DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode: Punk Albums By Artists Who Weren’t Punk, and Rolling Stone Rage Baits All Punk Rockers Everywhere, and Weezer is coming to Disgraceland

Episode Date: May 21, 2026

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obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know that the best history is the history that gets buried. Discraceland is where I tell the stories they didn't want told, the kind you'll end up telling someone else. All right, discos, let's get into it. So I'm writing about Kim Gordon and Thurston Moore from Sonic Youth this week. It's for an upcoming episode, obviously, and the episode is less about one of the coolest rock and roll couples to ever take the stage together, though it's partly about their relationship, but it's more about the true crime at the heart of the Sonic Youth album cover for Goo, one of the coolest album covers of all time. And Cool, the concept of cool, it came up over and over again in the Sonic Youth research and in the research

for the crime photo depicted in the album's art. Cool as in cool sound, cool look, cool attitude, cool as in cool way of living your life, cool as it being cool to each other, to your fans, to your wife, cool thing, all of that, okay? Sonic Youth were the coolest, and then they weren't. Thurston Moore lost his cool, but you can't take away from what that band was, from what they created, from the impact that they had. I did a podcast interview last week on a show with some friends of mine, a show called Stuff They Don't Want You to Know.

It's not out yet, but it'll be a podcast. out soon. And they asked me to describe Sonic Youth. And I said that the band was a mix of East Coast No Wave and West Coast hardcore. And I suppose that that's just the music historians half-cute way of describing their music. In describing Raymond Pettabon, the artist who created the artwork for Sonic Youth, Gou, Greg Ginn from Black Flag's brother, Petibon, the dude who created all those great black flag album covers, SSD flyers, you recognize this stuff. I described Pettibon in the following way. This is when I was writing about the episode yesterday, by the way, not in the podcast interview. But I wrote the following. In a word, Pettabon's work is punk.

Here are some other words. Pettibon's art is subversive. It's dangerous, larceness. And again, totally unique. Like real punk, no matter the context, 70. 80s, East Coast, West Coast, UK, US, you know it when you hear it. With Petibon's art, you know it when you see it. Now about Sonic Youth, I wrote, when Sonic Youth began back in 1981, they weren't punk. Punk was dead. They weren't new wave. They were no wave. They weren't just loud. They were noise. And they weren't your typical rock and roll band set up. There was a girl in the band and her name was Kim, Kim Gordon, and she was a badass. Not some cutesy ornament, not some sultry frontwoman. She was gorgeous, sure, but beyond stereotyping. Her beauty seemed to spring from her strength,

not polish. So in trying to describe the coolness of this band, the coolness of the artist, Raymond Petibon that they collaborated with, the coolness of the goo album cover, I kept coming up against the word punk. And Sonic Youth was heavily influential. influenced by 70s punk rock. Thurston Moore was there at nearly every important late 70s, early 80s, New York City punk moment. Yet Sonic Youth, they're not really thought of as a punk band. They're thought of as something else, and that's fine.

I don't really care, only so much as a matter of my own intellectual curiosity. How do we categorize this band or any band from the 80s or 90s who came out of the influence of punk? Again, back to what I said, like real punk no matter the context, 70s, 80s, East Coast, West Coast, UK, US, you know it when you hear it. Now, have you ever heard Jerry Lee Lewis's Live at the Star Club album from 1964? If that is not punk rock, I don't know what it is. How about the Sonics album? Here are the Sonics from 1965.

Also, way punk. These albums are punk in sound, if not attitude. But what about Miles Davis is on the corner, that record from 1972, or John Lennon sometime in New York City, also from 72? The attitudes expressed by these artists on these albums, they're about as subversive as you'll find on anything by the Ramones or the clash. But punk rock, as a musical term, it didn't come into play until after Jerry Lee Lewis and the Sonics and Miles and John. It didn't come into play until 1972 when Lenny Kay used the phrase punk rock in his liner notes to his excellent nugget. its compilation. Now, Miriam Webster, the dictionary, defines punk rock as rock music marked by extreme and often deliberately offensive expressions of alienation and social discontent.

So by that definition, all of the albums I mentioned, Jerry Lee Lewis's Star Club, The Sonics, the Sonics, the John Lennon sometime in New York City album, even Miles Davis is on the corner. all of these by that definition could be considered punk rock but they're not and i kind of get it again to me the first punk rock album is the ramones album the self-titled album from 1976 all these albums came before and there's a whole host of other albums that are punk in attitude and in sound but aren't considered punk so what are they what albums by which artists are punk in attitude even in sound, but are not considered punk rock. Johnny Cash at San Quentin, LCD sound systems,

dance yourself clean, peaches, the teaches of peaches, Paul McCartney's Ram, Tori Amos' Strange Little Girls, Zappa, Massive Attack, Beefheart, what albums by which artists are punk and attitude, by your estimation, even in sound, but are not considered punk rock? What do you got? Let me know. 617-906-66-38 voicemail and 107. text. This is a fascinating question that I'm hoping we can dissect in debate here in the

afterparty over the coming weeks and coming episodes. Again, 617-906-66-66-3-8. Let me know which albums are not considered to be punk rock, but that are. Now, none of the albums or artists that I just mentioned are listed on the new Rolling Stone list of 100 greatest punk rock albums of all time. This list, I refuse to get upset about it. I can no longer emotionally attach myself to the monsters at Rolling Stone Magazine who create these godforsaken lists. This one released two days ago has been called, among other things, absolute chaos.

And, you know, that's for those of us who are, you know, less emotionally centered than I am, I guess, and less susceptible to complete and total rage bait, which, which, God damn, this list. the fall over circle jerks turnstile above Johnny Thunders green day above minor threat this list will drive you nuts but I'm not going to let it drive me nuts I'm not now Zeth and I are going to get into this list and we're going to discuss the insane thinking around punk rock over at Rolling Stone in the exclusive section of this after party and we're also going to get into the mechanics a little bit into the mechanics behind these lists how they're put together we talked about that that great New York Times list a couple weeks ago about the greatest living American songwriters.

We have some information about how that list came to be, some behind the scenes action. We're going to talk about that, all coming up, like I said, in the exclusive section of the afterparty. Go to disgracelandpod.com to sign up to become an all-access member and unlock exclusive content like this, plus ad-free content. Now, in the feed this week, our new episode on Christina Grimmie from The Voice and her, it's a terribly sad and inexplicable murder. And what happened to her, it's just awful.

But it's an episode worth listening to, so check that out. We're going to hit upon that a little bit later in the after party here. Coming up this weekend in the rewind slot, our classic episode on Anthony Bourdain, okay, speaking of punks who weren't punk, Bourdain wasn't a musician either, but he was a rock star. So I had to tell this story, and I can't wait for you guys to hear this episode if you have not already. It's more of a tribute than it is an expose, but trust me, you're going to find it revelatory, you're going to find it revealing in ways that you won't believe, even if you've seen every no reservations episode, or if you've read all of Bordane's books, there's a lot of meat on

this bone, pun intended. Now, that's coming up on Sunday. All right, you can listen while you're getting Sunday dinner together, okay? You know, seems, seemed apt, right? Cook, listen to the Bordane disgrace and episode. Sunday is my day to cook, by the way, and listen to stuff. I find it to be very relaxing, but I'm getting off topic. Listen, next week, in our next new episode, this one is going to be on Weezer. That's right, Weezer. Now, what true crime is there possibly to tell about Weezer? That's what you're asking yourself right now.

Is it Rivers Cuomo's belief in the algorithm? Is it his complicated relationship with massage parlors? What about a bass player who lived that debauchrous rock and roll lifestyle a little too fully? All the way to an early grave. Yes, that happened. or perhaps it's about a shootout with the cops. How about it's about all of this and more? This is the Weezer story like you've never heard it before,

so do not sleep on this upcoming new episode of Disgraceland on Tuesday. My favorite Weezer album, by the way, is Pinkerton, and not just because it was recorded right down the street from the apartment I was living in at the time, but because it is heavy, H-E-A-V-Y. But it was a flop as well. commercially have flopped, and it's probably Rivers Cuomo's least favorite

Weezer album. Any way you look at it, Pinkerton is a departure from what we've come to know and expect Weezer to sound like. So, when you're listening to the Weezer episode of Disgraceland next week, be thinking about what your favorite album is by a band that is a total outlier of an album, okay, that is totally different from anything else in their catalog. Albums like Pink Floyd's Metal or Neil Young's Shocking Pink's, or Paul McCartney's, Run Devil Run, Metallica's Lulu even.

Let me know. 617-90666-6-36-3-8. That's going to be the question of the week for next week, voicemail and text at disgracelam pod on the socials disgracelam pod at g-email.com. You want to email me. I'll be back right after this to hear from you guys, to hear from you on text, your voicemail, et cetera. Back in the flash.

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My daughter, she's pretending she doesn't know, but is trying to cook and feed me and keep me alive because I wasn't eating anything and me pretending like everything was fine. He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move. And he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off. And that was the last time I saw him. Listen to season 14 of Family Secrets on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Joy is essential and it's also elusive. But now there's a new and exciting way to start your journey toward a more joyful existence.

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I stop eating at like 8 o'clock at night. And I don't eat again until, noon the next day. It's now, as I record this, eight minutes to noon, it's 1152. And what happens is, typically, come 11 a.m., I'm ready to just kill somebody. I'm so angry because I'm so hungry. But then, you know, and then I'm going to eat at 12. That's the plan. But then 12 comes and my hunger goes away. It's crazy, crazy. And I'm hitting that phase right now. Right now as we're talking.

I don't know why I thought you'd find this interesting, but I did. Anyhow, there you have it. I'm back. I'm in the phone booth. It's the one across the hall. You know what I'm doing, even though I'm hungry or maybe I'm not hungry anymore. I can't tell. I'm hanging on the telephone.

Let's hear from you guys. All right. Let's hear from D in the 214 on, you guys still want to talk about this and that's fine. You want to keep talking about the Mount Rushmore of Gone Too Soon. I'm here for it. This is Dee's take. Hey, Jake, it's Dee from Dallas, and I'm late getting in with my gone too soon, Mount Rushmore. And that is Amy Winehouse, Chris Cornell, Chester Bennington, and of course, Kurt Cobain. Also, have you ever done that episode on the conspiracy theory behind the,

Chris Cornell and Chester Bennington air quotes suicides maybe you should bye all right thank you thank you for checking in

thanks for giving us your list I haven't done anything on the air quotes end of life stuff there with Chris Cornell and Chester Bennington I have looked into it I can't find anything credible that supports the conspiracy theory and I know that it is

kind of sort of somewhat in a roundabout way connected to Anthony Bourdain. So, and like I said, that episode is coming up in the rewind slot in a couple days. And again, I looked into it, didn't find anything credible. If you found anything credible, keyword credible, by all means, send it to me, and I'll look at it with fresh eyes. Thanks, Dee. All right, let's see what Rick's doing in 317. Hey, Jake.

It's a original 317. Love your show. It's awesome. I've been to it for years. Yeah, usually what I'm doing is just having a cocktail and sitting back and being in forums. But keep doing what you're doing. I was going to ask if you were going to do a show maybe on a well-water conspiracy with John McBain, who had ties in with Monster Magnets, ties in with Queens and Stone Age.

So I don't know how much debauchery is going on that, but with those names, It's got to be something, right? All right, man, you take it easy. Rock a roll. All right, let's check out Scott in the 516. Hey, Jake. My name is Scott. I listen to every one of your episodes.

I am a quadriplegic that goes through the gym daily, and I always listen to all your episodes. You speak so fast. It took me a while to write down your number. Did you type it into my phone? I'm just saying, I'd like to tell you, one of the greatest type films I've ever seen, I'm sure you've seen it is the Italian jump.

I wrote you a text on. I want to know what you think about it. Again, my name is Scott. I'm calling from Staten Island, New York, 516 area code. You can use my name, and I can't wait to hear the next one you drop. And greatest car trace movie, the Blues Brothers, no doubt about it. Bye, Jake. Scott and the 516, appreciate you, man.

Good job. I'm going to the gym every day. Jealous. I don't have that kind of dedication. Um, okay, Scott, I'm sorry, dude. I haven't seen the Italian job. I have not seen the original, nor have I seen the remake from the early 2000s. Which one are you referring to, though? The original, right? Guys, Scott's referencing a conversation that Zeth and I have over in the Hollywood feed on, he's talking about greatest heist movies. We're recommending, we're recommending songs that are,

that were heist songs. You can check that out if you're subscribed to Hollywoodland. Sorry to let you down here, Scott, but thank you because now you're prompting me to watch this. Who stars in the original? Who is it? Is it my guy there? Michael Kane?

I think it is. Or am I thinking of something else? I should look it up. I'm not going to. I'm going to keep rolling through here. Let's do some text. We had our Diddy episodes in the Rewind Slot a couple weeks ago. This text comes from the 530.

Do I believe Diddy did it? My logical mind says, how could I not? I still haven't seen any evidence that proves he didn't. He didn't. Proves that he didn't do it. She hasn't seen any evidence that proves that he has to do. Okay, she goes on to say. All we see and hear about is the overwhelming damning evidence against him.

So yeah, he did it. His mammoth-sized ego couldn't shut up about it. Ha-ha. What a douche. Keep up the good work, Jake. Love your podcast. Danny C. I tend to agree with you.

Last week we were talking about this David's story that's developing out or the court case is developing out in Los Angeles, D4VD. And the 713 writes in, the David episode bonus. I read the indictment and then looked up cadaver bags on Amazon. 1399. And I was worried I would be on a list. Why can you buy this without a special license? I don't know.

I don't have an answer for you there, 713, but I appreciate it. And I can't wait to tell this story. I can't wait to this court case wraps. 541 writes in, Jake, Tom from the 5401 here. What do I do while listening to your podcast? Farming. Growing vegetables and flower seeds and fresh produce for the people here in the lovely mountains of Southern Oregon.

Love the show. Rock on. Peace. Tom. Tom. That's exciting. You know, I can't think of anything more heavenly than farming or gardening. It just seems to be.

it's like it's like a fantasy of mind to be able to do that every day to be completely disconnected from the the technological modern aspects of life that have their fucking talents in me 24-7 that seems hey i'm going off track here 405 text in hey disgrace land i know i'm late how could you leave randy roads off the list he was a trained classical guitarist who was about to leave ozie to pursue a career dedicated to that style of play yeah You know, and if I'm being honest, I made my list of great Mount Rushmore guitarists. Pretty subjective, and Randy Rhodes gripped me as a young child when that tribute to Randy came out. Incredible.

I get in a lot of trouble because of that album. I don't know if I want to tell it here on this podcast because my kids might someday listen to this when they're still kids. And I don't want them to hear this story. So, you know, I don't know. 617-90666-36-38. hit me up on text. Maybe I'll tell you over text. You can also leave me a voicemail. We might play it here on the after party.

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We appreciate it. guys get over to disgracelandpod.com sign up for our patronage on get in and vote you don't need even have to be a paid member to get in here and access all this hot nostalgic sitcom action all right now i mentioned earlier the conversation that zeth and i were having about musical heise over in the hollywood land feed this week we got into perhaps an even more interesting musical conversation over in the rap party in hollywood land this week when we were talking about great car music. And that's because we get Steve McQueen happening in Hollywoodland this week. And man, I could have talked about this for, I mean, we're supposed to come with three recommendations, three song recommendations.

I had, I think, seven written down, and I could have gone, I could have kept going. Something about cars and rock and roll. And a lot of you probably don't know this. I wouldn't say I'm a car guy, but I love cars. and I love car culture. I'm not part of a car club or anything like that, but I was kind of part of an unofficial one in high school with my buddies. So this stuff is in my DNA. And any excuse I get to talk about Jeff Tweedy and Wilco's passenger side is a good one. Matt, give the people a little taste of what they might be missing

if they're not subscribed over in the Hollywood land feed. Paint a picture here. What's Jake Brennan, teenage Jake Brennan driving around in? 1968 Plymouth Baracuda, straight six engine, white red top that I bought for 800 bucks off my friend Dutch, who drove, who bought,

I'm sorry, who sold me the barracuda so that he could buy his 64 Dodge Dart. We had cool fucking cars, and some of it was, some of it was our own taste, and some of it was like our dad's not mine. Well, my dad, but that wasn't why I had my car.

Some of my friends, like my friend Billy, his dad, were in a gas station. So he was gifted a cherry red 67 Camaro when he got his license. Bastard. We had to pay for ours. But we had cool freaking muscle cars. And car culture was part of our world in this small town that we grew up in. Interesting. And this song in particular, when ministry released, Jesus built my hot rod.

It was like our minds exploded because it was everything. It was everything. And I didn't know until today that that was Gibby. Hang singing that song from Butthole Surfers. Did you know that? No, I didn't know that. I didn't know that either, man. I did not know that.

And I thought that was like some old movie sample at the beginning that I just read to you that soon I discovered that this rock thing was true. Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil. And Jesus was an architect prior to his career as a prophet. All of a sudden, I found myself in love with the world. I think you could put that on my headstone, dude. And it would be like, perfect. This sums up everything about me.

All right, that's a Hollywood land feed. Make sure you are subscribed to Hollywood Land on Apple Podcasts or the Iheart Radio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 617-906-66-6638. You want to hit me up on voicemail or text disgracelandpod at gmail.com. If you want to send me an email on any of these topics that we've been discussing, Dan Simpson writes, Hey, I think the death of Dave Brockie of Guar would make for a good episode.

Dan, I don't know anything about this. nothing. I know of Guar, of course. I almost went to see them a couple times with my friends, but I didn't for whatever reason. And yeah, you're absolutely right. That would make for a great episode. Tom G. emails us what appears to be video from inside Alistair Crowley's home. Is that what this is? Only one of your three videos will open, my man, and I'm trying to put some context to this. Hit me back, Tom. trying to piece this together. This one comes from Peter Gugger. I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly.

Peter writes in Hi, Z and J. That's Zeth and Jake. Firstly, thanks Zeth for the heads up on quantum criminals. I didn't know about the book, so it goes without saying that it's now on order. I also checked out John LeMay's online store. Thanks for giving me the Albert King Rabbit Hole to go down, Jake. I knew a little about this somewhat mysterious character

and self-proported half-brother of BB King. especially love the chat between you guys on The Hunter and the appropriations the song has been subject to. Led Zeppelin 1 is the album of theirs that I've listened to the least, so I was unaware of the directly ripped section of that Hunter song in how many more times. If I was, I would have recognized it immediately as Pacific Gas and Electric's version of The Hunter. It was a minor hit here in Australia back in 1969. I don't even know about Pacific Gas and Electric. All right, anyways, Peter goes on. I can actually remember listening to it on my friend's mother's car radio.

I was only 10th time, so I didn't know about Albert King's original and certainly wouldn't have known what a love gun was. And then he includes an article here on Pacific Gas and Electric. Peter, thanks so much. Disgracelesslandpod at gmail.com. I don't know anything about this version of The Hunter. I don't, like I said, know anything about Pacific Gas and Electric, but I'm excited to dig into this.

It looks like they were an inspiration on both Jimmy Hendricks and Jimmy Page, all from Peter's email. Thank you, Peter. Disgracelandpod at gmail.com. You guys want to email me about anything. Get at me. Disgraceampot at gmail.com. 617-9066638. Voicemail and text disgrace land pod at Gmail at disgrace land pod on the socials.

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All right, let's recap, shall we? We talked a lot about a bunch of punk bands in this episode. The Clash, Sex Spistles. We have two episodes on the Sex Pistols in our archive, another on The Clash, and we've got a great John Lennon episode from the time that he made sometime in New York City. Matt will have the episode information in the show notes of this page so that you guys can navigate through our archive to find those stories should you be inclined. All right. All right. Listen, number one, this week, our new episode on Christina Grimmie.

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