DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode: The Greatest Band That Never Was

Episode Date: July 10, 2025

This week in the after party, Jake looks at the bands that could've been huge, but never were, and hears from you on the subject. Plus, Jake talks about the challenge of writing the upcoming Brian Wilson episode and dishes on his surprisingly growing admiration for Jimmy Buffet. On Tuesday, we're bringing you part 2 of our Motley Crue episode, focusing on Nikki Sixx. Jake wants to know: Was Motley Crue the greatest hair metal band? And if you dislike hair metal, are there any hair metal bands that you kinda maybe sorta could like? Share your thoughts at 617-906-6638, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or on socials @disgracelandpod. For more great Disgraceland episodes, dive into our extensive archive, including such episodes as: Episode 42 - Madonna Episode 65 - The Misfits Episode 94 - Tom Petty Episode 137 - New Order To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, Discos, need a little more disgrace land in your life? Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the after party. Welcome to the disgraceland bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the after party.

This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of disgrace land to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. Our mission to uncover the truth, to confront the myth to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode, we're talking about this week's full episode subject, the replacements. We're rewinding with the Guns and Roses parts one and two stories from our archive, previewing our new upcoming episode on Nikki Six, and we get into your voicemails, text, DMs,

and as always, a whole lot of rosy. Disgraceland is for the obsessed, the overlooked, the outsiders who know that the best stories are the ones that got buried. If that's you, then you belong right here in the after party. All right, discos, let's get into it. When I first heard the replacements in high school, it was what older kids listened to. And by older kids, I mean, kids who seem both smart and dangerous. Kids from my town who went to college, but still had cool vintage cars and hot girlfriends, but Molly Ringwall Hot, not Cindy Crawford hot. The point is what these replacements listening dudes had was different from what my punk rock listening friends had.

It seemed more adult and fun. And like I said, somehow smart too. smarter than the misfits and suicidal tendencies anyway, despite Gary and his boner. So I gravitated toward these kids and, of course, toward the replacements. Now, given how fucked up the replacements were and how good their songs were and what the dudes who were listening to the replacements were reaping, I thought, I fucking love this band. And I thought, I can do this. And of course, I couldn't.

Not with that level of brilliance. Turns out it's really hard to be wasted all the time and brilliant. just ask Bob Stinson. Now, the replacements were mythic before they even got big. And maybe that was the problem. Because in living up to that myth, they paid a very, very, very steep price. We, of course, detail that reckoning in our new episode this week on the replacements, the greatest band that never was.

They never reached the rock and roll heights they were promised and that their great songs promised us. And some say they should have been, you know, akin to what. Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers were. I don't believe that. I think the replacements should have been the Rolling Stones. The songs were that good. And so were the albums. And, you know, here's where the, where the replacements had Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers beat. The individual members of the mats had more charisma than the heartbreakers, just like the Rolling Stones. And maybe that's why Tom Petty had the replacements thrown off tour with them, but probably not. Never mind any of that. It doesn't matter. Some of you will say, and I kind of agree with you, who cares? The

replacements made great music. Mainstream rock and roll stardom doesn't matter. And this is true. But there's a weird sort of generational representation that shines on the fans of a very small handful of bands, your Rolling Stones, Nirvana, etc. Okay, those precious few bands who completely embody everything there is to say about a generation. The replacements had that level of rock stardom waiting for them, and they fucked themselves out of it. And yes, it's beyond cool to have seen the replacements at the Rat and Kemmore Square back in 1984,

but wouldn't it be cooler to be telling your kid that this summer at Gillette Stadium while watching the replacement storm through decades of hits that now speak to generations? I don't know. Maybe. Maybe not. I like to think so anyway. Not everything needs to be gate kept. We have plenty of Smiths and Minutemen and Sonics and Joy Divisions, so many bands that were great,

but never cemented their greatness across generations at scale or whatever. I feel like the replacements could have been truly iconic. I had Skyway on the stereo yesterday while driving to the basketball court with my 70-year-old son, and he asked me to play Fleetwood Max everywhere. I wonder what Paul Westberg thinks of that. I don't know. But I bet somehow he gets it. Anyway, speaking of icons, Oasis, the reunion shows are happening.

Were any of you there? Any of you at all? Last weekend at the gig. UK listeners, I know you're out there. You're the third biggest country for disgrace land listeners. Someone out there is listening to this who was at that show. And if it was you, you are, as they say, across the pond, a fucking legend. So call me and give me the review.

617-906-6638. Sabbath just played as well last weekend, their last show, the day after Oasis. I saw some of the footage online. Looks incredible. Maybe you were there instead of Oasis. And if you were, you know how to get in touch as well. I want your review too. And I wanted to know if seeing Oasis or Black Sabbath made you feel like the dirty

rock and roll animals you were back in high school. These are the important questions that we need to answer disco. So hit me up. Sean Combs, still in jail. And boy, did I blow that one last week. I was convinced the judge was going to let him escape. But looks like he's in the Huskow until sentencing on October 3rd. I still don't think he's going to do serious.

time. It's a chance. I'm not saying this is going to happen, but there's a chance he could just get time served and just walk in October. We shall see. I finished writing my Brian Wilson episode on Friday, actually on Saturday. I can't tell if it's good or not. It might have been the hardest episode I've ever written. I'll tell you more about it in a couple weeks when it's released. I'm reading about Jimmy Buffett and man, oh man, was this dude not the droid I was looking for. I don't think I've ever been more interested in an artist whose music, uh, I just don't like. That said, those first three records are starting to get their hooks into me. And if you have partial punk rock, indie snob blood running through your veins like I do, I promise you you're

going to love the Jimmy Buffett story that I'm going to tell you. Don't believe me. Just wait. Story is not what you think. It is so much more. What else is going on? My favorite character in the Chris Whitaker book that I'm reading that I've been telling you guys about, he just died. And honestly, I feel like I need to find a way to process my grief here. Maybe a mock cremation, a pirate's funeral, perhaps. I don't know. It bummed me the fuck out, man. You ever have that happen to you?

You're reading your book and you're just, no, don't do. Wait, what are you doing, man? And then it happens and you're like, shit, now I get the entire third act to go. And the dude's just not there, man. He's gone. Okay? There's no bringing them back either. It's not that type of book.

Whitaker's book, the one I'm reading is called We Begin at the End, his new book, which I can't recall. call the name of at the moment is number three on the Times bestseller list. So I could just read that next. But I've got Tom McGuane's Nobody's Angel queued up next to pair with my upcoming trip to Montana at the end of the month. Hopefully that book will come with less fictional grief. We shall see. I've got Turnstile, the new Turnstile record on my turntable. And no matter what I do, I can't get it off. I cannot, I can't stop listening to this record. It's never enough. sitting to the Turnstile record. See what I did there? I'll have more on Turnstile in the exclusive

section of this bonus episode as well as a little bit more on my time on tour with Tommy Stinson from the replacements that'll come up later in the show. After that, next up in your feed after this episode, we're revisiting Guns and Roses, parts one and two tracing their rise, of course, slash and Izzy's 80s and 90s awesomeness and the weird, strange juvenile delinquent id of Axel Rose. And then next week, quick refresher on our our OG Motley Crew episode on Monday to set the groundwork for our part two crew episode on Nikki Six entirely. Yes, the Nikki Six story is so out of control. The two episodes were needed to get into all of it. Thanks to Disco, Chris On It for pushing me on this one. When you're listening

to that Nikki Six episode, guys, be thinking about this question is Motley Crew the greatest hair metal band of all time? Which glam band makes you want to drive faster, drink more, stay out later? Never leave that kegger out in the woods. I want to know. And if you, If you can't stand hair metal, which hair band? Do you kind of sort of maybe think is all right? You might not like poison, but you can tolerate Hanoi rocks. I don't know. You tell me, call or text 617-906-66-6638 will feature your picks in the next after-party.

All right, that's everything that's in my head. I've got to take a break. I need some tea. I need to drink a little water. I'll be back in a minute with your voicemails and your texts. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes.

And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that, trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends, Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care.

So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Remember when you'd walk into your local video rental place and there were always those two employees behind the counter arguing about movies?

Well, that's us. I'm Millie de Cherico. And I'm Casey O'Brien. And now we're arguing about movies on our podcast, Dear Movies I Love You, from the Exactly Right Network. Can I say something about the

Criterion closet. Go ahead, dude. They're letting too many people in there. Okay, that's another film. Gwhip, I got two. Sadly, that rental place doesn't exist anymore. It's probably a store that sells running shoes. Or an ice cream shop with an extra pee and an E at the end. So consider us your slacker movie clerks in podcast form.

I would like to establish a timeline of the moment you figured out who Channing Tatum was. Every Tuesday, we dig into the movies. We can't stop obsessing. over from hidden gems to big screen favorites. New episodes drop every week on the exactly right network. Listen to Dear Movies I Love You on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, we are back.

Apple Podcast listeners, remember, make sure you got auto downloads turned on so the disgrace and finds you every morning. You don't have to go looking for it. It's just going to be right there in your RSS feed waiting for you every episode, all right? 617-9066638. You know where I'm at him in the phone booth. This is the one across the hall. I'm hanging on the telephone.

You want to send me a voicemail or a text? Get at me, 617-90666-6638. The question of the week we're answering this week has to do with the replacements. I asked you guys, are they, I forget how I phrased it, but it was basically like, you know, what ban besides the replacements should have been huge but was not? This call comes from the 270. Hey, Jay, 270, Todd. I love this question.

I hope I'm not too late for it. I'm going to go with the replacements, which is the subject matter of your show. Also, honorable mentions will go to the New York Dolls, who you have spoke about before. So influential, Kiss, Errol Smith, most of the hair metal bands owe something to the New York Dolls, as we all know. And they just never really sold them any albums. I'm biased because I love them. honorable mentions will go to screaming trees

part about Mark Lanigan in my opinion one of the best bands from Seattle if not the best love the questions love the content thank you Jake see you

all right Todd thanks man I appreciate you well digging into the theme here replacements of course and I like your New York doll suggestion as well I also like the Mark Lanigan screaming trees

piece of it all because we've got a Lanigan episode coming up I think next no Nikki Six is next and then I think After that or two after that is our Mark Lannigan story. So that's coming down the pike just for you.

See, we did that for you specifically. No, we didn't, but you know, we did. Let's check out this voicemail from the 7-8-1. Hey, Jake, Chris here in the 7-8-1. I'm an unapologetic replacement fan. So I had the pleasure of meeting Paul a couple times. Such a great guy. I think they were severely underrated and under-appreciated,

especially during their heyday. See what I did there? They were in the middle of the synth pop and hair metal 80s. There's a couple of bands, though, that I think about that really should have been bigger or even marginally successful. One band out of Boston was Berlin Airlip, later morphed into Berlin, the movie, maybe the greatest band I've ever seen in my life, in my opinion. Also, two other bands from Boston that are severely underrated or underappreciated. One would be the Delphuegos and the other, the legendary neighborhoods. Of course, Dave Menehan ended up playing with Paul in his solo band and, of course, later in the 2013 Replacements Store.

Great episode. I love the maps. I love what you do. Rock and Rolla, buddy. Chris, Rocka Rolla, thank you so much. Great call. Yeah, man. I felt like the replacements were good enough to transcend all the hair metal bullshit that was going on in the 80s.

And, you know, I don't know if we agree or differ on this, but I think the level of self-sabotage from the band itself has more to do with their lack of a breakthrough than the actual scene that was going on at the time. Love, love the Boston wrecks here on bands who should have been bigger. Berlin Air Lift, was that Rick Berlin's band? I never saw Berlin Air Lift or Berlin the movie, but I think that's Rick Berlin's band. And I've seen Rick Berlin perform numerous times. I've even met him once or twice. Super nice guy back when I was a doorman for the lizard lounge way back in the day. What a fun gig that was.

Let's see. What else? What else you got here? Oh, yeah, of course you talk about the Delphuegos. I was just listening to the Delphoigos the other day. Listening to some 80s, quote-unquote, college rock, had a mix going, started by the Long Riders, not from Boston, but a great band. And it pulled up some great Delphuego stuff.

I was listening to the Delphoigos way, way, way, way, way. way, way, way, way, way back in the day. When they were actually happening, when they were being played on F and X, I think they were even being played on B-CN at the time. I remember the girl I was seen back in sixth grade. My girlfriend, she lived at the top of this hill, like really high up in Clinton. And from her house, you could actually get the WFNX signal.

And it was fantastic because you listen to the Delphuegos. You get all kinds of stuff. It was great. And I still love them. Still listen to them. Don't run wild, baby. And of course, neighborhoods, one of the most incredible Boston bands of all time. And has there ever been a more suitable replacement for Bob Stinson's energy and madcap rock and roll stage presence than one sir Dave Minahan of the neighborhoods?

Guy is a beast on stage. Just incredible. Great call, Chris. Appreciate you. Real quick from the 310 all the way out on the West Coast. Here we go. Chase Marshall. Aloha.

Fans that should have been bigger. Question. Love from Los Angeles, the greatest of all time. Arthur Lee and Love. It should be an episode. Good man. Aloha, Mr. Hand. I don't disagree with you.

And Arthur Lee and Love should absolutely be an episode. There's some cool, juicy criminality going on there. I think there's a connection between Arthur Lee or someone in love and Bobby Bolssela. from the Manson family. And there's even more juicy criminality going on and stuff going on there with that story.

But yeah, I love, love just, you know, this happens to me, it's happened to me my whole life. There's a mix going on. I'm somewhere. I'm in a bar. I'm whatever. I'm just going to a playlist going at home

with stuff I haven't heard before. And something comes on and I'm like, what the fuck is this? This is great. And it's love. That's happened to me so many times. That's the type of band there. Incredible band.

Appreciate you, 310. 574 texting. Hey, Jake, this is. Michael from Mishawaka, Indiana. If I had to pick a band that should have been big, I'd pick mute math. Thanks. Love the podcast. I've never heard of mute math. Tell me where to start, okay? Are they like a math rock band? Are they one of those bands? You know, the guy looks like he works in IT. He's got a strap on a guitar and get on stage and then the pit's going to get really fucking violent. Is that the type of thing we're looking at here? Page Hamilton vibes. What are we

looking at? Who's mute math? How have I not heard this before? for 440 writes in hey jake love this week's episode on the replacements as for an answer to this week's question i have to go with michael stanley michael along with his band the michael stanley band are rock royalty in northeast ohio but outside of that he's virtually unknown despite having collaborated with joe walsh todd run green and others that a couple top 40 hits in the early 80s and michael even had a cameo in the drew carry show episode where drew is auditioning people for his band but alas never ascended to the levels of rock stardom he deserved love the show michael stanley It's like on the edge of recognition for me, like right there at that, the recognition part of my brain,

it's like, it's like teetering. Like I can almost recall who Michael Stanley and the Michael Stanley band is. But then I think, wait, was he in the Scorpions? No, of course he was not in the Scorpions. I don't know. Michael Stanley, yeah, I guess. Hit me up. I don't know anything about Michael Stanley.

I like these recommendations of artists that I've never heard of before or can't recall, I should say. Appreciate you guys. 617-906-66. 638 on the voicemail and the text at disgracelam pod you want to hit me up on Instagram I'll answer you over there you want to hit me up on TikTok I'll hit you back there same as on Facebook same with X at disgracelam pod you can also email me disgracelam pod at gmail dot com Jason Hunt writes in nice short and sweet Jason love it would love a deep dive on Andrew Wood and mother love bone you know this is one of those I got to do it I got to do

it sooner or later people freaking love this guy love this band this gets requested so much. Maybe that'll be coming up next. I'm not sure. We're trying to balance out our schedule right now. We shall see. Thanks for the email, Jason. This email comes from Nicholas Phillips. Nicholas says, hey there, it's Nicholas from 713. Houston. The band that should have been huge to me was the Wild Hearts, formed in 1989 Newcastle, England. From initially coming into the music scene, they have always managed to just fall short of breaking through, usually by their own volition, and they have enough stories that they would make a great subject to the disgrace land. For over the years, they've been line-up changes, drug and alcohol problems, mental health issues, which

has led to such things as the band trashing the offices of Kerrang magazine, having to drop out of a U.S. tour supporting ACDC bassist Danny McCormick, having his leg amputated, and I'm sorry, I'm not laughing at that, just laughing at the laundry list of insanity here, and singer Ginger Wildheart, spending time in a Thai jail. Somehow, the band is still going, having released their new album, the satanic rights of the Wild Hearts to critical acclaim. So, if you fancy listening to a that sounds like the bastard child of a three-way between Metallica, the Beatles and Sex Pistols, you are in for a treat. Keep up the good work and rock a roll. Nick. Nick, thanks brother. Never heard of the Wild Hearts. How's that possible? I don't know. Can't catch it all, Nick.

You know, I do my best. I try. That's what I have you guys for. You know, help fill in the gaps. All right? Guys, be like Nick. Be like the other callers, the texters, the emailers. okay maybe you've been sitting on the fence listening and go i'm like shit man i really enjoy when people call in and jake engages with them but i never call myself or you might say uh you know maybe say like god damn i really want to tell this story thing that happened to me that i saw when i was at that show back in high school or maybe you're just read a great book i don't know great bio biography autobiography and an artist and there's some stuff in there that i'm not aware of and you think yeah jake jake jake's got a whole research team behind him. He knows all this stuff. Why would I tell him that? I don't know all this stuff.

And yeah, we have people who do research, my dad, but you know, my dad's busy. He's got shit going on. He doesn't even listen to the podcast. Works for us. Doesn't listen to the podcast. What's that all about? I don't know. Someone tell my dad to listen to the podcast. Anyhow, if that's you, if you guys got shit to say, I want you to know, I want to hear your voice. Your voice helps prompt me to dig in, to try and uncover the stories that get buried. The real stories. Sometimes there's stories. like I said that I'm not even aware are there and sometimes there are stories with narratives

that are just too fucking convenient and not nearly as interesting and entertaining as the truth. And you guys, as I mentioned earlier in the B block when talking about Nikki Six, and I mentioned disco Chris on it, you guys sometimes propel me to find these stories

and to bring them to the forefront. So 617-90666-363-8. Don't sit on the fence. Give us a call. Send us a text. Email us. Disgrateslampod at gmail.com. All right, let's dive into our 60-second sports rant in under 30 seconds.

Okay, Brian Beaux's complete game gem for the Red Sox this week, aside, this is how uninteresting the Red Sox have become for me this year. I'm about to talk about sailing, okay? Sort of. This week, 23 years ago, on July 7th, 2002 NBA player Bison Deal, is that how you say the name? D-E-L-L-E. vanished on a Tahitian sailing trip.

How the hell am I just learning about this now? Deal dated Madonna for crap's sakes. It's believed this guy, this NBA player, was murdered at sea. This story is nuts, and it is way too much to get into in under 30 seconds, but we will eventually get into it in sportsland. Moral of the story, if you're in the NBA and dating Madonna, be careful out there on the high seas and be more interesting if you're on the Red Sox. All right?

Matt, how did I beat the buzzer? Jake, I'm going to give you a partial credit this week. You came in under a minute, but not under 30 seconds. You were about 48 seconds there. So partial credit. And, yeah, Bison DeLay, that is a crazy story. The former Brian Williams, he was on the Chicago Bulls championship team, and I want to say 97 before he changed his name to Bison DeLay.

And yeah, it's a crazy story. We got to get into that one for sure. I'm going to take a very short break. I will be back in a flash. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either.

We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends, Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated, the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care.

So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When like young people come up to me and they want to be an act or whatever, my first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? Rather be disappointed in. Do that. Dennis Leary.

I wake up and I'm hitting him in the head with a water bomb. And Bruce Jenner is on the aisle in a karate stance like he's about to attack me. Like making karate noises. And his entire the Cardenas. family over there, everybody's going, and the air marshal is trying to grab my arms and screaming. I immediately know that I've been asleep walking. David O'Yellowo. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or

you just go straight for the guts. Guy Branham. So anyway, Nicole Kidman broke up with Keith Thurban. Being half of a country couple was always a hat she was going to wear, not like a life she was going to lead. Oh, interesting. I like that. Did you practice that on your way over? Gait and moderato from Stranger Things. Tena, Monjou, Camilla Morone, Carrie Kenny Silver, and more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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I want to bring your attention real quick to the Hollywoodland podcast where this week we are featuring Sharon Stone. That's right, the one and only Sharon Stone. from casino to cannibalism and back again. What you're asking yourself, what the hell is that all about? Well, I'm telling you, man, you're just gonna have to go listen. Subscribe to Hollywoodland, okay?

Go to your RSS, go to whatever podcast player you use, Spotify, Apple, whatever it is. Search for Hollywoodland. Give that a follow. True crime lens on this Sharon Stone story is intense. Of course, as I've been telling you guys

for the last few weeks, Zeth and I are deep into these episodes in our Hollywoodland rap party. bonus episodes. Those drop every Wednesday where every week you get another bite at getting your voicemails and texts heard and played. And you also get some movie-related music wrecks from yours truly. I got to say, recording that segment of the rap party with Zeth is one of my favorite

work things to do every week now. Because I get to talk about music just first. almost freely. I know it's tied to assurance to whatever the actresses that were, or actor or director that we're featuring in Hollywood land that week. But I find ways to hop, skip and jump around and get to what just I want to talk about musically. And it's, it's exercising this muscle that I don't have anymore because I don't, I don't go to parties and just, or go to the bar anymore and just sort of like talk shit about music. I guess I do it in a much more formulaic and structured way and disgrace land.

But the conversation with Zeth is pretty free flowing around the recommendations. And I really look forward to it. Matt is going to queue up a little. I don't know if he'll play that part of the rap party for you. But Matt, give a little taste. I'm going to stop talking here. Jake, as always, I'm going to start with you. What music recommendations are you bringing this week?

Share Your Love by Aretha Franklin. Just a fantastic song. I think it's a Bobby Blue Blan song. I'm not exactly sure. But Google this song, also early 70s, I believe. And it's the perfect sort of like deep cut Aretha that'll make you go like, how the fuck do I not know this song? And it's so great.

Her greatness is so great that like the shit no one pays attention to is greater than everything else. That's the type of artist she is. She's amazing. And this song is indicative of, I think, that exact point. I don't know what that, what record that's from, but I discovered only recently her album, Let Me In Your Life, which is,

that's the title of a Bill Withers song, which I think opens the record. And it's one, it's sort of outside that like, quote unquote, classic period, you know, of like respect and thank and all that stuff.

So I always kind of ignored it. I was actually in my local record store and the owner was playing it. And he was like, do you know this? Now I said, no. And he was like,

it's fucking great. And so I bought it. Yeah. It's amazing. Like, but to your point, she is so great, there's so much stuff

hiding in plain sight that she did. It's amazing. All right. So that's the rap party. Part of the Hollywoodland experience. If you want more storytelling like we do here in disgrace land, get over to Hollywoodland and subscribe. I was talking about recommendations.

Another music rec. I mentioned turnstile earlier in the beginning of this episode. I get the record right up here on top of my desk. What else I got here? Bone machine. Tom Waits. DJ Shadow Introducing

Great CD These are CDs by the way Turnstile The album is vinyl I'm going to be talking about Turnstile The new record The band

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I say this every week, I'm going to say it again. We've got about 240 episodes on a gazillion different musicians, artists in the disgrace land archive. If you need any help finding any of those subjects, people you're interested in that you want to hear episodes on, hit me up and let me know. You know what to get in touch with me, 617-906668. The archive is deep. It can be hard to find your way around. This week, we talked about in this episode, we mentioned Madonna, we mentioned Joy Division, and we mentioned the misfits.

We mentioned Tom Petty, of course. We have episodes on three of those four. We don't have a Joy Division episode. We have a new order episode. Of course, misfits, Tom Petty and Madonna, like I said. And Matt will have the show info on those episodes in the show notes of this bonus episode, make it easy for you to find. All right.

Let's recap, shall we? Number one, this week's full episode on The Replacements is live and waiting for you right now. Number two, next up in your feed, we are rewinding with our Guns and Roses Parts One and Two episodes. It's number three up next week. A brand new episode on Nikki Six coming your way on Tuesday. Number four, over in the Hollywoodland feed, Sharon Stone. Plus, this week's rap party with Zeth and I, unpacking the story and a whole bunch of recommendations.

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