DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode – Obsessions, Earworms, and RIP Sly Stone

Episode Date: June 12, 2025

This week in the After Party, Jake goes down a rabbit hole as he thinks about great songs about obsession. What are some of your favorites? And speaking of songs and obsession, what is that 90s earworm Jake has stuck in his head? Plus we hear from you on where you are and what you're doing when you listen to Disgraceland. Next week, we're bringing you the tragic story of the Who and the Riverfront Coliseum disaster , and Jake wants to know: What is the worst tragedy in music history? Tell Jake at 617-906-6638, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or on socials @disgracelandpod. For more great Disgraceland episodes, dive into our extensive archive, including such episodes as: Episode 124 - Sly Stone Episode 129 - Bruce Springsteen Episode 152 - Blondie Episode 85 - Pantera Episode 25 and 26 - Kurt Cobain and Courtney Love To hear an extended version of the After Party and unlock access to a monthly exclusive episode and ad free listening, become a Disgraceland All Access member at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠disgracelandpod.com/membership.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.disgracelandpod.com/merch⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to see the latest Disgraceland merch! Sign up for our newsletter and get the inside dirt on events, merch and other awesomeness - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠GET THE NEWSLETTER⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Jake and DISGRACELAND: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (formerly Twitter)  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hey, Discos, need a little more disgrace land in your life? Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the after party. Welcome to the disgrace land bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the after party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party,

the bridge to get you from one full episode of disgrace land to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. On this bonus episode, we are talking about this week's full episode subject on Bjork. We are previewing the coming episode on The Who and the Riverfront. Coliseum disaster talking, I'm so obsessed with you, blues, and we go through your voicemails, text, DMs, emails, and as always, a whole lot of rosy. All right, discos, let's get. So Ricardo Lopez was obsessed with Bjork and nearly killed her, as we just heard in this week's full episode. Mark David Chapman was obsessed with John Lennon and did indeed kill the coolest

Beatle. Nathan Gale was obsessed with Pantara and he shot and murdered their guitar player, Dime Bag Darrow, when Dyn was on stage with his other band, Damage Plan, coincidentally on the same date that John Lennon was murdered December 8th. Also the same day that Jim Morrison was born. Anyways, this theme of obsession got me thinking about musicians and their obsession. So flipping it. So everything I just talked about was about fans being. obsessed with rock stars. This is about musicians who are who themselves are obsessed. Okay. And I thought about how obsessed Kurt Cobain was with Courtney Love. It's something that I don't think gets enough coverage. But I found it when I was researching Nirvana for the two episodes

that we did in Nirvana, you can see, it's clear his day. The dude was obsessed with her. And there's a lot of his writings that depict his obsession. So some people would ask, was Kurt even obsessed with Courtney? And the answer, I think. is absolutely yes he was. Here's an example in one journal entry of Kurtz. He writes about Courtney Courtney. This is a quote, Courtney, when you're not around,

I literally can't breathe, I can't think. I feel like a lost child looking for its mother in a department store. I ache for you. I need you so fucking bad. It scares me. I want to crawl inside your body and live there. Now, of course, Kurt Cobain was a total mess when he died.

Aside from his relationship, with Courtney Love that depending on who you talk to will be described to you as being toxic or or damaged at the time or it's hard to depict that relationship without negativity there at the end. And Kurt was, of course, depressed and heavily addicted to drugs and had been for some time. And that means, you know, his brains were kind of like oatmeal. But all that said, I often think what would have happened if Kirk Cobain didn't kill himself. How would it have gone for Kurt? And in this context, I'm thinking, how would his obsession with Courtney Love have played out? Not just in his relationship, but in his

career. I have thoughts. None of them are good, but I want to keep going down this obsession rabbit hole with you guys and where the Nirvana, where the Kirk Cobain of it all led me. There aren't any Nirvana songs that I can think of the deal with the type of obsession that we're talking about. Maybe there are. I didn't really research it. I was just thinking off the top of my head, but it got me thinking, what are some of the other tunes of some other songs of obsession from artists that are that are bordering on the creepy? Okay, songs of obsession that are bordering on the creepy. Okay, well, speaking of John Lennon, there's run for your life with its, I'd rather see you dead little girl than to be with another man. Now, John Lennon later said, of course, that he regretted

writing that song. And I always saw the song as sort of a product of the times. And if you're going to indict anyone here, I'm not letting John Lennon completely off the hook, but you got to indict the times, okay? John said he regretted it. He always said he regretted that song. And again, I think it's more about the time that the songwriter was working in more than it is an actual statement about a woman that the songwriter was thinking about. And again, I'm not excusing John Lennon. I'm not excusing it. But we've got to take into context, the era, that lyric, I'd rather see you dead little girls and to be with another man. It is hardly, I want to fuck you like an animal by Trent and Resner,

which I'm not sure if obsession was on Trent's mind when he wrote that lyric or not, but one could sure as hell make the case. I love that song, by the way. But, you know, taken literally, kind of fucked up. Also, I'm pretty sure Marilyn Manson claims that he wrote that lyric, that he gave Trent that idea. That's a whole other wormhole. But let's stay in the creepy obsession song, wormhole for a minute, okay?

and thinking about this, I came a, I don't know why, but Sarah McClockland just, she cracks me up. I don't know why. She's like the most self-serious, least funny person out there. Although she was in an episode of Portland, so I got to give her some credit. But anyway, Sarah McClockland, check this up. This is so fucked up. Sarah McLaughlin had a super fan, an obsessed fan, a computer programming fan from Canada. Okay, so I'm assuming a nerd.

And he wrote her all these creepy letters, very, very disturbing stuff. Sarah McClockland then took some of the stalker's own words from those letters and used them in a song that she wrote about obsession called possession. The stalker, this is where it's weird. The stalker then sued Sarah McLaughlin for plagiarizing his words, which she admitted she had done, she didn't admit plagiarism, but she admitted she used the words. It wasn't like she was plagiarizing on purpose, trying to pass it off as her own work, you know, to kind of get by on. people. She was blurring her life with her art in a pretty awesome way, I would say, and also obviously very creepy in a good way. But to make the story even weirder, the case that was brought

by the stalker against Sarah McLaughlin was never resolved because the stalker killed himself. Super dark. Sarah McLaughlin, dark. A music's dark too, or shit's dark. really is for somebody so innocent looking. By the way, there's a fantastic video going around the internet of these two dudes at this at a karaoke club and they get up to sing whatever song Sarah McLaughlin uses in that commercial she does with the dogs that she's trying to save where the dogs are all in cages and the dogs are all beat beat to shit and you know, this is her charity. This is the thing she's doing and I'm not making fun of it. It's a great thing that she's doing, whatever this foundation is. But we've all seen this commercial, I think.

And, you know, Sarah, in addition to the images of the dogs, which are truly horrific, Sarah McLaugh in a very obviously self-serious kind of way is given the VO on the trauma these dogs are facing and why people need to send their money to this foundation. So back to this video that's going around the internet, which is hysterical. These two dudes are at a karaoke bar and they get up and they choose this song and one dude is singing the Sarah McLaughlin part and the other dude is reading the V-O from the commercial about the dogs and the reaction on the people's face in the karaoke. It's just fucking priceless. It's so good. Google that. All right. What other songs? What other creepy obsession songs are there inspired here by Bjork and Ricardo Lopez? There's Stan, of course,

by your favorite and mine, apparently Eminem. We all know that song, so I'm not going to go into it There's a ton of these that we know about one way or another by Blondie, which those lyrics deserve another look. Okay, check those out, another listen. Every breath you take by the police, that's not even worth mentioning. It's so overplayed. But check out Tom Jones' Delilah, all right, where the POV from the singer and the song is about murdering a woman for literally murdering a woman for being with someone else. Tom Jones. I didn't know you had it in India.

One more here, okay? And this is, this is a great song. with or without the obsession context here. Frankie Teardrop by Suicide. Great, great, great song and super creepy. Now, it's more of a modern murder ballad than it is a song about obsession, but it's got a lot of obsession in it. And it's just damn good.

And if you don't know the song, it is a great introduction into one of the coolest bands to ever do it. A band who influenced everyone from through Springsteen to Radiohead. Okay, actually this is reminding me a one more song about obsession. I mentioned murder ballad. So Knoxville Girl by Lovin Brothers is a murder ballad and it is clearly about obsession.

Lots of versions of Knoxville Girl, including one by the Lemonheads, but the Lovin Brothers is the best version. Knoxville Girl might be the song that got me in a country music and super stoked my love for music and crime. It's the story of one man being obsessed with a woman and not being able to deal. And, well, I don't want to spoil it for you,

but go check it out. Go listen to Knoxville. girl and listen to the Louvin brothers version of it. All right. L-O-U-V-I-N-L-L-U-N. And speaking of the Lemonheads, their new single, it's really fucking good. It's called Deep End.

James Askis and Juliana Hatfield are on the track, and it rocks. It's fantastic. Can't wait for the full album, Dando. Bring it. All right. Thank you, Bjork, for sending us down this obsession rabbit hole. Check out the Bjork episode.

If you haven't already, released it just this week. Also this week, we've got our Rewind episode coming up next. this episode and that's on amy winehouse speaking of obsession blake fielder much amy and then next week we've got our new episode on the who coming no obsession here this is a part two of sorts it's a continuation of the who story that we started a while ago that's centered around keith moon part two episode deals with the riverfront coliseum tragedy commonly referred to by mistake as a stampede it was not a stampede you're going to have to listen to hear what i'm talking about and hear what

this actually was but when you're listening to the who episode you're listening to the who be thinking about all the tragedies that we've talked about from rock and roll history we've talked about a lot of them and let me know or anyone can be any rock and roll tragedy even once we haven't talked about and let me know if the who riverfront tragedy is the worst rock and roll tragedy and music history and if not what is all right we could do a whole season on this i'm not going to but it's interesting to talk about because the details are often horrific and just very vivid and great for storytelling so call me with your answers or text them in to me six once 179066638.

You might hear your voice and or your answer on next week's bonus after party episode. You can also DM me your answers to the question of the week at Disgrace and Pod on the socials. Man, I got this song on my fucking head right now. I got to have faith. Gotta have that. Da be wiser. A da-da-da-da-de-de-d-d-d-d-d-do-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-bba-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-dda-da-dda-dda-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. What is that? What is that song? It sounds like a friggin' 90s sitcom. What is that? What is that song? I don't hate it, but something tells me I hated it a long time ago. Let me know what I'm thinking about. All right, I got to take a quick break. I need a drink. Clearly, you can probably hear it in my voice. And I will be back in a flash. And I will be back in a flash. And I will be back in a flash.

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I felt like I got hit by a girl. a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends.

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All right, that's going to ensure that you get all. All of our episodes delivered. You don't miss anything, all right? Sly Stone died this week, which is a real bummer. Sly Stone was an amazing artist, of course, a revolutionary artist, one of the greatest artists in my estimation to come out of the so-called peace and love generation, whatever you want to refer to it as. Sly, of course, had his demons well documented in our disgrace and episode, but Sly also shows

up in a couple other episodes, our Woodstock episode, our Who, Who episode, the first Who episode, that's because the Sly and the Family Stone performance at Woodstock is the best performance at Woodstock. They went on super late and they just completely tore it up, owned the crowd, just incredible. Sly also shows up in one of our Fleetwood Mac episodes, I believe it's the one, I believe it's part two when we get into the recording of rumors. If memory serves, Lindsay Buckingham, they went up to, I believe it's in Salis, is that where Sly had a studio? I'm not sure. Somewhere in Northern California. And Sly had built this pit in the studio where he could lounge and listen to music and record. And there are all these

kind of weird little additions to the studio that Sly had made that were sort of to, I don't know, enhance his state of mind, so to speak. Regardless of disgrace land, regardless of anything we do here, of course, Sly Stone is one of the greatest to do it ever. And he's left a tremendous this legacy of music behind. Slice Stone, rest in peace. 617-906-66-6-3-8, hanging on the telephone with you guys. Every week, I'm in the phone booth,

the same one. It's the one across the hall hanging on the telephone. You want to send me a voicemail? Want to send me a text? All right, let's check out Eric. Eric, Eric, where you at? Eric in the 805.

Hey, Jake. Eric from California, now in Tennessee. love your show just listening to the Marilyn Manson episode um love his first three albums knew about his

accusations and weirdness but after listening to your episode oh my god oh my god um I'm not to get him more it uh yeah

um yeah wow uh yeah yeah you up with that Marilyn Manson episode. You know, take some time. Take some long baths.

You know, clean yourself off. Get all that Manson filth off you. You might be able to come back to the music. Maybe, perhaps. We shall see. Thanks for the call, Eric. All right, let's check out Chips in the 303. Yo, this is Chips from the 303.

Your friendly neighborhood janitor, scrubbing floors. you're asking about crimey books a few weeks ago I'm really behind on Bones episodes I'm trying to catch up right now but you ask for a few I only got one. Maybe I've been reading

books with my lady just outside on the porch while or smoking or etc. The Lovely Bones is a really good book about I mean it's told from the perspective of a dead girl. So it's very existential and

kind of crimey. I wouldn't say deeply climbing, but I mean, the whole story revolves around the crime that was committed on her when she died. And it's super cool, super emotional, a little bit hampy, honestly. Some parts of it can be like, uh, but it really grips your holds and

got a good narrative. Anyway, check it out. Bye-bye. Chips, thanks for the call. Appreciate you, man. Appreciate you listening to us while out there scrubbing the floor is doing the hard work. I had that job once as a young man back when I was in a band. So I know the sweat and the elbow grease. And I love that we're in your ears while you're working.

Someone's recommended this book before The Lovely Bones. And what I love about how you set it up is it's a great what if. You know, it's sort of, I heard someone say once that to write a great book, you have to start with what if. And it has to be this, like, really insane thing. What if the dead person told the story of their murder? You know what I mean? It's a good.

It's good. So I'm intrigued. So I appreciate it, chips. 617-906-663. You guys want to leave me a voicemail. Give me a call. We can talk about anything. We can talk about Marilyn Manson.

We can talk about the Pittsburgh Pirates. We can talk about the Philadelphia Phillies, which I don't understand why this is coming in. but hey, says from the 803 here, as a long-suffering Phillies fan, I feel your pain with the Red Sox. All right, slow down. Long-suffering Phillies fan. Didn't you guys win the World Series

a couple of years ago? Aren't you in the playoffs like every freaking year? I don't know how the Phillies are doing this year. Not as bad as the Pirates. Probably not as the Red Sox either. They were doing pretty damn good last I checked, which was, I don't know,

three, four weeks ago. 8.03 goes on to recommend some, you know, some, what is it? It's basically like a Red Sox snuff film. It's about Game 786. I'm good. I'm good, 803. My man, Ish, from the 781, Massachusetts.

Hey, man, it's Ish. Hope all is well. Figured I'd share. So much intrigue. It's a 1979 world champion Pittsburgh Pirates hat. Did you guys hear two after parties ago, for all the pirates fans out there, two after parties ago, our very astute producer, Matt Bowden, At the end of the episode, the very end, after I read the billboard charts, Matt played a little bit of Pirates history.

Now, I heard it, and I meant to ask Matt what the hell that was, because I had no idea. And then I spaced and I forgot about it and he brought it up. Hey, I wonder if any Pirates fans heard that and figured it out. And none of you did. All you guys are sending me in pictures of your hats like Ish here with this 1979 World Championships Pittsburgh Pirates T-shirt with the pillbox Pirates hat on it. Pictures of riverfront, whatever the hell that stadium is called. Is that what it's called?

Pax Sun, what's it called? Tupac Shakira Stadium in Pittsburgh. But no one picked up on that little bit of Pirates history that we had in the after party for you guys. Go back and listen. Two after parties ago. I believe it's the one the after party that came right after the Go-Go's episode. 9-20 writes in, hey, I saw Nine Ingin' Nails Downward Spiral Tour with Man Manson in the Jimrose circus.

Look into the Jimro circus. Man, you don't need to tell me to look into the Jimro's circus. I saw the Jimro's circus as well. First Lalapalooza. Manson writes about that tour in the book. All right, 808 Texan, in regards to this list that we talked about in the bonus section of last week's afterbody, we talked about it was a list we found of the worst bands of the 90s. It was a very interesting list for a bunch of reasons. and one of them, I don't totally agree with 808 here,

but 808 is saying, in regard to the worst bands of the 90s, I'll be one to say, I like music from all those bands and still listen to this day. This list just reflects how awesome the 90s were, if that's the worst. And that's a damn good point. Shane from the 816, right said, hey, Jake, it's Shane from the 816, worst band of the 90s as well as the 2000s. And even the 80s is fucking ICP, hands down, the worst shit. ever. All caps. 816 has really worked up about ICP. I'm assuming ICP is insane clown posse.

Was insane clown posse around in the 80s? We need to do an insane clown posse episode. That's one of those subjects I'm not very familiar with. And I'm kind of afraid of what the research is going to do to me. But I'm here for it. 617-90666-663. You guys want to hit me up on voicemail, on text, hit me about anything you want to talk about. Insane Clown Posse, Pittsburgh Pirates, Trillers, Novels. All right, Alan writes in, and that's A-L-L-L-Y-N, at Disgraceland Pod on Instagram. Hey, Alan from the 619, I've been a disgraceland fan since the very beginning, turning everyone I know onto your greatness. I grew up in Bakersfield, but now live in San Diego. And a while back, I was driving up to visit my parents who still live there and figured it would be the perfect time

to re-l-haggard episode. I thought I'd have to dig through the archives, but wouldn't you know, it was that week's rewind episode, and there it was at the top of the disgrace land feed. I timed it perfectly as I hit play, coming out of the mountains on the 99 freeway, transition at the base of the grapevine

for the final 40-minute stretch. It ended right when I pulled up to their house, which happens to be right next to Merle's old part of town in Oildale. I took a screenshot of my phone to commemorate the occasion, and then he includes the screenshot. here in the DM. And I think that's damn cool, Alan. Very cool.

Guys want to hit me up about where you listen to disgrace land. Go ahead. You can do that on Instagram. You can do that. 617-90666-66-6-6-3-8 by voicemail or text. I am around and I'm looking forward to talking. What I don't want to talk about, though, is the Red Sox. But I got to do it just a little Mac.

Give me the ticker. Here it comes. Here it comes. It comes to sports rant. A little 30-second sports rant. Now listen, the Red Sox took two out of three from the Yankees. This is just a little. Just to tease people, this isn't real.

This is a sugar high. This is, they're not a good team. Okay, as much as it pains me to say that, they're not a good team. And you know how I know that? Because Rafi Devers is still on the team. And you know why I'm saying that? Because I don't like Rafi Devers. I think the guy, you know, I know he hit a monster shot against the Yankees' home run.

But you know what? He hit it after he dogged it to first base. He could have run that out. He could have easily had a hit. But no. No. it's just, it's indicative of his overall selfish bullshit play. If the guy would just fucking play first base, so many of our problems would be solved.

That's it. But he won't. And we're screwed because we don't have good leadership. And what can I say? The Red Sox. It's like the 1980s. No, worse than that. Early 90s.

That's what we're dealing with here. It's a bunch of bullshit. It's got to change. Help me change it. Don't make me a Pittsburgh Pirates fan. please please i'm rooting for the mets i'm putting all my energy in a rooting for the met's right now i say that but i'm not i haven't watched a met's game since the last time we talked but i don't know man i don't the red sox all right i got to stop talking i'll be back in the flash with your talking your

emails and a little bit of the hollyville man there's two golden rules that any man should live by rule one never mess with a country girl You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And Rule 2, never mess with her friends either. We always say that, trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends... Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist.

I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves.

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and discuss their years spent investigating and why it still matters. He sees his father coming out of the woods with his hands over his face, and he knows something happened. His father just grabs him and says she's gone. She's gone. These are the cases that leave survivors, families, and the journalists who cover them changed forever.

Working in national television, it'll push you to your limits, and you'll end up doing things you never thought you'd do. You know, you look back at it and you're like, I can't believe that really happened. Join me and step inside the investigation. New episodes drop every Monday on the Exactly Right Network. Listen to Wicked Words on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Remember when you'd walk into your local video rental place and there were always those two employees behind the counter arguing about movies?

Well, that's us. I'm Millie de Cherico. And I'm Casey O'Brien. And now we're arguing about movies on our podcast. Dear Movies, I Love You, from the exactly. Right Network. Can I say something about the Criterion Clause? Go ahead, dude. They're letting too many people in there. Okay, that's another film grape I got two. Sadly, that rental place doesn't exist anymore. It's probably a store that sells running shoes. Or an ice cream shop with an extra

P and an E at the end. So consider us your slacker movie clerks in podcast form. I would like to establish a timeline of the moment you figured out who Channing Tatum was. Every Tuesday, we Dig into the movies we can't stop obsessing over. From hidden gems to big screen favorites. New episodes drop every week on the exactly right network. Listen to Dear Movies I Love You on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, we are back and you know what time it is. It's time for the Hollywoodland Minute brought to you by the Hollywood Land podcast.

Yes. Exciting news. I know. I brought to you last week, but I'm going to bring you again this week because I'm getting the message out. Okay, I'm staying on message. We added bonus episodes to Hollywoodland, the rap party, and they're not the same as the after party. These are different.

This is me and my man, Zeth, sitting there every week, chopping it up, talking about that episode, but also talking about our recommendations, what we're getting into as it relates to that Hollywoodland subject. This week, we got into John Belushi. Now, if you don't know what Hollywoodland is, it's Hollywood and true crime. It's very similar to Disgraceland. I host the shows. The bonus episodes, however, are co-hosted, like I just said, by myself and my man Zeth.

We have a ton of episodes in the archive, episodes on Drew Barrymore, John Waters, David Lynch, Jack Nicholson. Just this week, we've got our John Belushi episode in the feed. Check that out. We're going to have a new bonus episode coming up. We're talking about, I'm talking about anyways, music that John Belushi inspired me to listen to. Zeth goes into a bunch of great big man comics and big, man stars from the past and we get into the Belushi episode as well check this out go subscribe to Hollywood land if you're not already here's a little taste of what I'm talking about we may or may not know

I don't know how many of you know this but in the early 80s fear the punk band played on SNL right Zeth you're well aware of this oh yeah yeah and Belushi was responsible for getting fear the gig and complete mayhem erupted when they played all these kids started slam dancing and now you're think this is like, Seth, what year was this? Like, 81? Something like that? It was so early. 95% of your TV viewing audience at home had never seen shit like that before. So I thought I would, you know, for those of you who are interested in hardcore, this is a great introduction vis-à-vis John Belushi.

And there's, if you want to hear some of the music made by the kids in that crowd, the New York hardcore compilation on Revelation Records, it came out. And I believe 1989, perhaps 88, it's called Where the Wild Things, are it's a new york hardcore comp grab that there's also this book zeth you can see it's a book of photographs if you're interested in the dc hardcore end of the spectrum this is called band in dc photos and anecdotes from the dc punk underground in 1970s 85 but these photos are amazing you're from the hr from the bad brains there on the pack a bunch of these kids we're in the s nl audience rubbing shoulders up uh with john belushi all right there you go that's a little bit of hollywill then go

subscribe to the Hollywoodland podcast wherever you get podcasts, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, whichever app you're into, IHart, Amazon Wondery. Go get it. As you just heard there, we had a little bit of the recommendations. I love the recommendations piece. I love talking Rex. I love when you guys give me your Rex. Going to be doing a little bit more of that in the bonus section of this episode, this here after party. You're going to be talking about books, little film, little film, little TV.

Going to get into it. I'm psyched. But if you're not a disgrace land all access member, you're going to miss out on this. So those of you who don't know, five bucks a month, you get all access membership. You get a little bit more of the bonus episode here. You get ad-free listening to every episode, including the Hollywoodland episodes now. You're also going to get one additional full episode per month. Go to disgraceland.com. Slashland.com to hook that up.

Disgracelandpod at gmail.com. Let me know what you think about anything. Hollywoodland, Disgraceland, books you're reading, music, listening to where you're listening to disgrace land. I love those conversations. Disgracelampod at gmail.com. This email comes from Alfie McTeague subject, niche punk bands under the radar. Hi there.

I'm Alfie from here in England. Bournemouth. I know I'm not pronouncing that correctly. It's spelled B-O-U-R-N-E-M-O-U-T-H. I apologize for butchering the name of the town you're from Alfie. Alfie goes on to say, live here in England specifically, and was curious to whether you could look into some bands that have fallen into some obscurity over the years. The Mighty, Mighty Bostones, Agent Orange, and sloppy seconds. I know the Bostones are very well known in the U.S., but not so much in the U.K.

Well, I'm from Boston there, Alfie, so they're, you know, very well known to me. I've known some of those guys. I'm friends with a couple of them. I first saw the Mighty Mighty Bostones play Alfie when I was 16 years old at the Worcester artist group. My band, Cast Iron Hike, was lucky enough to play with the Boston's numerous times. I even had another band, I think, when I was in a band called The Whitey Bulgers, or maybe it was a confidence man. I think we played with the Boston's as well.

Just the best fucking dudes. No crimes there, though. So, I don't know. I don't think there's a Boston's episode coming anytime soon, but I'm happy to talk to you about them on the side here. You want to keep emailing me. Agent Orange and sloppy seconds, I don't know much about, but I will check into it. And if you, Alfie, know of any crimes related to those two bands you want me to look into that I can kind of write a story around.

Hit me back up, Disgracelandpod at gmail.com. Guys, this episode is nearing an end. But as I said earlier, the afterparty continues for all access members. Five bucks a month. You're going to get this extra bonus section of the after party. You're going to get ad-free listening and you're going to get one extra full episode per month. Go to disgracelampod.com slash membership. All right, we are back.

Listen, tons of episodes in the archive. Disgraceland, discos, the heads know this, but the new listeners, we've got over 235 episodes, full episodes for you to binge to check out on so many different artists. I usually recap here at the end of the show. I mention just sort of bring attention to some of the artists we've talked about already in this episode. And if we've done episodes on them in the past, and we have, there's a whole bunch, a couple of them, Bruce Springsteen, Nirvana. We've got two episodes on Nirvana. We've got a great. episode on Pantara. There's a blondey episode. No suicide episode yet, but maybe someday there will be. All right. Let's recap. I got a lot to do today still. I'm leaving tomorrow. I'm going a little vacation, recording this episode a little early. Still got a pack tonight. I got to record a bunch

of ads and I'm going to try to get a swim in too. So damn, I get a boogie. So let's recap. Number one, my other podcast, Hollywoodland, it's alive and it is kicking hard over in the Hollywoodland feed. So make sure you are subscribed and following Hollywoodland and Apple Podcast, Spotify, or wherever you your podcast and check out our recent Hollywoodland episode on John Belushi. And also don't sleep on the rap party. Me and Zeff chopping it up over there. Number two, right now in your disgrace land feed our very latest brand new. Our episode on Bjork. Number three coming tomorrow, our rewind episode on Amy Winehouse. And next Tuesday, our part two on the who. This one gets into the riverfront Coliseum tragedy. Number four, merch winners get in touch. You know who you are. Shit, I forgot

to read the reviews this week. Damn it. I can't go back now. I can't. I can't. I shant. I shunt. I fucked it up. Merch winners. There are none of you this week. Oh, well, we'll do it next week. All right. Leave a review for disgrace, then on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever. Number five, remember no one cares about preserving the true spirit of rock and roll more than you do. And well, that's a disgrace. All right. In honor of this week's subject, Bjork, this is me reading you, the Billboard charts from the day Bjork was born on November 12th, 19. Number one, get off of my cloud, the Rolling Stones. Last week, one, peak position, one, weeks on chart, six. Number two, a lover's concerto, the toys. Last week, two, peak position, two, weeks on churn, ten. Number three, one, two, three, Len Barry. Last week, eight, peak position, three, weeks on church.

Chirp, eight. Number four, you're the one. The Vogue's. Last week, six. Peak position, four. Weeks on chart. Nine. Number five, I hear a symbol of the Supremes.

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