DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode - More Sports, Celebrity Politics, and Diddy's New Digs

Episode Date: November 14, 2024

This week in the After Party, Jake wonders about celebrities and the sincerity of their political convictions and hears more from you on great sports cities and films. As we ready next week's episode on actor Woody Harrelson and the possible connection between his father and the assassination of John F. Kennedy, we want to know: what's your take on the JFK assassination? Who do you think killed President Kennedy? Let Jake know at 617-906-6638, [e-mail], or on socials @disgracelandpod.For more great Disgraceland episodes, dive into our extensive archive, including such episodes as:Episode 179 - R. KellyEpisode 125 - The MC5Episode 87 & 88 - Fleetwood MacTo hear an extended version of the After Party and to hear more from the DISGRACELAND community, become a Disgraceland All Access member at disgracelandpod.com/membership.Visit www.disgracelandpod.com/merch to see the latest Disgraceland merch!Sign up for our newsletter and get the inside dirt on events, merch and other awesomeness - GET THE NEWSLETTERFollow Jake and DISGRACELAND:InstagramYouTubeX (formerly Twitter) Facebook Fan Group To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Your identity is formed by a secret history. I'm Danny Shapiro, and these are just a few of the stunning stories I'll be exploring on the fourth. 14th season of Family Secrets. He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move. And he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off. And that was the last time I saw him. Listen to season 14 of Family Secrets, starting May 7th on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Hey, Discos. Need a little more disgrace land in your life? Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the After Party. Welcome to the disgrace land bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the after party.

This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of disgrace land to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. On this bonus episode, we are talking about this week's subject of the disgrace land full episode, Aaliyah. We're also talking about the difference between M&M, Megan the Stallion and Oprah Winfrey with the MC5, Paul Newman, and Fleetwood Mac. and of course we are diving into your voicemails, texts, and more. And as always, a whole lot of rosy.

All right, discos, let's get into it. R. Kelly married Alia at 15 years old. Sean Cones, Sean Diddy Combs, along with a bunch of other A-list musicians, continued to work with R. Kelly after this illegal marriage became common knowledge. Because Sean Combs, like Jay-Z, like Lady Gaga, like Mariah Carey celebrities, excuse me, musicians who worked with R. Kelly after 1995, after the news of his marrying a 15-year-old broke, after the open secret went through the music industry, that the reason that R. Kelly, well, you can listen to the full episode, that the reason

that R. Kelly had to marry Alia at 15 was because, well, you can listen to the full episode if you haven't already. Anyways, these musicians, again, Sean Combs, Jay-Z, Lady Gaga, Mariah Carey, continued to work with the pedophile R. Kelly because, I don't know, I don't know why. Greed, maybe, at a minimum, very loose sense of right or wrong, to put it mildly, to put it another way, these mainstream A-list celebrities are complete and total frauds. I am shocked at my ability to continue to be shocked by this celebrity ridiculousness. M&M, $1.8 million. Lizzo, $3 million. Megan the Stallion, $5 million. Those are the fees that these artists charged the Kamala Harris team to perform at campaign events leading up to the election last week. Not only did these artists perform,

okay, they lectured all of us on the imminent collapse of democracy. if Kamala Harris didn't win. I don't know about you, but if I thought that we were facing an existential threat and someone asked me to help out the cause, I wouldn't charge the millions of dollars to do so. I'm laughing now, but I'm really pissed. Okay? Oprah Winfrey is a billionaire, a billionaire. Let me re-state that. Oprah Winfrey is a billionaire three times over. She's worth $3 billion. She is the richest black woman on the planet. She is the richest black woman in the history of the world. And wait for it, she charged Kamala Harris a million dollars to sit down and talk to her for a televised event. Since this news broke a couple days ago, when the Harris

campaign announced they spent a billion dollars in their losing effort and they still ended up $20 million in debt. Hmm, I'm wondering, where might they, uh, could have saved $20 million M&M, Megan the Stallion, Lizzo, Oprah, Katie Perry, lady fucking Gaga for Christakes, John Bon Jovi. This is so disgusting. Anyway, since the campaign spending came out a couple days ago, Oprah in her defense has since made a statement saying that she didn't actually make the million dollars that it

went to her production team, Harpo Productions. And I don't doubt that. but to which i say Oprah babe you insufferable disingenuous fraud you are worth three billion dollars take one for the team for Christ's sakes suck up the million in production costs which by the way I guarantee you it didn't actually cost a million dollars those people are on staff okay you're paying them anyways and yes you have extra cost for the production but it's all production it's all part of the gig it's sunk costs shell out the mill you don't even have to shake you don't have to shake You don't have to go in your pocket for it. It's in your business. You're spending the money anyways, okay? You have to charge a million dollars. Do you know how many votes a million dollars can help you generate when it comes to phone

banks or getting out the vote? I don't actually know, but I know that it's a lot. This is historically dumb. Beyonce, $10 million reportedly, okay? $10 million. to show up, not even to perform, to give a speech, just to show up, just to show up and talk. Now, I don't know how real that $10 million number is based on the sourcing that I've seen, but I guarantee you, Beyonce did not do it for free, and I guarantee you that she didn't come cheap.

I said it before, historically stupid. I can't get over how dumb this is, how dumb it is for these artists to take money out of the campaign coffers in such a tightly contested race when every single penny matters. Now, it's not just their fault. It's the campaign's fault as well for thinking that celebrity endorsements matter in 2024. Or if they ever mattered, I don't know. They clearly didn't this year. And I don't think they're ever going to again.

But most of the blame here should be directed at these artists. What do you think the MC5 got paid for playing the 1968 Democrat National Convention? mention. I know they didn't play it for the Democrats, but they played it for a cause. And what do you think they got paid? What do you think Frank Sinatra charged John F. Kennedy for recording the 1960 campaign theme song? Was Paul Newman charging Eugene McCarthy for his stump speeches supporting the anti-Vietnam war candidate in 1968? How much did Fleetwood Mac Pocket from lending Don't Stop to the Clinton Gore campaign so the baby boomers could feel all gooey about voting George H.W. Bush out of office? I can tell you, they made bupkis. They did it.

because they sincerely believed in the words that were coming out of their mouth holes. Okay? Those artists believed in their politics. Not like today. Our American politics today have more in common with professional wrestling than they do with the pre-2000s political fights. And mostly it's all bullshit. Okay? It's all a bunch of crap as demonstrated by the greed of these celebrities.

Now, listen, conservative media ran this story during the campaign about how all the musicians and celebrities who were endorsing Kamala Harris were celebrities who are at Diddy's Freakoffs, Cardi B, Jennifer Lopez, Usher, and the insinuation was that these celebrities were being blackmailed into their support. Okay. Now, this is a very fun conspiracy and one that I'd be interested in if this news didn't break recently in the last few days about these celebrities, fleecing the Harris Walls campaign for millions that could have gone to the candidate's victory, the candidate they supposedly believed in. It wasn't fear of being outed for embarrassing or bad behavior at Sean Combs's house.

It was just straight up greed. Now, I'm disappointed for a lot of reasons. But I'm mainly disappointed because the reality here is far less interesting from my standpoint than the conspiracy. I wish these celebrities were supporting a political candidate because they were being black, because that's an incredible story. But again, no, just greed, fucking boring greed. Greed is less interesting, but it isn't less angry. The lesson I have to remember here as a middle-aged man, the lesson is a lesson that I learned when I was a teenager. And it's that establishment, mainstream celebrities are completely full of shit, and they exist only to keep themselves

firmly ensconced in the establishment. Punk rock taught me that, and it's a truism that has never let me down, and I will believe it until I die. Why anyone on any side of the political spectrum will put their faith in a celebrity, much less an establishment celebrity, is beyond me. Now, if you're one of these people, I'm telling you, stop. Here's your proof right here. These people, People don't care about you. They are vapid and soulless, and they don't care about us. They don't care about me. They don't care about you.

They don't care about their country. They don't care about your favorite politician. Their status is all they care about. Their status is all that matters. And the money is part of that status. When they can combine both by supporting what they believe to be the winning team and get paid millions of dollars in the process and they're winning, coming and going. We're the losers for.

believing in them, for believing in these celebrities, because at the end of the day, they're just as greedy and dishonest as the politicians that they're supporting. Now, on to the grand pooh-bah of celebrity grossness, Sean Combs. Here's the news from this week. First, on the disgrace land front, I'm halfway through writing a new full episode on Sean Combs, and I've never written an easier episode in my life, okay? I've also never been more horrified. Seriously, this episode deals mostly with Diddy's violent relationship with Cassie Ventura that we've all seen unfold on television. We've seen the video, but there is so much more to it. A lot of the details that are going to be in this episode, they're coming straight from the indictment, okay?

The first indictment, the Cassie Ventura indictment that Sean Combs paid his way out of. It reads like its own true crime novel. And researching that I'm in the research that I've been doing, I'm also starting to see how all All the events in Sean Combs' life line up over multiple episodes, potential disgrace land episodes, and I'm stoked to write and record these for you. I'm going to pepper them in throughout the year. We're not going to do like 10 in a row or anything like that. But they'll all be of a piece.

And you're going to see that the details here, though these details are all readily available right now on the internet, they're so shocking that the media isn't giving them a lot of light. Okay? So that's what I'm here for, to bring you these shocking details, to bring them to the surface with as much dramatic audio storytelling possible. I'm stoked for you guys to hear this first episode. It's going to be our first episode of the new year, actually. Okay, we got a bunch of great stuff coming before then. We got a themed episodes coming next week, which I'll talk about in a bit. We've got some Thanksgiving themed episodes coming later in the month and, of course, some Christmas

stuff coming, new and old that I'm psyched to be bringing you. But the ditty stuff next year, buckle up. It's going to be incredible. I'm going to be giving you some details, some new details, actually on Diddy that broke this week this morning, actually, in the all-access portion of this after-party coming up. But first, just a quick note on next week's episode, okay? I just alluded to this. Next week is the third week of November, a week that looms darkly every year, as this was the week, President John F. Kennedy was assassinated.

I'm obsessed. As you guys know, I'm obsessed with this topic. We're releasing into the feed next week our episode on Woody Harrelson. Yes, true detective Woody. Cheers, Woody. White men can't jump, Woody. And in Woody's story, we get into the story of his father. Okay. For those of you who don't know, it is, and it has been suspected for years, that Woody's dad was one of the three gunmen on the grassy knoll, the day they gunned down, our last disruptive commander-in-chief, John F. Kennedy. Woody's dad was arrested that day,

again, on the grassy knoll, and there's a lot of validity to the theory involving his father. So when you're listening to this episode, I want you guys to be thinking about all you know about the JFK assassination. I want to hear from you for next week's question of the week what your theories are on who killed JFK and why. Now Trump says he's really going to release the files, the JFK files this term. So this could be fun. Okay. We can create a permanent record here of what the theories are, what you guys think, who you think killed JFK. And then assuming we actually find out we can go back and we can roll the tape and we can we can see who was right who was wrong we can piece it all together and i promise it'll be more interesting than uh al capone's tomb than the revealing of uh bob woodward's

deep throat um i think this is a really fascinating exercise that we can all sort of be part of um in the real in real time as it pertains to the historical record super interesting to me and i think you guys are interested in this as well so witty harrowie harrell on Tuesday, along with his dad, on the grassy Noel, your thoughts on who killed JFK. I can't wait to hear them and talk about them with you next week in the after party. And we're also going to have a JFK related

rewind episode next week as well. But that's next week, like I said, for now, a quick break, then your voicemails, texts, and more back in a flash. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes.

And rule two, Never mess with her friends either. We always say that, trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends, Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me?

The cops didn't seem to care, so they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Each week, we dive headfirst into the complex power of secrecy, how it shapes our identities and relationships, and how it ultimately can reveal to us our truest selves. My daughter, she's pretending she doesn't know, but is trying to cook and feed me and keep me alive because I wasn't eating anything, and me pretending like everything was fine. He kind of showed me out of the way and said, move. And he went out the front door and he jumped in a car

and drove off and that was the last time I saw him. Listen to season 14 of Family Secrets, starting May 7th on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, you guys don't want to talk about Alia and the greatest female R&B singers of all time, presumably because the answer is Amy Winehouse and it's not even worth debating. See what I did there.

But judging from your calls and your text, the subject of greatest sports town and greatest sports movie, a question that arose in last week's after party, those questions are far more interesting to you guys. So me being a man of the people without further ado, here is Beth in the 313. Hey, Jake, it's Beth from Detroit. Detroit Rocks. Detroit Tigers 24, Detroit Lions, Detroit Red Wings, even the Pistons when they're on. Detroit is an awesome, awesome, awesome sports town. Beth, loved Bill Lambere. I can't lie. And I love Jim Layland, ripping heaters, smoking his butts on the bench.

And I'm kind of pulling for the Detroit Lions to get a Super Bowl one of these days. So there you go. Detroit Rock City. All right. Let's check out Barry in the 904. What is up? Barry from the 904 too much to text. I'll go through this quickly.

I hate to admit it, but L.A. has to be probably the world's greatest sports town. Definitely America, but possibly the world's. You have the football, NFL football out there. You have UCLA and USC, UCLA with their... You know, they have a football history, but also a basketball history. Of course, USC with their football history, you have hockey, the L.A. Kings. You have two basketball teams, one, like a global franchise, the Lakers and the Clippers and their shit. The Dodgers, who reached on the World Series, the Los Angeles, Anaheim, Angels of Anaheim of the world.

What did I miss? So you got all the major sports. you have awesome college sports there. And they hosted the Olympics. So, yeah, probably one of the world's greatest sports cities, as much as it pains me to admit it. That's all for me, Jake. Thanks for the Poultergeist episode.

And thank you so much. I'm so, so waiting to hear about the 1986 New York Mets. My sons are met friends from Jersey. I'm a brave fan from the Humble Town. of Albany, Georgia. But looking forward to it, man. Thanks, Jay. Barry, I hear you.

I hear you. I don't like it, but I hear you, okay? It's hard for me to get with Los Angeles. It's hard for me to get with L.A. Randy Newman aside. I was, of course, happy to see the Dodgers beat the Yankees. And I was talking to a Yankees fan the other night at my son's baseball game, and he was telling me that the Red Sox lent the Dodgers their plane to fly back with

after the championship or something like that. thought that was a classy move. Another sort of dagger in the heart of the Yankees. Also, regarding L.A., I guess gun to head, I don't know, man. I love those Lakers uniforms. It's weird as a Celtics fan. I don't know. I had those James Worthy sneakers growing up.

That might be part of it. But yeah, it would be interesting for someone to tally up the L.A. Championships versus the New York Championships. I don't think it comes close, even if you do include college championship. me in chips. I could be wrong, though. I don't know. I don't know. Barry, if you want to get into that exercise and hit me back, go for it. All right, 617-906-66-6-3-8. That's how you get in touch. That's how you leave me a voicemail. You know, the question of the week for next week. It's going to be, what are your thoughts on the JFK conspiracy who killed JFK? I want to know. Let's get it. Let's create a

record of it here in the after party in disgraceland. All right, 617-9066638. If you're shy, you don't want to leave a voicemail. Just send me a text, like the 9-1-1-6. Jake, when it comes to the greatest sports movies of all time, how can you not mention major league in the top 10? Like Caddyshack, so many one-liners from that, from that movie have been embedded into our culture. Just a bit outside. It's a brilliant underdog story that resonates now more than ever. A terrible owner tries to tank the team to move into Miami, build a mega stadium. It's kind of, it's kind of, you know, the same story of Slapshot. I mean, Not really, but kind of.

I mean, they definitely get in. I could see the writers of Major League seeing Slapshot and being like, oh, shit, I know what I need to do. Anyhow, yeah, I didn't mention Major League. I didn't not mention it on purpose. I love Major League. I really do. The Charlie Sheen character in particular is just hysterical. And Tom Berringer is one of the great assholes, like asshole characters in 1980s film.

I don't mean he's an asshole of a guy. I know nothing about Tom Barringer, but he just reminds me. those like super tough guys from my small town growing up who just always seemed to be pissed. They always drove trucks and they wore their baseball hats in a particular kind of way. Tom Barringer kind of embodies that for me and he really, really brings it to the forefront in Major League. Great movie. All right, this one comes from the 909. Hey, Jake, this is Luke. I've been sitting on a recommendation for a while. The 1919 Chicago White Sox, aka the Black Sox, is a story practically made for you. Keep up the great work. Also, separately, I just listened to the segment

in the after party where you talked about your 10 year old's baseball team. Youth sports, when done right, is one of the best things we have going in our communities. I hope you continue to enjoy the hell out of it. And if you haven't done it already, consider coaching a team. It's amazing. Luke, yeah, man, thanks for the recommendation. This has been on my radar, but not on my mind. And, you know, I've seen part of that John Q's. I, movie on the Black Sox. I can't remember what it's called. I need to figure this out and I need to watch it.

And I need to do an episode. You're right. Do you need to do an episode on the Black Sox? Maybe I'll do that for opening day of baseball next year. That's actually, I like that idea. We've already got our schedule pretty much set for next year, but I think I can slot that one in. Maybe Matt Bowden will allow it. Matt, if you're listening, and I know you are because you're editing this.

Think about that. Matt's a baseball fan. Maybe it'll happen. for coaching. I coached once. I coached my oldest son in T-ball. And I found that by not coaching, he was learning more. That was my theory anyways. And that held until this year. And I've got a new opinion. I have the opposite opinion, actually. So I'm considering it. I'm considering it for next year. We shall see. Thanks for the text. Luke. Appreciate you. 530 writes in, Hey, Jake Zach from the 530. Great episode on the Mets and

excellent read for the book club participants and baseball fans is Ron Darling's book, 108 stitches, loose threads, ripping yarns, and the darnest characters for my time in the game. Keep on keeping on. Thanks for the wreck, Zach. On the book club, we're going to have more on that in a little bit here. I think we're going to talk about it in the next segment. We've got a narrowed down to two books. And Zach, man, get in here. It's all women in the book club and me. I'm the only guy. So, yeah, come on. Get in. I'll have details in the next segment.

All right. Book clubs are going to be end of December, middle of December, something like that for the holiday craziness. I got to do one more text here. This one. Let's put a nail in the coffin here of the question of best sports town, which grew out of that Mets episode there, obviously. This one comes from my beloved 617. Hey, Jake, Rebecca from the 617, now the 605. Boston is Title Town.

During the 18 years I lived there, I saw nine championships and experience four in-person championship parades in the city. Cue the duckboats. City shuts down for our championships. Boston is the best and most hardcore fans of any city, and we like to brag about it. And you know what? Rebecca, you're not wrong. It's Boston. It's always been Boston.

There you go. 617-906-6638. A couple DMs at Disgraceland Pod on the old X-E. machine and Instagram and Facebook. So on X last night, this is unrelated to the question of the week, but I don't care. For some reason, my six-year-old is very interested in Big Star, and I'm not trying to be like, oh, my kid's so cool. It has just everything to do with the logo on the first album, the neon star. I think he's seen that on the stereo in the car, you know, and it shows you the sort of image of whatever the record's playing. So he's become obsessed with it, and it got me

to listening to a bunch of Big Star last night. I was having a good night, chilling out by the pool, listen to the Big Star. And I had this post, just a dumb post on TikTok, nothing groundbreaking at all. And I said, my head, quote, 13 is Big Star's best song. My heart, quote, have you heard September Girls? I love September Girls. And Jamie Smith wrote in, the Bengals cover of September Girls is great. And I'm reading this because, A, I had no idea that Bengals did a cover of Big Star, which is incredible. And I'm remembering now in reading this text, the Bengals cover of Paul Simon and Ark Garfunkel's Hazy Shade of Winter for the less than zero soundtrack, excellent soundtrack, by the way, Bengals, Slayer, Public Enemy. And it's got me thinking, have I not given enough

attention to the Bengals in my life? You know, are they like just a band that I wrote off as just this like girl group with a couple singles and not really worthy of exploring their catalog. And Jamie here on the old X machine has got me reconsidering my bangles take. I might need to go back. September Girls is an incredible song. So was 13. Big Star. My goodness.

Also on X, I bring this up because we had a little conversation. I'm not going to read the DMs here. We were talking about this movie that I watched last week called Out of the Blue. And I got to tell you guys about this movie because it's one of the best music movies. I've ever seen. It's directed by Dennis Hopper. Dennis Hopper stars in it. There's a really cool thing that happened with this movie. Now, give you the premise of this movie. And again, I learned a bunch of this on X in conversation with some of you. So if you're listening, thank you. But I want to share this

with the rest of you. This movie, okay, so Dennis Hopper was making this movie, not sure what it was supposed to be called, but it was supposed to be about a young girl who's going through a lot of troubles. She's seeing a therapist and I don't know what happens. But anyways, they get close to finishing the movie and the producers scrap it they see the dailies they hate it they don't want to finish it and denis hopper raises his hand and he's like i'll finish it i'll rewrite the whole thing and i'll direct it and the reason he did this and there was some insane time limit like he wrote the whole thing in a weekend and then they shot it over the course of a week or something like that they had to take advantage of the production they already had set up i think that's what was happening but the reason dennis hopper

does this i believe this is in like 1980 1979 something like that the reason that dennis hopper takes on this opportunity that arises for him is because he couldn't direct a movie to save his life. No one was going to let him direct a movie after the debacle of the last movie. If you don't know that story, it's basically Dennis Hopper's like the hottest actor on the planet because Easy Rider's huge and it changes Hollywood

and then they back up a truck full of money and they dump it on his head and he goes down to South America to make this movie. He ends up doing a bunch of cocaine. The movie's fucking awful. So after that, they're never going to let him do a movie again. And then he's on this indie, whatever. And like I said, it goes into the toilet.

and he takes the advantage of the opportunity to write it and direct it. Okay? Now, this movie, you can tell, it's fascinating to me. Again, I said it's one of the best music movies I've ever seen because Dennis Hopper was clearly influenced by punk rock when he made this movie and by Neil Young. And in particular, again, this movie's called Out of the Blue, in particular, the Hey, Hey, My, out of the blue and the black Johnny Rot and all that stuff. In particular, Neil Young's take on punk rock.

And you have this confluence of these two things of Neil Young, who at his soul is punk as fuck, but not part of that scene in any way. And he's commenting on the sex pistols. And he's commenting on punk rock in that tune. And then you have Dennis Hopper's take on all the punk that's going on in the world at the time as well. It's all, it all infuses this character. Dennis Hopper acts his ass off in this. The young woman in the lead role, Linda Mann's is just incredible. This movie, guys, out of the blue, if you can find it, I highly recommend it. Quick note on this, this apparently just went out of circulation. And back in like 2018, 2019, Chloe 70 and Natasha Leone, or Leone, excuse me, if I'm pronouncing her name wrong, the great actress from Slums of Beverly Hills and Orange is the New Black. They put together a GoFundMe, they crowdsour or something, they crowdsourced the restoration of this film. And they're the reason that we can now watch it.

And I understand why the female character at the center of this movie is one of the most badass characters I've ever seen in a movie. I'm not joking. That's not hyperbole. She is incredible. And wow, the ending. So go watch this. It's a tough watch, but it's an incredible watch out of the blue. Anyways, this all stemmed from a conversation we were having on X, and I thought I would bring it to the rest of you here.

at disgrace, Impot on X on Instagram, everywhere. 6179066638. I'll be back in Flash with your emails and some more right after this. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl.

You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield. And in this new season of The Girlfriends, Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck.

I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the Girlfriends.

Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Kate Winkler Dawson, host of the Wicked Words podcast. Each week I sit down with the true crime writers behind some of the most compelling true crime stories and discuss their years spent investigating

and why it still matters. He sees his father coming out of the woods with his hands over his face, and he knows something happened. His father just grabs him and says, she's gone, she's gone. These are the cases that leave, the survivors, families, and the journalists who cover them changed forever.

Working in national television, it'll push you to your limits, and you'll end up doing things you never thought you'd do. You know, you look back at it and you're like, I can't believe that really happened. Join me and step inside the investigation. New episodes drop every Monday on the Exactly Right Network. Listen to Wicked Words on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Your husband is not who you think he is. Your body is not what you thought it was. Your identity is formed by a secret history.

I'm Danny Shapiro, and these are just a few of the stunning stories I'll be exploring on the 14th season of family secrets. And just then, we felt the plain turn in the air, so much so that the bags that were under people's seats just kind of flew into the aisle. Each week, we dive head first into the complex power of secrecy. how it shapes our identities and relationships,

and how it ultimately can reveal to us our truest selves. My daughter, she's pretending she doesn't know, but is trying to cook and feed me and keep me alive because I wasn't eating anything, and me pretending like everything was fine. He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move. And he went out the front door, and he jumped in a car and drove off,

and that was the last time I saw him. Listen to season 14 of Family Secrets, starting May 7th on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you guys, get your podcasts. All right, guys, we are back. Disgracea Pod at gmail.com. You want to hit me up with anything. We got this email here. I appreciate this from Joel Gershyn, writes, and hey, love your podcast, but a couple things in the last episodes, regular listener here and native New Yorker who grew up in the 70s and 80s, and I flagged a couple things from the Mets episode. One, you said

the Yanks were from Manhattan. While I'm a Mets fan to the core and hate the Yanks, who are indeed the more upscale high-profile team, they are from the Bronx, not Manhattan. Okay, listen, I did say they're from Manhattan, and I should have qualified this in a different way. I don't disagree with the point that the emailer is making here. But what I meant by that is most Yankees fans are Manhattan fans. Most Mets fans are Queens, Long Island, et cetera. But I also say they're from the Bronx repeatedly. But still, I confuse the issue in the way that I described it in the episode.

And I deserve to take a little heat from it here. and I should probably go back and correct it. Number two, caller here, I'm sorry, the emailer here, Joel says, two, Donald Maines' last name was pronounced Mainis, not like you said it, which rhymes with Haynes. Okay, on that one, I am completely at fault, I guess, I'm taking your word for it, Donald Mainis. Now, I'm not going to go back and correct that,

because I say it's Dave like a thousand times. But I appreciate the correction here. Let's see here. What else does Jill say? On that note, if you have a need for another producer editor, I'm led to be part of the team because I love what you do and I'm obsessive-compulsive about this stuff. Appreciate you, Joel.

Perhaps, perhaps someday when we're expanding. We're not in an expansion mode at the moment. Disgraceampot at gmail.com. You guys want to hit me up. All right, this one comes from Lewis Gooding Fair, subject to Stranglers. Hey, Jake, love the show. I wondered if you could do an episode on The Stranglers.

Goes on to say, J.J. Brunel could be a bit of a menace and I know Hugh Cornwell got banged up for a bit. They did drugs for artistic purposes. To me, at the start, it sounded like pub rock and nasty psychedelia, which morphed into punk with keyboards. Any hoodles, keep up the good work. Muchos love, Louis. Louis, Lewis, I believe it's Louis. Louis, I don't know enough about the stranglers. That's a hole in my game. And maybe I'll take this recommendation as a way to solve that problem. Appreciate it. Guys, disgrace to on Pod at gmail.com you want to hit me up with any recommendations for future episodes. Those future episodes eventually end up being released through Apple Podcasts and Spotify. And some of you are gracious

enough to go on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and leave us a review. And we love that because the reviews help people discover the show. And in every after party bonus episode for all the new listeners out there who are here for the first time, I read a review. And if I read your review, then you hit me up. You hear your name. Your name. You're handle, you hit me up and I hook you up with some free merch. So this one comes via Apple podcast, Disgraceland, a review, five stars. A number of years back, I put out on my Facebook world asking for a recommendation of a podcast and a friend's wife suggested disgrace land. My husband and I have been dedicated listeners since. This podcast is well researched, eloquently written in Jake's voice,

Chef's Kiss. I highly recommend this podcast to anyone who loves music, movies, True Crime, or just enjoys great storytelling. Keep up the great work, Disgraceland team, and we will continue listening. I'd give more than five stars if that were an option so awesome listen that's from m schroeder m schroeder get in touch are you rickie's mom sister who are you m schroeder get in touch disgrace lamp pod at gmail dot com or just hit me up on x at disgracelam pod or on instagram at disgracelam pod riz over on spotify i like i like i like you comment i'm not going to read it i'm not going to read it on here just get in touch and uh you will get some merch. Same goes for you. Jason, who's talking to me on Spotify, in the review section and the comment section about Diddy's boyfriend? Hmm. Yeah. I don't want to go down the wormhole right here.

I want to keep it tight. Get in touch, guys, and I will send you some merch. And for anyone else, if you're interested in grabbing some free disgrace sland merch, not for everyone, but you know, if you leave a review and you get it read here, that's the best way to do it. All right, the book club. Listen, we're doing the book club. We're doing it sometime in December. I'm going to figure all the details this week. The date, how you can all join, especially those of you who aren't part of Patreon. And most important, what book we're going to read. We've got to figure it out because we've got about a month's time to do so.

And right now there are two main contenders. I'm going to talk about it here. And then I'm going to talk about it on social media today and tomorrow and in Patreon. And then we're going to come up with a final choice. So the two contenders that you guys have brought to the table, are perfidia by James Elroy, which I'm excited to read, and The Thin Man by Dashel Hammett. What a name, by the way, Dashel.

I really fucked up there. Maybe I'll have another kid just to name him Dashel. What do you think? Think my wife will go for that? I don't think so. Okay, so those are the two. Those are the two finalists there. We wanted to do something that was Christmassy.

Doesn't have to be explicitly holiday-themed or Christmas-themed, but something just kind of set in December during the holidays. Okay, so those are the two. Profidia by James Elroy and the Thin Man by Dashel Hammett. Again, we're going to decide this week on Patreon on social media. And we'll announce it and then we'll announce it in all those places. And then I'll get an email out next week with all the official info. And we'll talk about it again in the after party. Okay. So now's your time, guys. Hit me lobby for whichever one you want there, perfidia by James Elroy or the Thin Man by Dashel Hammett. Okay, this episode is nearing its end.

But the after party continues, as you know, for all of our all acts. members, which you can sign up for today. Go to disgracelandpod.com slash membership. You're going to get this extra added piece of the bonus episode. You're going to get ad-free listening, and you're going to get some community engagement, more community engagement than I do in other places. You're going to get that on Patreon. All right.

Back in Flash. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games. You get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her. friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield and in this new season of the girlfriends, oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same

prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Kate Winkler Dawson, host of the Wicked Words podcast. Each week I sit down with the true crime writers behind some of the most compelling true crime stories

and discuss their years spent investigating and why it still matters. He sees his father coming out of the woods with his hands over his face, and he knows something happened. his father just grabs him and says she's gone. She's gone. These are the cases that leave survivors, families, and the journalists who cover them changed forever. Working in national television, it'll push you to your limits and you'll end up doing things you never thought you do. You know, you look back at it and you're like, I can't believe that really happened.

Join me and step inside the investigation. New episodes drop every Monday on the Exactly Right Network. Listen to Wicked Words on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Your husband is not who you think he is. Your body is not what you thought it was. Your identity is formed by a secret history. I'm Danny Shapiro, and these are just a few of the stunning stories I'll be exploring on the 14th season of Family Secrets.

And just then, we felt the plain turn in the air, so much so that the bags are or under people's seats just kind of flew into the aisle. Each week, we dive headfirst into the complex power of secrecy, how it shapes our identities and relationships, and how it ultimately can reveal to us our truest selves. My daughter, she's pretending she doesn't know, but is trying to cook and feed me and keep me alive because I wasn't eating anything,

and me pretending like everything was fine. He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move. And he went out the front door, and he jumped in a car and drove off, and that was the last time I saw him. Listen to season 14 of Family Secrets starting May 7th on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, we are back. And on this episode, guys, we talked about R. Kelly. And of course, we have an R. Kelly episode.

It's in our archive. You guys know about the archive. You got to know about the archive. Come on. R. Kelly, episode 179, released on June 4th, 2024. We also mentioned the MC5 today, okay? That is episode. Our MC5 episode is in the archive.

number 125, released on April 11th, my grandmother's birthday, April 11th, 2003. She was born back in the other 20s, though. Okay, so we also mentioned Fleetwood Mac. Two episodes on the Mac, 87 and 88, September 14th, 2021, and September 28th, 2008, 2021, if you want to hear about a seven mile long line of cocaine. Get into those Fleetwood Mac archive episodes. So, anyways, thanks for the calls.

Thanks to the voicemails. Thanks for the reviews. get a jump. Before I do, let's recap. All right. Number one, right now, in your feed, our episode on Alia. Number two, coming tomorrow, a special rewind episode from our archive, and we're talking about Woody Harrelson in next week's episode and the question of the week. What's your take on the Kennedy conspiracy? Who killed JFK?

Let me know. Number three, merch winners, get in touch. You know who you are. Number four. Remember, no one cares about great storytelling more than you do. And well, that's a disgrace. Also, I said it last week. I'm going to say it again.

Love your neighbor. Your neighbor is not the enemy. They just might not agree with you, and that's okay. Grace, patience, peace, love, and understanding. All right, and honor of this week's episode, subject on Alia, me, reading you, the billboard charts from August 25th, 2001, the day Alia's plane went down. Number one, fallen. Alicia Keys. Last week, one.

Peak position. One. Weeks on chart. 11. Number two, I'm real. Jennifer Lopez featuring Jail Rule. Last week, four. Peak position, two, weeks on chart, eight.

Number three, let me blow your mind. Eve, featuring Gwen Stefani. Last week, two, peak position, two, weeks on chart, 18. Number four, hit them up style. Oops, six, blue can truck. Last week, three, peak position, last week, number five, weeks on.

Talking and start mixing. When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist, they take matters into their own hands. I vowed. I will be his last target. He is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves. We always say that trust your girlfriends. Listen to the girlfriends.

Trust me, babe. On the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcast. or wherever you get your podcast. This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When like young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever. My first thing is always,

can you think of anything else that you can do? You'd rather be disappointed in. Do that. David O'Yellowo. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction. or you just go straight for the guts. Dennis Leary, Gaten Matarazzo from Stranger Things,

Tana Monjou, Camilla Morone, Carrie Kenny Silver, and more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Your husband is not who you think he is. Your body is not what you thought it was. Your identity is formed by a secret history.

I'm Danny Shapiro, and these are just a few of the stunts. funny stories I'll be exploring on the 14th season of Family Secrets. He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move. And he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off. And that was the last time I saw him. Listen to season 14 of Family Secrets starting May 7th on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.