DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode: Uncovering Grift, Country Punks, and RIP Ozzy

Episode Date: July 24, 2025

This week, Jake looks into some possible malfeasance related to the proceeds of a benefit concert for the victims of the LA fires and shares his thoughts on the passing of the legendary Ozzy Osbourne.... Plus, your voicemails and DMs on the most punk country artists. On Tuesday, we're bringing you our episode on Screaming Trees' Mark Lanegan, and Jake wants to know: Which singer/songwriters are deserving of greater recognition? Share your thoughts at 617-906-6638, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠disgracelandpod@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or on socials @disgracelandpod. For more great Disgraceland episodes, dive into our extensive archive, including such episodes as: Episode 68 - Gram Parsons Episodes 108 and 109 - Sex Pistols Episode 56 - Ozzy Osbourne Episode 89 - Black Sabbath To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 This is exactly right. Double Elvis. When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist, they take matters into their own hands. I vowed, I will be his last target. He is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves. We always say that trust your girlfriends. Listen to the girlfriends.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When like young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever. My first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? Rather be disappointed in. Do that.
Starting point is 00:01:04 David O'Yellowo. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Dennis Leary, Gaten Matarazzo from Stranger Things, Tana Monsu, Camilla Morone, Carrie Kenny Silver, and more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Movies can make you feel, make you dream.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Sometimes they even make you appreciate architecture. Is there anybody who's been hotter in a doorway than Elizabeth Taylor? That's the kind of analysis you'll find every week on Dear Movies I Love You, the new podcast from the Exactly Right Network. Every Tuesday, we break down the films we're crushing on, from blockbusters to deep cuts. Listen to Dear Movies I Love You on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, discos, need a little more disgrace land in your life? Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the After Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode.
Starting point is 00:02:32 A little thing we like to call the after party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of disgrace land to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. Our mission to uncover the truth, to confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode, we are talking about this week's full episode subject, Waylon Jennings. We're rewinding back to our two-part sex pistol saga, previewing this month's exclusive episode on Alice Cooper, our upcoming new episode on Mark Lannigan, and we get into your voicemails, text, DMs,
Starting point is 00:03:02 and as always, a whole lot of rosy. This is the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers, who know that the best history is the history that gets buried. Disgraceland is where I tell the stories they didn't want told, the kind that you'll end up telling someone else.
Starting point is 00:03:17 All right, discos, let's get into it. All right, disgrace, disgrace, land listeners, lots to talk about in this episode, as you could have probably gleaned from the intro there. We've got a whole bunch of content coming your way in the next seven days. We're in that seven day spread right now.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Two new episodes being released from Disgraced Sand this week. Our new episode on Wayland Jennings, which is available everywhere for you to listen to right now and our exclusive episode on Alice Cooper, which is available to our Apple and Patreon All Access members.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Later in this episode, on that note, in the part that's available only to subscribers, I'll be talking more about Wayland Jennings and giving you a story about Wayland that didn't make it into our episode. Remember that whole cocaine bear thing? Remember that movie that came out a couple years ago? Well, as if Waylon Jennings wasn't crazy enough, he had a role in that bad shit crazy cocaine bear story, not the movie, the real story. And I'll give that to you,
Starting point is 00:04:22 like I said, in the exclusive section of this here after party coming up in a bit. What I want to talk about here, though, what I want to shine a light on, you know, it's interesting. We spent a good portion of the last week's after party talking about sort of what we do here. So it kind of recent setting the board a little bit and focusing our goal, our mission, what we're trying to do, what we're trying to, how we're trying to entertain ourselves with stories that are, that are for the most part, kept under wraps, unknown, et cetera. And I started thinking, you know, what story am I going to give them? I thought about giving you all that cocaine bear story here in the beginning, but I'm saving that. And this story, it's music
Starting point is 00:04:58 related. It came to my attention yesterday. I want to talk about this here, okay? I want to shine a light on this story. I want to bring attention to it. It's a little known at the moment as of this recording, but it might be the type of thing that by the time you hear this episode, I'm recording it on Tuesday of this week. You're going to get this episode on Thursday. By the time you hear this, maybe the story will have blown up. I don't know. Maybe the internet will have done its thing, done what it's good at. And that's spreading this story far wide. Hopefully, no, I'm not talking about the cold play cheating scandal, although I could. That story doesn't quit. Fun fact, I went to high school with the wife involved in that horrific story.
Starting point is 00:05:36 But that's not what I want to talk about. I want to talk about this story that my wife brought to my attention yesterday that was so incredible. I was like, it was one of those things I was like, that can't be true. And she showed me the video online. I was a news segment,
Starting point is 00:05:49 I believe from a West Coast local news program. And I still didn't believe it. And I spent time this morning researching it. And it's one of those stories where you know, there's enough credible evidence right now where I believe the story to be true, but it's still so insane to me that I kind of feel like the wool might be being pulled over my eyes. That's not happening. This story is true. I'd be shocked if I got this wrong. But it's that type of incredible story. So I don't want this story to be true.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Okay. That's the other part of this. So you remember the horrific LA wildfires that took place back in January. 30 people died. About 10,000 homes were destroyed. Of course you remember this. A lot of us have friends who lost homes or were otherwise directly affected by that tragedy. And then a couple weeks after that tragedy, they had this concert that they put on to raise money for the victims of the wildfire. Green Day played Billy Elish, Lady Gaga, Red Hot Chili Peppers. Concert was streamed live on Apple Music, on Netflix, elsewhere as well. That event, that concert raised $100 million to help the people who were devastated by that fire. Great cause. Great, great thing to do. And, you know, one of the things,
Starting point is 00:07:02 things that I love about being an American is when tragedy happens, it just seems that Americans step up, they put their money where their mouth is, and they help out. And that was definitely in evidence after this concert or during this concert. Again, they raised $100 million. That's a lot of money. Donations. Well, it turns out none of that money, aside from a couple $500 gift cards, that's all I can find here. For the most part, none of that money. has gone to the victims yet, okay? About 75 million of the 100 million raised. It's been paid out. So the concert folks are like, you know, we did our thing. And they did do their thing. They gave their money. They sent the money out, okay? But not to the victims. That money went to nonprofits
Starting point is 00:07:50 who are supposed to distribute that money to the victims. Now, here's the sketchy part. some of these nonprofits, they seem to have nothing to do with aiding victims of natural disaster. And the more you dig in to this story, the more you dig into the process that these nonprofits have to go through to receive this money, the more you're going to realize that the barrier of entry to be considered as one of the recipients for this bread, it's very low. Some of the reporting I saw said that there was a simple six-question questionnaire that these nonprofits had to, to answer to qualify for these millions of dollars in some cases. Now, this information is publicly available. You can go find this yourself with very, very little effort, okay? I don't mean just find somebody talking about it on, on X or Instagram or whatever. You can actually go to the
Starting point is 00:08:46 organization responsible for this and you can find out everything I just told you. It's right there. But, you know, you're also probably, before you even get there, you're going to come upon two independent journalists, one of whom is positioned herself as a sort of unintentionalienable. intentional victim advocate here. Her name is Sue Pasco. And basically she was just asked by some of these victims or notified and it was like, hey, I can't, this concert happened. We can't get this money. How do we get this money? What's going on? So she looked into it. And this is all kind of breaking in the last 24 hours. It's making the rounds on various news outlets, what Sue Pascoe here has come up with. And Sue, this woman, Sue Pasco, she doesn't seem partisan. She doesn't seem political in the slightest.
Starting point is 00:09:23 She seems to be an honest broker. And again, this information, that I'm relaying to you that she is related to everybody is out there. It's publicly available. Okay. The story is this. They raised $100 million. Seventy-five million of it went to nonprofits. As far as we can tell right now, none of that money has gone to the victims. We haven't found any testimony, a public testimony from any of these victims saying that they actually applied for this money and received it. Not as of yet. That might change. By the time you hear this, that might change. But as of yet, it hasn't. And this news has been out there now again for more than 24 hours. It's making the rounds. Lots of people have seen an interview with Sue Pasco making
Starting point is 00:10:02 these claims. So you would think if this money had gotten to where it was supposed to go, that that news would be out there. However, it's not. Okay? Now the point, we need this story to get out there. This is one of those stories that cannot be suppressed. This is one of those stories that deserves the coverage. It's a very simple way to do this. We need to get the artists from the concert to get involved in demand transparency so that the story gets out there. And so, so that the victims can get their hands on this bread. They can get the relief that they need. The fires were seven months ago.
Starting point is 00:10:32 There may be a perfectly logical explanation why this money has not been dispersed, but it does not change the fact that the fires were seven months ago. The concert was nearly seven months ago. These people needed relief more than, I'm guessing, than they do now, I'm sure, but they still need the relief,
Starting point is 00:10:49 and they're still looking to get it, clearly. And still, according to reports, these victims are coming up with Bubbkins. So where is the money? Where's the money, Lubowski? Is this story a scandal? I don't know. There may be a perfectly logical explanation.
Starting point is 00:11:01 It seems super dubious. Maybe the nonprofits will claim that it takes time to process this money. But if so, that's unacceptable. And it needs to be solved. And again, the simple truth is that people were hurt by this tragedy. The people need the money that their fellow Americans donated to them generously. That money should not be sitting idle in the accounts of nonprofits or worse, God forbid, paying the salaries of nonprofit executives.
Starting point is 00:11:27 And here's the main point. Again, the musicians here, the rock stars, Flea, Billy Ilish, Lady Gaga, Billy Joe Armstrong, they need to speak up and demand transparency and force this story, if true. And again, it appears to be that it is true. They need to force this story into the news more fully so that the people can get what they need.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Okay? I want to give the organizers of the concert the benefit of the doubt, and I am, and I even want to give the nonprofits the benefit of the doubt. it's the benefit of the doubt. But it doesn't change the fact that the money has not gotten to where it needs to be, and that needs to change. Okay, so this story needs to get out there.
Starting point is 00:12:02 And I hope this isn't one big disgrace. I hope that these rock stars can push this issue. You know, maybe if you're tooling around on X, you can tag a couple of them or on Instagram or wherever, and you can tell them to, you know, where's the money, Lubowski? Get out there and say something, Billy Joe. Get out there and say something, Lady Gaga. You guys aren't afraid of the microphone. phone. All right, let's get the story out there. Okay. Speaking of stories, let's talk about what
Starting point is 00:12:27 other stories we have going on this week. In the exclusive feed this week, we have an episode on Alice Cooper. Matt, let's go ahead and play a clip here so that the disgrace and listeners who are not all access members can hear a little bit about Alice and they can hear what they're missing. Okay, give it home. The sunset strip was living up to its name. It was bathed in pink and orange light as the evening sun sank into the Hollywood Hills. The strip looked beautiful for just a moment. Then it plunged into darkness. However, the darkness was far from still and far from silent because the darkness had a voice, a voice that called out to the creatures of the night, the ones who slept in the daytime, staying hidden from the sun. The voice of the night called out to them. It pulled them out of their hiding spots. It
Starting point is 00:13:27 demanded they take to the streets to satiate their unquenchable thirst, their thirst for blood. Because at night, the sunset strip was crawling with vampires, if he knew where to look. Not long after the sun finally disappeared behind the hills, the vampires stirred. They slunk down the boulevards, staying hidden in the shadows, and they crept through the alleyways, stalking their prey. These vampires would go to the ends of the earth to satisfy their creations. and further to get their fix that would travel all the way over the rainbow. All right, guys, that's the Alice Cooper episode being released this week that is part of our exclusive offering to disgrace land all access members.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Five bucks a month gets you that extra episode per month like Alice here. It gets you ad-free listening as well, Disgraceland and Hollywoodland, completely ad-free, no ads. And it gets you a little more bonus after-party as well. And you're going to hear me later in the bonus section of this. after party talking about Wayland Jennings and the Cocaine Bear. All right. Also this week, in addition to that new Wayland Jennings episode, and again, that
Starting point is 00:14:35 Wayland episode is not exclusive. It's going to be available everywhere. It's available everywhere right now, I should say. But in addition to that, we've got our rewind episodes on the Sex Pistols, Parts Parts 1 and 2 coming your way. If you want a real take on one of the greatest bands of all time, the real mythology, not the sanitized bunk that Hulu, excuse me, the chasm. I haven't forgot about chasm.
Starting point is 00:14:56 that chasm served up a couple years ago, then check out these episodes on the sex pistol. Some of Zeth Lundy's best writing, if I do say so. Casm can't keep us down, man, just can't. All right. So after those sex pistols episodes, we've got our Mark Landing and episode coming your way next Tuesday. Great story in that episode on Mark
Starting point is 00:15:15 and Josh Holmey from Queens of the Stone Age. Getting caught up in all kinds of Detroit shakedowns. Listen, when you're chilling out with your headphones on, you get the Mark Lanigan episode playing. You're going to be tempted to think about Matt Dillon, but don't, okay? When you hear the Mark Lannigan episode, you'll know what I'm talking about. Try not to think about Matt Dillon. Instead, be thinking about all the underrated singer-songwriters who are out there.
Starting point is 00:15:41 We just discussed bands who never lived up to their expectations with the replacements. But Mark Lannigan, such an underrated singer-songwriter, got me thinking, what other singer-songwriters are wildly underrated? That's going to be our question of the week next week, 6-17-9-7-9-7. 9.0666.6.6.6.38 to let me know. Call me, send me a text, and you may hear yourself, uh, your voice on the next episode of after party. You might, might hear me read your text as well. Again, you get a call or you get a text to make that happen. 617-906-66-6638. Answered the question of the week. Who are some of the most wildly underrated singer-songwriters?
Starting point is 00:16:16 All right. I will have more recommendations next week, but I want to just quickly say that I finished Chuck Hogan's gangland, and I already missed Nikki Pins. I want to also just let you know that I can't stop listening to this song by the Eric Lignini Legnini, Eric Legnini trio called Don't Let Me Be Lonely Tonight. And I invite you to find that song and listen to it too and just be sad with me, you know, sad and a sophisticated kind of way. So damn you, Eric Lignini, whoever the hell you are, I can't stop listening to the song. You knocked it out of the park.
Starting point is 00:16:53 It's tremendous. If you guys want more recommendations for me, get into the Patreon chat. Hit me up there. I'll give you a couple more. Coming up next, the music and musicians you want to talk about with your voicemails, text,
Starting point is 00:17:05 DMs, and more. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either.
Starting point is 00:17:34 We always say that trust your girlfriends, I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of The Girlfriends, Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care.
Starting point is 00:17:54 So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the Girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia
Starting point is 00:18:24 Clark. When, like, young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever, my first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? Rather be disappointed in. Do that. Dennis Leary. I wake up, and I'm hitting him in the head with a water bomb. And Bruce Jenner is on the aisle in a karate stance, like he's about to attack me, like,
Starting point is 00:18:46 making karate noises. And his entire the Kardashians family over there, everybody's going, and the air marshal is trying to grab my arms and screaming. I immediately know that I've been asleepwalking. David O'Yello. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Guy Branham.
Starting point is 00:19:11 So anyway, Nicole can't. him in, broke up with Keith Thurban. Being half of a country couple was always a hat she was going to wear, not like a life she was going to lead. Oh, interesting. I like that. Did you practice that on your way over? Gaten Matarazzo from Stranger Things.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Tena Monsu. Camilla Morone at Carrie Kenny Silver. And more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Remember when you'd walk into your local video rental place and there were always those two employees behind the counter arguing about movies? Well, that's us. I'm Millie to Cherico. And I'm Casey O'Brien. And now we're arguing about movies on our podcast, Dear Movies I Love You, from the Exactly Right Network. Can I say something about the Criterion Clause? Go ahead, dude.
Starting point is 00:20:02 They're letting too many people in there. Okay, that's another film grape I got two. Sadly, that rental place doesn't exist anymore. It's probably a store that sells running shoes. Or an ice cream shop with an extra pee and an E at the end. So consider us your slacker movie clerks in podcast form. I would like to establish a timeline of the moment you figured out who Channing Tatum was. Every Tuesday, we dig into the movies we can't stop obsessing over, from hidden gems to big screen favorites. New episodes drop every week on the exactly right network.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Listen to Dear Movies I Love You on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. All right, we're back. Apple podcast listeners. Let's make sure you got auto downloads turned on so you don't miss any disgrace episodes. Right now, you know where I'm at. I'm in the phone booth. It's the one across the hall. I'm hanging on the telephone 617-90666-6-36-3-8 voicemail and text for you guys to get in touch
Starting point is 00:21:06 with me, make your voice be heard here on disgrace land. Get me the stories you want to hear, the stories you want to tell, the stories you want to talk about, just like this listener in the 612. Hey, Jake, what's going on? This is Nathan from Minneapolis. I thoroughly enjoyed the Replacements episode. They're like rock gods here in Minneapolis, just awesome. Also, the Van Allen episodes are amazing. That is my favorite band of all time. But your question was, who is the most punk country artist? I'm going to have to go with Whalen Jennings. I mean, guy was a badass. He played a Buddy Holly.
Starting point is 00:21:48 I mean, the whole coin flip where he wasn't on the plane where it crashed, that's a crazy story right there. I got a chance to see Whaling Jennings, Lollapalooza, 1996, Des Moines, Iowa. It was amazing. They played with Metallica, Rancid, Psychotica, Soundgarden. I mean, that was an amazing lineup. Absolutely crazy. But thanks. Podcast is awesome.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Rockerola. Thanks, man. Bye. Rockerola, Nathan, thanks for calling in. First of all, thanks for your very kind comments about the replacements of Van Halen episodes.
Starting point is 00:22:31 But man, Waylon Jennings at Lollapalooza in 96. I vaguely remember that? I don't know. I don't think my memory ever would have gotten there if you didn't bring it up. That must have been incredible. I went to that Lollapalooza, but I went in Rhode Island in 96, and I don't remember Wayland Jennings, but they had different artists playing at different parts of the country.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Thanks for the call. Appreciate you. Nathan, guys, is responding to the question of the week from last week, which artist, which country artist is the most punk rock? And of course, that comes from our Wayland Jennings episode that is live right now for you to listen to. Nathan clearly did. Let's check out the 270s, see what their answer is to the same question. Hey, Jake, 270, Todd. I love all your questions, but I especially love this one, the one about which country star is the most punk rock.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Because after all, what's more punk rock than Waylon Jennings, George Jones, or Johnny Cash, or any of these outlaw guys. More gangster, more hardcore than any hip-hop artist or hair metal guy or whoever you want to name. But anyway, in a close one, I'll probably go with Johnny Cash. Pretty punk rock guy for his time especially. And I mean close. You can go with Waylon. It's all interchangeable. One of my favorite rock stars, Mike Ness, social distortion.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Good podcast subject. He was kind of a combo of Johnny Cash and Joe Strummer. Also, honorable mention, maybe it's cheating a little. grand parsons jump suits with marijuana leaves his best friend was keith richards he died in some crazy dramatic way not that that's good and then the whole joshua whatever the burning of the body out in the desert thing that pretty punk rock anyway thank you so much for all your content i look forward to it all the time see you 270 todd appreciate you lots to get into there first of all i'll try to go backwards grand parsons the story of grand parsons we um we get into that thoroughly in disgrace land and in my book um
Starting point is 00:24:44 just telling my son my 11 year old about grand parsons the other day i left out some some choice details ones that you had here you know the whole coffman road mangler joshua tree burning of the body thing uh social distortion mike ness love mike ness loved that solo record he put out back in i believe the 90s late 90s johnny cash joe stromber combo that's a good way of of describe I'd like to do a Mike Ness episode at some point. I feel like there's a lot from that 80s L.A. hardcore scene that I have not dove, dove into. I have not submerged myself into as of yet. And there's a lot of stories out there.
Starting point is 00:25:19 So thanks for prompting me. I love that about this. That's what I love about this community. You guys, I wouldn't have thought of Mike Ness in an L.A. Punk hardcore 80s episode today at all if it were not for your call here, 270 Todd. Appreciate you. guys be like 270 tod hit me up 617 906 666 6638 voicemails text can answer the question of the week you can you can even just you don't tell me about something you want to hear you can tell me about something
Starting point is 00:25:46 you've already heard and that you like me to tell so there's all kinds of different ways into these conversations 412 called in brought up david allen co at some point 412 i will do a david allen co episode i'm not ready to do that yet 605 now 605 i have one let's kind of remember one, two, three messages from Jennifer voicemails from Jennifer in the 605. In the first two, she makes a strong case for a blind melon episode. And Jennifer, I will have you know, Matt, we just recorded a blind melon episode. And I believe Matt, it's coming up. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Starting point is 00:26:26 That is an exclusive episode, correct? Yeah, Jake, that is an exclusive All Access episode. It's actually last month's All-Axcess episode. It's available right now in the All-Excess feed. We've got an episode on Blind Melon and Shannon Hoon. All right. Thank you, my friend. Jennifer, as Matt says, this is an exclusive episode.
Starting point is 00:26:48 You're going to be an exclusive All-Axswemone episode. Sorry. But, you know, good news is it's really simple to become an All-Axas member. It's five bucks a month. And you get more than that Blind Melon episode. You get a new episode like the Alice Cooper one this month. You get a new one every month. And you get ad-free listening of Disgraceland.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Hollywoodland. So, you know, go sign up. Go to disgraceandpod.com slash membership. Don't be afraid, Jennifer. Have no fear. You might not hear that All-Axcess member of Blind Melon, but you're going to hear your voice.
Starting point is 00:27:16 This is Jennifer against the Gensit 330. I wanted also mention collective fault. There are so many I can mention to you. I'm a radio DJ. I've been a live radio DJ since about 2009, somewhere in there. Anyways, so there as well.
Starting point is 00:27:32 I wanted to answer the question, though, of this week, which was who is the most punk in the country genre, who was the most, and that would have to be Dwight Yocum. Dwight Yocum was found in a punk band, in the punk scene when they pulled them out and said, hey, come sing country for it. So, you know, going to make a mula, you're going to do it. Take care of rock a roll. Jennifer, collective soul. I don't know about collective soul. I don't know anything about collective soul. so I'm not sure there's an episode in the works there.
Starting point is 00:28:03 But if you got some dirt, you got some stories, you got something dramatic, you got something that is not part of the popular sort of zeitgeist, you know, rock history, something I can dig my teeth into with a collective soul, something crimey by all means, get in touch. You mentioned County Crows in one of your earlier voicemails that I didn't play.
Starting point is 00:28:22 And yeah, maybe, I'm sure there's some stuff there. I saw this great interview with Adam Duritz on Instagram the other day. I don't know who he was being interviewed by, but he was talking about his time as a bartender at the Viper Room. And I thought, that's good. And he was talking about Gibby from Butthole Surfers, teaching him out to make ribs.
Starting point is 00:28:46 I was like, oh, that's some good stuff. So yeah, maybe a Count and Kuro's episode. Then you get the whole friend's connection. I like all that stuff. So that could be cool. Thank you, Jennifer. Jennifer, real quick on Dwight Yocum. Dwight Yocom would be a great episode as well.
Starting point is 00:28:58 Guitarist, Cadillacs, Hillbillard Music. Love me some Dwight. Love me some tight, some tight faded blue jeans, okay? Those long legs, those cowboy boots. You know what I'm talking about, Jennifer. Don't act like you don't. All right, guys, be like Jennifer and get in touch. 617-906-66-6638.
Starting point is 00:29:16 You know why? Because you guys, you know that music history does not have to be boring. You know that you've got a line on these crazy-ass stories, just like I do. You dig and you call and you dig and you dig and you text and you dig and you DM. and then we get into it, and then we have this great, wonderful library of incredible storytelling
Starting point is 00:29:34 from music history. That's all in part because of you guys and I truly appreciate it. On this whole dig baby, dig baby dig thing, so dig baby dig baby digs. Why's that hard for me
Starting point is 00:29:44 to say dig baby dig thing that we talked about for the first time last week? I got an email from a gentleman by the name of Scott who, hey, I loved your off-the-cuff comment
Starting point is 00:29:56 about a dig baby dig t-shirt. I put the normal logo on front pocket size and I put this on the back and Scott here from the 623 sent in a t-shirt design that he made and I dig it Scott looks like you might have used a little artificial intelligence here because that logo is not the actual logo Scott so I can't use that but I am inspired by your inspiration my friend and we have the we have the merch monkeys over here at double all this headquarters digging in right now as we speak whipping up some dig baby dig designs i'll have that for you guys soon to take a look at probably have some designs for you guys to choose from i'll put them up on patreon uh we can get into it
Starting point is 00:30:38 decide which ones we'd like and then i'll get some i don't know maybe shirts maybe hats we'll see i don't know we'll see what the merch monkeys come back with but scott appreciate the email this grace man pot at gmail dot com you guys want to email me about anything like scott be like scott email me you can also text me 617 906 666 38 386 text in root boy slim in the sex change band. Root Boy's life is totally insane. And the fact that he got a major record deal from WB, I'm assuming that's Warner Brothers, and had some high caliber musicians on his albums, both with the SCB and solo, is ridiculous because the songs are ridiculous, but also somehow infectious as hell. Stephen Daytona. Stephen Daytona, you sound like a character in an Elmore
Starting point is 00:31:20 Leonard book. And that's cool. I've never heard of Root Boy Slim in the sex change band. Are you fucking with me, Stephen Daytona? I just wanted to say Stephen Daytona again. Hold on. Am I seeing this right? Hold on. Oh, man. I am. I'm just seeing this in the middle of reading Stephen Daytona's email there. I got a notification here. Ozzie Osbourne has died. This is Tuesday. I mentioned that earlier that I'm recording. This is Tuesday, July 22nd. damn man 76 years old and of course just weeks after the black Sabbath
Starting point is 00:32:04 farewell show Ozzy Osbourne for me one of a kind for sure the first heavy metal I ever heard I remember hearing Iron Man probably as a five year old and one of my buddies' moms had that record mom she had that record
Starting point is 00:32:19 and of course we all love the sort of robotic voice in the beginning as a young kid and I heard that song the other day actually when I was driving with my son and it was in the breakdown part in the middle of the song and that rhythm section, the Black Sabbath rhythm section is just crushing it. That song has become, I don't want to say a novelty, but it became this thing that gets played at hockey games, but the musicianship on it is incredible.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Ozzy Osbourne, lots to say about Ozzy Osbourne. People have said a ton. They've filled books about Ozzy. They've made documentaries about Ozzy. We've made an episode on Ozzy plus a Black Sabbath episode as well. And one of the things that I feel like does not get mentioned enough when it comes to Ozzy Osbourne is the fact that he was an incredible singer, just an incredible singer and an incredible melodicist. Is that the right word, Matt?
Starting point is 00:33:18 Melodicist? You know what I mean? Just those melodies, unbelievable. one of the things that I always think about, and I started thinking about this as an adolescent and when I first heard Black Sabbath, and by the time I was an adolescent teenager, I kind of knew a little bit about music,
Starting point is 00:33:37 and I had this thought then. Somebody probably came from somebody else, and I just don't remember who it was. But, you know, Ozzie's main influence was the Beatles. Black Sabbath came out in the late 60s, early 70s. How do you get from the Beatles? to Black Sabbath, Black Sabbath. How do they do that?
Starting point is 00:33:58 And I know Tony Naomi, Bill Ward, Gieser Butler, they obviously had so much to do with the creative spark of that band. But Ozzy did as well. And he gets, he's been characterized as this madman. And he's known for his wild antics and the whole thing with the bat and the biting off the head of the, all that stuff. But it doesn't erase the fact that what he created at the time was almost completely novel.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Nobody had done that before. He was part of that. And his voice is completely unique. It's singular in the history of rock and roll, in the history of music. He'll be remembered forever and for good reason. Just a tremendous, tremendous musician, tremendous life.
Starting point is 00:34:44 And he's going to be missed by so many. And I love that they got these concerts off in the last couple weeks before he passed away. My heart goes out to his kids, to his wife, to the rest of his family, to all the bandmates who played with him, both throughout his solo career, Black Sabbath, Ozzy Osbourne, rest in peace. You know, we're supposed to release those Sex Pistols episodes this weekend, Matt. I'm thinking maybe we release the Ozzy Osbourne in the Black Sabbath episodes, maybe in reverse order of Black Sabbath, excuse me, and then Ozzy.
Starting point is 00:35:23 and just kind of do our own little tribute here to the Prince of Darkness, save the sex pistols for another time. I don't know, like I said, I'm hearing this in real time as I'm recording. And I got a notification. I said I got a notification. What actually happened was I got a text from one of you guys from the 724. RIP to Ozzy Thursday's After Party is going to hit different when you mention it. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:35:52 definitely feel strange to get this information in the midst of a recording. But as every great entertainer will tell you, Ozzy Osbourne included. The show must go on. It's rule number one. So with that, we're going to take a quick break
Starting point is 00:36:08 and we'll be back in a flash. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, Never mess with her friends either. We always say that, trust your girlfriends.
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Starting point is 00:36:57 I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark.
Starting point is 00:37:23 When, like, young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever, my first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? You'd rather be disappointed in. Do that. Dennis Leary. I wake up and I'm hitting him in the head with a water bomb.
Starting point is 00:37:41 And Bruce Jenner is on the aisle in a karate stance like he's about to attack me. Like making karate noises. And his entire the Kardashian family over there, everybody's going, and the air marshal is trying to grab my arms and screaming. I immediately know that I've been asleepwalking. David O'Yellowo. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts.
Starting point is 00:38:09 Guy Branham. So anyway, Nicole Kimman broke up with Keith Thurban. Being half of a country couple was always a hat she was going to wear, not like a life she was going to lead. Oh, interesting. I like that. Did you practice that on your way over? Gaten Matarazzo from Stranger Things.
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Starting point is 00:39:34 Listen to Wicked Words on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, we are back, ladies and gentlemen, here in the after-party Ozzy Osbourne has passed away. We just got this news, and the skies have opened up outside the studio. It's pouring rain right now. You might be able to hear some of that rain,
Starting point is 00:40:02 Black Sabbath, Black Sabbath style, in the opening seconds, a little thunder, a little rain, the opening seconds of Ozzy Osbourne's great debut. I think it's apropos. I could wait until the rain dies down, but I'm not going to. I'm just going to record here in honor of Ozzy Osbourne. But like I said, at the end of that last block, the show must go on. And we get to do a little bit of business here. We've got to get into our 60 second sports rant in under 30 seconds where you guys indulge me. You give me just a little teensy bit of space to vent on what's happening in sports this week. Because yeah, I'm a music guy and I'm a books guy and I'm a movies guy, sure, but I'm also a sports guy. And this week's 60 second sports rand. and under 30 seconds is once again brought to you by five hour energy. So big thanks to them.
Starting point is 00:40:50 I was up late last night on purpose, okay, golf this past weekend. Once again, I was not good, but five hour energy's new transfusion flavor. It helped, all right? And I was at least better on the putting green than the Red Sox were in the 10th inning last night. Matt, are we rolling here? Let's get that buzzer be going, okay? Let's do this because I'm definitely rolling here. First of all, okay, Red Sox should have won that game in the ninth inning against the Phillies on Monday night.
Starting point is 00:41:13 But then they end up in extras in the 10th. that, okay? But to lose in extra innings on catcher interference is pathetic. The Red Sox should be jamming with that five-hour energy transfusion flavor, you know? You know what I'm saying? Nine other baseball players and five-hour energy's transfusion flavor is inspired by golfs on official cocktail with its hints of grape and lime and ginger. But Nervez, come on, man. There's no alcohol in transfusion. Head to your local retailer or www.5hourenergy.com to order yours today. Give yourself some extra energy out on the golf course or even in the 10th inning if you're a sleeping Red Sox catcher.
Starting point is 00:41:47 All right, Matt, how'd I do? Did I maintain my streak? Jake, the training, the five-hour energy, it's paying off. 39 seconds. So we're getting close to that goal. A big improvement from last week. Let's keep it up. All right.
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Starting point is 00:42:24 flavor available in stores or online at www.5hourenergy.com. All right, before I tell you guys, this Wayland Jennings cocaine bear story, I got to remind you that over in the Hollywoodland feed, there's a new episode on Jane Mansfield, and there's a new rap party bonus episode with me and Zeth talking Anton LeVay, Corey Haim, Bonnie Prince Billy, and a whole bunch more. going to want to miss that. All right. Now, I mentioned the cocaine bear wayland genic story. That's only coming to your ears if you're Ozzy Osbourne and can listen in from the Astroplane or if you're a disgrace land, all access member. And you will therefore be granted access into the
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Starting point is 00:43:39 All right, welcome back to the after party. We're about to get out of here. I want to get into the vault section here, mentioned the, you know, that we got all screwed up here today in today's episode because, you know, originally I started talking about the rewind episodes were going to be the Sex Pistols episodes. And then in the course of recording this episode,
Starting point is 00:43:56 we got news that Ozzy Osbourne had passed away. So sex pistols will not be in the rewind slots this week. We made a programming decision in real time while recording this, and we will have the Black Sabbath and Ozzy Osbourne episodes, two episodes for you in the rewind slots at the end of this week, all right? So you can dive into that. And then your sex pistols episodes, those will remain in the archive for, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:44:21 I don't know for how much longer, but Matt will have the show information on those pistols episodes for you. You want to go check those out. And again, Zeth Lundy wrote his ass off on those. also mentioned Johnny Cash, and we of course have a Johnny Cash episode. So you can listen to that. Matt will have that info for you as well in the show notes. So I got to get out of here. I'm taking off. I'm doing a little tiny vacation tomorrow. And it's 552 here, Eastern Time on a Tuesday. It's, it's a, I get some Black Sabbath rain happening outside my window right now. I have so much to record tonight.
Starting point is 00:44:53 I haven't packed anything. I got to get out. All right. Let's recap. Number one, this week's full episode. Waylon Jennings, that is live for you right now. Coming at you next for you all access members, our Alice Cooper episode. That'll pair well with our rewind episodes at the end of the week in the wide feed on Ozzy Osbourne and Black Sabbath. Next week on Tuesday, our Mark Landigan episode,
Starting point is 00:45:14 you're going to want to get in on that action. Number five over in the Hollywood land feed, Jane Mansfield and Zeth and I in the rap party talking Bonnie Prince Billy's acting career. Who knew? Damn. Number six, six-17-9066-638, voicemail and text, DM me at Disgracelandpot on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and X disgracelandpot at gmail.com to email me. Listen, your voice helps uncover what gets buried, okay? Your takes,
Starting point is 00:45:40 they propel me into the dark corners of music history. So keep them coming. Dig, baby, dig, get in touch and let me know what you know. All right. Number seven, don't forget, this isn't just content discos. This is a community, a community of the obsessed. No one cares about music books, records and the crime and grime that ties them all together like you do. And well, that's a disgrace. I gotta take off, but before I do, on August 24th, 1977, Feral Agents rated Wayland Jennings Studio, and this was what America was listening to that day according to the Billboard charts. Number one, best of my love, the emotions.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Last week, three, weeks on the chart, 11. Number two, I just want to be your everything. Andy Gibb, last week, one, peak position, one, weeks on chart, 18. Number three, your love has lifted me higher and higher. Rita Coolidge, last week four, peak position, three, weeks on chart, 16. Number four, I'm in you. Peter Frampton, last week, two, peak position two, weeks on chart, 13. Number five, easy.
Starting point is 00:46:49 Commodores, last week, seven. Peak position, five, weeks on church, 12. Number six. Talking and start mixing. Cut it! Thank you from the bottom of my heart. I love you. We love you.
Starting point is 00:47:14 When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist, they take matters into their own hands. I vowed. I will be his last target. He is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves. We always say that trust your girlfriends. Listen to the girlfriends.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Trust me, babe. on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season, on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When, like, young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever. And my first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? Rather be disappointed in. Do that.
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