DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode: Shocking Details in D4vd’s Evidence Brief Surrounding the Murder of Celeste Rivas Hernandez

Episode Date: May 14, 2026

The newly revealed evidence from prosecutors detailing the alleged murder of a 14 year old by rising hip hop star D4vd are as shocking as they are dumb. You will not believe what this musician is bein...g accused of. Plus your thoughts on the Mount Rushmore of guitar players, Sean Diddy Combs, and the May-Madness Sitcom Music Slugfest with your voicemails, texts, DMs, and more. For more great music and true crime stories, check out our extensive archive, featuring episodes like: Van Halen The Cramps AC/DC Jimi HendrixSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:52 Hey, Discos, need a little more disgrace land in your life? Just a touch, to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the After Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, a little third. we like to call the after party. This is the show after the show,
Starting point is 00:02:24 the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of disgrace land to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. On this bonus episode, we are talking about the shockingly stupid evidence that's piling up
Starting point is 00:02:36 against hip-hop star David's alleged gruesome murder of a 14-year-old. We're also discussing the Mount Rushmore of guitar players and we got an update on our May Madness sitcom music Slug Fest
Starting point is 00:02:48 plus your voicemails, text, emails, DMs, comments. And as always, a whole lot of rosy. This is the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know that the best history is a history that gets buried. Disgraced land is where I tell the stories they didn't want told. The kind you'll end up telling someone else. All right, Discos, let's get into it. All right, I don't want to come off as outraged or shocked, but that's what I am, right? And I'm kind of pissed off at myself because all last week, we were talking about the quote unquote most upsetting
Starting point is 00:03:32 stories from music history. And there was one developing in real time right under our noses, and we didn't talk about it. I'm talking about David, the rising hip-hop star, whose name is spelled D4VD, and the alleged murder, gruesome murder of a 14-year-old, his 14-year-old girlfriend. Now, the story of David and his 14-year-old girlfriend, Celeste. Revis Hernandez. It's about as upsetting as it gets. Now, I've known about the allegations against David for some time now. This story has been in the news, but a lot of new news broke over the last, call it week and a half, something like that, when a new evidence brief was introduced in court in Los Angeles regarding this case. And what came out of that brief are shocking, shocking,
Starting point is 00:04:32 details about this crime that this star is being alleged to have committed. Now, again, his 14-year-old girlfriend, Celeste Revis Hernandez. You might see her name as just as Celeste Revis. I've seen it both ways. Celeste Revis Hernandez. Celeste Revis, BBC, had the Hernandez part. So the Rolling Stone, that's what I'm going with. So the victim, Celeste Revis Hernandez, was 14 years old, 11 years old when this musician,
Starting point is 00:04:59 David, met her, okay? Now, I was aware of that, and I was also aware of the, the grisly nature of this crime, the grisly act, which this artist is being accused of. But I was unaware of the details, like I said, until today. And that's because those details came out in court in this new evidence brief. And yesterday, presumably because the details of this crime are so damning, are so gruesome. David's defense team formally requested and received a delay in the trial. Now, normally in a case like this that's developing, you know, as we're talking to each other week to week, I typically avoid those stories, unless they're huge, like the Sean Diddy Combs story,
Starting point is 00:05:45 I typically avoid those stories until all the dust is settled, until there's been a trial, until there's been some sort of legal resolution, until all of the news has come out for the most part. And, you know, at that point, I can piece together the story and I can tell it to you. This story, on the other hand, is a little bit different. It's a little bit like the Sean Combs story because these details are unbelievable. And, you know, again, it's all alleged, but I have a real feeling about this one. Okay? These facts, these details, the stuff that's going on in this Los Angeles courtroom surrounding this artist, it's going to be
Starting point is 00:06:26 too hard for us to ignore. So I'm going to get into it with you guys here in the after-party bonus episodes, and I'm absolutely telling this story as soon as this trial wraps. It's fascinating, like I said, and it's totally upsetting. For those who are unaware, okay, here we go. Up until last fall, David was one of pop music's rising stars. Okay? Last year, last spring, 2025, he turned in an acclaimed performance at Coachella. He showed up at fashion. week in Paris. He booked a bunch of brand deals. This guy was a real rising star.
Starting point is 00:07:02 This was not some, you know, hip-hop artists with a sound cloud who got into trouble and who they're trying to make it seem like he had this real career when he didn't just so they can get clicks and inflate his importance so that the story seems more relevant. No, this guy, no, this guy was a legit rising star until they found a body in the trunk of his Tesla. The body was the victim, his 14-year-old girlfriend, Celeste Rivas Hernandez.
Starting point is 00:07:35 14 years old, I can't get over this. I just cannot. Her poor, poor parents, her poor family. Now, the story, it's why I love these court documents. They read, like, sometimes, if they're done right,
Starting point is 00:07:52 they read, like, incredible, crime novels, the details, the compelling details in the evidence brief that was released just last week are amazing. The story goes like this. It's alleged that David began pursuing Celeste when she was 11 years old and he was 18 and it's unclear when exactly they actually hooked up. But it does appear from what I read that the relationship began in Erdus when she was 13 years old and again, he was a full grown man. Reportedly, as the new evidence brief indicated, David drove his car down to Celeste's junior high school, high school? I'm not exactly sure.
Starting point is 00:08:33 14 years old, probably high school, freshman I'm guessing. David drove his car down there. It was like a south of Los Angeles and he found one of Celeste's classmates paid him $1,000 to deliver a cell phone to Celeste so that he could communicate with the 14-year-old, presumably because her parents were on to the situation and didn't want their daughter communicating with a 21-year-old or 20-year-old, however old he was at the time, 20-21-year-old man, understandably. So he pays this dude $1,000, this kid, I should say, a thousand bucks to deliver the cell phone to Celeste.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Now, techs recovered from that cell phone. There's a lot of sexual content. There's photos, photographs, video, I think, as well, of... the two of them. And there's a lot of conversations between the two about sex and about the consequences of sex, pregnancy, the morning after pill, et cetera. There's also, of course, their conversation, their normal conversation. And in the course of that conversation, at some point, Celeste becomes annoyed with David and complains that, quote, all we do is have sex and just hang out. And I want more than that for myself, unquote. Now, the evidence brief claims that in November of 2024,
Starting point is 00:09:56 just as David's career is taking off in earnest, as plans to perform at Coachella are cemented as his trip to Paris for Fashion Week is coming into play as big dollar brand deals are being booked. Right around this time, Celeste starts to get jealous of David's rising star and worried about his growing success and what that meant for their relationship. that's when David breaks it off with Celeste. Prosecutors claim that the text revealed that Celeste was extremely upset and threatened to use the evidence that she had.
Starting point is 00:10:30 I'm assuming the photographs of a sexual nature that the two were texting back and forth to one another to take their relationship public into, quote, unquote, the brief actually says that this is what Celeste told David. She was going to bring the relationship public to, quote, destroy his life. Can you imagine the defense of the defense, attorneys hearing this evidence, getting wind of this evidence, it's no wonder they requested
Starting point is 00:10:54 that the trial be delayed so that they can prepare. Court reporters revealed via TMZ that as this evidence was being recounted, David sat slouched in his chair the entire time, apparently completely nonplussed. And apparently the recounting of the details of this shocking crime did not rattle the young musician. Prosecutors are claiming that in the midst of this breakup between David and Celeste. David sent an Uber to pick Celeste up on April 23rd, 2025. Celeste then arrived at David's home according to Uber records at 10.10 p.m. Okay? And it appears that by 10.30 p.m., Celeste was dead, stabbed to death, allegedly by her boyfriend, who sat and watched as the 14-year-old bled out on his floor right in front of him. At 1030,
Starting point is 00:11:48 David texted Celeste asking where she was. Now, prosecutors claimed that this was part of the cover-up, okay? David, the concerned boyfriend, texting about his girlfriend's whereabouts. How dumb is this guy? The Uber driver dropped her off at his home in the Hollywood Hills. I don't understand what the dude was thinking.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Was he going to claim that the coyotes gutter? That Manson family castoffs they're still roaming the Hollywood Hills, perhaps they took Celeste. It's unclear what David is alleged to have done with the body in the immediate aftermath because it took the musician six days to order from Amazon and Postmates, and I kid you not, two chainsaws, a body bag, two heavy-duty laundry bags, and a small blue inflatable kitty pool that he had delivered to his house again where the Uber dropped off his girlfriend who was now reported missing.
Starting point is 00:12:47 A few weeks after the chainsaws and the body bag were delivered, weird question, by the way, when did we start making it so you could order body bags off of Amazon? But that's just beside the point. Anyway, a few days after the chainsaws and the body bag were delivered to David's home, David started visiting a remote piece of land off of Route 154 in Santa Barbara County. Presumably, this is, authorities figured out where David went here after his girlfriend went missing because Tesla's, they make a digital record of where the car goes. But David here, our criminal mastermind, our Menta candidate, did not know this. And we should just remind people he also had the victim delivered to his house in Uber that he paid for.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Okay. So my point is, I guess it's no wonder that he didn't realize that the Tesla's GPS was recording where he was going. Anyways, the order of events here, it's sketchy from the evidence brief, but what prosecutors are alleging in short is that David Stabbed Celeste in his home, then hid her identification somewhere on the side of the road, then dismembered her body with a chainsaw that he ordered from Home Depot via postmates. And he did that in an inflatable pool that he purchased on Amazon and then stuffed her in a body bag that he also purchased on Amazon. put the dismembered and bag body into the trunk of his Tesla. Now, it's alleged in the brief that friends complained about the smell coming from the car and that David then moved his car to the street about 400 feet from his house, again, mens a candidate, and left it there with the rank body decomposing in the trunk.
Starting point is 00:14:34 David then split for tour in July of 2025. While he's gone on tour, his car is towed. impounded. The flies hovering around the car in the tow yard were relentless, apparently. So the trunk of the car was open. Celeste dismembered head and torso were found. Her ring and middle fingers were not. David's home was eventually searched. And of all the stupid shit that this dude is alleged to have done this far, this might be the dumbest. In reading the evidence brief, I can't be certain, but it appears that this guy kept the kitty pool, the blue inflatable kitty pool that he bought on Amazon and that he used to capture the blood from the dismembering of the body, he kept that in his garage and it was found
Starting point is 00:15:26 when police searched his home. If record sales correlated to stupidity, this guy would be Michael fucking Jackson. Now, there are many, many acts of supreme stupidity from rock stars throughout music history from the benign and the innocent to the depraved and the gruesome. And I asked Zeth to come up with a list for us to discuss in the exclusive section of the after party coming up right after this. Go to disgracelandpod.com to unlock exclusive content like this plus ad-free listening. Now, I don't think there's any way David gets off. But we have to just note all this is alleged. Nothing has been proven. This guy is still innocent until proven guilty. There's so much more evidence in the brief here that I did.
Starting point is 00:16:09 not get into that is truly dramatic and that we're going to dive into, like I said, once the trial ends, we'll do a proper episode on David. Now, okay, Steve Irre Vaughn, is he on your mount Rushmore of Guitarist? We released our SRV episode this week and that was the question of the week that we asked. We'll get into your answers shortly. I'm sure some of you will have something to say about the Sean Combs episodes as well that we released over the weekend as part of our rewind. coming up next right after this episode on Sunday in our rewind slot this week, our episode on Ariana Grande and the tragedy that took the lives of 22 people at her show in Manchester in 2017. And then next week on Tuesday, our new episode on Christina Grimmie, this is another tragic tale,
Starting point is 00:16:52 the story of a young talent who is gunned down by a deranged psychopath. And the question I want you guys to be thinking about while you're listening to this Christina Grimmy episode is which rock star assassination affected you the most. I can tell you for me, it was most certainly John Lennon's assassination. I was a little boy. It messed me up. And, you know, shocked me in a way that I had never been shocked before. Again, I was really young when that happened, as I know most of you were, if you were even alive back then, blew my mind. But then another one that I found equally shocking in a different way is when I got older and I started doing the podcast and I started researching the death, the attempted assassination, I should say, of Bob Marley.
Starting point is 00:17:39 That one's mind-blowing. And we got a great episode on that if you're interested. Anyways, 617-906-66-6638 with your answers to the question, which rock star assassination affected you the most disgraceland pod on the socials? Disgracelandpod at gmail.com on the email machine. I'll be back right after this with your answers to last week's question to week. Five months, Toronto. Pride is an opportunity for you to create your own space, to celebrate your existence. IHeart Radio is proud to be an official sponsor of Pride Toronto Festival, and we won't stop. Celebrate Pride.
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Starting point is 00:20:56 Hi, this is Tracy from the 970. My Mount Rushmore guitarists are way more than four. But because it's Mount Rushmore, they are Derek Trucks, Warren Haynes, Tray Anastasio and Samantha Fish All right You may or may not agree But we all get to like what we like right
Starting point is 00:21:28 Okay thanks bye All right Tracy Thank you so much for the call Yes we do all get to like what we like I have never heard of Samantha Fish I had a look her up thank you Now I got a good recommendation here which I wasn't I wasn't expecting
Starting point is 00:21:44 Your tastes sort of tend to lean more toward the jam band side of the fence than mine do, but that doesn't mean anything because your point is a valid one. We all get to like what we like, right? Appreciate the call, Tracy. All right, let's check out this one from Melissa and the 310. Okay, it's Melissa from the 310 again. I've got to tell you about this amazing show that I always remember loving. It was Guns and Roses and TSOL.
Starting point is 00:22:14 at the palace in Hollywood and the palace is like this smallish, old-timey, very historic venue and this was in 1987 or 88, so they were just starting to get huge and it was such a rock and show.
Starting point is 00:22:33 Anyway, I just thought I'd tell you that. All my friends were goths and rockers because I love it all. Thanks for all you do. Bye. Melissa, thanks for the call. Sounds like you're having fun out there in the 310. I remember Duff McCagan wearing a TSOL shirt
Starting point is 00:22:51 in one of the Guns and Roses videos from that first album, and it was a signal that they were into punk. And back then, the metalheads and the punk rockers didn't mix together, not in my hometown anyways. So that was very interesting. And it's interesting to hear that you actually saw TSOL play with Guns and Roses. 87. I wonder who opened up that show.
Starting point is 00:23:11 I wonder if it was Guns and Roses, or I wonder if it was TSOL. well. Thanks for the call, Melissa. All right, let's check out the 612. Hey, Jake, it's Chris calling from the 612. Just got done listening to Stevie Ray Vaughn episode and thought I'd give a call and get my Mount Rushmore guitar players. I was actually at that show at Alpine Valley and called from Minnesota, and I was
Starting point is 00:23:29 15 years old drinking Coorslight party balls at Alpine Valley. And everybody thought it was Air Clifton's helicopter that crashed effort. So for a little bit, we thought Air Clafton was dead. Anyway, Mount Rushmore, top four, I'd have to say B.B. King's there for sure he's kind of the foundation for everybody else. Jerry Garcia not necessarily the technically best guitar player but he's got the feel and the sound. Number three would have to be Derek Trucks. He's just still got plenty of time to go and I think he's already up there in the Mount Rushmore and then my last is Duane Allman from Allman Brothers band. Those four you can tell
Starting point is 00:24:04 what kind of music I'm into but for me those are the Mount Rushmore guitar players. Thanks a lot keep doing what you're doing. Appreciate it. Chris appreciate the call out there in the 612 amazing that you're at that show. And I, you know, the Clapton thing blows my mind. I'd heard that before. It's wild to hear it come from somebody who was there, though. Like your list, too, especially the BB King and the Jerry Garcia parts. BB King, we need an episode.
Starting point is 00:24:28 I want to do something on Lucille and how his guitar got that name and the fire behind it, that incident. Bibi was incredible, one of a kind, incredibly, incredibly influential. So influential, I think, that his influence is kind of, People don't pay enough. It's going to sound crazy, but I just feel like people don't pay enough attention to BB King as a guitar player because he became so much more than that.
Starting point is 00:24:52 And he lived forever. But I hear you, man. And Jerry as well, incredibly inventive, incredibly inventive guitar player. All right, let's do one more voicemail here. Let's go to the 9-17. Hi, Jake. This is Taya from New York City from the 9-17. I'm catching up on podcast episodes right now as I'm running my Sunday errands.
Starting point is 00:25:13 And I just caught up on the April 9th bonus episode of Disgraceland where you asked about our podcast routines, but you also announced the huge announcement about Disgraceland joining exactly right. And it was really funny because I was washing my dishes as I was listening. And I haven't called in yet, but this was the perfect one because I got so excited when I heard about your union was exactly right that I screamed, no way with like my rubber gloves on as I'm like scrubbing pots and pans. And I was so happy to hear that because this is two podcasts I love, two podcasts I've been following for a very long time.
Starting point is 00:26:00 I'm talking about my favorite murder and just Graceland. And I've been following exactly right since the inception as well. And I love the growth. I love that my little podcast world, you know, has been used. unifying in this way. And I would think a podcast is like having your friends in your living room. And when you've been listening this long, you feel like the host of your friends, right? So I'm happy for you. I'm happy for Georgia and Karen. I'm happy for exactly right. And I'm happy for the fans. So shout out to discos. Shout out to my favorite murder, murderinos.
Starting point is 00:26:35 And shout out to everybody who listens to exactly right. Peace, guys. Taya, thank you so much for the call. I love that your podcast friends are friends. and they're all hanging out. I like the way you think about it. And I like the depiction of your Sunday, your Sunday chores in the news hitting you and you're getting all excited. Amazing.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Thank you. Thank you so much. Guys, I want to know what you're doing when you're listening to disgrace on. Let us know, get in touch like Taya here. Taya's doing her chores on Sunday and she's catching up. But we also have our rewinds on Sunday now
Starting point is 00:27:07 to make it easy for you to binge because we all get time on Sunday to just listen to some podcasts, don't we? Be like Tea. Listen to Disgraceland on the Sabbath. That's what I'm saying. Also, be like the 646 and hit me up with a text. 617-906-66-6-3-8. 646 says, hey, Robert Johnson, Chuck Barry, B, B, B, B, King, Jimmy King, Jimmy King. Jimmy Hendricks, those are the four folks on the 646's Mount Rushmore. Hard to argue me with that list. Talk about inventiveness between Robert Johnson, Chuck Barry, B, B, B, King, and Jimmy Hendricks. That's pretty incredible. 276, Texan. Hey, Johnny
Starting point is 00:27:40 Thunder is Mick Ronson, Malcolm Young, Rick Agnew, and Ivy Roershack. That's five, man. You broke the rules. I like the Ivy one, though. I really do. I'm going to talk about that more in a minute when I give you my list. 724 texts. Hey, Jake, got a chance to catch up on episodes. Surprise he didn't put Big Lurch cannibalizing his girlfriend in that list because it's one of the stuck with me after listening to your episodes. And the one I still think about when someone mentions true crime. As for my gone too soon, Mount Rush Lane Staley, Robert Johnson, Jimmy Hendricks, John Bonham. And that's it. That's the list.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Much love to you in yours later days. Did I ask the question two different ways? At the end of the Stevie Rayvon episode, did I ask who's on your Mount Rushmore of guitar players? And in the after party, did I ask about your Mount Rushmore have too soon artists? I might have. I might have. Because I got a couple texts like this, like the one from the 724. If I did that, I apologize.
Starting point is 00:28:39 But shit gets crazy right here. I can't keep track of everything. You know what I'm saying? It's a lot going on. I got a lot going on here. I got two cameras going. I got a recording software. It's all kinds of stuff.
Starting point is 00:28:51 I'm hanging on by a thread, is what I'm saying. My Mount Rushmore of four rock stars gone too soon from the 217. First, I think, is obvious. Kurt Cobain. I picture his future would have been like a reverse Dylan, where he would have slowly transitioned into a more folky type of musician. Second, Bradley Noll. third, Shannon Hoon, last, Mia Zapata.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Well, hot damn. That's a hell of a list there. Bradley Noll, Shannon Hoon, Mia Zapata, and Kirk Cobain. Can't mess with that. All right, listen, I don't have a Mount Rushmore of gone too soon artists. I probably could if I thought about it, but I wasn't prepared. I do have a Mount Rushmore of guitar players, and I assure you that none of you are going to like this.
Starting point is 00:29:39 No one is going to like anybody's answer here. I can only hope that the answers from you all prompt others to check out guitar players they may not have listened to before. And for that reason, for that reason, Poison Ivy, Roershack, is on my list of four. Now, you might be like, what the fuck, who even is that? Well, it's the guitar player for the cramps. And the inventiveness, not only of her guitar playing, but her production style around guitar concerning the specific type of punk rock they were making at the time and the limitations
Starting point is 00:30:14 they had in making it. She's incredibly, incredibly important and incredibly inventive. And I got to say, I'm listening to a lot of cramps these days. So she's just top of mind. Now, I don't know how you guys approached this list. I could have kept on that thread of going, well, I'm listening to a lot of, you know, Sonic Youth right now, which I am. So, you know, put Lee Rinaldo on the list. And why not? Or go even further, Glenn Branca, who, you know, they're thirst and more. I mean, these guys did incredible things in the advancement of guitar playing in rock and roll.
Starting point is 00:30:52 But I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to stay with the current, aside from my listening of Poison Ivy right now in the cramps. I'm going to throw it back in the opposite direction of the first guitar player. that truly, truly possessed me. And I don't use that word flippantly. I have a six-foot poster of the man right there on my door. And that is Mr. Angus Young from ACDC. Now, I know Malcolm was the brains.
Starting point is 00:31:23 His brother was the brains behind the guitar playing in ACDC. But as a 12-year-old obsessed with the hardest rock. and roll I could find the most energetic music I could find to fuel my all the testosterone I had coursing through me. Angus Young possessed me. And it wasn't just his mad looks and his schoolboy uniform and the constant ball of energy. It was actually the playing. It was the soloing was just incredible. And it wasn't like it was technical in any way. I know that. I know the slow down you who recommended Steve I and then took him off your list in the fourth. Listen, I know Angus Young, I know he was not a technically astute guitar player.
Starting point is 00:32:10 I know he's basically just injecting steroids into what Chuck Berry was doing. But that energy and that approach, it did something to me. It grabbed me and it shook me. It held me by the throat. And I couldn't listen to it. I mean, I cared about Eddie Van Halen. But look, man, you weren't going to convince me that Eddie Van Halen was better than Angus. Angus Young, you just weren't.
Starting point is 00:32:35 And I loved Eddie Van Halen. And Eddie Van Halen is number three on my list. So that's Poison Ivy, Angus Young, and Eddie Van Halen. And I know there's some of you out there who I just lost all kinds of credibility with. But I, you know, this is, this is today. This is today. This is, I'm recording this on May 13th, 20126. And I have different criteria for different selections.
Starting point is 00:33:00 The last slot goes to, someone said it earlier, the goat, and that is Jimmy Hendricks. Nobody did what Jimmy Hendricks did with the guitar before Jimmy Hendricks. And I know some of you think that our subject that this last episode of disgrace, Stan, Stevie Ray Vaughn is actually better than Jimmy Hendricks. I know you prefer his playing to Jimmy Hendricks, but all I can tell you is when I hear Steve Rayvon play, yes, I am blown away, absolutely. And I watch the clips. And I'm just, I'm so lucky.
Starting point is 00:33:30 that I got to live at the same time that this guy was making music. And yeah, I never saw him like some of you did, but I understand how important Steve Irvine is. At the same time, Steve Irvine gets so much of what he did from Jimmy Hendrix. Poison Ivy, not so much. Angus Young? Indirectly. Indirectly.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Okay? And Eddie Van Halen, like Hendricks, took everything to a whole new place. A whole new place. If you want to argue that Eddie Van Halen is better than Jimmy Hendrix, I will at least listen to you. I don't know that I'll agree with you. But when I hear Eddie Van Halen play, unlike when I hear Stevie Ray Vaughn play,
Starting point is 00:34:13 I hear more fucking Martians in his playing than I do any other guitar player. Okay? I guess that's what I'm saying. So that's my incredibly dumb list. It's Poison Ivy, Angus Young, Eddie Van Halen, and Jimmy Hendrix. You can fight me if you want to call 617-906-66-36-3-38. happy to talk to you all. I just want to read the 406 text here because I alluded to it.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Oh, yeah, Montana, Mike here. Great series. I lean towards thrash metal. So in this order, James Hetfield, buckethead, Joe Satriani, Steve Vai. Four, omit Vi. Oh, that's five. He's got five. Yeah, you can't have Steve Vai and Joe Satriotti on the same list.
Starting point is 00:34:50 Wasn't Joe Satriani Steve Vi's guitar teacher? So I think you've got to go with Satriani in this one. All right. Anyways, I'll be back right after this with a very important update. It is like love. You feel it in your heart. IR. Radio. Canada's number one streaming app for radio and podcasts,
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Starting point is 00:35:30 Stream us on your phone. Or listen now at iHeartRadio.ca. Your husband is not who you think he is. Your body is not what you saw it was. Your identity is formed by a secret history. I'm Danny Shapiro, and these are just a few of the stunning stories I'll be exploring on the 14th season of family secrets. And just then, we felt the plain turn in the air, so much so that the bags that were under people's seats just kind of flew into the aisle. Each week, we dive head first into the complex power of secrecy, how it shapes our ideas.
Starting point is 00:36:05 identities and relationships, and how it ultimately can reveal to us our truest selves. My daughter, she's pretending she doesn't know, but is trying to cook and feed me and keep me alive because I wasn't eating anything. And me pretending like everything was fine. He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move. And he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off. And that was the last time I saw him. Listen to Season 14 of Family Secrets on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Every story has a point where it's balanced on a knife's edge.
Starting point is 00:36:40 That's where we begin. For some, it's a confrontation no parent ever expects. They finally admit, we're here to take your children. The department has taken custody and we're here to take your kids. It was just shock and horror and desperation. For others, it's surviving the unthinkable. As they're having this gun battle, thousands of feet up in the air, many of the bullets start to puncture the aircraft.
Starting point is 00:37:04 I thought we were going to die then. The Knife is a podcast about real people whose lives were upended in an instant. We talked to the people who lived it, unpacking what happened, how they got through it, and what came next. And on our off-record episodes, we go even deeper into the reporting and answer the questions you can't stop thinking about. New episodes drop every Thursday on the exactly right network and the IHeart Podcast Network. Listen to the Knife on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. All right. So for those of you who missed out last week's after party who weren't with us, and if you're not on Patreon, last week we got into the very important business of determining
Starting point is 00:37:51 which classic sitcom theme songs are the best. And we got a whole team of scientists and technologists and crack researchers devoted to answering this question. And many of you have chimed in with your passionate pleas and testimonials in favor of one sitcom theme over another. And Matt here is the resident mad scientist. double all this behind this monumental question that we're trying to answer of which is the greatest sitcom theme songs. So I'm going to turn it over to Matt here for an update on our poll here. We've opened it up. Matt, I'm not going to try explaining it. Please just tell the listeners who weren't here last week what this is, what we're doing briefly and a little more brevity than you
Starting point is 00:38:35 explained it last week, what we're doing. And where the voting stands right now, and how we're trying to solve this riddle that is so important to so many of us. Matt, give us a little update. Well, we're in the thick of the second round of the tournament right now, the round of 32. A couple of really close matchups to watch here. We've got the Fresh Prince of Bel Air versus the greatest American hero. Very, very close matchup right now.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Same thing with the Flintstones versus different strokes. And we've got to see if those animated shows, the Flintstones and the Jetsons can continue their Cinderella stories in this tournament. And if you haven't voted, you've got until Friday at 1159 p.m. Eastern to cast your vote in the round of 32. Just go to patreon.com slash disgrace land and cast your vote today. All right. So there you have it. Listen, this is where we're at with our May Madness sitcom music slugfest. So you can you can let your voice be heard. You can, you can affect, you can impact. You can impact. the outcome here. Just go to Patreon to vote and be part of the conversation. And you don't have to be a
Starting point is 00:39:47 paid Patreon member to do so. Okay? Patreon.com slash disgraceland. You want to email me, Disgracelandpod at gmail.com. This one comes from John Sells. Subject, King Vaughn Raps, first serial killer. Hello, Jake, new listener, but big fan. Transplant from your my favorite murder episode, listening to your back catalog now, and I am loving it. I'm a huge punk rock fan. wife and I had no effects his hot dog in the hallway as our wedding song. Not huge into rap, but I wanted to bring this artist to your attention. A Chicago rapper named King Vaughn, who allegedly killed six to ten people, an insane case of how he killed people and had a Billboard top 100 hit going to number 40. His death led to a retaliatory murder for higher plot funded by a
Starting point is 00:40:34 Grammy award-winning artist named Little Dirk, whose trial is currently going on. There have been a few YouTube documentaries, a great one to check out is by Traplore Ross, but I'd love your take on this. And if I could recommend one song that gives you a peek behind the current to this man's life, I'd recommend Demon by King Vaughn. A huge fan, love what you do, rockerola. John Sells, thank you so much for this. You know, someone mentioned this to me years ago, and I forgot about it, and I'm going to make a note right now, so I don't forget about it because I absolutely want to cover this story. Welcome, John, new listener. Appreciate you, and appreciate you, contribute.
Starting point is 00:41:10 meeting here with this recommendation. All right, Paris Hilton and the Bling Ring are happening over in the Hollywoodland feed this week. Zeth and I in the rap party are recommending music and movies that are heist based, obviously, because of this whole bling ring saga. Matt, give him a little clip of our conversation. And guys, if you're not subscribed to Hollywoodland, make sure you are, here's what you're missing. I went back to my youth here. And I try to do this as subjectively as possible rather than sort of objectively as like a music historian or an academic. And I went back to 1988, 89, when I first heard the self-titled debut by Glenn Danzig, the album Danzig. And there's this song on that album called The Hunter. And it has this lyric, they call me The Hunter,
Starting point is 00:41:59 that's my name. Pretty Young Thing Like You, It's My Only Game. And the Melody, here for the song immediately struck me as as a young kid now a young kid not some dude who's like steeped in 40 years of music history right like a 14 15 16 year old however i was when i first heard it yeah and going like wait a minute i know this song what is this song and i look to the danzig liner notes and it's written by glen danzig and i'm like this is not written by glen danzig what is this song. And turns out it's how many more times by Led Zeppelin. You know, do do do do do do how many more times? And then it breaks down. Yeah, exactly. And then Robert Plant goes into that vocal riff, well, it's hard to be the hunter, you know? No shit. And Danzig
Starting point is 00:42:53 lifted the exact, almost the exact same thing. Well, Robert Plant probably lifted it from some old blues man. Well, hold on. It gets better. So I'm like, oh, damn, they stole this from, he stole this from Led Zeppelin and he didn't, credit them. What balls? So then, like, I don't know, 10 years later or whatever, you know, I'm a little more curious. I'm a little more well read. Of course, now, of course, we could talk for days about Led Zeppelin stealing music from what
Starting point is 00:43:27 what people would call obscure blues musicians. Some of them aren't obscure at all, but that's just sort of the rap, you know what I mean? Yeah. The search engine rap. And stairway to heaven being the most, it's not a blues musician where they borrow from, but the most famous of these sort of indictments of Led Zeppelin.
Starting point is 00:43:46 But this one in particular is particularly egregious because Led Zeppelin stole that, the hunter, that riff inside how many more times. They stole those, that melody. and the riff on the lyrics from an Albert King song. All right, guys, subscribe to Hollywood Land on Apple Podcasts, IHeart Radio out wherever you get your podcast. We're about to get into this exclusive behind-the-scenes conversation here
Starting point is 00:44:11 of some of the stupidest things, stupid rockstar tricks, I think is what I'm calling this, the dumbest things that musicians have done. And this is coming off the heels of the criminal mastermind, alleged criminal mastermind David and the ongoing saga that's unfolding out in the LA courtrooms right now. So if you want in on that conversation, disgracelam pod.com to sign up, become a disgrace land all access member today.
Starting point is 00:44:40 All right, guys, welcome back in. This week we talked about a ton of artists, obviously, because of our Mount Rushmore conversation. We've got a Van Halen episode. I was hot on the cramps, poison ivy. Check out that cramps episode if you haven't already. ACDC. Jimmy Andrix, all kinds of stuff. Matt will have the episode information in the show notes section of this here after party. Let's recap. Number one, this week, Stevie Ray Vaughn. So new episodes available for you right now. Number two, our rewind episode on Ariana Grande. That's coming for you on Sunday. Number three, next week, our brand new episode on Christina Grimmie. Number four, Zest's going to give you those Hollywood and crime vibes in Hollywoodland. So make sure you're subscribed. And I'm going to give you my music wrecks in the rap party. Number five, this film should be played loud. Our video podcast episode,
Starting point is 00:45:38 on High Fidelity. That's the latest one. We've got a new one coming on the Royal Tenenbaum's and the music of that film that'll be coming soon. Make sure you are an all-access member to get that content. 617-90666-6-638. Guys, your voice keeps us digging into the dark corners of music history. So keep calling, keep texting with your answers to this week's question of the week or with whatever else you want to talk about. Number seven, do not forget discos. This isn't just content. It's a community, a community of the obsessed and no one cares about music, books, records, and the crime and grime. It ties them all together like you do. And well, that's a disgrace. All right. Steve Ray Vaughn died back on August 27th, 1990. And this is what America was listening to
Starting point is 00:46:17 on that day, according to the Billboard charts. Number one, vision of love, Mariah Carey. Last week, one. Peak position, one. Weeks on chart, 13. Number two, come back to me, Janet Jackson. Last week, two. Peak position, two. Weeks on chart. 9. Number three, if wishes came true, sweet sensation. Last week, three, peak position, three, weeks on churn, 11. Number four, unskinny, spot, poison. Last week, five, peak position, four, weeks on churn, eight. Number five, blaze of glory.
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Starting point is 00:48:43 They had a bogo. Well, then you got them. Listen to soccer moms on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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