DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode: The Epstein Files and Every Musician Mentioned In Them (We Think)

Episode Date: February 19, 2026

There are countless musicians mentioned in the “Epstein Files”; a dozen or so are bold-faced names. A whole lot more are not. Some of the mentions are innocuous, a few of the mentions are ...highly suspicious, and all of them require context, something painfully missing from the social discourse at the moment. Have no fear, though, we’re giving it to you straight, from Jack White to Mick Jagger, and Jimmy Buffett, Elton John, and more—we make sense of the rockstars named in the Epstein Files. Plus, as always, your voicemails, texts, and correspondence. For more great Disgraceland stories, check out our extensive archive, including episodes like: Episode 151 - U2 Episode 51 - Jay Z  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 This is exactly right. Double Elvis. Hey, Discos, need a little more disgrace land in your life? Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the After Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode.
Starting point is 00:00:44 A little thing we like to call the after party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. Our mission to uncover the truth to confront the myth to reclaim the story on this bonus episode. We're digging into all the musicians mentioned in the Epstein Files, also talking a little bit about Hunter S. Thompson,
Starting point is 00:01:05 previewing Bob Weir in Bohemian Grove, and we get into your emails, comments, DMs, and as always, a whole lot of rosy. This is the podcast through the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers, who know that the best history is the history that gets buried. Disgracelings where I tell the stories they didn't want told, the kind you'll end up telling someone else.
Starting point is 00:01:25 All right, this goes, let's get into it. Okay, guys, Jay-Z is in the Epstein Files and Jack White. So is Kurt Cobain, Bono, McJagger, Courtney Love, Michael Jackson, R. Kelly, Bruce Springsteen, both Elvis's, Presley, Anne Costello, Lisa Marie Presley, Elton John, Janice Joplin. There's a recent list that the Department of Justice put out there a couple days ago. They don't say that it's an exhaustive. list of all the sort of bold-faced names mentioned in the Epstein files, but they kind of
Starting point is 00:02:12 intimate that. The list of companies, what they say, what the Department of Justice says, is their final release of all of the Epstein information that DOJ had that they were compelled to release by law from Congress. It's troubling for a number of different reasons. There's a lot of rock stars on this list. And the troubling part is that people see these names and they go, oh, no, Kirk Cobain, please, no, Kirk Cobain, the Epstein files. I love Kirk Cobain. Like, there can't be, please tell me he wasn't at Epstein Island.
Starting point is 00:02:51 You know what I mean? That makes no sense. Kirk Cobain would never be at Epstein Island for a gazillion different reasons, not to mention the timing historically of everything. But a lot of people do not understand what these files are. And when you do understand what they are and what they aren't, which is just as important, you can understand how anybody's name could be in these files. We're talking about millions, millions, millions of documents, okay?
Starting point is 00:03:18 So what I want to do in this episode is I want to go through the musicians that are mentioned. And I want to just sort of tag them by the context. And, you know, what do we think of this? based on the context. Because the last thing we need to be doing is running around going, oh no, Bruce Springsteen's a pedophile because he's mentioned in the, in the Epstein files. Like that makes no friggin' sense. Yet, somehow, that's the world we're in right now. Okay? On the other hand, there is some compelling information regarding some artists, some musicians that deserves some unwrapping here in the context of the Epstein files,
Starting point is 00:04:00 pertaining to their culpability, their alleged guilt, their interaction with the FBI, et cetera. Okay, so we're going to get into a bunch of this right now. We're going to get into a little bit more of it next week when we do the Bob Weir episode. That'll be Grateful Dead Part 3, new episode on Bob Weir and the relationship of the Epstein file. What the Epstein files tell us about Bohemian Grove. Okay. But for right now, we're going to focus on the musicians in the Epstein files. And just before we do that, little house cleaning, this week, we released into the wide feed our Hunter S. Thompson episode. Hunter was not, I don't know, maybe he was in the Epstein Files. I didn't search for him. I will. And this week, the rewind episode, we're featuring our episode on The Clash. So check those two out. And then next week, like I said, we're going to have our Bob Weir episode, Part 3, Grateful Dead. And when you're listening to that episode, I want to know your take on Bob Weir's involvement.
Starting point is 00:05:00 with Bohemian Grove. Okay, I'm clearly giving you mine. I want to know yours. Do you agree with my take? Do you have your own? Do you think I'm crazy? Get at me 617-90666-638 voicemail and text or just hit me up at gmail.com to let me know. Now, back to musicians, rock stars in the Epstein files. First of all, what are the Epstein files and what aren't the Epstein files? All right? What the files are? They are literally millions upon millions of government documents that the Department of Justice has in its position or had, I guess, because they've made it public. So now we all have it. and there's some debate over whether or not they've released everything. I personally cannot tell. I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:05:45 I don't understand it. Okay, I'm just saying that right now. But what I do understand? There's millions and millions and millions of government documents that have been released by the Department of Justice pertaining to disgraced financier and convicted sex offender and friend to many, many, many powerful and famous people, Jeffrey Epstein. These Epstein files, what they're not is a definitive sort of case closed, here's the file, here's what happened. You know, it's not even close to that. In fact, it's the exact opposite of that.
Starting point is 00:06:18 What the files are, they include a gazillion emails to and from Jeffrey Epstein to his friends, many of them bold-faced names that you've heard of, plus his texts. and they also include a mass, the files also include a massive trove of documents and reports from Department of Justice officials, mainly FBI agents on Jeffrey Epstein, plus email and text exchanges between agents discussing Epstein, discussing the case, discussing the investigation. Now included in these conversations are FBI agents discussing Jeffrey Epstein's victims and the victim's allegations. A lot of these victims are anonymous.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Their names are redacted. And again, it's important to remember that at the point these conversations in the Epstein files are taking place, they're just, in a lot of cases, they're just conversations. So just because a couple of FBI agents are discussing criminal allegations,
Starting point is 00:07:23 that does not mean, in some cases anyways, that any evidence, has been collected to substantiate the claims. Okay, imagine a cop show. You got two FBI agents talking about something they're investigating. That's essentially what a lot of this is. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:41 This, the Epstein files are a lot. It's just a dump. It is a dump of information, a massive amount of information. And there's very little sort of like, nothing's really wrapped in a bow or has been wrapped in a bow. Okay? to the extent that there's an investigation, I mean, I don't even know what it is.
Starting point is 00:08:02 The guy was in jail. He was going to go on trial. He's dead. You know, now it's just like, release the files. Release the files come out. And it's just like, we're just like being waterboarded with information. And it's like, okay, Bono's name and Kirk Cobain's hand, you know, Bruce Springsteen and Janice Joplin and R. Kelly, Jay Z. You know what do you mean?
Starting point is 00:08:23 It's like, I said, there's a certain amount of people out there who think that just because their names, people's names are in these files, that that means that they're guilty. That they're guilty of something. You know, and in some cases, maybe they are. But in a lot of cases, they aren't. And this isn't meant to be something where I'm defending these rock stars because I'm a fan of rock music or whatever, or these artists. That's not what this is. I'm just trying to make this mess a little bit cleaner for us to understand. So let's get a couple facts out of the way real quick. For the record, Jeffrey Epstein was convicted in 2008 of procuring a child for prostitution and for soliciting prostitution. He did some time, cushy time, like real cushy time.
Starting point is 00:09:07 In 2019, Epstein was arrested and charged with sex trafficking and he died in prison, officially from suicide, but unofficially, come on. Back to my point. Just because an individual is mentioned in the Jeffrey Epstein files, that doesn't really mean anything. Context is everything. Context is everything. Okay? Many, many, many people are mentioned. Lots of them famous and powerful, some of them guilty as sin, though most of them are innocent, just on balance, law of averages. We're talking three million documents or something like that. For this conversation, I'm focused on the musicians mentioned in the files. All right? If you want information on the rich and powerful from the Epstein files,
Starting point is 00:09:52 talking about torture videos and talking in code about pizza and grape soda, you can get my thoughts on that in next week's Grateful Dead episode on Bob Weir, like I mentioned. Okay, that episode, that episode looks at the connection between the Epstein files and Bohemian Grove. This episode looks at the musicians in the files
Starting point is 00:10:12 and like all the names in the files, I believe that some of these people are guilty and some of them are innocent. And just to note, the title of this episode is the Epstein files and every musician mentioned in them, we think. It would be impossible. It would take years to list all of the musicians mentioned in the Epstein files. In part because the files include emails,
Starting point is 00:10:34 Epstein receives from publicists and events and venues that are advertising concerts and shows. Okay, so like, I mean, come on. You could literally be like, who's a beloved musician, Ringo Star? You could literally find Ringo Starr's name in the Epstein files as part of some venue advertisement. And you could factually claim that Ringo Starr is in the Epstein files. It doesn't mean shit is my point.
Starting point is 00:11:01 However, some of these names, some of these mentions do in fact, may in fact, I should say, mean shit. Mean some things. Okay. Justice.gov slash Epstein slash search. That's where you can go. Anyone can go. That's where I went. anyone can search the Epstein files. It's pretty fascinating. Now, not only did I search for the rock stars
Starting point is 00:11:24 and the musicians on the actual list that the Department of Justice released over the past weekend, but I also did keyword searches. I searched for musician. I search for rock star. To my knowledge, the musicians we're going to discuss here are the prominent musicians, the household names, if you will, that are mentioned in the files. And there's a ton of musicians also in some of these emails with Epstein, who you've likely never heard of. It's kind of sad, actually. They're hitting him up for cash, trying to get on his radar, kissing his ass. Some he responds to. Some he not only offers to help, but he does indeed help, offers to pay this one woman, I'm presuming her name is redacted. She signs the email with kisses, so I'm assuming it's a woman musician who's in some sort of
Starting point is 00:12:14 competition and Epstein offers to pay her cash, 10 grand in cash if she advances. She's clearly interested in that. There's another musician, a guy who's of some note who I've never heard of before, a piano player. I'm not going to mention his name because I don't want to impugn the guy in any way. And anyways, Epstein is quite taken with his playing and he emails the president of Bard University on behalf of this musician to get him on the radar for her. who knows what. But this is what Epstein, this is what Epstein did. He connected people. He made that
Starting point is 00:12:49 his business. He was a sex trafficker, yes. And I know there's some debate over, over, over that, over whether or not he was actually trafficking women, depending on what the actual definition of sex trafficking is. I don't give a fuck what the official definition of sex trafficking is. It's very clear from these files that Jeffrey Epstein was trafficking women, okay? He's also trafficking star fuckers and celebrities. This is a great article I read in Fortune Magazine over the weekend. And it talks, it's, they quote one of the people who worked for Epstein at his home in New York, I believe. And they talk about these events that he would hold where he basically had the same, the same path, the same group of people, types of people for these, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:40 afternoon meetings or morning meetings. And it would be. Epstein, it would be somebody famous from the world of arts and culture, you know, like a Robert De Niro or a, I'm not saying Robert De Niro specifically, but an actor, an actress, et cetera, or a musician in some cases. You know, someone like you'd walk in the room, you'd be like, oh, shit, that guy. Damn, I'm having coffee with this guy. All right, I didn't know that. And then there'd be somebody like a tech, a tech titan of industry, like a Bill Gates type, you know, somebody big, like, or even like some big kind of influencer in sort of the health space or the tech space, like Peter Attia, something like that. And then there'd be a beautiful woman, young woman, typically of age, but still young, 19-ish.
Starting point is 00:14:32 And she would be laser-focused on the final person at the meeting who would be the mark. The person that Epstein was trying to bring into his circle for whatever reason. usually somebody of note, okay? And that the woman would, you know, have her laser focus on this person. And, you know, lots of things happened. Sometimes I was actually reading an article about this sort of like honey trap structure that Epstein had. And the person sniffed it out and didn't fall for it.
Starting point is 00:15:04 But this happened a lot. You can read about it in the files. You read a lot in the files. Just go to, like I said, justice.gov slash Epstein slash. search. But again, Epstein, my point, Epstein, unlike anyone I've ever come across in any of my research, just a major networker and starfucker who literally considered himself a master of the universe. And he was connected to people at the highest, highest levels. Okay. So, you know, for us, you know, Mick Jagger is like the highest level.
Starting point is 00:15:43 but I'm talking about like sultans. I'm talking about Bill Gates, etc. That level. Huge. Elon Musk. Okay? And again, just because the name is in here, just because these people may have been
Starting point is 00:15:59 in contact with this guy, you got to look at the context. And that's what we're going to do. So again, there are a ton of musicians in these files. And we're going to go through just the bigger names. Okay? Mc Jagger, Michael Jackson, Kirk Covey, and Bruce Springsteen.
Starting point is 00:16:13 I even searched Chester Bennington, all right, and Chris Cornell. All right, we're going to discuss each mention of every prominent musician in the Epstein file so we come back right after this. All right, guys, given how much information there is here in this topic for this bonus episode, I usually do right here at the top of the C block, I usually do your voicemails and text and emails. We're going to do that later. We're going to do that in the D block.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Okay. I'm going to dive back in here to Mr. Epstein and his musical friends. first of all a lot of you i assume are going to be disappointed to know that neither chester bennington or chris cornell are in the epstein files in any way okay so conspiracy theorists make what you will out of that not one mention for either artists all right i'm going to blast through these names these mentions and i'm going to give you some context now keep in mind the year 2008 that's important because everything that geoffrey epstein does after 2008 he's doing as a known convicted sex offender, one who was sentenced. And again, who did time, albeit cushy time, very cushy
Starting point is 00:17:38 time for procuring child prostitution. Everyone who came in contact with Jeffrey Epstein after 2008 and everybody he contacted after 2008 presumably knew this information. I mean, how could they not? All right. Now, first of all, Elton John. Elton John is. mentioned in the files. And the context, it appears to me, is that Jeffrey Epstein is trying to scam his way into Elton's 2014 Academy Awards viewing party. The email exchange flows from, from a couple different women who appear to be publicist working on Epstein's behalf, one of whom is Peggy Siegel, a PR juggernaut, okay? In these emails, she claims to be emailing David Furnished directly, Elton's husband. And it appears,
Starting point is 00:18:29 that Epstein got his wish. He was giving passes to the event because the exchange, the email exchange goes on to talk about dress code for the event and all types of stuff. So that's interesting, 2014.
Starting point is 00:18:43 The one thing that makes, it makes very clear here, Jeffrey Epstein in no way suffered socially from his conviction in 2008. I mean, things were just chugging along for this guy on the social circuit
Starting point is 00:18:56 after he was unknown, convicted, sex offender, mind-blowing. Speaking of the publicist, Peggy Siegel, there are numerous emails from Siegel to Epstein while Epstein is locked up. Now, these emails are Segal keeping her client informed on the social happenings in their circle. It is name drop-a-palooza, okay? As you would expect from a publicist. And it's written in a way that makes it obvious that Epstein was a grade A starfucker of the highest order. Here's an email from Siegel to Epstein talking about taking in Jack White's new movie, it might get loud, among other things. And again, this is after 2008. This is 2009.
Starting point is 00:19:43 This is not the post-2019 Epstein arrest incarceration, where he's arrested by the feds. This is again after the procuring a child prostitute. Okay. Two. It's got to have seen's email from Peggy Siegel dated August 4th, 2009. Title, Hampton's past weekend. Can you leave state? Can you leave country? My whereabouts. Friday night, we had a screening of It Might Get Loud, a documentary on guitar players Jack White, The Edge, and Jimmy Page by Davis Guggenheim,
Starting point is 00:20:21 who won the Oscar for an inconvenient truth. It poured, but Alec Baldwin hosted with director, and Lisa Robinson, music writer from VF Vanity Fair. Number two, Saturday lunch. Alan Grubman had a lunch with Nora Ephron, Sir Howard Stringer, Diana Picasso, living and supporting Giles Bensonman, Bob Balabam, Barbara Walters. Number three, Saturday night. Went to lesbian wedding reception of Peter Smith's daughter. He is from Lazard and head of membership for Maidstone at his Sagaponic home, hysterical, uptight was.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Toasting Lesbians. Perfect. Number four. Lame outdoor screening at Liz Swig's alcoholic daughter of Maclowe of Every Little Step in Sagaponic for Film Society of Lincoln Center. Stop by for business only with Philip Seymour Hoffman. Number five. Dinner at Jimmy Buffets in North Haven. Lorne Michaels, Richard Gear, Jimmy, Roger Waters, Donna Karen. Very cool. Number six, Sunday dinner across the street from Bob Balabantz, where I was staying at Sandy Gallons for David Geffen, Nora, Barbara Walters, Louis, Jesus Christ, man. Kelly Klein, Marty Klein, Marcy Klein, excuse me, lots of pretty young boys. Very well done. Everyone talks about David's 500-foot boat and who gets invited. Present trip has Sandy Gallen, Nora Ephron, and Nick.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Nora is a catch wrangler. She got Tom Hanks, who got Bruce Springsteen, and Oprah is coming, too. What a group there on the med for three weeks. Almost as chic as a week on Lady Joy with Denise Rich, not complaining, just making you smile. X-O-X-O-Peg. That is nauseating, nauseating, nauseating. This fucking guy in jail or lockup, white collar lockup, whatever he was, wherever he was doing his time. I think he even got to go to his office during business hours that first time down in Palm Beach when he was, quote, unquote, incarcerated. Anyhow, receiving updates from his publicist on all the star fucking that he's missing. I just like, I read that. I read that. I
Starting point is 00:22:27 found that humorous because I just like that she mentions Jack White. All right. Okay, moving on, Elvis Costello is in the files. And again, if you see anything that pops up and says, Elvis Costello is in the Epstein files. Do not fear. There's a bio, there's a biography, and pretty extensive one. It's like six pages from what appears to be 2011. And there's no other context that I can find. Just literally just a six page PDF biography of Elvis Costello. in the Jeffrey Epstein files. Now, on to a little bit more meat. Mick Jagger, and this is where it gets problematic,
Starting point is 00:23:04 Mick Jagger is in the files, okay? There's a photo of him at a Clinton Foundation dinner, seated next to both Jeffrey Epstein and Galam Maxwell, at different times. And there's no indication of the year from these photos, all right? And the best I can tell is that the event was held after Epstein was publicly known to be a pedo. So after 2008.
Starting point is 00:23:33 However, I can't confirm that. It's just I can't. There's nowhere in the files. There's nothing on the internet that I've seen. But these photos look, okay, they're digital photos. They look like they're after 2008. But again, I cannot be certain.
Starting point is 00:23:49 So I'm not going to say that. And also, for the context here, a little more context than you're going to get if you just see a New York Post article or whatever that says like, you know, Mick Jagger dining with Jeffrey Epstein, you know what I mean? Like this thing, these pictures, okay, again, this is a Clinton event. And it appears to be such. It doesn't appear to be an Epstein event.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Again, and that matters. It's hard for me, I know that I'm walking a fine line here, but it's hard for me from this information to damn Mick, Jagger here. Now, we've all been at parties where the ex-con shows up and makes it weird, haven't we? I have anyway. To be clear, just regarding Mick Jagger, and we'll talk a little bit more about this, but regarding Mc Jagger, there's no indication of any criminal wrongdoing or awareness of Epstein's crimes by Jagger in the released materials from the Epstein files at all, none, okay? And I just want to say this, having been around famous rock stars in my life, even mid-level famous
Starting point is 00:24:54 rock stars or the biggest of the big it doesn't matter i can just tell you from my experience jeffrey upstein seems like the exact type of dude that would repel rock stars i'm talking about rock stars who are you know have fuck you money and like mcjagger or elton john or whomever and it just doesn't matter like they they stand to gain nothing okay these types of guys first of all fucking dork, total nerd, right? What's Mick Jagger going to talk to Jeffrey Epstein about? Also, given Jeffrey Epstein's crimes, even if Mick Jagger were inclined to be into that sort of thing, he doesn't need Jeffrey Epstein.
Starting point is 00:25:40 I guess what I'm saying is Mick Jagger can have his own sex trafficking ring. Should he want one? And I don't believe he does or did at all in any way. And when you look at these photos, Mick is. not pleased. He's not sitting there all chummy chummy. He's sitting next to Bill Clinton. He's sitting next to Jeffrey Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein looks pleased as punch. He is psyched. He is starfucker pumped. Okay. So again, this is problematic, but it's not completely damning. And I'm not going there. You might say I'm being an apologist for Mick Jagger and maybe I am, but I'm just telling you what my gut tells
Starting point is 00:26:16 me. Same goes for Michael Jackson and Diana Ross, both pictured on. Epstein's plane. However, for context, again, the photo is here, and I'm a little more certain about this, they appear to be taken before what we know about Epstein was made public, before 2008. But again, I can't confirm that. I'm just telling you what it appears to be to me. Okay, so it's hard for me to believe that Epstein's antics would be something that Michael Jackson would be interested in anyway, okay, for reasons that to me are obvious. But, you know, like a lot of my thoughts here, this is probably best explored in a Michael Jackson episode. I will say, however, there is information in the files indicating that Michael Jackson
Starting point is 00:26:59 was expressly not interested in Epstein's young girls. Okay, there's a file where Epstein were a quote unquote victim, and I say quote unquote victim because I can't tell from the files, what is legally a victim or defined as a victim and what is not. Okay. But I'll just say, there's a woman in the files in documentation, FBI documentation, who says that she was at Epstein's Palm Beach home. Michael Jackson was there. Epstein instructs her. And again, it's important to note that this woman is underage. I should have mentioned that. Epstein instructs her to give Michael Jackson a massage,
Starting point is 00:27:49 and she claims that Michael Jackson declined. Okay? Take that for what it's worth. Again, probably though for another episode. There is so much in here, okay? But, you know, I just encourage you all to go to the Department of Justice site yourself and search this information up on your own if you're interested. You're going to find more than what I've found.
Starting point is 00:28:11 I mean, I spent probably three hours looking into this this morning, and I'm giving you the best of what I came up with here in the structure of this show. But it's worth viewing these primary source documents to see exactly how music and famous musicians played into Epstein's life. And actually, as I mentioned, non-famous musicians as well, kissing his ass, looking for bread to support their careers. And just reading other people's emails is kind of creepy, especially the emails of a dead pedo master of the universe like Jeffrey Epstein. So I encourage you to check it out yourself. Now, it appears that Jeffrey Epstein found Courtney Love to be interesting. He followed her on Twitter. She's fascinating. Regardless what you think of Courtney Love, she's a good follow. She's interesting.
Starting point is 00:28:50 The mentions of Courtney, that's about as far as they go. They're pretty innocuous. Same goes for Kurt Cobain. Same goes for Janice Joplin. Same goes for Elvis Presley. These mentions are innocuous. They're not really worth mentioning here, except to say that there's nothing in the context that indicates anything resembling a crime regarding these folks. Bono is mentioned as well because I think, you know, rich globally interested masters of the universe like Jeffrey Epstein are contractually obligated to mention Bono at least twice a month. Otherwise, they're going to lose their culture credit. But like Courtney and Kurt, as it pertains to Bono, there's no there there. But then there's Jay-Z. There's a fascinating document, an actual FBI document, a quote-unquote, crisis intake
Starting point is 00:29:35 document from 2019 that reports on a victim's alleged experience with Jay-Z and Jeffrey Epstein. And we're going to talk about that in the exclusive section of this after-party. It's too much to get into right now. This episode will be four hours long if I start talking about this. So I'm going to talk about that with Zeth. We're going to go through it. We're going to tell you what's in this file regarding Jay-Z. We're going to give you the context.
Starting point is 00:30:02 and we're going to give you our take on it. To hear that episode, you could be an all-access member. Super easy to do that. Just go to disgraceandpod.com and sign up. You can sign up for as little as a dollar a month, but you're going to be at the $5 level to hear the exclusive after-party content we bring you every week. I will be back right after this break
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Starting point is 00:31:58 Let's check out Ish in the 7-8-1. Jake, what up? Your boy, Ish. Just checking in. Hope all as well. Hope you're getting over this holiday season. Listen to the bonus episode recently. Food fighters and what he'd be into, what he'd be doing.
Starting point is 00:32:26 And just a quick thought, I agree with you. I think he would hate food fighters because most people do. At least I do. But I think he'd be into turnstile and hardcore. Is that just my opinion? Disco-ish. I am recovering for the holidays. Thanks, man. Hope you are as well. Appreciate the call. Yeah, I tend to think the same exact way, actually. I got no, no qualms about what you're saying here. I never thought of what Cobain would take a turnstile, but yeah, I think he would absolutely appreciate the sort of DIY hardcore punk roots.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Food Fighters, as much as I love some of their music, they're a tough hang in a lot of ways. And again, yeah, I kind of agree with your assessment. I can't put it as well as you did. Appreciate the call, man. I hope you're doing well. Hey, Jake. I only mentioned that because I never heard anybody. Anyway, say, I was listening to your NWA,
Starting point is 00:33:41 and it reminded me of some three years old, but because I mean, you go to the count. Dude, when I first heard that, I was like, holy crap. These guys are pissed. And I was literally, dude, I was worried that there was going to be race wars starting right after that
Starting point is 00:34:28 CD came out because you know I was in the hardcore scene back then and we had you know racist skis and stuff and so I knew where those guys were coming from and anyways yeah Jake I was reminded of that when I was re-listening to those episodes and I appreciate all you do have a great day brother Brian thanks for the call appreciate it yeah that was that was a weird time
Starting point is 00:34:53 when straight out of Compton came out for sure, especially if you were in the hardcore scene like we were. And you just reminded me, I should probably do an episode on on Nazi skinheads. I can't believe I've never done that. I could do one on the band's screwdriver and just, because I love, I would love to expose the sort of that gross counterculture. You know, it was always sort of like adjacent to the hardcore scene. Those dudes, I got to admit, they came around in Boston and they just got their asses kicked repeatedly and sort of banished away from the scene. But that era in the 80s, I remember a big Rolling Stone article on the Nazi skinhead thing. And I'm interested in how that grew out of the punk scene in London and how the difference between UK skinheads and American skinheads.
Starting point is 00:35:48 So this would be an interesting episode to get into. So thanks for your sort of unintentional recommendation there, Brian. Appreciate it. That's why we do this, guys. Get to hear from you guys, hear what you're into, hear what you're thinking about. informs me. It helps me determine what we want to cover going forward. And up until 530 seconds ago, I should say, I wasn't thinking about doing a screwdriver episode,
Starting point is 00:36:13 but I think that could be pretty cool. So give us a call. It's my point, 617-906-6638. A couple of weeks ago, we asked a question of you guys. What are some of your most interesting best experiences with live music as kids? Let's go to the 9-12 and get her response. Hey, Jake. I've been here from 9-1-2, and I've got a kid experience for you from a concert that I went to many years ago.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Back in July of 1996, I was 16 years old. We went to an ever-clear show at the Ogden Theater in Denver, Colorado. Back then, it was all general admission for my friends and I basically camped out in the front row for the entire night. At some point in the show, I had one of those teenage girl fantasy moments come to life. Art, Alexakis, the lead singer for Everclear, locks eyes with me midsong, starts singing directly to me, and then motions for me to come back stage after the show. So I'm 16, this is peak 90s rock and roll. I'm internally losing my mind. So whenever clear finished their set, Art motioned for me to come back, but security wouldn't let me through. So even though
Starting point is 00:37:25 the whole band was yelling at them to let me pass, I was stuck. So we regrouped outside on the side of the Ogden where there's a window two or three stories up that opens up into the green room. Art is literally hanging out of the window while this crowd of teenagers attempts to hoist me up to him. so we tried and tried for like an hour but eventually reality and gravity won and all of us gave up and went home I was only 16 art was a full grown man but hey
Starting point is 00:37:54 it was rock and roll in the 90s anyhow I love your podcast I've been listening for years and I especially love the episodes on Jane's Addiction that you did recently thank you so much Jake rockerola ay a yes what a message You know, you lucked out. You lucked out. You're lucky you didn't get into that green room. That's all I have to say. Appreciate you sharing. Appreciate you having a open mind and a clear head about it. We all did stupid shit when we were kids. That's for sure. You dodged a bullet with that one, though. All right, guys, we've done it. I don't know how long we've been taking calls here in disgrace land, 617-90666-6638. But finally, what's it been? It's been a couple of years. You know, a couple of years. years of taking calls in the after Friday. We finally received the call, the greatest call of all
Starting point is 00:38:46 time. Matt, we've done it. Sound the alarm. Yes, people, it's true. The end all be all call from disgrace and members, discos. Here it is. I'm going to play for you right now. Unfortunately, I don't know who it's from, but it's just perfect. It's just absolutely perfect. And whoever you are in the 9-17, you know, call me back whenever, whenever. We love to hear from. We love to hear from you. I'd like to know your name, actually. Let's hear at the 911 S-to-play. That message is so
Starting point is 00:39:17 fucking long. I don't even remember why I'm calling. Anyway, oh, that Hunter S. Thompson thing is stupid, because that guy's a douche. I used to, actually, I shouldn't even say I sold. I gave
Starting point is 00:39:35 weed to someone who used to get him weed in New York City, and he couldn't even find his own weed. A fucking loser. There was something else I wanted to say. I don't remember. All right. Well, there you have it.
Starting point is 00:39:50 It doesn't get much better than that. 9-17. You know, not a lot of people think Hunter S. Thompson was a fucking loser, but you do, and you seem to have your reasons, and I'm not going to argue with that. Who might argue? I didn't know the man. I also didn't get his weed for him, you know?
Starting point is 00:40:05 And I agree. I mean, Hunter Thompson should have been able to find his own fucking weed. What I'm talking about is Hunter S. Thompson. You know what I'm saying? If you want to hear the uncle he's weed for him. Hunter S. Thompson episode. You can. It was released this week in disgrace. And go check that out. 911. Call us back anytime. Let us know your name. 201. I appreciate your Grateful Dead concert experience voicemail. A little too long to get into here. Maybe I'll get into it next week.
Starting point is 00:40:28 I'll play less. I'll focus on yours when we get into the Bob Weir episode of Disgracing. That's coming up. Thanks for calling, though. 480 writes in, never received the T-shirt. Did you change your mind? No, I did not 480. I have not changed my mind. I just have not gotten to the post office yet. However, I will. Okay, another merch winner writes in 904. Don't worry, the merch is coming. I'm making a note.
Starting point is 00:40:52 I'm going to do this tomorrow, all right? I know I said I was going to do it last week, and I didn't do it. Shit got crazy. Blame the Epstein files. The merch is coming. What is this merch you people are asking? Listen, leave a review for disgrace land on Apple Podcasts or on Spotify.
Starting point is 00:41:08 and if you do, and I read it here, and you hear your name, get in touch with me, 617-906-66-66-3-8, and I'll send you some merch. Now, I understand. I'm late, okay? A lot of people, wait, what's going on? These are coming. I promise you. The merch is a coming.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Tracy 310 on Apple Podcast writes, best podcast five stars, best storytellers ever, so often totally in shock learning that most of my human life, the greats I've known, are insanely human. Now sharing your stories with my 89-year-old dad. He's loving it and has made it part of his day. We listen together sometimes and just stare at each other, making sure we heard the same thing. Lowell, you guys are the best.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Thank you. Tracy, 310, tell me your 89-year-old dad's shirt size. I want to send him a disgrace land t-shirt. All right, get in touch. Let me know. I'll get you some merch as well, Tracy. 617-906-66-38 voicemail and text. Ray Dolan gives the review of our Norwegian black metal
Starting point is 00:42:08 episode that's going way back in the way back machine back to season one ray dolin writes on spotify whoa got chills while walking my dog and listening to this this is insane great episode as always you got it ray dolin get in touch ray dolin 616 966 636 638 helltown mark 978 writes hey what's up jake driving to brooklyn listening to fleetwood mac part one correct me if i'm wrong but is this the first time i'm hearing a voice on an episode that isn't yours i'm going to take a wild step is Stevie Nix played by your wife maybe? Great episode, man. The playlist continues. No, definitely not my wife. I don't know. I can't remember. I cannot remember who voiced Stevie Nix's voice. I don't even remember that we did that, actually. Mark, are you hallucinating
Starting point is 00:42:55 from your playlist? Those who don't know, Helltown Mark. Helltown Mark is the gentleman who has created this exhausted, not exhaustive. What's the right word? Endless. Not endless. It's not endless either. A massive playlist of every song mentioned from every Disgraceland episode. He's on track to complete this for all 260-something episodes. He's, I think he's into the 100, you know, might be, I don't know, he's, he's into like season 10 or something like that. This thing is incredible. Helltown Mark in his playlist can be found on our Patreon site. He's part of the community over there. And again, if you want to be part of the community, go to Discracellandpod.com to sign up. You don't have to,
Starting point is 00:43:36 You can even become a free member, okay? You can be part of the community that way. But for a buck, you can jump into the chat and start talking to all the other discos. All right, 617-90666-3-8 voicemail and text to get in touch. Man, there's a lot here. I'm not going to get to all of it. I'll do more next week. I promise you guys.
Starting point is 00:43:54 Amanda, I see your birthday message from the 541. Appreciate you. Thanks for being here from the beginning. Thanks to all of you have been here from the beginning. Mentioned last week. 2018, we launched this in February, Isn't that crazy? It's a long time.
Starting point is 00:44:10 We've made a lot of podcast since then, and we're still making new content. Like I said, we've got a new episode of this film. Should be played loud coming next week on Boogie Nights. You want to check out the show. Decide whether or not you want to become a member. You can do that now in our feed where we're featuring the Goodfellas episode. All right, guys, this is a 60-second sports rant in under 30 seconds, sponsored by 5R Energy in the return of their confetti-craze flavor.
Starting point is 00:44:33 Bring big birthday energy wherever you go with this. plan your confetti craze party at www.5hourenergy.com or Amazon available right now. Matt, give me that buzzer. Listen, I'm not going to sit here and complain about the New England Patriots losing the Super Bowl. We've been to 12 Super Bowls. We've lost six. We've won six. We're 500 in the Super Bowl. Do I wish we had a better winning percentage? Of course I do. Am I upset that we've been to 12 Super Bowls? No, I'm not. Duh. That doesn't make any sense. What I am upset about is the Boston Red Sox and their inability to spend money. The Boston Red Sox ownership treating us like we're a mid-market fan base, a second-tier team, spending money like the, no offense, but the Pittsburgh Pirates. What are we
Starting point is 00:45:18 doing? I mean, come on. This is insane. Letting Bregman walk and not going after a suitable replacement. The Red Sox ownership is, I don't know, allergic to spending money on big name talent. Have you seen what the Dodgers are doing? Yankees will continue to do. It's ridiculous. Where the Boston Red Sox, one of the most storied baseball franchises in history, the greatest ballpark in the MLB. I cannot for the life of me understand what's going on. It's time. I hate to say this. They've done so much good for the city, for the fan base, but it's over. This run of ownership is over. Sell the team, John Henry. Sell the team to an owner that wants to win, that cares, okay, that wants to do right by the fan base. And the,
Starting point is 00:46:04 the players because what you're doing is not working. I'll help you find buyers. Okay, I know some folks. You know, we'll take up a collection because this ain't working. I'm more excited about my eight-year-old's coach pitch league than I am the start of the MLB season. Might be because I'm coaching and I want to know already. Okay. What do you think of them apples? But I want to be excited about the baseball season and it's hard to do when your team just doesn't. Doesn't really care. They don't care. ownership. It doesn't care. They pretend they care, but they don't care. They don't care. Trust me, they don't care.
Starting point is 00:46:40 That was the sports grant sponsored by Five Hour Energy's confetti craze flavor. Back by popular demand. Confetti craze tastes like the best birthday cake ever with its rich, buttery, and vanilla-e flavors. Since Five-Hour Energy shots are tiny and resellable, it's easy to take that birthday everywhere you go. Plan your confetti-craise party at www.5hourenergy.com or Amazon available now. take a quick break. We'll be back in a flash. All right, guys, we're about to get out of here. I mentioned Bruce Springsteen, Bono, Mick Jagger, of course,
Starting point is 00:47:23 Kurt and Courtney, so many. Matt will pull a couple. A couple of the artist names we mentioned, and he'll give you some breadcrumbs in the show notes. So you can find these episodes in our archive, 250-plus episodes of Disgraceland in the archive on so, so, so, so many artists. But let's recap, shall we? Number one, this week, our episode on Hunter S. Thompson. Number two, our rewind episode is coming up tomorrow on Friday.
Starting point is 00:47:50 That's going to be on the Clash. We're also going to have Grateful Dead episodes part one and part two leading into our Tuesday release, part three of the Grateful Dead on Bob Weir and the Bohemian Grove. More importantly, what the Epstein files tell us about Bohemian Grove. And as it pertains to Bob Weir and M.K. Ultra and all that good stuff. you're not going to want to miss that. And number four is that's going to give you those Hollywood and crime vibes in Hollywood land like he does every week.
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Starting point is 00:49:00 that's a disgrace. All right, Hunter S. Thompson died on February 20th, 2005. Here's what America was listening to on that date according to the billboard charts. Number one, Let me love you, Mario. Last week, one, peak position, one. Weeks on chart, 18. Number two, one, two step. Sierra, featuring Missyeli. Last week, two.
Starting point is 00:49:26 Peak position, two, weeks on chart, 17. Number three, Boulevard of Broken Dreams, Green Day. Last week, four, peak position, three, weeks on chart, 13. Number four, how we do, the game, featuring, 50 cent. Last week, six, peak position, four, weeks on chart, 13. Number five, Disco Inferno, 50 cent. Last week, set. Peak position, five. Talking and start mixing. Cut it!

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