DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode: Steve Earle's Mandolin, Model Punks, and 90s New York Movies

Episode Date: January 18, 2024

This week Jake talks the new DISGRACELAND episode on Serge Gainsbourg and this week's REWIND episode on Madonna, plus some personal stories and of course your correspondence. What's your favorite Serge Gainsbourg music? Favorite Madonna era? Get in touch at 617-906-6638, [e-mail], or on socials @disgracelandpod, and come join the After Party. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hey, guys, thanks for checking out this bonus episode. Before we get into it, I wanted to fill you in on all the great content we've got for you this week here in This Grace Land. We have a brand new episode on Serge Gainsburg over in the Badlands Feed. Check out a new episode on NBA star Lorenzen Wright. And that's on the Sportsland side of the Badlands Tracks. And over in the feed for our new show for kids and families, Music Land Stories. We have a brand new episode, Episode 6, that is ready for you to check out.

All right, let's get into it. Hey, Discos, need a little more disgrace land in your life? Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the After Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, a little thing we like to call the after party.

This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. On this episode, we are talking about, among other things, Serge Gainsburg, Madonna, and of course your voicemails, text,

DMs and more, and as always, a whole lot of rosy. All right, discos, let's get in. This week in disgrace land, come with me, come, come, come, come, as we travel over to Paris, France. In the late 1960s, when Serge Gainsburg, the Enfant-Telébi, is how do you say that? Tel-Abi, how did he say terrible in French? The bad guy, the bad, the bad boy of French pop, okay?

That's not what they called him. That's what I'm calling him here, because I'm kind of brain-dead right now. I've been writing all day and I can't think of anything clever to say about Serge Gainsburg. But Serge Gainsberg, a very clever dude on his own, okay? Serge Gainsberg, great songwriter, but, you know, a lot of controversy. Carried out a very illicit and very passionate love affair with Bridget Bardot, who at the time was the preeminent sex symbol in the world on the planet.

Together, Serge and Bridget made great fucking music, as we like to say. Some of the strangest music, too. It sounds like, still to this day, it sounds like it came from another galaxy. One of their duets, their classic duet, Bonnie and Clyde, amazing song. It's a song, of course, inspired by the infamous American outlaws back during the Great Depression, just like Serge and Bridget or Brigitte were outlaws decades later. What's really fun about this episode from our perspective is that we use this song, we use this duet from Serge Gainesburg and Bridget Bardot,

and their whole forbidden love affair to tell the story of the real life, Bonnie and Clyde. So it's kind of like you're getting two stories and one. It's kind of the same setup as we did the Derek and the Domino's Eric Clapton episode. This one, though, it's got a lot more in it, if I'm being honest.

Romance, lust, true crime, notorious outlaws, doomed lovers. You don't have to be a fan of Serge Gainsburg to get into this episode, but you will be a fan of Serge Gainsburg afterward if you give his music a shot, If you've never heard of him, if you're like, who the hell is this guy? I don't give a shit about French pop stars, French crooners.

Doesn't matter. You're going to get into this guy, hugely influential on American music as well, especially American indie music, alternative music. If you like Beck, Beck was massively influenced by Serge Gainsberg, particularly the great Beck record, C-Change. That record is just very, very directly influenced by Serge Gainsberg's album, history day melody Nelson you listen to both these records

back to back and you can really hear what I'm talking about so if you've never heard Serge Gainsberg like I said check them out and let me know what you think 617 906 6666636338 if you have heard surge Gainsberg hit me up 617 906666638 and let me know what your favorite

surge music is there's a lot of different phases the early stuff is much different than the mid period stuff which is much different from the later stuff he had a long long long career and you know if you just want to me know what you thought of this episode creatively the swing we took at it how we went at it get at me okay 617 90666 668 let's talk about it the surge gainsberg episode it marks the start of our new episodes for 2024 uh we've got a bunch of new stuff coming your way over the coming month lots from the from the

world of music and then after that in february we're going to start to broaden our scope here in the disgrace land feed like we've been discussing i'll have more on that soon but before that before that before all that tomorrow we've got to rewind what we're calling our rewind release from our archive on madonna just to put it in your head what we're doing here if you're looking at the feed and i know there's been a lot of turmoil over the feed in the last year i think what's going to happen this year the way we're going to roll it out every week tuesday's full episode thursdays bonus episode like we're doing we're going to keep doing on fridays these rewind episodes we're going to keep bringing back episodes from the archive because here's what's happening not only are there a lot of new

who have no idea what's in the archive. I'm talking to some of you guys on Instagram, some of you guys on X, and it's dawning on me that even newer, new-ish listeners, like from the last year, who didn't start with us way, way, way back in the beginning

like a lot of you guys did, you're asking me for episodes that we've already produced. People are asking me for Guns and Roses episode, Johnny Cash episode. I can't remember what the last one I did. And I'm like, hey, we did that. It's there. It's available. It's ready for you.

So I think we're going to start, you know, we're going to continue, I should say, releasing these archive, rewind episodes on Fridays, bubbling them back up in your feed. So you got them there. If you heard them before, you can re-listen to them. Okay, this isn't a chat podcast. Obviously, this is a scripted, heavily sound designed and dramatic type of show. So you can relisten to these. But that's not the point. We're just trying to get the folks who are new or new-ish to hear all the 130-plus full episodes that we've created. So many. And I realized over the last couple weeks I've got to do a better job of resurfacing those

so that I can bring everybody back into the archive. So that's what we'll be doing. Tuesday's full episodes, Thursdays, bonus episodes, Fridays. We're going to stay on this rewind episode train. All right?

There you go. This Friday, Madonna, one of my favorite artists of all time. That's right. I said it, Madonna, okay? Love her. Love her. When I say her,

I'm talking about 80s, 90s, Madonna. Okay? I didn't go, you know, 2000s, I was out. I was out, and I'm kind of out now, I guess. But for a period of time, Madonna, like most young men my age at the time, captivated my imagination, I should say. We'll leave it at that. Borderline, too.

One of my favorite songs. You guys know this. 617-906-66-36-38. Your favorite era Madonna, let me know. Your favorite Madonna tune, your favorite Madonna video, let me know, okay? I want to hear it. I want to hear it from you guys. Quick story on Madonna.

I don't know if this is true. I like to believe it's true. It was told to me by multiple people. I'm sure there are some of you out there from the hardcore scene who are going to hear this story and you're going to be able to verify it for me or tell me that I'm totally wrong and that I got it wrong.

Here's a deal. There was a hardcore band called Ignite. Still is, I believe. I think they still might even play. Southern California. And my band, Castaer and Hike toured with these guys. They were notorious, notorious band. We were worn up and down before we went on tour with them.

of how to deal with these guys. They were older than us. They were nastier than us. They were crazier than us. And those warnings, they were, they came with good reason. They were well-intended. Ignite were everything offstage that we were told they were. A bunch of good guys as well.

But one of the guys, the guitar player, his name escapes me at the moment. And this is a long, long time ago. Really good-looking dude. And he did some modeling. And the rumor on him was that he was in a mother. Madonna video. And this is the story I got from, I believe, from him firsthand. And again, a lot of you from the hardcore scene are going to know this story. So let me know. Apparently, he goes into audition for this Madonna video as a backup of like a dancer. And I can't remember. I think it was the express yourself video. I could be wrong. But something in that era. So he goes in with his buddy. And of course, everyone's going in and they're all like, you know, they're all doing dance moves and these choreographed things that they've worked up to kind of impress Madonna. And this guy goes in there with his buddy and there are these two hardcore kids. but they're good looking, you know? And they just like take their shirts off

and start fucking slam dancing in front of Madonna in the audition and of course got the audition and they're in the video. I thought that was very cool. If anyone knows that they can fill in the gaps there for the story, hit me up. Anyone knows who I'm talking about.

Hit him up. It's been a long time. And, you know, just thought I'd share that. That's my Madonna story. It's not even mine. It's somebody else's, but I thought you might like that. All right, we'll be back in a minute.

Going to answer some emails. Going to answer some voicemails. Going to answer some text. Can't wait to talk to you. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either.

We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends, Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands.

I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler,

we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When, like, young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever. And my first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? Rather be disappointed in. Do that. Dennis Leary. I wake up and I'm hitting him in the head with a water bomb. And Bruce Jenner is on the aisle in a karate stance.

Like he's about to attack me. Like, making karate noises. And his entire, the Kardashians family over there, everybody's going. And the airman. March is trying to grab my arms and screaming. And I immediately know that I've been at sleepwalk. David O'Yello. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships

or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Guy Branham. So anyway, Nicole Kidman broke up with Keith Thurban. Being half of a country couple was always a hat she was going to wear, not like a life she was going to lead. Oh, interesting. I like that. Did you practice that on your way over?

Gaten Madarazzo from Stranger Things. Tena Monsu. Camilla Marone at Carrie Kenny Silver. And more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right.

We are back. Let's talk. Got this email here. You guys, you can email me, disgracelandpod at gmail.com. This one comes from Marku Lenkamaki. If I'm saying that wrong, Marku, if I'm pronouncing your name wrong,

I apologize. apologize. Marku goes on to write, Hey, Jake, I've been a big fan of your podcast for a few years now, and I've listened to every episode. I'd like to hear an episode on country outlaw, Steve Earle. He's lived a hard life, been to prison, and even been compared to Hanoi Jane. I also have a TV show and movie's a movie show and movie's called From, and it's on Paramount. And the movie is the older one called Frailty with Bill Paxton and Matthew McConaughey. Keep up the great work, Marku. Marku. So, check it out. I'm definitely doing a Steve Earle episode at some point. I love Steve Earl. I was listening to him the other day as a matter of fact, Harlem River Blues. I was also listening to I Feel All Right, which is from the, uh, the mid-90s, early 90s. Guitar Town, Steve Earl's first record is a perfect record in my estimation, even with the production that I don't love. That's how good the songs are that I think, I still think the album's perfect. How can it be perfect if I'm criticizing the production? I don't know. I just feel like saying that. Sounds like I know what I'm talking.

about I really don't know. I'm full of shit just like everyone else. But I love Steve Earle. And I've met Steve Earle a couple different times. And I'm in a storytelling mood, as you can tell from the Ignite story early on. So I'll tell you this story. Steve Earl was one of my favorite singer-songwriters when I was making music. He was the model for the record that I was trying to make with my band The Confidence Men at one point in time. Guitar Town, like I said, was the model, I should say, not Steve Earl. And Steve and I, Steve had a fellow that he worked with when he got out of prison named Jack Emerson, who started a record label called E-squared, who I started working with as well, not on E-squared, on an imprint of Warner Brothers at the time that Jack had started called Jack of

Hearts. So very unfortunately, Mr. Jack Emerson died. He died young while we were in the process of working with each other. And of course, I went down to Nashville and I played at his going away party for lack of a better word his memorial was at this club the exit in uh Steve Earl Jason and the scorchers John Hyatt Billy Joe Shaver all these artists who Jack had worked with were playing and me and uh it felt a lot like like being at a somebody else's high school reunion but I got up there and I played and uh had a lot of fun I think I did a great job if I do say so myself but I met Steve Earl that night for the first time. And I do remember Warren from Jason and the scorchers

being very, very kind to me and making sure that I felt all right, pun intended, backstage, without knowing many people there. And yeah, I don't know, that memory just came to me. Second time I met Steve Earl, however, was backstage at Carnegie Hall. And I was there for David Burns' birthday. And he lost, Steve Earl, had lost his mandolin. And I found it for him. And I gave it to him and I made him smile and I didn't say anything I wasn't like hey man big fan nothing just you know did the guy solid went on my way those are my Steve Earl stories but I love Steve Earl and I you know frankly I don't know much about those sort of lost prison guns and roses years but I'm going to get into it all right great email appreciate it I'll shut up for a minute let's hear what you guys

have to say okay this one comes from Sharon Rojoech uh not sure how to pronounce your last name sharing but I appreciate your email email says hey jake Terry Kath founding member of the Chicago Transit Authority aka Chicago groundbreaking rock jazz fusion band from the early 70s still present Terry was suicidal on drugs and said if he didn't get off the stuff it would kill him and he had a gun collection and one day while playing with his pistol supposedly unloaded spun the barrel put it not going to go on but needless to say looks like there might be a Chicago episode coming your way soon. Great suggestion. Appreciate that. Todd Heath writes in, hey, if you're going to consider making episodes on wrestlers, you should do one on Chris Benoit. He was a great wrestler who also

murdered his wife and son. Brutal. Yeah, perhaps we will get into that. Dark, dark. I know we deal in the darkness, but today, you know what? It's just, I don't feel the darkness. The sun is shining. It's beautiful out. The darkness is hitting me a little harder today for some reason. Let's do some voicemails and text from you guys. How about that? All right, let's check out this voicemail from the 540. All right, 540, Jack Dempsey. I hear you.

I hear you loud and clear. We'll look into it. All right, let's check out this voicemail from the 904. Hey, Jake, what's up? This is Barry from the 904. Interesting to hear your take on David Allen Coe and many personalities and lives of. And the upcoming season, just listen to the, after party.

William F. Burroughs. All that shit sounds good to me, man. Just keep it up. No matter what you call it, a disgrace. Thanks, dude. David Allen Coe. You know, this has been requested

since way, way, way, way, way back. And I don't know. I've mixed feelings about it because I don't even know how to talk about it. I don't know much about David Allen Coe, but I know some of the stuff that he got up to and I know some of the things that he said and did. And I don't really have a take yet.

not to say that I won't at some point. I appreciate you bringing it up, and you're kind of motivating me to look into this a little bit more and see if I can figure something out. All right, let's check out this one from the 203. And this, herein lies the point I was trying to make earlier

about the rewind episodes and the archive we have. Check this out. This is from the 203. This is John from the 203. How about an episode of Spade Cooley? He was a country music sensation. Fiddle player, had his own big band,

and his own television show. He beat his wife to death with his own bare hands in front of his three children. He even has a star in the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Thanks, man. So 203, what I say about darkness, huh? I can't escape it today. But listen, this is the point I was making earlier in that earlier block. We have an episode on Spade Cooley from the first season,

first second season of Disgraceland, I believe. It's in the archive. You can hear it now. And I will let you know that after, I wrote that episode, the darkness was so, so intense. I had to take like a two, three week break from researching and writing. So check that out. 617-90666-66-3-8. Get at me, guys. Let me know who you want to hear me write about, talk about in the new year. Get a lot planned for you. Got a lot of text here. Haven't responded to text in a while. Let's check these out. This one from the

6-1-2. Hey, Jake, hey, Stevie Ray Vaughn. It would be a great listen. Stevie Rayvon's always a great listen, 6-1-2. Come on, man. We'll get a to Stevie at some point. 617 writes in, Hey, Jake, it's Johnny Vinyl, John McNeely. Been a little bit behind on my disgrace land episodes.

Which one did you shout me out on? I don't remember, Johnny. If you haven't, check it out. I'm reading Getty Lee's book in his chapter, Gidde Lee's book in his chapter, on his parents surviving the Holocaust. He was jaw dripping, so gritty in detail. Put it in there because he said,

it's important to know the stories behind what shapes a person, and in this case, the musician, Johnny, you're so right. Getty Lee is so right. And I think that's the whole reason we're here, isn't it? See what's shaped the musicians. All right. 919 writes in. Hey, Jake, some musician stories to tell. Maybe, if you haven't told them already. Dave from Depeche Mode, Randy from Lamb of God, Shannon from Blind Melon, Trent Reznor, Rick Rubin. Those are all great. And you're definitely getting into them at some point. I would say of the ones you mentioned there, 919, the Depeche Mode.

and the blind melon ones get suggested the most. So those will probably be coming first. 603 just writes in Sam Kinnison. And 603? I think you're right. I think that's a great fucking idea, paging Zeth Lundy. Hey Jake, Kristen from the 618,

but formerly the 573, listening to your latest bonus episode, wasn't sure if you'd ever considered creating an episode on Dave Letterman. Who! I haven't considered that. And I was big into Letterman at the time of that scandal. Um, I don't know. I don't know how I would handle that one. I don't know. I don't know. Uh, let's go to the 513. Hey, Jake, Becky here from the 513.

Listening today to movie recommendations for kids, I myself am a Gen X mother. My son is 30 now. I couldn't wait for him to grow up in like the same movies and music as me. And it happened. What a cool feeling it was. and this is in response to me asking you guys how to sort of bring our kids along into some of the more explicit content that we're into without shielding them. And Becky's got some great recommendations here. A lot of them are movie recommendations and I think I'll get into those

in the rap party that I'm going to record tomorrow. 604 writes in, hey, thanks for helping with the dishes, Jake, and sends a picture of himself doing them dishes. You got it, man. You might want to be able to. to put on some pants. Looks like you're in a towel. So that's good. 505 writes in, hey Jake, my suggestion for an episode of disgrace and is the artist

Banksy. Aside from graffiti, hey, this is the second Banksy recommendation that I've received in the past couple weeks. I'm not going to read any further because I don't want to repeat myself, but sounds like we might be onto a Banksy episode at some point. Massive attack. What else we got here? 423 writes in, is there anything podworthy about Marilyn Manson? He seems like a creepy dude. Of course there is. And we're going to do that one this year. Just waiting. Waiting for the dust to settle, as they say.

401-2, ELP, Emerson Lake and Palmer. Really? Emerson Lake and Palmer? What? I don't know. 617-90666-3-8. Keep the recommendations coming, guys. I'm going to take a quick break back and flash.

There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games. You get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her frenzy. either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends, oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me?

The cops didn't seem to care, so they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed, I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When, like, young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever. My first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do?

Rather be disappointed in. Do that. Dennis Leary. I wake up and I'm hitting him in the head. with a water bomb. And Bruce Jenner is on the aisle in a karate stance like he's about to attack me, like making karate noises. And his entire, the Kardashian family over there,

everybody's going, and the air marshal is trying to grab my arms and screaming. I immediately know that I've been asleep walking. David O'Yello. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Guy Branham. So anyway, Nicole Kidman broke up with Keith Thurban. Being half of a country couple was always a hat she was going to wear, not like a life she was going to lead.

Oh, interesting. I like that. Did you practice that on your way over? Gaten Matarazzo from Stranger Things. Tana Monsu. Camilla Morone, Carrie Kenny Silver, and more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, we are back, and this is the recommendations part, the part of the show where we recommend the things that are worth recommending the recommendations part. Guys, I don't know if I mentioned this last time we talked on either the after party or the rap party, but I watched a great Parker Posey movie, and I think I mentioned it, and it reminds

me of what's coming up in the feed here. Party Girl, great New York 90s movie. It's filmed at the exact moment in history when I started. going to Manhattan with my band to play shows. It's like 1995, 96. It's just, it's just, it just looks and feels so great. It's the New York that I first, like I said, started going to and fell in love with, and I was lucky enough that New York still had a lot of danger to it.

It was still a lot less dangerous than it was 10 years prior, but it was a much different animal than what it became in the 2000. thousands and what it is now. And it's all captured in that film in a way that really, really brings me back. And it reminds me, you know, Madonna is one of the great, I know she's not from New York, I know she's from Michigan, but she definitely, her career started in New York. And she is a great New York character. And I really tried to nail that in the Madonna episode. And I remember when I wrote the episode, I specifically wanted to spend a good amount of brain energy and I didn't really realize how much time it would end up being in the episode on the song

Borderline, which if you follow me on Instagram, you know I'm obsessed with that song. And I wrote at the time, this is what I wrote at the time about Madonna and Borderline. Madonna immersed herself in the growing dance club scene of the early 80s in Manhattan and club culture, a culture that celebrated and flaunted sex, was as big an influence on Madonna as downtown punk. Her sexuality was hers to play with, and she was unafraid to share it with the world. All of this is on display in her first single to hit the Billboard U.S. Top 10, Borderline. It's hard for me to explain the greatness and appeal of Madonna's borderline. The opening notes on the electric piano got me every time I hear them. It's a simple, childlike sound, a melancholic melody that looks back to the 70s and then

the beat comes in, and all of a sudden you're in a new decade, onto something fresh, fully committed, committed to the promise of the unknown. The feeling is similar to the beginnings of any great relationship. You feel comfortable and safe, while at the same time excited about where it's all going. The single was Madonna's first big come-on, her flirtatious glance across the bar, her nonchalant bump on the dance floor. It was electric, the casual touch from her hand, pushing it, the whisper in your ear, keep pushing it, and the mischievous laugh, heart melancholy. The smile, the pout, the abandon, the control, a total turn on. Madonna had made a pass at America, and America was smitten.

I love that fucking song. Can you tell? It's so good. It's so, so, so, so, so good. And I love this Madonna episode, and I hope you guys do as well. Check it out. It's coming up in your feeds this Friday. Hit me up, 617-90666-36-3-8.

Let me know what you think about it. You can also hit me on Instagram at Descentral. disgrace land pod, Twitter X, YouTube, TikTok, at disgracelam pod. I want to read you guys this DM I got on Instagram. And the listener asked that she not be mentioned by name, and she sent in some pictures too. But we released a Sharon Stone episode recently in the Badlands feed, and that's what this is in relation to.

But this listener writes to me a lot about the disgrace land episodes as well. And she's great. And I get why she doesn't want her name mentioned, but I want to read this to you anyways. And apologies now. If you listen to the rap party this week, and you hear this there too, because I'm going to double dip

and read it over there too because I'm just so jazzed by this message. Hey, Jake, happy 2024. Well, I sometimes I feel like you've read my diary when it comes to your shows. My connections to Scorsese, Bjork, Jane's Addiction, were all tangential. But today you hit home.

Hit home, all caps. She goes on to say, The summer I graduated from college, I acted in my university's summer theater program. I met an up-and-coming actress from Los Angeles, and we became fast friends. She encouraged me to move out to L.A. instead of New York City, which was my plan.

And I did just that, and she helped me out when I got there. Her career was taking off, and she got me extra work on three of her films, the first of which was basic instinct. If you haven't already guessed, it was Sharon Stone. I was privy to a lot of the goings on and know all about the day she shot the interrogation scene. I sat behind her at the premiere and heard her gasp when she first saw it. The listener sends in these pictures.

They're so great. I wish I could share them with you. They're from 1990 and their candids of her with Sharon Stone in her kitchen, which, as you can imagine, Candids of Sharon Stone in 1990 are pretty fucking compelling. myself Sharon and my ex at a New Year's Eve party in 92 and that year she helped me get me a small roll in sliver that ended up on the cutting room floor oh well I'm sharing this with you because I know you'll appreciate

and you can share on the show but please don't use my name you got it I just wanted to want to share that because we try really hard here at Scraceland and Badlands where all the same crew to tow the line between you know what we find in our research what happened and and how to turn that into something that's that's that's that that here's to the truth of the story but is also entertaining and when we hear from people who were there in the moment and let us know uh that we're that we're on the right track it just uh it's really validating and um i don't know i felt like that would be a good share with you guys so so

there you go uh apologize for any um if that's perceived as self-aggrandizing or anything like that that's not the point i just you know i just you know i just you know i I'm like everyone. I get psyched by bold face names and candid photos of Sharon Stone. Can't help me. All right, I can take a quick break, 617-90666-638 voicemail text. Hit me up with anything that's on your mind at Disgraceland Pod on Instagram, on X, on YouTube, on TikTok, back in a flash. All right, welcome back again.

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