DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode: Music and Monsters

Episode Date: October 16, 2025

This week in the After Party, Jake is thinking about monsters – the fictitious kind and the kind that are all too real. Plus, we hear more spooky stories from you and get your recommendations on scary music. Next week we're bringing you an episode on Judas Priest and the Satanic Panic of the 1980s, and Jake wants to know: who is your favorite heavy metal band? Share your thoughts at 617-906 6638, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or on socials @disgracelandpod. For more great Disgraceland episodes, dive into our extensive archive, including such episodes as: Episode 89 - Black Sabbath Episode 24 - Spade Cooley Episode 22 - Big Lurch To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Your identity is formed by a secret history. I'm Danny Shapiro, and these are just a few of the stunning stories I'll be exploring on the 14th season of Family Secrets. He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move. And he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off. And that was the last time I saw him. Listen to Season 14 of Family Secrets, starting May 7th on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, Discos, need a little more disgrace land in your life? Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the after party. Welcome to the disgrace land bonus episode.

A little thing we like to call the after party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of disgrace sand to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. Our mission to uncover the truth, to confront the myth, to reclaim the story.

On this bonus episode, we are talking about our new episode on Houdini with the Red Hot Chili Peppers making an appearance. We're rewinding back to our Norwegian black metal and misfits episodes for the Halloween season. previewing next week's brand new episode on Judas Priest, talking about one of the worst humans ever right now,

a crap singer from a crap band, and we get into your voicemails, text, DMs, and as always, a whole lot of rosy. This is the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers, who know that the best history is the history that gets buried. Disgraceland is where I tell the stories they didn't want told, the kind you'll end up telling someone else.

All right, discos, let's get into it. All right, this prison, it holds criminals so notorious they call the prison the monster mansion. It's filled to the brim with predators, the worst of the worst, serial killers, cannibals, rapists. The criminals are too depraved to be held in general population. Yes, for fear of what they'll potentially do to others, but more out of fear of what will be done to them. Now, there's a hierarchy in all prisons, and England's monster mansion not only holds the worst of the worst, it also holds the lowest of the low. And this is where Lost Prophets ex-singer, the convicted pedophile Ian Watkins, was murdered last week. On the morning of October 11th, as the cell doors were unlocked and the prisoners were allowed to move about, Two prisoners ambushed Ian Watkins in his cell. One of them stabbed Watkins in the neck with a shank, reportedly hitting his jugular.

Blood went everywhere, spewed violently, quickly covered the cell. The alarms blared and for a minute, chaos ensued before guards got controlled the situation. The bloodshed was described. by a source on the scene as horrific with blood everywhere and that the event was, quote, shocking, even by prison standards. The 47-year-old Ian Watkins was quickly pronounced dead. His two attackers were apprehended. His fans, his groupies, yes, he still has groupies, even young ones who still correspond with him in prison.

his ex-bandmates and his victims, we haven't heard from any of them. Aside from a fairly narcissistic ex-post from lost profits guitarist, we gaze, using this occasion of Ian Watkins' death to lament the downfall of their band from 13 years ago, due to, of course, Ian Watkins' depraved crimes. In 2013, Watkins pleaded guilty to attempted rape and sexual assault of a child under 13. He also pleaded guilty to three counts of sexual assault involving children, to six counts of taking, making, or possessing, indecent imagery, and one count of possessing an extreme pornographic image involving a sex act on an animal.

one of this dude's victims was a two-year-old boy, a two-year-old boy, the son of one of his girlfriends, a woman that the singer once texted saying, quote, if you belong to me, so does your baby, unquote. Let that sink in. There's been a reason that I haven't covered this story. A lot of you have written me before. I get an email about that. this every couple months or so and have for years and i i hate this shit i really do and it's um it's so dark it's so depraved that um you know i've done uh i've done similar episodes in the past as you know on some really dark stuff and you know when you're researching it you're just in it in your fucking head man it's like uh it takes a beating your soul takes a beating it's it's it's

tough for me, and I know everybody's different, it's tough for me to have my head in places like this, deeply in places like this for long periods of time. And, you know, for some, it's not. And, you know, it's funny. I was, I got this buddy who's an ex-New York City cop. And I was talking to him a couple weeks ago. And he was just, you know, I asked him, you know, we're at a party. And and things had kind of lightened up and we were getting, then we were getting heavy on some stuff. And I asked him about some of the worst things that he'd seen when he was a cop in New York. He retired very young.

And, you know, I'm not going to repeat what he told me, but the fact that this guy's not traumatized by it is just, it's astonishing to me that some people can compartmentalize these types of experiences, this type of information, and again, everybody deals with it differently. And a lot of you have asked me to cover this horrific story, and I haven't done it. I was planned on doing it, though. And I'm now going to for sure, now that there's a real ending here, I'm going to get into it. But it's so dark. And especially that quote gives you a taste of how dark it is. If you belong to me, so does your baby. Just a special kind of...

of evil. During the investigation into Ian Watkins's crimes, authorities got a hold of his laptop. And they figured out that his login password was, I fuck kids. I mean, a senior investigator assigned to Watkins' case said that Ian Watkins was, quote, potentially the most dangerous sex offender

he'd ever seen. I mean, I don't know how I'm going to tell this story, but I'm going to. I want to know more about why he was killed. There's no word yet on why Ian Watkins was murdered. Now, many are assuming that it's prison justice. It's back to what I was saying earlier about the hierarchy in prison, convicts cleaning out the lowest of the low from among their ranks. However, in 2023, not that long ago, a couple inmates took Ian Watkins hostage in jail and beat and tortured him for six hours.

Now, this had nothing to do reportedly about Ian Watkins' crimes, the crimes that led him to jail, the abuse. It was reportedly over a drug debt. Ian Watkins was an addict. He's got a lot of experience in not a jail with drugs. So I don't know why he was killed. I don't think anyone does right now as of the recording of this episode, but we're going to find out. And we're going to do an episode on this. And we're going to find a way to do it that isn't completely sensationalized.

And it gets to the evil at the heart of this singer from the band Lost Prophets. Details are still emerging from this case. you know, as we get them in, we'll start putting this together, putting the research together on, like I said, Ian Watkins from Lost Profits, Disgraceful Crimes in a Full episode soon. This is one of those stories, as I mentioned, many of you have recommended even before Ian's death. And there's, of course, a lot about this story that is hard to digest. But I don't know. I just, I believe it's important to cover the worst of the worst.

And this is one of those reminders this Halloween season that true monsters walk among us. Ian Watkins from Lost Prophets is about as disgraceful a musician that I've come across in all of my years doing this. He deserves a special place in whatever the hall of disgrace is. He's up there with the worst of the worst, like I said, up there with the spade coolies, big lurch. truly a bad, bad man, an absolute monster. And that's, you know, that's part of the whole, this whole season, this whole Halloween thing that we're doing. There's the fun side of it.

There's the sort of comic book side of it, the Freddie Kruger, Jason Voorhe's side of it. And then there's the real evil side of it. And we know what side of the street the scene, walking story is on. I want to kind of slowly start to turn the ship now. toward the more fun side of the street here because, you know, it's just a better hang. Like I said, monsters, this guy was a monster, monsters, they come in all shapes and sizes, the real life monsters like Ian Watkins and the make-believe kind, the less literal, the more literary types of monsters. It happened to me be more fun when this month rolls around, the ones in our fiction in the horror

movies that we watch. And yes, in the songs that we listen to, especially during the Halloween season. Now, this has been a big topic around here, these parts. Scary music, spooky music, I should say. We did a bunch on it last week. We're going to take a different road into that subject today, similarly, but not that different, but not exactly the same either. Kind of running with this theme of this monster theme here.

Zeth and I will be ticking through some music recommendations of our favorite monster. songs in the exclusive section of this episode in a bit. And I promise you that our recommendations will be tunes that you've likely never heard. We're not going to be recommending the Monster Mash or Godzilla by Blue Oyster Colt, even though I love both of those songs. You're going to be getting tunes that will make great additions to your October listening routine. And like I said, it'll be real monster fair, both literal and literary, okay? Tunes that you're not going to get anywhere else tunes that will pull on your gen x heartstrings okay tunes that will make you long for an era long gone

an era you're either part of a missed dearly or missed and want to feel like uh you were there and want to live in it 90s era monster music recommendations that's what i'm talking about songs about the worst to the worst from the 1990s coming up in the exclusive section of this after party but you got to be an all access member to listen that's currently just $5 a month to become a member on Apple Podcasts or Patreon, less if you nab that Patreon promotion that's currently running. And reminder, this $5 a month cost is going up in a couple weeks. So get in at just $5 a month now, why you can. And not only to have extra content like this, but also add free listening.

All right, I'm going to take a break and I'll be back in a flash with your voicemails, text, and emails. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends... Oh my God, this is the same man.

A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit here. by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Kate Winkler Dawson, host of the Wicked Words podcast. Each week I sit down with the true crime writers behind some of the most compelling true crime stories and discuss their years spent investigating and why it still matters.

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And now we're arguing about movies on our podcast, Dear Movies I Love You, from the Exactly Right Network. Can I say something about the Criterion Clause? Go ahead, dude. They're letting too many people in there. Okay, that's another film, Great By Got Two. Sadly, that rental place doesn't exist anymore. It's probably a store that sells running shoes. Or an ice cream shop with an extra pee and an E at the end.

So consider us your slacker movie clerks in podcast form. I would like to establish a timeline of the moment you figured out who Channing Tatum was. Every Tuesday, we dig into the movies we can't stop obsessing over, from hidden gems to big screen favorites. New episodes drop every week on the exactly right network. Listen to Dear Movies I Love You on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yes, yes, yes. Welcome back. Welcome back. Welcome back. week, if you've been dialed into your disgrace land feed, you heard our episode on Houdini with a freaky, styly guest appearance by the Red Hot Chili Peppers, and an exclusive mini episode

on Slipknot's experience in the same haunted Houdini home. Patreon and Apple subscribers, they got the mini up, did you? All right, coming up next. After this episode, we are continuing a romp toward all Hallows Eve with classic creepy, Crawley Rewind episodes this week on the Norwegian Black metal scene and also on one of the greatest bands to ever do it, The Misfits. Next week, coming at you, those leather-clad Birmingham defenders of the faith, the mighty Judas Priest. Our new episode on Priest, the band's origins, the relationship to the whole satanic panic thing that overtook North America in the 80s, how the band got roped into that disgraceful PMRC dealio with Tipper Gore and the suicide pack lawsuit that threatened to ruin the band. That and and a whole lot of hot.

leather daddy action that you're not going to want to miss in our next episode on Judas Priest coming up next week in your disgrace land feed. Now, when you're listening to this episode on Priest, I want you to be thinking about, well, this is an easy one. I want to know who, in your opinion, is the greatest metal band of all time. And I want to know why. Okay, Judas Priest, part of the first generation of great metal bands, along with Black Sabbath. And this episode deals with the question of who the greatest metal icons. Who were they? Judas Priest, in my estimation, is definitely one of them, but are they the best? Are they better than Black Sabbath? Can he give it to them over Black Sabbath? I don't know.

Yeah, we'll talk about it more next week. 617-906-66-36-38. Call me, send me a text, leave me a voicemail, and let me know who your metal icons are. And, you know, why you love them, what they do for you, how they make you feel, how they make you feel, you relate to their music, their lyrics, their heaviness, how these bands, these artists compel you. I want to know heavy music. I have a special place in my heart for heavy music, and I know a lot of you do as well. And even if you're just one of these fly-by-night heavy music fans, like whatever, like you're into what you're into and it's not heavy. And who gives a shit, right? Hollow notes is cool, even though they're not heavy metal, right? So you're at the football game or

whatever. And, you know, just that song comes on by Metallica or by, I don't know, I don't know, I mean, Ozzie, whoever it is, right? But it gets you going, right? Hockey fans, you know what I'm talking about. That audio slave song comes, I can't stand. I don't like audio slave, but if I'm at a Bruins game, an audio slave comes on, I'm like, all right, I'm listening. What's the music that does that for you?

The heavy music. Let me know, 617-906-66-38 voicemail and text. All right, speaking of calling me, I'm in the phone booth right now. It's the one across the hall. I'm hanging on the telephone, which means it's time to hear from you guys on last week's question of the week via your voicemail and text. And that question was, which songs spook you out? Which tunes give you the hebi-jeebies? What music is must listen for you around this particular time? This season, the spookiest time of year. The 5-2-0 writes in,

Hey, Jake, first time writing in, it's Halloween, so I haven't heard you even mentioned the genre of Psychobilly, the perfect mix of campy-spooky. Halloween rockabilly. Check out necromantics, horror pops, and coughing cats too. Well, listen, 520. We just dropped last week. I know it's not strictly psychobilly, but we just dropped our cramps episode in the feed, a little rewind taste for you. Go check that out. All right? Obviously, there's a psychobilly connection there, and I'm pretty sure we do an okay job of explaining that connection in the episode. Haven't listened in a while, but it's available for you at the top of your feed, that cramps episode. Go check that out. Give it a spin.

412. Has nobody mentioned Frankie Teardrop by suicide as the scariest song ever. If not, considerate mentioned. Scary as fuck. So scary. I can't listen to it all the way through. I may also be a punk-ass bitch though. So there's that too. 4-1-2, you know, I read punk-ass bitch and I guess, you know, it kind of makes sense with Frankie Teardrop, but I was like, hey, those, them's are harsh words. And then I scrolled up here in the text thread history. You've texted a couple times. And I was like, who's this dude writing punk-ass bitch? And it appears from this earlier text where you say, what's up, Jake?

It appears you're a woman. Okay, 4-1-2. Okay, I mean, I'm not going to quibble, I guess, with your, you know, if you're saying punk-ass bitch. It also appears that your Pittsburgh Pirates fan. Jinsers, what's up? How did so many of you end up in our audience? I don't know, but I love it. Keep it coming. 775 writes in, say, since you have two Judas Priest songs on your list of great Halloween songs,

why not make it three beyond the realms of death from Stain Class is one of my all-time favorite priest tunes. You're going to hear all about Stain Class in this Judas Priest episode 775 that we've got coming your way. Next week, 816 writes in Garage. They're making fun of my voice. It's okay. You want to make fun of someone with someone's accent? Is that cool? Is that what we're doing now?

Discos? I kid. Make fun of me all you want. Terry Sadler emails us. Subject, terrifying tunes. Message. In every home, a heartache by Roxy Music. Psycho by Eddie Noak.

Jeannie's Afraid of the Dark. By Dolly Parton and Porter Wagoner. The best rockerola, Terry. Terry, thank you. Terry's terrifying tunes. I love this. I love this because I only know one of these songs. I know Psycho, if it's the one I'm thinking of.

I know the Leon Payne, Elvis Costello one. You dig I'm psycho, don't you, mama, that one. I'm guessing that's the same one because it feels like you're on a country tip here. You got every in it one. I don't know every home of heartache by rocksy music. I don't know that tune. And, you know, I actually heard a Roxy Music song this morning, came on randomly. And I thought to myself, I need to listen to more Brian Ferry, more Roxy Music.

So I appreciate this. Jeannie's Afraid of the Dark by Dolly and Porter. This sounds awesome. No idea what this is, but it sounds like, yeah, I kind of know, I know where they're going with this. That's so that whole country politin kind of, we're going to get scary on you here. Someone's dying. That's all I'm saying. I bet you someone died and Jeannie's Afraid of the Dark.

Terry's terrifying tunes. Appreciate the email. Guys, you want to email me, Disgracedlam pod at gmail.com. You want to hit me up on the socials. That's at Disgraceland Pod. Marissa Delgado writes in, Hey, Jake, longtime listener, the best spooky band of all time

is Queens of the Stone Age. Have you listened yet to live at the catacombs? It's dark, wet, drippy, spooky, and haunting. And they are keeping rock and roll alive. and I wrote back to her, I'm husband yet, but I need to. Thank you. I was listening to Queens yesterday at the gym, and I think I hurt myself. That's a true story, ladies and gentlemen.

And Marissa went on to say, get the vinyl, light a candle in the dark and listen to it loud. It's like you can hear the spirits. All right, Marissa, I dig that. New York City hardcore legend Gavin Van Vlack writes in Halloween song, Bella Legosi's dead. Bowhouse. I got to admit, and I admitted it to Gavin. Bahas is a, it's a whiff for me, man. It's a black hole in my, my musical knowledge.

I know I've heard this song before, but I can't say that I'm familiar with this whole thing. Gavin also recommended Sisters of Mercy vision thing. All right. Oh, and then Ghost Town by the Specials. Ghost Town by the Specials, I know we've got that record on. It's currently pulled out in our living room, sort of vinyl turntable area.

It's not mine, though. It's my sons, and I didn't buy it for him. Got it himself. I like that. All right, let's check out this voicemail from the 480. Hey, Jake, this is Jessica in the 480. Longtime listener, first time caller.

Hopefully I'm not too late for the after party question about the spooky stories. But my old house was very haunted. Lots of strange occurrences happened there. The worst one, however, was one time my oldest son was about two or three years old, and I was measuring him against a growth chart that we had on the wall. And all of a sudden, he got this really scared look on his face, and he clunged onto my leg. And I said, oh, buddy, what's the matter?

And he said, there's a man. And I said, right in back of you. And there was nobody there. And I completely froze and then ran out of the room. But, yeah, definitely one of the more spooky occurrences there. But thanks again for a great pod. Thanks for the spooky story, Jessica. Happy to hear that everybody's all right.

You want to send in more spooky stories? Keep them coming. We're talking about that a couple weeks ago, but I love it. I'm here for it. That's what October's for. Keep them coming, guys. 913, Texan, Sabbath forever. It's cruel and usual to ask such a broad question.

But if there's a gun to my head, I'm blasting war pigs. Rest in peace, Ozzy. Thank you. Love the show, especially the Halloween. episodes. Madison Miller, K-CMO. I responded to Madison. I said, hey, you got it. Hope you dig the Judas Priest episode coming up on Tuesday. And then Madison responded, sorry, I think you might have the wrong number. I'm not sure who this is. Madison, it's Jake. It's Jake. Texting from Disgraceland. Come on, Madison. Screaming Lotus emails us, Disgracelandpot at gmail.com.

I finally joined Disgracelan's Patreon. I talk a lot about your podcast to my music students. a lot of them onto it. You provide such a great source of music history. Thanks for everything that you do. I'm really happy to support your business and passion. See on Patreon, rockerola best. Mike Moldi, Aguelo. Aguello. Aguello. I'm fucking up that last name. I know I am and I apologize, Mike. So I'm going to give you a little plug here. Mike's emailing from Scream and Lotus music lessons. If you're in the 503, give Mike a little Google search there if you need some music lessons. Mike, we appreciate you and all the kind things you're saying and also your support over on the Patreon box, Mike's getting hooked up with ad-free podcast listening guys and exclusive content

like the conversation Zeth and I are going to be getting into fairly shortly. But right now, I'm going to take a quick break, back in flash. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that. Trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of The Girlfriends, Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist.

I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves.

Listen to the Girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Kate Winkler Dawson, host of the Wicked Words podcast. Each week I sit down with the true crime writers behind some of the most compelling true crime stories and discuss their years spent investigating and why it still matters. He sees his father coming out of the woods with his hands over his face, and he knows something happened.

His father just grabs him and says she's gone. She's gone. These are the cases that leave survivors, families, and the journalists who cover them changed forever. Working in national television, it'll push you to your limits, and you'll end up doing things you never thought you'd do. You know, you look back at it and you're like, I can't believe that really happened. Join me and step inside the investigation. New episodes drop every Monday on the Exactly Right Network. Listen to Wicked Words on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Remember when you'd walk into your local video rental place and there were always those two employees behind the counter arguing about movies? Well, that's us. I'm Millie de Cherico. And I'm Casey O'Brien. And now we're arguing about movies on our podcast, Dear Movies I Love You from the Exactly Right Network. Can I say something about the Criterion Clause? Go ahead, dude. They're letting too many people in there. Okay. That's another. film grape I got two. Sadly, that rental place doesn't exist anymore.

It's probably a store that sells running shoes. Or an ice cream shop with an extra pee and an E at the end. So consider us your slacker movie clerks in podcast form. I would like to establish a timeline of the moment you figured out who Channing Tatum was. Every Tuesday, we dig into the movies we can't stop obsessing over, from hidden gems to big screen favorites. New episodes drop every week on the exact. Right Network. Listen to your movies.

I love you on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You know, I got almost 48 hours of sports fan bliss this week. The Patriots One, Drake May look great with Mike Rable. I'm convinced is the right coach. I watched up in the New England area back in my hometown. Sat in a big living room with my stepdad and my son and my brother-in-law and his family. bunch of dudes from New England sitting around watching the Patriots. I can't explain how

fucking awesome that felt to do. I haven't done that in a while. Just, you know, it was real shitty out. It was raining on Sunday. It was just, you know, that kind of made it even better. I don't know why. It just did. It just felt very familiar to me. The Pats won. And it was fantastic. And I flew home and, you know, now just, you know, I was walking through the world yesterday thinking how great it was to finally have a football team that doesn't suck again. and just how, you know, excited I am about this whole Drake Me and Mike Rable thing. And then, bam, this morning, get hit with this Red Sox news. So listen, before I get into it, this 60 Second Sports Rant in under 30 seconds is, once again,

sponsored by Five Hour Energy's new Pumpkin Spice flavor, your favorite fall drink in an energy shot. You can pick up a Pumpkin Spice, five hour energy shot available online at fivehour ernergy.com or Amazon Mac, give me that ticker. You know, after the Red Sox, ended their season. Most every Sox fan sitting here going, we overachieved this year. All right, with this roster, this is a super young team. This team has glaring holes that need to be addressed in free agency. The front office needs to bring in another pitcher, another starting pitcher, by the way, a stud, a reel number two, if not a second ace, no sniffing around the margins with the ghost of Tommy John's AAA cousin. We need a real arm and we need a real bat. Just one more big bat. Go get us

Pete Polar Bear, Lonza, bring back Kyle Schwerber. And then, And then, and then we get this news this morning that Alex Bregman is most likely opting out of his contract and heading to free agency. So now the Red Sox not only have to have a stud pitcher and free agency come their way, they also got to get that big bat still. And then they have to re-sign Alex Bregman. I can tell you, can I pre-hate the Red Sox for something that they haven't done yet? because I can almost all but guarantee you that this pathetic, yes, I said it, pathetic front office doesn't make all three of these moves. There's no way. At best, they'll make two. And if they do, I guarantee they're going to use those two moves to justify not making the third move,

because that's typical of this front office, Red Sox of the past decade, the way they work. They find ways to justify being mid. They find ways to spin us, the fan base, into believing that they actually care about competing with the Yankees' front office when they don't. They really don't. We're just a line item. We're a bigger part of a bigger business. It's going to be a long offseason. I'm telling you that right now, just like this was a long 60-second sport rant in under 30 seconds.

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with disgrace land. Sam goes for Hollywoodland. True crime is just our lane in. It's our excuse to talk about music and to talk about movies that we love. Sometimes, though, we just want to talk about great music and great musicians and great movies and great actors and actresses. Okay? Just because some great musician didn't commit some awful crime or have some awful crime happen to them or some great actor or actress, you know, same thing. Doesn't mean we don't want to talk to them, all right? Zeth Lundy, Dr. Lundy to you, and to me, over and double of us, his Hollywood land feed, has been killing it lately with this ongoing conversation about Hollywood history that he's been having with you guys. You know this, assuming you're listening. If you're not, and you love movies,

and you want a conversation on film history that you're not going to get anywhere else, and what are you waiting for? You need to subscribe to Hollywoodland. But anyways, back to what I was saying. We, Zeth, myself, and all you guys, sometimes we just want to talk about the music and the movies that we love, even if we don't have a crime angle. And since Zeth has started over in Hollywood land, he's had some pretty major icons die on his watch. Robert Redford a couple weeks ago, and most recently, Diane Keaton, and Zeth, being the talented doctor that he is, has found this unique skill in paying tribute to these giants of the screen. If you want to hear what Zeth has to say about Diane Keaton, who, make no bones about it,

was a giant talent. Get on over to Hollywoodland in whatever podcast app you use and hit subscribe. Here's a taste of what you're missing. I got to take a second and talk about the late great Diane Keaton, who we just lost a few days ago at the age of 79. Sometimes I actually forgot that her name was Diane Keaton and would just call her Annie Hall because her entire persona, her style,

it was so entwined, at least in my mind, with that great role she played in the 1977 Woody Allen film, the film that earned her Academy Award for Best Actress. Her maiden name actually was Hall. She changed it to Keaton, which was her mother's maiden name when she joined the union, and there was already another actress registered under the name Diane Hall.

But Woody Allen wrote that role for her. And so I've got to think that the character was, in many ways, an echo of the real Diane Keaton, just like Woody's character in many ways is an echo of him. This was, of course, five years after her big break as Kay and the Godfather, a role she won out after Francis Ford Coppola auditioned something like 100 actresses. And this role, the role of Kay is so different from Annie Hall. I mean, there's so much that Diane Keaton is doing in this movie, but doing it low-key. I mean, the whole movie is in her face at the very end when Michael lies to her, and then the door shuts on him as he's becoming the thing he never wanted to be, which is basically the devil.

But it's all in her face, your entire understanding of what's happening, of what's just happened over the course of the two plus hours, what's going to happen. you see her seeing this and you're like, oh, fuck, it's one of the greatest nonverbal pieces of acting, of reacting ever on screen. All right, that's the Hollywoodland podcast. Make sure you're following on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcast. Speaking to people and things that we love, I am stoked to get into this conversation with Zeth on the music from the 90s about the worst of the worst, the monsters, the slack demons, the creepers who give us. the creeps. Ian Watkins's murder last week in the Monster Mansion inspired this drive down the dark side of the recommendations cul-de-sac. And I hope you are all signed up as Rocka-Rola members on Apple Podcasts or Patreon so that you can hear this exclusive content. As always, that cost is a

mere five bucks a month, but that cost is going up before the end of the month. So now is the time to become a disgrace in all-access members so you can hear at a reasonable price, of course, exclusive content like what we have coming up right now, as well as it being ad-free. If not, either way, see you after the break. All right, aside from Black Sabbath, I don't know that we mentioned any artists that we've previously covered in disgrace land today. I guess that means that we're pretty forward-thinking, pretty forward-looking, I should say. Maybe it also means we need new episodes on Sisters of Mercy, maybe poured his head, nine-inch nails. If you don't know what I'm talking about, that means you didn't hear Zethani in the All-access section.

we'll have the Black Sabbath episode details in the show notes of this after party if you want to easily find that story. Right now, however, we are going to recap. Number one, this week's full episode, Houdini, with a special appearance by the Red Hot Chili Peppers, is available for your listening pleasure at the top of your feed. Number two, also there's a new mini episode for all access members on Slipknot. Number three, rewind episodes coming out right after this after party on Norwegian black metal and the misfits. number four next week our new episode on judas priest five zest tribute to diane keaton in this week's hollywoodland rap party episode number six six one seven nine oh six six six three eight your voice keeps us digging into the dark corners of music history so keep calling keep texting get your answers into me on this week's question of the week or with whatever or with whatever else you want to talk about seven don't forget this goes this isn't just content it's a community a

community of the obsessed no one cares about music books records in the crime and grime the them all together like you do. And well, that's a disgrace. All right, on September 24th, 1991, the ghost of Houdini's housemates, the Red Hot Chili Peppers, released their excellent album, Blood, Sugar, Sex, Magic with a K. Here's what America was listening to on that day, according to the Billboard charts. Number one, I adore me a more, color me bad. Last week, two, weeks on chart. Number two, good vibrations, Marky Mark in the Funky Bunch. Last week, six, weeks on chart, 10.

Number three, Motown, Philly, Boys to Men, Last Weeks to Men, four, weeks on chart, 50. Number four, things that make you go, hmm, C&C, the Music Factory. Last week, five, weeks on church, ten. Number five, the promise of a new day. Paula Abduke. Last week. Talking and start mixing. When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist, they take matters into their own hands.

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