DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode - The Allegations Against Bill Murray, Your Bill Murray Stories and More

Episode Date: January 16, 2025

This week, Jake wrestles again with the idea that an artist whose work he admires may, in fact, be an a**hole. Plus, a listener's story of rock and roll animalism reignites a dormant memory for Jake!O...n Tuesday we're bringing you an episode on the one and only Beastie Boys, a band who melded their eclectic influences like no one else, and Jake wants to know: What musician has influenced you the most? Which artists have left their mark on you? Tell Jake at 617-906-6638, disgracelandpod@gmail.com, or on socials @disgracelandpod.For more great Disgraceland episodes, dive into our extensive archive, including such episodes as:Episode 37 & 38 - N.W.A.Episode 154 - Jane's AddictionEpisode 18 - Brian JonesEpisode 36 - The Rolling Stones in ExileEpisode 46 - The Rolling Stones at AltamontEpisode 60 & 61 - The Rolling Stones in Swinging LondonTo help provide care for animals affected by the Eaton Fire in Los Angeles, please visit PasedenaHumane.org.To hear an extended version of the After Party, become a Disgraceland All Access member at disgracelandpod.com/membership.Visit www.disgracelandpod.com/merch to see the latest Disgraceland merch!Sign up for our newsletter and get the inside dirt on events, merch and other awesomeness - GET THE NEWSLETTERFollow Jake and DISGRACELAND:InstagramYouTubeX (formerly Twitter)  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 This is exactly right. Double Elvis. Hey, Discos, need a little more disgrace land in your life? Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the After Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode.
Starting point is 00:00:44 A little thing we like to call The After Party. This is the show, after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig into the day. dirt. On this bonus episode, we are talking about allegations that have been made against Bill Murray. Also talking about your personal stories involving Bill Murray and, well, your favorite Bill Murray movies and roles and of course your voicemails and texts. And as always, a whole lot of rosy. All right, discos, let's get into it. So, Bill Murray is an asshole. It pains me
Starting point is 00:01:26 to say that, but it's true. But wait, Jake, what about all the praise you've heaped on Bill Murray over the past few days in the previous after-party episode and in the full episode that we just heard and on social media talking to us, well, I guess I'm praising a caricature of Bill Murray, a composite. I've subconsciously invented this composite. It's a combination, the coolest of Bill Murray's characters
Starting point is 00:01:51 and the mythical everyman stories that we've all heard about regarding Bill Murray over the years and that some of you have even experienced that we're going to hear later in the show. But what I've learned over the last week in digging deeper into Bill Murray is that as much as I love Private John Winger from Stripes or Steve Zisu from a life aquatic or any other number of iconic Bill Murray characters, Bill seems to be, well, an asshole. And this is complicated, okay? It doesn't also mean that he's not a great guy. It doesn't mean that he wasn't that cool dude who served you a drink at your favorite bar or that let you play through on the golf course or help some little old lady cross the street or whatever.
Starting point is 00:02:30 but the evidence of Bill Murray's prickish behavior, it's not hard to find, and there is a lot of it. And sure, some of the allegations might be a little suspect. But after researching this behavior myself, my gut tells me that people like Angelica Houston, Harold Ramis, and others, they have legitimate beef with Bill Murray. I woke up the morning before recording this episode and did a quick Google search for Bill Murray, just to see if there was anything in the news that I wasn't aware. of. I know Bill, I believe he's currently on tour with his band. And I just wanted to, you know, I didn't want to record this and be overlooking anything. And lo and behold, there were three pages of returns, search returns on Google regarding the allegations made by actress Lucy Lou, claiming that Bill Murray hurled unacceptable insults at her on the set of Charlie's Angels.
Starting point is 00:03:24 No real specifics, just allegations. Lou came out and brought this up in an interview. with The Guardian just a couple days ago this week, which is why it's now back in the news. But again, no specifics. But still, I'm like, hmm, okay. And I've heard, I've heard a little bit from you guys on social as well, some comments about Bill's behavior. And I knew there was some loose, I don't want to say me too. That's the wrong word. But some, some allegations from a couple years ago. And I remember, I remember doing my own sort of quick Google search on that and not finding anything that was particularly compelling. I'm using that word carefully. So anyways, I decided to just dive in a little bit deeper, see what else was out there. It's important to note
Starting point is 00:04:10 that I didn't write this Bill Murray episode. I did not research it and I did not write it. I just voiced it and I produced it and I'm not making excuses in any way. I only say that as a means to illustrate that my knowledge of Bill Murray is not say the same knowledge base I have of episode that I research myself and that I write myself like this upcoming Beastie Boys episode next week. But back to Bill Murray and back to the allegations. I dug a little bit deeper. And there's a lot, okay? There's a lot of allegations against Bill Murray from co-stars of his in the past. And I want to be careful about the word allegations here. These do not, in most cases, rise to the typical fair of horror that we discuss with our subjects. Like I said at the top, Bill Murray is an
Starting point is 00:04:55 asshole, okay? There's lots of people who are assholes. Doesn't mean they're not great artists. And we can litigate whether or not some of these allegations are just asshole behavior or if they elevate beyond that. The most damning of these allegations comes from actress Gina Davis, who started in a Bill Murray movie that I'd never seen called Quick Change from 1990. Davis claims that Bill wouldn't take no for an answer. And the incident didn't go full Louis C.K. But Bill Murray allegedly made Gina Davis lay down in a bed while he used a massage device on her. And Davis says, quote, I said no multiple times, but he wouldn't relent. Gina Davis says that, of course, about Bill Murray.
Starting point is 00:05:36 There are numerous other allegations that don't rise to sexual misconduct. And Gina Davis isn't exactly alleging sexual misconduct here. I want to be careful. She's alleging exactly what I just read to you. Okay. These other allegations, however, they just paint this picture of a prick, of an asshole. like I said, a moody comedian, perhaps often hungover who has a hard time with authority. And you mix that with Murray's obvious and pretty consistent, smart-ass attitude that he's demonstrated
Starting point is 00:06:04 throughout the years. And you start to see what's going on. The guy's an asshole. Salonj Noles. And for those of you who don't know, this is Beyonce's sister. Salonj Nose went on SNL in 2016 and performed a song titled, Don't Touch My Hair. So what did Bill Murray do backstage, according to writer, producer, Jed Mayard? he touched Solange's hair.
Starting point is 00:06:25 And he was kind of a prick, constantly peppering her with questions about her hair. And I don't need to tell you what that means, okay? But it doesn't mean nothing. Again, guy can be a prick. Rob Schneider recently detailed a 1993 hosting stint on SNL by Bill Murray, where Bill, according to Rob, demonstrated, quote, unquote, naked rage toward cast members.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Schneider alleges that Bill Murray hated, including himself, and most specifically including Adam Sandler and Chris Farley, who we just featured a couple weeks ago in Disgraceland. And Murray reportedly couldn't stand these guys. Allegedly Bill Murray also iced out Harold Ramos for 20 years. That comes from Harold Ramos' daughter. And Bill Murray hurtfully shut out Angelica Houston on the set of Life Aquatic, and that comes from Angelica Houston.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Bill Murray shoved a nine-year-old Seth Green into a trash can. He threw an ashtray at the head of Richard Dreyfus on the set of what about Bob? And according to divorce proceedings with his ex-wife, Jennifer Murray, Bill hit her in the face. Now, this last allegation like the Gina Davis allegation, is indefensible if true. But the other allegations paint the picture of a jerk. So who knows where Bill Murray's line was, where Bill Murray's line is, and what he was capable of in the past or what he's capable of in the future?
Starting point is 00:07:46 That said, none of it changes how I feel about. Bill Murray, the actor. I can hold the two thoughts in my head at the same time. One, Bill Murray may be an asshole. Two, Bill Murray may be one of the funniest dudes to ever do it. But given that this is disgrace land and this tension between art and artists is central to what we do here, yo, it's important that if I discover this stuff the morning before and after party by just doing a shallow research dive into Bill Murray that I need to bring you guys this, otherwise I would be being disingenuous, okay that's why i'm doing it that's why i'm bringing these recently learned facts when it comes to being an actual good dude bill murray appears to be as he would say medium talent still to come
Starting point is 00:08:29 your story is about bill murray and your favorite bill murray performances when we get into your voicemails and texts uh real quick though this week we've got another legend popping up in your feed in the rewind slot after this here after party bonus episode and that's a full episode uh on keith Richard's and Key's Canadian busts in the 70s, Justin Trudeau's mom, the then prime minister's wife in bed with Mick Jagger and Ronnie Wood and Justin's dad, Fidel Castro. Wait a minute, alleged dad, I should say. Tell me I'm wrong. Watching it all go down from the shores of Cuba. It's the very first Rolling Stones episode, guys, that we ever released. And it's a doozy. And I hope you revisit it with us this week in the rewind slot. And I hope you take my tongue-in-cheek conspiracy claims here
Starting point is 00:09:11 with a grain of salt and all do quality. qualifications that said, I don't know, those images, young Fidel Castro, young Justin Trudeau. Those are compelling. All right, of course, next week, we're hitting you guys with our Beastie Boys episode. And when you're listening to this episode and episode about influence, I want you guys to be thinking about which musician has had the most influence on you and why. And I don't mean musically. You don't have to be a musician to answer this question. I heard a great quote last week from, I can't remember who I heard it from. I was talking about it last night at dinner. This is a very simple quote about how storytelling in general can be inspiring in different ways.
Starting point is 00:09:51 And it's so obvious that it goes without even saying. We just, I take it for granted. I watch stuff all the time. I listen to stuff all the time. I hear stories all the time. They all influence me. They all motivate me. They all compel me to do different things.
Starting point is 00:10:04 And this is especially true of musicians. And even though I've been a musician or I am a musician, you know, made my living as a musician at one point in my life. And I talk about musicians. You know, even when I was a kid, I was inspired deeply by certain musicians in non-musical ways. So you can get at me by answering this question, either from a musical standpoint, if you are a musician or from a non-musical standpoint, I just want to know, as you're going to hear in this Beastie Boys episode, that is all about influence. I just want to know which musicians have left their mark on you and who have most influence you. Let me know. And of course, let me know why.
Starting point is 00:10:41 617-90666-6-36-3-8. Hit me up. Ask for cookie puss. Leave a voicemail or a text for the best in men's clothing. That's a disgrace-lamp pod on the socials, Instagram, Facebook, X, and disgracelam pot at gmail.com. I'll be back right after this with your calls, texts, and DMs on last week's question of the week. All right, guys, just a reminder to make sure that if you're an Apple podcast listening, you've got those auto downloads turned on so that you're not missing any of these episodes. You're going to go into the app. Yeah, turn the auto downloads on, all right? Okay, let's get to you guys. This week's story of the week comes from Disco Amanda Duggan or Duggan. I'm not sure how to pronounce Amanda's last name. I apologize for getting it half wrong, at least. Anyways, Amanda is in Little Rody and Amanda writes, hey, Jake, Amanda from the 401 here, and I just wanted to tell you about my small run-in with Jack Black. My friends and I all went to see Tenacious D, maybe 12 years ago. And when they came to Providence, first of all, Jack Black went on. to a talk show and had no idea where Rhode Island even was. That's offensive.
Starting point is 00:12:03 As someone from New England, that's offensive. You got to know where Rhode Island is. How do you not know where a state is? Jeez, man. Amanda is more charitable than I am. She goes on to say, but a lot of people wouldn't know, I guess, right? She then says, so we all took a few cars up to Providence. I got free drinks all night because I was wearing my kitten mitten shirt from
Starting point is 00:12:20 It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Great time. I caught a guitar pick from Jack. And when the show was over, my friends, all except for my best friend, who wanted to go to a party. Well, if you know Lupos slash Roxy in Providence, and you know that the tour bus always parks in the back and there's really only one way out. So we waited in the snow and Jack Black finally came out. And there weren't that many people there. So I got a hug from Jack. And he told me he loved me after I screamed that I loved him. What an awesome night.
Starting point is 00:12:48 And my friends who left were so mad. Thanks for reading. Love the show so much. Thanks for keeping rock alive. You got it. Amanda. You guys know the drill. You email me. You text me. Send me a voice mail through stories of rock and roll, animalism, or otherwise, and I'm going to pick one or read it here every week, thus contributing to the preservation of the rock and roll spirit here in disgrace land in a very real and tangible way. 200 years from now, guys, when the AI is writing all the hit songs and rock and roll is just a far more distant memory than it even is today, the future world can listen to disgrace land right here. They can hear your voices detailing the once mighty spirit of rock and roll. Okay, you can also hit me up with your answers to our question.
Starting point is 00:13:27 question of the week, 617-9066638, voice-mount and text at Disgraceland Pod on the socials. Last week's question of the week was, what was your favorite Bill Murray performance? Sub-question, I asked for you guys to hit me with any firsthand personal Bill Murray stories from your encounters with this week's full episode subject. Steve in Australia. You go, Jake. It's Steve from the 3183 in Australia, in Melbourne. The Bill Murray role's favorite Bill Murray role
Starting point is 00:13:58 I want to first off give a special mention to Bill Murray in Tootsie I think he's fantastic in that Perfect blend of struggling Playwright and Street Smart New Yorker Who doesn't mind getting himself ripped every now and then Is a group of friends And I'll probably am far from the first one to suggest this I think Bill my favorite Bill Murray role
Starting point is 00:14:21 Is easily in strike Stripes is just fantastic stuff. And it's not about Bill Murray, but you have to also mention Harold Ramis in the same breath. May rest in peace, but just, you know, Bill Murray's work as John Winger. In Stripes is absolutely outstanding. My favorite Phil Murray role for miles and miles.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Steve, I got to hand it to you, man. I have no recollection of Bill Murray being in Tootsie. And I've seen Tootsie, but I think I've only seen it as a child. And I'm really excited about going back and watching it right now because I can't remember this role at all. But also, of course, Stripes, John Winger, Steve, my favorite performance as well. Incredible. I think it's the iconic Bill Murray early first half of his career. I think it's the iconic Bill Murray performance to be all other.
Starting point is 00:15:20 performances. All right, let's check out the 862. Hey, Jake, it's Tom from the 862. You wanted Bill Murray's stories. I encountered Bill Murray in an airport one time. Being a fan, I walked up to Mr. Murray. As for an autograph, he proceeded to take out a pen and a piece of paper. I looked at me and said, I'd like your autograph. So I gave my autograph. He looked at it and said, hey, that's pretty good. Thanks. And he proceeded to give me his autograph. So peace. We'll talk to you soon. Bye. Amazing story, 862. Appreciate you.
Starting point is 00:15:52 I love this because it's just so on brand for Bill Murray, turning it around. Beautiful story. Thanks, 317. 617-90666-3638. 317 writes in, hey, Jake, this is Lauren from the 208, but with a 317 area code. Bill Murray steals the scene with whatever he does, even in Zombie Land, truly proves there are only small actors in not small roles. He's hilarious as Zombie Murray. Love the show.
Starting point is 00:16:18 seen zombie land but of course now you got me intrigued and i'm going to check it out i wonder if it's appropriate for my kids i'm struggling finding movies to watch with my children um i think i'm going to show on blues brothers side note i showed in the um the james brown church scene the other day i think i can work my way around the sort of not so safe for kids parts in that movie i don't know i'll check it out or report back dawn from the six one nine formerly from the seven seven three writes it my favorite bill movie is lost in translation. As a former flight attendant, this film is close to my heart as it perfectly depicts how it feels to be totally immersed in a foreign environment and how finding a friend is so
Starting point is 00:16:55 awesome. It also shows the transient nature of these friendships. Love this text. Thank you, Don. I appreciate that. And that movie, I think that's the quintessential movie, just like Stripes is of the first half of Murray's career, of the second half of Murray's career, more than life aquatic, which I might like more, but I think Lost in Translation is probably.
Starting point is 00:17:14 a better performance for old Bill. And to that point, 775 writes in, as I get older, things I found funny in my younger days don't hold up. As such, I find Bill Murray much more compelling and dramatic roles where he can provide some comic relief. I really like St. Vincent for this reason. There are a handful of others I also like, but this is the one that sticks with me for some reason. For straight comedy, I liked What About Bob. Love, What About Bob? I'm happy that Bill Murray and being Richard Dreyfus with that with that ashtray on the set of what about Bob. St. Vincent, I've only seen once. I don't really remember it.
Starting point is 00:17:50 I remember liking it, I guess. I just don't really remember. It's a really interesting point that you bring up here, 775. I think I went through a phase where the things that I found funny when I was younger no longer appealed to me or to my sense of humor for a brief period of time. But now I'm finding I've sort of reverted to fun. and I laugh even harder at the things that I found funny when I was a kid. Recently showed my kids some beavis and butt-head episodes because they've been hectoring me to watch the series.
Starting point is 00:18:25 And there's no way I'm letting them do that. But I did police it sort of on YouTube, sort of pick some episodes that I could watch with them and stop or fast forward if things got a little too, beavisy. And I was dying. I was dying laughing. So I don't know, maybe 775 at some point you're going to come back around and you're going to find those old Bill Murray movies funny again. Who knows? Why not? Right? That'd be a good thing, right? 617-906-6638. You guys want to send me some text. You want to send me some voicemails, whatever you want to do. You can also hit me up at Disgraclam Pod on Facebook, on Instagram, on X.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Lincoln Jesic on Instagram writes, I had a sore throat. I drank fireball. No more sore throat. now I'm drunk. Take notes, Jake Brennan. Lincoln, that might be my favorite text of the day. Thank you. Lots of Bill Murray content over on our Facebook page and lots of commentary there from all of you. Users, good conversations going. We told the story on social media this week, which we told in the episode, we sort of micro-adamized it, I should say, the story of Bill Murray coming to blows with Chevy Chase, almost on live TV, but they were broken up by John Belushi before SNL went live. that night. And we, like I said, we mentioned this. We tell this story on Instagram and on Facebook and a lot of you have chimed in. So I'm in there as well. Head over to facebook.com at disgraceland
Starting point is 00:19:51 pod. Follow us over there. If you're not already, follow us on Instagram, follow us on X and get into the conversation. All right, I want to finish this segment with one more story of rock and roll animalism. This one was quite hysterically emailed to me by Double Elvis head of operations, Jamie Deemis, who I work with closely here. Now, Jamie emails me every day, but she sent this to the disgrace land email, which I think was funny. And I talked to Jamie quite frequently on the telephone,
Starting point is 00:20:21 and she did not mention this. And I loved it. I love that she just sent it in as a disgrace land listener. And it's a great story. So I'm going to read it to you here. It says, hey, Jake, I've been listening to the after-party episodes and want to contribute my craziest, most dangerous rock and roll experience to this conversation.
Starting point is 00:20:37 It was August 8th, 1990s. An insane, all-caps lineup at Lollapalooza, Greatwoods. Great Woods is the big shed amphitheater in Massachusetts, in western Massachusetts, for those who don't know. Here's the lineup from Jamie's perspective, starting with lush, Pearl Jam, Jesus and Mary Chain, Sound Garden, Ice Cube, Ministry, and the headliners, red hot chili peppers.
Starting point is 00:21:02 I was there on the lawn with my then-boyfriend Arthur. Everything was fine and dandy until ministry hit the stage, and I was not at all familiar with their stuff. stuff, but they were loud and dark, and they started whipping up the crowd. We noticed a small fire on the lawn. Okay, so here's what you got to know. Greatwoods, the first section of the crowd, like the first 100 rows or something, 200, whatever it is, there are seats. And then behind those seats, there's a walkway. And then behind that walkway is a big grass hill, which they call the lawn. And that's sort of general admission seating up there. And that's where shit went down if you were
Starting point is 00:21:35 going to Great Woods back in the day. So Jamie goes on to say, we noticed a small fire, on the lawn. People were burning mostly trash at first, and then more fires. Then some guys started pulling down the wooden fencing surrounding the venue and using the planks to build a huge bonfire. We're talking 20-foot flames. It was insane. Soon, hordes of kids were running in circles around the enormous fire. And the show went on. And I distinctly remember someone throwing a blanket on the fire, which exploded into a huge burst of flames. It was terrifying. At this point, there were fires all over the lawn. All hell was breaking loose in the lawn section. People started pulling up sections of the turf and hurling at all the people sitting in the seats. And only after people in the
Starting point is 00:22:13 seats were getting hit with bottles and chunks of turf did the venue stop the performance. My memory is a bit shady, pretty sure I'd consume some shrooms that evening, but I recall Al Jurgensen asking the crowd to cut the shit so they could keep playing. I also remember fire trucks coming to put out the fires on the lawn. But after that, the show went on and red hot chili peppers played an amazing set that night. Exemplifies your point about true rock and roll being dangerous rockerola. Jamie, great story, and you don't know this, but I was actually at that show. We didn't know each other at that point, and I remember it distinctly, but I had forgotten about it, which is why I wanted to read this.
Starting point is 00:22:47 How does one forget about a massive bonfire at a concert? And this thing was huge. Now I remember. And I remember the people dancing around it. To Ministry, by the way. And I was a fan of ministry. So I knew very well what ministry was cooking up. And it was dark.
Starting point is 00:23:00 And that whole imagery was borderline satanic. what is with people starting fires. Side note, caveat. Obviously, there's a lot going on in Los Angeles. A lot of people have been affected by this. Horrible, horrible disaster. And we're still getting to the bottom of how it started. And there's a lot of information out there.
Starting point is 00:23:20 But I have seen recent videos of people lighting fires in Los Angeles, in these neighborhoods, adding to the disaster, to the tragedy with this ludicry. And I just don't fucking... Get it. I said it before. I'll say it again to any of you who are affected by these fires out there. God bless. I'm thinking of you. I'm thinking of your families. I had a close friend of mine has lost his entire house. I know that I am not unique. I know that a lot of people have friends and family out there who have suffered immense loss. And I'm sure some of you who will eventually hear this
Starting point is 00:23:55 will have suffered some sort of loss as well. And again, my heart breaks for you. I hope you're doing as well as you can be. I just would like to say, I've seen evidence of this all over social media, and I just want to point it out that in the darkness, there is light. And we are seeing people come together in the face of this tragedy and help out other folks. And I just think that is wonderful.
Starting point is 00:24:18 And I want to shine a little light on that. And we should try to focus on that as best we can. I'm going to take a quick break. I'll be back in a flash. All right. I am back. One more thing on the LA wildfires here. There's lots of places to donate to, you know, Red Cross.
Starting point is 00:24:47 there's local organizations as well. You guys are all on social media. You see these organizations popping up. I know you're donating. I reached out to a friend of mine in Los Angeles, and I just wanted to ask him specifically. His home was spared, although he lives near Altadena. And I asked him,
Starting point is 00:25:07 I was like, are there any organizations you want me to call out? And he specifically mentioned Pasadena Humane. And you can go to Give. at Pasadenahumane.org. And obviously we're thinking of all the people who are affected by this horrible tragedy. And one of the really bad results of what's happening out there,
Starting point is 00:25:29 the palisades and everywhere else in Los Angeles where these fires are occurring is the displacement of all these animals who have nowhere to go. And Pasadena Humane, from my guy, Chris's perspective, is a worthy organization who's helping with these displaced animals.
Starting point is 00:25:43 And again, you can go to give. Pasadenahumane. org if you care to donate. And of course, there's always the Red Cross and, as I said, a host of other organizations doing really good work out there. All right. Let's do some, what are we going to do here? Let's do some reviews real quick. The reviews, as you know, help with the show, help with discovery. Carol Trotta over on Spotify, writes in reaction to the Bill Murray episode, love the show. The way you tell each story has me hooked, even when I'm not a fan of the subject. Not the case with this episode. She's talking about Bill Murray. Keep up the great
Starting point is 00:26:19 storytelling. You got it. Carol. Carol, get in touch. Hit me up. We'll get you some merch. This one comes on Apple Podcasts from He's H-R-D-G-G-G-Sug. Subject, Jerry Lee Lewis, five stars. Just so you guys know, we re-released the Jerry Lee Lewis episode in the rewind slot. I think you do know to that. I talked about the last week's after-party. Listener goes on right now. I've listened to every episode, and this one remains my favorite. It's the alpha, the promise of what will be delivered. Jake took on one of the wildest rockers ever and set the stage for more epic episodes that keep me tuned in every week. I appreciate this review. We released that Jerry Lee episode back in 2018.
Starting point is 00:26:56 It's 2025 and we are still going strong. Get in touch, whatever your name is. This is the weirdest handle. He's H.R. D. GTG. And we'll get you some free merch. All right. At Disgracelampod on the DMs. Disgracelandpod at gmail.com. If you want to send me an email. And I'm reading. this email from Penny Wenninger because I'll tell you why in a second. Penny goes on to say, you asked for my favorite Bill Murray movie. Mine is one that might be overlooked meatballs. A funny feel-good story featuring Bill as nuddiest in compassion itself. Looking forward to the episode.
Starting point is 00:27:35 I, you know, guys, I think of all the movies that I received incoming on on Bill Murray. Meatballs got the most heat, which is why aren't. reading Penny's email here. Not that I particularly care about meatballs. Not my favorite movie, you know, but you guys love it. So I just figured, hey, give the people what they want. Penny, thanks for the email. Appreciate you.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Everyone else who wrote in about meatballs, appreciate you as well. But come on, stripes is better. You know, you know, you know it. You know it. All right, guys, next week for you guys, all access episode on Towns Van Zant, great Texas songwriter, one of the wildest to ever do it. great. It's not even, that adjective just doesn't work. You know, anyways, you're going to have to hear this episode. If you're an all-access member, this is your exclusive episode for the month. Next month, you're going to get an episode on Stevie Ray Vaughn. I don't know why we stayed in Texas for these two episodes, but we did.
Starting point is 00:28:32 So I just wanted to hip you to all that because this episode here is nearing its end. But again, all access members are going to know. Afterparty continues for you right here. Okay. Go to disgracefodd.com.com membership. You can sign. sign up for five bucks a month. You're going to get ad free listening. You're going to get that exclusive episode every month only as a member, like the Towns Vansant one or the upcoming Stevie Ray Vaughn one. I'm about to figure out a whole slate of other exclusive episodes for our Patreon members. You don't want to miss this. Five bucks. It's cost, like I said it before, it's like the cost of a beer. It's the cost of an expensive latte or, you know, a good little cheap coffee and a little deli in one of those like blue and white Greek coffee cup things,
Starting point is 00:29:15 you know, coffee shouldn't be over a buck. There are certain things, just side note, certain things that shouldn't be over a dollar. Coffee, a hot dog, an ice cream cone, even certain domestic beers, just a buck, okay? I would donate to a politician who ran on that platform. All right, you can sign up at disgracehandpod.com slash membership. Back in a flash. All right, guys, we are back. mentioned a bunch of artists in this episode. As always, some of them have been covered in
Starting point is 00:30:03 disgrace land and are there in the archive for you. Jane's Addiction, okay, sound garden. We mentioned Ice Cube. We don't have an Ice Cube episode, but I guess we could. We have two NWA episodes. And we have six Rolling Stones episodes and they all start with the Keith Richards episode that is being re-released as a rewind episode right after this bonus episode in your feed. But if you are interested, the Keith episode, that's part. Part one. Then there's a Brian Jones episode. We released a season later. We released an episode on Altamont, another episode on exile, exile on Main Street, and two episodes on the Stone's early days in London. So that's six Rolling Stones episodes. Get into them. For all these archive episodes, Matt's going to have the information, all that stuff in the show notes. All right, let's recap. Shall we? Number one, I want your story. Call me, text me, hit me up on the social. your favorite story of rock and roll animalism. As wildest story about a rock star that you're aware of
Starting point is 00:31:05 or that you want me to tell. It can be something that I've already talked about. It could be something that you only know about, something that happened to you, or maybe not, maybe it's something from history. Let me know, let me know who you are, let me know where you're from and how long you've been listening to disgrace land.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Number two, right now in your feed, our episode on Bill Murray, number three coming tomorrow, rewinding back to our first Rolling Stones episode on Keith Richards. Number four, merch winners, get in touch. You know who you are. Number five, remember, no one cares about preserving the true spirit of rock and roll more than you do. And well, that's a disgrace.
Starting point is 00:31:34 All right. My favorite Bill Murray movie was released on June 26, 1981. And that would be Stripes. And in honor of that date, here's the Billboard charts from that week. Number one, mistaken identity, Kim Carnes. Last week. Two, peak position. One, weeks on chart.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Nine. Number two, high infidelity. REO speed wagon. Last week, one, peak position, one, weeks on chart, two. Number three, dirty deeds done dirt cheap, ACDC. Last week, three, peak position, three, weeks on chart, 11. Number four, Paradise Theater, sticks. Last week, four, peak position, one, weeks on charts, 22,
Starting point is 00:32:23 John, CISION, number five, and start mixing and start mixing cut it

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