if you've just been in with us here in the last couple years, what new episodes do you want to hear? What other artists do you want me to cover? We talk about this a lot. I try my best to get the subject matter that you want to hear into our production schedule. The Sublime episode, which I'll talk about later,
Starting point is 00:10:38 is a direct result of hearing from you guys. So let me know. 617-906-66-3638. What disgraceland episodes do you want to hear? New or old, Don't worry if we've already covered them. 61790666638 on the voicemail, old school style, new school style, 6179066638 to text me. Also, at Disgracelampod on all the socials.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Disgracelampod at gmail.com on email. Let's check out this email from Jerry Middleton, subject, your podcast, message. Started a short time ago to listen to Badlands and got hooked fast. Now, I'm about halfway through Disgraceland on Sirius XM. I'm from Michigan, and have you ever done or planned to do a show on Bob Seeger? Keep up the great job. Thanks, Jerry. No plans on Bob Seeger.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Bob Seger pops up in the, I believe, our Part 1 Eagles episode because of the Glenn Fry connection, another Michigan boy, as you know. I don't know if there's got to be some sort of true crime that rubbed up against Bob Seeger at some point. given that long career and given the Detroit connection, I'd be surprised if there wasn't something, especially given how the mafia controlled nightclubs back in the day and the silver bullet band was a bar band. So I'm sure there's something there.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Bob Seeger, Jerry, is one of those artists that I came to late. I did not appreciate the Seag when I was growing up. I fucking love it now, though, man. Getting older, expanding my horizon. And a lot of it has to do with, Rambling, gambling, man. That song, the placement with Brad Pitt from Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is just, oh, damn, so good. Thanks, Jerry.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Perhaps, perhaps a Bob Seeger episode in the future. 617-9066638, guys, or email me, disgracelandpod at gmail.com like Jerry there. And let me know what you guys want to hear for episodes. We got this one from Lindsay Cruz, subject episode suggestion, Francis Farmer. Now, I know Francis Farmer was an actress, and I know this is probably more. rap party, bad lands, fodder. However, this just gave me an idea, Lindsay, for a new disgrace an episode because of the nirvana connection to Francis Farmer,
Starting point is 00:12:56 Francis Farmer's Revenge. Lindsay Cruz says, hello, huge fan of your podcast, very informative and enjoy learning all the dark details on musicians and celebrities. Could you guys please do an episode on Francis Farmer? I love the idea, Lindsay, paging Zeth Lundy, let's mark that, let's put that on the production calendar, see what we can come up with there. Email here is the last one for this one. week from Jason Haas says hi Jack and everyone at disgrace and Jason I love you man I love you but my name
Starting point is 00:13:23 is not Jack dude it's Jake you know that you know that I'm gonna I'm gonna chalk this up to auto correct fucking up my name here uh anyways uh the email goes on to say long time listener first time writer just got done with the Halloween episode about black Sabbath oh what a finish love it love finding out what made Sabbath so damn good too with the tritone and Tony I Naomi's lopped off fingers. I had seen that many years ago, but never connected it once I started listening to Sabbath years later.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Also, their start as a Midlands band explains why their first album is so bluesy. Yes, it does. Yes, it does. A lot of great blues artists. Steve Linwood, Christine Perfect, a.k.a. Christine McVee. Jason, as you know, from that area where Black Sabbath is from
Starting point is 00:14:06 up by Birmingham there in the UK. Let's see, Jason goes on to say, thanks again. And hey, rockerola. You got it, Jason. All right, guys, email me. Disgraceland. at gmail.com. I'll be back in a flash with your voicemails and texts. There's two golden rules that any man should live by.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends, oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated, the same prolific con artist.
Starting point is 00:15:02 I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Your husband is not who you think he is. Your body is not what you thought it was. Your identity is formed by a secret history. I'm Danny Shapiro, and these are just a few of the stunning stories I'll be exploring the 14th season of family secrets.
Starting point is 00:15:47 And just then, we felt the plain turn in the air, so much so that the bags that were under people's seats just kind of flew into the aisle. Each week, we dive head first into the complex power of secrecy, how it shapes our identities and relationships, and how it ultimately can reveal to us our truest selves. My daughter, she's pretending she doesn't know, but is trying to cook and feed me and keep me alive because I wasn't eating anything. And me pretending like everything was fine. He kind of showed me out of the way and said, move. And he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off. And that was the last time I saw him.
Starting point is 00:16:23 Listen to season 14 of Family Secrets, starting May 7th on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some. some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When like young people come up to me and they want to be an act or whatever. And my first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? Rather be disappointed in. Do that. Dennis Leary.
Starting point is 00:16:52 I wake up and I'm hitting him in the head with a water bomb. And Bruce Jenner is on the aisle in a karate stance like he's about to attack me. Like making karate noises. And his entire the Kardashian family over there. Everybody's going, and the air marshal is trying to grab my arms and screaming. I immediately know that I've been asleep walking. David O'Yellowo. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just
Starting point is 00:17:22 go straight for the guts. Guy Branham. So anyway, Nicole Kidman broke up with Keith Thurban. Being half of a country couple was always a hat she was going to wear, not like a life she was going to lead. Oh, interesting. I like that. Did you practice that on your way over?
Starting point is 00:17:40 Gaten Matarazzo from Stranger Things. Tanya Monsu. Camilla Marone, Carrie Kenny Silver, and more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, guys, we are back.
Starting point is 00:18:07 I'm going to hit some voicemails and texts here. Before I do that, you know, we're talking about YouTube this week in our full episode. And, you know, it's funny, I've been surrounded. by you two almost my entire life. I remember being a really little kid, really little, and looking at the vinyl, the gayfold vinyl for Sunday Bloody Sunday, and that black strat, that black on black strat that the edge has, the black pick guard on the black body, I remember just being in love
Starting point is 00:18:37 with that guitar. It was before I had a guitar, before I had an electric guitar, excuse me, I did have an acoustic guitar. And I don't know how old I was, six, seven, something like that. maybe even younger, I'm not sure. And I just remember begging my father for that guitar and staring at that guitar in the artwork for Under Blood Red Sky and just being just, I had to have it. I was obsessed. Actually, did I say that the album was Sunday, Bloody Sunday?
Starting point is 00:19:03 I was wrong if I said that, Under a Blood Red Sky. That's what I meant to say. So anyhow, you too, been in my life entirely. You know, and I was a fan throughout, I mean, everything up until the Joshua tree, which was just ubiquitous, you could not get away from the song with or without you. And it just soundtracked sixth grade for us. It was incredible. I remember being up at St. John's Gym as a kid hanging out with chicks for the first time. You know, puberty, that whole thing, with or without you. That was the song. Burned into my memory. And then they just became too big.
Starting point is 00:19:40 and I lost interest because they became so damn huge, which is a dumb reason to lose interest in an artist, but it does happen. It's inescapable. Your interest change. You gravitate to other music. Things do become so big that they kind of eat themselves in a way, and you two definitely was that.
Starting point is 00:20:00 But here's the deal. Objectively, if you two never had a hit and they still made the same music and you listen to it, you would just put it on like out of the blue, like if an alien landed here tomorrow and just like you gave them all of you two's discography on a mix you just even just the hits the bangers whatever the spotify playlist is this is you too you just gave that to an alien they'd be like this is the greatest fucking rock and roll band of all time they are that good and i think the main reason they are that good is because of their frontman
Starting point is 00:20:30 he is that good and it's this this rare scenario where the front man is just extra everything about Bono is extra. He is a phenomenal singer. He has an incredible voice, and those are two distinctly different things. You don't need both to be a great frontman, but he has both in spades. Great frontman on stage, completely compelling off stage, okay? Always has something interesting to say, even if you're sick of his bullshit, quote unquote, or air quotes bullshit. But he's one of these frontmen who never really went off and had a solo career, and you know people were in his ear constantly, like they were with Mick Jagger telling him he could be the next Michael Jackson. You know, tell him Bono he can do whatever the fuck you.
Starting point is 00:21:13 He always, he just hung in there. And the band has its limitations. But I think that's a good thing, you know? They're not trying to be the Beatles. They were just trying to be you too. And they were fucking great at it. Incredible. And we might not realize now because we're so far removed from it just how fucking huge they were.
Starting point is 00:21:33 And deservedly so. They're an incredible band. That's all. Now, the reason I don't even know why I feel compelled to say this, except maybe because I've just never really given you to the space in my listening life that I should. And I feel like I am now because we got into this episode. And that's part of why I love doing this gig. So anyways, if you're some crusty punk rocker who hates you to, I get it.
Starting point is 00:21:58 But, you know, don't deprive yourself, man. Go back. Listen. Give it another chance. All right, let's check out some voicemails and text from you guys. 6179-066-663-8. Let's check out this voicemail from Edner from the 406. Hey, Jake, it's Ednor, calling from the 406.
Starting point is 00:22:15 Talking about the rock and roll best tribute songs to an actor or actress, the obvious one that pops to mind is James Dean by the Eagles. It's a great song, and that song rocks, especially for the Eagles. So that's my input, and I tell you, man, I think you have the greatest job in the world, and you're down good at it. So take it easy, man. Edner, thanks, man. Yeah, James Dean.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Yeah, it's a great song, great song. And similar to my rant just on you too, I had a very similar experience with the Eagles. Not exactly the same, but I came to them late, had an early disdained for them. Not that I ever really disdained you to or just didn't like you two, but I more gravitated away from them. But I came back to the Eagles and James Dean.
Starting point is 00:22:59 It's one of those tunes that it's purely Eagles. And yeah, it's a great tribute. So thanks, Edna. Thanks for the wreck here, and also thanks for the kind words. Appreciate you, man. All right, we were talking about in a previous episode, death songs we wanted played at our funeral. Got this voicemail from the 7-1-3.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Hey, Jake, this for Ney and 7-1-3 out in Houston. You were talking about death songs and stuff like that. I actually had a playlist of death songs that I told my kids, I went to play at my funeral. But the three songs, or four songs, I should say, really got to hear, because the highway men, by the highwayman. I want to hear George Harrison
Starting point is 00:23:36 What is life? And the one to start all for me was, you know, a tarantula, sweet cycle. But as everybody walks out for the funeral parlor, I wanted to play ProBot. Damn it, I can't remain. It's my ProBot. Let me sing it. Damn it, something blood. I really screwed this up. I apologize.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Have a good one. Bye. Oh, man, 713. Do not worry about about the ProBot tune. We will figure out for you and we will get back to you but on the issue of what is life by george harrison great selection great great funeral death song selection and george harrison had a really interesting take on death um he was obviously influenced by by eastern religion and i heard this great comment of his i think we might have got into it in the george harrison episode of disgrace land that we that we released about how dying was like you know you're just you're leaving this
Starting point is 00:24:32 body, you're just essentially your soul, you're just removing, you're just removing a coat and you're moving on. That's it. That's all the body is. And I think there's some truth in that. I definitely, not to get too spiritual here, but I think George Harrison was on to something. I think a lot of the religions in the world, be they Eastern, Western Christianity, Buddhism, Krishna, the whole concept of the afterlife. I believe in it now more than I ever have. But that is a different story entirely. Let's check out some texts, get back to the subject at hand, which is music in true crime. From the 440 on the subject of musical tributes to dead musicians, REM, 440 writes, REM, Let Me In from the Monster album is a tribute to Kurt Cobain. I didn't know that. I did not know
Starting point is 00:25:24 that 440. 440 goes on to say, it's painfully wonderful, Michael Stipe is Francis Bean's godfather. I did know that. I think she just got married to. Tony Hawk's son. And I think Michael Stipe was the officiant. I think, I think. Michael Stipe is Francis Bean's godfather makes it even more bittersweet.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Nicole Billington and Cleveland. Thanks, Nicole. Great text. Appreciate you. Put out the call for some dog picks. I don't know why. I know why. I love dogs.
Starting point is 00:25:51 So we got this one from the 9-17. Oh, you want dog picks. Here's my domino diamond dog. And Ziggy's a thin white Duke with a painting of Hendrix by a friend. rock a roller i love this i love this i'm going to story this on instagram all right nine one seven your dogs are gorgeous and i love the titles diamond dog in ziggie the thin white duke amazing they look perfect these dogs are freaking good looking all right what else we got here all right
Starting point is 00:26:18 the 303 writes in my favorite part of the new u2 episode is the mention of mcnickels arena here in denver the 303 goes on to say i saw a lot of great 80s rock and metal at micknickle Ozzie, Metallica, Motley Crew, White Snake, Bon Jovi. I did not see Def Leopard who filmed the Pour Some Sugar on Me video there. That's, uh... Damn, you missed out, because that poursum sugar on me video is racy. It's a good one. Would have been fun to be there.
Starting point is 00:26:47 573 writes in, greatest musical tributes to fallen musicians. I would like to put forth the soaring. Say hello to heaven by Temple of the Dog for Andrew Wood of Mother Lovebone. I added the mother love bone bit. You're right, 573, great song, Temple of the Dog, members of Sound Garden,
Starting point is 00:27:05 and Pearl Jam. I wonder what, if any, tributes to Chris Cornell have been written and recorded. I'm sure there's some great ones out there. All right, 617-906-66-6638.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Leave me a voicemail. Send me a text. Talk about whatever you want to talk about. I want to hear what disgrace land episodes you want to hear. I still want to hear about your favorite musical tributes to musical artists. to musical artists.
Starting point is 00:27:30 We can still talk death songs, if that's your vibe. 617-906-66-66-38, voicemail and text. A couple DMs here. All right, this message comes from Ily Ordez on Disgraceland. I appreciate her DMs.
Starting point is 00:27:48 She's very thoughtful. She says, been thinking about a burning question for you and fellow discos. Now that the series on Wu-Tang is over, who is your favorite member, your favorite album theirs, or of Wu-Tang Clan as a whole.
Starting point is 00:27:59 What was the fun fact that Jake taught us about them that we didn't already know? Well, I love this. Yeah, I mean, my favorite, method man, but Ellie wants to know your favorite. So let us know, 617-906-66-6638. Hit me up at Discreased Lamppod on Instagram, Twitter. I'm running out of time.
Starting point is 00:28:20 Facebook X. Sorry, I said Twitter. I meant X. Wherever, you know how to get in touch. All right. You know how to get in touch. in a moment with some recommendations. There's two golden rules that any man should live by.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends... Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist.
Starting point is 00:29:08 I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Your husband is not who you think he is. Your body is not what you thought it was. Your identity is formed by a secret history. I'm Danny Shapiro, and these are just a few of the stunning stories I'll be exploring
Starting point is 00:29:50 on the 14th season of Family Secrets. And just then, we felt the plain turn in the air, so much so that the bags that were under people's seats just kind of flew into the aisle. Each week, we dive head first into the complex power of secrecy, how it shapes our identities and relationships, and how it ultimately can reveal to us our truest selves. My daughter, she's pretending she doesn't know, but is trying to cook and feed me and keep me alive because I wasn't eating anything. And me pretending like everything was fine. He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move.
Starting point is 00:30:24 And he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off. And that was the last time I saw him. Listen to season 14 of Family Secrets, starting May 7th on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some. fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When like young people come up to me and they want to be an act or whatever, and my first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? Rather be disappointed in.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Do that. Dennis Leary. I wake up and I'm hitting him in the head with a water bomb. And Bruce Jenner is on the aisle in a karate stance like he's about to attack me. Like making karate noises. And his entire the Kardashian family over there. Everybody's going, and the air marshal is trying to grab my arms and screaming. I immediately know that I've been asleep walking.
Starting point is 00:31:20 David O'Yellowo. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Guy Branham. So anyway, Nicole Kidman broke up with Keith Thurban. Being half of a country couple was always a hat she was going to wear, not like a life she was going to lead. Oh, interesting. I like that. Did you practice that on your way over?
Starting point is 00:31:46 Gaten Madarazzo from Stranger Things. Tanya Monsu. Camilla Marone, Carrie Kenny Silver, and more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, we are back.
Starting point is 00:32:10 I want to get into some recommendations here. I want to talk about you two first and some YouTube related content that I want you guys to go, or I just want to recommend. to you guys to go check out. First of all, check out the song, Exit. It's not a known song. It's on the Joshua Tree. It wasn't a hit by any means, but it is the centerpiece of our latest episode on YouTube. So go check that song out after you listen to the episode or before, whenever. And then
Starting point is 00:32:37 I came across this nugget this morning when putting my thoughts together for this after party. There is an incredible, incredible concert movie. It's a stretch. It's produced in a very cheesy way. And it's about this festival that took place in 1983 called the Us Festival, which was a major concert somewhere in, I believe, Northern California that was put together by Steve Wozniak, who I believe at the time just made a boatload of money from Apple. He was the co-founder of Apple with Steve Jobs. So he puts on this festival that's, you know, kind of like this early 80s. answer to Woodstock. And that's not doing it justice. There's this whole like utopian idealism thing that's behind it, which is admirable of Wozniak, the bands. Okay, let's talk about the bands.
Starting point is 00:33:26 The headliner Stevie Nix, uh, directly under her is triumph. And then supporting triumph and Stevie Nix solo is U2. This is like, uh, under the blood red sky era U2. I think it's, uh, it's definitely pre-Joshua tree. It's U2 on the ascent. They're definitely stripped down at this point. The show is stripped down. They're very much still repping this kind of like clash style on stage. It's amazing how much they took their style from the clash as I'm watching this. But it's a really cool moment in time.
Starting point is 00:34:04 And it's produced in a super cheesy way, which lends to the awesomeness of it. The whole thing is only like 45 minutes long, the actual film here, quote unquote film. But it's this nerdy 80s, again, Californian music festival out in the middle of nowhere. And it is just like, it's all these nerds because it's this Apple, like Northern California. Again, I think Northern California thing. A bunch of nerds. And then just it's weirdly, highly sexualized. I can't really explain it.
Starting point is 00:34:39 It's just like you got to go watch it. It's 1983. and it's just, like I said, weirdly sexualized. And the artists are incredible. Even the artists, even Berlin is, I was just like, wow, fucking Berlin, laying it down. But the YouTube performance is incredible. And the whole thing, just as a piece of content is worth checking out. It's fucking weird as all hell.
Starting point is 00:35:02 You'll dig it. I think I got it on Apple. It's probably on YouTube as well. It's the Us Festival. Okay? And it's kitsy and it's cool and it's weird. But it just sent me to go watch Rattle and Huff. which I'd never really watched intentionally before.
Starting point is 00:35:16 In Rattle & Hum, I think it's one of the best concert slash studio films that I've ever seen. The opening is incredible. The whole helter-skelter, Charles Manson thing, you know, Bono, the first thing you hear, you see Bono on stage, and he gives that famous line. Charles Manson stole this song from the Beatles and we're stealing it back. And just like, you know, I remember when I first heard that line, I was just like, wow, it's fucking cool. You know, just such a cool line. I'm like, wait a minute, who gave Bono the authority to steal on behalf of the Beatles? But either way, it's just, it's just, it sounds awesome, it looks awesome.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Those guys rehearsing in that giant cavernous train station or wherever they're set up in Dublin or wherever they are, just really incredible. And these guys, you two at the time of Rattle and Hum, they're on a fucking heater songwriting-wise. Okay, if you look at the songs from the Joshua Tree to Rattle and Hum, with or without you, I still haven't found. what I'm looking for, where the streets have no name and God's country, Bullet the Blue Sky, great song. All right, those are from Joshua Tree. Followed up on Rattle and Hum with Desire, Angel of Harlem, when love comes to town, just great songwriting. Incredible, incredible, songwriting. If you haven't seen Rattle and Hum, if you haven't ever really given it the time, because it's just you two into this big, big pop band that you haven't been interested in in the past,
Starting point is 00:36:37 I highly recommend you go check this out. Great, great document, great movie, great film, concert film, studio film, it's kind of both. Check it out. Also, okay, anyone, listen, who knows anything about the artist Mark Allman? Okay, 70s, I believe, kind of jazz, kind of folk. I know nothing. Okay, Spotify served me up a song by Mark Allman called The City, and I became obsessed with it, and I created a playlist from that song, and then I became obsessed with this entire style of music, which I don't even know how to explain. It's weird 70s a.m., but also kind of jazz. It's just weirdly fusion as well.
Starting point is 00:37:18 And I'm at the record store the other day, my local record store, and I'm going through the bin. And there's like seven mark album, not seven. There's like five Mark Almond albums. An artist I've never heard of before. And the one with the song that I'm obsessed with, the city is sitting right there for me. So, of course, I copped it.
Starting point is 00:37:34 And I went, you know what? I'm going to go home. I'm going to look this guy up, see what he's all about. And then I thought, no, I'm not going to do that. I'm going to do this old school analog way through my podcast, this digital medium. I'm going to ask the disgrace land listeners, the smart disgrace land listeners, what they know about this artist Mark Allman.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Hit me up 617-906666638 and let me know. All right. Those are the recommendations. Let's go to the rewind. I mentioned it before. We're doing these rewind episodes now on Friday. This Friday, tomorrow, the sublime episode is coming. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:04 originally released by us on February 8th, 2002 as part of season 9. It's been exclusive in the Amazon archive. It is coming out in the world for everybody to hear. And we're doing it now because it was around this time in November back in 1995 that Sublime decided to get revenge on a, call it a subpar dining experience at a Denny's in Portland.
Starting point is 00:38:29 And that's a big part of the episode here. But just a couple quick notes on this Rewind episode of Sublime. I just want to say if you haven't heard this episode, go check it out. It's one of those episodes I did specifically for you guys. Sublime was one of those bands that you guys requested early on and kept requesting and requesting and requesting. I'd never been a Sublime fan. I didn't really see any true crime there to get into that would have given me a hook into the story. But I did the episode anyways specifically for all y'all who requested it.
Starting point is 00:38:56 And I'm pretty proud of what we came up with here in the process. And, you know, in that process, I kind of became a fan of the band, or at least of Brad Noel, Bradley Noel, excuse me, and his incredible voice, just a great fucking singer, great voice that dude. So if you have heard the Sublime episode, you know, thanks. Check it out again. It's available for you. If you have not heard of it and you love Sublime or you even don't love Sublime, you just
Starting point is 00:39:21 want some new disgrace land content, it's coming. It's available for you. Check that out. 61790666-6638 voicemail and text at Disgracelam pod on the social's disgracelam pod at gmail.com to let me know what disgrace land subjects you want to hear next. I'm going to take a quick break back in a flash with the recap. All right. We are back again. Let's recap this, shall we? Number one, right now on your feed, a brand new episode on YouTube. Number two, coming tomorrow, a rewind episode on Sublime, previously exclusive episode that we are finally releasing back into the
Starting point is 00:40:05 wild. Number three, over in the Badlands Feed, we've got a brand new episode on Phil Hartman, and I promise you it is not what you think it's going to be. Number four, next week in the Disgraceland feed a brand new episode on Blondie. Five, my number, 617-906-66-66-36-3-8, call me on the telephone or text me. Number six, remember no one cares about the music that you love more than you do, and well, that's a disgrace. All right, my moment of bliss in honor of this week's rewind episode on Sublime, who, 28 years ago this month in 1995, made a, let's say, nasty deposit from their motorhome
Starting point is 00:40:37 into the back of a Denny's in Portland, Oregon. I am going to read to you the phone book from Portland, Oregon, circa the mid-90s. Huddick, Joseph, 2318 Northeast, 105th, 257-3366. Huddick, Clyde, 13149 Southeast Sherman, 2577624. Hudditz, George, 2031 Southeast 41, 21st, 236-159. Huddie, P, 236-7-411. Hudkins, Glenn and Janine. 2249 Northeast 169.
Starting point is 00:41:19 2564099. Huddle, John, 646, North Hade and Bay Drive. 283, HUD70. 4-2-5-2-Hodguddle. Robert James, 292, 1570. And start mixing. When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist, They take matters into their own hands.
Starting point is 00:41:58 I vowed. I will be his last target. He is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves. We always say that trust your girlfriends. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Your husband is not who you think he is.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Your body is not what you thought it was. Your identity is formed by a secret. history. I'm Danny Shapiro, and these are just a few of the stunning stories I'll be exploring on the 14th season of Family Secrets. He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move, and he went out the front door, and he jumped in a car and drove off, and that was the last time I saw him. Listen to Season 14 of Family Secrets, starting May 7th on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests, like Amelia Clark.
Starting point is 00:42:58 When, like, young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever. And my first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? Rather be disappointed in. Do that. David O'Yelloo. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Dennis Leary, Gait and Moderato from Stranger Things. Tena Mongeau.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Camilla Morone. Carrie Kenny Silver. and more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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