DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode - Scary Movies and an Interview with Low Cut Connie's Adam Weiner

Episode Date: October 24, 2024

This week in the After Party, Jake sits down with Adam Weiner of Low Cut Connie to discuss the state of rock n' roll and Adam's new film "Art Dealers." Plus, we hear from you about the movies that scared you when you were a kid. As we prepare for next week's episode on the ultimate scary movie, "The Exorcist" and the book that inspired it, we we want to know: What is the scariest book you've ever read? Let Jake know at 617-906-6638, [e-mail], or on socials @disgracelandpod.For more great Disgraceland episodes, dive into our extensive archive, including such episodes as:Episode 58 - Studio 54Episode 99 - Billie HolidayEpisode 101 & 102 - Miles DavisTo hear an extended version of the After Party and to hear more from the DISGRACELAND community, become a Disgraceland All Access member at disgracelandpod.com/membership.Visit www.disgracelandpod.com/merch to see the latest Disgraceland merch! Check out the new limited edition Halloween merch!Sign up for our newsletter and get the inside dirt on events, merch and other awesomeness - GET THE NEWSLETTERFollow Jake and DISGRACELAND:InstagramYouTubeX (formerly Twitter) Facebook Fan Group To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Movies can make you feel, make you dream. Sometimes they even make you appreciate architecture. Is there anybody who's been hotter in a doorway than Elizabeth Taylor? That's the kind of analysis you'll find every week on Dear Movies I Love You, the new podcast from the Exactly Right Network. Every Tuesday, we break down the films we're crushing on, from blockbusters to deep cuts. Listen to Dear Movies I Love You on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, Discos, need a little more disgrace land in your life? Just a touch to get you through?

Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the After Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the after party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of disgrace land to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. On this bonus episode, we are talking about this week's subject of the disgrace land full episode, the poltergeist curse,

the movies that scared you as a kid. Again, even more shocking Sean Combs' allegations of what I plan to do with all this ditty information. I also have a special interview with Adam Weiner from one of the greatest rock and roll bands on the planet at the moment, low-cut Connie, talking about his new movie art dealers. And of course, we're diving into your voicemails, tax and more. And as always, a whole lot of rosy, all right, discos. Let's get into it. There was a study that came out in 2021 from behavioral scientists, Colton Scrivener,

who found that horror film fans fared better psychologically than non-horror film fans during the COVID-19 lockdown. The reason wasn't because they had better and scarier entertainment options at home during the pandemic, but rather because horror movies force us to play with fear. They force us to play with other negative emotions as well, dread, anxiety, disgust. And the theory goes that when we play with our fears, we learn to better manage our fears. So those of us who could better manage our fears because of horror did better in 2020 managing our fears. Managing our emotions during lockdown. I looked into a couple of these studies when prepping for this episode, and I'm shocked at how many there are. These super serious academic looks at the psychology behind

horror film watchers. I didn't know this existed. It's a whole piece of academia. Most of these studies, though, they don't have a lot of value. I found the COVID-19 thing to be a little bit interesting, but I don't need a study to tell me why we're afraid when we watch these films. And you don't either. I'm more interested in knowing why we're drawn to these films as opposed to why we are afraid. Fear isn't a positive emotion, obviously. Most of us consciously avoid negative emotions. And to that question, why we want to watch things that are going to scare the hell out of us, there isn't a lot of information. Psychologically, we want the thrill. I get it. We want to feel like we are in the situation without

truly being in the situation, without the negative consequences. We want that endorphin rush. I think that's simple and easy to understand. But it strikes me that there's probably something else there that keeps drawing. It's like the phenomenon of women who love sort of the slasher true crime stuff. There's been a lot of think pieces written on that with the expansion of podcasting. But as it pertains to horror movies, that's what we're talking about here. I don't watch a lot of horror movies, mainly because my wife doesn't watch a lot of horror. she listens to a lot of true crime. She's not a horror movie fan. I showed her Halloween last year.

I couldn't believe I got her to watch it with me. And no joke, she was pissed off at me for like a week afterward. The experience was legitimately anxiety-inducing for her, which is strange to me because I don't even think Halloween is that scary of a movie. Maybe it was when it was released back in 1978. I don't know. I wasn't watching it back in 1978. I was too young. But I don't find it to be that scary anymore. It's got the iconic Mike Myers. Of course, he's at face value horrifying. But the film, again, not that scary. Maybe it isn't that scary to me because despite what little horror I watch, the more modern horror that I have watched is more emotionally manipulative and thus more scary to me. I think the scariest movie that I've seen in my entire life is that

movie that doesn't get a lot of a lot of heat that movie the strangers from 2008 i think the reason uh is is because it feels so real the movie shot like super bare bones so it looks it looks good uh it's it's not like a big budget film with a lot of big sets not a lot of grandness in the filmmaking and i think that makes it more relatable um it's hard to think of other movies off the top of my head that have scared me as an adult the conjuring but that was different that was because, you know, I saw The Conjuring when it came out in the movie theaters, in the movie theater, excuse me, in Santa Monica. And then some years later, five, six, seven years later, whatever it was, I was flipping through the channels at night and The Conjuring came on. I was in my bedroom,

just north of Boston. And I realized that the hospital scenes from The Conjuring were filmed right down the road from where I lived. And it's something I didn't pick up on the first time when I saw the theater. Maybe I didn't. It wasn't. That's scary to me then in the theater because the context was so different. I was in Santa Monica. But there, in my bedroom, you know, two miles from where the horror movie was set, or part of it anyways. And I know the house is set in like Connecticut or something, but again, I'm talking about the hospital scenes. That scared the hell out of me. I had to literally get up, walk downstairs, walk around the house, check the locks, did the whole, all, that whole thing. Again, I think it was the context that made it scary for me, made the film scary for me.

Books, on the other hand, they're a lot scarier to me than horror movies are. Salem's Lot reading that as a kid. When I think of it now, I can still actually feel what that fear was that I felt back then. And of course, The Exorcist, we're talking about The Exorcist. We have an Exorcist episode coming out next week. We're doing a book club next week on the 29th, Tuesday, the 20th. about the exorcist. So if you want to get in on that, you still got time to read the book. You get a week almost. But reading it as an adult, I didn't read The Exorcist as a kid,

but reading it as an adult after seeing the movie as a kid, reading the book, it's a different type of fear. Okay? The fear, the horror isn't about the green puke and the profanity spewing from Reagan's mouth. It's that the horror of it, of the book, the story, is rapid up in my very real faith and contextualized in spirituality and it scares the hell out of me. Again, context. I think the context is what makes this stuff scary to us. The scariest movies to me are the ones of the most realistic, like I talked about, the strangers. Now, the exorcist, I believe in possession. I believe in good and evil. I believe that evil travels in unexpected ways. I believe in God. I believe in the devil. And I believe, like the Catholic Church,

believes that in extremely rare occasions, exorcism is necessary to cast out the spirit of evil. So with all that at my core and the beautiful writing, that is the book, The Exorcist, and the filmmaking, that, I mean, the film's incredible. With all that, it's easy to see how that book and that film scare the hell out of me. The book mainly, though. Now, I'm talking all about this because, you know, we released this episode on the Poultergeist, the Curse of the Poultergeist film series, I should say, to get it right. And the question of the week was, you know, I was talking about how that movie scared the hell out of me as a kid. It really, really did. And we're going to get into that more later in the episode. And I asked you guys,

what movies scared you? And I got a lot of great feedback. So many great horror movies from the 80s, the 90s, the 70s as well. You know, if we're all relatively the same age, give or take a decade or so here in disgrace land, I think we're lucky. with the horror movies we came up with. Pretty incredible stuff. And I got a lot of great incoming voicemails, text, emails, DMs, et cetera, from you guys on the answer to the question of the week, which movies scared the hell out of you as kids. I want to read to you, though, just to, again, because we're talking about context here,

a different type of context. I want to read to you guys. I went to Rotten Tomatoes, and I wanted to find some lists of the scariest films of these previous decade. So going to the 80s, the 10 scariest films in reverse order according to Rotten Tomatoes, which I went to on purpose because it's kind of like a voted on type of thing as opposed to just completely editorialized. But anyways, here we go. Number 10, Evil Dead 2. Now I'm going to give you my comments on these as I kind of breeze through them here. And if you guys have any comments, hit me up. You know how to do it. 617-906-66-36-3-38.

At this great sign pot. So anyways, number 10, Evil Dead 2. Okay. I've seen Evil Dead. Two. Okay. I've seen Evil that too not that scary number nine stephen king's dead zone i don't remember the film though i have seen it christopher walking uh the book on the other hand just like salem's lot completely frightening number eight henry portrait of a serial killer okay what was this i thought this was a 90s movie but i guess this is 89 maybe very scary movie but i wouldn't categorize it as horror though rotten tomatoes does henry portrait of a serial killer american werewolf of london number seven super scary. Super scary to me as a kid. I saw it in the theaters when it came out. Pretty sure my dad took me. You know, it's got the great special effects. That's kind of what this movie is known for.

I watched this movie almost every year. It still kind of scares me, particularly the stuff out on the Moors, the countryside, the spookiness of the English countryside. And the transformation piece, there's something in storytelling, too. It's a, it's a trope for a reason, like when a character transformed. and when they literally transform in these horror movies, I think it does something else to us, to the fear factor within us. So seven American Werewolf of London, I get it. I think it should perhaps be even higher on the list.

But number six, return of the living dead. I've never seen it. Number five, little shop of horrors. Coincidentally, just watched this the other night with my kids. Not scary. I don't even know why it's on here. This should not be on here. For the fly, I get it.

We're talking more about that transformation thing. This is Cronenberg. This is, I almost said Steve Gutenberg, but it's Jeff Goldblum, correct? Yeah, Jeff Goldblum. And they're talking about the 80s of the fly, not, of course, the original. Three, reanimator, never seen it.

Two, our girl, Sigourney Weaver and aliens, who we covered a couple episodes ago. Again, that's aliens, not alien. And number one, which I get, I don't agree with it, but I get it, Nightmare on Elm Street. I was at the perfect age to not be scared by Nightmare on Elm Street.

Street. It came just like a just too late, like a year too late for me. And I just found the whole thing to be cheesy. But conversely, a couple years before, Friday the 13th, Jason Vorhees, that shit I found would be really scary. Nightmare on Elm Street, is this had a cheese fat. I was a little too old. I was getting to be a little too cool for school. I'd like to go back and watch it though, because honestly, I have not watched this movie, I think, since I was a kid. and the idea of like, you know, the boogeyman under the bed or whatever the hell it is, I don't remember, is fucking frightening. So I get why this one is number one. Poultergeist is not even on the list, guys.

It did come in at 11, 88% rotten tomatoes rating. But, yeah, I mean, come on, little shop of horrors, Poulter guys should be on this list. Okay, let's go to the 90s real quick. Number 10, audition. Never seen it. No idea what it is. If anyone's seen audition, let me know. Number nine, six cents.

Yes, very scary. I've only seen this movie once. My oldest son has been begging me to watch it. He's only 10 years old. I saw this when it came out. I need to see it again. I love M. Knight-Shammelon's movies, most of them that I've seen anyways.

Number eight, Blair Witch. Also, super frightening. Number seven, tremors. I don't remember it, but I think I watched it, and I think I was scared. Number six, dead alive, never seen it. Number five. Kronos, never seen it.

Number four. Misery, not really scary. Not just, it's not. Number three, arachnophobia. 93% rotten tomatoes, arachnophobia. I don't remember that being scary. I remember that being kind of a joke. Number two, silence of the lambs, truly frightening.

And number one, I need to see this movie. I have not seen this movie, and I'm embarrassed. I'm ashamed. Frankly, I'm embarrassed and ashamed. What movie's that from? I can't remember. Number one, the ring, 98%. Have you guys seen The Ring?

I know you have. Some of you have talked to me about it before. Okay, real quick, for the rest of the old heads out there, I'm going to quickly run down the top 10 from the 70s. Number 10, the wicker man. This scared the shit out of me as a kid. I've only watched it once. I'm going back to watch it again.

Perhaps this weekend. Number nine, Carrie, is Carrie really that scary or is it just horrifying? I would say it's horrifying. Number eight, invasion of the body snatchers. Number seven, don't look now. I've seen this one, Donald Sutherland, Julie Christie, but without sound, don't ask me why. I need to watch it again. I think it's on criteria.

Number six, alien, yes, horrifying, very scary. Five, Susperia, made by Anthony Boyd. Aene's girlfriend's dad, di Argento. Not really scary, but worth a watch, a vibe. A horrific vibe. Number four, I guess this is the remake of Nosferatu, which I've never seen. I've seen the original. Number three, young Frankenstein, not scary, it's a comedy.

Number two, Halloween talked about that earlier. Number one, scariest movie from the 1970s. You're all waiting for me to say, The Exorcist. but I'm not going to say it because it ain't number one. Number one, jaws. Jaws. Left field choice there. I get it.

It is scary. I still have a problem going in the water. I have my whole life. I'm so afraid of sharks. I have a shark tattoo. I have a shark app on my phone. And every summer I sit on the beach as my kids are in the water and I monitor it. I'm psycho about my fear of sharks.

And it's because of jobs. However, the exorcist is number 23 on this freaking list. It doesn't make any sense. And there's a bunch between 10 and 23 that I'd never seen before or heard of. And I'm like, what is this? I got to see these things. So anyways, that'll contextualize the conversation we're going to get into it a little bit. When we come back after this break, we're going to talk about the question of the week

and your answers to what the scariest movie of your childhood was. Now listen, before we do that, I got to just, I got to clean something up here. Next week's episode, like I said, is on The Exorcist. And at the end of that episode, I posed a question of the week that is just, it's too similar to last week's question of the week. I don't know what I was thinking. I don't record these things in succession. I record them all out of order. I messed up.

I ask in the E-block, the final message of the Exorcist episode is what's the scariest movie of all time. Now, if anyone wants to answer that, go ahead. I'm not going to go back and punch it. However, I think a better question is when you're listening to The Exorcist episode, be thinking about the fact that this was a book. Obviously, we talk about that in the episode. It was a book before it was a movie. So the question of the week, a more app question of the week is, what is the scariest book you have ever read? And we'll get into that in the After Party bonus episode after the Exorcist is released.

And if you still want to hit me up, you want to tell me about your scariest movie, even beyond your childhood, go for it. We'll talk about that too. 906-66-36-3638 voicemail text to let me know the answer to next week's question of the week at disgracelam pod on the socials disgraceland pod at gmail.com email to hit me up back in a flash. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of The Girlfriends, Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck.

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On the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When, like, young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever. My first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? Rather be disappointed in. Do that. Dennis Leary.

I wake up and I'm hitting him in the head with a water bomb. And Bruce Jenner is on the aisle in a karate stance, like he's about to attack me, like, making karate noises. And his entire, the Kardashian family over there, everybody's going, and the air marshal is trying to grab my arms and screaming. And I immediately know that I've been asleepwalk. David O'Yello-O. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction

or you just go straight for the guts. Guy Branham. So anyway, Nicole Kidman broke up with Keith Thurban. Being half of a country couple was always a hat she was going to wear, not like a life she was going to lead. Oh, interesting. I like that. Did you practice that on your way over? Gaten Matarazzo from Stranger Things.

Tena Monsu. Camilla Marone at Carrie Kenny Silver. And more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Remember when you'd walk into your local video rental place and there were always those two employees behind the counter arguing about movies? Well, that's us. I'm Millie de Cherico. And I'm Casey O'Brien.

And now we're arguing about movies on our podcast, Dear Movies I Love You from the Exactly Right Network. Can I say something about the criterion closet? Go ahead, dude. They're letting too many people in there. Okay, that's another film grape I got two. Sadly, that rental place doesn't exist anymore. It's probably a store that sells running shoes. Or an ice cream shop with an extra pee and an E at the end.

So consider us your slacker movie clerks in podcast form. I would like to establish a timeline of the moment you figured out who Channing Tatum was. Every Tuesday, we dig into the movies we can't stop obsessing over it, from hidden gems to big screen favorites. New episodes drop every week on the exactly right network. Listen to Dear Movies I Love You on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. All right, guys, we are back. A couple of announcements before we get into your voicemails, you taxi DMs. We did these limited edition t-shirts for you that are Halloween-based, inspired by our Black Sabbath and our cramps episodes. Those are available for, let's see,

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Coming up, less than a week, Tuesday the 29th. That is our Disgraced Land Book Club, where we are going to be discussing The Exorcist. And if you're in the Patreon, you know there's a link there, and that's how you get in on this. You can register there. I'm also posting links on the socials. I storied it last night on Instagram.

I'll try to do this every 24 hours, so this information remains up there. So if you want to get in on this, you want to register for the book club, hit up at this Gracelandpot on Instagram. Go to the stories. There should be a link in there for you. Okay, if not just DM me, I'll send you the link.

I hope you can join us for the book club. It's a good vibe. We get to spend some face time together, which I always appreciate, like seeing your faces. Okay, now I want to hear your voices. The question of the week from last week was, what movie scared the hell out of you as a kid because of the poltergeist episode that's what i wanted to know let's go to ish in the seven eight one jake what up your boy ish long time hope all

as well sounds like you're still kicking ass uh about scary things and scary movies first off the video from yes the song owner of a lonely heart that used to scare the living shit out of me as a kid for some reason. Growing up, I was into horror movies, watched tons of horror movies, my parents were cool with it. Poultergeist was one of the creepiest, scariest things I had seen as a kid.

As an adult, I like to watch scary movies by myself with a lights off to see if that shit scares me. It's done the job a couple of times, but for the most part, not really, but like you said, Poultergeist, 3-teen, something about it, very creepy. Carol Ann, Carolan.

I don't know, man. All as well. Keep up the good work. Disco. Ish, my man, it's been a long time since you've called in. I was wondering where you were. I'm happy to hear your voice. I hope you're doing well up there in the Northeast.

Owner of a lonely heart. I can't remember the video. But I know the song. I can see actually the song. That's sort of like those big, massive hits. I can see that scaring the hell out of me as a little kid. although it didn't scare me. Poltergeist did as it did to you were relatively the same age, I believe. And yeah, Carol Ann, just freaky, freaky. All right,ish, I appreciate you. Let's check in with

Steve from the 3183. Steve, way, way, way on the other side of the world. Go ahead, Steve. Jake, this is Steve from the 3183 in Melbourne in Australia. You're after films that scared the life out of people. I'm going to nominate American Werewolf in London. I was 10 years old when it came out. I saw it on a home video at a friend's place, and I did not sleep, Stanley, for weeks after that. It was shown, a film reviewer played the first 30 seconds

and then some still photos of that famous Rick Baker special effects scene where David changes into the werewolf for the first time. that was on a nighttime talk show and I thought I have to see this film but my parents were dead against me seeing it but of course the Munich folks tell you not to do something it's all you want to do right so anyway after it left the cinema

it came out on home video here and I saw it at a makes place after school one afternoon and yeah boy oh boy my folks were right on the money with that call anyway thanks for the podcast I look forward to hearing plenty more stories from disgrace land Steve, we are of like mind, my friend, even though we are oceans apart.

I appreciate you calling in. I think you may have heard already me talk about American Werewolf of London. You obviously had responsible parents. They didn't want you to see it. My dad took me to see it. But yeah, you know, this is one of those things where I know my oldest could maybe handle it. Maybe. I'm being very careful, very careful.

I'm trying to preserve his innocence. And in a balance, in a meaningful way, not in an overly protective way. He's got his whole life to watch these movies, and I'll be watching them with him with both my sons. But it's hard, man. It's hard. I want to watch this stuff with them, especially American Werewolf of London. If anyone hasn't seen American Werewolf of London, do yourselves a favor and go do so immediately after this episode. Anyways, okay, let's check it with Tony from the 206.

Jake, what's happening, brother? You know who it is. Tony from the 206, just got done listening to that poltergeist episode with my wife, and she is now a fan of the podcast. She actually asked me to send her that episode so she can play it again. She loves spooky stuff. To answer your question, I'm not going to give you one movie. I'm going to give you four.

I'm just going to list them off, not any particular order, but these are the movies that scared me to where I can never watch them again. Okay? Here we go. One, video drone. Two. Jacob's Ladder. Three, Tales from the Hood. And four, even though it's technically not a scary movie, but I can't deal with hallucinations,

wreck rim for a dream. Those are the four movies I will not watch at all, okay? All right, love the show. By the to listen to the Robert Johnson episode, and keep doing what you're doing. Much love from the Tulsaac, brother. Peace. Tony, thank you for turning us on to your wife, the podcast. Appreciate that.

Video Drome, never seen it. Jacob's Ladder legitimately horrifying. Jacob's Ladder legitimately horrifying. I cannot believe I forgot to mention that earlier. It's worth mentioning that Jacob's Ladder was a big influence on my writing for the John Denver episode that we have done. So if you want to know what I'm talking about,

go back in the archive and check that out. Tales from the Hood, never seen it. Requiem for a dream, Hubert Selby. I don't remember it being scary. I remember it being miserable, but being really good. Yeah, anyways, Hope you dig the Robert Johnson episode.

I tried to make it super devilish. I hope that comes through. Richard from the 916. Hey, Jake. It's Richard from 916, a relatively new listener. Really dug your poltergeist episode. That was always one of my favorites growing up. I remember seeing it in the theaters.

But the one that really scared me when I was young was the one and only original phantasm from 1979. here locally and SAC, they showed it uncut after the news one night, like maybe six months after it came out, and I stayed up and scared the shit out of myself. Keep up the good work, man. Thanks. Richard, good to have you here, man.

Appreciate the new listeners. The shooting of Fantasim locally, again, here we go with the context, right? Makes it scarier, I bet. Just a little bit. pushes it over the edge for you, or did as a kid anyways, and showing it after the 11 o'clock news or whatever it was, that's amazing. I'm a huge Stephen King fan. Well, I should say I'm a huge fan of Stephen King's books, some of Stephen King's books, not a whole lot of his movies, but some of the movies are great, and he'll tell you the same thing. And just to your

note about Fantasin being shot nearby in your hometown, recently, within the last 10 years in my hometown of Clinton, Massachusetts, they shot Castle Rock. And that was a trip. That was a trip to see. I obviously don't live there anymore. My family does. And it was a trip for them because Stephen King's production crew is rolling around. And they've since shot, I think, more television, more Stephen King-related television in Clinton, Massachusetts and a lot more in Massachusetts.

But to have it in your hometown. And the final scene of that series takes place at the literal exact spot where I got drunk for the first time in my life. I found that to be very, very exciting and thrilling when I was watching it. But Castle Rock, I guess kind of scary for TV, for sure. If you haven't seen it, check that out. All right, let's do some text. This one comes from the 706, and it's kind of guys, it's to me, but it's kind of to you guys as well. 706 says, hey, you know the best thing about your series slash bonus content,

no matter how far I fall behind while dealing with the next bullshit thing from work or the first trip to take my kid to Disney being canceled till next year due to hurricanes or emergency vet visits to find out my 13-year-old cat is a tumor and her sinus cavity, it's having that good, familiar feeling listening to an old friend pick up right where we left off the last time. And the more I think about it, even though I'm a dedicated metalhead, the more I find out my life is a lot more like those old country songs than I ever care to admit. I hope all of you working out there have one thing that makes you get out of your head for a few minutes a day like you do for me. He's talking about the podcast here.

And if not, I got an old beat-up pickup truck in my backyard with a bag full of wrenches and spare parts if you ever need a life distraction. Take care, you guys. I love that. I wish you gave me your name, 706. It's a great, great text. Appreciate it. 802 writes in, The Fucking Cramps. My new favorite episode, The Cramps Devo and the Blasters were my first favorite bands when I was six.

What? When you were six? great taste for a six-year-old. Is that a flex or what? I don't care. It's awesome. Then you go on to say, The Blasters were my first show.

Nice. Good for you. Love the Blasters. American music. Okay. Textor goes on to say, I grew up bicostal between Riverside,

California and Rutland, Vermont. Okay, Riverside, California, that explains the Blasters bit. Texer goes on to say, my dad owned thrift stores in San Bernardino and Riverside in the 80s. He also played bass guitar

and various bands. Okay, I'm starting to believe you here. Huge car and rockabilly scene in the inland. the empire. Lux and poison ivy would occasionally come into my dad's stores and he saw them perform a handful of times. My pops would wake us up blasting the song Garbage Man had us. He would say, wake up and go to school. You're going to end up a garbage man. I will be buried in my yellow bad music for bad people t-shirt. Also, the song Surf and Dead that they did for the return

to the living dead is a great underrated Halloween song. Happy Rocka Rolla Halloween. Keep it spooky. Mr. Jake's side note. Word of advice. Never, never, never play the cramps. for your girlfriend i'm not going to read the rest of that great text aside from the addendum nice work um damn man your dad your dad hooked you up and uh if you guys haven't heard the cramps episode from last week i invite you to go do so uh 802 knows what they're talking about 425 writes and hey jake it's julie from the 425 listen to low cut connie damn i like the music big time thanks for the heads up On another note, not the greatest band of all time, but a big kick-ass American band, The Smithereens. Julie, thanks for the text. You're in for a treat. We've got an interview with Adam from low-cut Connie coming up right after this.

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there was no sean combs news there was actually some quite horrifying sean combs news. And I was talking to Matt who works with Mia here at Double Elvis. And he puts these shows together. Excuse me, I'm moving my chair. You can hear that in the background. I apologize. And it's like, dude, what are we going to do? This Sean Combs shit is not stopping. You guys, the listeners want to hear it. I know they want to hear it. You guys have written to me about it numerous times. Many of you have. And, but I don't want to cannibalize what we have going on here and just kind of eat the whole show up and suck up all the oxygen or whatever metaphor you want use. So I think what I'm going to do is I'm actively pursuing a way to tell the Sean Combe's story

with my form of storytelling and how that comes to life. We've got some ideas. We're working with some different people. I haven't quite nailed it down yet, but I'm on it. Now, as it pertains to the week-to-week nature of this scandal as it unfolds, I think what we're going to do is in the after-party, there will be a Sean Combs section that I will just, I'll continue to bring you guys up to speed. I will continue to bring you up to speed, most likely here in the wide version of the show, but also in the all-access version of the bonus show that the Patreon members get. And so I'm going to do a little bit of that now right before we get to Adam from Locke Connie. This Buzzbee guy who we talked about, last week we talked about the lawsuit,

the civil lawsuit that he filed with six different complaints. alleging abuse. Okay, he filed another one this week with five, five alleged victims coming forward for some pretty damning information. And he is alleging Tony Busby for the first time rape, abuse of a minor. So this changes things quite significantly. And I'm telling you this. First of all, the specifics of the allegations are more horrifying than the specifics of the allegations that I read you last week from the Macy's stockroom with Sean Diddy Combs. It should be noted that Diddy's lawyers have denied that these allegations are true. And I'm not going to do the thing where I'm going to detail the rape here and go through the

whole thing here again like I did last week. I'm just going to tell you some facts on what's happening with this case. Busby is going full speed ahead like we thought he would. And I have a feeling that every week we're going to get a handful of new VIII. victims who come forward with lawsuits from Busby's law office. Now, the reason I bring up the 13-year-old here, because in the federal indictment, which still remains as Sean Combs' biggest obstacle here, okay, is the federal case against him. That is why he is in jail. Okay, he's not in jail because of these civil complaints, obviously. But in the federal indictment, there's nothing about minors. now if the evidence that Busby is bringing forth in these new civil complaints

becomes information and evidence that the federal prosecutors put into a superseding indictment in other words if they get wind of some of these allegations and decide that there's enough real evidence there that they want to roll the rape of children into their federal indictment that is going to make Sean Combs's life infinitely more difficult because the way Sean Combs is setting up his defense right now is that he is stating that all of these relationships, the freakoffs, everything that's been alleged in the federal indictment was consensual. That's the defense that his attorneys are going to put up. And that is, uh, it's not easy to defend, to put that defense forward, I should say, but it is a lot easier to do that than it is to argue against the fact that he's being alleged that he abused minors. I'm trying to be very careful with my words here, as you can tell. And the reason that it is more difficult to do the latter is because consent doesn't enter into this in any way, shape, or form, because they're minors. Okay? So if that happens,

And that's a big if, but I don't know, the people I'm listening to, the people I'm talking to, they're not ruling it out. Now, if that happens, Sean Combs' life becomes much, much more difficult. So I'm keeping an eye on that. We get into the all-axis portion of this. I'm going to talk a little bit more about the specifics here of these new allegations that have come out. But I want to give you guys, because I get asked this question a lot, what do you think is going to happen? When is this going to happen? Is there going to be a trial? Is he going to be found guilty? I want to give you a little bit of news that broke over the last two weeks and just explain to you what I think is going to happen in this case over the next six, 12, 18 months. Sean Combs has a trial date for May 5th, 2004. Sean Combs' team pursued that trial date. They wanted the trial to happen as soon as possible.

Now, on the other hand, Sean Combs is making his, I think it's his third appeal to get out on bail. I'm not going to get into the mechanics of it because it's very complicated. It involves two different judges. And I would have to say at this juncture right now, as I'm recording this on October 23rd, 2004, it looks like Sean Combs might actually be able to get out on bail. Now, I'm not saying it's definitely going to happen, but I'm saying it is 50-50, if not slightly better than that, that he gets out on bail. Now, if he gets out on bail, his legal team is going to quickly change course, I believe, and try to get the trial delayed because now he'll be out of jail. So he's no longer incentivized to get this trial up and running as soon as possible, okay, because he'll be out. And he's going to try and mount his defense from outside of a jail cell, which makes total sense. But if he gets out on the bail, what I'm saying is if he gets out on bail, look for the trial to start much later. Now, I don't know how they're going to postpone it. I don't know how the defense is going to

postpone it, but they're going to try and, you know, they're getting paid a lot of money, not because they're stupid. So they might figure out a way. Now, on the other hand, you've got to keep in mind also that if the scenario comes forward that I mentioned earlier, if that actually happens, where the federal prosecutors decide that they need to add additional charges here. That becomes what I believe is called a superseding indictment, and then that will most definitely kick the start date of this trial down the road even further. So is it likely that this trial starts on May 5th, 2024? I'm saying 50-50 at best. I'm no legal expert. I'm just telling you what I know, and I'm doing it not only because you're asking, I'm doing it for this other reason.

Then I'm going to start to tell this story. And all of these elements are going to be part of it. And they're all going to be relevant in how I tell the story. They're all going to make me tell the story in a different way. They're all going to make me bring it to you at a different time. So I'm just laying it all out there for you so you know where I'm coming from. All right, Sean Combs, putting it to bed. If you want in on these insane allegations, I'm going to get into that a little bit more in the All-Axas version of this coming up soon. Right now, I want to kick it to my interview with my good friend, Adam, from Low Cut Connie. For those of you who don't know, I've been friends with Adam now a couple years, probably five years, something like that.

The cool thing about this was I was a huge fan of his band before we were friends. And we just sort of became friends as, you know, through being a fan of his band, which is always a good thing. You guys have that experience with bands you love as well. I know it. Adam's got a new film out right now called Art Dealers, which is fantastic. You can go get that anywhere. I mean, it's available wherever you stream films. And he's got a new record coming, a live record coming out, I believe, November 1st.

And he's got a huge catalog of Loka Kaniya. albums, all of them are great. I shit you not. They are all incredible. Like I said, I talk about these guys all the time, one of the last great rock and roll bands out there. With no more further ado, here's my recent conversation with Adam from Loka Connie. Adam, where are you at? Are you in Philly? Yes, I just got home the other night from my tour. We got a little break in the tour. How long is, how long is tour? The leg you just finished and the leg you're about to go on. Man, we just did 12 days.

I'm home through the election. And then we do another 12, 13 days. And then we got like, I don't know, six or seven in December. We do all these annual things in December. And then I'm taking kind of a bigger break than I've taken for a while, a couple months. Right now. Well, that's a good time for it after the holidays. So I watched the movie.

So for those of you guys listening, Adam, Adam from Locke Kani has this new movie out called Art Dealers. And I would, I don't know if this is the right categorization, but I would call it a concert film, even though it's not billed as such. Adam and his band are playing, and it's great. And I love how it starts with a full performance, which I think is freaking awesome. And then there's really just cutaways that follow you in the band. And, you know, it's not, it's not Hammer of the Gods, right? This is not like you're not cutting away to like wizards and shit, but you are cutting away to your real life,

which is really frigging interesting. And the juxtaposition is fantastic because I know you, but I really only know you when you're out on the road and playing. I mean, that's really, we've done some gigs together and stuff. We've collaborated on things, always sort of around a stage. And I don't know much about your home life. I don't know anything about your bandmates' home life.

And to get to see them in that atmosphere is really interesting. I just want to know, like, what made you make, it's hard to make a movie, hard for a musician to make a movie, what made you go ahead and do this? Well, I've always wanted to make a film and I didn't know that it would be a film about myself, but, you know, I always wanted to make something big and beautiful, you know, with my songs on film. And during a pandemic, I went through this thing, Jake, where I was like, maybe I missed a chance. to document low-cut Connie because I was always pretty bad about getting any kind of video footage of us doing shows. And we had a pretty killer decade leading up to the pandemic. And we had built something pretty magical, very powerful.

And then it was like, whoa, maybe it's over. Maybe I don't have this band when I come back. if we come back, maybe the audience moves on. Maybe I'm not as healthy. Maybe it's just not there anymore, you know? And I felt like I missed my moment. And then coming out of the pandemic, we did like five shows. Was our like comeback stick at the end of 21?

Not only were the crowd's bigger, but the shows had like a different vibe. It was cathartic. It was like going to church. I'm an atheist Jew, but it's the closest thing to go in a church that I've experienced. People are crying. They've got their hands in the air. People are yelling, testify. I mean, it was so powerful. Like, the relationship between the fans and the music got so much deeper. And I said, let's make this movie right now. Let's do it right now. Smart. That makes sense. You know, the obvious question is, why do you think there was this kind of

this transition into this different vibe at the live shows. But I think I know part of that answer and part of that's because of what you did during the pandemic, where you took advantage of the pandemic in a way that, I mean, almost better than anyone did. I know what that was. Why you share that a little bit with the disgrace land listeners? Well, this room that I'm in right now talking to you, which is a tiny little spare bedroom in South Philly in my house, you know, I spent a year and a half every day in this room building this live stream series called Tough Cookies. And man, we did 115 episodes.

And, you know, to put it simply to your listeners, what it was was me sitting in my underwear playing songs. Okay. But it was really like this interactive variety show. and it started the first week of the quarantine. My publicist said to me, just go live and do something. And I said, I've never done anything like that.

I've never gone live. Nobody wants to see me in my house. He said, just do it. So we did one with no plan. And we had about 5,000 people watching. And I did a second one on the Saturday. This is the first week of quarantine. And there were 40,000 people.

Wow. Watching me and my underwear and Willie, my guitar player, the two of us, we were looking at each other afterwards. Like, what's going on? And there's something very powerful that happened, Jake, which was that after that second broadcast, I got this video message from these ICU nurses at a hospital in New Jersey. and they showed themselves with an iPad showing my tough cookie show to these critically ill patients in the ICU. Wow.

And on this broadcast, I'm telling people, mazeltub motherfuckers, you made it through another day. We got to keep your hopes up. You've got to keep going. You cannot get depressed. We've got to keep moving.

We've got to keep connected. You know, it was there to come. kind of just lift people up. And when I saw that these nurses were showing it to these critically ill patients and it was helping people, I said, I'm going to do this thing until this quarantine is over. Now, I thought that that would be a couple weeks, but it ended up being a year and a half. Yeah, you can feel that spirit, like you mentioned at the top of this conversation and

just reinforced there. You can feel it in the film. You can feel it from the audience. you can feel it from the filmmaking. And I think it's really hard to capture the spirit of rock and roll on film. Never mind the unique situation that Locke-Khani was in post-pandemic, which is captured in art dealers. So, Mazel To you, Mazel To You, Mausel To Beov.

So it's a tremendous movie. It's fantastic. Thank you, man. You're welcome. And I recommend all disgrace Sam listeners, go check it out. You can get it. It's available everywhere,

Apple, Amazon, YouTube, all over the place. There's something that you say, however. Now, we've talked a lot. We've talked a lot about our music that we love. We talked a lot about our careers, what we're doing, where we're going,

what we're into, the challenges. There was a lyric I picked out from a song of the film. This kind of loneliness goes out of style. And to me, that hit me as a guy who's like, I don't know why you wrote it or what, but I'm just going to tell you my interpretation and then you can tell me why you wrote it and whatever. And if I get it wrong, that's fine. You know, we all interpret things differently. But to me, I felt it as a guy who's been on the road and been just this feeling of even when things are going great, it's still so fucking lonely, man. It's so lonely. And you've been doing this a long time and you're not stopping. And I was just curious, that line just hit me. I was like, huh, what was Adam thinking when he wrote that? Wasn't thinking about anything, but I like your interpretation.

I mean, one of the things, you know, when I first started playing music, long before I met you, I was a piano player in a gay bar. There was a bar in Manhattan called Pegasus at 59th in Lexington. That was a wild bar. I mean, nudist night and drag karaoke on Saturdays. And it was so eye-opening to me. It was like a whole new world. And I was the piano player.

And I met all these people in this bar who had been in New York City for like 30 years plus, dancers, choreographers, singers, fashion designers, models, like all these art people. older gay people that hung out in this bar and they would talk to me about living in these rent control departments that they got in the 70s and 60s and a lot of you should have seen it when kind of stuff right right right right right right

and being around these people who had like just lived and breathe their scene and many of them were very poor and were living very modest, you know, circumstances as New York was becoming a place where poor people can't really live. And they're telling them about these incredible art scenes, about hanging out with Basquiat and hanging out with Bowie and some of the older ones hanging out with Judy Garland. I mean, people who have been around some of the great,

great moments, you know. I was thinking about those people during a pandemic. Where are they now? Are they alive? Are they gone? Does anybody remember these folks? I remember them. And I was thinking about myself and all my pals who, you know, we burn to make art every day.

And we do it for years and decades. And I was going through a what's at all for kind of moment. for sure. And coming out of it and getting back on stage and singing about that felt good. You know, what I'll add to that, not to be too cynical, but we're in this age of optimism, as they say, in which our culture, even though socially, politically, et cetera, things are really falling apart at the seams. At the same time, our general culture is really enamored with extremely commercial, two-dimensional pop music that's very positive in nature. Mm-hmm.

You know, like very escapist pop music is like so in fashion right now. I agree. And it absolutely does not scratch any itch for me. With you. At all. Yeah. It's funny to hear you say that because, you know, independent of you coming on, this week

it just happened I was in a conversation with my listeners about it was because we did this cramps episode and it was about Lux Interior's definition of real rock and roll and there's a cynicism in real rock and roll he doesn't say that but it's true

it's there and anyone who knows rock and roll knows that so anyways we've been having this conversation here in this space about how there aren't any rock and roll bands left and how rock is dead. But that conversation takes place in the confines of popular mainstream culture. And I even name-checked you guys. And I was like, as an example of there are rock bands out there killing it every night. But there are no rock bands with top 10 hits anymore who are driving culture. And maybe,

you know, we've been trying to figure out why. Maybe you're hitting it on the head because that cynicism isn't allowed anymore. It's not in fashion. As I say, it's out of stuff. style, you know. Exactly. And frankly, even though social media rules our lives,

for some reason, music that talks about the human condition and the state of play in our culture is also out of fashion. It's a very escapist era that we're in right now.

And so songs about revolution, songs about conflict, songs about, you know, corruption and fucked-upedness in all forms, they ain't rising to the top right now. The algorithm is not bringing that music out right now. Yeah, fuck the algorithm. And if rock and roll is a truth-telling medium, or a medium of a medium of, of like catharsis, bring out what's real and what you feel.

It's not the era for it in terms of popularity. But I'll tell you, I don't care because I like being a cult band in this time. And what you're doing is resonating. It's connecting. Your relationship with your fans is unique. It's truly unique. If you're at a Loka Connie show, you are part of, like you said, it's like a, I don't know if you said revival, but you said, testify.

There's some quasi-spiritual thing that's going on. You can feel it. It's transcendent. In the movie, there's this great scene. It reminded me of, so I want to tell the listeners, so I went to see you guys. I've seen you guys a lot. I don't know how many times,

but I went to see you. I happen to be on vacation with my family on Martha's Vineyard. And I went to see on Martha's Vineyard. You guys killed it. And I remember catching up with you a week or so later, I think in Newport and you were like, oh, what fucking, you missed it, man. What happened after that show was so fucking wild. Do you remember?

Because there was a scene in the movie that reminded me of this story. Do you remember what happened to you after that show? I do because it's the only time in the history of the band in the thousand shows or whatever that we had to charter our own boat. You know, it's an island. And we had a gig in Massachusetts. day and the ferry stops. We were on at like 11 and not. I don't remember. We got out of there at midnight and they said, no, the ferry stopped running. So some guy, and I'm pretty

sure his name was Spanky, this guy with a cigarette hanging out of his mouth, he said, I'll take you guys on my boat. And we had to take our piano on this guy's boat. He had nothing to tie the boat, the piano down. So we all just sort of like held the piano down. What size boat is this that you're on now? This is like... I would say you could probably fit maybe 12 to 15 people on it. Yes. So it's like at most a 20 foot boat. It's not, you're not on an actual ferry. And this is at like one, two o'clock in the morning. About two o'clock, yeah. In the middle of the fucking Atlantic Ocean, okay? This is not like, you're not on a pond, you know? And it's, it's, it's, it's,

a good hours ferry drive, something like that, 45 minutes at least. So, but what happens when you're holding down the piano, literally? I was getting like pretty nauseous. So I was like, I'm just going to start playing songs because that'll keep me. So I started, I remember playing Gilligan's Island and Margaritaville and stuff on this boat. But that's just another day at the office when you're, when you tour the way we do, which is truly insane. You know, people get this image of touring that's glamorous. And I think it comes from these films from our biggest pop stars that have come out in the last few years, Lady Gaga, Beyonce, Taylor Swift, they've put out these concert films. There's a number of them.

And they show the touring. And those are truck tours with multiple trucks and buses. And we're in a van pulling a trailer with a piano in it. Right. You know, the members of the band are carrying a 400-pound piano up a flight of stairs to get onto the stage, you know. In art dealers, there's a scene where, and I want to know the story behind this, you're in a back alley, somewhere it looks like the northeast or the Midwest, there's snow on the ground. I think you're in a rip tank top and you have a towel around your neck. It looks to be freezing out, and it's you.

Denver. Denver, okay. And it looks like there's two bouncers. standing, you know, on each side of you. And then there's about, you know, 20 or so fans and like 10 feet from you. And they're all singing your song to you. You're just in the alley. Like, I'm guessing after a show.

Like, what was that? It's amazing. What happened was a man collapsed at the show. He had like a cardiac event. He hit his head. We had to stop the show, EMT, the whole thing. and we got the show going again and some schmuck pulled the fire alarm

and I still to this day nobody knows why that happened but we all had to evacuate it was 10 degrees outside and we were waiting from the staff to hear are they going to let everybody back in and they give me the message

we're not going to be allowed back into the venue and so these fans just started singing my song Rio and it was a nice ending to the night yeah yeah it's beautiful it's a beautiful moment just it's quick but it's like it's very telling and if i didn't know you guys i didn't know the band and i saw that it'd be like who the fuck are these guys i need i need some of this in my life um so art dealers the film uh that's out now you guys can watch that like i said anywhere album coming out as well November 1st right yeah Connie live now is that is that is that

one show how did you how did you do it is it where was it tell me a little bit about that it's essentially the soundtrack to the film it's a lot of the songs from the movie plus some others but it's all recorded in 2022 oh okay same period right um when the band you know i've had 30 people in this band right 13 drummers but this lineup that's in the film was just so special. I felt like it was kind of like a culmination of over a decade of work. Yeah. And everybody was really firing on all cylinders. And I'd never done a live album before. And I thought, this is such an amazing representation of the 13 years of this band. And the whole catalog, it turned out pretty good. And listen, I'm just

riding a wave. I wish I could tell you there was a lot of planning going on, but this whole band is an accident. It's all, as I say, in the film, an unplanned pregnancy. I was already 30. I was already in my 30s when this band started, and so I'm just stumbling my way through this whole thing, and it just keeps growing and expanding and changing, and I just try to grow and expand with it. Yeah. Well, it's working, man. It's working. One of the things that I like about our relationship is whenever we get together and talk, you always, you can, I do the same thing, much to my wife's annoyance, where I relate everything back to some rock and roll story. You do the same thing. And you know a lot about music that I don't know, which is why I like

hanging out with you. You have tremendous taste. incredible taste and you're a rock and roll your music historian as well even if you don't call yourself that that's what you are but I told you when we talked about doing this conversation here that it's Halloween here and disgrace land and we're heavy into the the October programming here so it's like Adam it would be great if you could come on and treat me like a total novice and explain to me screaming Jay Hawkins because he's somebody that I don't know a lot about I just guessed that you do know a lot about it you know we didn't prep for this hardly at all and um i've been asked continuously to do an episode on screaming j hawkins and all i know about the guy besides i put

a spell on you is uh i think he had something like you know 75 children or something like that yeah and uh that we know of that we know of and that that's really it i mean i put him on spotify as i was setting up the mic and i heard a covering paul mccartney's monkberry moon delight which was so good um but yeah man just lay it on me lay it on the description Graceland listeners, anything about Screaming Jay Hawkins, particularly as it pertains to sort of the darker Halloween horror type stuff? I mean, Screamin' Jay Hawkins, first of all, people will probably know I put a spell on you. Right, exactly. I put a spell on you as a standard. And maybe they know the Nina Simone version.

Credence. The Credence version. Yeah. But Screamin'J, that was his song. And it's, I still think one of the greatest rock and roll songs ever recorded. And there's no other song like it. There's truly no other song like it. He was drunk off of his face when he made that song, self-admittedly, and you can tell. But what's funny that I think is interesting about it is in his drunkenness, in this vocal performance,

he accesses this place that's like simultaneously terrifying, confusing and very sad. You know, the tenor of that song is, you don't love me anymore, and I need to put like a hoodoo on you to trick you back into loving me again. And why don't you love me anymore, you know? He was a total one-off.

He would come out on stage in a coffin. They'd bring him out of the coffin. He'd have a bone in his nose. He'd have a scepter with shrunken heads. hanging off of it. It was extremely macab as they say, right? It was dark.

It was scary. And he had this operatic, trained operatic voice, which you can hear in these recordings. Really? Like, formerly trained? I mean, he could have been at the Metropolitan Opera in his career.

I mean, that's how powerful a singer he was. But thank goodness he used those skills. for something so strange and original. And there's a collection called Cow Fingers and Mosquito Pie. That's a pretty good introduction. He wrote some incredible songs, Frenzy. And then later, interestingly enough, Tom Waits became a huge, you know, sort of protege of his.

When you talk about the strangiosity, when you go into a recording studio, what Scream and Jay would do is he'd try to create that theater of the mind where you're hearing, he'd create like a jungle scene, right? And you're hearing people, you're hearing like cheetahs and lions in the distance

and mosquitoes buzzing, and then people screaming, and then all these weird instruments, and it's this very three-dimensional sound, you know? Did Waits do that with sort of the, you know, I was born in the back of a taxi cab type vibe with the cityscape and all that? I think around the time of swordfish trombones

with Tom Waits going into the 80s, when he got really deep into this three-dimensional theater of the mind style of recording. Yeah. Where the different people are at different distances from the microphone to create this three-dimensional space in your mind. I really feel like that was dissent. from Screamin' Jay Hawkins.

And also that combination that Tom Waits has of the sort of dark, seedy underbelly, mixed with romanticism. You know, that Screamin'J is, it's scary in the way that a horror film is scary, but it's also like tender. There's a lot of love subjects in his songs. Yeah, yeah.

Well, that probably speaks to his appeal. I wonder was, was I put a spell on you? Was that a hit hit or was it like a novelty hit? Both. I mean, that really was a hit. He did it on television. He became rather famous from it on the level of like a Buddy Holly or something in the middle 50s. But he was just so whack-a-doodle that he didn't have a second hit.

So what's the story with the 70 plus kids? Is it just exactly what we imagined it to be? Or is there anything else worth mentioning there? All I know is in 2001, I think it was. I was working. I was an intern at a radio station in Memphis, Tennessee. And my boss at the time, he said, check this out. And he gives me this letter that they got.

And it was from a website called jayskids.com. and it was some of his family members going around and asking radio stations to broadcast this thing where they were like, if you think that you are the descendant of Screaming Jay Hawkins, go to jayskids.com and register for a paternity test. Oh my God. Wild. And my understanding, I thought the number was 57 verified. I know there were hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of shows. submissions.

There's a little film that people can watch online about this because a number of the verified children got together. And it's kind of freaky because they kind of all look like Screaming Jay. Wow. And he was a pretty crazy looking guy. Yeah, yeah. But man, he had kids all over the world, Philippines, Hawaii, New York, Germany. I mean, he really spread it around.

What was the Memphis station? I got to ask. Man, there's a radio show, and it's still going strong. It's called Beale Street Caravan. Okay. And I've actually been interviewed on that show for low-cut Connie. But when I was 21 years old, I was at the University of Memphis doing musicology, and I was the intern there editing their interviews.

And, man, they interviewed Sam Phillips, Steve Cropper, Al Green. man, Rufus Thomas, all these amazing legends mostly of Memphis music. Yeah, yeah.

Was Alex Chilton there at that time or was he in Louisiana? Alex did not live in Memphis at the time, but my stay in Memphis was when I fell in love

with Alex's music and met my good friend to this day, Jody Stevens from Big Star. Yeah, yeah. And speaking of

Alex Chilton, you know, we were fortunate enough to get clearance from his family to cover, Hey, Little Child in the film, Art Dealers. I saw that. Between you and me, we also covered a Madonna song, but we were denied the license to put that in the film. Which song?

Dress you up. Nice. Gonna dress you up in my love. All over your body. Damn, man. I can't believe that wasn't allowed. That sucks. You know what?

You know what they said? No. Because by the way, if Madonna had heard it, she would have said yes. Right, right. But that's one of her songs that she didn't participate in the writing. It was this married couple. And they didn't like that I said the word motherfucker during the performance of the song. Dude, what year is this?

Unbelievable. Unreal. Unreal. All right. Well, hey, next time. Next one, you should be doing borderline anyways. That's the Madonna song. I have covered, you know what, I'm going to say this right here on the air with you.

I've been toying with doing a low-cut Connie covers Madonna full album. I love that. I've been like toying with that for a few years. I love that. Because over the years, I have covered a number of Madonna songs. And I do them my way. Yeah, yeah. But there's so many of her songs that are so elemental that they're good.

They're kind of great in any presentation. Yeah, yeah. So maybe I'll do that, man. There you go. I love it. Come back on. We'll talk about it when you do do it. Okay.

I will invite Screaming Jay's kids on, too. It'll be a blast. Dude. Everybody, Adam from low-cut Connie, art dealers. Remind me what the name of the new album is. It's coming on on November 1st. This will hit before that. Connie Live.

Connie Live. That's easy to remember. Thanks, dude. Appreciate you. Thank you for coming on. Thank you, my man. I appreciate you. All right, guys.

as you can see, Adam is a smart, passionate musician, artist. Love that conversation. Hope you dug it as well. Hope you check out his movie. Hope you check out his music. Hope you go see them live. Locke Connie is incredible live. You will have an amazing time.

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