DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode: Sixes and Sevens and Nines

Episode Date: September 5, 2024

This week in the After Party, Jake talks about gambling and its role in his family. Plus, listeners weigh in on disgraceful athletes, Lana Del Rey songs, and Courtney Love. As we prepare for next week's episode on River Phoenix, we want to know: Who is the greatest actor of that most glorious decade, the 1990s? Why? What Leonardo DiCaprio roles would've gone to River Phoenix had he lived? Let Jake know at 617-906-6638, [e-mail], or on socials @disgracelandpod.For more great Disgraceland episodes, dive into our extensive archive, including such episodes as:Episode 36 - The Rolling Stones: Fugitives in ExileEpisode 40 - Motown RecordsEpisodes 25 and 26 - Kurt Cobain and Courtney LoveEpisode 171 - Public EnemyEpisode 59 - PrinceTo hear an extended version of the After Party and to hear more from the DISGRACELAND community, become a Disgraceland All Access member at disgracelandpod.com/membership.Visit www.disgracelandpod.com/merch to see the latest Disgraceland merch!Sign up for our newsletter and get the inside dirt on events, merch and other awesomeness - GET THE NEWSLETTERFollow Jake and DISGRACELAND:InstagramYouTubeX (formerly Twitter) Facebook Fan Group To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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On this episode, we are talking about this week's subject to the disgrace land full episode, the National Football League and its criminal origins, the Rolling Stones, Tumbling Dice, Motown, Motorhead, the Libertines, and of course, we are diving. into your voicemails, texts, and more. And as always, a whole lot of rosy. All right, discos, let's get into it. I'm all sixes and sevens and nines. I always love that line from the Rolling Stone song, Tumbling Dice. I never quite knew what it meant for sure. I always interpreted it to mean that the protagonist in the song was frustrated, frustrated with his dice game, with the roll of the dice, whatever, frustrated with his woman, whatever it was, just he was frustrated. He was up against it, perhaps up against it with whomever he was wagering with. Gambling is, of course, at the core of this week's full episode on the NFL and the league's gambling origins. And there

are quite a few characters from this episode that we just released that wind up rolling sixes and sevens and nines figuratively. They end up against it and they end up murdered because of the risk that they took. Now, I've never been much of a risk taker when it comes to betting. I've never been much of a gambler, not by my family's standards anyway. I come from gamblers, football, college football, college basketball, cards, the lottery, the daily number, scratch tickets, hell, even bingo. My family gambles a lot, and they always have. I'm the black sheep in this regard in almost all other regards as well, but that's a separate issue.

I do bet, but just not as much as they do or with as much intensity or interest or risk. I bet football every week during the season. Usually just the pick six football cards. Of course, it's more fun that way. Not sure about the statute of limitations, but even with the advent of legal sports betting apps, my brother-in-law and I found someone to take our action on a couple of recent Super Bowls, but that's just between you and I. Even with the betting that I do, that I just laid out for you, it's nothing compared to how my family bets. Like I said, my relationship with gambling is not what my family's relationship with gambling is. Not that their relationship with it is wrong in any way. It's clearly not. Mine is just different.

Now, going back some years, my stepfather, my grandfather, not my stepfather's father, but my father's stepfather, if that makes sense. Growing up, they were both, in addition to gamblers, they were both pretty serious alcoholics. They both drank a lot. My stepfather has been sober for 30-something years now. My grandfather has passed. But the point is, they were always drinking. I swear, I didn't know driving with an open bottle of Budweiser was illegal until I turned about 12 years old because I'd just seen it done so many damn times before. These guys drank a shit ton and sometimes together, even though like I said, it was my stepfather drinking with my grandfather who was my father's stepfather. Makes sense yet? I feel like the more I say it, the more it makes sense to you.

Their drinking was, of course, a problem for my mother and for my grandmother who understandably had to put up with other bullshit. Again, they drank all the fucking time. But the only time they didn't drink was when they played cards. These epic games, high rolling games, I presume, thus the sobriety. Games were they and a handful of other degenerate gamblers would lock themselves away in a motel or someone's apartment or garage or God knows where for about two or three days in nights straight and gamble. And again, not drink, which was just astounding to me.

How the hell can you be such a pain in the ass drunk and piss off my mom and grandmother so much with your drinking, refusing to stop, by the way. And then the only time you do stop is when you want to gamble. Even at a young age, this seemed like a wild misplacement of priorities. Now, I hold no ill will. I love my grandfather and I love my stepfather. He doesn't drink anymore, but he still gambles. And I'm telling you this story, not to bitch and moan, but to illustrate how gambling is woven into my family dynamic, gambling on football specifically. My entire family is part of a season-long pool where the wins calculated from our football cards that we bet each each week results in a pretty big big payout to one of us at the end of the year my aunt poppy i'm pretty sure puts more time into

studying point spreads during the football season than i do researching disgrace land topics and i'm not even joking in 2020 when the kansas city cheese beat the san francisco 49ers in the super bowl i not only won the year-end football card pool that i was just talking about i won the super bowl pool as well uh I also won my bet on the game itself, pretty sure I took the Niners with the points and the chiefs didn't cover. And also, I won our fantasy football league that year that my family participates in. And man, did I feel like an asshole in taking all that money from my family members? It was quite a haul when all of a sudden done and I ended up donating it to charity just to feel like less of an asshole. I don't have the gambler's gene, or maybe I do when I just suppress it.

I think that because of my family, I'm subconsciously afraid that I'm going to like gambling too much and gamble my mortgage payments away. At an early age, I saw gambling take hold of people. By the time I was 10 or 11, I was calling him bets for my stepfather to bookies. Why? I can only assume because my stepfather owed money, it was afraid if he called, he wouldn't get his bet in. I can't confirm that that was the case, but that's just my suspicion. I should probably ask him. I think he's going to listen to this episode.

Maybe he'll tell me. Gambling is, of course, all about risk. And as fun as it is for me and my family, it's not really about the risk for me. It's about socializing. It's about having something to connect us beyond just the games on Sunday. And Lord help the New England Patriots this year with this team. We're going to need betting more than ever to keep things interesting. But back to the risk.

In most other aspects in life, I value risk. I am attracted to risk. As someone who owns his own business, there's a certain level of risk involved. And as scary as things sometimes become, this kind of risk. thrills me. As a writer, as an artist, there is also a certain amount of risk that one must take. If you're going to be any good anyway, if you're going to have a voice, and if you strive for an original point of view, if you want to leave something behind that outlives you, the only way to do that is to take chances creatively, to try to create something net new, to try and express a

novel idea. There's a risk in that. If you fail, you can sometimes look like an asshole or worse, you can look derivative. Taking a chance on making something new is a risk. difficult. It's easy to do something that's been done before, okay? You know what's hard? Writing tumbling dice. Coming up with a lyric like, I'm all sixes and sevens and nines like Mick Jagger did. A lyric that at face value makes little sense at all, but a lyric that Mick Jagger knew would make sense to the record buying public. Perhaps because it made sense to his heroin zonked out guitar player Keith Richards, this gave Mick the confidence he needed to take the creative risk. Who knows? Whatever the case, it was one of many risks Mick and Keith took on that album.

Tumbling Dice might be the greatest rock and roll record ever. The Rolling Stones Exile on Main Street. A record that was made on the run from tax authorities, the Stones, the biggest rock band on the planet at the time, exiled in a foreign country, making a record while trying to avoid a rest, risking it. That kind of risk I can relate to for some reason. Maybe it's ego, maybe it's pride. I don't know. but taking my hard-earned money,

not as my family has done, but as the larger-than-life characters from this week's episode on the NFL's mafia influence passed, like they did, and wagering it illegally on games, that they were also illegally trying to influence that level of risk,

that level of corruption solely for monetary gain, that does not appeal to me. But it makes for a great story, and I hope you check it out if you haven't already. That's all relative to, the most recent episode that we just did, the one I mentioned that I've been talking about, the NFL's corrupt origins, okay, it's just behind this episode in the feed. Next week's episode is on an entirely different subject, on River Phoenix. I believe we refer to him

in the episode as a once-in-a-lifetime talent, or once-in-a-generation talent, I should say. And I believe that. It's hard for me to think of another actor from the 90s, another young actor, who was as talented as River Phoenix. Maybe Leo, maybe Johnny Depp, but I don't know, River Phoenix was special. And it's fun to think about what roles he might have taken on as he grew into manhood. And I bet if River lived, Leonardo DiCaprio's career would probably look a lot different right now. But, but, but this is all for next week. So just when you're listening to the River Phoenix episode, be thinking of this question.

Who is the greatest actor of the 1990s? Sub question, what Leonardo DiCaprio roles do you think would have went to River Phoenix had he lived? call me and let me know 617-90666-66-6-36-3-8 leave me a voicemail, send me a text. You can also reach me at Disgraceland Pod as well on Instagram, X, and Facebook. Keep me with some answers, guys. I'm going to take a quick break and I'll be back on the other side with your answers to last week's question of the week. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl.

You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And Rule 2, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends... Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me?

The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When, like, young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever. My first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? Rather be disappointed in. Do that. Dennis Leary. I wake up and I'm hitting him in the head with a water bomb. And Bruce Jenner is on the aisle in a karate stance.

Like he's about to attack me. Like making karate noises. And his entire the Kardashian family over there, everybody's going. And the air marshal is trying to grab my arms and screaming. I immediately know that I've been a sleepwalk. David O'Yellowo. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religious. or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, guys, we are back with your phone calls and your texts on this week's question of the week, on the most despicable athlete you can come up with. Of course, we bring this up in reference to this week's episode on the NFL and all the transgressions and all the nasty little bits and all the dirty little secrets and all the unexplained deaths and the murders

and all the stuff that went down in this episode. We wanted to hear, I asked you guys, from your estimation, who are the most disgraceful athletes in the history of sports? Let's check in with Kathy in the 971. Hi, Jake. This is Kathy from Portland, Oregon. And I have to say the all-time worst, most despicable athlete, not just NFL, but all-time worse.

It has to be the Atlanta Falcons Michael Vick from his 2007 dog-fighting case. Hands down, the absolute worst. So just my opinion, looking forward to the episode, and I'll talk to you later. Bye. Kathy, love the voicemail. Thanks for getting in touch. Yes, I hear you on Michael Vick for sure. You know, for me, you know, we do mention Michael Vick in the past episode on the NFL.

But for me, and that's horrible. You know, I'm very familiar with the Michael Vick case. I don't even like thinking about it. It's so bad. There's something about the torture of animals that I just, no one wants to put their head into. But for me, if I'm having to pull one sports star from the history of sports to me, and perhaps it's because of where I'm from, for me, it's Aaron Hernandez. There was something just so chilling about that story when it was happening, when it was unfolding in real time, when we were getting all of those details. And at first it was the murder of Odin Lloyd.

and then we learned there were more murders in the cold-blooded nature of this guy, the way that he seemed to just unravel into complete psychopathy. Is that a word, psychopathy? It sounded smart coming out of my mouth. We're just going to go with it. Really freaked me the fuck out.

I got to say, it really freaked me out. And to me, there's something just, like I said, is just chilling about that story. You know, we could say OJ Simpson as well, but I'm putting OJ's side. It's just almost too big of a story. It's too big to even be a sports story. It's a cultural phenomenon on that OJ Simpson story.

On the same subject, the 469 text in, Hey, Jake, if you want something different for your disgrace sports figure, check out this dude, Robert Rozier. I don't know how to pronounce that. Rozier. I know this story. It's wild. We're going to bring it to you in disgrace land,

so I'm not going to burn it here. But 469, I like the way. you're thinking. All right, let's check out this voicemail from Tony in the 206. Jake, what's going on? It's Tony from the 206. Let me tell you something, brother. I damn near spit my, actually didn't damn near. I spit my drink out, laughing so hard, listening to Lana Del Rey episode

when you abruptly stopped the episode and we're like, I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it. I've never laughed so hard in my life. I'm still laughing now. Anyway, hey, question, do you have a go-to? Lana Del Rey's song and they just put you in a mood. For me, it's summertime sadness. I like to listen to that song around fall time.

Like the minute I see an overcast day in September, October, and I see leaves turn it on the ground, I throw that song on, and I will sit on my couch with a cup of hot cocoa or a cup of coffee or tea and just play it. And then the other song of hers that I really love is Venice, Bitch. That's the song I put in my noise cancellation headphones. I lay on my couch and I just let the song just take me to another place. So do you have a song by Lana Del Rey that's like that? Or do you have a song that, you know, that just, you know, you have to put on because it puts you in the right move for the season?

Let me know. Thanks. Thanks. Tony, happy to hear you approved of how I treated the Catherine the great sex with the horse bit, that old chestnut. Lada Del Rey go-to song for me is definitely West Coast. It's the first song that brought me into the Lana Del Rey world, and it is still the sort of go-to from her catalog that I go back to. It's just got a vibe.

It just feels right. But if I'm picking sort of any song that I want to vibe out to, that I want to put my noise-canceling headphones on to just kind of like kick back and chill out to, it is Keith Jarrett, and the song is The Rich and the Poor. Keith Jarrett is an improvisational jazz artist. That might turn you off, but I'm telling you, This song, end of a hard day. You got a glass of something wet and brown with a nice cube in it,

and you just want to sit back and chill and feel like, I don't know, you're in a 70s cop show or something. Keith Jarrett, the rich and the poor. Check that out. All right, the 714, Terry writes in, Hey, Jake Terry from the 714, I love three heart emojis, your podcast, curious about the after party. There's a voice that sounds familiar.

When I hear it, I am certain that it's him. The first voice says, quit, talk. and start mixing. And then the next voice says, got it. Whose voice is that? Am I correct in thinking this is Tom Petty? Huh? It's not. It's not Tom Petty. Terry, I'm answering you and I'm reading your text because you seem very interested in this subject. You sent me two texts on this subject. I wish it was Tom Petty. You know, it might be Tom Petty. I don't know. I can't say for certain that it's not Tom Petty. But I'm pretty, pretty sure that it's not Tom Petty. Anyhow, there you go. 401, writes in, loved the replacements episode.

Such a great band. Was lucky enough to see them in 86 in Providence at the living room. They were a mess in the most rock and roll way. Saw them again. In 2015 at Boston Calling when Dave Minnehan from the neighborhoods was playing with them. Speaking of Dave, one of the greatest shows I ever attended was the neighborhoods and the figs at the Met. Blown away. Two great bands on the same bill.

Top 10 show of all time. Love disgrace, Land. Keep them coming. Man, that text got me excited. Okay. Lots to unpack here. first of all, stoked 401 that you dug the Replacements episode. For those of you who are like, wait, what replacement's episode?

Well, the Replacements episode is an all-access episode. We do one full episode per month for our all-access crew. It's five bucks a month. You also get ad-free listening, and you also get a little more after-party as well. Okay, so check that out. You can go to disgracelandpod.com. Membership. Back to the text here.

Love the Replacements episode. Such a great band. Was lucky enough to see them in 86 in Providence. That sounds like peak era to see the replacements, my friend. You are a lucky muckety-muck. They were a mess in the most rock and roll way. I love that. I know exactly what you mean by this sentence.

You then go out to say that you saw them in 2015 at Boston Calling with Dave Minahan. Dave Minahan, of course, from the legendary Boston band, The Neighborhoods. I've seen Dave play before. He is a fucking juggernaut. He has just incredible stage presence. He is perfectly matched to play with the Remaverns. placements. Fantastic, fantastic guy to watch play guitar on stage. He's a great producer as well. Speaking to Dave, one of the greatest shows I ever attended was The Neighborhoods in the Figs.

You guys know how I feel about the figs. One of the greatest rock and roll bands of all time. There, I said it. Great text. Keep him coming. Stoked you dug it 401. Appreciate the text. Let's go to the 971 who writes, hi. Been listening for a few years. But this week's question actually got me to interact. As a female punk performer, you'd best believe I have strong opinions on how women are viewed and treated by the media. Punks hold likely murderer Sid vicious up like he's a god while taking every opportunity to knock down Courtney Love, who I'm pretty sure had not shit to do with Kurt's death. Okay, I'm going to stop reading the text right here, just respond to that bit. Great point. Fantastic point. Sid had a lot of problems and to lionize a guy like that

is, you know, is pretty hypocritical when you put it up against the Courtney Love, Kurt Cobain. Dilemma, Kurt Cobain. I pronounce it Cobain. People give me a lot of shit. I don't care. That's how I've always done it. I'm not changing. When I released the episodes that we produced on Courtney Love and Kurt, I got a lot of shit,

and I mean a lot more than usual. I get a healthy amount of shit, but I got a lot of shit from people for not condemning Courtney as the murderer. In my episodes, I went so far as to, in a way I defended Cortney. Courtney Love. I mean, I held her accountable for a lot of her bullshit, but I thought it was an honest, honest depiction. And people didn't want to hear anything that wasn't a complete and total tear down. And I think it's just peak conspiracy. If I thought otherwise, guys, I would say so. Okay. I have no dog in this hunt. In fact, it would be a better story. It would be better for me

personally as a creator to come out on the side of, yeah, Courtney Love killed Kirk Cobain. But I don't think that. See, I did it. I said Cobain. It's Cobain. Okay, so then your text goes on to say, yeah, junkies murdering the cash cow and hiring one of the pug's most notorious liars to do it. It's the same treatment given to Yoko Odo. This one is a little more, the Yoko question is a little bit harder to get at because, I don't know. It's tough to debate. It's tough to debate. Okay, God forbid, Texas goes on, God forbid John wanted to move on to more creative endeavors.

People hate the women who are lucky enough to be part of a legend's life out of jealousy and with a little homophobia thrown in. I'm not sure I get that part of it. Sharon Osborne is another example. Who hates Sharon Osborne? Okay, now I'm not agreeing with this text. I love Sharon Osborne. Don't people love Sharon Osborne? On another note, have you ever met a female sound person?

That's a good question. I don't know that I have. Although I'm certain I must have at some point, but I should remember, but I don't. Text goes on to say, I've been before me most of my life and I've been fronting a band since 2008 and I've never encountered a woman running sound at any of the shows I've played. Is this something anyone else has noticed? Great question. also i would love for you to do an episode on just courtney her youth is fascinating it is and i got into

it a little bit in that episode that you're that i was just referencing uh the bit about her dad and the grateful dead and uh i think there's yeah oslie the bear the whole thing uh l7 would be fun kathleen hannah would be another good person to do an episode on and oh me is a potta the gits i was literally just thinking about this last night doing finally doing an episode on the gets she was murdered it went unsolved for almost 20 years i think it was she's a huge inspiration Kendra of Contagious. Guys, we're going to Spotify after this and we are typing in Contagious and we're going to check out Kendra's band.

Okay, great text, Kendra. Appreciate it. Lots to ponder there. I feel like I answered a bunch of it while I was reading. If I forgot anything, hit me back. 617-90666-6638. You can also call me and leave me a voicemail. Same number, 6179066638.

And you can hit me up on Instagram X and Facebook at Disgraceland Pod. You can also hit me up on Spotify. Just go to the Spotify Discraceland page, and you can comment on any of the episodes there. That's it. Just go to disgrace land on Spotify. Get this message from a very confused user, D. Quinlan 777, commenting on the Garth Brooks episode we did,

saying trying to rip off YMH is crazy. He's talking about Quinlan here, I assume as a guy, is talking about your mom's house. And Tom Segura, it's a podcast hosted by Tom and his wife, Christina. This is in reference to the episode, like I just mentioned that we did on Garth Brooks. We were not ripping off your mom's house in any way. D. Quinlan 777. I doubt very much that you even listened to the episode that you're commenting on.

In fact, we mentioned Tom in the episode numerous times. We actually went out of our way to let Tom know that we were doing this episode before we even released it. When it came out, Tom shared the reel that we did. promoting the episode on Instagram. So D. Quinlan 777, I tell you this not to call you out. I tell it to you to just, you know, correct the record here and to point you in the right direction. I encourage that you actually listen to the podcast. And if you still think that we're ripping it off, then you can send the drugs that you're taking to disgrace land. No, I'm just kidding. De Quillan, I hope we end up on the same page here. So yeah, you guys can comment on Spotify.

Guys, most of you aren't listening on Spotify. I look at the number. Most of you are listening on Apple Podcasts, most of you are listening on IHeart Radio app, and a small portion of you are listening on Spotify. I don't understand why there's not more of you listening on Spotify. But, you know, get over there and listen on Spotify. If you're there, cruising around already, you know, I'm not trying to get you to bail on any other apps. Speaking of apps, over on Facebook, Shea Holst writes to us, hey, Lana, diehard here. I'll share this with my sad core girlies. This is Shea writing in about, the Lana Del Rey episode, who then wrote back very quickly about a couple hours later. Hey,

Bravo, Jake, and Team, I actually got goosebumps when the theme song started. I take that as something pretty magical. Love that we're bringing in some Lana Del Rey fans here with our new Lana Del Rey episode from last week. Jeffrey L. Slater on Facebook writes in, hey, we need an episode on Johnny Ace. His life has all the requirements like a rough childhood abandoning his wife and children and a tragic death. I wrote back. He was shot, right? Or was it Russian roulette? Jeffrey corrected me. He said, hey, he said it wasn't loaded and stuck it to his head and pulled the trigger. Ouch. Johnny Ace might make for a good disgrace an episode at some time.

And I will be back in a flash with some of your emails on the other side. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of The Girlfriends... Oh my God, this is the same man.

A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves.

Listen to the Girlfriends. Trust me, babe. on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When, like, young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever. And my first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? Rather be disappointed in.

Do that. Dennis Leary. I wake up and I'm hitting him in the head with a water bomb. And Bruce Jenner is on the aisle in a karate stance, like he's about to attack me, like, making karate noises. And his entire, the Kardashian family over there, everybody's going, and the air marshal is trying to grab my arms and screaming. And I immediately know that I've been asleep walking.

David O'Yello-O. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Guy Branham. So anyway, Nicole Kidman broke up with Keith Thurban. Being half of a country couple was always a hat she was going to wear, not like a life she was going to lead. Oh, interesting. I like that.

Did you practice that on your way over? Gaten Matarazzo from Stranger Things. Tena Monsu. Camilla Morone at Carrie Kenny Silver. And more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Remember when you'd walk into your local video rental place and there were always those two employees behind the counter arguing about movies? Well, that's us.

I'm Millie de Cherico. And I'm Casey O'Brien. And now we're arguing about movies on our podcast, Dear Movies I Love You, from the Exactly Right Network. Can I say something about the Criterion closet? Go ahead, dude. They're letting too many people in there. Okay, that's another film grape I got to. Sadly, that rental place doesn't exist anymore.

It's probably a store that sells running shoes. Or an ice cream shop with an extra pee and an E at the end. So consider us your slacker movie clerks in podcast form. I would like to establish a timeline of the moment you figured out who Channing Tatum was. Every Tuesday, we dig into the movies we can't stop obsessing over it, from hidden gems to big screen favorites. New episodes drop every week on the exactly right network. Listen to Dear Movies I Love You on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. All right, guys, I am back. Disgracelampot at gmail.com.

Alex Stone writes in, hey, I've been listening to your podcast for several years, but your Motown episode was one of the best ever. Well, thanks, Alex. I appreciate that. Guys, Alex is referencing one of the many, many, many episodes that we have in our archive. Okay? We have almost 200 episodes at this point. And it's a little daunting for new listeners.

So we do this thing each week where we resurface one of the archive episodes up into the top of the feed. And I believe we did this with the Motown episode a couple months back, and that's what Alex is referencing. Guys, I want you guys to feel free to dive into that archive if you knew, okay, we have so much content. If you're new and you haven't heard these episodes, they are there, they are waiting for you. Magnus Tempty writes in, uh, hi, first of all, thanks for creating a great podcast. I might have overlooked something, and if so, my bad. But how come there is no episode on Motorhead and or Lemmy? I imagine there's enough material out there. Any chance you're working on this episode. Best regards, Magnus. Magnus, first of all, great name. Magnus,

just, I love that name. Second of all, we have a motor-ed-head episode. It came out a couple, a couple months ago maybe. Yeah, about two months ago. It's part of the All-access Club. It's an exclusive episode. You can hear that by becoming an All-access member. You do that. You're also going to get, like I said before, ad-free listening, and you're going to also get access to me on a daily basis in the chat with all the disgrace-line listeners, chopping it up, talking about stuff. We do a book club. It's fun. It's a good time.

But you get that one extra episode every month, and Motorhead was one of those episodes. And that's the only place you can get in the All Access Members Club. One of the things I get asked about by you guys, especially the new listeners, is how you can support the show. And I appreciate that so much. Listen, the best way you can support the show, in addition to becoming an All Access member,

is to review the show on Apple Podcasts and or Spotify. And, you know, we have this idea. If we're trying to drive people to the archive, new listeners, if we want to get them interested, we want to get them as engaged as the fellow discos out there. Listen, if you're going to leave a review for the show, how about in the review, you rattle off one or two of your favorite episodes in the actual review just to sort of like,

you'll peak the interests of potential new listeners out there. That might, I don't know, that might be a cool thing. You can do that. Guys, you leave a review also. We award some merchandise. We pick some reviewers at random. every week. And I read the reviews here. I read their names. And then you guys get in touch with me and I send you whatever we got lying around for merch, t-shirts, pins, stickers, whatever it is.

So I'm going to do that right now, actually. You're going to read some reviews from last week. And I'm going to read, I'm telling you, I read these reviews last night on Apple Podcasts in particular. And I was just kind of, I kind of got emotional. I'm not going to lie. So I'm going to read them all. They're very short. And then I'm going to award all of you guys who left these reviews with some free merch. Like I said, you got to get in touch though, okay? Hit me up, however, on the socials or emails, Good, disgraceland pod at gmail.com.

All right, this review just says, all the feels. This is from DACRAC 333. Dacrack 333. If you hear this, get in touch, all the feels. I've never listened to a podcast that has made me feel so much.

The storytelling is perfect. Content, timing, execution, perfection. Next review. Smart Dog, Doug, right? It's about the education. Most of us all live in an echo chamber of the things that we like and only those things. I like metal and grunge and country and rap.

They don't interest me. But disgrace land presents stories about artists and celebrities that are so engaging that I have to listen to them all. And in doing so, I have learned to appreciate the trials and tribulations of artists I had dismissed as unimportant to me. Give it a listen, and you too may just get educated and enlightened and force to broaden your view of the world.

Keep up the incredible work. That is from Smart Dog, Doug, get in touch, Smart Dog, and get some free merch. Kat Chine, K-A-S-S-E. Kachane, K-A-I-N-E, right? He said, hey, I never tire of listening to Jake tell all these stories. He knows how to tell them

and brings us in closer because we can't get enough. His team is amazing. The work they do is untouchable. He's the cool friend we talk to and we're the discos he loves to talk about. I tell everyone about this podcast and group as my friends

because they are rock a roller. Hey, that's fucking great. I really appreciate that. Thanks for your reviews, guys. They really help with the show. And I'm going to help you guys out by getting you some merch, you're just going to get in touch and let me know. And I believe there's still one of you outstanding from last week that I have not gotten back to,

but I will shortly and I will get you those items out in the mail. Now this episode is nearing its end, but the after party continues for all of our all-access members. Like I said, sign up today to hear the extended version of this after party to get that extra episode like that motorhead episode. Get that extra episode every month. And also add free listening. Disgracelandpod.com slash membership. become an All Access member today. There's two golden rules that any man should live by.

Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends, oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same proliferation. con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me?

The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests. Like Amelia Clark. When, like, young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever. And my first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? Rather be disappointed in.

Do that. Dennis Leary. I wake up and I'm hitting him in the head with a water bomb. And Bruce Jenner is on the aisle in a karate stance. Like he's about to attack me. Like, making karate noises. And his entire the Kardashian family over there, everybody's going, and the air marshal is trying to grab my arms and screaming.

I immediately know that I've been at sleepwalking. David O'Yellowo. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Guy Branham. So anyway, Nicole Kidman broke up with Keith Thurban. Being half of a country couple was always a hat she was going to wear, not like a life she was going to lead. Oh, interesting. I like that. Did you practice that on your way over?

Gaten Matarazzo from Stranger Things. Tana Monsu. Camilla Morone, Carrie Kenny Silver, and more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Kate Winkler Dawson, host of the Wicked Words podcast. Each week I sit down with the true crime writers behind some of the most compelling true crime stories and discuss their years spent investigating and why it still matters. He sees his father coming out of the woods with his hands over his face, and he knows something happened.

His father just grabs him and says she's gone. She's gone. These are the cases that leave survivors, families, and the journalists who cover them changed forever. Working in national television, it'll push you to your limits, and you'll end up doing things you never thought you'd do. you know, you look back at it and you're like, I can't believe that really happened. Join me and step inside the investigation.

New episodes drop every Monday on the exactly right network. Listen to wicked words on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right. I am back. And before we wrap it up, though, I'm going to ask, did you guys get Oasis tickets? I did not. I talked a big game on Instagram. But in the end, I didn't do it.

You know, speaking of risk, right? I decided not to risk the bread on not just the tickets, but the international travel for me and my family, because there was no way I was going to see Oasis without my wife. And there was no way that my wife and I were going to see Oasis without my sons. They would have freaked out. So given the high rate of volatility around the Gallagher brothers relationship, it didn't seem like a safe bet. But it does seem like there's definitely maybe going to be U.S. States, see what I did there. and I figure that if they make it through the UK dates,

there's a safe bet that they're going to actually make it to the states. And that's a risk that I'm more comfortable with taking because I don't have to pay for the international travel. So that's where I'm at, but I'm curious if you guys got your OASIS tickets and if so, which shows you're going to. All right, I'm about to get out of here before I do. It'll be a rewind episode popping up in the archive for you guys. Speaking of archives, we mentioned the Rolling Stones.

Again, this week, just like we did last week. But this week, we talked about exile on Main Street, And we have an entire episode on Exile, entire episode on the Stones out on the run, camped out on the French Riviera, making probably the greatest rock and roll record of all time. That's episode 36, released on July 23rd, 2019 in the archive. Go check that out. I remember that episode fondly. I remember that episode. I remember the production and the mix of that episode. And I remember feeling like, wow, okay, we're on to something here that I'd never planned for us to be on. And it felt really good. And it was just sort of the heady kind of early days, the early creative days of disgrace land.

We were only about a year into it at that point. So I love that episode. I hope you guys do as well. If you're hearing it for the first time, if you're a new listener, you're hearing it for the first time, write to me and let me know what you think about it. And if you're, you know, OG disco and you're listening to it for a second time, you want to compare it to some of the new episodes. I'd love to hear you feedback on that as well.

Okay, we also talked about the Motown episode here in this after party. that Motown episode is episode number 40 was released originally on October 8th, 2019. We, of course, had that great text on Courtney Love. We have two episodes on Kurt Cobain and Courtney Love, episode one entitled No Direction Home. That was released on March 14th, 2019. That's episode 25. And episode two entitled Suicide Samurai. That's episode 26, released on March 19th, 2019, a week later.

Over on Instagram this week, Chuck D, the mighty Chuck D of Public Enemy himself shared the artwork that Avi Spivik created for our Public Enemy episode. Our public enemy episode is number 171, released April 23rd, 2024. Also on Instagram, Apollonia. Apollonia herself, you know Apollonia. She liked our Prince Real, where we detailed the shredding solo that Prince laid down in front of Tom Petty in honor of George Harrison, which, that is detailed in a scene in our Prince episode. episode number 59, released on June 9th and the year of our daily beloved 2020.

Guys, the archive are your new listener. Get in there. All right. That brings us nearly to an end. So let's recap, shall we? Number one, right now on your feed, a brand new episode on the gangster origins of the NFL. Number two, coming tomorrow, a special rewind episode from our archive. And we are talking about River Phoenix in next week's episode.

So I want to know from you guys, who is the greatest actor of that glorious decade, the 1990s, and why. Number four, merch winners, get in touch. You know who you are. Number five, remember, no one cares about great storytelling more than you do. And well, that's a disgrace. All right, in honor of the subject of our most recent episode on the NFL, me reading to you, the Billboard charts from the day Joe Namath retired for the final time on December 18th, 977. Number one, you light up my life. Debbie Boone, last week, one, Peak position, one, weeks on chart, 16. Number two, how deep is your love, Bee Gees.

Last week, three, peak position, two, weeks on chart, 13. Number three, Blue Bayou, Linda Rodstadt. Last week, four, peak position, three, weeks on chart, 15. Number four, don't it make my brown eyes blue, crystal game. Last week, two, peak position, two, weeks on chart, 19. Number five, it's so easy. Under Rodstaff, last week, five, peak position, five, weeks on chart, 11, number six. And start mixing.

When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist, they take matters into their own hands. vowed, I will be his last target. He is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves. We always say that, trust your girlfriends. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When, like, young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever. And my first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? You'd rather be disappointed in. Do that. David O'Yelloo. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Dennis Leary, Gaten Moderato from Stranger Things.

Tana Monsu. Camilla Morone, Carrie Kenny Silver. And more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the On the Ones. IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Sometimes a suspect is found guilty before a verdict is ever read in court. On the Wicked Words podcast, I talk with the writers who dig deep into the cases that changed history, including Marsha Clark, who went from prosecuting one of the most famous murder cases to writing crime fiction.

It doesn't matter that you didn't take part in the murder. If you were at the scene at all, you're guilty of murder. Every week, the real story is revealed. Join us every Monday for new episodes of Wicked Words. Listen to Wicked Words on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.