DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode - Rock 'n' Roll Movies, Music Headlines, and Buford Pusser

Episode Date: September 18, 2025

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Hey, Discos, need a little more disgrace land in your life? Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the after party. Welcome to the disgrace land bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the after party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party,

the bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. Our mission to uncover the truth to confront the myth to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode, we're talking about this week's full episode subject, Jimmy Buffett. We are rewinding back to our Scott Weil an episode dipping back into the 36 chambers, and we get into your voicemails, text, DMs, and as always, a whole lot of rosy.

This is the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know that the best history is the history that gets buried. Disgraceland is where I tell the stories they didn't want told, the kind you'll end up telling someone else. All right, this goes, let's get into it. All right, I am stoked to be talking to you guys here in Jimmy Buffett Week. Part of what drew me in so deeply to Jimmy's story was when I was research. searching, I came across this great film from 1973 called Tarpon. Okay? It's a movie about

Key West Tarpen Fisherman, many of whom are Jimmy Buffett's friends. Jimmy actually scored the film. And now this is long before Jimmy Buffett had anything resembling a hit. It's just a bunch of dudes in Key West, Florida in the early 70s fishing for this very specific type of fish in a very specific type of way. The characters range from the young, wild literary crowd that Jimmy Buffett was running with, Tom McGuane, Jim Harrison, Richard Brodigan, to old school Florida men of the sea. All of them are badass in their own way. I know just at face value, you're thinking tarpen fishermen, but I'm telling you, badass. In this movie, it looks and it sounds incredible. And somehow, Now, this little documentary made by Orson Wells' cinematographer, by the way,

guy by the name of Christian Odaso and his brother-in-law, Guy de la Valdenne, if I'm saying that correctly, this little documentary about fishermen is super rock and roll. It's unlikely, I know, that a movie named after a fish, that a movie about fishermen with music by Jimmy Buffett is rock and roll. But I'm telling you, it is. You just got to see it. T-A-R-R-R-R-R. I found it on Apple. I think you can probably find it on YouTube. Check that out. I'm not just telling you this to tell you about a cool movie. I'm telling you this because this whole thing got me thinking

about rock and roll movies in general, meaning what movies are rock and roll, not what are the best music documentaries, not what are the best music biopics? What are the best rock and roll movies? I did a little research and consequence ran an article back in 2018 that they've since updated a couple of times. They say the following about the subject of rock and roll movies. They say, I'd argue that it's easier to identify a rock and roll movie than define one. Looking through this list, there are docs and biopics, concert films and musicals, movies with flick-making and generation-defining soundtracks, and films that don't seem to have very much to do with music. at all. And yet they all feel like they should be categorized under the old devil horns in some way.

They boast a common ethos, carry a certain swagger, and feel rebellious in their own often unlikely ways. Tarpin has swagger, okay, and then some. I can relate to consequence here. I know what they mean when they say you know a rock and roll movie when you see it. I don't think they said that directly, but that's essentially what they said. It's true. You know, I don't want to burn my suggestions here, or nor do I want to burn their list. They have a great list of 50 rock and roll movies. I'm going to give you the top 10 because it's interesting. Number 10, Wayne's World.

Now, great movie. Just showed this movie to my kids last weekend to an 11-year-old and a 7-year-old. And if you have kids that age and you're into music and you're worried about what your kids can consume and handle don't worry about Wayne's world. The sex stuff is going to fly right over their heads. Number nine, dazed and confused. Now, this one for me really hits the definition of a rock and roll movie. It's not necessarily rock and roll or about rock and roll, but it has rock and roll spirit at its core. It's not, of course, it's not a documentary. It's not about a band. Just dazed and confused. It's about as rock and roll as it gets. Blues Brothers also nails my definition of what a rock and roll movie is.

fantastic, even though I guess you could call Blues Brothers a musical. It's got rebellion at its core. These guys are about as antisocial as it gets. Fantastic. So I love Blues Brothers here at eight. Number seven, high fidelity, also one of these movies. Just, I think a high fidelity guys, kind of off topic. And it's one of those pieces of media that I'm grateful I was alive and at the age I was when it came out, both the book and the film. Just incredible storytelling, fantastic, and yes, a great rock and roll movie. Number six, they've got a concert film here. Number six, stop making sense by talking heads.

Now, I don't know if I would have this on my list of top ten, if I had a list of top ten. I don't even know, is it my favorite concert film? I don't know. No, it's not. Is it top ten? Probably. I don't, man, I don't know. I'm just going to leave this one here. Number five, okay, the graduate. I get it. I totally get it.

Consequence points out that this 1967 film is one of the earliest examples of a movie using pop songs as its musical score, which is true. However, later on, Zeth and I are going to give you our recommendations for the greatest rock and roll movies. And I'm going to give you another movie from back in the day that actually did, what Consequences saying the graduate did so well that actually did it better right around the same time. Little later, but right around the same time. At least they did it in more of a rock and roll way with this film that I'm going to recommend. And again, that'll be in the exclusive section of this episode for disgrace and all access members, Seth and my recommendations on great rock and roll movies. Number four, from consequence, Rocky Horror Picture Show. Now, I've never seen it. Not my thing,

not a theater kid, no shade to anyone who has seen it or is into this. I have fond memories of being a teenager and marveling at the Rocky Horror Kids lined up outside the Harvard Square movie theater. Brattle Street Theater. Is that the one? Is that what it was called? On Saturday nights? Saturdays or Fridays?

I think it was Saturdays. Waiting to see this movie. They showed it at midnight every weekend. Pretty awesome. I get it. This movie was a phenomenon. I totally get it. Number three, almost famous.

This one I wouldn't have on my list. Definitely wouldn't have top ten. It's a little too on the nose, okay? It's just, I mean, I get why it's here, but if I was going to include a Cameron Crow movie that was rock and roll, indicative of a rock and roll film, I would include not almost famous. I would include Fast Times at Ridgemont.

Hi, now I know Cameron Crow didn't make that movie, but it's based on, he wrote the screenplay or it's either he wrote the screenplay or it's based on an article he wrote for Playboy. I can't remember. but either way, the soul of that movie is Cameron Crow. Number two, this is Spinal Tap. Totally get it. Could make a case for number one for this movie,

even though it's a mockumentary. It's just, it stands alone in its glory. It's so good. I have not seen the new Spinal Tap yet. I'm waiting to show my 11-year-old and possibly my 7-year-old, the original before I see the sequel. and I really hope the sequel doesn't suck.

Let me know if you guys have seen. I know some of you have, but I want to hear from others who have. Number one, and this is where consequence goes off the rails with this list. Number one, purple rain. Come on. I don't know, man.

This is tough. This is really tough because Purple Rain is not a good movie. Never mind a good rock and roll movie. I love Purple Rain the album. I love Prince, And I love, I guess, if I'm scrolling the channels and Purple Rain comes on, I'll stop for a couple minutes and watch it because it's fun to laugh at. But not a good film. Anyways, Consequence missed a few others. One in particular that is so perfect, so undeniably rock and roll that I couldn't believe it wasn't on this list, at least not in the top 10. It's got everything. It's got blood. It's got myth. It's got rebellion. It's pure rock, pure rock and roll, I should say. Pure rock and roll. And Zeth and I are going to break down in the experience. exclusive section of this episode coming up, what that movie is, why it's so great, along with some more of our rock and roll film recommendations.

But first, back to Jimmy Buffett. If you listened to the Jimmy Buffett episode that we just dropped in your feed, you will have heard a bit about Jimmy and his publicist being violently attacked by a man I called God's Own badass, Beauford Pusser, who is one of 20th century America's most legendary characters. Now, I won't repeat myself, but Buford Pusser inspired numerous movies and television shows, most notably the film Walking Tall. Buford was a violent, vengeful-fueled man in real life whose goal was to avenge the murder of his wife. Well, we recently learned, like a couple days ago, As we're putting this episode together, actually as the episode was already put together and shipped, we learned new evidence. We learned that new evidence, this is how they're terming it,

we learned that new evidence suggests that old Buford here was actually the one who killed his wife, which is fucking wild when you think about it. This dude built a myth around himself. He built himself into legendary status as the guy who avenged his wife's death and got to their killers. And it turns out he was the killer. Okay? I'm still wrapping my head around this. Unbelievable. Unbelievable.

There's a special section of hell for people like this. it's like how fucked up do you have to be to carry on this lifelong charade and cash in on it over and over and over again up until recently unbelievable anyway my point i guess one of my points here is that this is just one more example of just how many fascinating stories specifically myth busting stories exist in relation to the artists that we talk about here every week. It's too much, oftentimes too much to fit into our 30-minute episodes. Quite literally, there is excess, excess. And we've got a pretty smart, fun way of dealing with this issue, turning a problem into a solution here that's going to help us bring you guys something new and exciting a couple more times per month. And we'll have more on this soon. I'm excited for you to hear

about it. That's coming up the next couple weeks. We'll be announcing that. What I have for you guys now, though, I got some exciting news right now. Matt, give me a little drum roll. Go for it. All right. I'm announcing right here, right now, ladies and gentlemen, we have new merchandise. Yes, brand spaking new t-shirts, hats, and hoodies. The t-shirts, the classic just-say-no logo on the front. And on the back, this Nirvana-inspired design, Nirvana T-shirt-inspired design, corporate algorithmic studio storytelling machine with the circle and slash. through it on the back with disgrace land on the sleeve. You can literally wear your rebellion on your sleeves, ladies and gentlemen, with these just say no to chasm long and short sleeve t-shirts.

We've also got a trucker hat. Perfect. It's all black. The zombie Elvis disgrace land logo on the front. So ready for your noggin, ready for your dashboard, ready for your next mugshot. In the hoodies, got a bunch of hoodies and a bunch of different colors, all right? But here's the thing. This merch run is super limited. You got to get your size and selection. in ASAP before we run out on September 30th, go to shop disgraceland.com or just head to our website to grab your disgrace land merch while it lasts. And thank you in advance for doing so.

All proceeds go to supporting the preservation of real music history storytelling. I'll be back in a flash and we'll hear from you guys with your voicemails and texts. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prize, And Rule 2, never mess with her friends either.

We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends... Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands.

I said, oh, hell no. I vowed I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Your husband is not who you think he is. Your body is not what you thought it was.

Your identity is formed by a secret history. I'm Danny Shapiro. And these are just a few of the stunning stories I'll be exploring on the 14th season of family secrets. And just then, we felt the place. plain turn in the air, so much so that the bags that were under people's seats just kind of flew into the aisle. Each week, we dive headfirst into the complex power of secrecy, how it shapes our identities and relationships, and how it ultimately can reveal to us our truest selves. My daughter, she's pretending she doesn't know, but is trying to cook and feed me and keep me alive because I wasn't eating anything,

and me pretending like everything was fine. He kind of showed me out of the way and said, move. And he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off. And that was the last time I saw him. Listen to season 14 of Family Secrets, starting May 7th on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When like young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever, my first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do. I'd rather be disappointed in.

Do that. Dennis Leary. I wake up and I'm hitting him in the head with a water bomb. And Bruce Jenner is on the aisle in a karate stance. Like he's about to attack me. Like making karate noises. And his entire the Kardashians family over there, everybody's going, and the air marshal is trying to grab my arms and screaming.

I immediately know that I've been asleep walking. David O'Yellow-O. I love this podcast. whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Guy Branham. So anyway, Nicole Kimman broke up with Keith Durbin. Being half of a country couple was always a hat she was going to wear, not like a life she was going to lead. Oh, interesting.

I like that. Did you practice that on your way over? Gayton Matarazzo from Stranger Things. Santa Monsu. Camilla Morone at Carrie Kenny Silver. and more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right guys, we're back. I want to do something a little different here right now. Let's take a little cruise through the music headlines of the day. Right now, if I go to billboard.com,

the headline is Bad Bunny, Edgar Barrera and Casrell and Paco lead 2025 Latin Grammy nominations full list. I don't care about that one bit, no shade to Latin music. It's just I'm not a big bad bunny or whatever fan. Other headline, Cardi B reveals she's expecting fourth child. That doesn't interest me all that much. Over on pitchfork, pitchfork.com, the headline says, why do I keep getting mad at Coachella lineups? What's wrong with me? Okay, I can kind of get with that. I understand that. And then there's something here about Nico Case getting better with age, and I can get with that too. But Ease Jarvis winning the Polaris Music Prize in 2025. I'm sad to say, I don't know who Ease Jarvis is.

I probably should. There are some reviews of artists by the names of Mark Williams-Lewis, Bronto, and another thing called, Who's this guy, Mr. Ed Shearing? Heard of him, not interested. Rollingstone.com for Cardi B. Her Life is the album Rollout. again, not that interesting. I'm not that interested in Cardi B.

Justin Bieber scores seven-figure Coachella payday. He's fully in the driver's seat. Good for Mr. Bieber. I'm happy he's getting paid. Looks like he could put a couple shekels in the bank. But overall, you know, this stuff, it just does not, you know, I look. I look every day. I don't actually go to the websites, but I do have Twitter notifications,

X notifications, excuse me, that are almost entirely music-based. And little that is coming out of modern day music is captivating me or holding my attention. And I sense that you guys are like me and you feel that today's music culture does not reflect the things that you care about. And I'm just grateful. I'm grateful knowing that I am not alone. And I want you guys to know that you're not alone either. Obviously, this is why disgrace land exists in part. It's because music history is far more interesting.

and interesting than modern music. Music history is dangerous. Modern music is safe. Music history is exciting. Modern music boars the hell out of me for the most part. And the music industry and chasm and all the rest, they want to sanitize music history. They want to keep it boring. This isn't an old guy thing either. If you think it is, you know, whatever, that's your prerogative. I just want, I'm just here to say things are not as interesting as they were, then. I was there. So were most of you. We saw it happen. And we knew then that what we were consuming, yeah, it was Kurt, Courtney, name it. Tupac, whoever it was, right? We knew then that, yeah, things were good. Things were great. But 20 years prior to that, things were also great.

30 years prior to that, things were also fucking unbelievably cool. I've always felt this way. This is not new. This is not an old guy thing. Even back when I was 15 years old and reading Rolling Stone, I felt that way. Even back when I was 15 years old and I was reading about the Rolling Stones,

I felt this way. Okay? Music history has always compelled me and it still does, and I know it does so for countless disgrace land listeners as well, who are in the chat

over with me and Patreon every week obsessing over these stories and more on a daily basis, pretty much. Which artist should we cover next in disgrace land? Which rock and roll?

locations have we yet to visit in person but desperately want to what are our weekend music listening plans uh what musical events shaped us as kids and most important when exactly is the new season of slow horse is coming okay that's not the most important but you get my point these are the things that we're talking about over in the patreon chat and you should join us over there because you will find a like-minded community of people who know what's up when it comes to music in music history if you want access to that. If you want access to Zeth and I are the regular, if you want no ads in your Disgraceland episodes, go to disgracelandpod.com slash membership. Become a member of our little club for just five bucks a month before prices go up in a couple

weeks. All right, this week, as you know, we've got a new episode on Jimmy Buffett. In the rewind slot, we're hitting our episode on Scott Weilin from Stone Temple Pilots. Coming up next week, we're dipping back into the Wu-Tang story. Question of the week, though, I'm going to ride this rock and roll movie topic because I find it to be endlessly interesting. Lots of options here. So question of the week, what are your favorite rock and roll movies? I love this topic. I want to keep discussing it with you guys. So get at me, 617-9066638. Let me know what your favorite rock and roll movies are and why you think they're rock and roll. All right? And if you want to hear mine and Zest's answers to this question, our rock and roll cinema recommendations, jump into the

exclusive section of this episode coming up shortly. But for now, I'm in the phone booth. It's the one across the hall. I'm hanging on the telephone with you guys. And last week's question of the week relevant to our Jimmy Buffett episode was, which musician or band did you once despise that you now kind of love? 775 Texan. Hey, Jake, on the topic of artists we used to hate, but now can't get enough of. I can't pinpoint a single artist. However, I used to hate country music, But I find myself more often than not listening to country music these days. It started with Dwight Yocom and it just grew from there. Rockerola.

Listen, guys, get your country recommendations in for the 775. Let's turn them on or her. I can't tell if this is a guy or gal. Let's turn them on to some great country music. Dwight Yocom's awesome, but there's a ton out there, especially the classic honky-ton stuff in the 50s and the 60s. Johnny Paycheck, George Jones, Merle Haggart. That's my stees.

Mo Bandi, check that out. All right, Nathan Texin from the 512. I like your content and look forward to more. Thank you for keeping it real deep and just a bit dark. You got it, Nathan. We're never going to stop. Let's check out this voicemail from the 505. The 505 is calling us, I believe, real late at night or real early in the morning.

I can't tell. And the 505 takes a minute to get into his story. So just bear with him. You're going to want to hear the end. It's worth it. Hey, Jake. This is Naila in Santa Fe. And I guess I'm a friend of a friend of a friend of a story.

friend of a mother of a son of a son of a sailor. I guess there's no friend, it's just a cop. But anyway, he told me about this cop. And I think it was Alabama that pulled over this old, old beat-up car, you know, like broken tail light, bald tires, kind of a mess of a car, and this cop pulls this older lady over and asks for the driver's license, and she entered to it. And the last name is Buffett.

And the cop says, excuse me, man, but it wouldn't be any relation to Jimmy Buffett, would you? And she's like, yeah, I'm his mother. He's like, really? You have Jimmy's numbering your phone? And she's like, yeah, of course. But could you give him a call? And she's like, yeah, sure.

She calls up Jimmy Buffett, hands the phone to the cop. And the cop says, Jimmy, we need to make enough money. to really take care of your mother. You need to get her a new car because this thing goes through all the problems with her mom's car. But I thought it was pretty funny.

Anyway, thanks for all you do. We love you. Bye-bye. 617-90666-36-3-8. If you guys want to get at me, voicemail and text with anything, question of the week or otherwise, anything related to disgrace land,

anything related to great music. You can send me a text. You can leave me a voicemail. you can also email me, disgracelam pod at gmail.com. Tammy R. Odell writes, Hey, Jake and Zeth, I'm a long time listener and first time contributor. I love podcasts and I appreciate all the research you and your team and your dad puts into these shows.

I too am a true Generation X vinyl playing, cassette-loving, recording from radio, give me any kind of music except Bluegrass, kind of gal. Additionally, I'm a Tennessee native. I'm still here. So, of course, I zeroed in. when you mentioned another past Tennessee resident, Beaufort Pusser in the latest episode

featuring Jimmy Buffett. Love his music also. While Pusser lived in West Tennessee, I hail from Middle Tennessee, the 9-3-1, as close to East Tennessee as you can get. I'm about a four and a half right away from McNary County. However, I had relatives that lived very close to Adamsville,

so we heard these stories quite often. I grew up hearing all the Beaufort Pusser adventures, watching the movies, and like many Tennessee citizens, felt as if he was a small town hero for cleaning up McNary County, as he did. Imagine my surprise when a scant few weeks ago, I spot a news story online regarding a Tennessee Bureau of Investigations press conference that had just taken place. In the subject, the results of the investigation into the death of Pauline Pusser,

Puser, can't, I know how to fucking pronounce this, Buford's wife who had been killed in an ambush in 1967. Who was responsible? asked I. Well, per the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation, it was Beaufort Pusser himself. I dove headfirst in a reading all about this. Yes, per the TBI, the ambush didn't happen or definitely did not happen the way Beaufort described it. And after going back through case files and exuming Beaufort's wife's body for another

examination, the investigators determined there was enough evidence that there was no question. Beaufort Pusser killed his wife that day. The reactions I have read online have been all over the place. It's crazy time, folks. I'm including a link to the press conference. I know this story wouldn't fit on disgrace land, but in a slight way, it might fit on Hollywood land. The day he died, per rumor,

he had agreed to play himself in the second walking tall movie. It is a truly fascinating tale. Thanks, guys, for the many hours of listening. You have provided me. Tammy, thank you for the great email. And thank you for summarizing this incredible story that's really developed over the last couple weeks relevant to our Jimmy Buffett episode here.

Just, I'm flabbergasted. I, you know, this is like this is, we need a new movie now. We need another Beaufort Pusor movie, pus, or whatever the fuck the guy's name is pronounced as. We need another one of these movies that tells the real story. Shit, Tammy, maybe you can write it.

All right, 617-906-6638. You guys want to hook me up, voicemail and text. I'll be back after this. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either.

We always say that, trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends... Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a... truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. They said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcast. Your husband is not who you think he is. Your body is not what you thought it was. Your identity is formed by a secret history. I'm Danny Shapiro, and these are just a few of the stunning stories I'll be exploring the 14th season of family secrets. And just then, we felt the plain turn in the air, so much so that the bags that were under people's seats just kind of flew into the aisle. Each week, we dive headfirst into the complex power of secrecy, how it shapes our identities and relationships, and how it ultimately can reveal to us our truest selves. My daughter, she's pretending she doesn't know, but is trying to cook and feed me and keep me alive because I wasn't eating anything. And me pretending like everything was fine. He kind of showed me out of the way and said, move.

And he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off. And that was the last time I saw him. Listen to season 14 of Family Secrets, starting May 7th on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some. fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When like young people come up to me and they want to be an act or whatever. My first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? Rather be disappointed in.

Do that. Dennis Leary. I wake up and I'm hitting him in the head with a water bomb. And Bruce Jenner is on the aisle in a karate stance like he's about to attack me. Like making karate noises. And his entire the Kardashian family over there, Everybody's going, and the air marshal is trying to grab my arms and screaming. I immediately know that I've been a sleepwalk.

David O'Yellowo. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Guy Branham. So anyway, Nicole Kidman broke up with Keith Thurban. Being half of a country couple was always a hat she was going to wear, not like a life she was going to lead. Oh, interesting. I like that. Did you practice that on your way over?

Gaten Matarazzo from Stranger Things. Tena Mongeau, Camilla Marone, Carrie Kenny Silver, and more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hollywood lost a legend this week with the passing of Robert Redford.

Zeth Lundy has a great tribute to Sundance Kid over in the Hollywood Rap Party episode this week. Check that out. if you haven't already. Here's a little taste. My personal history with Robert Edford in his movies is that they represented for me an introduction

to more sophisticated cinema, that big step from the kinds of things I watched as a kid, which primarily was like the Muppet Show nonstop, into a more adult world. And in particular, the Sting, the George Roy Hill movie from 1973, co-starring Paul Newman, that played a huge role in my life when it came to that sort of leveling up as to the sorts of

things as I was watching. This was another one of my grandmother's favorite movies. I've talked about this before, and you know, I don't think I'd give her enough credit when it comes to cementing my love of cinema from a really early age. I'm realizing through recording these rat party episodes that a lot of these major milestones in my personal movie viewing history were nights when I watched movies with my grandmother. But anyways, that's a whole other thing I need to explore. All right, if you want to hear Zeth and I talking about some movie wrecks that are rock and roll movie wrecks. That's coming right up in the exclusive section of this after party. If you're not yet an All Access member and can't access that conversation, do not sweat it.

We'll just chill here and wait for you to head over to disgracelandpod.com slash all access and sign up for just five bucks a month before those prices go up in a couple of weeks. As you'll hear in this short clip coming up, Zeth and I come at these topics from different angles. but the cumulative list that we've put together here about undeniable great rock and roll movies surprised even me. One movie in particular, I think, changed the way that we all watch movies. And here's a short clip into the conversation between Zeth and I

that you may be missing out on by not being an All Access member. My second recommendation for rock and roll movie, Mean Streets, also from 1973. I almost included this. Yeah, I thought you were. And I also thought, you know, and he'll be smart enough to know I'm going to include this. So he won't do it.

I think I subconsciously, I thought that, yeah. Okay, here's why. A lot of people correctly attribute the graduate as the film that changed the game from music in movies, in cinema. The graduates, 1969, 68, something like that. So it's before Mean Streets. And what the graduate did was it used pop music as score. It used pop music in a way that hadn't been used. really in film before that. It used pop music to run the emotion through the writing and the acting

to the listener in the same way that scoring does. And it's hard, another one of those things it's hard to think about now to think of a time before that in movies where songs weren't used to make you feel something, where it was just score, unless you're talking about musicals, but those are almost a different medium. So the graduate did it first. But it's like saying, you know, Ike Turner did rock and roll first before Elvis. Mean Streets is more like the Elvis version of what the graduate was doing. Elvis is a bad analogy because Mean Streets is so grittier and more rock and roll. I know what you mean now.

It's more explosive. That's my point. Yeah. You know what I mean? And just like, I don't care, man. You see De Niro walking into that bar and jumping Jack Flash. And it's, it's revel. It's like, I've never seen anything like that in my life.

It still gives me chills. It gives me chills even just thinking about it. All right. guys, while those of you sign up for disgrace and all access and or eagerly away our imminent conversation on rock and roll movies, I'm going to hit this bottle of five-hour energy here and gear up for hopefully two weeks in a row of successfully delivering my 60-second sports rant and under 30 seconds. The 60-second sports rant and under 30 seconds is sponsored by 5-hour energy. Five-hour energy shots bring tasty caffeine and 17 flavors. Head to your local

retailer, www.5hourenergy.com or Amazon to order yours today. Matt, give me the ticker. Guys, what is college football? I want to become a fan, but I grew up in New England, where college football means something totally different than it does down here in the south or out west. The Red Sox are doomed for an early playoff exit. I fear the Patriots are barely even a professional football team at this point. And yeah, I know they won last weekend,

but they gave up 27 points to the Miami freaking Dolphins and missed two extra points. So I need something else in sports to get excited about. Is it college football? Do I root for the Florida Gators, the fighting Irish? What even is a college football division? Why are their college football team rankings? Who ranks the teams?

Doesn't this seem a bit arbitrary? Why isn't a win-loss record good enough? There are bowl games and playoffs and a championship, and I have no idea what is happening on Saturday. Somebody get Pat McAfee to call me and explain this whole thing because I can't take only having this Patriots team to root for for the rest of fall and early winter. Matt, how did I do?

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Welcome back. Welcome back. I'm about to take off, guys, real quick. If you listen to this episode, which you did, because you're here about 20, 30 minutes into it, we talked about the Rolling Stones. We talked about talking heads. We talked about prints. We have episodes on all of those artists in our archive of the,

of now 250 episodes. That's right. We hit 250 full episodes of disgrace land this week with our Jimmy Buffett story. Get in there, guys. There's a lot for you to listen to. And if you have questions, hit me up and let me know if you want some help navigating around

to find your favorite artists, an artist you might have from a different genre of music. I was talking to this guy yesterday. I was filming this thing and it's a promo thing. And I was talking to the director who was shooting it. And he was going on and on about how much he loved disgraceland. And he was telling me about specific episodes he's listened to the writings, like specific pieces of writing that we've done.

He clearly had listened a lot to a lot of stuff. And he was like, man, you know, you know, like just, why don't you do a Grateful Dead episode? Or he said something like that. I'm like, my man, we have two. So my point is you may think you're well versed in what's in the disgrace and archive, but we have so much. So if you have a question about an artist, hit me up. 617-906-66-6638 voicemail and text at Disgraceland Pod on the socials.

Easier to get in touch with me over in the Patreon chat or text or voicemail. But I'm around and easy to get at and I can point you in the right direction. All right, let's recap, shall we? Number one, this week's full episode on Jimmy Buffett is available for you to right now. Number two, we are rewinding with Scott Weiland from the Stone Temple Pilots in the rewind slot coming up right after this episode. Next week, we dip back into the Wu-Tang 36 Chambers. Number four on Hollywood land right now, Johnny Depp, 5-6-606-66-3638. Your voice keeps us digging into the dark corners of music history, so keep calling, keep texting,

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Here's what America was listening to on that day, according to the Billboard charts. Number one. Torn between two lovers, Mary McGregor. Last week, one. Peak position, one. Weeks on chart, 13. Number two, new kid in town. Eagles. Last week, four, peak position, two, weeks on chart, nine. Number three, blinded by the light.

Manford, man's earth band. Last week, six, peak position, one, three, weeks on church, 13. Number four, car wash, rose rose. Last week, two, peak position, one, weeks on chart, 17. Number five, Evergreen. Love for them. Start. When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist, they take matters into their own hands. I vowed. I will be his last target. He is not going to get away with this.

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