DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode: The Mount Rushmore of Guitarists

Episode Date: May 8, 2025

This week in the After Party, Jake hears from you about the Mount Rushmore of Guitarists and opines on a recent performance from David Lee Roth. Next week, we're presenting part 2 of the Prince story,... and Jake wants to know: Which artist best represented their times? Tell Jake at 617-906-6638, ⁠⁠disgracelandpod@gmail.com⁠⁠, or on socials @disgracelandpod. For more great Disgraceland episodes, dive into our extensive archive, including such episodes as: Episode 85 - Pantera Episode 133 - Jimi Hendrix Episode 173 - Public Enemy To hear an extended version of the After Party and unlock access to a monthly exclusive episode and ad free listening, become a Disgraceland All Access member at ⁠⁠disgracelandpod.com/membership.⁠⁠ Visit ⁠⁠www.disgracelandpod.com/merch⁠⁠ to see the latest Disgraceland merch! Sign up for our newsletter and get the inside dirt on events, merch and other awesomeness - ⁠⁠GET THE NEWSLETTER⁠⁠ Follow Jake and DISGRACELAND: ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠ ⁠⁠X⁠⁠ (formerly Twitter)  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:41 Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the After Party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. On this bonus episode, we are talking about Van Halen part two. We are previewing our coming part two episode on Prince. We're talking ratfink blues in the Hollywoodland Minute.
Starting point is 00:03:05 And we get into your voicemails, text, DMs, emails. And as always, a whole lot of rosy all right discos. Let's get into it. All right, so back on March 26, 2024, we released our first episode on Van Halen. Eddie had been dead for a while at that point. he passed back in October 2020. There is, of course, no continuation of Van Halen. There were rumors that somehow the band was going to continue with Eddie's son, Wolfgang,
Starting point is 00:03:47 and Dave was going to be back in the frontman slot, or that Sammy was coming back, or that Nuno Betancourt from Extreme was stepping in to replace Eddie, and that that meant that Gary was going to join. I don't know. Here's what I do know. There's no replacing Eddie Van Halen. There was no one like him before we took the stage,
Starting point is 00:04:06 and there will never be another like him now that he's gone. So we released our two-part episode on Van Halen this week, on Tuesday. But this past weekend, something remarkable happened. Eddie Van Halen's former Foil and Band May and sometime enemy, David Lee Roth, took the stage not with Van Halen and not to perform hits from his solo career, but with an entirely different group of musicians to perform a set of only, Van Halen songs, bangers, and in typical David Lee Roth fashion, it rocked. Surprisingly, I guess, I mean, I said it's typical, but I shouldn't have said that because there's been some
Starting point is 00:04:45 really uneven David Lee Roth stuff over the past few years. Now, the band that he was fronting, it of course didn't have the Van Halen magic, but the songs that were performed in The Cradle Will Rock, Jamie's Crying, Running with the Devil, Atomic Punk, Drop Dead Legs, Ain't Talk About About Love, Hot for Teacher, and of course, Jump. they were so great. I mean, I watched a bunch of this. It was awesome. Okay? These songs are incredible songs. They can survive without the magic, I think is what I'm saying. The magic is, of course, gone with no Eddie, with no Van Halen. And it's been gone since the mid-80s. Those Van Halen reunions were abominations. And yet again, this was not Van Halen, but it was a group of more than competent
Starting point is 00:05:30 musicians giving David Lee Roth just enough of what he needed to go out there in entertain the hell out of a pavilion full of people in Maryland or Delaware or wherever the hell they were. And after seeing Dave do this on these videos over the internet all weekend, I got to admit, I kind of wished that I was one of those people in the crowd. Unlike the Van Halen reunion shows that I've seen. In these videos, David Lee Roth looks stoked. He looks happy to be there. He doesn't look like he's putting it on. He doesn't look like he's faking it. You know, and of course he's super old. It doesn't matter. His natural. an abundant charisma, it's contagious. And yeah, it's super schlocky and probably has more to do with
Starting point is 00:06:11 Las Vegas than it does with Van Halen, but that doesn't mean it isn't entertaining. And oh, by the way, David Lee Roth always seemed like a dude who was going to end up in Las Vegas anyway. He always had that old school rat pack entertainer vibe. It was hard to see underneath all that hair and it got obscured, I guess, by the pecks and the splits. But David Lee Roth can completely, put on a classic show. And that was fully on display the other night. And I hope that he keeps on doing it. You know, I'm using this opportunity this week because of our Van Halen part two episode to just say that I hope that this continues. And I have no illusions that it's going to be Van Halen or it's going to be as good as Van Halen or it's going to be as magical as Van Halen. It's not going to be
Starting point is 00:06:50 any of those things. But that doesn't mean it can't be fucking cool. That doesn't mean it can't be fun. And I honestly hope that I'm more interested in this happening, David Lee Roth playing Van Halen songs without Van Halen than I am with David Lee Roth reuniting with Alex Van Halen and Michael Anthony and without Eddie because of course if you'll excuse me that would be a disgrace it just would not be cool no matter who they get to replace it again you can't replace Eddie Van Halen okay just Dave go out there be our authentic schlocky self entertain the hell out of us with those incredible songs because all feel like we're in an 80s teen movie ripping the strip in a convertible got a heater in the ashtray a road soda between our legs a babe it riding
Starting point is 00:07:31 shotgun or something like that you know i can get with that you know i was going to talk about sammy hagar in this episode because that's what our full episode deals with this week who deals with the sammy era i guess you could call it more than it does the dave era and i was going to talk about my newfound appreciation for sammy sammy hagar my my late onset sammy hagar appreciation speaking to old dudes i saw sammy hagar on a video this morning with alice cooper ripping it up over the weekend and did not It's hysterical. And in some weird way, Sammy Hagar has got me interested in Jimmy Buffett. I know.
Starting point is 00:08:08 I know. Hold your fire. I think I'm going to do a Jimmy Buffett episode at some point. But anyhow, I get distracted by this David Lee Roth News. Okay? In this two-part episode on Van Halen, part two, I should say, it's been well-received so far. I've got a lot of great comments on the Spotify app. Got a lot of great DMs, emails.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Thank you guys who have checked it out. For those of you who have not already, go ahead. It's there for you. It's waiting for you. in our rewind episode that's coming up right after this. We have our episode on another legend, a hip hop legend, Slick Rick. What's Rick doing these days?
Starting point is 00:08:39 I don't know. Maybe we can get Rick to head out to Vegas with David Lee Roth, put together a little legend show for us. I'd go see a show with Slick Rick and David Lee Roth. All right, next week, next week. What do we get next week? Next week we have another two-part episode or a part two-part episode coming that is new.
Starting point is 00:08:56 It's the follow-up to our part one episode on Prince. All right. There was way too much Prince to cover in one episode. So we get the whole story for you here coming next week. And when you're listening to Prince, okay? I think last time we talked about Prince, we got into this conversation about who the greatest is dumb fucking question. But it's a good one. Just greatest musician of all time. I think that's what we were talking about.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Or greatest pop star of all time. Or musician technically gifted pop star. So I forget how we qualified it. Prince obviously came up. Stevie Wonder came up. We've talked about before, you know, speaking of Van Halen, we've talked about, you know, as Prince, one of the greatest guitar players of all time.
Starting point is 00:09:35 We're going to get into that later here, that greatest guitar player conversation. We'll get into that later in the episode with your DMs and your text and your voicemails. But this time, for this part two, Prince episode, when you're listening to it, I want you guys to be thinking about which artists best nailed their moment, okay?
Starting point is 00:09:55 Was it Prince with Sign of the Times? All right? you know what I'm talking about here. Was it Stevie Wonder with Living for the City? Marvin Gay with what's going on. Public enemy with Bring the Noise or Fight the Power. Hell, everything public enemy did. How about Nirvana?
Starting point is 00:10:09 I mean, Nirvana, Kirk Cobain nailed the time. I'd throw the strokes into this conversation. So many artists hold a mirror up to the era that they're creating in. And I want to know from you guys, who did it best? Give me a call at 617-906-66-36-38. Which artists best represented their times? Send me a text. Send me a voicemail 617-90666638.
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Starting point is 00:17:10 6179-066-6638. All right, let's hear from the 573 coming at us with their answer on Who deserves to be on the Mount Rushmore of guitar players? Obviously in reference to our Van Halen episode this week. Here we go from the 573. Hey, what's going on? This Graceland, people, and Jake and the whole crew, keep up the excellent work for your Mount Rushmore. Let's go ahead with this top four.
Starting point is 00:17:34 There's four or five presidents on on Rushmore, Dave. Okay, she says four. Let's go with Prince, Eddie Van Halen, Dimebag, Daryl. No, wait, do that again. Prince, Dimebag Daryl, Eddie Van Halen, and then Randy Rhodes. All right. Love everybody. Do it up.
Starting point is 00:17:51 573. I love this list. I love it. Even though there's no Jimmy Hendrix, I feel like my list is too obvious. It's Eddie. It's Jimmy. It's Stevie Ray Vaughan. And it's probably Jimmy Page. But I love the inclusion of Prince here. I love the inclusion of Randy Rhodes. Rain Rhodes doesn't get enough sway. I don't think. I don't think he does. Anyways, 573, thanks to you and thanks to whoever you had in the background there. who you went to for your million dollar question what is that show i don't know whatever here we go all right let's hear from the seven to four hey jake this is clint i'm currently in the seven two four western pennsylvania i got to go with betty van hailing jimmy hendricks jimmy page and roy clark he's kind of an odd addition but if you go back through guitar players
Starting point is 00:18:42 a lot of them reference him and that son of a gun sure could pick a guitar uh that's my list brother thank you very much for what you do. Have a good weekend. 724. Thanks for the call. Roy Clark. I got to admit, man, I'm not up on my Roy Clark. But now you have given me the impetus, the inciting incident to send me on my quest, my hero's journey to discover Roy Clark. Appreciate you. Thank you, 724.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Let's do one more of these. This one from the 904. What's up, Jake, very from the 904, my mountain Rushmore. Eddie Van Halen, Jimmy Payland. Jimmy Hendrix and Drummond will please Angus Young let me explain Angus. It's the image and the outfit and he just still at his advanced age, he still brings it, and he was involved in the greatest selling rock and roll or one of the greatest selling albums of all time back in black. So the three pretty much down the middle, but I think my Angus Young is a wild card.
Starting point is 00:19:45 might be a little controversy behind that, but all of those things that Angus stands for. And what other band, you know, usually it's the lead singer, is kind of the face of the band. Angus Young is the face of ACDC. And so for that, I include him on my Mount Rushmore. Yo, 904, love this one. Angus Young was my favorite guitar player growing up.
Starting point is 00:20:06 He was my guy. I rode hard for him. I got many of fights, fist of cuffs, even in the park with my friends, arguing over the greatest guitar player. you go if you're out there. I know you know what I'm talking about. And yes, I still think Angus Young is better than Jimmy Page. But, you know, Angus gets, you kind of get to this a little bit. Angus gets, I don't want to say maligned, but left off these lists because he was such a simple
Starting point is 00:20:30 guitar player. And I think that was part of his magic. The one thing, however, that I did not really embrace or think about when I was a kid and just loving ACDC, even the Bond Scott era stuff when I got into that was just how important, of course, Angus's brother, Malcolm was not only to the band, but to Angus's guitar playing. I mean, Malcolm did things that allowed Angus to do what he did. And that's a very oversimplified version of what was going on there. But it's almost, I guess what I'm getting at is like, if you're going to put Angus up there, you need to put Malcolm looking over his shoulder, perhaps. 617-906-66-36-3-8, voicemail and text 304 writes in, listening to Part 2 of Van Halen. I love when you get excited about a band.
Starting point is 00:21:14 I'm sure you're interested in all of them, but when you really are into a band, it comes through. Part one was like a prayer to your God. Nice work. Well, I mean, you know, I don't think Eddie Van Halen was a god. I love Eddie Van Halen. I truly do. Loved him. A guitar god, perhaps.
Starting point is 00:21:33 6-1-2 writes in, hey, Jake, great episode on Van Halen part two. Eddie is the king, in my opinion. Although I have to disagree with Hagar being more successful and bigger than Roth Van Halen. four number one albums are great, but Roth Van Halen sold 57 million, Hagar Van Halen with 27 million. Roth Van Halen had more competition with Michael Jackson's Thriller and Def Leppard's Pyromania. I like Van Hagar, but I love Van Halen.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Thanks, Nathan, in Minneapolis. Great point, Nathan. I never consider the competition when I'm considering album sales. Appreciate that. Tony with an eye, writes, saying, hey, Jake, regarding your, what are you into, etc. Ask, well, I'm 53. I'm a female. I'm married since 1,999, decided on that date after we saw Prince live. I turned my husband onto your show. He's a big fan. I'm going to we this, okay, just because we are both very into a wide variety of music and are proud that our 22-year-old daughter is as well. I lean all
Starting point is 00:22:30 grunge, classic rock. He likes the harder stuff. I don't like all the screaming, corn, rage, etc. I'm more 21 pilots, panic at the disco, Harry Styles. We love live music. We both like the boom. And our car stereo is as important a feature as the brakes. He has a custom mini truck that he takes to shows. I like to hike more nature walk and mountain climbing. We both love to just hang out and binge our favorite shows. And of course, discuss disgrace land episodes. Been listening since 2018, maybe 19.
Starting point is 00:22:59 Who can remember? I look forward to listening for years to come. Rocka Rola from Tony in Sacramento. Tony, say hi to your man for us. Thank you so much for getting in touch. Tell us about yourself. Appreciate that. Sounds like you guys have a great.
Starting point is 00:23:12 relationship. Karen from the 646 writes in. She's a female photographer living in Brooklyn with an 11 year old son, originally from the Bay Area, where she was raised on raves, skateboarding, gays, in good times. My favorite things to do are work, dance, travel. Check out art and museums, drink wine, read, cook, and party with my friends. And the biggest category of music I've been into throughout my life is alternative, followed closely by techno house old school. Thank you very much. Hip hop, trip hop. 70s funk and soul. and classical. You guys have great taste. As exemplified by Karen here. Karen goes on to say that some of her favorite movies are Blade Runner, Alien, Heather's Party Girl. Party Girl's great. Parker Posey. Good choice.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Good choice, Karen. She lists a bunch of other ones here. Favorite books and authors, The Bell Jar, The History of Junk, Annihilation, Sherlock Holmes, Margaret Atwood, Raymond Chandler. Awesome. William Gibson. Never read any Gibson. I say Gibson like I know who the hell she's talking about. I don't even know who William Gibson is, but I never read them. So much more, but that's quite enough. Question for you, what does Whole Lot of Rosie mean? Well, thanks for asking Karen. A whole lot of Rosie is in reference to one of my favorite songs of all time by ACDC.
Starting point is 00:24:27 I don't know. Just a whole lot of Rosie. I just felt like saying it one day and it's stuck. So there it is. You know, Bon Scott's taste, as demonstrated in that song, partially aligned with my taste. So, you know, it makes sense. 617-9066638. you guys want to get at me with next week's question of the week.
Starting point is 00:24:43 We're going to be talking about which artists best represented their time in their music. Was it Prince with Sign of the Times? Was it somebody else get at us and let us know? And look, I'm looking to get to know all you guys, okay? Not just Karen, not just Tony. Hit me up. Let me know what you're into. I want to know what books you're reading, especially.
Starting point is 00:24:59 That's something that I, you know, Karen mentioned that. I've been on a reading kick, a fiction kick lately. And my tastes are very much, they're in the thrill. the crime thriller, I guess, is how you would describe my taste. James L. Roy, Richard Price. I'm reading a Richard Price book right now called Lazarus Man. It's really good. Last year, I talked to you guys about this. I got on this mystery kick, kind of a whodunit kick. And I was looking at the charts. A friend of mine just released her book this week, and it's going gangbusters. And it brought me to look at the charts and see how it was doing. And I realize that the only books that really sell these days are sort of in the murder mystery
Starting point is 00:25:48 vein, you know, and the majority of people who read those books are women. It's just a fact. If you look it up, it's just a fact. Demographically, more women read those books than men. So I started asking myself, well, what a men read? And I looked it up, and men read mostly history, like nonfiction history. and to the extent that they're reading fiction, if there's any sort of category that correlates with women in their obsession with murder mystery novels, it's sort of this action thriller,
Starting point is 00:26:27 Jack Reacher type of book. That ain't my thing. I like this crime thriller thing that I thought was much bigger than it is. out it's not that big at all. Not that big of a genre when it comes to books. So, dudes, I want to know what you like to read. Okay? Let me know what types of books you like to read. And ladies, I ask the same of you as well. If beyond the murder mystery or this murder mystery and what authors? Because I like that stuff and I like reading it as well. I think I'm in the minority of men who read that stuff. I could be wrong. Anyhow, this is just on my mind lately. And, you know, as I get to know you guys, this is one thing I'm curious about what are you reading.
Starting point is 00:27:06 what are you guys into? All right, let me know. At Disgrace Land Pod, you want to hit me up there on Instagram, on X, on Facebook, any of those places? Just like Kentucky Colonel hitting us up on X saying, hey, did not know about Tim Allen's life before comedy. Remarkable that he was able to use his talents
Starting point is 00:27:24 to find funny in the middle of all that. Kentucky Colonel is, of course, talking about our Tim Allen episode of Hollywoodland, which we released this week and that I totally screwed up in regards to the, after party. You'll hear about that in a minute. And by a minute, I mean a second right now. So we do these Easter eggs in the Hollywoodland episodes, or I ask you guys a question that is specific to that episode. You go find the question. You let me know about it. And then I award you in some way.
Starting point is 00:27:54 However, I fucked it up. I'm not even going to get into how I fucked it up. I just fucked it up. It's a, it's a ice cream headache of a problem. And it has to do with me recording the episodes too early. I apologize. And so that we have to have. We have. no Hollywoodland Easter egg for you this week. We will be back with it next week. Just know, listen to Hollywoodland, okay? It's taken off over there in its own feed. We got big plans for this feed going forward. It's not just going to be an archive going forward. But in the meantime, you can catch up on all of these episodes. And if you have not heard any of them and you're craving for more double-elves storytelling with me on the mic, this is your chance. Got over 40 episodes
Starting point is 00:28:30 over there in the Hollywoodland feed. We got the Tim Allen one that was just referenced. And we have one coming next week on Will Smith and the slap heard around the world. It was really hard for me to bite my tongue on this episode. I don't think I really bit it at all, actually. And it was, when we originally produced it, I was in partnership with a media company who was at that very moment in a big time partnership with Will Smith. So it was, it was tricky terrain to navigate, but I think we did a good job and I think I expressed how I felt. And I hope you guys dig it. that's coming your way next week in the Hollywood land feed listen you know what else i hope is coming your way soon a fucking red socks win all right this is the sports rant this is me giving you
Starting point is 00:29:14 30 seconds of my thoughts on sports for those of you a lot of people from pennsylvania by the way and i'm wondering how many pirates fans are out there my kid wants a pirate's hat we've been talking about it best hat in the game anyhow even though the celtics are in the playoffs right now i'm gonna take a beat on that i'm not going to talk about the south i'm going to talk about the red sox because tristan cassis went down and there is a big big big hole in the lineup not that he was actually hitting He wasn't, but he's supposed to bring it around. The Red Sox, they got this stud in the minors that could just cut, you know, everyone's saying, bring the dude up. Roman Anthony.
Starting point is 00:29:44 What a name too. Roman Anthony. Guy looks like he's about to invade the hinterland and he can swing. And they're not bringing him up and they need to bring him up. The Red Sox need to get off their ass and they need to actually start to think about their audience, their fans. We want to see winning now, okay? They have the money. They have the talent.
Starting point is 00:30:04 they need to stop playing everything for the future. Small ball future. We need to win now. Baseball is highly competitive right now. There are some incredible teams right now. The Giants, the Mets, the Yankees, hitting the tar off the ball. And if we want to compete with those teams,
Starting point is 00:30:22 we're going to put our best out there on the field. Bring it. Bring the kid up. Let's fucking go. All right, that was my sports room. I'll be back in the flash with your emails in the Hollywoodland minute. There's two golden rules that any man should live by.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that, trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends... Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by it.
Starting point is 00:31:12 a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. They said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe.
Starting point is 00:31:30 On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Your husband is not who you think he is. Your body is not what you thought it was. Your identity is formed by a secret history. I'm Danny Shapiro, and these are just a few of the stunning stories I'll be exploring on the 14th season of family secrets. And just then, we felt the plain turn in the air, so much so that the bags that were under people's seats just kind of flew into the aisle. Each week, we dive head first into the complex power of secrecy, how it shapes our identities and relationships, and how it ultimately can reveal to us our truest selves. My daughter, she's pretending she doesn't know, but is trying to cook and feed me and keep me alive because I wasn't eating anything.
Starting point is 00:32:21 And me pretending like everything was fine. He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move. And he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off. And that was the last time I saw him. Listen to season 14 of Family Secrets, starting May 7th on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some. fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When like young people come up to me and they want to be an act or whatever,
Starting point is 00:32:51 my first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? Rather be disappointed in. Do that. Dennis Leary. I wake up and I'm hitting him in the head with a water bomb. And Bruce Jenner is on the aisle in a karate stance like he's about to attack me. Like making karate noises. And his entire the Kardashians family over there,
Starting point is 00:33:15 Everybody's going, and the air march is trying to grab my arms and screaming. I immediately know that I've been asleep walking. David O'Yellowo. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Guy Branham. So anyway, Nicole Kidman broke up with Keith Thurban. Being half of a country couple was always a hat she was going to wear, not like a life she was going to lead. Oh, interesting.
Starting point is 00:33:45 I like that. Did you practice that on your way over? Gaten Madarazzo from Stranger Things. Sanna-Majou. Camilla Marone, Carrie Kenny Silver, and more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the IHeart Radio app,
Starting point is 00:34:00 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, we are back and you know what time it is. It's time for the Hollywood Land Minute brought to you by the Hollywood Land Podcast. Don't know what the Hollywood Land podcast is. Well, the Hollywood Land Podcast is hosted by yours. Truly Where Every Week, I tell you a story from the Annex of Hollywood and True Crime
Starting point is 00:34:21 and right now there are over 40 episodes waiting for you to binge episodes on Robin Williams, Sean Penn, Andy Warhol, David Lynch, John Waters, Danny Trehal, Merrill, Monroe, Steve McQueen, Paris, Hilton, Jane Fonda, and most recently the very talented dude from over from over on the other side of the fence, Tim Allen, here's a clip. The car crossed two lanes of traffic before it flipped over. The other car traveling in the opposite direction didn't have time to get out of the way. There was no warning, no way out. Brakes, squealed, tires nod the pavement.
Starting point is 00:34:52 The shriek of metal-on-metal was ear-splitting and soul-round. Timothy Allen Dick didn't go with his parents and a few of his siblings to the University of Colorado football game that day. So he wasn't in the car with them when a drunk driver's car literally flopped on top of their car. His mother and siblings survived. His father, however, wasn't so lucky. He was killed in the crash. It was November 23, 1964.
Starting point is 00:35:20 The Dick family of 8.000. had suddenly become a family of seven. Tim was 11 years old. He was angry. He was angry that his father had been taken away from him. He was angry that a drunk man could crash into a sober man and that the drunk man wasn't the one to die. Life was fucking unfair like that.
Starting point is 00:35:38 So what do you do when life is patently unfair? When your anger about one thing, metastasizes into anger about everything. You game life. You don't listen to anyone else, especially adults. What you don't let the adults know, you're not listening. You smile, you say please, you say thank you, you sit politely at the dinner table with perfect posture,
Starting point is 00:36:00 with your napkin folded neatly in your lap. You demonstrate manners that would make Emily fucking post-proud, and what the manners are just for show. Because when the adults turn their backs, you take them for all their worth. You nick hooch from the liquor cabinet. You grab the keys off the kitchen counter and take the station wagon for the ride of your life. You give off the illusion that you were paying attention, following rules. listening and being respectful,
Starting point is 00:36:23 but in reality, you aren't doing anything of the sort because there's pain and anger gnawing away at your insides, and this is how you deal with it. All right, guys, make sure you are subscribed to the Hollywoodland podcast
Starting point is 00:36:38 on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcast. Next week, like I mentioned earlier, we have our episode coming on Will Smith, and you are not going to want to miss that. All right, guys, I want to do a couple of your emails. You want to hit me up on email about anything, disgracelandpod at gmail.
Starting point is 00:36:53 This one comes from Paul. Paul's subject is the cars and little Richard. Hey, Jake, just wanted to write and tell you how much I love your show. I stumbled on it at work and now I'm hooked on it like Tyrone Biggams is hooked on crack. I don't know who Tyrone Biggams is. I'm not going to look it up. Tyrone, if you're listening, I apologize. I also wanted to inquire why a Worcester guy being so close to Boston hasn't done an episode about the greatest band that ever came out of Beantown. The Cars. Arrowsmith, me, journey, question mark, maybe. But the Cars has such an awesome history. that I think that it would make for some interesting materials. Secondly, I'm curious as to why the Little Richard episode was so heavily censored slash redacted. Usually let it all fly on your other episodes. So I hold back on that particular one. So thanks for putting on such a great show and keep it the great work. Respectfully, Paul C.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Paul, appreciate the email. Paul, I am not from Worcester. I'm from Clinton. There's a big difference. Okay? Big, big, big, big, big. No disrespect to Worcester, but I got to give it up to my Clinton. folks. All right. I get the cars coming, okay? Get another Boston band coming before that, though.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Sort of, the Pixies, sort of from Boston. We'll do a Cars episode. I don't know the right angle yet. You mentioned Journey. I think you meant to say Boston. I want to do a Boston episode. There's some really bad stuff there. I don't know how to handle it, to be perfectly honest. Now, on your question of Little Richard in the censoring, the bleeping, that story was so depraved. that particular part of the story was so disgusting that when I actually voiced what happened, I just, I couldn't let it just sounded, it sounded too gross coming back at me in the speakers.
Starting point is 00:38:35 So we bleeped it. And yeah, that's really the only answer. No one made me do it. I did it on my own. It was an editorial decision, creative decision, and that's why we did it. So there you go. Appreciate you, Paul.
Starting point is 00:38:46 Thanks for listening. Thanks for writing. All right, guys, you want to help out the show? You can do so by leaving a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, just go to either and look for disgrace land, leave a review, let the folks know what you think. It helps with the discovery of the show. We appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:38:59 If I read your review here, hit me up on the old email machine or at disgrace on pod on either of the social platforms. We'll get some merch out to you. This one comes from Anthony Bourdain. No, this one comes from Tuddy. Tuddy writes in Anthony Bordane, award winning. That's on Apple Podcast. Well, thank you.
Starting point is 00:39:15 Appreciate that, Tuddy. Get a really nice review here from someone named Kid O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-1 regarding when. a writer. I'm not going to read that. But thank you so much. Jonathan Hollis on Spotify writes a great pair of episodes in reference to our Van Halen episodes. I can tell that you guys really love Van Halen. Might I suggest you guys do an episode on another group I love? Death Grips. They've got insane stories and even more insane conspiracy theories surrounding them. I'm very intrigued. What's up with Death Grips? I know next to nothing. Hit us back, Jonathan. Let me know. Thanks for the reviews,
Starting point is 00:39:46 guys. Another way you guys can support the show, as always, is by becoming an exclusive all access disgrace land member. Okay. Your membership is only $5 a month. That'll get you like half a hot dog at a ballpark. And you're going to get substantially more if you become a disgrace land all access member. Okay. You're going to get more of these bonus episodes. We get a little extended version of the after party. You're going to get an exclusive episode per month in your feed on other Apple Podcasts or on Patreon. And you're going to get ad free listening. Okay. Huge. All that is huge. Huge. And only for five bucks. Appreciate you guys who are members.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Like the conversation we get going on in Patreon. Excited to be back at it this week. Excited to be talking to you guys in the chat. Digging the extended Rock and Roll Hall of Fame conversation we're carrying on over there. A lot of folks in the Patreon chat today talking about, I'm looking here, talking about genres of music that they're surprised that they're listening to.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Started with Kimberly, talking about how she's surprised that she's in a metal. Coco's in there. She's a country fan, much to her surprise. Anyways, we're all in there pretty much every day talking, talking to each other, talking about music, talking about movies, talking about the things we talk about in disgrace. You want to become a member? It's five bucks. Disgraceampod.com slash membership.
Starting point is 00:41:06 All right, we're back. Let's climb into the vault here before we get out of here, see what archive episodes we've got waiting for you, stuff that we discussed or referenced or hinted at in this bonus episode. We didn't talk about Pantara, but we did talk about Eddie Van Halen and Eddie Van Halen and Eddie Van Halen shows up in that Pantera episode, which is one of my favorites. You're going to want to check that out, especially to hear how Eddie was an integral part of the Abbott brothers and just the sound of Pantera. We mentioned Hendricks. You mentioned Jimmy Page. Obviously, Hendrickson led Zeppelin episodes in the disgrace and archive. A lot of people ride hard for Clapton. I'm not one of them. We got a Clapton episode. You guys know that. We re-release it every Christmas. And of course,
Starting point is 00:42:00 Slick Rick coming in the rewind slot this week had me thinking about our public enemy. episode, another great Def Jam artist. Also, NWA episode, solo EasyE episode. Released our Snoop episode a couple months back. Just did the BIG episodes. Got a lot of great hip hop in the archive for you guys, if that's your thing. Matt's going to have the episode information in the show notes, make it easy for you guys to comb through those 230 plus episodes. All right, let's recap, shall we? Number one, my other podcast, Hollywoodland is alive and kicking over in the Hollywoodland feed. So make sure you're subscribed and following Hollywood land on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcast and get ready for our upcoming Hollywoodland episode on Will Smith, but only after you're caught up
Starting point is 00:42:42 on our recent episode on Tim Allen. Number two, our disgrace land feed, our part two episode on Van Halen number three coming tomorrow, our rewind episode on Slick Rick and next week our part two episode on print. So make sure you are subscribed to disgrace land. Number four, merch winners, get in touch, you know who you are. Number five. Remember, no one cares about preserving the true spirit of rock and roll more than you do. And well, that's a disgrace.
Starting point is 00:43:03 in honor of this week's subject, Van Halen, the Billboard charts from October 6th, 2020, the day Eddie Van Halen died. Number one, franchise. Travis Scott, featuring Young Thug and MIA. Peak position, one. Weeks on chart, one. Number two, dynamite, BTS.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Last week, one. Peak position, one. Weeks on chart, six. Number three, WOT. Cardi B featuring Megan the Stallion. Last week, two. Peak position, one, weeks on chart, eight. Number four, laugh now, cry later.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Dreyf, featuring Will Dirk. Last week, four, peak position, two, weeks on term. Number five, move. 24-carat gold featuring Ian Diorne last week. And start mixing. This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When like young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever. My first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do?
Starting point is 00:44:27 You'd rather be disappointed in. Do that. David O'Yello. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Dennis Leary, Gaten Moderato from Stranger Things, Tana Monsu, Camilla Marone, Carrie Kenny Silver, and more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Just like great shoes, great books take you places. Through unforgettable love stories and into conversations with characters you'll never forget. I think any good romance, it gives me this feeling of, like, butterflies. I'm Danielle Robeye and this is bookmarked by Reese's Book Club from Hello Sunshine and IHeart Podcast, where we dive into the stories that shape us on the page and off. Each week I'm joined by authors, celebs, book talk stars and more for conversations that will make you laugh, cry, and add way too many books to your TBR pile. Listen to bookmarked by Reese's Book Club on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:45:39 Brought to you by Cotton. of our lives. Movies can make you feel, make you dream. Sometimes they even make you appreciate architecture. Is there anybody who's been hotter in a doorway than Elizabeth Taylor? That's the kind of analysis you'll find every week on Dear Movies I Love You, the new podcast from the Exactly Right Network. Every Tuesday, we break down the films we're crushing on from blockbusters to deep cuts.
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