DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode: Musical Sherpas and Spooky Sounds

Episode Date: October 9, 2025

This week in the After Party, Jake suggests some songs for spooky season and wonders if ChatGPT will replace the musical sherpas who guided us in our youth. Plus, we hear your stories about who turned you on to your favorite music. Next week we're bringing you an episode on Harry Houdini (with a side of Red Hot Chili Peppers), and Jake wants to know: what scary music do you play this time of year? What songs, bands or albums creep you out? Share your thoughts at 617-906 6638, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or on socials @disgracelandpod. For more great Disgraceland episodes, dive into our extensive archive, including such episodes as: Episode 129 - Bruce Springsteen Episode 29 and 30 - Grateful Dead Episode 212 - Elvis Presley and Johnny Ace Episode 89 - Black Sabbath To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hey, Discos. Need a little more disgrace land in your life? Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the After Party. Welcome to the disgrace land bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the after party.

This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of disgrace land to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. Our mission to uncover the truth, to confront the myth, to reclaim the story on this bonus episode. We're talking about our new episode on Pentegram, and we're rewinding back to our cramps in Brandon Lee episodes for the spooky season, previewing next week's story on Houdini,

with the red hot chili peppers making a guest appearance. As we get into your voicemails, texts, DMs, and as always, a whole lot of rosy. This is the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know that the best history is the history that gets buried. Disgraceland is where I tell the stories they didn't want told, the kind you'll end up telling to someone else.

All right, discos, let's get into it. All right, before I put these after-party episodes together, I usually do a quick cruise of the internet. Just to see if there's any music news breaking that's worth talking to you guys about. This morning, I came across this headline. Spotify integrates into chat GPT to bring new music recommendations. And it made me vomit in my mouth, but it also made me think of our new full episode where the character of Teddy Pentagram gloriously recommends to our two young metalheads

the awesomeness of his favorite band, Pentegram. My, how far we have come from those days of searching out the cool dude at the record store to turn you on to the music that you needed to know about. Instead of stone record store clerks and cool older siblings and parents who knew their way around the cool section of their record collection, we now have artificial intelligence bots turning us on to new music. it was always going to come to this guys. It was bound to happen and it's here.

Somehow this is more egregious to me than AI creating music because that feels like something that I'll be able to safely ignore. This artificial intelligence recommendation technology, it feels like something that's going to quickly become normalized. It already is. I mean, this is essentially what Spotify's been doing with their playlist for years. But now with chat GPT and language, language-based AI, it's just going to explode, become totally normalized. And I got to say,

like, I just feel bad for future generations. The thrill of discovery, that sense of danger, that feeling of being special, all those emotions that you got when you're musical sense, when you're vinyl Sherpa, when you're rock and roll, Obi-Wan Kenobi, played you black flag for the first time or explain to you what Led Zeppelin's deal with the devil was all about or passed down a Grateful Dead bootleg cassette that they got from like a cool person in their neighborhood or whatever made you swear not to tell your parents that he or she was going to let you listen to straight out of Compton. All that will soon be completely gone. A dead ritual from the past like checking your messages on an answering machine or making a mixtape for a girl.

or a guy that you got a crush on. It's all gone. It's already gone, but it's really about to be just dead, dead, dead, dead, dead. Our question of the week coming into this after party was who turned you on to music as a kid.

And we're going to dive into your answers later in the show. But I read this shit about Chat GPD and Spotify recommendations and it just made me go, you know what, I just want to talk. I just want to talk about music with these guys today. I just want to recommend stuff. That's all I want to do.

I want to talk about cool shit. And I'm going to do recommendations with Zeth later in the show in the exclusive section. But in the meantime right here, I'm going to frame this around Halloween music and recommend music to you guys, old school style, analog style. Just going to open up a discussion right here, right now that will prompt some talk about a certain type of music. And then, like I said, later in the show, I will dive in more fully with Zeth and give you specific recommendations. but I want to just be open here and just talk about the stuff that I'm viving on right now. It's October and there's a specific type of music that I think we all get into in October. I certainly do.

My wife and I, we've been hosting these October dinner parties now for a couple of years. We had it a week early at the end of September this year. That's not the point. The point is that I've had an epic mix going on since about 22, with great fall slash Halloween music. Now, with this mix, with this playlist, I'm not trying to give haunted house vibes with the mix, but I am trying to give Donnie Darko dinner party vibes, okay?

So I want to look at this great Halloween music from the perspective of a list that I found on Rolling Stone of, you know, what they recommend in this genre, in this area, and line it up against my mix, okay? And then, like I said, Zeth and I will come in during the exclusive section of this show, and we'll give you like three just banger recommendations each on stuff that you're probably not going to find, I don't think, anywhere else. I mean, some of you, I'm sure will have heard of some of this stuff, but we're trying to, you know, pull you under the covers with us here.

First, a sampling of the track listing from my Halloween playlist. I'm not going to give you the whole thing because it's just too damn long. But here's a taste. Diamonds and Rust, Judas Priest, Joan Baez cover. It's a fucking great song. The Killing Moon by Echo and the Bunnyman. There's that Donnie Darko dinner party vibe at its best that I was talking about. Give Me Danger by the Stooges.

Just sounds spooky. Don't Fear the Reaper by Blue Oyster Culp because we need the classic mom and dad from the 70s are breaking up vibes. We need that peppered in. Fascination Street by The Cure. Are we having sex or are we freaked out, Robert Smith? I don't know what's happening. Explain it to me.

Wolf like me by TV on the radio. You are the protagonist in your own horror movie here. with this song. So run, season of the witch, uh, but the Lana del Rey version, because depending on the day I either love or hate Donovan, attack of the ghost riders by the Ravenettes, hurdy-gurdy man by Donovan because the movie Zodiac made me love this song, even if I do hate Donovan on some days. My girlfriend is a witch by October country. Murder in the Red Barham by Tom Waits, just to make sure everyone at the dinner party isn't getting too comfortable. Werewolves of London by Warren Zivon because his hair was perfect. You make love and fun by Fleetwood

Mac. I don't know. I find that tune haunting. London Dungeons. by misfits because, you know, London Dungeon. Evil Woman by Black Sabbath, evil woman by E.L.O. Wild in the streets by Garland Jeffries because City Kids get to celebrate Halloween too. And of course, 96 tears by question mark and the Mysterians and The Ripper by Judas Priest.

That's two Judas Priest songs already, if you're counting. Venus of Avenue D by Mink DeVille. And I could go on and on and on, but I will not. This list does not quit. But let's look to Rolling Stone Magazine and their list of 20. 25 songs that are truly terrifying. Now, I'm not going to give you all 25, but I'm going to give you a

smattering because this is a pretty incredible list. It's from 2019. I don't know if that's why. I find Rolling Stone to be insufferable these days, but, you know, they really came too with this, they brought it here with this list. All right? I want to get into some of these songs with you guys. Okay. At 25, number 25, they have a song called Murder of the Lawson family by the character Carolina Buddies. Now, I've heard this song. This story is the, the story of this song is the basis for our Derek and the Domino's B-Lyline story about the slaughter of the Lawson family by their patriarch, Charlie Lawson, on Christmas Day. So this tune is more of a Christmas song for me, that a Halloween song. I've never heard this version, though, by the Carolina Buddies. I have heard other versions that are, you know, they're not very, they're not spooky because it's kind of, it's kind of, kind of old-timey waltz country blue bluegrass the subject is scary but the vibe isn't i think it's the what is the time two for what is waltz time it just it doesn't spook me out okay so but whatever i mean i credit rolling stone for having this tune because the subject matter is as halloweeny as it gets anyways

next on the rolling stone list is another old timey country song louvin brothers by knoxville girl which to me scares the hell out of me every single time there are other versions of this song that are great, most notably the Lemonheads version, which I love, totally different. There are certain artifacts from my past where if I didn't consume them, I don't believe I would be talking into the microphone with you right now. You know, reading Helter Skelter by Vince Bouliosi as bunk as I think that book now is, but it led me on this path. And so did this song by the Lovin Brothers specifically. Knoxville Girl. It's one of the, if someone asked me, what's a murder ballad. This is the song I'm playing for them.

They've got, uh, Rolling Stone has the doors, the end, which I love, but this is the wrong door song for Halloween. You need to have riders on the storm as your doors tune for your, your Halloween playlist. It's so spooky. It's so cinematic. Zeth and I, uh, for the all access members, you're going to hear about this in a little bit more detail when we get into it, but Zeth and I spent all last night with the cameras on, the microphones on, talking about riders on the storm by the doors, and Billy Cockay, Cook-I-Cook, the killing spree, juvenile delinquent hitchhiker from the 1950s.

If you want to know why we were doing that, again, see in the exclusive section of this after-party. Next on the Rolling Stone list, this is great, because this is one of those songs that I know and I love and I listen to often, and I just for whatever reason never thought to put it on my my playlist of great Halloween tunes, great spooky season tunes. And it is Leonard Cohen's Avalanche.

I love this song. I love it. I love it so much from songs of love and hate. Great, great album. I don't know why, man. When I'm, you know, when I got one going, when I've tied one on and it's late at night, and the wife's asleep and I'm still roaming around the house looking for shit to do. This is one of those records I put on and I just kind of, you know, do my thing.

This one in this context, however, Avalanche, the song, check these lyrics out. Your laws do not compel me to kneel grotesque and bear. It is your turn, beloved. It is your flesh that I wear. Oh, Leonard was on a heater with that one. fucking great tune love it can't wait to put it on my list suicides frankie tear drop another great song i feel like i talked about this recently with you guys that's on the list of course springsteen's nebraska you can't talk about scary shit without talking about this song i i still remember hearing

the closing lines of this tune and being chilled to my core and this of course just to give you a little context, Charlie Starkweather, and this is true. He said this. He's on trial for his life after, you know, one of the first serial killers, if you want to call him that. And Springsteen says about Starkweather at trial. These are the lyrics. They declared me unfit to live, set into that great void, my soul, be hurled. They want to know why I did what I did. Well, sir, I guess there's just a meanness in this world. Oh, crushing, chilling lyric. Also, on the list, great tune.

PJ Harvey, down by the water. Fucking great. Great. Scott Walker, Farmer in the city? I don't know this song. Maybe you guys do. And I'm talking about it here because I'm hoping, I'm hoping one of you guys out there who's a Scott Walker fan

can point me in the right direction. Where do I start with Scott Walker? I want to know. Okay, Nick Cave in the Bad Seeds Song of Joy. This should be on my list. It's from his murder ballads album. I'm sure you guys, Nick Cave fans, you know this tune. We're going to do a Nick Cave episode soon enough.

Tom Waits, what's he building in there? My wife and I always joke about the song because in our very first apartment together in Arlington, Massachusetts, in the Heights, in Arlington Heights, with the Soches, we had finally moved away from the greasers, and we were living in the heights. And this dude behind us had this house. This fucking guy, man, they couldn't have made a horror movie character better than this guy. He was something else.

I, you know, short in stature. And he only came out at night, and he always seemed to be dressed for winter, even if it was the summer. And I shit you not. This guy, he lived right behind us. I fucking kid you not. He wore surgical gloves all the time. And we never knew why. He freaked us the fuck out.

He's probably responsible for us moving out a year before we should have. But we would always just, we'd see him. We'd come in the house. We'd be like, what's he building in there? That's from that Tom Wait's song. Solid, solid list from Rolling Stone. Zeth and I are going to have more non-AI generated spooky music recommendations for you guys in the exclusive section of this episode.

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These are the cases that leave survivors, families, and the journalists who cover. them changed forever. Working in national television, it'll push you to your limits and you'll end up doing things you never thought you'd do. You know, you look back at it and you're like, I can't believe that really happened. Join me and step inside the investigation. New episodes drop every Monday on the exactly right network. Listen to wicked words on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right. This week, we dropped our episode on Pentecost. gram in the feed for all of you as our newest full episode coming up right after this our rewind episodes direct for the spooky Halloween heads out there we've got the cramps

and our episode on brandon lee and the crow next week on tuesday our next full new episode will be on houdini with a special appearance in that episode by the red hot chili peppers okay keeping with our haunted october theme i want to switch it up as it pertains to the question of the week I want to stay on this topic of scary as all hell music. I want your songs that spook you out. I want to know the records that give you the creeps. I want, you know, we talked about, you know, who are the people who turned us on to music as little kids? You know, what records are you guys playing for your little sister, for your friend who, you know, your cousin, your kids,

whatever, just kind of creeped them out. I remember playing night prom. by ACDC for my sister when she was probably, well, 10, I was probably 15 and scaring the shit out of her. What spooky music are you, are you vibing on in October? Hit me up. 617-906-66-6-38. Let me know. Voicemail, text. Let's lean into this spooky music this month, okay, to match all the spooky stories we got going into the feed. 617-906-66-66-3638 voicemail and text. Let me know what songs, what records, artists, and bands gave you the songs, the tunes, the records that give you the good kind of creeps, all right? And we'll get into it all next

week. I'll play your voicemails. I'll play your text right here. Last week's question of the week was, who was your musical Obi-Wan Kenobi, who was your Sherpa? Who turned you on to great music as a kid? I'm hanging on the telephone this week right now with the 816. Hey, regarding the question about our musical Sherpas of the past. Number one would be my big brother, obviously. But another huge one for me and all my friends was skate videos, especially from the 90s, before they had to worry about music rights.

We heard about tons of punk and hip-hop acts, but, I mean, even got into stuff like Public Image Limited and Stereo Lab, even like Herbie Hancock, and stuff. Just so much great music and stuff you don't just stumble upon in your day-to-day life gets used in skate videos. And they're a great source to this day. So, all right.

Thanks for the pod and keep up the good work. Love this. Love that you bring up skate videos. Such a great portal for incredible music. Skaters just had the best fucking taste, man. I never skated as a kid, but I hung out with skaters. On Instagram, I did a little video. and I mentioned one of my musical Sherp was growing up,

this guy from Clinton Mass named Dan Thomas, who was an older skater kid who let me borrow these records, turn me on to the Circle Jerks, bad brains. And I mentioned that I wasn't sure if I ever returned the records, knowing fully that I didn't. Just one of those things. I didn't steal the records. I just, you know, Dan got busy, I got busy.

He never got his Circle Jerks record back. And, you know, whatever. I'm a dick. I admit it. anyhow his girlfriend i haven't seen dan in literally like three four decades like forever decades i haven't seen him and i don't he doesn't even live in clinton anymore neither do i his girlfriend saw the video got in touch with me it was like dan wants his records back so i'm gonna work on getting him back for him and a little something else too some some disgraceland

merch um but dan was of course a skater this is way before skate videos and all the great Very eclectic of those skate, skate videos from the 90s, as the 816 mentions. Eclectic music, great taste, great taste. All right, let's check out this voicemail here from the 619. Yo, Jake, this is Jeremy again. Thanks for playing my voicemail last time. But the Pentagon episode was fucking brilliant. and it's funny that it started getting some recognition

before being shut down finally. But as far as the person who influenced me would be Cliff Cunningham from the local band's social spit. He used to work it off the record and that guy used to basically turn every local punk rocker on to some great, great music. I actually did a podcast with him on my podcast.

My podcast is a union and metro podcast, and we talked with him about his music and then working it off the record and influencing others by letting them know what to buy. So thanks again, brother. Hope all as well. And I will talk to you soon. I've got to dig up this cactus, so I've got to get back to work.

Again, again, with the local punk rockers and the local skate kids turning us on to music. Thanks for your message, 619. Appreciate you. Matt, play the 7-8-1. Hi, Jake. This is Kelly from the 7-8-1. I haven't been in touch in a little while. I've had, like, a rough few months.

But I was just talking about who influenced you, musically, question. and that would be my big brother, which is Frank, Francis. And he passed away in May, but I thought of him instantly when he said that because he really was, he was a guitarist, and so he had like two martial half-sats in his room and, like, his friends all his little bit of playing, you know, had a band, different bands, whatever. I just distinctly remember hearing Metallica one. That's the first time I ever heard it from him. he got me into all that, you know,

he's a good house or Ledepin. My dad got me into the Beatles and Jambela. wait for that. I could sing Rockerick home when I was eight years old. But definitely my big brother influenced me got some music because he was a musician and, you know, had all musician friends. So, yeah, that's how I got into that.

Now I just like everything, but wanted to call in, checking with you, haven't talked to you if I haven't called you in a while. I was texted. and still love the show, obviously. Keep it up, Rock and Mola. 7-81, my condolences to you. Sounds like Francis had some great taste.

And I hope you're doing okay. I hope you're doing all right. Hope you getting through this time. I just, you know, for what it's worth, I can hear the Massachusetts in your voice, and it brought a smile to my face, and it made me feel a little homesick, and I'm actually heading home this weekend.

I'm really excited about it. Thanks for getting in touch 7-8-1. Let's go. Let's do some text, guys. Just a reminder, 617-906-66-6-6-3-8 voicemails and texts that I want to hear from you on for next week are going to be what is the spooky music that gets you going, the records, the songs, the artists. All right, let's do this text from the 530. Hey, Disgraceland Crew, I'm catching up on the October 1st bonus episode. My friend Derek was solely responsible for getting me into punk rock and hardcore when I was.

12. He introduced me to bands like Dagnasty, Youth of Today, Uniform Choice. The list goes on and on. He also mysteriously disappeared and was found dead in a California desert in August of 2021. At the time, there were swirling stories of what happened traveling fast by wire. Many of us suspected foul play, but no cause of death or autopsy were released, to my knowledge. I'd still like to know exactly what happened, but may never know. His spirit remains close to 530. I'm sorry for your loss. Sounds like your friend Derek had some great taste in music. A horrific story.

That's awful. All right. Let's go to the 416. 416, Texan. Hey, Jake, thanks for shout. Now, on the corner, the Miles Davis record, I think his fusion is underrated. When I got back from Jamaica,

a great trip toward Marley's estate in the mountains. Gangerastator, drank steel bottom, and got a private tour of Johnny Cash's secluded estate. When I got back, I set my Instagram reel of street photography picks from rural St. Ann's to Dubot by Miles. It's Slaps. I use it as my wake-up song now, and it always makes me smile, rockerola. You know, 416, I'm very happy to hear you say this.

I love it when we're recommended stuff, just talking about music, and people are as hyped on things as we are. It's part of why we do it. I think, you know, my favorite thing in the world, literally, is to talk about music. So keep it coming. 617-906-66-66-38. You can also email me, disgraceland pod at gmail.com. Polly McCracken writes in my musical Sherpa, my cool aunt, Judy.

Judy turned me onto the Grateful Dead when I was a kid. She was my mom's little sister. The fun aunt, my favorite person ever, and we get along so well because she was so cool. and let me do things my mom would not. And I could talk to her about anything. Sounds like you had a great one there. Polly with your aunt Judy. Thanks for getting in touch. I got a shout out my aunt Tracy who listens to disgrace land religiously and who still is turning me on to awesome music. She gets me new records or new record every Christmas. And it's always fantastic, which reminds me, I still have that canned heat John Lee Hooker album that she got me this past Christmas that I have to fully dive into that I have not. I'm on it, Tracy. It's happening. All right, you guys want to email me disgracelandpod at gmail.com. You want to call me 617-906663636338. You can leave me a voicemail. You can send me a text. You want to hit me up on social. You can do that too at disgrace land pod. Just a reminder of the question of the week. I want to know what spooky music

you are recommending for this Halloween season. Right now, I'm going to take a quick little break. I'm going to drink a little tea. I'll be back in a flash. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends...

Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a girl. a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Kate Winkler Dawson, host of the Wicked Words podcast. Each week I sit down with the true crime writers behind some of the most compelling true crime stories

and discuss their years spent investigating and why it still matters. He sees his father coming out of the woods with his hands over his face, and he knows something happened. His father just grabs him and says she's gone. She's gone. These are the cases that leave survivors, families, and the journalists who cover them changed forever. Working in national television, it'll push you to your limits, and you'll end up doing things you never thought you'd do. You know, you look back at it and you're like, I can't believe that really happened. Join me and step inside the investigation. New episodes drop every Monday on the exactly right network.

Listen to Wicked Words on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Remember when you'd walk into your local video rental place and there were always those two. two employees behind the counter arguing about movies? Well, that's us. I'm Millie to Cherico. And I'm Casey O'Brien. And now we're arguing about movies on our podcast, Dear Movies I Love You, from the Exactly Right Network.

Can I say something about the Criterion Clause? Go ahead, dude. They're letting too many people in there. Okay, that's another film, Gripe I got two. Sadly, that rental place doesn't exist anymore. It's probably a store that sells running shoes. Or an ice cream shop with an extra P and an E at the end. So consider us your son.

Slacker movie clerks in podcast form. I would like to establish a timeline of the moment you figured out who Channing Tatum was. Every Tuesday, we dig into the movies we can't stop obsessing over, from hidden gems to big screen favorites. New episodes drop every week on the exactly right network. Listen to Dear Movies I Love You on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, Matt, give me the ticker.

I want to eat my crow right away. into this. Let's hit it. This 60 second sports rant and under 30 seconds is once again sponsored by Five Hour Energy's new Pumpkin Spice flavor. Your favorite fall drink in an energy shot. You can pick up a pumpkin spice five hour energy shot available online at five hour energy.com or Amazon. Listen, it takes a real man to admit when he's wrong. Teach this to Mike's sons all the time. A couple weeks ago, I sat down in front of this very microphone and I told you all how Drake May was at best, Drake, maybe, and that he wasn't the real deal that that maybe McCaffrey was better, that Drake didn't look like he had any sand, like he couldn't hang in the NFL, like the

Pats were headed toward a season of mediocrity at best while I'm here today to tell you flat out that I was wrong. After that performance on Sunday night in Buffalo, I am convinced this dude can play. I am also convinced Mike Vrable can coach. I think both these dudes have intangibles that lead to winning. Yes, I'll say it right now. intangibles that lead to championships. I'm not saying we're winning anything this year,

but I am saying we've got winning in our future. And I think even a playoff appearance this year, that's right. I said it. I was wrong, but I'm happy about it. You know why? Because we have the two things you absolutely need to win in the NFL right now in New England. That is a real coach and a real quarterback who can ball out. All right, Matt, more of a mea culpa rave than a rant.

I know I didn't do well, but just let me know where I came in on the buzzer. Let's see here. minute eight, Jake, not too bad. You know, I don't care, I don't care that I didn't beat the buzzer. We beat the bills in Buffalo, baby. That was the sports rant sponsored by Five Hour Energy's new Pumpkin Spice flavor. These new Pumpkin Spice Five Hour Energy shots are fall in a bottle and bring that classic pumpkin spice flavor that we all know and love. Our favorite fall drink in an energy shot.

You can pick up a Pumpkin Spice Five Hour Energy shot available online at fivehourenergy.com or Amazon. So, every Wednesday, Dr. Zeth Lundy from the Presley Memorial Hospital. Graces all of you with his film in cinema knowledge in the Hollywoodland feed. Here's a little of me grilling Zeth on what he's got cooking in the rap party bonus episode this week and why you should be subscribed to Hollywoodland for the finest and true crime in Hollywood podcast. Okay, what are we going to speak to you? I wanted an update on rap party because I'm not going to, I don't know that I'm traveling this week. I don't know.

Yeah, that's right. See if I can bring me in the devil. You know what are you talking to the people about? Let me know. Well, pretty interesting stuff, actually. I basically opened the rap party asking the question, are movies dead? Which is a question that people ask all the time, any given time in movie history, I guess. But it's kind of come back on the conversation because the director Ridley Scott just a couple days ago was giving a talk somewhere in England and his son was like asking questions. He took questions from the audience and someone asked him about what kinds of movies he was watching.

And he basically said that he's watching his old. his own movies because they're so great. Because we are drowning. He says, I think the quote is, we are drowning in mediocrity. That only 5% of movies that are made are any good. And so before I posed this question of the audience, I actually went back in time.

I picked a year arbitrarily from the 80s, and I sort of did a very unscientific look at the number of movies that came out of that from that year and clocked them against what I would just, very quickly deem as being great movies. And their percentage rate is pretty much the same. It was like a five percentage rate, the same thing that Ridley Scott was talking about. What year did you go back to?

89, 1989. So you went back to 1989. And according to the IMDB, there were at least worldwide 600 movies made that year. There were more than that, but I didn't have enough time to keep going and fine. So there were at least 600, and I quickly identified at least about 20 that I thought were great, which was a 3% rate. And then I said, if we just doubled this rate

and made it 40 out of 600, that's still a 6% rate. It's still about the same. So you took Ridley-Scott's theory that only 5% of films made today are actually any good. You went back to 1989 and you tested it

against the films that were made then. And you determined that basically it was the same percentage of good films, just 5% made back in 1989. Very unscientific view of it. I think it was just, was more to choose from. So there are more great films, but there's also hundreds of more shitty films because movies were just such a bigger deal back then, right?

All right, that's Hollywoodland. That's the rap party. Make sure you're subscribed to Hollywoodland on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcast on Tracy. I'm talking to you. Listen, guys, don't forget the question of the week this week. Which evil, spooky, dark, What musical madness are you digging into in October? I want to know I want to update my playlist with your recommendations. Call me 617-90666-6-6-3-8 and let me know. Leave a voicemail. You'll hear yourself here in the after-party.

Send me a text. I might read it right here. And I respond sometimes, too, to the text. You might get a text late at night. Who the fuck is this? It's me. I don't know. Sometimes I do that.

Sometimes I answer it here. Sometimes I answer it there. Who cares? One way or another you're getting an answer. I think. I hope. We try. Listen, if you want more on the recommendations front from Zeth and I, and trust me, you do.

You're not going to want to miss out on these recommendations. They're coming up right now in the exclusive section of this after party. Go to Patreon and sign up. Or just go if you're Apple Podcasts, go to Apple Podcasts and sign up. It's five bucks a month. You know, you can buy a beer for five bucks? Can you dip into the old wallet there for one more beer, one more coffee per month? You're going to get that content, and you're going to support this show.

And believe me, we appreciate it. All right, here we go. Oh, man, we mentioned a ton of great musicians in this episode, musicians with incredible stories. Grateful Dead, Elvis Presley, Bruce Springsteen, The Doors, Black Sabbath. We've got episodes on all these artists. Good episodes on all these artists. We also mentioned Judas Priest and The Cure.

We've got episodes for these guys in the pipeline. You're going to hear the Judas Priest episode this month. The Cure, you're going to hear. here early next year. Mentioned Leonard Cohen, Nick Cave. Got to do episodes on these folks. PJ Harvey, we should do a PJ Harvey episode next year for sure. Matt will have the episode details in the show notes of this after party for you.

So you can quickly find those dead Elvis, Springsteen, Doors, Sabbath episodes. And you can just get to listening, all right? But right now, it's time. It's time to recap. Number one, this week's full episode on Pentegram is available in your feed right now for you to check out. Number two, we're rewinding with two spooky episodes this week, one on the cramps and one on Brandon Lee and the crow. Those are going to be in your feed right after this after party. Number three, next week on Tuesday, our episode on Houdini with, like I said, a little bit of chili pepper sprinkled in there.

Number four on Hollywoodland right now, Anna Nicole Smith, number five, six one, seven, nine. 906663-8, your voice keeps us digging into the dark corners of music history. So keep calling, keep texting with your answers to this week's question of the week or with whatever else you want to talk about. Number six, don't forget discos. This isn't just content. It's a community, a community of the obsessed. And no one cares about music, books, records in the crime and grime. It ties them all together like you do.

And well, that's a disgrace. All right. Pentagram's excellent album, Relentless, was released in February of 1985. And here is what America was listening to right at that moment. Number one, careless whisper. Wham featuring George Michael. Last week, three. Weeks on chart, nine.

Number two, I want to know what love is. Foreigner. Last week, one. Peak position, one. Weeks on chart, 11. Number three, easy lover. Philip Bailey. Featuring Phil Collins

Last week Two Peak position Two Weeks on Cherle 13 Number four Love one

Billy Ocean Last week Four Peak position Five Weeks on Cherin 12 Talking and start

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