DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode: POV in Storytelling, 1970s Actors, and Sarah Vaughan vs. Ella Fitzgerald

Episode Date: July 25, 2024

This week in the After Party, Jake has the 1970s on his mind as he prepares for next week's episode on Al Pacino. We want to know: Who is the greatest actor of the 1970s? What films and performances f...rom the 70s do you continually revisit? Plus, the conversation about great female singers of the 21st century continues - join the party at 617-906-6638, disgracelandpod@gmail.com, or on socials @disgracelandpod.To cop some new merch, head to disgracelandpod.com/merch now!To hear an extended version of the After Party and more from the DISGRACELAND community, become a Disgraceland All Access member at disgracelandpod.com/membership. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 This is exactly right. Double Elvis. Hey, Discos, need a little more disgrace land in your life? Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the After Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode.
Starting point is 00:00:45 A little thing we like to call The After Party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. On this bonus episode, we are talking about incredible jazz artists. We're also talking about dumb questions from smart people. And Al Pacino and the greatest actors from the greatest decade in filmmaking, the 1970s. And of course, your voicemails, your texts, and more.
Starting point is 00:01:14 And as always, a whole lot of rosy. All right, this goes, let's get it. All right, guys, welcome into the show this week. I'm pumped to be here talking to you. I'm on vacation. I'm recording in an undisclosed location on a spooky lake up in the wilds of New England. And I am in a basement right now, an empty dark room. Looks like somewhere you would stow away, a kidnapper.
Starting point is 00:01:46 If the recording sounds a little boomy, that is because I'm recording in this non-studio environment. But I wanted to get you guys this after-party episode this week. So here you go. I hope you can bear with me. Listen, when I was in my second year of college at Northeastern University, I took a class called A Survey of African American Music. It was a great class, covered everything from field haulers and slave chants from the 1700s all the way up to modern day hip-hop. Our professor, he was a jazz guy, though. I think he played with Alice Coltrane at some point.
Starting point is 00:02:19 I'm not sure. Even so, I didn't understand at the time how cool that was then. I now do, of course. I also remember our professor was friends with Max Roach, the great jazz drummer, and he even had Max come speak to the class and that type of coolness I understood immediately. Professor Brown, that was our teacher. He was reasonable. He was thoughtful. He was measured, if not a bit dramatic. The first day of class, I remember he grabbed the best looking, most athletic-looking white boy in the class in the classroom and made him stand up on his desk. And then the professor proceeded to reenact an 18th century slave auction using the kid as the student as a prop. It was heavy and the white boy handled it well and I remember being impressed with both
Starting point is 00:03:08 professor and the kid. Professor Brown was a weird cat, but he had great tastes, especially in jazz music. From Dixieland to standards to bebop to harbop to Afro-Cubin to fusion, whatever the style, Professor Brown had a great way of explaining the evolution of jazz from genre to genre in human terms objectively. Now my taste along, of course, with some of my classmates, expanded rapidly because of this class, and so did my understanding of America's first artistic contribution to the world, jazz music. I still love jazz music, of course, and I'm still trying to understand it, not in technical terms. I've never cared much for that. That's not my thing, but in human terms. And that's what are Miles Davis and Billy Holiday and Chet Baker and Sunny Rollins episodes are about.
Starting point is 00:04:01 They're about me trying to understand the men and the women who made this incredibly unique and incredibly inspiring music. They quite literally dedicated their lives to and for most died in the pursuit of their creations. Now, was Miles Davis the best trumpet player to ever work in the genre? Was Billy Holiday, the best vocalist, the best female jazz vocalist? I can certainly make a case for both. I can't for Chet Paker, by the way, as a trumpet player, but as a singer, perhaps. I'm still learning about Sunny Rollins, even after releasing our episode on them. These questions of who is the best, they're silly, but they're useful.
Starting point is 00:04:38 There is, of course, no right answer, no wrong answer, but these questions prompt discovery. And that's what me doing this podcast is all about for all of us, for you and for me. You know, be it the Johnny Cash reel we released this week on Instagram about Johnny Cash being literally the first American to learn of Joseph Stalin's death. That's a big revelation for a lot of people. They didn't know that. My wife even was like, are you sure this is true? I'm like, I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:05:06 It's true. Look it up. It's a fact. And that's, you know, discovering these facts, these quote unquote holy shit moments that happened in music history or in the history of entertainment. it's just as much discovery from me as it is for you guys. And these questions that we ask in the after party, they're also about discovery.
Starting point is 00:05:27 They're meant to prompt discovery. I asked this question to you guys last week here in the after party and on social media of who the greatest singer of the 21st century is, not because I'm interested in proving my take to be right. I could give a shit about that. Amy Wynos, you may recall, is my answer to that question, by the way. And again, 21st century, not that. the 20th century. A lot of people got that mixed up. I was specifically talking about the last
Starting point is 00:05:52 24 years. But I ask these questions in part because I want to learn more about these other artists who would not be my choice. I'm soliciting education in a way. I want to get you guys to teach me about the artists and the entertainers that you love and I want to know why you love them because that's going to provide me with an on-ramp to get me into other music, other films, etc. So because of you guys, I will be listening to Pink and Adele with fresh ears. Something that wouldn't have happened had this question not come up and had you guys not so passionately responded. Now, back in that survey of African American music at Northeastern University, I remember we had a big exam. It was a midterm or a final. I can't remember which. And our professor told us
Starting point is 00:06:39 that there would be only three questions on the exam. And I don't remember necessarily what the first two questions were exactly, but the answers were somewhat subjective, answers where we had to demonstrate in an essay, or an essay's broad understanding of the music that we learned in the course along with some indication of how our tastes had evolved. The answer to the last question, however, was also subjective, but only from the professor's point of view. He told us that the final question on the exam would be, who is the greatest singer in the history of music? And that there could only be one answer to the question of who the greatest singer in the history of music was. And that that answer was Saravan.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Now, he also said that if we got cute and we tried to answer anything else, try to argue anything else, try to argue that maybe it was another singer, Billy Holiday, Chepp Baker, perhaps even arguing for other artists that we had learned about in his class, that if we did not answer Sarah Vaughn, that if we did not claim that Sarah Vaughan, that if we did not claim that Sarah Vaughn was the greatest singer in the history of music, we would get the question wrong and lose a third of our exam is great and would be well on our way to failing. I remember thinking that the question and the stubbornness around the quote unquote answer was bold. I liked it. And I'm pretty sure I aced that exam. But the professor was, of course, wrong. The answer is,
Starting point is 00:08:06 of course, Ella Fitzgerald, not Sarah Vaughn. You can fight me, Professor Brown. Just listen to side one of Ella singing the Cole Porter songbook and then come talk to me about Sarah. I'll do respect. But the bummer of that class and that exam and that weird question is that for as much as we covered in that class, I don't really remember covering Saravan. I don't really recall being taught any examples of Saravan's greatness, of what songs I should listen to to consider her greatness, of what albums I should listen to. The question, as bold as it was and the silly forced answer didn't prompt any evolution in taste. And that is what I'm hoping to accomplish with the questions that we ask and discuss in and around these bonus episodes. So to the question
Starting point is 00:08:56 of who the greatest singer of the 21st century is, like I said, my answer was Amy Winehouse. And if you want my reasoning, if you want to start somewhere to discover Amy's greatness, then look no further than her second LP back to black. There literally isn't a bad song on it. And in the meantime, I'll be checking out some of the recommendations from you guys on who you believe the greatest singer of the 21st century is. Also later in this episode, I'm going to have some specific follow-ups to your answers. But for now, I have another question. Next week's full episode of Disgraceland is on Al Pacino. And the story is about how Al nearly derailed his incredible one-of-a-kind acting career before even really gets started. So coming into this episode as I was organizing, organizing my thoughts. I was thinking that I could ask something cheeky about like what Al Pacino movie could you absolutely not not live without. But I don't like that question. It's, it's, it's hard to even form your question. So that's probably an indication that it's not a good question. I want to get more basic here because basically you can argue that Al Pacino is the greatest actor
Starting point is 00:10:02 from the greatest decade in filmmaking, the 1970s. Now, at least if you were to survey my movie watching history over the course of my life. I think that Al Pacino movies from the 1970s, the Godfather 1 and 2, Serpico, Dog Day Afternoon. These films are among my most watched, most loved movies. But I want to look at 70s movies through your eyes. So I want to know, who do you think is the greatest actor or actress from that decade from the 1970s? And very important, please tell me which films of theirs that I need to watch even if it's super obvious and you're going to be like oh well he's definitely seen the sting by you know with Robert Redford and paul newman which i have but if you write me this impassioned answer or leave me a voicemail
Starting point is 00:10:54 about why uh the sting puts paul newman over the top when considering the best actors of the 1970s, I'm now going to watch the sting with a little bit of your point of view. And that's what I'm looking for. Okay? Which films make you believe that your actor or actress is better than Al Pacino in the 1970s? Or at least which 70 films, your favorite 70s actors keep driving you back to watch over and over again? Who are those actors? Who are the best? Who is the best? Who is the best? Who is the single best representation of the greatest acting, the most compelling acting in the decade of the 1970s. Is it Robert De Niro? Is it Merrill Streep? Is it Merrill Stee DeVall? Is it Robert Redford? Dustin Hoffman? Fade Dunaway. Paul Newman. Which actor or actress owned the 70s for you? Let me know.
Starting point is 00:11:44 617-906-66-36-338. You can leave me a voicemail with your answer or you can send me a text with your answer. You can hit me up at Discracelam Pod on Instagram X, Facebook and TikTok. I'm going to take a quick break and I'll be back in a flash. All right, we are back. I want to dive right into your voicemails here. This is Lauren from the 208 on the subject of the greatest female singers of the 21st century. Hey, Jay, this is Lauren from the 208.
Starting point is 00:12:32 I think we're missing Lawrence Welch and the greatest female singers from the 21st century. Listening to her is an absolute spiritual experience. Something I really didn't feel since my teen years listening to Tori Amos. She's just incredible.
Starting point is 00:12:48 So I think she definitely needs to be added to that list. I love what you do. Keep up the good work. Thanks. Bye. Lauren, thanks for the call. Florence Welch is admittedly someone that I don't know that much about, but someone that I am excited to get into. I don't know much about Florence, but everything I've heard from her just in passing
Starting point is 00:13:08 has kind of stopped me and been like, oh, I got to know more about this artist. So thanks for the prompt. I appreciate it. The 505 on the Jackson's. Let's hear from the 505. Hey, Jake Nile style from Santa Fe. You know, one time, a long time ago, you mentioned that you had something that was going to take a whole lot more than one episode. It was going to take a whole series, and I thought, okay, he's finally going to do the Jackson family, including the father, I think. But I think it ended up being Wutang.
Starting point is 00:13:49 You don't talk about Michael much or Janet or their dad or anything. of the other kids. But there's stuff there. We know there's stuff there. Anyway, loving what you do. You have a good, beautiful, beautiful day. Okay, here's the thing. There's not a reason, really, that I have not covered Michael Jackson, except, actually,
Starting point is 00:14:14 that's not true. There is a reason. There's so much there, and I honestly cannot pick a lane, excuse me, a point of, a point of, I have a point of view, but it's changed dramatically. from time to time. And maybe perhaps if I'm being totally honest, if I'm speaking honestly, I'm a little bit intimidated on the subject of Michael Jackson.
Starting point is 00:14:36 I think that I have many conflicting thoughts on Michael in the supposed transgressions that surround him. And I've read a lot, I've watched a lot, and I've heard a lot, even secondhand, excuse me, firsthand from folks. and it's just a lot and I feel like it's the type of subject that could swallow me up for an entire, you know, three months trying to figure out the research for. And that's happened to me before, and it's not fun. That happened to me two summers ago with Serge Gainsburg.
Starting point is 00:15:13 I researched and outlined an entire season on Serge Gainsburg that we were going to produce and voice. And a French actor was going to voice. We're going to release it in France. and I spent all this time on this one artist, and it ate me up. Needless to say that, that series never came out. We ended up doing a single episode on Surge, and my point of view on him was completely screwed up from just the weight of that subject matter.
Starting point is 00:15:38 505, you know, you're talking specifically about doing a longer series on the whole family. And, yeah, that could be interesting, but I just feel like there's so much to bite off with Michael alone. that it would be weird to dedicate time to his brothers and sisters and even his dad. And I know what his dad. I know the stories about his dad. But with Janet, I'm curious what you're talking about. Other than the nip slip from the Super Bowl, I don't really know what, if any transgressions
Starting point is 00:16:11 are there regarding Janet Jackson. Of course, now people are going to bombard me and just fill my inbox with shit that Janet Jackson has pulled off in her career. And I'm here for it. Let me know. And anyone else, if you have any interesting takes on how to cover the Jacks, excuse how to cover Michael Jackson, I'm here for that as well. Five, six two.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Let's hear from five, six two and some suggestions. Hey, Jake. Is there one again? Stories to do. I would love to hear something on Jenny Rivera. You know, she has an interesting life. A lot of people don't know that she even did journalism as well. was a singer and all the other stuff.
Starting point is 00:16:54 So if you could cover that, that would be really great. Also, Teddy Pandergrass. Definitely. Think would that be an interesting story. Would love to hear something about Teddy. If you very done something, you know, I'll listen to people say that and I'll look for it. Otherwise, hey, have a great day and look forward to more stuff from you. I've literally never heard of Jenny Rivera.
Starting point is 00:17:21 So listen, 562. I want you to get back in touch, and I want you to give me one song to listen to. Teddy Pedigrass, for sure. There is an episode there, and I'm interested in learning more about Teddy from the little that I do know. I know that we can get an episode out of that subject, and I'm excited to perhaps try to figure that up. All right, guys, 617-9066638.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Be like the 208, the 505, and the 562, and hit me up with your voice. Mills. You can hit me up on anything. You hit me up on the question of the week. We're talking about who the greatest actor is of the 1970s. We want to narrow this down to one. Okay. All right. Let's do some DMs. Okay, JQ DMs us on Instagram. That's at Disgraced Lampod. He says, I agree that Amy Winehouse is the best female artist in the 21st century. So far, I would like to give an honorable mention to Imelda May from her amazing psychobilly sound to the soul-breaking black tears. She deserves some of your audiences love and appreciation. Amelda May, you say.
Starting point is 00:18:27 JQ, thanks for the DM. Never heard of her. And I'm going to use, I picked your message because the psychobilly genre is one that I am woefully ignorant of and I don't, I can't even, I mean, I'm up on garage music. It's just psychobilly. There's a, you know, rockabilly. I'm up on rockabilly. I'm up on rockabilly.
Starting point is 00:18:48 It's kind of a void. So hit me up with some. recommendations. You can start with hitting me up with some amelda May. When you say soul breaking black tears, is that a song? I want to know, JQ. Get back at us and let me know. Quincy R. Tuggle DMs us on Instagram. It just sends a video of a female singer named Jasmine Sullivan singing her ass off. And I've never heard this artist before. Guys, I need more. This is the point I was making in the earlier block. Quincy, get back to me. Let me know where to start. What album do I start with of jasmans or what what other song besides this this live clip that you sent me uh jesse rachmat i think i'm
Starting point is 00:19:28 saying that correctly r a c h m a t dm's on instagram adele adele is just on a different level i've never been as emotional as i have been with her songs they are gut wrenching all right jesse give me the songs give me the one adele song that you cannot live without if you're going to play one adele song for one person, that person being me, which Adele song is it? Even if it is the most obvious, her biggest single, whatever it is, rolling in the deep, whatever. I want to listen to it through your ears now, okay? Hit me up.
Starting point is 00:20:03 Mark R. Yazagir, I believe I'm saying that, pronouncing that correctly. Mark tags us on X and says, today I learned that Johnny Cash as an Air Force wireless operator may have been the first American to learn of Joseph Stalin's death via disgrace land pod. You are correct, Mark. That is something that I've learned. I learned a couple years ago when I was researching the Johnny Cash episode of Discraceland, which lives on in our archive, which I encourage you, Mark, to check out. Keeley Diggleman on Facebook writes,
Starting point is 00:20:35 Hey, Jake, I usually don't respond. As I always think, with Facebook being the least used social, it'll probably get to you too late. Anyway, just wanted to weigh in on best female singers. I love music because it makes me feel things, and these women really hit me in the soul and give me shivers. Obviously, Amy Winehouse loved her since the moment I heard her, but here's the others.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Florence Welch from Florence in the Machine, any album, any song I can listen to her all day. Favorite song is Dog Days Are Over. Number two, Amy Lee from Evanescence, beautiful, talented artists. Three and Four, Sia and Kate Miller Heikey, both amazing artists. Number five, Billy Eilish, the amount she has grown since starting is wonderful. She is highly talented from the way she puts her songs together to how she wants her music videos to produce. The documentary on her is great.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Few of her songs bring so much emotion out in me that I find tears welling up. This is fantastic. This is a great message. I appreciate it, Keeley. I'm going to dig into these recommendations. Guys, hit me up at Disgraceland Pod. You can hit me up on the questions of the week that we're asking. Even if they're old, you're still giving me fodder to reevaluate my listening taste with.
Starting point is 00:21:43 and I appreciate that, but also we got this question of the week that we're going to be discussing in next week's after party. And that question, of course, is who is the greatest actor from the greatest decade in filmmaking, the 1970s? Let us know. Now, we dropped some new merch a couple, about a month ago. We did the disgrace land, just straight up white logo on a black t-shirt, and we did the rock-a-rolla T-shirts. I'm going to do my best to just keep these stocked. These are like basic merch items. They're there.
Starting point is 00:22:14 They're in the merch store for you. We've got some pins as well. Grab those. One of the things we're going to start doing ASAP, right now, as a matter of fact, we're in it. We're doing it. We're making it happen. I can't believe we haven't figured this out before. And all props to Disgracelands, executive producer, extraordinaire, Matt Bowden for being like,
Starting point is 00:22:33 yo, motherfucker, why aren't we doing this? We have all this incredible episode art for every episode of disgracelam, over 170 episodes. There's 170 pieces of art or something like that. And from Avi Spivik, who's fantastic. So we've been laboring for the last couple of months to just use this art to create different merch specific to the episode. So if you love the, I don't know, Amy Winehouse episode of Disgrace. You can get that art specifically on a T-shirt. If you love the Johnny Cash episode of Disgracing, you can get that episode art, that great Johnny Cash illustration that Avi created on a T-shirt.
Starting point is 00:23:12 we're going to be rolling that out in the next few seconds, okay? Keep an eye on our socials for that. That'll be out shortly. And I'm going to start doing my best to be engaged with the merch side of things, just like I was in the beginning of disgrace land. And we did this thing way back in the day where we would, it was a cool way for me to engage directly with you guys. You guys would leave reviews on Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:23:37 and I'd pick a reviewer every month or, sorry, every week. You also leave, you know, shout us out on social media and tag us at Disgraceland Pod, about an episode that we were into. And then I'd send you some free merch as a thank you. Now, listen, this isn't for everybody. This is just, you know, I pick a couple listeners every week and pick you out of a hat. And it's like, yo, hey, just a little thank you. I'm going to send you something cool. So that's what we're going to keep doing here. We're going to continue doing that. We're going to do it with more regularity. And when I come back after the break, I'm going to talk about a couple of you listeners who have recently reviewed the show.
Starting point is 00:24:17 And if you hear your name, you're going to get in touch. And I'm going to send you some merch. All right, back in a flash. Okay, we are back. And as promised, some reviews here on Apple podcast listener, Andy Girl, that's three L's. I love, love, love this podcast. Familiar, fascinating stories told with insight and details. I've not heard anywhere else.
Starting point is 00:24:52 I'm addicted. So listen, Andy, girl. thank you first and foremost get in touch and we've got we've got some merch that we want to send you okay sunberry also writes on apple madly entertaining jake is a wonderful storyteller oh thank you sunberry goes on to say i've learned so much about artists and actors that i thought i knew this is my go-to podcast to work out to or to go walking to by far sunberry if you hear your name and i hope you do i hope you're on your walk right now you're hearing your name and you're getting pumped get in touch Hit us up at Disgracelampod. Disgracelandpod at gmail.com.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Same for you. Andy Girl, get in touch, and we've got some merch for you. Okay, I'm not going to sit here and read a bunch of reviews to you guys about the show more than what I've just done. Trying to, you know, be a little humble here. But one of the things that I've come across in these reviews over and over again, and it really warms my heart, is the mention of point of view and how we have our own point of view. And listen, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad. Sometimes you're going to agree with my point of view into storytelling, and sometimes you're not going to agree with it. But it is compelling one way or another.
Starting point is 00:26:02 And I have found this thing to this recent phenomenon in content creation that is happening and it is widespread. And it is this. There is a style of storytelling that is everywhere on Instagram, on TikTok, on, especially on YouTube, that is completely devoid of point of view. It is the opposite of what we do. And it is massive. And I actually saw a content creator, I won't name them, have pretty much have a,
Starting point is 00:26:45 the equivalent of, it was nearly a nervous breakdown in public over the comments and reviews that he was receiving based on his opinions and his point of view. And I'm not making fun of this person. In fact, I have a lot of empathy for this person. I felt really bad for this person. The person has a ton of followers too. And this is their livelihood, like it is mine. And basically, their solution was to abandon point of view and to just present facts as they are. Just present the story as it is. And that's certainly a choice. And that is a choice that I'm not going to knock. anyone for taking. It's not the choice I would make because it's not interesting to me. It's not interesting for me to create. It's not interesting for me to consume.
Starting point is 00:27:34 All great storytelling, in my opinion, comes from incredible point of view. And that goes from anything from a 60 second reel on Instagram, from a content creator that you've never heard of to Martin Scorsese's Last Temptation of Christ. Okay? It's just point of view is what is going to make the storytelling. But we live in a world now where algorithms drive distribution. They drive discovery. They drive people hearing and learning about the content that you are creating. So if you are, let's say, sitting on a fence as a content creator, if you are neutral, if you're just like, here are the facts, this is the thing that happened. These are the facts that we know. And you walk away from it, leave everything on the table.
Starting point is 00:28:23 there is a massive audience that is going to gravitate toward you. There is a massive audience that is going to accept what you're giving them, take it, digest it, and move on. And that's fine, but again, that is not interesting to me. Okay? And like I said, the algorithms reward that type of content creation because it is safe and because it is going to appeal to more people, therefore they will promote it more. Now, the only way that point of view storytelling survives on these algorithms is because of you guys, because you guys share it, because you guys go, yo, this might not be for everybody, but I fucking love it.
Starting point is 00:29:09 And I'm going to screenshot this podcast and I'm going to put it in my story on Instagram. Or, yo, I'm going to sit at the bar on Saturday night next to my drunk uncle who thinks he knows everything about fucking music and I'm going to school him on some shit because he has no idea what I just learned about in disgrace land. Or, hey, I just, I'm going for a walk with my wife. I want to talk about something interesting that I just found out about. And you talk about what we're creating here because the point of view compels you. It's not just, here's the facts, ma'am. You know what I'm saying? Anyways, all I'm saying, I guess is I'm going to keep doing what I'm doing. But I need you guys to keep doing it. And I appreciate.
Starting point is 00:29:49 all of the love, all of the organic promotion that you guys do for this show. It means everything to us. Okay? Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. So on point of view and storytelling, I'm going to take a quick break. And then when I come back, we get into the all-access portion of the show.
Starting point is 00:30:09 I'm going to talk about the book that I'm reading right now, which is The Exorcist. And I'm reading that because, like I said, I'm staying on a spooky lake. But we have an Exorcist episode that's coming out in October. I'm going to talk about that storytelling because it's fucking great. If you guys want in on the all-access version of this episode, you want to hear the extended version of the after-party where we get into more. We also get into more of your text and voicemails. And again, like I said, dive deeper into these stories.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Just, you know, all-access membership. It's not only going to get you that, but it's also going to get you ad-free listening. And an extra full episode per month. It's easy to sign up. It's not expensive. It's $5 a month. We greatly appreciate it. you can sign up at disgracelandpod.com slash membership.
Starting point is 00:31:10 All right, welcome back. I'm about to get out of here, but before I do, before next week's Al Pacino episode, get pumped, okay? Go watch The Godfather, one and two, okay? Watch Serpico, watch Dog Day Afternoon. Watch heat. How good is heat, by the way? We don't talk about heat enough as a society.
Starting point is 00:31:25 I mean, we do, you and I. But I just feel like it doesn't get mentioned as the great movie. It's not up there on the Mount Rushmore. It should be. Who's read the new Heat book? I heard it's amazing. I have not read it. I'll probably move on to that after I finish this exorcist.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Okay? So yeah, if you've read it, let me know, get in touch. In the meantime, let's recap, shall we? Number one, there's more after party to listen to right now. All you got to do is go to the show notes and click the link to become a member. Number two, right now in your feed last week's brand new episode on Donnie Hathaway. Number three, coming tomorrow, a special rewind episode from our archive. We're talking to Al Pacino, like I said next week, and I'm already in a heavy's
Starting point is 00:32:03 heavy 70s state of mind over it. And if you want more of that 70s vibe, more of that 70s New York vibe, we got you covered in the archive, in the disgrace land archive with episodes on Blondie, the Ramones, New York Dolls, a recent episode on Talking Heads, of course, which we were just talking about. Get into him this weekend. Get hyped for the Prince of the 70s, Al Pacino. Number four, I want to know, is Al Pacino the greatest actor of the 1970s? Let me know who you think is. 617-9066638. Call me on the telephone, leave me a voicemail, or text me, hit me up at Disgracelampot on the socials. Number five, remember no one cares about great storytelling more than you do. And well, that's just a disgrace. All right. In honor of Al Pacino's
Starting point is 00:32:42 first Oscar win for best supporting actor in The Godfather, going back to March 27, 1973, I give to you the Billboard charts from that week. Number one, love train, the OJs. Last week, three, peak position, one, weeks on chart. 10. Number two, Killing Me Softly with his song, Roberta Flack. Last week, one. Peak position, one. Weeks on chart, nine. Number three, also, Sprak Zarathustra, 2001.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Diodato, last week, four. Peak position, three. Weeks on chart. Eight. Number four, neither one of us by Gladys Nye and the Pips. Number two, last week. Killing me song. Peechews on chart.
Starting point is 00:33:37 Last 10. Number five, peak position for one. That's on chart. Last one. Five. Number five. Pizition. All right.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Weeks on church. Number six. Quit talking and start mixing.

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