DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode: The Definition of Cool, Influence Over Success, and FIDLAR

Episode Date: August 10, 2023

It's Velvet Underground week in Disgraceland, and Jake is wondering if they are the most influential rock band? Plus voicemails, texts, Keith Jarrett, FIDLAR, and the question: what are your favorite ...end-of-the-workday songs? Let Jake know at 617-906-6638, disgracelandpod@gmail.com, or on socials @disgracelandpod, and come join the After Party. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:02 Hey, discos, need a little more disgrace land in your life? Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the After Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the after party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party.
Starting point is 00:02:37 The bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. On this episode, we are talking about Velvet Underground, Fiddler's new Tom Petty cover, jazz, jazz, and more jazz, but especially Keith Jarrett's the rich and the poor. And of course, your voicemails, text, DMs, and more. and as always a whole lot of rosy. All right, discos, let's get. Yes, yes, yes, run, run.
Starting point is 00:03:10 I am waiting for my man, and you are here with me in the after party in this hour Velvet Underground week. Ladies and gentlemen, is there a more influential band than the Velvet Underground? I'm asking because this is the week where we release our full episode
Starting point is 00:03:23 on the Velvet Underground. We did two episodes on Lou Reed before a couple seasons ago, last season, but we're giving a whole episode to the full band right here. right now. And, you know, I ask, I got to ask, I got to ask, because I just, I literally don't know the answer. Is the Velvet Underground the most influential band of all time when it comes to guitar-driven, alternative-ish sounding music, okay? At least in the latter part of the 20th century.
Starting point is 00:03:52 So we're going to get into that, but I just want to say off the top here, if you're hearing something that sounds a little bit different, we're recording in a new space. We are building this new mobile studio here for a hot minute as I build a bigger, newer studio. So we're getting out the kinks here a little bit. So if it sounds different, that's what you're hearing. But let's get right into it, all right? I'm back. I'm psyched to be back. I took a week off from writing, from recording, from talking to you guys. I was traveling. Did a huge road trip of my family, about a week long. Stoked to be diving back into it here. So let's go back. All right? Let's hit this question of the Velvet Underground's influence. Let's go back in time, beginning now in.
Starting point is 00:04:31 in 2003 and tracing back the most impactful guitar-driven rock and roll bands beginning with, I don't know, who's the new young guitar rock band that's impacting youth culture? I would argue that there isn't one, but that's a whole other can of words and probably a whole other episode. But let's say Fiddler. Fiddler, how the hell you pronounce it? A band I can't shout up about it. I should know how to pronounce the name of their band.
Starting point is 00:04:53 This youngish guitar-driven, they're making in releasing music as we speak. So let's start with them. And then let's go back a couple more years. Let's go to the Black Keys. They're still releasing music. Black Keys are still selling out stadiums. And then let's keep driving in reverse. Jack White, the White Stripes, the Strokes.
Starting point is 00:05:12 All right, we just tore our ass backward in time to 2001 to the release of the first Strokes record to a time when rock and roll still mattered. But let's not stop there. Let's keep going. Okay? Let's keep going back in time from the strokes. Wilco to Radiohead to Flaming Lips to Nirvana, Guns and Roses, the cult, who else?
Starting point is 00:05:31 The pixies, the Jesus, Mary Chain, the Smith, the Cure. Can't forget about our English friends. And now we're back into the latter half of the 70s, the Clash, the Ramones, the New York Dolls, all the way back to the Velvet Underground. Again, let's list those bands in reverse order. Fiddler, Black Keys, White Stripes, the Strokes, Wilco, Radiohead, Flaming Lips, Nirvana, G&R, the cult,
Starting point is 00:05:54 the Pixies, the Jesus and Mary Chain, the Smith, the Cure, the Clash, the Ramones, New York Doll, shit. Might as well even throw the doors in, because the doors, along with the rest of these bands, went on to be majorly influential in their own right. And not only on the bands that came after them, but on their peers and on each other,
Starting point is 00:06:11 and all of those bands were directly influenced by the Velvet Underground. To say nothing of David Bowie, the Rolling Stones, Bruce Springsteen, and a handful of other heavies that in some ways, both big and small, all took inspiration from the Velvet Underground. But here's the thing. ask your average music fan to name three Velvet Underground songs, and they'd be hard pressed to do so.
Starting point is 00:06:35 I'm not judging. I'm just pointing out that the Velvet Underground, one of those bands that was way more influential than they were successful. I take it for granted, I think of them as being these huge icons of music history, and they are. They certainly are, but they're not like, you know, ask the layperson, like I said, off the street who the Velvet Underground are at least, like, you know, name three songs or or a couple albums, and they can't do that. So what is it?
Starting point is 00:06:59 What is it about the Velvet Underground that made that band so influential, but did not make them successful? To me, it boils down to one word. Cool. When I think cool, the image that most comes to mind, and this is so true, this is the God's honest truth. When I think of cool, the image that comes to mind is Lou Reed, frozen in black and white with that short hair,
Starting point is 00:07:24 those wraparound black sunglasses, the rest of the velvets standing around them on stage, statuesque, grotesque, androgynous, beautiful, all at the same time. It's rock and roll, but it's also art. It's all some sort of contrived put on that seems utterly effortless in totally New York. And not to take your wife and kids into town for the weekend to see a show version of New York, but in that dangerous downtown, take your life into your own hands to cop some dope kind of New York. The shit is compelling. Even Jim Morrison, who in the late 60s was cool incarnate to Middle America and the rest of the mainstream rock world, fell hard for the Velvet Underground.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Andy Warhol, of course, had a lot to do with this. And we get into that in the full episode. But most of this influence, most of this cool, it's due to the members of the band themselves. Even though Warhol was a swangali to be all spengalis, the members of the band, Lou Reed, John Kale, Sterling Morrison, and Mo Tucker, even Nico, they were all naturally cool beyond compare. You can see it in the images of the band, sure, like I mentioned, but more important, you can hear it in their playing. Depending on the members, sometimes it's virtuoso-like, as is the case with John Kale,
Starting point is 00:08:38 and sometimes completely amateur, as is the case with Nico and sometimes Mo Tucker, but it's never alienating. It's always perfect, pitch-perfect. Even when it's not pitch-perfect, it's pitch-perfect. It's always right on. it's always instinctually cool. The first time I heard the Velvet Underground, I was walking down the floor of my dorm on the first day,
Starting point is 00:09:01 my first day at Northeastern University. And I heard rock and roll, the song Rock and Roll, and I knew it was the Velvet Underground because I knew the Jane's Addiction version. And I knew that was a Velvet Underground cover, but I didn't actually know the Velvet Underground version. So I heard it. I was like, oh, this is cool.
Starting point is 00:09:15 This must be the Velvet Underground. So I go to the room where this is coming out of. There's two dudes in there smoking. of course. So I walk in, introduce myself, I smoke some hash. We listened to that whole Velvet Underground record just fucking blew my mind and I've been hooked ever since. And there's that danger to it, right? That, that I hate to sound juvenile, adolescent and cheesy, but there's just something, the culture of it that I'm in on something special. I'm in on something unique. I'm in on something that that person over there is not in on. That is cool. And I cannot
Starting point is 00:09:54 define it. If I could define it, it wouldn't actually be cool. So stupid question of the week, who is the most influential rock band of all time? Is it the Velvet Underground? I can already hear people screaming back in me into their speaker. No, you idiot, it's the Stooges. It's the Stooges. So if so, if that's true, why? Why is it Iggy? Why is it Iggy Pop and the Stoges and not Lou and the Melvets, or is it the stones? You come at me with the Beatles, if you think so, the Pixies, Nirvana. Who is the most influential rock band of all time and why? Let me know, 617-906-66-6638.
Starting point is 00:10:27 Leave a voicemail, send me a text with your answers, or hit me on the socials at Disgraceland Pod. I'm back after this with your voicemails and your texts and your DMs. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And Rule 2, never mess with her friends either. We always say that, trust your girlfriends.
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Starting point is 00:11:29 I vowed I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark.
Starting point is 00:11:55 When, like, young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever, my first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? Rather be disappointed in. Do that. Dennis Leary. I wake up and I'm hitting him in the head with a water bomb.
Starting point is 00:12:12 And Bruce Jenner is on the aisle in a karate stance. Like he's about to attack me. Like making karate noises. And his entire the Kardashian family over there, everybody's going. And the air marshal is trying to grab my arms and screaming. I immediately know that I've been asleep walking. David O'Yellowo. I love this podcast, whether or
Starting point is 00:12:33 it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Guy Branham. So anyway, Nicole Kimman broke up with Keith Thurban. Being half of a country couple was always a hat she was going to wear, not like a life she was going to lead. Oh, interesting. I like that. Did you practice that on your way over? Gaten Matarazzo from Stranger Things. Tena, Mongeau. Camilla Morone at Carrie Kenny Silver. and more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Remember when you'd walk into your local video rental place and there were always those two employees behind the counter arguing about movies?
Starting point is 00:13:19 Well, that's us. I'm Millie de Cherico. And I'm Casey O'Brien. And now we're arguing about movies on our podcast, Dear Movies I Love You from the Exactly Right Network. Can I say something about the criterion closet? Go ahead, dude. They're letting, many people in there. Okay, that's another film, grape I got two. Sadly, that rental place doesn't exist anymore. It's probably a store that sells running shoes. Or an ice cream shop with an extra pee and an E at the end. So consider us your slacker movie clerks in podcast form.
Starting point is 00:13:49 I would like to establish a timeline of the moment you figured out who Channing Tatum was. Every Tuesday, we dig into the movies we can't stop obsessing over. From hidden gems to big screen favorites. New episodes drop every week on the Exactly Right Network. Listen to Dear Movies I Love You on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All righty then, let's get into your voicemails. Let's get into your text, hot on the heels of last week's Sunny Rollins episode. We got this voicemail from Anne in the 303.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Hey, Jay, also known as Redhead One from Instagram. I am your New York Scorsese and Bjork connection. I've connected with you a few times. I wanted to leave you a voicemail after listening to your episode yesterday, and I'm excited for the Sunny Rollins episode today. Most definitely a jazz head, and I have some suggestions for you. Start with some Dave Brubeck, particularly Take Five. That's a great album, you'll dig.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Vince Goraldi, no, he did not just do the Charlie Brown Christmas special. He had a trio in the early 60s that is really great straight ahead jazz. West Montgomery jazz guitarist, also from the 60s. Very, very good, very chill. And finally, Stan gets incredible saxophonist. Very weird dude he might be worth looking into for an episode. Very strange guy. But an incredible saxophonist, and he's responsible for bringing Basanova to the
Starting point is 00:15:47 US from Brazil in the 60s. Also, to tie into a bad lands question, which is favorite summer movie, I'm going to go with a music doc. So I'm tying into two questions. Jazz on a summer's day. If you've never seen it, man, check it out. I know you did a performance at the Newport Folk Festival. This is the Newport Jazz Festival from 1958. everybody is in it.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Louis Armstrong, et cetera, et cetera. Check it out. Jazz on a summer's day. Love everything you do. I've had nice interactions with you previously. And I just want to say, keep doing what you're doing. And check out some jazz. Have a wonderful day, rockerola.
Starting point is 00:16:38 All right. And I appreciate the call. Sike to hear from you again. I love Dave Brubach. Okay. I think he's great, and you'll appreciate this. I heard this really funny story about Dave Rubeck recently. I can't remember where I heard it.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Some documentary or something. I think it might have been the Tom Petty Doc. I'm not sure. But basically, Dave Bruback ends up meeting President Bill Clinton, okay? And Bill Clinton, while he's president, I believe, I believe this is while he was president, says to Dave Brubach, oh, I'm a huge fan. I love your music. And Brubach goes, yeah, name three.
Starting point is 00:17:14 records. That just fucking killed me. Just imagine you're meeting the president. And the president is like, I love you. And you call him out. You challenge him. And apparently Clinton did it. Apparently Bill Clinton could do it. So the story goes. Who the hell knows if that's true or not? But whatever, I love it. I also love Vince Geraldi. A friend of mine from Noble Records, this record shop in North Carolina I sent me a, uh, sent me a bunch of records. And he sent me this, this Vince Duraldi record called, uh, Black Orpheus. Jazz Impressions of Black Gorphus. That's the full title.
Starting point is 00:17:51 I fucking love it. Um, I'm sure you know, uh, and I'm sure you know about the, the Vince Duraldi, Grateful Dead Connection, San Francisco guys. I once saw this cool picture of Vince with some of the guys, Jerry and the rest of the dead. They're just hanging out. Very cool. Um, yeah, West Montgomery. I got to get into it.
Starting point is 00:18:11 it hit me up with an album. Where do I start? There's so much. I hear it on mixes. I always love it. I always remind myself to go back to it. I never go back to him. So just let me know what full link to check out. And speaking of jazz, oh yeah, I also have not seen jazz on a summer's day despite playing at the Newport. Folk Festival last year and attending the jazz festival many times. I still haven't seen that. Thanks for reminding me. Jazz on a summer's day is what Anne is talking about. It's a great documentary about jazz musicians, Newport Fol. excuse me, Newport Jazz Fest in particular. And speaking of Jazz Ann and New York City, where you're from, your hometown, looks like I will
Starting point is 00:18:50 be at a famous jazz venue in New York in September doing an event. It's not my event. It's a musician friend of mine that will be announced shortly. I'm almost 100% confirmed. It's going to be some heavy hitters involved too. It should be a lot of fun. I'll let you know about that. I'll let everyone know about that when it comes up.
Starting point is 00:19:09 All right, Ann, thanks for the call. Okay, prior to our Sunny Rollins episode, we released a full episode on Merle Haggard, and that prompted a bunch of country conversation, so let's hear this voicemail from the 859. Hey, Jake, this is Roger from Dry Ridge, Kentucky. I've listened to pretty much all your episodes. Love most of them. But I feel that you're long overdue for a Wayland Jennings episode. When it comes to the outlaw, badass country music, you don't get more outlaw. law badass country than Wayland Jennings, and I would love to hear one on Lane Staley from Allison Chains. Keep up the great work. Peace out. I hear you, man. Roger, there will be a Waylon Jennings episode. This is now become—waylan has become one of the most requested subjects for Disgraceland. I did do a YouTube story on him. You can check that out. That's at our YouTube.com slash at Disgraceland Pod. And that was, that was a—that was a—that was
Starting point is 00:20:10 is this whole connection to the cocaine bear. You can check that story out there. I think the episode that I do, however, will be much more far-reaching than what we did on YouTube. But that's not going to be anytime soon. In the future, just not in the near future. All right, so we get the YouTube thing to tide over your whaling, excuse me, Waylon Jennings Jones.
Starting point is 00:20:32 All right. Still on the country. Tip, let's check out this voicemail from the 810. Hey, Jake, for the disgrace-sland topic of good biophics and stuff like that on music artists and stuff like that. I still think it's probably one of my favorites to walk the line, but I got to say, like, your Johnny Cash episode kind of changes the perspective a little bit when you watch that movie and makes you think a little differently. And then on top of that, when we brought this up, it got me thinking, and I was just doing some Google searching around, and I stumbled upon a documentary called My Darling Vivian that came out a few years ago about Johnny Cash. his first wife, and that also just, like, totally changes your perspective and outlook on
Starting point is 00:21:15 Johnny Cash and stuff like that. So keep it real, man. Rockerola. Hi. Dave, I love the Johnny Cash, Walk the Line biopic. I think it's one of the better ones, and I go into it with a open mind, went into it with an open mind when I watched it, and when it's on, and I rewatch it, I do the same thing. You know, the bottom line is you've only got 90 minutes or at most two hours to tell the story of these artists. It's why I love what I do in disgrace land because I am not, I mean, I have 30 minutes or sometimes I can do double episodes or whatever, but I'm not stuck to the sort of three-act screenwriting format. And I don't have to
Starting point is 00:21:58 hit the same beats that you have to hit in a multimillion dollar budgeted film. And so I kind of feel for the filmmakers in a lot of way, but I think that Johnny Cash one in particular, did a really good job. There's been some really bad ones. I don't want to shit talk any of them, but we know what they are. The bottom line is these artists, especially an artist like Johnny Cash, there's so much to cover. There's so much these lives that they live, his life in particular, he lives such a full life. And, you know, when you're talking about our side of the street here, what we do, you, me, the sort of music and true crime stuff, it's, there's so much to cover when it comes to Johnny Cash. When I first started researching Johnny Cash for that episode,
Starting point is 00:22:38 you were talking about, Dave, my initial thought was, and I almost did it, I got into pre-production with it, and I was like, this is a 10-episode series. This is far more than one episode, and I ended up only doing one for reasons that I won't go into. But I do think down the line, there's a larger Johnny Cash story for me to tell. But yeah, thanks for the call.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Dave, appreciate that. Let's check out Wendy from the 415. Hey there. I'm kind of new. but I love the show and I know this is a little late but I've been concentrating on Taylor Swift my name's Wendy
Starting point is 00:23:16 from 415 and yeah I'm the same generation as you but I've been doing some deep diving and I totally realized why she has a female like cult mostly female because she's strong but vulnerable and like women have such low self-esteem
Starting point is 00:23:34 and she's saying things that girls feel and they can't say and I don't know I just I kind of I really get it it's like a voice for girls and women and and to not be ashamed of it
Starting point is 00:23:49 or be like oh this is stupid this is weak or whatever it's like she has issues with her self-esteem but then goes out there like a rock star and as a business woman
Starting point is 00:24:02 as a songwriter in pop yeah it's just a tornado like and then with social media so i just want to give my two friends on there um because i kind of didn't understand it at first i mean i understood her but not like this complete nuttiness but yeah the little girls are growing up i guess so take care left the show and yeah congrats bye wendy thanks from the call i hear you it's uh it's powerful stuff i appreciate your insight into Ms. Swift and her fans.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Thank you for listening. Appreciate the new listeners. All right, let's check out a couple more here. This one from the 808. Well, number one, I want to know how many takes it took to get that fucking fast at each down at the end. But beyond that, I didn't realize it. It's Curtis from Connecticut.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Dude, you have to just do Gangstar. Gangstar has one of the coolest stories for up and coming and being a legend that's not spoken highly of, or highly regarded by a lot of people. Very underrated, hands down, one of the best. Gangstar, one of the best yet. Curtis, my man, where do I start with Gangstar? Where?
Starting point is 00:25:17 What's the book? What's the doc? What's the music? What's the magazine article? Where's the angle? Let me know. Hit me back. 617-90666-36-38.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Appreciate the message. Johnny from the 207. Let's hear from you. Jake. Hampshire, man. And, hey, thanks for the play. And, you know, honestly, thank you for giving a shit who we are. Like, that's pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Like, I, I, I, it would be so easy for you to just be like, ah, whatever, the listeners, and fuck them, all I need, you know, just listen to my thing and shut up. But, we're an inclusive. Just not a better term, I feel like, um, when the Tasmanian devil, just kind of turns into a whirling dervish. Like, this whole show is just like a crazy musical whirling dervish. people and listening and different.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Help the good work. My minute. This is Jeremy. Cha-cha. That's right, man. Community. That's what we're building. That's what we're doing here.
Starting point is 00:26:42 I don't know what else to say. Keep listening. Keep calling. Keep texting. Keep telling me what you guys want. Keep telling me what you like, what you dislike, what you want to hear, what you want me to create. I am here for it. 617-906-66-6-6-38.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Voicemail and text. Speaking of text, let's get into some text right now. All right, from the 707, the 707 writes in, please make an April Fool's episode about Millie Vanilli. I can't think of a crime to tie them to, but that's what researchers are for. On a more serious note, I would love a White Stripes Jack White episode. His album with Loretta Lynn is excellent if you haven't heard it. 707, I have heard it.
Starting point is 00:27:22 I have heard that record. I think it's real good. I think an episode, I've always thought there was a Jack White episode there. He's so fucking prickly, though. I'm just worried, you know. I don't want that dude freaking out or whatever. All right, let's see. What else we got here?
Starting point is 00:27:36 From the 706, I just heard your rant on U2, The Undertones, and Thin Lizzie. I totally groove on Thin Lizzie with you, and you two has always kind of sucked. But that's a big statement. But I wonder why you completely forgot Flogging Molly. Well, I completely forgot Flogging Molly because I forget shit, man. Dave King put some amazing shit together that you should give them a try. And if I'm being honest, I'm not that familiar with Flogging Molly's catalog, but I appreciate the prompt and I'm going to go check that out. Let's see what else we got here from the 802. Jeff from
Starting point is 00:28:08 the 802, awesome duet to check out Iggy Pop and Kate Pearson Candy. I agree with you 802. It is great. 260 writes in, hey, Jake, Rob from the 260. You were asking about times that Pop Monsters shared the mic. I got a recent one that I'm sure you probably heard about. July 15th, that's real recent, Rob. July 15th, Rob says, 2003, Rob says. Ford Field and Detroit says Rob. Rob. Michigan says Rob. I was one of the lucky 70,000 plus that night that saw M&M, freaking M&M, pop up under Ed Shearing's mathematics stage. The place absolutely erupted. You couldn't even hear Marshall spitting until the chorus came back around. After we all lost ourselves, the duo hit us with a killer rendition of Stan before M left the stage with a giant middle finger to the entire arena.
Starting point is 00:28:54 It was legendary. Now that's my kind of text. Love that. Love that. Also, I've worked my way around on Eminem. Old school disgrace land fans will know what I'm talking about. Okay. Hey, Jake, Matthew here from the 717. I was able to snag a copy. And he's got a picture here, Fishbone's Truth and Soul on Vinyl. Damn.
Starting point is 00:29:18 I need that. I need that. I need that record on vinyl. Where'd you get that, 9-28? Where'd you get that, Matthew? Why does your number say 9-28, but you're saying you're from the 7-17? I don't understand. Anyways, more importantly, nice grab.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Uh, 646, in my opinion, Stevie Wonder's impact culturally supersedes princes. You talk about a brother from another planet. That is from my buddy from the 646. Uh, does Stevie Wonder impact culture? Did he more than Prince? It's a good question. I don't know the answer. Uh, 612.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Eric from Minneapolis. Top duet. I go straight to Nick Cave and Kylie Minogue. Eric says a lot. I'm going to skim through this. He also says, Today you asked for the best musician in the talent versus craft episode. It's not possible.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Best guitarist, Andrew Ballou, no question of his impact and creativity. But is he as good as Jimmy Page, Django, Reinhardt, Stanley, Jordan, or freaking Michael Hedges? This is what led me to my favorite slash greatest system, which is, number one, my all-time overarching favorite. Number two, my favorite is shown by who I listen to the most. Three, who am I into right now? Example in the best favorite band category all-time is the residence. Number two, most listened to is wean, damn. Number three, right now I'm super digging vistas from Scotland.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Sorry for going on. I was going to call, but I'm sick as heck and can't talk so swell. Keep making the quality you do. It is appreciated. You got it, Eric. Thanks for that message. Yeah, man. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:30:47 I don't know. I'm going to keep going. There's a lot there. All right, one more here. Here we go. Hey, Jake. It's from Lance Valis. Not sure if my Facebook messenger message got through.
Starting point is 00:30:58 I thought I'd send you the same one via text. by request some essential jazz listening. Lee Morgan, the sidewinder. I have it, it's awesome. Benny Golson, the Philadelphia, it's never heard of it. We'll check it out. Dave Bruback, time out.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Have it, listen to it. Awesome. West Montgomery smoking at the half note. Well, I asked earlier what the West Montgomery album to get into, and I guess I have my answer here. Charlie Christian, genius of the electric guitar. I got the impression you were looking for acoustic jazz, but a couple of excellent electric jazz fusion records are.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Light is a feather return to forever spectrum. Corbyn, very eagerly awaiting an Elliot Smith episode. I used to live in the Boston area, and I might be totally misremembering this, but did you used to host an open mic or something like that at the Brendan Bean and Jamaica playing like 20, 25 years ago? No, I did not. They're not host an open mic. Give me some fucking credit, man.
Starting point is 00:31:47 But my dad did have a residency, not an open mic, at the Brendan Bean, about 30 years ago, and I talked about that on one of the recent after-party episodes. You must have just missed it. All right. So, then's the text is. Okay, 617-906-66-6-6-38. Leave me a text, send me a voicemail at this Grace-lam pod with the DMs. I will get to you on direct message shortly, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter.
Starting point is 00:32:11 This bonus episode is turning out to be super long. So we're going to do the DMs next week. Take one quick break back in a flash. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. Emerald 2, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends.
Starting point is 00:32:46 I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends... Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no.
Starting point is 00:33:07 I vowed. I will be his last time. target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark.
Starting point is 00:33:33 When, like, young people come up to me and they want to be an act or whatever. My first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? Rather be disappointed in. Do that. Dennis Leary. I wake up and I'm hitting him in the head with a water bomb. And Bruce Jenner is on the aisle in a karate stance. Like he's about to attack me.
Starting point is 00:33:55 Like, making karate noises. And the entire the Kardashian family over there, everybody's going. And the air marshal is trying to grab my arms and screaming. I immediately know that I've been asleep walking. David O'Yellow-I. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Guy Branham.
Starting point is 00:34:19 So anyway, Nicole Kimman broke up with Keith Thurban. Being half of a country couple was always a hat she was going to wear, not like a life she was going to lead. Oh, interesting. I like that. Did you practice that on your way over? Gaten Matarazzo from Stranger Things. Tena Monsu.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Camilla Morone, Carrie Kenny Silver. And more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the IHeart Radio app, podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Kate Winkler Dawson, host of the Wicked Words podcast. Each week I sit down with the true crime writers behind some of the most compelling true crime stories and discuss their years spent investigating and why it still matters. He sees his father coming out of the woods with his hands over his face and he knows
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Starting point is 00:35:58 The recommendations part. This is the recommendations part. The part where we recommend the things that need recommending the recommendations part, what I've been listening to. So, as you can tell, I've been listening to a lot of jazz. I mentioned the Vince Duraldi album above. Also been listening to Keith Jarrett. Dude is a massive discography.
Starting point is 00:36:15 But for me, it's all about the album Treasure Island right now, specifically the lead off track, the rich and the poor. Quite possibly, one, if not the greatest end of the workday songs that I've ever heard. It screams, take a load off, and crack a cold can of beer. Makes me instantly feel like I'm like some fucking hard-boiled detective in a suit that I haven't taken off in three weeks. And, you know, I'm in some 70s crime thriller. I just walked into my shitty studio apartment in the village and I'm on the hunt for something wet and cold to fucking drown my day. I love this song. Check it out. Keith Jarrett, the rich and the poor,
Starting point is 00:36:50 and for Keith Jarrett heads out there. And I know you're out there. I know there's some heavy jazz dudes out there, some major dudes. Let me know where to go next with Keith Jarrett. There's so much of it, okay? 617-906-66-66-38. Also, what are your holy shit work is finally done and I need a beer songs? What song do you reach for when work is done and you're reaching for a cold one? Let me know.
Starting point is 00:37:10 617-906-66-36-3-8. Is that specific enough for you? I have a feeling we're going to get a lot more classic country incoming on this one. Let me know your favorite after-work songs. All right? I'm also listening to Fiddler's new single cover of Tom Petty's Free Fallen. This is on the heels of the band's recent cover of Limp Biscuits Nookie. Not sure what these guys are up to you, but I am here for it. Keep the fucked up covers coming,
Starting point is 00:37:33 guys. Anyone knows this band. Let them know how much I love them. We'd love to talk to them. I love this band so much. I wish I was in it. And that's saying something because I really have zero desire to ever be in a band again. It's a hard life. You guys know this. But as the kids say, fuck it, dude. Life is rad. We asked a couple bonus episodes ago, what were the best non-music biopic music movies? And a lot of you wrote in Fast Times of Ridgemont High. And I got to say, this might be my top choice as well, was on TCM recently.
Starting point is 00:38:00 I think it was TCM. And I can't not watch this when it's on. I can't skip through it. I can't change the channel. So I watched it. And it was the beginning. It was great. Bradley, you know, he's in the cruising vessel,
Starting point is 00:38:12 cruising into the parking lot in that opening scene or one of the opening scenes. It just, this movie is one of those great movies where it doesn't matter what the song is. The photography is so good. The visuals are so great that, you know, this is like, I didn't give a shit about Jackson Brown when I was a kid, but this movie made me give a shit about Jackson Brown. That's how good this movie is. I'm not telling you anything you don't know, but if it's, by chances, any young kids listening to this and you're just like, you've heard of this movie, but you have not seen it. Go watch it. Run. Watch Fast Times of Ridgemont High. 617-906-66-3. If you have any more non-biopic music movies to recommend, also let me know
Starting point is 00:38:47 what your favorite afterwork tune is to crack a cold one too. Let me know and check out The Rich and the Poor by Keith Jarrett at Disgraceland Pod on the social 617-906-66-6638. I'm back in a flash with some Zen. All right, let's recap, shall we, number one. Velvet Underground is the latest episode of Disgraceland. It is in your feeds right now. Number two.
Starting point is 00:39:20 We've got a new season of Badlands just launched with an episode on Johnny Depp that is available in the Badlands feed this week. We are dropping this episode. It's a season launch. So we're dropping it into the disgrace land feed as well. But guys, this show, the show, the episodes on Hollywood figures, on actors and actresses, that is Badlands. That is not Disgraceland.
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Starting point is 00:41:20 discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist, they take matters into their own hands. I vowed, I will be his last target.
Starting point is 00:41:30 He is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves. We always say that trust your girlfriends. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When, like, young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever.
Starting point is 00:42:00 And my first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? Rather be disappointed in. Do that. David O'Yello-O. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or a relationship. relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Dennis Leary, Gaten Moderato from Stranger Things, Tana Monsu, Camilla Morone, Carrie Kenny Silver, and more.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Movies can make you feel, make you dream. Sometimes they even make you appreciate architecture. Is there anybody? who's been hotter in a doorway than Elizabeth Taylor. That's the kind of analysis you'll find every week on Dear Movies I Love You, the new podcast from the Exactly Right Network. Every Tuesday, we break down the films we're crushing on, from blockbusters to deep cuts.
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