DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode: The Culture Changed Every Ten Years… Until It Didn’t

Episode Date: August 7, 2025

From the Beatles to Nirvana to Pulp Fiction and Friends, every decade used to bring a cultural reset—new sounds, new voices, new aesthetics that changed the way we dressed, talked, and thought. But for the past 25 years, that cycle stopped. Why? In this week’s After Party, Jake takes us back to a time when artists shaped the culture—and breaks down how corporatization, consolidation, and the algorithm killed the artist as changemaker. Plus: a bonus section packed with receipts on music, movies, books, and the myth work we’re all doing together to take it back. On Tuesday, we're bringing you a story about the Temptations and the untimely death of the great Tammi Terrell. Jake wants to know: Which musician's death is the most suspicious? Share your thoughts at 617-906-6638, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or on socials @disgracelandpod. To listen to an extended version of the After Party, become a Disgraceland All Access member at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠disgracelandpod.com/membership⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. For more great Disgraceland episodes, dive into our extensive archive, including such episodes as: Episode 197 - Matthew Perry Episode 93 - Taylor Swift Episode 25 and 26 - Kurt Cobain and Courtney Love Episode 171 Public Enemy To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hey, Discos, need a little more disgrace land in your life? Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the After Party. Welcome to the disgrace land bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the after party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of disgrace land to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. Our mission to uncover the truth, to confront the myth,

to reclaim the story on this bonus episode. We're talking about this week's full episode subject in part two of our run DMC story, getting into a Jam Master Jay here. We're rewinding back to our Britney Spears episodes, previewing our upcoming episode on the temptations and the suspicious death of Tammy Terrell. And we get into your voicemails, text, DMs, and as always, a whole lot of rosy. This is the podcast for the musically obsessed. The outsiders, the independent diggers who know that the best history is the history that gets buried.

Disgraceland is where I tell the stories they didn't want told, the kind you'll end up telling to someone else. All right, discos, let's get into it. So I went to grade school in the 1980s. my high school career started in the late 80s and ended in the early 90s. I went to college in the 90s as well. So I'm kind of, I'm both an 80s and a 90s kid. These are two different things. Anyone who grew up when I did, anyone who is Gen X knows this.

The 80s were vastly different from the 90s. We went from simple minds to, oh well, whatever, never mind. From day glow to flannel, from clever raps by sitcom dads to drive-by shootings, from Pretty and Pink to Pulp Fulp Fills. fiction from Bill Cosby to Jerry Seinfeld from less than zero to high fidelity. And I'm just talking about the books there, not the movies, less than zero book to the high fidelity book. Now, the fashion, the music, the films, the books, the television, the drove culture, defined culture, literally changed how we looked, how we talked, how we thought. Think about

what the 80s looked like and sounded like compared to what things looked and sounded like in the 90s. It was an entirely different world. And you can run the same experiment with the 50s and the 60s, from rockabilly, rebel James Dean vibes to the summer of love in just 10 short years. It's a wild, wild difference, wild jumping culture. And then you can do the same thing from the hippie-dippy boomers to the punk nihilus and disco hedonist. You know, if you go from the 60s to the 70s. And then from the 70s to the 80s, you've got, you know, Miami Vice Neon and Gordon Gecko Greed

and Michael Jackson and Madonna. And then, like I said, the 90s were nothing like the 80s. So you see where I'm coming from here, what I'm getting at. From the 1950s to the 1990s, each decade was wildly different than the last in culture. I grew up in a time like most of you did when there was a cultural reset every decade. The art we consumed, it caused us, like I said earlier, to look at things differently, to think differently, to act differently. And then for some reason, all that stopped.

Ten years after Nirvana debuted on 120 minutes, an event that me and my friends watched live, breathless, like it was our own moon landing, just ten years after that, we got outcast, we got Pink, we got Britney Spears, the rise of commercial hip-hop. So different, yes, but then what? What did we get in the next decade? What's so different about 2011 from 2001?

Not much, especially when you compare it to the difference between 1991 and 1981. And here in 2025, it doesn't feel all that much different from 2015. So what happened? Why do we have seismic cultural shifts every 10 years for half a century? And now we don't. The obvious answer is the internet, but that's only part of it. assure the internet killed the monoculture, okay? We all consume our content in these little neat and tidy niche communities like this one.

And in many ways, that's great. It's how music and true crime podcast, which is its own niche. It's why we can exist and thrive. But the downside of this nicheification, if you will, is a vast sameness on a big mainstream cultural level. We've got this sort of cultural mediocrity. There's a lack of risk that you can feel with our artists. and it has resulted in this lack of change from decade to decade.

The real villain here, it's not the artist, it's not even the internet, it's corporatization. Okay, after the year 2000, American business hit a new level of maturity, especially in the entertainment world, the entertainment business. Capitalism became more efficient, and with that efficiency came consolidation. fewer record labels, fewer movie studios, fewer gatekeepers with taste, and more gatekeepers with spreadsheets. And that means fewer opportunities for artists. And even when artists break through when they break these gates down, they're pressured to keep delivering what works and to not take creative risks. What happens when artists stop taking risks? The art suffers,

culture suffers, we suffer. This is in part why storytelling sort of the theme we've been discussing over the last few after parties, this is a big reason why storytelling feels so stale while music, film, TV, feels stuck. We now live in a subscription world. We don't live in a broadcast world anymore. We live in a subscription world when people subscribe and they want what they signed up for, they want it over and over again. So artists double down on what's already working. I know. I'm one of them. I get, I know, I understand exactly how this works. But remember, the Beatles didn't ask permission to make a day in the life. David Bowie didn't ask permission to be David Bowie.

And Nirvana didn't ask if they could scream their way into oblivion. When's the last time we saw anything like that? When's the last time we all saw something like that? And we were all affected by that. Maybe Jay-Z and Kanye, maybe, I don't know, I just don't, I don't know. I honestly think it goes back to Kurt. some of you are right now thinking Taylor Swift, obviously, massive success, huge, but her influence is something like cultural decoration compared to cultural definition.

It's not transformative. It doesn't, it hasn't turned us collectively into something else. I'm not throwing shade Taylor Swift's way, but she's not changing how people dress or how they talk or how they think the way that Kirk Cobain did or even how a character like Chandler-Bing did. I don't know what this means, but I dropped my son off at school of rock camp this morning. Every kid, every kid had a 1990s band t-shirt on Nirvana, Green Day, Pearl Jam. In 1985, when I was my son's age, I wasn't wearing a John Denver shirt from 1974, okay? I was wearing Van Halen and deaf leopard pins on my jean jacket and riding my BMX around. I could give a fuck what my parents were listening to 11 years prior. Where are the Nirvana's for the kids

my son's age. You know, what are we doing? What are we doing? And for us here in disgrace land, this isn't just about music. This is about storytelling. It's my belief that this increased corporate atmosphere that we now live in,

whatever we want to call it, the increased corporatization, it's gutted the power of great culture-defining film and television and just narrative in general, not just music. However, and this is the good part, there's a solution. I'm going to get to that. I'm going to get to that later in the bonus section of this episode. And I'm going to bring receipts. Okay, I'm going to bring numbers.

I'm going to bring proof. So if you've ever felt like I feel right now, okay, like culture is sort of like putting you on the pain-o mind list, right? Like it's forgotten about you, that the broader mainstream culture no longer reflects what you care about, then you're going to want to hear this bonus section, all right? And this isn't about aging out of what's cool. I don't want any of you thinking that. You people are beyond cool.

You know how I know? Because we talk about some rando, esoteric music history shit here. And you've been here for it for years. Okay? And the artists that we trade on, and the subject matter that we trade in every week, is far cooler than what is being traded in in mainstream culture right now.

Now, can you make, that claim about the artists and the culture that you grew up with. No, that shit was fantastic. I know, I know, I know what I sound like. I know I'm sounding like the old guy on the lawn telling the young kids to get off it, but I'm not. I'm not. And again, like I said, I'm going to bring receipts, okay? I'm going to bring them to the bonus section, all right? You know, but you got to be a member, okay, because I'm not trying to be totally controlled by the corporate overlords here, or maybe because I am just a little. I don't know. But to hear the bonus section. You've got to be an all-access member of Disgraceland. Okay. You can subscribe to our little

niche part of the culture. Okay. You know how to do it. Go to disgracelandpod.com slash membership. Sign up for five bucks a month. Less than the cost of Kirk Cobain's bar of teen spirit. You can become a member on Apple Podcast or Patreon. Patreon. You're going to get a little bit more. You're going to get a little bit more of me in the community chat and a little bit more content per month. Again, in the bonus section, I'm digging into the real numbers here, okay? Record sales, TV ratings, box office halls, banned books, how Pulp Fiction

changed everything. I'm going to prove that yes, this is the important part, I'm going to prove that yes, the shit that you loved back then was better because it had the power to actually change things

unlike what is passing for culture these days. So if there's one thing to take away from all of this, it's it. We don't need the corporations to tell our stories. We can do it ourselves.

I'll be back in a flash with your voicemails and your texts. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends, Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could

could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends.

Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When, like, young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever. My first thing is always,

can you think of anything else that you can do? You'd rather be disappointed in. Do that. Dennis Leary. I wake up and I'm hitting him in the head with a water bomb. And Bruce Jenner is on the aisle in a karate stance. Like he's about to attack me. Like making karate noises.

And his entire, the Kardashians family over there, everybody's going, and the air marshal is trying to grab my arms and screaming. I immediately know that I've been at sleepwalk. David O'Yellowo. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Guy Branham. So anyway, Nicole Kidman broke up with Keith Durbin. Being half of a country couple was always a hat she was going to wear, not like a life she was going to lead.

Oh, interesting. I like that. Did you practice that on your way over? Gaten Moderato from Stranger Things. Tena Monsu. Camilla Marone, Carrie Kenny Silver, and more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea

on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, this week in Disgraceland, we brought you our part two story, our part two episode on RunDMC, which is really an update episode. It's an update on the Jam Master Jay murder. And then this weekend, we are,

running back our Britney Spears, parts one and two episodes in our rewind slots. And next week, we've got our part two episode on The Temptations, which is really a deeper dive into the Tammy Terrell death and the travesty that was her early. Some would say suspicious demise. That's going to be our question of the week next week. Which musician's death is most suspicious? Which cause of death are you calling bullshit on? 617-90666-6638 to let me know. a voicemail, send me a text, hit me up with your answers. And as you know, we'll play what you got to say right here in the after party. Well, some of you anyways. And that's what we're going to do right now. All right. You know where I'm at. I'm in the phone booth. It's the one across the hall.

I'm hanging on the telephone. [phone] if you want to chime in on anything related to disgrace land. This week's question of the week spawned from our Run DMC episode was which hip-hop group is the greatest of all time. Let's check in with the 865 on this very question. Hey, Jake, it's Ratchett from the 865. Most influential hip-hop group all-time. Run DMC is up there, but I've got to go with public enemy because when Public Enemy came out, I believe 1988,

and I forgot to name of the album, but the first couple of Public Enemy albums, I was in middle school, and all of a sudden, as a little white kid, in St. Pete, Florida, I'm looking up Malcolm X. I'm looking at all the stuff that Public Enemy was rapping about. And so as far as influential hip-hop groups, I'd say Public Enemy because they changed the entire consciousness

of a generation of young white hip-hop kids like myself. So, yeah, Public Enemy, most influential hip-hop group all the time. And they're still doing it. All right, 865. I hear you, Ratchet. first public enemy album was yo bum rush the show that's number one uh number two you and i are of the same cloth my man um same thing for me not as early as yo bum rushed the show for me though was nation of millions to hold us back that was the record that did it for me with public enemy when that

came out or when i got my hands on it which was probably 88 or did it come out in 1987 88. Dude, I literally dressed like Chuck D purposefully, like exactly like exactly like Chuck D. Black Adidas high tops, 501 jeans, champion sweatshirt. I didn't rock the Pittsburgh Pirates hat.

I rocked a Mets hat instead. Was and still am a Mets fan despite my fandom for the Boston Red Sox. That's a whole other thing. I'm not going to go into that here. But yeah, I hear you, man. Huge influence. And you're right. wasn't the only one. There were a bunch of white kids in the suburbs taking their cues from Public Enemy and Chuck D. Glorious. Love it. Let's check in here with where we going. Amy in the 716 who just texts in very plainly put, public enemy, period. Yeah, Amy, you're absolutely

right. Amy, Amy's got an earlier text here that I missed. She says, I know I said this in the Patreon, but I just wanted to text and say truly how much I've missed the podcast and your storytelling and your voice, loll. Why you lolling? What does that mean? And our little Patreon community, well, I took a break from whatever the fuck is going on in the world right now. But man, what a joy to come back. Yeah, welcome back, Amy. Happy to have you. Sorry, I missed this back when you sent it in Yikes, May. Apology. Apologies for that. Guys, we're working on a way here at Double Elvis headquarters to engage with you further on the voicemails and the text. And we've come up with something that I think you're going to like,

I think you're going to like it. We're not quite ready to roll it out yet. We haven't fully decided, but we're close. And that may be most likely coming your way soon. If not, I'll just pretend we never had this conversation. 617-906-66-36-38. You want to send me a voicemail. You want to send me a text.

Question of the week coming up, I want your answers on, is going to be what musicians death is the most suspicious, okay? Hit me up 617-906-66-66-38 voicemail and text. You can also hit me up at disgracelam pod on Instagram, TikTok, X, Facebook. Speaking to Instagram, Madam Das, M-A-M-A-M-E, D-A-S, writes, in relationship to the Run DMC episode that we just released. Madam Das writes, this update was a master class in storytelling. Unfortunately, it's a common tale from what I've observed growing up.

And I absolutely hate all caps that it happened to Jay. Thank you for being his voice and also the voice of the witnesses slash victims. Appreciate this message, Madam, Madame Das. This story was a tricky one. It was a tough one. Jam Master Jay was obviously already dead when we released our first episode on Run DMC about four years ago now, something like that. We didn't have a lot of the details on his death at that time. There was a lot of smoke, a lot of smoke.

And I had suspicions, but I didn't want to fully go there. And it took a while for all that information to become publicly available for us to get. Once it did, we decided we were going to do part two. And I'm happy the people responded to it. So if you haven't heard the Run DMC episode, go check that out. It is pretty much a Jam MasterJ episode, just like the upcoming Temptations episode is pretty much a Tammy Terrell episode. Motown fans will know what I'm talking about. This is a fantastic story.

I can't wait for you guys to hear it. 617-906-66-6638. Voicemail and text me after you do listen and let me know your thoughts. Also, I want to know from you, as always, what stories have been buried that need to be told. Dig baby dig, all right?

Your voice helps uncover what gets buried. Your voice, your takes, your messages. They push me to propel me into the dark corners of music history. So keep them coming. All right? It's an important part of the show. It's an important part of what we do here. Quickest way to get my attention these days is the telephone. [phone]. Voicemail, text. I'll be back in a flash.

There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of The Girlfriends, Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck.

I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the Girlfriends. Trust me, babe.

on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When, like, young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever. My first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? Rather be disappointed in. Do that. Dennis Leary.

I wake up and I'm hitting him in the head with a water bomb. And Bruce Jenner is on the aisle in a karate stance, like he's about to attack me, like, making karate noises. And his entire the Kardashian family over there, everybody's going, and the air marshal is trying to grab my arms and screaming. And I immediately know that I've been asleep walking. David O'Yello. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction

or you just go straight for the guts. Guy Branham. So anyway, Nicole Kidman broke up with Keith Thurban. Being half of a country couple was always a hat she was going to wear, not like a life she was going to lead. Oh, interesting. I like that. Did you practice that on your way over? Gaten Matarazzo from Stranger Things.

Tena Monsu. Camilla Morone, Carrie Kenny Silver. And more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, we are back. Apple podcast listeners, make sure you have auto downloads turned on so disgrace land finds you wherever you are at

every single morning so you don't miss a beat. Listen, it's the sports rant section here. I'm going to make this one quick, okay? Because I don't have enough to rant about. The Red Sox are on a freaking tear. Seven in a row. Seven wins in a row. We're in second place.

We're coming up strong behind Toronto. I don't believe in Toronto. I'm not worried about Toronto. We're ahead of the Yankees. That's all that matters. I don't know that this is going to last. I don't think the Yankees. The Yankees don't feel like a third place team to me, okay?

So we shall see. We shall see. But there's been a vibe shift in the ALE East, at least. You have to admit that. And maybe that's because there's been a shift in our sponsorship here for this sports rant segment. Okay, we got five-hour energy as our sponsor, as always, and we are super grateful. But this week, I've got a new five-hour energy product to tell you about the sports

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Get that new confetti-crayed flavor. Now, Matt. Yes, Jake. Give me the buzzer beater for the rant here, all right? Okay. I have a lot of people in my life. I'm not going to name any names, but there's one old head in particular who is way down on baseball for reasons that I believe are nonsensical and sort of outdated. Okay, baseball is exciting as hell right now.

And it's been that way this year, last year. When did they put the new rules in beginning of last year? Was that it? The new rules you cannot deny have made the game more watchable, more exciting. but I got to say I teach my kids to never say the word hate, but I hate the extra innings rule. Okay, with the dude at the start of the top of the 10th inning on second base. It reminds me of like kickball in seventh grade gym class

when Mr. Bonsi knows it. He's only got like five minutes before he's going to get you showered and changed and then before the bell rings and you've got to go back to class so he sticks some rando at second just so someone can win the game. I hate it. I hate that that's professional sports right now. it drives me crazy i do not like it i like most of the other rules most of them anyway pitchcock especially but this one can't abide the dude does not abide that said if it helps the redsox win in october i'll be

celebrating with a five-hour energy confetti craze flavor matt how did i do well jake those new rules have certainly sped things up in baseball but unfortunately they slowed you down a little bit today we were at 116. So we got some work to do. All right, well, you know, better luck next week. And I just want to go on the record here that I agree with you on the extra earnings rule. Not a fan. And that was the sports rant sponsored by Five Hour Energy's new confetti craze flavor.

Unleash your party vibes with as much caffeine as your favorite 12 ounce fancy coffee but with zero sugar and zero crash. available in stores on Amazon or at www.5hourenergy.com. All right, discos, great Hollywoodland episode, if I do say so, myself for all y'all this week. This one on The Inimitable Joan Crawford. I was super caffeinated during the taping of the rap party. Matt, give us a little taste. Espresso has never been appealing to me because I like to enjoy. part of the coffee experience for me is the length of time that it takes to drink the coffee,

right? And espresso, I look at it. I'm like, that's going to be over in like 30 seconds. And that's no fun. Here's what I'm learning about me. I'm a caffeine fan, not just a coffee fan, because I go nowadays, first thing, tea, second thing, Americano, third espresso. I reverse the intensity throughout the morning.

And then it's like, by the time I sit down in front of the mic with you, I'm fucking a rocket ship looking to fucking blast off. Okay, here's our highly caffeinated look at this week in Hollywood land. Jake, what music wrecks inspired by Joan Crawford do you have for us today? This one is testing the limits of my, what's the hot, hop, skip and jump referential treatment that we give these things. Okay, so Joan Craw, I thought, crawfish. All right.

Then I thought of the great Louisiana rock and roll artist Cici ad. Cock. You ever hear of CC Agcock? I feel like I've seen the name before in my life, but I don't know. Incredible. This is one of those dudes. You put out this record in 1994, self-titled on Island Records, produced, I believe, by Denny Cordell, who did the early petty stuff and Leon Russell. That record, I had that record when it came out. It is amazing. I still have it on CD somewhere. You can't get it. It's not on Spotify. It's phenomenal. Later in my career as a musician, I ended up touring in Europe with CCI Adcock. And about 10 years later, you know, later in 2004. And he was one of the most American characters I ever met. We kind of became

friends a little bit, but he's a recluse. He's off the grid. I don't know what the dude's doing. But for those who are interested, in 2004, he put out a record on Yep Rock, which is the label I was signed to, and the record is called Lafayette Marquis. And it is amazing. It is incredible. Not as good as this debut album, but it is incredible. So check out Cici Adcock, Lafayette Marquis. the only time I've ever eaten crawfish was with C.C. Icock in Lafayette, Louisiana. The funnest day of my life might have been with him in Louisiana, one of them, pre-marriage, pre-kids. What's going to say? Careful there. Yeah, for real. But it was like, I wouldn't have fun doing that now is also my point, given the amount of alcohol that was involved.

But it was just a blast. In Louisiana, they do, I don't know if it's a southern thing, but it was explained to me that, like, the big party day down there was Sundays. because it's so church-oriented. And everybody parties together. There's no generation gap. You go to church, and then after church, the party starts. And you party throughout the night, and there's Zadico music, and the whole thing. And it's just, and he took us to one of these, like, dance halls. It was just unbelievable.

I'm pretty sure he slept with my girlfriend at the time that night, but I don't blame him for it. Anyways, the next thing, go from Joan Crawford. All right, Discos, make sure you are subscribed to Hollywoodland, so you're getting our swing at Hollywood in True Crime every week. Get our full episodes, you get our bonus episodes, you get stories like no other on Jack Nicholson, on Robin Williams, on Marilyn Monroe, and on so many more. But back to Disgraceland, the matter at hand.

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All right, welcome back. And thank you for joining me here in another after-party episode. We talked today, some artists we mentioned, Taylor Swift, Nirvana, Public Enemy, Matthew Perry. Matt's going to have the show notes for those episodes. Matt's going to have the episode notes for those stories in the show notes of this here episode. So you can easily find that you want to hear that Matthew Perry episode, for instance. You might be like, why is this Matthew Perry episode of disgrace?

And well, once upon a time, if you're new here, we experimented with doing some non-musical subjects in Disgraceland. And Matthew Perry was one of them. Still in the feed will eventually be in Hollywoodland. But for now, we're one of the only ones left in Disgraceland, along with Anthony Bourdain. So, yeah, and that Matthew Perry one's a banger. You're going to want to hear it. Anyways, I got to get going.

It's late. Matt is waiting patiently for me to finish this so he can finalize it, get it in the feed to all y'all. I get a shut up. I'm going to recap real quick. Number one, this week's full episode on Run DMC, part two on Run DMC, I should say, is live and waiting for you.

Right now, number two. Rewind episodes this week, Britney Spears, part one, and part two. Number three, coming up at the top of next week, our new part two episode on The Temptations and the suspicious death of Tammy Terrell. Number four, over in Hollywood land right now, our episode on Joan Crawford, and that one is a banger. Number 5-617-9066638. Voicemail, text, get at me that way, or hit me at Disgracelandpot on Instagram, TikTok,

Facebook. Disgracelandpod at gmail.com to email me, your voice helps uncover what gets buried. Your takes propelling into the dark corners of music history. So keep them coming. Dig, baby, dig now that the night is over. Number six, don't forget discos. Like I said, this ain't just content. It's community, a community of the obsessed. And no one cares about music, books, records, and the crime and grime that ties them all together like you do.

And, well, that's a disgrace. All right, this week's new episode subject. Jam Master Jay from Run DMC passed away back on October 30th, 2002. And here is what America was listening to on that day, according to the Billboard charts. Number one, Dilemma, Nelly, featuring Kelly Rowland. Last week, one, peak position, one, weeks on chart, 16. Number two, Gangst Eleven, Eve, featuring Alicia Keys. Last week, three, peak position, two, weeks on churn, 16.

Number three, a moment like this, Kelly Clarkson, last week, two, peak position, one, weeks on churn, Number four, Hey Ma, Camera, featuring Jules Santana, Freaky Ziki, and Toya. Last week, four, peak position, four, weeks on churnies. Talking and start mixing. When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist, they take matters into their own hands. I vowed, I will be his last target. He is not going to get away with this.

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